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Hello everyone and welcome to Bikini's
After Babies.

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We have another exciting episode to go
over with you today.

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And of course I am one of your hosts Mandy
Rashawn here with your other lovely host.

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Hello everyone, I'm Gillian Hughes.

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Thank you so much for tuning in.

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I'm excited to share today's episode with
you.

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We're gonna do something a little bit
different.

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We are a couple days after Mandy has come
back from her show opener.

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She prepped for this competition for a
really long time.

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We've been talking about it pretty much
since we went live with our podcast.

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So we thought it would be fun to do like a
little show recap, talk about like how the

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show went.

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how she's feeling after the show and then
thoughts about how the rest of her season

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is going to look.

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So, yeah.

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So where do we want to start?

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You want to just kind of start with, you
know, your Friday when you got down there

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and how you were feeling?

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Because I think we had done a bit of a
peak week episode last week before you

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left.

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And so maybe just, yeah.

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of covered everything and it went through
like exactly what was going to happen like

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during peak week.

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So I got down to Orlando.

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Yeah, I got down to Orlando Thursday.

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after, or Thursday morning, I flew out
super early and we got there, we really

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got settled in, you know, I had, um, went
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needed, you know, it's always really
simple in peak week, I mean, it's really

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like honey, rice, cakes, you know, very
simple things.

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So got settled into the condo and just put
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There isn't too much to do Thursday, kind
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Most shows you do check -ins Friday.

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So then when Friday rolls around, I was
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like the day you get your number, you do
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The show I did had an event an hour before
registration was open to where you could

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go see the stage, you could kind of meet
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So I definitely took advantage of that.

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Kind of like, yeah, like if you have an
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advantage of meeting other people, being a
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like this was open to where we could go on
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The pros actually moved us around.

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So it was really fun.

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So I went and did that before check -ins
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I met Laura Lee, which was super cool.

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I met Sandy, the head judge and just being
able to like immerse yourself into like

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the weekend of show weekend.

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It's not just stepping on stage.

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It's the people, the energy, like
everybody's there to, you know, bring

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their best package.

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So.

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Yeah.

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Like Joe, I think it's Joe, right?

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He does such a great job in promoting the
shows and just like, I think he called it

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like a dress rehearsal, right?

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Which is really nice if you've never
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seen what the stage looks like.

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I think it's super helpful just to kind of
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like some feedback from pros and just meet
the pros.

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Like I remember us talking about like the
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these, these pros backstage.

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Mm -hmm.

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And, uh, and I was like, these are like
our celebrities.

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Like I wouldn't really care about meeting
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Jen Dory, you know, like would be like,
changed my life, right?

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Yeah.

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So.

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cool is it was just so down to earth.

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There wasn't, like, you know when you go
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expo or some type of like thing like that,
like a big event, you know, you do have to

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wait in line or you do have to kind of
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it's gonna flow.

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This was so open.

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It was like just talking and meeting and
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And they were there all weekend.

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So after I did my check -ins, I got my
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confirmed.

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Then I went to tan.

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So of course, if you're listening,
whenever you go to tan, you're going to be

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naked and you're going to be usually 99 %
of the time naked with other people or

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other women.

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So just be prepared for that.

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I always forget there's always women back
there that are like, oh, we strip naked.

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It's like, yeah, you just stand here,
strip naked, get your color and like go

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about your night.

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everyone's naked.

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name and nobody cares.

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They're just making sure they get like
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separate.

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Just, you don't want it to sound like it's
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Yeah, they're separate.

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I'll never forget, I was at a show one
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they were like, your chest, like my, like
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my neck and chest area just doesn't dry
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I just, the tan doesn't stick to it.

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Anyways, I was leaning over a fan and.

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I look over and this girl was like waving
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I follow you on Instagram.

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I was like, Oh, I'm like, um, yeah.

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Just eyes up here.

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Yeah, it is.

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Then they see every the tanning people are
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push your butt back.

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They have a way of wording it.

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That doesn't sound like, you know, Lena.

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So sorry.

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I digress.

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So you got tanned.

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the tan then you really just go and put
your feet up and you know You always

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throughout the whole time you talk to your
coach your coach is gonna want to like

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know how you're feeling They'll probably
want some pictures.

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They'll ask you to send stuff like every
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communicate with my coach and you know,
just how do I feel?

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How do I look the first coat of tan and
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I went home and I went to I went to the
condo and I went to sleep really early

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because My hair and makeup was really
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It was 4 a .m.

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And this was very interesting to me
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hair and makeup and I had text you like
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I like it because I got it done so early

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that I was done by six and nothing
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I didn't have to do another coat of tan
until like 730, 745.

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And then the athlete meet starts at eight
and then your show starts at nine.

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So like everything really flowed really
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Nothing was, you weren't late for
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You weren't like over, like overbooked or
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There wasn't, it was just really smooth.

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Like everything was just flowing really
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But after I did our athlete meeting, you
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you just chill backstage.

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Like you have all your stuff with you.

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You have your cooler blanket, you know,
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You get your next coat of tan if you need
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However many coats, everybody's skin's
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Cause there's some girls that need like
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two and I've always been fine.

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But everybody's kind of different with
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always do, I shouldn't be giving this
information out on this podcast, but I'm

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gonna tell you what I do.

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I'm gonna tell you what I do because,
okay, here's the caveat.

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I'm really short.

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I am five foot tall.

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So I tend to get in the mix with other
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And generally we get like, you know, girls
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lighter than everybody else.

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I have blonde hair.

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So I get the standard tan that they give
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coat on show day.

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But I do a tan like a coat of pro tan
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tan, because I don't lay in a tanning bed.

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I don't like have this year.

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I didn't even go on a vacation this
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a base tan.

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And some people do like in the early days
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I definitely used to like lay in the
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It was like just what we all did in
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I've done just to fit into my height
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I don't think it's like a must do.

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And really honestly, like the spray tan
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everybody the same shade, which is the big
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tanner because they're kind of controlling
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Cause you could be that girl that tans
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out and you're lighter than everybody else
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So, you know, they can adjust according
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I've always done a coat of Protan in my
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Like usually if I am competing Saturday,
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I just feel like it kind of makes me look
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those check -in photos like the week of
peak week when you're super flat and

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you're just like white as a ghost.

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I'm like, I need to start looking more
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So that little coat of tan helps.

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So it's a little secret that I do.

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Ask your coach, but.

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flat are just like, ugh.

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So for everybody listening, the word flat,
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low, whenever you have low calories and
low carbs, your muscle tissue, so like for

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bikini, you're looking at your delts,
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hamstrings, you start noticing that they
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three weeks ago, and you look kind of
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because you're depleted.

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And so it's not a great feeling because
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and you're getting kind of insecure about
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But it's a part of the process because
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process is to kind of fill back out
whatever you and your coaches process is,

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then you aren't flat anymore.

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But like yeah, those check -in photos
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They weren't there.

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makeup, just like 4am.

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I know.

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Every month, like mine's every Monday.

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Well, now it's gonna be tomorrow because I
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So I just, I've actually, I got up at 2 30
this morning and flew, but our flight was

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so smooth.

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I slept the entire flight and then have
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everything.

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But, so back to show day.

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So on show day, Saturday, I, it,

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The pros went on after us.

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So we didn't get a chance to see any other
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But in the morning, it just, again, it was
just really smooth.

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It was a normal show.

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It started at nine and you see your lineup
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And...

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It's really what it was and then as we got
to bikini and I went I went in What was it

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masters?

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35 D I was and then and which is open and
then I did open G and it's always by your

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height class if you're listening so for
bikini They're always gonna put you

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wherever your height classes and I'm like
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like right there at like G or D or H or
something like that However, like the

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promoter lines it up.

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So yeah, I went out there and it was it
was a lot like I will say I was so

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nervous because when I was backstage I was
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used to being backstage so much so it
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happy and it's all good but definitely
when I hit the stage and the lights and

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the judges and everything as much as I
practice it's still like the nerves got me

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like hit me in my knees so

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Like I watched the live stream and I mean,
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You just, you looked like so beautiful.

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And it was the first time I'd seen the
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makeup and everything.

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And you know, you just, you looked
absolutely amazing.

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00:11:32,566 --> 00:11:36,956
a lot of good compliments about the green
suit on my skin, which I absolutely love.

234
00:11:36,956 --> 00:11:40,866
Like Toxic Angels did a great job with
that color.

235
00:11:41,646 --> 00:11:47,686
So, but yeah, so then prejudging was over
and then whenever prejudging is over, it

236
00:11:47,686 --> 00:11:51,746
just depends how soon finals come.

237
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We had such a big gap.

238
00:11:54,466 --> 00:11:58,606
So I went back to my condo and I just took
a nap.

239
00:11:58,606 --> 00:12:00,214
And it's funny because like,

240
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It's crazy how easy it is to take a nap
with all of that energy going.

241
00:12:03,604 --> 00:12:06,654
You just like lay down like a mummy
because you don't want to mess your hair

242
00:12:06,654 --> 00:12:13,274
and makeup up and you're like sleep and
somehow you just you just go to sleep.

243
00:12:13,294 --> 00:12:16,254
prejudging, tell me how you felt.

244
00:12:16,254 --> 00:12:18,754
Did you have any idea how you had done?

245
00:12:19,094 --> 00:12:22,314
I had sent you some photos and some video.

246
00:12:22,314 --> 00:12:24,904
So how were you feeling about how the
morning went?

247
00:12:26,154 --> 00:12:29,814
so happy you asked me this because I
actually felt not great.

248
00:12:29,814 --> 00:12:33,804
I didn't and it is just a part of the
sport.

249
00:12:33,804 --> 00:12:36,324
So I was very excited going into the show.

250
00:12:36,324 --> 00:12:37,454
I loved my physique.

251
00:12:37,454 --> 00:12:38,644
My measurements have grown.

252
00:12:38,644 --> 00:12:45,214
My whole physique has grown tremendously
and my health has grown tremendously.

253
00:12:45,214 --> 00:12:48,160
So I was very, huh?

254
00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,600
much as well, like your stage
presentation, your maturity in the sport,

255
00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:58,480
like it's a huge, huge change, not just in
your physique, your physique has improved.

256
00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,770
Like, I mean, you look night and day
difference than you did two years ago.

257
00:13:01,770 --> 00:13:03,540
So like so many things have changed.

258
00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:06,106
Sorry, I just wanted to sing your praises
a little bit.

259
00:13:06,106 --> 00:13:06,886
I appreciate it.

260
00:13:06,886 --> 00:13:09,026
Because that's like, okay, that's what it
took.

261
00:13:09,026 --> 00:13:12,726
So, okay, for one, my husband and my son
were with me, but I never liked them to

262
00:13:12,726 --> 00:13:13,576
come to prejudging.

263
00:13:13,576 --> 00:13:15,116
It's something I just like to do by
myself.

264
00:13:15,116 --> 00:13:15,826
It really is.

265
00:13:15,826 --> 00:13:18,406
We've gone to enough shows to where I've
learned this.

266
00:13:18,406 --> 00:13:22,336
And so I like to be by myself and just be
in that time and the moment and absorb it.

267
00:13:22,336 --> 00:13:26,286
And then Erin will take Carson and they
actually went to the water park when this

268
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was going on.

269
00:13:27,426 --> 00:13:31,426
So after the show, so for Open Masters D,
it was just me.

270
00:13:31,426 --> 00:13:34,946
And that was my first time ever, ever
being just me.

271
00:13:34,946 --> 00:13:35,800
Like I've

272
00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,340
I've competed so many times and I've never
been an only in a category, but it

273
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happens.

274
00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,780
So if you're listening, if you register
for any category and there is nobody else

275
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in that category with you, you'll by
default get first place in that category.

276
00:13:49,460 --> 00:13:53,840
But in prejudging, they'll put you with
other girls just so you can be on stage

277
00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:54,880
with other girls.

278
00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:59,360
But for finals, you'll just by default get
first place because you're the only one in

279
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that category.

280
00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,290
And that's just something you can't
control.

281
00:14:02,290 --> 00:14:03,900
You can't control who shows up.

282
00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:05,720
So I did that.

283
00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,160
And that was fine.

284
00:14:07,220 --> 00:14:12,160
But when I went for my open class and I
had, it was three of us, yeah.

285
00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,250
So it was three of us and I did my open
class.

286
00:14:14,250 --> 00:14:19,320
And again, I was just mad at myself when I
got off stage because I couldn't believe

287
00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,360
how nervous I got.

288
00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,060
I thought I would have a lot more self
-control.

289
00:14:24,060 --> 00:14:27,180
But again, I didn't know what it looked
like.

290
00:14:27,180 --> 00:14:31,200
And after you had sent me the videos, I
was like, okay, it doesn't even look like

291
00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:31,640
I'm nervous.

292
00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:33,320
I just was nervous.

293
00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,440
So.

294
00:14:34,646 --> 00:14:37,786
But I felt like I felt like I could have
done so much better.

295
00:14:37,786 --> 00:14:40,236
And so I actually got in my feelings a
little bit.

296
00:14:40,236 --> 00:14:46,746
I was like, I was a little defeated and I
was like, I can't believe I didn't do as

297
00:14:46,746 --> 00:14:48,046
well as I wanted to do.

298
00:14:48,046 --> 00:14:51,816
And I really wanted to like just shine so
bright and blah, blah, blah.

299
00:14:51,816 --> 00:14:54,366
So I got like really in my feelings for a
little bit.

300
00:14:54,366 --> 00:14:57,766
And then a mix of things happened.

301
00:14:57,766 --> 00:15:04,600
So between the Uber from like the event to
the condo, you were texting me.

302
00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,558
Thank you.

303
00:15:05,558 --> 00:15:10,798
Bunch of people were texting me like the
girls that you know, we train to friends

304
00:15:10,798 --> 00:15:16,458
in my neighborhood to like everybody just
gym people Sharing stuff about me and

305
00:15:16,458 --> 00:15:20,798
everything and I was just like You know,
this is a part of it.

306
00:15:20,798 --> 00:15:25,718
This is the sport like you You lose some
and you win some and for one.

307
00:15:25,718 --> 00:15:28,478
I didn't even know if I lost anything It's
just more I wish I would have done better

308
00:15:28,478 --> 00:15:32,398
But I was like, you know, this is a part
of it sometimes you like go in and you

309
00:15:32,398 --> 00:15:35,512
take home all the trophies and sometimes
you go in and you like

310
00:15:35,512 --> 00:15:38,032
you get defeated.

311
00:15:38,032 --> 00:15:43,272
So I went back and I did a hotel room
photo shoot which was super fun because

312
00:15:43,272 --> 00:15:46,222
all of the girls were asking me for like,
what does your glam look like?

313
00:15:46,222 --> 00:15:50,772
And I hadn't had time to stop and take
photos of my hair and makeup and all this

314
00:15:50,772 --> 00:15:51,252
stuff.

315
00:15:51,252 --> 00:15:56,232
So I did a hotel room cute photo shoot
which was adorable so I could show

316
00:15:56,232 --> 00:15:58,792
everybody my hair and makeup and stew.

317
00:15:58,792 --> 00:16:00,214
And then I took a nap.

318
00:16:00,214 --> 00:16:05,214
and I really like absorbed all of it, you
know?

319
00:16:05,214 --> 00:16:08,214
Like I was like, this is so much more than
a win or a loss.

320
00:16:08,214 --> 00:16:10,294
This is so much more than just trophies.

321
00:16:10,294 --> 00:16:12,254
This is my first show of the season.

322
00:16:12,254 --> 00:16:13,534
I don't know my feedback.

323
00:16:13,534 --> 00:16:17,274
I don't even know what I technically look
like on stage because I haven't had any

324
00:16:17,274 --> 00:16:17,794
pictures.

325
00:16:17,794 --> 00:16:21,314
Like you sent me the live stream, but like
the stage shots.

326
00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:23,404
So yeah.

327
00:16:23,404 --> 00:16:24,644
Like, that's so weird, too.

328
00:16:24,644 --> 00:16:29,424
Like, I think that if you practice a lot,
like, and you see videos of yourself and

329
00:16:29,424 --> 00:16:32,004
you see a mirror and then you go out there
and you're just like, I don't have any

330
00:16:32,004 --> 00:16:33,874
idea, like what that looked like.

331
00:16:33,874 --> 00:16:37,724
Or, I mean, there's been times where I was
on the center.

332
00:16:37,724 --> 00:16:38,633
I didn't even know it.

333
00:16:38,633 --> 00:16:42,204
Like, I'm like, I don't even I don't even
know where I I ended up, you know, or you

334
00:16:42,204 --> 00:16:46,164
think you totally bombed and then you end
up going back at night and, you know, you

335
00:16:46,164 --> 00:16:47,074
end up doing better.

336
00:16:47,074 --> 00:16:50,644
But I think that's where expectations are
so hard in this sport.

337
00:16:50,644 --> 00:16:51,824
And I don't think you.

338
00:16:51,824 --> 00:16:53,704
had unrealistic expectations.

339
00:16:53,704 --> 00:16:58,864
I think you realized like what I want is
to turn pro.

340
00:16:58,864 --> 00:17:02,544
And so what I need to do is compete on,
you know, bigger stages.

341
00:17:02,544 --> 00:17:04,424
And I want to get feedback from Sandy.

342
00:17:04,424 --> 00:17:08,724
And I want to like be tactical and
strategic and and grow for the division

343
00:17:08,724 --> 00:17:09,884
and do all these things.

344
00:17:09,884 --> 00:17:14,984
And and I think what's hard about that is
like then you go from, you know, maybe you

345
00:17:14,984 --> 00:17:18,444
do a show and there's like 20 bikini girls
in the entire show.

346
00:17:18,444 --> 00:17:21,104
And, you know, you walk away with like.

347
00:17:21,104 --> 00:17:26,404
know, first or second, and then you throw
yourself in the mix and there's like 150

348
00:17:26,404 --> 00:17:29,764
amazing athletes anybody could turn pro,
right?

349
00:17:29,764 --> 00:17:32,084
And so it's so hard to have expectations.

350
00:17:32,084 --> 00:17:37,304
And I think, like what you said about, you
know, the feedback you were getting and it

351
00:17:37,304 --> 00:17:38,784
being a positive thing.

352
00:17:38,784 --> 00:17:43,664
I think for me, sometimes I can't look at
anything because I can take that two

353
00:17:43,664 --> 00:17:44,364
different ways.

354
00:17:44,364 --> 00:17:44,944
So, you know,

355
00:17:44,944 --> 00:17:45,634
How did you do?

356
00:17:45,634 --> 00:17:48,044
And I don't want to disappoint anybody or
let anybody down.

357
00:17:48,044 --> 00:17:51,804
I'm still trying to process kind of
everything that went on and I don't really

358
00:17:51,804 --> 00:17:52,604
know anything yet.

359
00:17:52,604 --> 00:17:54,044
I don't want to sound ungrateful.

360
00:17:54,044 --> 00:17:58,184
And you know, there's people that are
messaging me that, you know, they just,

361
00:17:58,184 --> 00:18:02,044
you know, followed my entire prep and
they're like rooting me on and they, they

362
00:18:02,044 --> 00:18:06,304
want to look like me and I don't want them
to feel like bad, like, Hey, I just

363
00:18:06,304 --> 00:18:06,964
totally ate it.

364
00:18:06,964 --> 00:18:07,924
I got last place.

365
00:18:07,924 --> 00:18:11,504
Like I don't, I didn't, I don't want to,
cause that was my experience last year at

366
00:18:11,504 --> 00:18:13,294
this exact show that you went to.

367
00:18:13,294 --> 00:18:13,968
Um,

368
00:18:13,968 --> 00:18:17,608
And I, you know, I just, for me, I, I
sometimes I just have to put like, I just

369
00:18:17,608 --> 00:18:23,248
need a minute to like think about
everything and, and, and yeah, I don't

370
00:18:23,248 --> 00:18:25,352
know if I'm explaining myself very well,
but.

371
00:18:25,462 --> 00:18:28,782
so I know exactly what you're talking
about.

372
00:18:28,822 --> 00:18:30,022
It was weird.

373
00:18:30,022 --> 00:18:34,822
I felt, I wouldn't say I felt like I was,
it wasn't about other people necessarily.

374
00:18:34,822 --> 00:18:37,352
Like I felt like everybody had supported
me.

375
00:18:37,352 --> 00:18:41,362
It continues to support me and like all,
you know, communicate and everything.

376
00:18:41,362 --> 00:18:43,252
It was more about my mentality.

377
00:18:43,252 --> 00:18:49,922
And I told Erin, I was like, I don't, I'm
so happy you weren't with me because I not

378
00:18:49,922 --> 00:18:55,862
only needed that minute to like absorb, I
feel like if he was with me, I would have

379
00:18:55,862 --> 00:18:58,776
started speaking negatively and, or,

380
00:18:58,776 --> 00:19:03,986
or speaking not like, not, I don't know
how to explain.

381
00:19:03,986 --> 00:19:06,336
I just want to be speaking well,
basically.

382
00:19:06,336 --> 00:19:10,496
And that would have gotten into my head
instead of, like you said, taking a minute

383
00:19:10,496 --> 00:19:14,096
to be like, this is so much more than just
this moment.

384
00:19:14,096 --> 00:19:18,676
This is such a learning moment because
like, how many Olympians do you know that

385
00:19:18,676 --> 00:19:23,266
have like placed last or have gotten just,
you know, worked over a show?

386
00:19:23,266 --> 00:19:24,576
All of them.

387
00:19:24,918 --> 00:19:29,978
Like all of them at some point in time,
like your competing career, you take

388
00:19:29,978 --> 00:19:31,058
losses.

389
00:19:31,138 --> 00:19:34,938
But the thing with the, so, and this is
kind of was my turning point was like, I

390
00:19:34,938 --> 00:19:38,878
did the little photo shoot in the hotel
room, super fun, put that out there, you

391
00:19:38,878 --> 00:19:44,318
know, communicated with everybody, let
them know what was going on, took my nap.

392
00:19:44,318 --> 00:19:51,518
I went back to finals and, and at finals,
like again, finals was like, okay.

393
00:19:51,518 --> 00:19:54,098
So I had finals, I got there early.

394
00:19:54,614 --> 00:19:58,774
And I had walked, the pros now were going
on before us.

395
00:19:58,774 --> 00:20:00,424
So they were everywhere.

396
00:20:00,424 --> 00:20:01,634
And so were their coaches.

397
00:20:01,634 --> 00:20:05,434
So like, I got to see all the coaches that
are like the big name coaches out there.

398
00:20:05,434 --> 00:20:07,264
And they were all being really cool and
really sweet.

399
00:20:07,264 --> 00:20:11,594
But I got to meet like the girls that I
talked to on Instagram, like to be able to

400
00:20:11,594 --> 00:20:15,534
run into Allie, like, and be like, hey, I
just talked to you like the other day on

401
00:20:15,534 --> 00:20:15,964
Instagram.

402
00:20:15,964 --> 00:20:18,454
And then we took pictures together.

403
00:20:18,454 --> 00:20:19,836
And then.

404
00:20:20,034 --> 00:20:22,146
which was so amazing.

405
00:20:22,146 --> 00:20:26,766
qualification, to be able to sit front,
like front and center and like watch that

406
00:20:26,766 --> 00:20:28,965
entire, so.

407
00:20:29,334 --> 00:20:35,754
At the show, I had the chance to sit front
and watch the whole pro bikini show.

408
00:20:35,754 --> 00:20:40,394
And so I sat there and watched all of
their wins and their placings.

409
00:20:40,394 --> 00:20:45,894
When you're in a room and you're
experiencing somebody get their Olympia

410
00:20:45,894 --> 00:20:48,594
qualification, it's unreal.

411
00:20:48,594 --> 00:20:56,754
Like the energy, the hard work, it's like
the whole room is just elated.

412
00:20:57,034 --> 00:20:57,788
So.

413
00:20:57,788 --> 00:21:03,828
Ali too because of how close she came last
year and like everyone loves her and she's

414
00:21:03,828 --> 00:21:07,188
just, she's beautiful and she's so sweet.

415
00:21:08,128 --> 00:21:08,570
Yeah.

416
00:21:08,570 --> 00:21:14,570
videos and we were like talking back and
forth and She was just if she was so sweet

417
00:21:14,570 --> 00:21:17,570
like it was Yeah, it was amazing.

418
00:21:17,570 --> 00:21:23,630
It was so cool but so to watch that to
take all that in and then I got so of

419
00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:31,170
course by default I got first in my 35
class first is still first and then I got

420
00:21:31,170 --> 00:21:33,778
third in my open class, so

421
00:21:34,134 --> 00:21:37,814
The second I got off stage though, I will
tell you, do you know what I did?

422
00:21:39,702 --> 00:21:41,078
immediately ran.

423
00:21:41,078 --> 00:21:43,718
to the judges table because bikini was
last.

424
00:21:43,718 --> 00:21:48,598
So I knew that I could get to Sandy and
get her feedback immediately.

425
00:21:48,598 --> 00:21:51,378
And like, I like grabbed all my stuff,
packed all my stuff.

426
00:21:51,378 --> 00:21:54,788
So my husband and my son and his friends,
they were waiting for me already.

427
00:21:54,788 --> 00:21:57,838
They were there and they watched finals
and cheered me on and all that stuff.

428
00:21:57,838 --> 00:22:02,418
So I ran to Sandy and I got my feedback
and she wanted me to come in, you know,

429
00:22:02,418 --> 00:22:03,408
tighter glutes.

430
00:22:03,408 --> 00:22:07,238
I needed more development in my shoulders
and my ab control.

431
00:22:07,238 --> 00:22:09,848
And so it's like, okay, let's take that.

432
00:22:09,848 --> 00:22:11,032
I immediately text my...

433
00:22:11,032 --> 00:22:16,052
coach like the exact words and I was like
this is you know the sport and this is

434
00:22:16,052 --> 00:22:24,108
what you do and and now you take this and
you grow and you get better so yeah.

435
00:22:24,108 --> 00:22:29,088
is one that she really wants you to come
to her right then and there because she's

436
00:22:29,088 --> 00:22:31,328
judging shows every single weekend.

437
00:22:31,328 --> 00:22:34,948
She has a hard time keeping up with all
the emails because you can email her for

438
00:22:34,948 --> 00:22:35,338
feedback.

439
00:22:35,338 --> 00:22:39,828
But if you lose that chance to talk to her
right then and there, she's going to be

440
00:22:39,828 --> 00:22:40,752
getting to it.

441
00:22:40,752 --> 00:22:45,452
you know, six, eight weeks later because
she's so busy and then she might not be

442
00:22:45,452 --> 00:22:49,422
able to give you exactly what you need to
hear or with enough time.

443
00:22:49,422 --> 00:22:51,592
Like you have other shows planned this
season.

444
00:22:51,592 --> 00:22:55,342
And so that feedback is kind of getting it
right then and there.

445
00:22:55,342 --> 00:22:59,292
But I will tell you, like I did a show in
Texas and waited around afterwards and

446
00:22:59,292 --> 00:23:01,332
they were kind of like, just email us and
they shoot us away.

447
00:23:01,332 --> 00:23:05,172
And I was like, dang, like I really wanted
that feedback right then and there because

448
00:23:05,172 --> 00:23:08,572
I had like, I think four weeks until
Nationals or whatever.

449
00:23:08,572 --> 00:23:10,896
But what?

450
00:23:11,050 --> 00:23:18,570
So I had met Laura Lee Friday afternoon at
the dress rehearsal and I actually was

451
00:23:18,570 --> 00:23:22,780
like in regular street clothes so was she
and like we like I met her, took photos,

452
00:23:22,780 --> 00:23:25,470
talked for a second like it was great.

453
00:23:25,782 --> 00:23:30,562
right before finals, like literally right
as I was lining up, she walked backstage,

454
00:23:30,562 --> 00:23:31,602
because she was handing out trophies.

455
00:23:31,602 --> 00:23:33,142
She was there all weekend helping.

456
00:23:33,142 --> 00:23:37,822
She walked backstage and she came up to me
because she remembered me from Friday, and

457
00:23:37,822 --> 00:23:39,862
now I was all dressed up and her and Aldo
were back there.

458
00:23:39,862 --> 00:23:43,392
And she's like, you look so happy on
stage.

459
00:23:43,392 --> 00:23:46,282
You look so excited.

460
00:23:46,282 --> 00:23:50,282
And she came up to me, remembered
everything, and just like to be able to be

461
00:23:50,282 --> 00:23:51,402
like, that's so cool.

462
00:23:51,402 --> 00:23:55,736
It's just being there, like you said,
meeting the people, and

463
00:23:55,736 --> 00:23:59,387
experiencing it and just taking all your
feedback.

464
00:23:59,387 --> 00:24:00,067
the placing.

465
00:24:00,067 --> 00:24:04,307
You just cannot just only go off of the
placing because look at all of the great

466
00:24:04,307 --> 00:24:08,667
experiences and you know the memories and
just you know being there and being a part

467
00:24:08,667 --> 00:24:14,427
of it like you're literally on stage for
like 45 seconds you know and then you and

468
00:24:14,427 --> 00:24:18,567
then it's over so fast so you have to like
take in the whole experience and and I'm

469
00:24:18,567 --> 00:24:23,087
so glad that you did those photos in your
hotel room because you looked fucking

470
00:24:23,087 --> 00:24:24,017
amazing.

471
00:24:24,017 --> 00:24:25,107
You got your

472
00:24:25,107 --> 00:24:30,807
Sudan bodies bangin kick ass tan beautiful
hair and makeup like you've got to

473
00:24:30,807 --> 00:24:34,947
celebrate it because I think it's so sad
when I've had in the past clients that

474
00:24:34,947 --> 00:24:41,147
I've prepped for shows and they've not
they've not worn a bikini in 10 years not

475
00:24:41,147 --> 00:24:42,267
even to the damn pool.

476
00:24:42,267 --> 00:24:42,677
Okay.

477
00:24:42,677 --> 00:24:46,767
And then they decide to do a competition
and they work their butt off and then they

478
00:24:46,767 --> 00:24:51,407
get up there and it's their first
competition and maybe they don't metal

479
00:24:51,407 --> 00:24:55,186
maybe they place six out of 10 or they get

480
00:24:55,186 --> 00:24:58,526
you know, fifth out of six or and they're
not happy with their placing.

481
00:24:58,526 --> 00:25:03,606
And then all that hard work and how
beautiful they look is like lost on a

482
00:25:03,606 --> 00:25:03,946
placing.

483
00:25:03,946 --> 00:25:05,866
And it's like, hold on a minute.

484
00:25:05,866 --> 00:25:11,066
Like you just worked your ass off and you
look the best you've ever looked.

485
00:25:11,066 --> 00:25:16,146
It can't be about the placing because, you
know, we've seen where somebody just takes

486
00:25:16,146 --> 00:25:19,386
a couple more weeks and then they go in
and they win a show and they were last

487
00:25:19,386 --> 00:25:20,216
place two weeks before.

488
00:25:20,216 --> 00:25:23,186
So it's like you're that's the game you're
playing.

489
00:25:23,186 --> 00:25:26,826
And you have to go into that feeling like
you've already won.

490
00:25:26,826 --> 00:25:28,086
You're so happy with your look.

491
00:25:28,086 --> 00:25:30,466
You've got to get the pictures like you
don't want to be like, oh, I didn't take

492
00:25:30,466 --> 00:25:33,916
any pictures because I was pissed I didn't
get moved into the center or something,

493
00:25:33,916 --> 00:25:35,106
you know?

494
00:25:35,406 --> 00:25:38,866
So but that's hard to do because you
really do.

495
00:25:38,866 --> 00:25:42,426
You get like you see yourself and you
think, oh, my God, I've never looked this

496
00:25:42,426 --> 00:25:42,766
good.

497
00:25:42,766 --> 00:25:43,921
Oh, my gosh, like.

498
00:25:43,921 --> 00:25:45,821
surely this is a first place physique.

499
00:25:45,821 --> 00:25:50,181
Like I've worked so hard and everybody
feels that way and you just don't know

500
00:25:50,181 --> 00:25:53,301
until you get up there and you're compared
to everybody else.

501
00:25:53,301 --> 00:25:55,306
And that is like how this sport works.

502
00:25:55,306 --> 00:25:58,886
you go to a show, like you show up at a
show and you can feel your best, look your

503
00:25:58,886 --> 00:26:02,066
best, and you want to win, you want to win
more than anything.

504
00:26:02,066 --> 00:26:03,256
Of course you want that overall.

505
00:26:03,256 --> 00:26:07,066
But at the same time, if somebody, if like
the girls there that show up and they're

506
00:26:07,066 --> 00:26:10,726
better conditioned than you, they have
better physique than you, they're better

507
00:26:10,726 --> 00:26:13,366
posing than you, it is what it is.

508
00:26:13,366 --> 00:26:16,796
Like you have to go back to the drawing
board and you have to get better.

509
00:26:16,796 --> 00:26:19,866
You have to keep training, keep growing,
keep practicing posing, whatever the

510
00:26:19,866 --> 00:26:22,586
feedback is, you know, and you just have
to take that.

511
00:26:22,586 --> 00:26:23,752
That's kind of the part of the sport.

512
00:26:23,752 --> 00:26:28,054
And it was interesting because so when the
show got done, I...

513
00:26:28,054 --> 00:26:32,954
Like we were, I will say usually I do not
go out after shows, but because the show

514
00:26:32,954 --> 00:26:38,754
got done relatively early and my makeup
still looked amazing even after 4 a .m.

515
00:26:38,754 --> 00:26:39,734
That was nuts.

516
00:26:39,734 --> 00:26:41,034
I didn't even have to touch it up.

517
00:26:41,034 --> 00:26:45,454
I like washed off the tan and just put on
like a cute crop top and like a pin skirt

518
00:26:45,454 --> 00:26:49,694
and then Aaron and I went out to dinner
and he needed a break from the kids.

519
00:26:49,694 --> 00:26:51,594
He was with the kids all day.

520
00:26:51,594 --> 00:26:57,854
So yeah, we went out to dinner, a great
dinner, like a nice like steak house, but.

521
00:26:57,910 --> 00:27:01,750
I told him, I was like, you know, I've
gone to shows and I've won my class and

522
00:27:01,750 --> 00:27:06,330
I've gotten second in big shows and this
is one of those shows where it just, it

523
00:27:06,330 --> 00:27:08,580
wasn't like my physique wasn't there.

524
00:27:08,580 --> 00:27:12,450
Like there were girls that showed up that
are better than me and now what I do is I

525
00:27:12,450 --> 00:27:16,670
just like, I absorb it and I take the
feedback and I work with my coach and you

526
00:27:16,670 --> 00:27:20,530
know, I just keep growing in the sport and
that's like what you can do.

527
00:27:20,555 --> 00:27:21,225
exactly.

528
00:27:21,225 --> 00:27:26,875
And I feel like you're in an interesting
position now because typically when you

529
00:27:26,875 --> 00:27:31,235
get feedback, you're going to hear you
need to grow or you're going to hear you

530
00:27:31,235 --> 00:27:34,005
need to get leaner or you need to get
leaner and grow, right?

531
00:27:34,005 --> 00:27:37,018
Like there's a bunch of different things
you can kind of hear.

532
00:27:37,018 --> 00:27:41,958
I were very interested that I like the
feedback I got was to have tighter glutes.

533
00:27:41,958 --> 00:27:43,903
So yeah.

534
00:27:43,903 --> 00:27:46,443
need to grow your shoulders and you need
to grow your glutes.

535
00:27:46,443 --> 00:27:49,983
Like, I feel like that was the kind of
feedback that's like, you know, this is

536
00:27:49,983 --> 00:27:55,823
something that you can work on in a short,
like it's a short term goal versus like a

537
00:27:55,823 --> 00:28:01,083
long term because sometimes the feedback
is like you need to, you know, grow your

538
00:28:01,083 --> 00:28:06,723
lats or, you know, I remember actually in
2018, I think my feedback was I had to

539
00:28:06,723 --> 00:28:08,223
grow into my boobs.

540
00:28:09,046 --> 00:28:13,994
That's some solid feedback.

541
00:28:13,994 --> 00:28:14,204
what?

542
00:28:14,204 --> 00:28:15,344
I didn't hear it again.

543
00:28:15,344 --> 00:28:19,334
So I guess I grew into my boobs, but, um,
yeah, that was literally my feedback.

544
00:28:19,334 --> 00:28:22,834
Um, so obviously if you hear something
like that, it's like, well, you're not

545
00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:26,583
going to be able to grow muscle, um, that
quickly.

546
00:28:26,583 --> 00:28:28,454
You need to take a good building season.

547
00:28:28,454 --> 00:28:28,674
Right.

548
00:28:28,674 --> 00:28:33,414
So now with the feedback that you've
gotten, and I feel like I've been pressing

549
00:28:33,414 --> 00:28:35,561
you for an answer now for like,

550
00:28:36,083 --> 00:28:41,103
three days, because I'm dying to know what
are your next steps and what are you going

551
00:28:41,103 --> 00:28:41,930
to?

552
00:28:42,222 --> 00:28:44,142
I'll know this week.

553
00:28:44,462 --> 00:28:47,352
Girl, I woke up at 2 -3 this morning and
flew home.

554
00:28:47,352 --> 00:28:48,787
I just got home.

555
00:28:48,787 --> 00:28:53,447
I just think you kind of, I feel like
everybody kind of knows in their heart of

556
00:28:53,447 --> 00:28:56,826
hearts, like if their season's done or
whatnot.

557
00:28:56,826 --> 00:29:01,986
it's just a toss up, honestly, because I
would still like to train and see if I can

558
00:29:01,986 --> 00:29:05,106
do Masters Universe, because I did qualify
for Masters.

559
00:29:06,422 --> 00:29:12,902
I would also still like to keep touching
the stage this year just to get my

560
00:29:12,902 --> 00:29:16,762
abdominal control and fluidity with posing
better.

561
00:29:16,762 --> 00:29:21,442
No matter how many times you practice that
at your own house, in your posing room, at

562
00:29:21,442 --> 00:29:25,262
your gym, you're never gonna get the
experience as you would on stage.

563
00:29:25,302 --> 00:29:25,590
So.

564
00:29:25,590 --> 00:29:26,194
yeah.

565
00:29:26,194 --> 00:29:27,454
have those kinds of things.

566
00:29:27,454 --> 00:29:31,694
I'm still like, my coach and I are still
kind of talking about it, but like she's

567
00:29:31,694 --> 00:29:32,684
open to the summer.

568
00:29:32,684 --> 00:29:38,494
So like what I want to do this summer here
in like, you know, July or further,

569
00:29:38,494 --> 00:29:39,754
absolutely.

570
00:29:39,874 --> 00:29:43,350
So, but, and I will say like as soon as...

571
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:48,750
When I got off stage and Erin and I went
out to eat like always Every again

572
00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:51,150
everybody's gonna be kind of different But
I would always kind of just try to be

573
00:29:51,150 --> 00:29:55,330
responsible with your reverse diet like I
immediately got my reverse diet I

574
00:29:55,330 --> 00:30:01,010
communicated how I was gonna eat I still
like prepped my food when I was At the

575
00:30:01,010 --> 00:30:05,650
condo I still had like my chicken and
veggies egg whites and veggies and then I

576
00:30:05,650 --> 00:30:09,650
spread out my food through the day like I
knew I was gonna eat dinner so I knew I

577
00:30:09,650 --> 00:30:13,496
was gonna have this or that I always try
to keep walking around because

578
00:30:13,496 --> 00:30:18,996
body's so sensitive and you don't want to
have like feel like shit so I just was

579
00:30:18,996 --> 00:30:20,867
kind of mindful of that.

580
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,280
Like, I think it's important to think
about what you're going to eat the day

581
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:24,840
after the show.

582
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,560
Like, if you do travel, make sure you've
taken food for Sunday, you know, the day

583
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,490
you travel home.

584
00:30:30,490 --> 00:30:33,900
And like, I think protein is what's like
really important.

585
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:38,020
Like having, you know, that on hand and
keeping on top of your supplements,

586
00:30:38,020 --> 00:30:42,780
because you just don't want to have like,
you know, you can feel really sick.

587
00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:44,080
And that's that sucks.

588
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,946
You know, if you're it's a day after the
show and.

589
00:30:46,946 --> 00:30:51,706
horrible feeling because like it's not a
normal sick like you feel like you just

590
00:30:51,706 --> 00:30:55,786
have this bowling ball in your belly and
you're stuck like you're literally just

591
00:30:55,786 --> 00:30:58,796
stuck until it figures out and it's
horrible.

592
00:30:58,796 --> 00:31:04,996
too, because like I've had some show days
where I my whole day was just like weird

593
00:31:04,996 --> 00:31:07,956
stuff, like stuff I would eat all the
time.

594
00:31:07,956 --> 00:31:10,396
But like, I don't usually eat veggies on
show day.

595
00:31:10,396 --> 00:31:13,006
I don't usually have my typical breakfast.

596
00:31:13,006 --> 00:31:15,076
I eat really light on show day.

597
00:31:15,076 --> 00:31:19,976
And, you know, I might have had, you know,
eight rice cakes, but I didn't actually

598
00:31:19,976 --> 00:31:20,716
have a meal.

599
00:31:20,716 --> 00:31:22,766
And then like the show got done.

600
00:31:22,766 --> 00:31:25,108
And then I went and had like.

601
00:31:25,108 --> 00:31:28,788
you know, a glass of wine and some fries
or like, you know, it's just a weird day

602
00:31:28,788 --> 00:31:29,388
of food.

603
00:31:29,388 --> 00:31:32,598
So sometimes like I feel pressured like
the Sunday afterwards.

604
00:31:32,598 --> 00:31:36,188
I'm like, I kind of just want to eat like
healthy food and like have veggies and

605
00:31:36,188 --> 00:31:39,798
stuff because I just don't feel great, you
know.

606
00:31:39,798 --> 00:31:44,218
like Sunday or Saturday when the show got
out and the boys because it was so early

607
00:31:44,218 --> 00:31:46,838
the boys were like What do you want to do?

608
00:31:46,838 --> 00:31:49,938
And I'm like, I'm not even hungry like I
wasn't even hungry.

609
00:31:49,938 --> 00:31:54,878
I was just like I literally just had like
Food before I went on stage, which was

610
00:31:54,878 --> 00:31:57,998
like you said rice cakes and some honey or
something I'm like, I was like, let's just

611
00:31:57,998 --> 00:31:59,058
go back to the condo.

612
00:31:59,058 --> 00:32:04,538
Let's like refresh like I don't know I
know I know it's best to eat steak or some

613
00:32:04,538 --> 00:32:08,698
like very good amount of like healthy
protein and stuff after so like Erin did a

614
00:32:08,698 --> 00:32:09,318
really great job.

615
00:32:09,318 --> 00:32:10,225
We had this

616
00:32:10,324 --> 00:32:12,204
steak restaurant we went to.

617
00:32:12,204 --> 00:32:17,064
But like you said, it's like, I think now
that I've done it so many times that it's

618
00:32:17,064 --> 00:32:21,704
like, I don't feel the pressure anymore,
but man, some of these girlies backstage,

619
00:32:21,704 --> 00:32:25,344
they are counting down hours for they can
eat that deep dish pizza.

620
00:32:25,344 --> 00:32:29,604
And I'm like, mm -mm, you're gonna hurt,
it's gonna hurt.

621
00:32:29,624 --> 00:32:30,674
So, but it is what it is.

622
00:32:30,674 --> 00:32:32,661
Everybody kind of goes through it, you
know?

623
00:32:32,661 --> 00:32:36,421
Yeah, I think that's something I just kind
of like grew out of.

624
00:32:36,641 --> 00:32:40,721
Like, and I think that's also like this
prep to like I'm in my 40s now.

625
00:32:40,721 --> 00:32:44,221
I've been competing a long time and my
whole attitude about food is totally

626
00:32:44,221 --> 00:32:44,511
different.

627
00:32:44,511 --> 00:32:48,161
But like when I first started competing,
like I would have a suitcase and it would

628
00:32:48,161 --> 00:32:48,981
have all my stuff in it.

629
00:32:48,981 --> 00:32:50,891
There'd be tons of treats and stuff.

630
00:32:50,891 --> 00:32:52,681
I don't even buy anything.

631
00:32:52,681 --> 00:32:53,871
I don't buy anything anymore.

632
00:32:53,871 --> 00:32:55,661
Like I just don't think about it.

633
00:32:55,661 --> 00:32:57,441
And it's not that I don't enjoy those
things.

634
00:32:57,441 --> 00:33:00,541
Like I'm not like a robot, but like I just
don't I don't think about it.

635
00:33:00,541 --> 00:33:02,325
But man, you see people backstage with
like.

636
00:33:02,325 --> 00:33:06,725
They got a whole carton of donuts and
they've got tons that they baked and

637
00:33:06,725 --> 00:33:07,365
stuff.

638
00:33:07,365 --> 00:33:12,645
I'm like, oh my God, like, is there, are
we going into like some sort of like a

639
00:33:12,645 --> 00:33:16,825
famine and like we need to have enough
food to like, you know, last for a week?

640
00:33:16,825 --> 00:33:18,205
Like it's going to be okay.

641
00:33:18,205 --> 00:33:20,625
You're going to be able to get like pop
charts.

642
00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:21,014
I don't know.

643
00:33:21,014 --> 00:33:21,634
going anywhere.

644
00:33:21,634 --> 00:33:25,214
And that's the thing too, like, that's why
I want, like, I can't even imagine

645
00:33:25,214 --> 00:33:27,534
bringing food like that anymore.

646
00:33:27,534 --> 00:33:29,264
Like, it doesn't even, like, register.

647
00:33:29,264 --> 00:33:33,734
Because I'm like, if I ever really wanted
something, I could literally order it from

648
00:33:33,734 --> 00:33:34,574
my phone.

649
00:33:34,574 --> 00:33:35,954
Like, be real here.

650
00:33:35,954 --> 00:33:39,134
But, and also, like, I'm on vacation with
my family.

651
00:33:39,134 --> 00:33:41,984
Like, I wanna feel good, I wanna walk
around, I wanna spend time with them.

652
00:33:41,984 --> 00:33:46,154
So, like, I'm very, like, I'm very mindful
of, like, I know what agrees with my

653
00:33:46,154 --> 00:33:48,414
stomach and I know what doesn't agree with
my stomach.

654
00:33:48,414 --> 00:33:50,200
And so, I also,

655
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,350
know like I've been pretty depleted.

656
00:33:52,350 --> 00:33:56,480
So if I eat more carb friendly things than
more like dairy friendly things, it's

657
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,040
gonna go better for me.

658
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,820
So like, you know, I did like, I cooked
some of my own stuff and did I have

659
00:34:02,820 --> 00:34:03,060
treats?

660
00:34:03,060 --> 00:34:03,740
Absolutely.

661
00:34:03,740 --> 00:34:06,540
Like I ate a burger, I had sushi.

662
00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:10,300
I actually had bread pudding the other
night too, which was, I don't know, it

663
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:12,190
just, we were walking around and it looked
good.

664
00:34:12,190 --> 00:34:16,040
And so like, I did have treats here and
there, but it's all spread out and it's

665
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,988
all like in like a four, three, four day
time.

666
00:34:19,988 --> 00:34:23,046
stuffing yourself bites of things and
yeah.

667
00:34:23,046 --> 00:34:29,545
I always try to like walk around and this
was probably the first like time.

668
00:34:29,654 --> 00:34:35,414
I want to say the first time but like a
first time on vacation with a show that

669
00:34:35,414 --> 00:34:38,804
like I had no stomach problems I actually
felt fantastic.

670
00:34:38,804 --> 00:34:40,194
I was at the pool every day.

671
00:34:40,194 --> 00:34:44,714
My girlfriends came to visit me, which was
super cool That was very exciting So a few

672
00:34:44,714 --> 00:34:47,714
of my girlfriends moved to Florida last
year and they're in two different

673
00:34:47,714 --> 00:34:51,914
locations in Florida but they both came
and they like hung out with me at my

674
00:34:51,914 --> 00:34:56,574
resort and we were the poolside and so
that was super fun, but like It was just

675
00:34:56,574 --> 00:34:58,014
like wanting to do that.

676
00:34:58,014 --> 00:34:59,840
Like I don't want to feel like crap,
right?

677
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:04,540
like I ate normal food, my normal food,
right?

678
00:35:04,540 --> 00:35:09,420
Chicken, veggies, egg whites, veggies, you
know, protein shake, whatever.

679
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:12,996
But no, it just...

680
00:35:12,996 --> 00:35:15,136
it makes it too hard to get back on track.

681
00:35:15,136 --> 00:35:20,376
And, you know, if your shows are like
separated by like two to four weeks, you

682
00:35:20,376 --> 00:35:22,266
know, you got to get right back on the
diet on Monday.

683
00:35:22,266 --> 00:35:26,816
And so if you're like trying to metabolize
a bunch of like processed food and junk,

684
00:35:26,816 --> 00:35:31,836
it just makes like it makes that chicken
and egg whites look not as exciting, even

685
00:35:31,836 --> 00:35:33,476
though it's something that you really
enjoy eating.

686
00:35:33,476 --> 00:35:38,876
But there's just something slightly
addictive about those foods.

687
00:35:39,316 --> 00:35:41,846
you know, just processed foods and sugar.

688
00:35:41,846 --> 00:35:44,876
And it's like you have a little bit and
then you end up wanting more like that's

689
00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:49,296
kind of why when I'm in a prep, my cheat
meals are generally pretty clean because I

690
00:35:49,296 --> 00:35:50,976
don't want to crave all that stuff.

691
00:35:50,976 --> 00:35:54,416
And I feel like if I have a little bit,
then I just like turn into like a crack

692
00:35:54,416 --> 00:35:56,516
head and for like three days is like all I
can think about.

693
00:35:56,516 --> 00:35:58,416
So I just don't have any.

694
00:35:58,656 --> 00:35:59,898
You what?

695
00:35:59,898 --> 00:36:01,638
I plan my bad food.

696
00:36:01,638 --> 00:36:04,818
So this Saturday actually is my bad food
day.

697
00:36:04,818 --> 00:36:06,238
It's so funny.

698
00:36:06,658 --> 00:36:10,078
I've been planning it for like a couple,
yes.

699
00:36:11,558 --> 00:36:17,638
Yeah, so we're gonna go to the movie
theaters and my unhealthy, bingey thing to

700
00:36:17,638 --> 00:36:20,008
eat is movie theater popcorn with M &Ms.

701
00:36:20,008 --> 00:36:21,684
And so we're going to the movie theater
Saturday.

702
00:36:21,684 --> 00:36:24,718
the M &M's in the popcorn, but you don't,
you eat them separately.

703
00:36:24,718 --> 00:36:24,838
right.

704
00:36:24,838 --> 00:36:26,648
We did talk about this because I have it
aside it.

705
00:36:26,648 --> 00:36:30,558
I just eat them together, but like not
together together.

706
00:36:30,938 --> 00:36:33,136
So, but no, that's my.

707
00:36:33,136 --> 00:36:34,286
that I like, love.

708
00:36:34,286 --> 00:36:39,376
I think I mentioned I love the truffle
fries, but I also love these stupid ass

709
00:36:39,376 --> 00:36:41,316
Haribo berries.

710
00:36:42,096 --> 00:36:45,576
They're so, they're like, no, they're
berries.

711
00:36:45,576 --> 00:36:49,016
And the pack is like got, they're like
black and red.

712
00:36:49,016 --> 00:36:51,016
And they're like, they look like
raspberries.

713
00:36:51,016 --> 00:36:54,934
And so they're kind of crunchy, but
they're like a gummy on the inside.

714
00:36:54,934 --> 00:36:55,403
Hmm.

715
00:36:55,403 --> 00:36:55,693
love those.

716
00:36:55,693 --> 00:36:58,923
My husband knows he always gets me two
packs of those and stores them somewhere

717
00:36:58,923 --> 00:37:00,763
in the house for like after my show.

718
00:37:00,763 --> 00:37:03,112
And then I love a fat Kit Kat.

719
00:37:03,112 --> 00:37:06,863
It has to be the fat one, not like the
four bar.

720
00:37:06,863 --> 00:37:09,383
It's like one big, huge fat Kit Kat.

721
00:37:09,383 --> 00:37:12,283
And those are like after a show, that's
like really the only thing I think about

722
00:37:12,283 --> 00:37:12,683
having.

723
00:37:12,683 --> 00:37:15,503
And then I'm like, okay, it's out of my
system and I'm good.

724
00:37:15,503 --> 00:37:17,046
Now I can't stop thinking about it.

725
00:37:17,046 --> 00:37:19,526
I will say after the show, I didn't even
think about anything.

726
00:37:19,526 --> 00:37:21,676
There wasn't anything specific I was
craving.

727
00:37:21,676 --> 00:37:22,746
There wasn't.

728
00:37:22,746 --> 00:37:24,686
I kind of just went with the flow.

729
00:37:24,686 --> 00:37:25,786
Huh?

730
00:37:26,806 --> 00:37:27,788
Yeah.

731
00:37:27,788 --> 00:37:30,728
you know, you weren't like telling me
like, I am so starving, I want to eat my

732
00:37:30,728 --> 00:37:31,238
arm off.

733
00:37:31,238 --> 00:37:34,368
And that's generally like when somebody's
kind of saying those things.

734
00:37:34,368 --> 00:37:38,448
And like, we all have those days and we
have our moments where you do feel really,

735
00:37:38,448 --> 00:37:38,988
really hungry.

736
00:37:38,988 --> 00:37:43,888
But I think if that is like in the
forefront of your brain in the final weeks

737
00:37:43,888 --> 00:37:48,688
of your prep, then that off season, you
really need a lot of support from your

738
00:37:48,688 --> 00:37:51,572
coach, like in that immediate reverse
phase because.

739
00:37:51,572 --> 00:37:53,452
that can be like really hard.

740
00:37:53,452 --> 00:37:57,312
You know, if you've been watching Food
Network and thinking about all the things

741
00:37:57,312 --> 00:38:01,092
you want to eat after the show, like
you've got to be, you know, really, really

742
00:38:01,092 --> 00:38:06,112
work with your coach and you almost need
more guidance and support in that post

743
00:38:06,112 --> 00:38:10,952
-competition phase than you did in the
prep, really, if you can imagine, but it's

744
00:38:10,952 --> 00:38:11,442
important.

745
00:38:11,442 --> 00:38:14,942
to do it yourself because you're gonna
overthink something or you're gonna under

746
00:38:14,942 --> 00:38:18,242
think something and then it's gonna cause
you to overeat or it's gonna cause you to

747
00:38:18,242 --> 00:38:21,102
Undereat and it's gonna cause you to
question and it's gonna mentally be

748
00:38:21,102 --> 00:38:24,162
exhausting and you're just never gonna
feel like you're progressing and you're

749
00:38:24,162 --> 00:38:28,302
gonna question everything you do like
that's what I see a lot of people that try

750
00:38:28,302 --> 00:38:33,362
Try to train themselves and try to be an
offseason by themselves It's what it

751
00:38:33,362 --> 00:38:36,882
always seems to happen that when you're in
an offseason without any guidance at all

752
00:38:36,882 --> 00:38:40,708
You do I don't want to say binge eat, but
you just end up

753
00:38:40,708 --> 00:38:42,988
eating more than what you actually should.

754
00:38:43,068 --> 00:38:47,348
And then when you go into a prep, and I've
actually experienced with like guys and

755
00:38:47,348 --> 00:38:51,968
girls, I've seen this, when you do go into
a prep and you do go back to your prep

756
00:38:51,968 --> 00:38:57,308
coach, you don't even go back into a prep,
your prep coach has to basically take you

757
00:38:57,308 --> 00:39:02,068
as a weight loss client first and then you
can go into a prep because you did your

758
00:39:02,068 --> 00:39:06,448
off season, not in an off season, you just
ate like shit and weight lifted.

759
00:39:06,508 --> 00:39:08,548
So like there was no structure.

760
00:39:08,601 --> 00:39:12,521
poor self -reporting or not keeping track
of anything at all.

761
00:39:12,521 --> 00:39:14,721
And like, cause I'll hear people say like,
I make good choices.

762
00:39:14,721 --> 00:39:17,251
I'm like, how do you know how much protein
you're getting?

763
00:39:17,251 --> 00:39:19,751
Like, are you tracking your volume in the
gym?

764
00:39:19,751 --> 00:39:23,631
Like, I think, I think if you want to
really coach yourself in an off season,

765
00:39:23,631 --> 00:39:27,181
then you have to treat yourself like you,
like you got to check -ins with yourself.

766
00:39:27,181 --> 00:39:30,487
You got to be able to report exactly what
you ate.

767
00:39:31,858 --> 00:39:32,469
Mm -hmm.

768
00:39:32,469 --> 00:39:32,909
do that.

769
00:39:32,909 --> 00:39:36,269
Like, I mean, and I'm coach, I've been
coaching for like 15 years and I have a

770
00:39:36,269 --> 00:39:40,309
coach all year round because, um, I just,
it's that important to me.

771
00:39:40,309 --> 00:39:43,909
And I also just, I'm more accountable to
someone else than I am to myself.

772
00:39:43,909 --> 00:39:45,509
Do I know how to do it?

773
00:39:45,509 --> 00:39:46,309
Yeah.

774
00:39:46,309 --> 00:39:50,549
But it's so nice to have somebody that
just I'm checking in with and, but yeah,

775
00:39:50,549 --> 00:39:53,329
people just don't, they don't self -report
accurately.

776
00:39:53,329 --> 00:39:56,699
And you know, they just, okay, I think
I've put some muscle on.

777
00:39:56,699 --> 00:39:59,624
It's like, no, babe, I don't know that
that's all muscle.

778
00:39:59,790 --> 00:40:03,290
Oh, it's like, oh, I only ate this many
carbs on Monday and Tuesday, so I can go

779
00:40:03,290 --> 00:40:05,800
out Wednesday with my friends and eat this
many carbs.

780
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,450
It's like, how many carbs did you really?

781
00:40:08,450 --> 00:40:11,048
Yeah, like, you just don't know.

782
00:40:11,048 --> 00:40:14,348
to gain weight or they're like, oh, I'm
only up four pounds from stage weight.

783
00:40:14,348 --> 00:40:16,228
I'm like, why are we celebrating that?

784
00:40:16,228 --> 00:40:17,728
Well, don't celebrate that.

785
00:40:17,728 --> 00:40:20,558
Like, okay, good for you, but are you
miserable?

786
00:40:20,558 --> 00:40:21,448
Like, do you have balance?

787
00:40:21,448 --> 00:40:23,208
Like, are you doing tons of cardio?

788
00:40:23,208 --> 00:40:27,568
I don't want to prep somebody who's coming
in 16 weeks out doing 45 minutes of cardio

789
00:40:27,568 --> 00:40:29,768
a day, eating a hundred grams of carbs.

790
00:40:29,768 --> 00:40:31,408
Where are we going to go from there?

791
00:40:31,408 --> 00:40:31,848
Right?

792
00:40:31,848 --> 00:40:34,288
So I don't think that should be
celebrated.

793
00:40:34,288 --> 00:40:35,124
I think that.

794
00:40:35,124 --> 00:40:39,324
I'm not saying I'm not giving a number as
to what I think people should do, but I

795
00:40:39,324 --> 00:40:41,964
don't think that we should be like, oh,
yay.

796
00:40:41,964 --> 00:40:44,744
Like because I don't think that means
anything, first of all.

797
00:40:44,744 --> 00:40:48,784
But if you want to improve and you've
stayed, you know, within four pounds of

798
00:40:48,784 --> 00:40:52,444
your stage weight, like where you focus
more on staying skinny or were you

799
00:40:52,444 --> 00:40:54,214
focusing on lifting and trying to grow?

800
00:40:54,214 --> 00:40:56,144
You know, I just don't I don't know.

801
00:40:56,144 --> 00:40:57,082
It's my two cents.

802
00:40:57,082 --> 00:40:57,712
to your goals.

803
00:40:57,712 --> 00:41:00,722
Like, are you trying to grow in the sport
and try to become more competitive?

804
00:41:00,722 --> 00:41:03,602
Then you need to have that off season,
that build season.

805
00:41:03,602 --> 00:41:07,822
Do you need to go crazy and gain however X
amount of weight and like eat like an

806
00:41:07,822 --> 00:41:08,162
asshole?

807
00:41:08,162 --> 00:41:10,572
No, but there is absolutely structure to
it.

808
00:41:10,572 --> 00:41:15,342
That's like in my off season, I ate more
than I ever had before, but I had a coach

809
00:41:15,342 --> 00:41:21,502
that geared it to where I was, you know,
over 2000 plus calories and I was doing

810
00:41:21,502 --> 00:41:24,351
very low cardio and...

811
00:41:24,351 --> 00:41:27,391
though, like there was like a transition.

812
00:41:27,391 --> 00:41:27,986
Yeah.

813
00:41:27,986 --> 00:41:29,506
Because you did check -ins weekly.

814
00:41:29,506 --> 00:41:31,556
And then you had a coach that was
overseeing you.

815
00:41:31,556 --> 00:41:34,186
And then it's like, OK, this is what's
happening.

816
00:41:34,186 --> 00:41:37,492
So trying to do that yourself is tricky.

817
00:41:37,492 --> 00:41:40,872
And like, look, Instagram is not the
judge, okay?

818
00:41:40,872 --> 00:41:42,972
So like, oh wow, she looks great.

819
00:41:42,972 --> 00:41:45,392
She still has abs and she competed six
months ago.

820
00:41:45,392 --> 00:41:49,652
Okay, well, the people looking at
Instagram are not the same people that are

821
00:41:49,652 --> 00:41:50,632
gonna be judging you at the show.

822
00:41:50,632 --> 00:41:53,002
You have to think about what you really
wanna do.

823
00:41:53,002 --> 00:41:57,472
If you wanna look great for Instagram,
that's fine, but it does not equate to a

824
00:41:57,472 --> 00:41:58,472
placing in the show.

825
00:41:58,472 --> 00:42:02,196
You have to sort of separate yourself and
go, okay, I might not be comfortable.

826
00:42:02,196 --> 00:42:06,626
doing fitness photos for a little while
while I focus on growing my glutes.

827
00:42:06,626 --> 00:42:07,846
I mean, I had to do it this winter.

828
00:42:07,846 --> 00:42:12,196
I was like, you know, I was covered up
like because I and still that I was

829
00:42:12,196 --> 00:42:12,636
uncomfortable.

830
00:42:12,636 --> 00:42:14,396
I was like, this isn't what people expect.

831
00:42:14,396 --> 00:42:19,156
People don't expect for me to have rolls
on my back and, you know, cellulite and

832
00:42:19,156 --> 00:42:19,516
all this stuff.

833
00:42:19,516 --> 00:42:23,996
You know, I'm showing up on Instagram as a
competitor and a coach and whatnot.

834
00:42:23,996 --> 00:42:25,356
I know what I'm doing.

835
00:42:25,356 --> 00:42:27,406
Like, I don't feel like I'm out of
control.

836
00:42:27,406 --> 00:42:28,586
This is all intentional.

837
00:42:28,586 --> 00:42:30,946
It's very deliberate and it feels very
controlled.

838
00:42:30,946 --> 00:42:31,605
I'm not like.

839
00:42:31,605 --> 00:42:34,505
oops, I lost track of my ways and I've
gained all this weight.

840
00:42:34,505 --> 00:42:38,585
But just for my own comfort, I sort of
just, you know, stayed a little covered

841
00:42:38,585 --> 00:42:39,095
up.

842
00:42:39,095 --> 00:42:41,455
But people don't see that.

843
00:42:41,455 --> 00:42:43,035
They're just like, oh, you had abs all
along.

844
00:42:43,035 --> 00:42:46,935
I'm like, no, you just didn't see me when
I was like 17 pounds heavier.

845
00:42:46,935 --> 00:42:50,865
But that's what I had to do in order to
put on size and and grow.

846
00:42:50,865 --> 00:42:52,845
And, you know, and that's just different
for everybody.

847
00:42:52,845 --> 00:42:56,150
But I don't know, that's just probably too
much.

848
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:58,646
husband the other day about...

849
00:42:58,646 --> 00:43:01,686
actually it was today, it was this
morning, oh my god it's already been a

850
00:43:01,686 --> 00:43:02,626
long day.

851
00:43:02,626 --> 00:43:07,016
But about people that are just genetically
different.

852
00:43:07,016 --> 00:43:11,326
As we get older, I remember like you were
saying, you see people on Instagram where

853
00:43:11,326 --> 00:43:14,946
you're like, I want to eat like that, I
want to look like that, I want to be like

854
00:43:14,946 --> 00:43:15,346
that.

855
00:43:15,346 --> 00:43:18,336
And there was this girl that I was like
that with.

856
00:43:18,336 --> 00:43:23,186
I was like, she's so pretty, she's always
so fit, and she always gets to go out and

857
00:43:23,186 --> 00:43:26,306
have a good time, and I want to do that
too, right?

858
00:43:26,306 --> 00:43:28,712
And she was a competitor, this was

859
00:43:28,712 --> 00:43:31,472
a lot like she competed a long time ago,
but.

860
00:43:31,574 --> 00:43:38,254
I would be like, how can she go out and
drink on weekends and eat and go do all

861
00:43:38,254 --> 00:43:40,934
this stuff and then hop on stage in six
weeks?

862
00:43:41,254 --> 00:43:42,574
And she would say that.

863
00:43:42,574 --> 00:43:45,354
She's like, oh, I just prep myself and it
takes me like 12 weeks.

864
00:43:45,354 --> 00:43:48,834
Granted, this was a couple years ago, so
it's not like this day and age of muscular

865
00:43:48,834 --> 00:43:49,854
density.

866
00:43:49,854 --> 00:43:54,124
But it was just like, I would look at that
and be like, why can't I do that?

867
00:43:54,124 --> 00:43:55,794
And I would try to do that.

868
00:43:55,794 --> 00:43:57,214
I would work out.

869
00:43:57,214 --> 00:43:59,294
This is back when I would still drink
alcohol.

870
00:43:59,294 --> 00:44:02,028
And I would drink and I would do.

871
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:06,040
like she was doing my body was like no
Mandy?

872
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:11,320
No that doesn't work for you And it would
not and it's just you have to embrace that

873
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:17,000
everybody's body is different everybody's
genetic makeup is different and like What

874
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,760
you do and you eat is not going to be the
same as what your best friend has to do or

875
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,400
has to eat and your progress is always
going to be different than everybody

876
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,774
else's and You can't do what people do on
Instagram because you never know

877
00:44:29,774 --> 00:44:30,894
are lying.

878
00:44:30,894 --> 00:44:35,314
So, or they're not telling you like
everything.

879
00:44:35,314 --> 00:44:35,674
Yeah.

880
00:44:35,674 --> 00:44:38,714
You don't know that they're doing other
things.

881
00:44:38,714 --> 00:44:39,764
You know, you just don't know.

882
00:44:39,764 --> 00:44:41,744
So yeah, that can, that can be tough.

883
00:44:41,744 --> 00:44:45,073
I feel like you get to that place where
you understand like, ah, you know, half of

884
00:44:45,073 --> 00:44:46,994
what I'm reading is, is BS anyways.

885
00:44:46,994 --> 00:44:51,314
But yeah, certainly like even just in the
early days when I would, you know, be

886
00:44:51,314 --> 00:44:55,434
doing tons of cardio and I would be, you
know, see people like flexible dieting and

887
00:44:55,434 --> 00:44:56,502
doing like,

888
00:44:56,502 --> 00:44:57,812
10 minutes of cardio a day.

889
00:44:57,812 --> 00:44:59,432
I was like, Oh, it's such a fat ass.

890
00:44:59,432 --> 00:45:00,752
How could we have to do so much cardio?

891
00:45:00,752 --> 00:45:02,782
But you know, everybody's everybody's
different.

892
00:45:02,782 --> 00:45:06,622
And when you get to the higher level, you
realize like, yeah, all the pros are doing

893
00:45:06,622 --> 00:45:10,182
a lot of cardio, you know, like it's very
rare that someone isn't doing much.

894
00:45:10,182 --> 00:45:13,322
But you also have to look at, OK, well,
have they already done six shows this

895
00:45:13,322 --> 00:45:13,602
season?

896
00:45:13,602 --> 00:45:18,042
And, you know, they're just trying to, you
know, get one more show in or, you know,

897
00:45:18,042 --> 00:45:18,652
you don't know.

898
00:45:18,652 --> 00:45:19,312
Everybody's different.

899
00:45:19,312 --> 00:45:20,452
Your body can change, too.

900
00:45:20,452 --> 00:45:24,922
So, yeah, it's it's yeah, it can be crazy.

901
00:45:24,922 --> 00:45:25,549
But.

902
00:45:25,602 --> 00:45:27,722
But it was a great show weekend.

903
00:45:27,722 --> 00:45:29,238
Like it was.

904
00:45:29,238 --> 00:45:30,368
You looked amazing.

905
00:45:30,368 --> 00:45:34,718
And I'm so excited to kind of talk to you
over these next couple of weeks and see

906
00:45:34,718 --> 00:45:36,668
where your heart is.

907
00:45:36,668 --> 00:45:38,582
OK.

908
00:45:38,582 --> 00:45:42,542
my strategy of the rest of this year or my
next show at least.

909
00:45:42,542 --> 00:45:45,722
But it was like this show weekend was
absolutely fantastic.

910
00:45:45,722 --> 00:45:49,182
Like meeting everybody, getting the
feedback, getting back on stage, getting,

911
00:45:49,182 --> 00:45:51,192
I like getting hair and makeup done.

912
00:45:51,192 --> 00:45:52,202
It's always fun.

913
00:45:52,202 --> 00:45:57,782
I loved all like Erin did such a great job
with like the kids and he surprised me

914
00:45:57,782 --> 00:46:02,402
with a necklace and it was super cute and
flowers and dinners and balloons.

915
00:46:02,402 --> 00:46:03,772
I didn't even send you a picture of that.

916
00:46:03,772 --> 00:46:04,876
There was balloons.

917
00:46:05,908 --> 00:46:12,268
know it was dark whenever we got back and
so he had these balloons in the condo when

918
00:46:12,268 --> 00:46:16,888
we got back and was like congratulations
is super cute so just and then spending

919
00:46:16,888 --> 00:46:21,748
time with him and massages and seeing my
friends and it just it was like an

920
00:46:21,748 --> 00:46:26,326
absolutely like incredible show weekend
vacation and

921
00:46:26,326 --> 00:46:26,886
awesome.

922
00:46:26,886 --> 00:46:27,626
Well, good.

923
00:46:27,626 --> 00:46:29,386
Well, you did amazing.

924
00:46:29,386 --> 00:46:31,036
You represented very well.

925
00:46:31,036 --> 00:46:32,646
You looked stunning.

926
00:46:32,646 --> 00:46:36,946
And I'm excited to continue on the season
with you.

927
00:46:36,946 --> 00:46:40,106
And hopefully we'll have show day
together.

928
00:46:40,346 --> 00:46:41,486
Can't wait.

929
00:46:41,486 --> 00:46:43,111
Yeah, that'll be fun.

930
00:46:43,278 --> 00:46:46,271
the dream, right?

931
00:46:46,271 --> 00:46:47,871
yeah, for sure.

932
00:46:47,951 --> 00:46:49,520
So awesome.

933
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,331
Well, thank you everybody for tuning in
today.

934
00:46:52,331 --> 00:46:57,651
We are always happy to share all of our
ramblings with all of you.

935
00:46:57,651 --> 00:47:03,391
And as always, don't forget to like and
subscribe and leave us a comment.

936
00:47:03,391 --> 00:47:04,711
Let us know what you thought of this
episode.

937
00:47:04,711 --> 00:47:07,991
And we're always looking for things that
you guys want us to talk about.

938
00:47:07,991 --> 00:47:12,171
So if you've got some suggestions or
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939
00:47:12,171 --> 00:47:14,371
comments wherever you're listening to us.

940
00:47:14,371 --> 00:47:14,646
And.

941
00:47:14,646 --> 00:47:15,798
Thanks for tuning in.

942
00:47:15,798 --> 00:47:20,618
any questions about more of like my show,
more of like how that went, you can always

943
00:47:20,618 --> 00:47:23,878
feel free, again, leave messages in the
comments or you can DM me as well.

944
00:47:23,878 --> 00:47:28,438
I am an open book and will answer anything
about how it went, any questions at all.

945
00:47:28,438 --> 00:47:33,198
But thank you guys so much for listening
and we will talk to you next week.

946
00:47:33,598 --> 00:47:34,978
Bye.