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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun in practical
ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to

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The Bible Guys. My name is
Chris Zarba and this is Wesley Woods.

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Back again. Yes, and if
you have not listened to the first two

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podcasts of this week, I encourage
you to go back and listen because these

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have actually been pretty great. Yeah, they've been packed full of good stuff.

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Yeah. Not saying that Jeff is
greater. These are greater than Jeff's

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because, after all, you can't
fill his shoes even though you have a

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size fourteen and he probably has a
size what ten. It's so funny.

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We covered that on Monday, so
we won't go there. But anyway,

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we're doing we're doing a bang up
job together. We are the Bible Guys

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today, and we are going to
launch into a segment that Desiree has written

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for us and I like these.
This is called a summer draft list,

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and here's outreads. She says,
We're now in the full swing of summer,

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so let's do a draft list of
your favorite summer activities. Do rock

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paper scissors to see who gets the
first pick and go into you have five

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activities each, so for those who
are watching and not listening, you can

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actually see the results. But we're
gonna do rock paper sisters. We go

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one, two, three, Shoot, oh I beat you. So I

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did rock. He did scissors for
the listeners, and so I'll go first.

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Okay, all right. So I
would have to say, uh,

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Number one activity for me is being
on the water on a boat. Now

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I don't I don't have a boat, but I see you need friends with

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a boat. I have two friends
that invite us on boats and uh.

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And we actually have not yet said
yes to a friend in a couple of

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years, but this other friend,
we're on the boat with them. Uh

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and I just absolutely think it's one
of the best things ever. Yeah.

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And so Lake Saint Clair that kind
of thing, right, Yeah, that's

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that's for those who don't live in
Detroit. That's our big body of water.

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Yeah. For me, it's going
to be very similar. I put

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vacation, so we take these long
road trips. My wife has family in

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Georgia and Florida, so we will
literally do a long drive, like,

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spend the night in like Tennessee,
keep driving the next day, visit family

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all along the way. I have
family in Tennessee too, so yeah,

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those are always fun. So you
guys stop in Tennessee, Georgia, and

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Florida. Yeah, so normally we
do the Nashville is like our spend the

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Night spot. If we're hitting Tennessee
on the way down, we'll spend the

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night in Nashville and then cut through
Atlanta and then head on down to like

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the Tampa area. Wow. If
we're bypassing it and just doing spend the

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Night spot, we'll do the Florida. Let's say we leave from Tampa,

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we'll spend the night in Chattanooga or
Knoxville. That's our spend the Night spot,

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and then we keep going to Michigan. Yeah. No, we got

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our spots all all right. So
I'm gonna say number two and enjoy landscaping

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a lot. Okay, so in
the summer that gives me the opportunity to

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go out and do it. Although
right now it's looking pretty rough, so

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I get a lot of work to
do. But yeah, when I do

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have it done, I love,
love love it. Yeah. My wife

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is really into landscaping. I like
the way it looks. I just I

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think I have like trauma from a
kid being forced to work in the yard

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when I was young. So yeah, I'm not a big So we actually

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have a lawn guy that does our
lawn. I don't even mow the lawn.

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Wow. Yeah, wow, Yeah, I'm not a big landscaping.

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I like the way it looks and
then I you know, I'll help my

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wife plant flowers, but not big
into that. So what's your second one?

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My second one is kind of like
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I put many road trips. So
this is something my daughter and I have

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been doing ever since she was like
three. We will literally hop in the

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car on a Saturday and just drive. We have no destination. We'll figure

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it out as we go. So
we're on six ninety six and it's like,

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okay, do we go north towards
like Birch Run or do we go

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south towards Ohio? I don't know, and we will literally make it up

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as we go. So we've been
doing that a long time. Wow,

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that sounds like good. Just a
little many like Saturday trips will do.

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Yeah. Yeah, I've done it
a few times. But I love those

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kinds. You just end up where
you end up. Yeah, we end

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up where we end up eat there
and yeah, right, okay, number

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three, I'm gonna choose putt putt. Yeah. Yeah, So you can't

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do that in the winter obviously,
and you know when the bad weather happens

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in the spring or the you know, but usually you know, spring,

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summer. But I think we're gonna
do pup up. My parents are in

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town. That'll be this weekend,
and I think we're probably all going to

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go and do metro golf. Yeah. Now, your dad isn't super competitive

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busy he is? Yeah, he
is? Or do you think I get

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there's gonna be a sermon out of
this one, right, So for me

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for my number three, I put
festivals. I remember being a kid in

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Heart Plaza in Detroit used to have
a lot of free festivals and it would

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be like the Jazz Festival and the
this festival, and we would go down

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there and just like spend the whole
like Saturday or Sunday. It was really

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fun. Yeah that's interesting, Yeah, because my number four is going to

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be those parking lot carnivals. Oh
yeah, yeah, I love parking lot

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carnivals. Yeah. We have elephant
ears. Elephant ears. We have fond

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memories. So my family and my
kids are grown adults and and here they

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are in their twenties and we'll be
driving in a car and if they see

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a parking lot festival, they go, and then we have to go.

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And so yeah, because we just
went every time we saw them as a

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kid, and you know they as
kids, they love them. Yeah,

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no, it's cool. Yeah for
me. Number four is beach. So

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I'm not a big beach person,
so I mean, we can go or

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not go. It's not a big
deal to me. So but it is

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fun to go to the beach,
put your feet in the water and all

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that stuff. So yeah, that's
great. And I'm gonna say number five

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is grilling, Okay, Yeah,
grill is just something you don't get to

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do other than you know, for
the most part summer. Yeah, and

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I think it's just you know,
there's nothing like a grail, buddy.

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Yeah. And my last one is
sports. So all that outdoor sports stuff

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you do, like Fourth of July
all the yeah, the volleyball with and

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then no one can actually play volleyball, but it's just fun being with family,

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like all those sports holiday type things. That's great. Yeah, that's

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great. Awesome. Well, hey, there you go. Summer draft list.

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Yeah, so let's go ahead and
dive into Exodus chapter thirty two.

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We're covering the instructions that God is
giving to Moses on the mountain. Yeah,

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and what we're about to see is
that Moses has been up there a

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long time. Now. We covered
the chaos ensues. Yes, well we

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basically, you know, we're only
doing milestones of the Old Testament, like

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main highlights, so we're not going
to you know, do everything, but

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we're skipping over. You know,
there's more instructions on the top of the

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mountain, money for the tabernacles,
for the wash basin. You know,

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she talks about craftsman. He actually
gives very explicit instructions about keeping the Sabbath.

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And then finally there's something that happens
on the ground. And this is

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where Exodus chapter thirty two picks up. And we're going to read all of

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it, right, Yeah, one
through twenty nine, one through twenty nine.

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So this is Exodus chapter thirty two
versus one through twenty nine, and

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it says when the people saw how
long it was taking Moses to come down

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the mountain, they gathered around aarin. Come on, they said, make

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us some gods who can lead us. We don't know what happened to this

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fellow Moses. Now did Moses just
lead them out of the land of Egypt?

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But they're talking like, he's this, what happened to this fellow Moses?

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It brought us here? Yeah?
Well, you know, and by

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the way, he could have been
gone a year. Yeah, like we

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don't know, we don't know how
long it took. But just that phrase

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just sounds funny to me. Well
for them to say, fellow, he

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would have had it been pretty distant. Yeah, it has been gone a

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long time. Yeah, And it
says who brought us here from the land

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of Egypt. Verse two says,
so Aaron said, take the gold rings

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from the ears of your wives and
sons and daughters and bring them to me.

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All the people took the gold rings
from their ears and brought them to

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Erin. Then Aaron took the gold, melted it down, and molded it

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into the shape of a calf.
When the people saw it, they exclaimed,

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oh, Israel, these are the
gods who brought you out of the

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land of Egypt. Aaron saw how
excited the people were, so he built

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an altar in front of the calf. Then he announced tomorrow will be the

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festival to the Lord. The people
got up early the next morning to sacrifice

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burnt offerings and peace offerings. After
this, they celebrated with feasting and drinking,

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and they indulged in pagan revelry.
Verse seven. The Lord told Moses,

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quick, go down the mountain.
Your people, whom you brought from

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the land of Egypt, have corrupted
themselves. How quickly they have turned away

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from the way I've commanded them to
live. They have melted down gold and

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made a calf, and they have
bowed down and sacrificed to it. They

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are saying, these are your gods, O Israel, who brought you out

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of the land of Egypt. Verse
nine. Then the Lord said, I

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have seen how stubborn and rebellious these
people are. Now leave me alone,

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so my fierce anger can blaze against
them, and I will destroy them.

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Then I will make you, Moses, into a great nation. But Moses

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tried to pacify the Lord his god, O Lord, He said, why

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are you so angry with your own
people, who brought you from the land

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of Egypt with such great power and
such a strong hand, whom you yes,

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let me reread that, Oh Lord, he said, why are you

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so angry with your own people,
whom you brought from the land of Egypt

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with such great power, in such
a great strong hand Verse twelve. Why

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let the Egyptians say their God rescue
them with the evil intention of slaughtering them

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in the mountains and wiping them from
the face of the earth. Turn away

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from your fierce anger. Change your
mind about this terrible disaster you have threatened

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against your people. Verse thirteen.
Remember your servants, Abraham, Isaac,

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and Jacob. You bound yourself with
an oath to them, saying, I

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will make your descendants as numerous as
the stars of heaven, and I will

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give them all of this land that
I have promised to your descendants, and

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they will possess it forever. So
the Lord changed his mind about the terrible

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disaster he had threatened to bring on
his people Verse fifteen. Then Moses turned

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and went down the mountain. He
held in his hands the two stone tablets

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inscribed with the terms of the covenant. They were inscribed on both sides,

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front and back. These tablets were
God's work. The words on them were

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written by God himself. When Joshua
heard the boisterous noise of the people shouting

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below. Shouting below them, he
exclaimed to Moses, it sounds like war

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in the camp. But Moses replied, no, it's not a shout of

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victory nor the wailing of defeat.
I hear the sound of a celebration.

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When they came near the camp,
Moses saw the calf and the dancing,

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and he burned with anger. He
threw the stone tablets to the ground,

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smashing them. At the foot of
the mountain, he took the calf they

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had made and burned it. Then
he grounded into powder, threw it into

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the water, and forced the people
to drink it. He was ticked,

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if you think you verse twenty one. Finally, he turned to Aaron and

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demanded, what did these people do
make to make you bring such terrible sin

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upon us? Verse twenty two.
Don't you get so upset? My lord?

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Aaron replied, you yourself know how
evil these people are, so Aaron's

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kind of pushing the blame a little
bit. They said to me, make

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us gods who will lead us.
We don't know what happened to this fellow

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Moses, who brought us here from
the land of Egypt. Verse twenty four.

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So I told them, whoever has
gold jewelry, take it off.

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When they brought it to me,
I simply threw it into the fire,

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and out came this calf, which
I think is hilarious. It's hilarious.

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Verse twenty five. Moses saw that
Aaron had had let the people get completely

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out of control, much to the
amusement of their enemies. So he stood

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at the entrance of the camp and
shouted, all of you who are on

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the Lord's side, come here and
join me, and all the Levites gathered

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around him. Verse twenty seven.
Moses told them, this is what the

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Lord, the God of Israel,
says. Each of you, take your

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swords and go back and forth from
one end of the camp to the other.

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Kill everyone, even your brother's friends
and neighbors. The Levites obeyed Moses'

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command, and about three thousand people
die that day. Then Moses said to

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the told the Levites, today you
have ordained yourselves for the service of the

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Lord, for you obade him even
though it meant killing your own sons and

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brothers. Today you have earned a
blessing. And yuck, there's a lot

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that happened there. Yeah, there's
there's a bunch of yuck with sin,

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isn't there? Yeah? And so
uh wow on that whole story, and

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it represents so many things. And
yet it's interesting because even though symbolically we

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can apply it to today. Oh, today we have we have many things

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that we place, you know,
in God's place, whatever is reserved for

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God. We can worship, money, we can worship you know, even

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our own children or a relationship or
our job or whatever it is. Uh.

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And those are the false gods,
you know, that we have in

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our lives. So it's transferable and
it's definitely symbolic and it happens for a

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reason. But if you were to
really truly try to imagine yourself as a

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part of this story, yeah,
yuck. Yeah, it is unbelievably just

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painful. And uh. You know
it's interesting about Aaron is it's the one

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verse that really stands out, isn't
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beginning, number one, it was
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to that. He says, Oh, it's because the people I said,

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bring me all your ear rings and
golds, and he said, and I

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threw it in the fire. And
how came this calf and yeah, and

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yet the Bible, the inerrancy of
the Bible, Yeah, the truth of

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the Bible tells us exactly what he
did. Aaron took the gold and melted

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it down and molded it into the
shape of a cat. Yeah, so

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it didn't just poof, just like
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guess what Aaron is trying to do
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this false god. Like, what
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trying to say, you know,
hey, there's some supernatural things. Don't

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blame me that is happening here.
I don't know. To me, this

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reminds me of just making a reference
to today, trying to play both sides

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of the fence. Oh for sure, you know there are people I can

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think of. Maybe there's someone listening
and on your job. Maybe there are

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things that are being presented to you
that aren't illegal, but they just kind

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of skirt up against unethical or immoral. And you're wondering, well, everyone

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else is doing it, should I
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make a decision what side of the
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Right? Are you going to be
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and you know, make the false
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to what you know God said to
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you when you meet a person.
I had a staff member I worked at

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my previous church who he was known
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his mouth. And he would say
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if you went to another person who
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would he would play it to that
opinion. Yeah, And he would literally

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say two things. And you go
back and forth, and you know,

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guess what people talk. Yeah,
and you're gonna get You're gonna get in

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trouble for that. You're gonna be
known for you. He told me this,

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well, he told me that.
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almost nothing worse than getting tagged the
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their mouth, unless you're Erin's worse. So let me read this Life Application

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Study Bible note about Aaron. It
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members use their special skills identify or
no excuse me. Ideally, each member's

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strengths will contribute something important to the
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up another's weakness. Aaron made a
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with one skill Moses lacked, effective
public speaking. But while aarin was necessary

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to Moses, he needed Moses as
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little direction on his own. There
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chosen leader and trained leader was.
The pliability that made Aaron a good follower

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also made him a week leader.
Isn't that interesting? His major failures were

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caused by his inability to stand alone. His yielding to the public pressure of

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making an idol was a good example
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more of the follower than the leader. In us even be good followers if

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we are following a good leader.
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human deserves our complete and unquestionable allegiance. Only God deserves our complete loyalty and

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obedience. We need an effective team
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and abilities that God has given us. So anyway it goes on, it

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talks about this strengths and weaknesses of
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but you know his strengths are.
He was the first high priest of God

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in Israel. He was an effective
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Moses. The lessons he learned in
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which he weaves together for use for
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was the very skills that make us
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a poor leader. It's really interesting, isn't it. How Aaron is such

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a great compliment to Moses, and
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a great number two should never be
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God makes moseses and God makes errans, and there's nothing wrong with that,

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right. So I think that that's
a really great sermon right there in

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the middle of everything. Now,
Chris, to make this practical for the

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listeners, what would you say to
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where it would just be easier to
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be easier to just yield with I
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don't want to be the outsider.
I mean, if I don't go with

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the crowd, you know, maybe
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be friends with me anymore. What
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in that area and that could have
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a little bit. Well, you
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connects the dots for me to so
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that I want to say that has
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think about how much you love God. So in the New Testament, we

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aren't obeying God because we absolutely have
to, right because because we're given grace

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have to, meaning that God isn't
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to punish us. Right, There's
not going to be three thousand people dying

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by the sword because of our sin. And that's not the way God works

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anymore. So in other words,
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It is much more effective to be
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to. And so we are supposed
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of gratitude that Jesus has done things
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remember this that God's response to sin
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But his response to sin is still
he hates sin. He is just as

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angry in his heart. There's still
a consequence. And if you want to

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sin, if you want to love
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favor, if you want to receive
the blessings that are already in store for

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you, that are in reserve for
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hates sin just as much as he
does. Right here. You know what,

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the only difference is, the only
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drastically, right. God's reaction to
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So is it if not for Jesus, God would still react to sin this

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way because God still hates it.
Okay, curveball right here? Yeah,

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what about the person who says,
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Chris, but I just want to
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it lightly on the other side.
I'm not diving in. I'm staying on

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this side. I'm just gonna just
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just to get a little taste.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So the you know it's Jeff talks
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The window example, he uses about
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right, well, I mean,
you know, it's it's it's found in

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so many things we've already read,
even a Lot in Neighbraham, where it

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says, you know, a Lot
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on, and then Lot would pitch
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the opening of his tent gazing toward
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it says before too long, Lot
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which means if you dip your toe
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I'm not getting too close to Sodom
and Gomora, you know, I'm just

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I'm just getting near the region.
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I'm lusting after it. Before you
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you blink your eyes, and all
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of it. So which I would
say carrying yeah right exactly, which means,

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which means dipping your toe in sin
may seem thrilling, and you may

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seem think to yourself, well,
I'm strong enough, I have control of

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this it's not an addiction, it's
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before we know it, we realize
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you know, there's no sense in
dipping our toe in sin because the examples

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giving the scripture over and over are
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do more than that, because pretty
soon dipping your toe isn't gonna be

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good enough. Do you ever wade
into water and it's cold, but then

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eventually it becomes warm? Yeah,
and it's like, man, it felt

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like ten minutes ago this was freezing. Yeah, you know, yeah,

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yeah, dipping my toe and oh
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it doesn't feel exhiliarated anymore. Now
I wan to dip my whole leg in

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it. Now I want to dip
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but at least I'm not over my
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we're over our heads, yep.
And so that's what dipping our toe and

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sid means. So that's why Jesus
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So we talked about Joseph already too. So what did Joseph do?

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He left Potiphar's wife left his jacket
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I'm not even gonna I'm not even
gonna flirt with this idea. Yeah.

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So essentially you're saying, don't even
get close. No, don't, don't

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even get close to the line,
don't even Yeah. And so so Moses

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builds this false god, Moses,
excuse me, Aaron builds this false god.

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Moses comes down the mountain and Moses
has this unbelievable wrath. Yeah,

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he's angry. And because he's the
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which, by the way, there's
another sermon in there altogether, which

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says that God can be persuaded.
Yeah, verse fourteen. So the Lord

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changed his mind on behalf of Moses. Right. So therefore we know that

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the effectual, fervent prayer of a
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Right. So our prayer can change
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We can move on someone else's behalf, and God can change his mind.

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That's what That's what Jesus teaches.
Jesus says, Hey, because of his

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persistence, he keeps knocking. I'm
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him the loaf of bread, right, even though I say go away five

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times, because of his persistence and
so therefore that is how the Kingdom of

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God works. Jesus tells us this. And so you know, don't be

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afraid to continue to go to God, pray for things that haven't happened yet,

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you know, intervene on someone else's
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because God can change his mind.
And then and then and then Moses has

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wrath and and uh, you know, good gosh. I mean forcing them

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to drink water with gold dust.
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into powder, threw it in the
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This was like deliberate, like at
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there's a million people that you know
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which I'm assuming it was, right, you know that that the delusion,

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the delusion of the dissolve even though
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would just dissipate more, dissipate more. Yeah. Yeah, so I just

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think, Wow, what an unbelievable
word picture. Right, this is maybe

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this is where parents get washing your
mouth out with soap. Yeah, I

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guess so, right, But but
yeah, so you know, it just

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goes to show you the ultimate lesson, the ultimate sermon in here is we

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violate this time and time again in
our lives. Whenever we decide to place

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anything else in the space that is
reserved for God. That is a false

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idol. Right when God says,
lower your pride and go apologize and we

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say, nope, I'm not going
to handle my conflict first. Yeah,

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and then what we're doing there is
we're placing ourselves right, or maybe the

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wisdom of our father right, or
generational sin, whatever it is, and

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we're placing that in the place of
God. Whatever takes place of the advice

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of God, the words of God, the nature of God, you know,

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the worship that is reserved for the
worship of God. It is a

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false sight in our lives. And
it could be anything. And Jesus says,

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the main competitive competitor is money,
right. You know, that's why

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there's two thousand verses about money more
than any other topic in the Bible,

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because God knows that's our chief competitor
for our affection. So anyway, yeah,

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there's a bunch of stuff in there, right, So it looks like

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our time. We're at our maximum
time here, so hopefully we will see

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you next time on the Bible.
Guys,