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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Hey, everybody, my

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name is Chris and I'm Jeff,
and we're the Bible Guys. Yes we

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are, and we are here today
to talk about the Bible. Rumor has

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its rumor has it? Yep?
And so but before we do, we

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have a segment, don't we,
Jeff, We do, and it is

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everybody's favorite segment, the one that
everybody's been waiting for with baited breath all

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week long. They've been waiting,
Oh, Jeff, quit talking, just

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get to the most important segment of
the week. And so here we are,

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folks. Do do what made Chris
mad this week? Yeah? And

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we haven't done this in a few
weeks. Yeah, we did last week.

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Yeah. Yeah, it seems so
long for you. It seems so

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long for you. Everything just makes
you so mad. Clear you want to

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talk about it every day. You
prefer that this was your daily. We

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recorded two weeks of episodes last week
and two weeks this week. That's recorded

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four weeks. That's right, twenty
twenty episodes for us. It's been a

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week for them, it's been like
four weeks, but you would prefer that

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this would be every day. No, oh, you you just walk around

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mad about everything. So that's not
true at all. You're gonna that's that's

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in my experience, in my personal
experience. You are going to don't get

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people to think that. Don't minimize
my experience. Everybody is not telling the

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truth. Okay, don't make me
mad. You wouldn't want to see me

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when I'm angry, That's right,
that's right, David Banner. All right,

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So here is actually my I think
that made me mad this week is

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I was with a buddy of mine
and he said, hey, let's go

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see a movie. And we looked
and we realized that there are no good

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movies out and and but no,
it's bigger than this. But then we

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get into a deeper discussion about how
movies in theaters are. The quality of

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movies being released in theaters has gone
down considerably. I'm not sure if you

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like would agree with that, but
like if I haven't seen a movie in

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the theater in six months, maybe
a year, okay, see, See,

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the point is is that, like
the quality has gone down so much.

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Yeah, whatever it used to be, it used to be where like

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if you'd look at the lineup in
the theater and you'd say, you know

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that just rewind like five years ago
and you'd say, man, there's like

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three movies out here that I really
want to see, right, And now

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you're you're like, Okay, this
is the fifth week in a row where

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I'm looking and I'm just seeing garbage. I mean, it's just it's garbage

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that nobody's even ever heard of.
Like I've never even seen a preview for

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this movie, and it looks terrible
and it is, and you know it's

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terrible. If Rotten Tomato says it's
good. Right, So you know,

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all the critics are always wrong.
So anyway, the point is is that

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except me, except me, you're
the critic that is right in my own

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mind. No, So here's what
I started doing. So it turned into

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this larger conversation that like, like
theater experiences in general have really declined.

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Well, you know, COVID people
were, you know, saying a lot

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of things about theaters, and they
were saying, oh, yeah, after

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COVID, the theater is going to
be obsolete, and we certainly know that

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that is the traction of theaters has
gone down considerably, right, And so

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you're almost waiting for the day where
they're going to shut down all theaters everywhere

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and it's just going to be the
living room experience. Right. But then

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in my mind and in my heart, here's what I resolved. I said

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to myself. I said, well, I don't think they're going to go

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away, because you know, as
long as the movie is released in the

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theater first and then it makes it
to your TV. As long as that

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system stays in place, then basically, you know, I think that the

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dinner in a movie is the most
common date still in the world today.

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And I think that people like the
theater experience and the pop pun experience.

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So I don't think it's going to
go away. I just think it's going

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to decline, you know. But
people are lazy, they stay home and

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all this stuff. Right, And
now that I'm looking at movies and all

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of a sudden, I'm connecting dots. Here's what I believe. I started

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to connect the dots and think all
the good movies are now being made for

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TV. That's right. So now
it's like it's like making four Prime.

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They're made four netflis. Yeah,
they're actually and there I think, actually,

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we've we've just now reached the tipping
point to where the ones that are

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made for streaming services are better than
the ones in the theaters a lot of

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times. And I think that that
actually has only people home theater systems and

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all that kind of stuff. Yeah, and so I guess what I'm saying

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is is like I just now started
to connect the big picture dots and I'm

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saying, oh, my goodness,
we've reached the tipping point. And I

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think it's only happened in the last
like year to year and a half to

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where I think I think, actually
that could be the downfall of most theaters

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as well. I think coming out
of COVID, people got in the habit

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of they invested in their home theaters
and then they bought all the streaming you

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know, things rocked, everything didn't, and you know, everything for the

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got out of the habit. Yeah, for most of it. For the

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worst. I think the last movie
that I went to in theater was Indiana

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Jones. Oh yeah, they did
they know one? That was the last

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week. That was last year with
the girl. Yeah that was last year,

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right, right. Anyway, The
point is is that it may be

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mad, it may be mad for
the theater experience. It may be mad

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for future generations that they're probably not
going to grow up and experience the great

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theater experience. Yeah, all that
stuff. The world is changing, and

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Chris is mad about it. Next
week, tune in as he complains about

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kids on his lawn the old man. No like, get off my lawn,

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darn kids. Okay, well,
good well, I'm mad for the

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theater experience. Yeah, I like
change. Well, apparently you just need

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to buy a really good popcorn machine. I don't think I have that yet.

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I would thank you. I have
everything. You just don't want to

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have to make it yourself. You'd
rather pays. I've got the surround sound,

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I've got the big screen, I've
got all that. I just I

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just like the movie theater experience.
I just do. Okay, Well,

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there you go. Have you have
it, folks. I know that was

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important to you. Yes, so
we have just dealt with it. You're

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welcome, Yes, thank you,
Thank everybody. Yes, you're grieving now

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today it wasn't so much mad.
It's grief grieving on behalf of the rest

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of us that we're losing. Well, how about how about this? How

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about this I'm mad at the broad
strokes of Hollywood of actually making the choice

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to cut off the theaters. How
about that? Would that would make me

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mad? Yeah? Right, So
I'm sad for the theater experience, but

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I'm actually mad at the decision makers
who don't care about the theater experience.

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Oh, there you go, there
it is those are the anger comes in.

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Okay, and anymore so many of
the movies just feel preachy and it

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feels way it don't even start instead
it instead of getting up and leaving a

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movie that you just spent thirty bucks
on or forty bucks on, yeah,

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it's easier just to go find a
different movie on Netflix. So I think

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there's a lot of that every Disney
movie ever made. Okay, so let's

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move on. That's what you can
yell about next week. In the last

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eight in the last five years,
Oh, the Disney movies are terrible that

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way. Okay. So, and
it's funny that preachers hate preachy stuff.

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So that's that's funny to me too. But yeah, okay, So today

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we're continuing on as we are in
the last hours before the crucifixion. Just

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maybe these are the last minutes before
the crucifixion. Now as of today,

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Matthew, Chapter twenty seven is where
we're going to start, and verse twenty

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seven, and then it'll also go
over to Mark fifteen. It's these two

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places. And this really is the
Roman soldiers part. Yeah, this is

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the soldiers. And some of the
governor's soldiers took Jesus into their headquarters and

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called out the entire regiment. And
they stripped him and put a scarlet robe

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on him, and they wove thorn
branches into a crown and put it on

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his head, and they placed a
red stick in his right hand as a

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scepter. Then they knelt before him
and mockery and taunted, Hail, King

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of the Jews. And they spit
on him and grabbed the stick and struck

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him on the head with it.
When they were finally tired of mocking him,

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they took off the robe and put
his own clothes on him again.

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Then they led him away to be
crucified. And in Mark chapter fifteen,

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verse sixteen, the soldiers took Jesus
into the courtyard of the governor's headquarters called

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the Preetorium, and called out the
entire regiment. They dressed him in a

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purple robe, and they wove thorn
branches into a crown and put it on

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his head. And then they saluted
him and taunted Hail King of the Jews.

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And they struck him on the head
with a red stick and spit on

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him, and dropped to their knees
and mock worship. And when they were

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finally tired of mocking him, they
took off the purple robe and put his

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own clothes on him again, and
then they led him away to be crucified.

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Okay, first thought is one causes
a scarlet robe and one calls it

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a purple robe. I wonder if
that's now I know that Herod put up

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purple robe ontom scarlet robe, I
would think is more red, right,

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I would imagine. Yeah, But
you can have read that looks purply,

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yeah probably so yeah, yeah,
color purple. So let's let me let

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me read this note in the Life
Application Study Bible that it says about Roman

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soldiers. It says when the military
invention of POMPEII in the internal affairs of

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Judea in sixty three BC, Rome
established its presence in Palestine. The Roman

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military presence is visible throughout the Gospels
and during the New Testament period, service

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in the Roman legions was open to
all Roman citizens. A professional volunteer of

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army had replaced a conscripted militia.
The permanent standing army was made up of

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legions of recruited from the ranks of
citizens, expressed officers in the ranks of

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the consul command of the legions on
spot. So occasions, particularly all the

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Great Jewish festivals, when riots and
disorders could be anticipated, the providential governor

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would take up residents in Jerusalem,
accompanied by a substantial contingent of troops.

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And so just a little insight here
about the history of Roman soldiers and understanding

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that a Roman legion contained about two
hundred men. A regiment was a division

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of a Roman legion. Yeah,
yeah, So the Roman legion did not

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contain it's the regiment contained about two
hundred men. Oh okay, oh yeah,

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because the legion is a thousand,
isn't it. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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okay, So a regiment, there'll
be five regiments in the legion.

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So the so it's about two hundred
men that come out to mock Jesus.

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This isn't just a little thing.
That's a big thing, right that they

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bring out Jesus. They decide that
they're going to mock him, they're gonna

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beat him, they're going to rough
him up. They're just gonna play with

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him like a cat plays with a
mouse, right, is what they're doing

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here. And they're incredibly brutal.
Right, So you have a power hungry

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leader in Pilot who wasn't particularly gifted. You have a kind of another power

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hungry half Jewish king Agrippa, who
just dismisses Jesus, just wants me to

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do tricks. You've got a bunch
of just wild eyed radical leaders, religious

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leaders wanting to execute Jesus because they
have multiple reasons. But a lot of

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it was, according to Pilot's view, it was just envy. They didn't

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like that Jesus was so popular.
That's Pilot's take on the whole thing was

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they're just envious. And so there's
this rage, this anger, this brutality

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in this whole process right here that
seems unwarranted and unmerited for a guy that

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basically is famous for saying, turn
the other cheek and go the extra mile

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and treat people the way you want
to be treated, and love your enemy,

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love your enemies, and pray for
them and do good to them,

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and don't judge lest you be judged. And give to Caesar what is Caesar's,

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Give to God what is God's.
And oh, let me heal that

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little girl. Let me, let
me heal that man. Let me solve

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your problems, Let me feed the
hungry, Let me just walk among the

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people and love them. It seems
so inordinately violent and brutal to go after

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a guy like Jesus the way that
they do, but they are. It

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doesn't make any sense, which a
lot of times persecution and you know,

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the fight against what is good and
right seems so heavy handed, far more

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heavy handed than is reasonable. So
the crown of thorns that they made,

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it says here that they took a
wove thorn branches into a crown and put

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it on his head and put a
red stick in his hand as a scepter.

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Yeah. So, you know,
if you've been to church a little

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while, you've been going to church, you know for years you've probably heard

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preachers mention this. But you know, when you're over, when you're over

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in that part of the world and
you see thorns, the thorns are not

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like thorns on a rose bush right
where there's just like, oh, these

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little prickly thorns. And I remember
one time in my backyard I had like

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a I had a it was like
a red bush that was thorny, and

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and those were like maybe twice the
size and twice as pointy as rose thorns.

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And I even thought that was like
killer thorns until you go over in

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Israel and you realize that the thorns
are like sometimes three inches maybe two and

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a half inches long, and I'm
telling you, they are as sharp as

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a needle would be, so imagine
and strong, yeah, imagine, imagine

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just as strong, yeah, in
some cases. So imagine if you were

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to get needles. You know,
it's it's the it's it's the things that

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looked like remember when doctor Strange was
tortured on the Infinity Worst, you know,

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remember that. Yeah, so it's
like it's it's sort of like that

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right where all the needles are coming
at you. But those needles, man,

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I mean, those thorns were like
needles. And when you're over there,

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you touch them and you can't even
barely go to touch the tip of

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them, just to say, well, I want to shut this, and

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it's already immediately in your skin.
So they took those kinds of thorn branches,

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which are the only kinds of thorns
branches over there by the way,

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and they wound them together and they
put them on his head. Well,

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I mean, you know, the
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body and it bleeds the most profusely, right, so there would have been

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blood coming down his face in such
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been probably even maybe even hard to
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going over his nose in his mouth. So it's just an unbelievable thought of

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the cruelty. Right when you were
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of those trees where the thorns they
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yeah, yeah, Yeahah. So
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Dead Sea, and we're I don't
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know, maybe an hour or so, maybe an hour and a half outside

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of Jerusalem, so kind of you
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were a couple of those trees,
and so I thought, oh, neat,

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I'm gonna go get a I'm gonna
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myself so bad. Yeah, And
I wasn't even doing anything. Also,

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I was trying to do is I
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and so I started to bend it
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and it just lit me up.
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pain. And I mean, I've
been around, you know, I'm a

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hunter. I have a pocket knife
right here, right, this razor blade.

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This blade is a razor blade.
You see how I can remove the

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blade, the razor blade, this
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up so quick, right, I've
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I've been thinking about it. I've
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was just a slip in my hand. Bam, lit me up, and

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good news was I mean, I
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it shocked me how painful it was
and how quick they could just penetrate your

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skin like that. So that's what
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Is probably that that's the most commonly
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sequentially they put the chron of thorns
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stick in his hand, right,
which which was decently heavy, right,

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which means it sounds like his crown
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thorns still on, it is almost
unthinkable that could have that could have probably

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killed him there, yeah, you
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but the pain, because you know, it's not going to be his

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time until he's on the cross.
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was just unbelievable. And then to
have the h to have them spit on

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him and mock him and and then
beat him is just unthinkable. The idea

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that ugh, I just can't even
think about it. I think about this

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idea that you know, they they
they're so brutal to him and then at

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the same time just mocking him,
right, and they're bowing down with their

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knees to the ground, like,
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the king of the Jews, and
just this this harassment, and I think

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of a song. There's an old
Southern gospel song that says the lyrics said,

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like a lamb led to the slaughter, Jesus never opened his mouth,

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which is what Isaiah says. From
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grave, he was laid out after
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can hear the angels saying, as
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and the lion became a king,
right, and they're bowing down to him

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in this moment like he's a king. But what we do know is at

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the end, every knee will bow
right, right right, and every tongue

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will confess that he's the King of
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so the chorus on that song says, you won't find him again at the

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whipping post, standing there so meek, and he won't be nailed to a

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rugged cross through his hands and through
his feet. They'll never be another cavalry

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because he don't have to prove a
thing. That day, the lamb became

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the lion, and the lion became
the king. Right. So when he

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rose out of the tomb, the
Bible said, it was like he was

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the lion of Judah. And then
when we see him come back. He's

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the King of Kings. This is
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they're bowing their knee now, they're
mocking him now, but this is the

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last time. He's the Lamb,
right, So we see him as the

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Lamb from in a past tense in
the book Revelation. But he returns to

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Earth as the King of king.
He's got fire in his eyes, he's

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got a blazing sword, he's wearing
a white robe, and he's coming back

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and wiping out all the armies of
this world. And so on the one

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side, I feel so bad for
what's happening, but there is a little

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bit of me I feel bad for
these Roman soldiers because they have no idea

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what they're doing, right, they
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Jesus says, they don't take my
life from me. I'm going to lay

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it down freely. So all these
things Jesus was permitting. At one point,

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you remember he told Peter, he
said, don't you know, I

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could call ten thousand angels, right
right, a whole legion of angels come

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and rescue me. And one angel, two angels came and wiped out entire

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cities in the Old Testament, right, so let's bring in a thousand or

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ten thousand of them, right,
So Jesus is permitting these things. They're

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not abusing Jesus because they had the
power to do. So Jesus was taking

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the abuse for you and me.
But the next time we see him he

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comes back as the King. You
know, if you are a Marvel fan,

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have you ever seen on Disney Plus
the Little Things What If? Have

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you ever seen the what If?
Series? No? So they supposed things.

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So if they say, as they
say, like, what if instead

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of the super Soldier serum going to
uh h Rogers, Captain Rogers, what

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if it would have been given to
the woman what's your name? His girlfriend?

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His girlfriend? Oh good? Just
agent Carter, okay, Agent Carter?

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by the way, when you saw

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Doctor Strange's multi universe and Madness,
uh, that that was doctor Carter was

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uh she played the Captain America member. That was from that was from the

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Yah. Yeah. Remember they went
to a different alternative universe. Well that

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was that was actually based off of
It was a nod to the what If

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series? Okay, so so it's
just it's a what if supposed you know,

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universe, right, and and and
so that whole series was comic books

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when I was a kids, and
it was called The Watcher, and the

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Watcher would see all the different possibilities
and he would he would create these what

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if scenarios and there were a lot
of fun to read because they weren't true.

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And uh, and there's a what
if scenario that plays in my mind

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every single time without exception that I
read this, and is Jesus calling the

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angels. I try to envision this
Raiders of the Lost arc ending kind of

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scene when when when the angels swoop
around and people's faces melt off, right,

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they just destroy everybody. So I
see, I see Jesus standing there,

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you know, and he's bounding chains
and everybody's around them, and he's

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in front of either Pilo Herod or
somebody, you know, and all of

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a sudden, he looks up at
the clouds and he just he squits his

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eyes. He just gives a nod, you know, and all of a

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sudden everything happens, you know,
like there's a there's an earthquake, and

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there's an eruption. Then the clouds
part, you know, there's a voice

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coming down. All of a sudden, these angels came down and they raised

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the lost arc everybody, right,
and then Jesus is like, I'm enough

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of this. I'm going home.
I've had enough of this. And although

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obviously you know, Jesus says,
you'll be glad and one day the whole

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world will rejoice, Yeah, over
the over the sadness. Right, so

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Jesus knows that we're rejoicing now that
he did not do that. Yeah,

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I was gonna say, there's no
gaither song had it not been and it

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was. If Jesus hadn't been willing
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right, and the the the consequences
of that comprehension not the Southern gospel today.

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Yeah, yeah, you're right,
but but there is a what if

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scenario that because I long, and
it's the same instinct that you had,

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You're like, one day's gonna come
back line, you know, King of

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Kings, line of Judah. And
that instinct for me is like I just

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wish in that moment that Jesus was
able to show his power to those guards

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who were beating them and mocking him. Right, it's that it's that well,

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he was able, he chose not
to Yes, I know, but

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I wish he did. He just
just a little bit another I Am moment,

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yes, where he goes I am
and they all fall down. Yes,

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yeah, yeah, it's it's that
moment where at this point he's operating

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as a man taking the punishment of
our sin in his body, right,

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and that's that's what he's doing.
So yeah, well the God part spiritually

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and in the man part physically,
right, because the payment for sin is

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death, which is both a physical
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well, hey, that is a
great place to end, and that wraps

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up today's passage, so hopefully we'll
see you Monday on the Bible Gush