1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,760 Carol Cox: We're taking you behind the scenes of the 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:04,080 recent Ted style talks we've delivered, 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,280 and what we surprisingly learn about 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,920 ourselves as speakers on this episode of the 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaking Your Brand podcast. 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,080 More and more women are making an impact by 7 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:20,560 starting businesses, running for office, 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,720 and speaking up for what matters. 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,800 With my background as a TV political analyst, 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,400 entrepreneur, and speaker, 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,360 I interview and coach purpose driven women to 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,960 shape their brands, grow their companies, 13 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,800 and become recognized as influencers in their 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,960 field. This is speaking your brand, 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,400 your place to learn how to persuasively 16 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,640 communicate your message to your audience. 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,160 Hi there and welcome to the Speaking Your 18 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:48,640 Brand podcast. I'm your host, 19 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,160 Carol Cox, joined by Diane Diaz, 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,520 our lead speaking coach and personal brand 21 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:54,840 strategist. Hi, Diane. 22 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,840 Hi, Carol. It is great to have you here 23 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,280 because today we're going to talk about the 24 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,000 Ted style talks that we recently created and 25 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,400 delivered. It was a lot of fun because it's 26 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,920 always a challenge to put together an eight 27 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,080 minute talk, because you feel like it's not a 28 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,320 lot of time to get a message out, 29 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,640 which is not. But then when you have to that 30 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:19,880 really memorize it. But we'll talk about how 31 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,760 we didn't memorize, but what we did instead, 32 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,440 because we wanted to make sure we adhere to 33 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:24,960 that eight minute time. But then when you 34 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:26,560 have to start practicing it, you start 35 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,920 realizing that eight minutes is actually 36 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,320 longer than you think. Absolutely. 37 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,640 Okay. So this was for an event called LX. 38 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,920 It's put on by a group called the L 39 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,400 collective that supports women entrepreneurs, 40 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,040 is through one of our local colleges here in 41 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,880 the Central Florida area where Diane and I 42 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,000 live. And we Diane, actually, 43 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,080 you originally found out about this event on 44 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,840 LinkedIn because the woman who runs the group 45 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,160 had posted about it. 46 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:53,880 So can you tell us a little bit about what 47 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,280 intrigued you about it and why we why we 48 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,640 decided to apply and then what that 49 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,290 application process was like. 50 00:01:59,930 --> 00:02:01,450 Diane Diaz: Yes. Yeah. You're right. I heard about it on 51 00:02:01,450 --> 00:02:03,810 LinkedIn or saw it on LinkedIn. And I had 52 00:02:03,810 --> 00:02:07,010 been sort of loosely following L collective 53 00:02:07,010 --> 00:02:08,970 for a while, but their events and things like 54 00:02:08,970 --> 00:02:10,410 never lined up with my calendar. 55 00:02:10,730 --> 00:02:12,930 And then I just happened to jump on LinkedIn 56 00:02:12,930 --> 00:02:15,210 to just, you know, look through my newsfeed. 57 00:02:15,210 --> 00:02:17,010 And there it was. And I was like, oh, this 58 00:02:17,010 --> 00:02:18,850 looks like something we would want to do. 59 00:02:19,010 --> 00:02:20,730 So I immediately sent it to you and said we 60 00:02:20,730 --> 00:02:21,930 should apply for this. 61 00:02:22,170 --> 00:02:23,610 And we did. 62 00:02:23,610 --> 00:02:25,970 The application process was interesting. 63 00:02:26,090 --> 00:02:30,730 We applied and then had to kind of give the 64 00:02:30,730 --> 00:02:32,130 concept for the talk. 65 00:02:33,370 --> 00:02:35,210 Then once we did that, 66 00:02:35,450 --> 00:02:36,650 we got notified. 67 00:02:36,650 --> 00:02:38,610 Both of us got notified that they wanted us 68 00:02:38,610 --> 00:02:42,130 to audition, which I had never auditioned for 69 00:02:42,130 --> 00:02:43,730 a talk before. 70 00:02:43,730 --> 00:02:45,090 I've never auditioned for anything, but 71 00:02:45,090 --> 00:02:46,370 definitely not for a talk. 72 00:02:46,730 --> 00:02:50,330 So that was new. But the audition was our 73 00:02:50,330 --> 00:02:53,610 talk, so we found out one week that we got 74 00:02:53,650 --> 00:02:55,090 chosen for the audition, and the audition was 75 00:02:55,090 --> 00:02:56,250 the following week. 76 00:02:56,370 --> 00:02:59,130 So we literally had one week to put together 77 00:02:59,130 --> 00:03:02,850 the entire talk, know it enough to audition 78 00:03:02,850 --> 00:03:04,490 in front of a group. I think there was 79 00:03:04,490 --> 00:03:06,850 probably like 5 or 6 women that we auditioned 80 00:03:06,850 --> 00:03:08,810 in front of the group running this event, 81 00:03:09,250 --> 00:03:13,090 and we individually auditioned on the same 82 00:03:13,090 --> 00:03:14,850 day, actually one right after the other, 83 00:03:14,850 --> 00:03:18,890 and then from that, they then reached out to 84 00:03:18,890 --> 00:03:20,130 us to let us know that we, 85 00:03:20,170 --> 00:03:22,690 both of us, were chosen to be part of this 86 00:03:22,730 --> 00:03:26,210 inaugural group delivering their LL talks on 87 00:03:26,210 --> 00:03:30,050 the stage. So it was it was very different 88 00:03:30,050 --> 00:03:32,930 than what you and I normally do for speaking, 89 00:03:32,930 --> 00:03:35,130 which was fine, but it was it was a new 90 00:03:35,130 --> 00:03:36,450 experience for both of us. 91 00:03:36,810 --> 00:03:39,050 Carol Cox: Yes. And as we get into this conversation 92 00:03:39,050 --> 00:03:40,690 today, I actually want to talk a little bit 93 00:03:40,690 --> 00:03:42,890 about these different types of speaking 94 00:03:42,890 --> 00:03:44,610 engagements that there are and, 95 00:03:44,650 --> 00:03:47,290 and how I liken it to being an athlete or a 96 00:03:47,290 --> 00:03:49,130 musician. And we'll get to that. 97 00:03:49,250 --> 00:03:51,330 So remind me as, as we get more into the 98 00:03:51,330 --> 00:03:53,850 conversation. But yeah, so we put together 99 00:03:53,850 --> 00:03:55,690 our application and we. 100 00:03:55,810 --> 00:03:58,010 The theme for the event was about 101 00:03:58,010 --> 00:03:59,450 collaboration. So basically, 102 00:03:59,490 --> 00:04:01,090 like women can rise together when we 103 00:04:01,130 --> 00:04:03,610 collaborate. So we want obviously they wanted 104 00:04:03,610 --> 00:04:05,610 the talks to relate to the theme of the 105 00:04:05,610 --> 00:04:07,170 event. So we knew we kind of had to take 106 00:04:07,170 --> 00:04:09,090 whatever our idea was and our and, 107 00:04:09,130 --> 00:04:10,930 you know, this kind of story driven, personal 108 00:04:10,930 --> 00:04:13,730 story driven and get it into that idea of 109 00:04:13,730 --> 00:04:15,610 rising together and collaboration. 110 00:04:15,610 --> 00:04:18,130 And I really wanted to talk about I so I 111 00:04:18,130 --> 00:04:19,890 really had to like, stretch the theme of 112 00:04:19,930 --> 00:04:22,130 like, yeah, we can collaborate with AI, 113 00:04:22,170 --> 00:04:23,730 but we're going to be more human. I was like, 114 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:25,530 whatever, it's it's fine. 115 00:04:25,530 --> 00:04:27,690 And then Diana, I'll have you talk about the 116 00:04:27,730 --> 00:04:29,490 topic for your talk. But we did the 117 00:04:29,490 --> 00:04:31,650 application, which were standard application 118 00:04:31,650 --> 00:04:33,450 questions. What is your topic about, 119 00:04:33,490 --> 00:04:35,970 you know, who are you, why do you want to do 120 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:37,490 this topic? That kind of stuff. And we had to 121 00:04:37,490 --> 00:04:39,690 do like a little one minute video for it. 122 00:04:39,690 --> 00:04:41,810 But then when we got notified that we had to 123 00:04:41,810 --> 00:04:44,490 audition and literally it was one week later 124 00:04:44,490 --> 00:04:47,370 and we were so busy because we're running the 125 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:48,450 Thought Leader Academy, 126 00:04:48,490 --> 00:04:50,890 we had panels that we were moderating for the 127 00:04:50,890 --> 00:04:52,770 university where we teach because they had 128 00:04:52,770 --> 00:04:55,420 their big annual event that was also that 129 00:04:55,420 --> 00:04:57,780 same next week. So I think the audition was 130 00:04:57,780 --> 00:05:02,100 on a Wednesday, literally on Sunday, 131 00:05:02,380 --> 00:05:06,900 the day before, I sat down to actually script 132 00:05:06,900 --> 00:05:09,380 out the eight minute talk because all I had 133 00:05:09,380 --> 00:05:11,500 was a paragraph, and then I had to script it 134 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:14,500 out, and then I had to memorize it enough for 135 00:05:14,500 --> 00:05:16,860 the audition on Wednesday. 136 00:05:16,860 --> 00:05:19,140 And I literally just like as I was driving 137 00:05:19,140 --> 00:05:20,780 Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday around town, I 138 00:05:20,780 --> 00:05:23,140 would just say the talk over and over again 139 00:05:23,140 --> 00:05:25,700 in the car is that is that what you did? 140 00:05:25,940 --> 00:05:27,220 Diane Diaz: Pretty much what I did, 141 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:31,860 yes. So I, I did script it out very quickly 142 00:05:31,860 --> 00:05:33,860 and sort of refined it a little bit. 143 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:37,620 And then I think I only started I'll do air 144 00:05:37,620 --> 00:05:41,100 quotes, memorizing it probably a few days 145 00:05:41,100 --> 00:05:45,980 before, before we had to deliver the audition 146 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:47,740 because there really was no time. 147 00:05:47,780 --> 00:05:52,220 And I, I was repeating it to myself as I was 148 00:05:52,220 --> 00:05:53,460 on my long walks. 149 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:56,860 And so I know that somebody might be coming 150 00:05:56,860 --> 00:05:58,580 my way. And I'd stop because I thought 151 00:05:58,620 --> 00:06:00,860 they're they're going to realize I'm not on 152 00:06:00,860 --> 00:06:02,420 the phone because of what I am saying, 153 00:06:02,420 --> 00:06:03,780 and they're going to think I'm losing my 154 00:06:03,780 --> 00:06:04,980 mind. So I wouldn't. 155 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:06,420 Every time somebody would approach me, I 156 00:06:06,420 --> 00:06:08,140 would just know more. 157 00:06:08,420 --> 00:06:12,780 So. So I practiced it on my long walks and I 158 00:06:13,420 --> 00:06:15,340 it was nerve wracking because I would 159 00:06:15,380 --> 00:06:17,180 ordinarily like more than a week to try to 160 00:06:17,220 --> 00:06:18,860 memorize more than three days, to try to 161 00:06:18,860 --> 00:06:20,020 memorize something, but. 162 00:06:20,020 --> 00:06:22,180 Carol Cox: Not only memorize it. We had to create the 163 00:06:22,180 --> 00:06:23,740 entire talk, create it. 164 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:25,900 It wasn't created when we submitted the 165 00:06:25,900 --> 00:06:27,020 application initially. 166 00:06:27,060 --> 00:06:29,300 Diane Diaz: Write, create it, memorize it. And also not 167 00:06:29,540 --> 00:06:31,660 just that, but the delivery of it. 168 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:33,540 Of course, my delivery in the audition wasn't 169 00:06:33,540 --> 00:06:36,060 as powerful as my delivery on stage, 170 00:06:36,060 --> 00:06:37,580 but it still needs to be good because I need 171 00:06:37,580 --> 00:06:39,780 to get selected. So I needed to put some 172 00:06:39,780 --> 00:06:41,620 emphasis on some things right. So that has to 173 00:06:41,620 --> 00:06:43,460 be you have to think that through and 174 00:06:43,460 --> 00:06:45,540 practice that as you as you practice. 175 00:06:46,220 --> 00:06:48,140 Carol Cox: Yeah. So I mean, obviously we've done a lot 176 00:06:48,140 --> 00:06:50,820 of public speaking over the years and, 177 00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:54,070 that kind of putting the reps in definitely 178 00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:55,230 helps for this. 179 00:06:55,230 --> 00:06:57,510 And then what we did for the audition was 180 00:06:57,510 --> 00:06:59,510 that we brought our phones and our phone 181 00:06:59,510 --> 00:07:00,990 tripods. And so we asked, 182 00:07:00,990 --> 00:07:03,910 is it okay if I record we record our audition 183 00:07:03,910 --> 00:07:06,150 for us. So I set up the little tripod on the 184 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:07,950 table. They were also recording it for 185 00:07:07,950 --> 00:07:09,750 themselves so that they could go back during 186 00:07:09,750 --> 00:07:11,870 the selection process and have that. 187 00:07:11,870 --> 00:07:14,430 But I am so glad I recorded my talk, 188 00:07:14,430 --> 00:07:17,510 because then the actual event wasn't until 189 00:07:17,550 --> 00:07:19,630 two months after the audition. 190 00:07:19,630 --> 00:07:20,830 And honestly, I, I mean, 191 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:22,310 of course I had my outline, 192 00:07:22,310 --> 00:07:24,510 but I didn't remember what I actually said 193 00:07:24,550 --> 00:07:27,070 during the audition, so I'm glad I had the 194 00:07:27,070 --> 00:07:29,830 video and I ran a transcript of it. 195 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:31,350 And then so that way I was like, oh yes, 196 00:07:31,390 --> 00:07:33,670 like, this is indeed what I meant to talk 197 00:07:33,670 --> 00:07:36,230 about. So now I can refine it and practice it 198 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:36,910 from there. 199 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:38,750 Diane Diaz: Yeah, it was the same for me when it came 200 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:40,630 time to start memorizing for the actual 201 00:07:40,630 --> 00:07:42,950 delivery of it, I thought, 202 00:07:43,150 --> 00:07:45,150 oh, I don't even really remember what I said. 203 00:07:45,150 --> 00:07:46,430 Like, I knew the general idea, 204 00:07:46,430 --> 00:07:47,790 but I don't remember the words. 205 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:49,750 I'm like, oh boy, good thing I had the 206 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:51,310 recording and my script. 207 00:07:51,710 --> 00:07:53,630 Carol Cox: This is why we always tell all of our 208 00:07:53,630 --> 00:07:55,630 clients, no matter what speaking engagement 209 00:07:55,630 --> 00:07:57,550 you're doing, whether it's an audition like 210 00:07:57,550 --> 00:07:59,630 this, or you're at a conference breakout 211 00:07:59,630 --> 00:08:01,310 session or a lunch and learn, 212 00:08:01,510 --> 00:08:04,070 get a phone tripod to set your phone up. 213 00:08:04,310 --> 00:08:06,110 Nobody. Nobody minds. 214 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:07,510 Just use it for yourself. 215 00:08:07,510 --> 00:08:09,150 You don't. I mean, obviously create video 216 00:08:09,150 --> 00:08:10,390 clips for social media. 217 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:11,990 That would be great too, but mostly for 218 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:14,630 yourself. So you have it so you can go back. 219 00:08:14,630 --> 00:08:16,590 And I know we don't like to watch ourselves, 220 00:08:16,590 --> 00:08:19,590 I get it, but it is helpful to have it even 221 00:08:19,590 --> 00:08:21,630 just to run a transcript of what you said, 222 00:08:21,630 --> 00:08:23,470 much less to actually watch the video. 223 00:08:23,510 --> 00:08:24,870 Diane Diaz: Absolutely, absolutely. 224 00:08:25,350 --> 00:08:28,390 Carol Cox: So, Diane, tell us about your topic for your 225 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:28,870 talk. 226 00:08:28,990 --> 00:08:31,470 Diane Diaz: Yes. So my topic again, 227 00:08:31,470 --> 00:08:33,670 the theme was collaboration over competition. 228 00:08:33,870 --> 00:08:38,990 And I used a personal story of when I got 229 00:08:39,030 --> 00:08:43,830 wrangled into agreeing to do my very first 230 00:08:43,830 --> 00:08:47,550 triathlon without knowing how to swim. 231 00:08:48,030 --> 00:08:51,510 And so I told the story of the process of 232 00:08:51,870 --> 00:08:53,070 going through, you know, 233 00:08:53,110 --> 00:08:55,070 agreeing to that and then going through 234 00:08:55,230 --> 00:08:58,030 learning how to swim and just the support of 235 00:08:58,030 --> 00:09:00,030 other women all along the way, 236 00:09:00,030 --> 00:09:02,350 which was the collaboration that allowed me 237 00:09:02,350 --> 00:09:04,790 to do something that I didn't know how to do 238 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:06,670 when I first started doing it. 239 00:09:06,670 --> 00:09:09,510 And so it allowed me to complete an Ironman 240 00:09:09,510 --> 00:09:12,150 triathlon. And so it was almost like a story 241 00:09:12,150 --> 00:09:15,030 within a story. It was the larger story was 242 00:09:15,030 --> 00:09:16,950 this idea of all the collaboration that I, 243 00:09:16,990 --> 00:09:19,230 that I had from all these other women. 244 00:09:19,230 --> 00:09:21,390 But within that, I was telling the story of 245 00:09:21,710 --> 00:09:24,550 my noticing this girl three miles from the 246 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:28,030 finish, who was crying and how I, 247 00:09:28,430 --> 00:09:29,910 you know, I could have either just continued 248 00:09:29,910 --> 00:09:31,470 on my way or I could say something to her, 249 00:09:31,510 --> 00:09:35,430 and I did. And how other people saw us 250 00:09:35,430 --> 00:09:37,110 talking and me trying to pep her up and other 251 00:09:37,110 --> 00:09:38,310 people from the sidelines. 252 00:09:38,310 --> 00:09:40,110 Other athletes came over and started pepping 253 00:09:40,110 --> 00:09:43,150 her up too. So that story within a story all 254 00:09:44,270 --> 00:09:46,030 went right to what the theme was. 255 00:09:46,030 --> 00:09:48,360 So that was the the gist of my talk. 256 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,240 Carol Cox: And Diane, it was excellent. 257 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,440 I mean, and I'm not just saying that. 258 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,760 It really like you were the first speaker. 259 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:56,480 Diane Diaz: I was. 260 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Carol Cox: And I think they picked you for a reason from 261 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:02,680 the audition. Because you like your story. 262 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,480 I mean, obviously, we practice this so much, 263 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,200 and we we teach this to our clients. 264 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,680 But your storytelling, 265 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,440 not only the content, but your delivery. 266 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,400 Like, you know, you use the stage and you act 267 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,320 it out and you use your body and, 268 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,040 you know, like you're leaning over and you're 269 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,480 doing the movements. 270 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,880 And it just added so much dynamism, 271 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,640 dynamism to your talk. 272 00:10:21,680 --> 00:10:23,400 Diane Diaz: Thank you. Yeah. I you know, 273 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,120 I took the approach because I think for one 274 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,080 reason I did this is that I took the approach 275 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,640 of almost approaching it, 276 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,400 like the comedy set that I did way back when 277 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,440 was like a year ago, which was five minutes. 278 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,520 And the approach that I took for this, 279 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,400 I think because it was such a tight 280 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:42,960 turnaround for the audition, 281 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,840 I decided to make it funny because also 282 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,320 that's just who I am. And I if I feel like if 283 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:49,480 I can get them laughing, 284 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,560 then I've got them. 285 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:52,160 So I thought, you know what, I'm going to 286 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,960 take that approach because I will feel more 287 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,640 comfortable giving the talk if I feel like I 288 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:00,840 am able to be me, which is being funny. 289 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,880 So I tried to make the movements part of 290 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,360 that. Right? So I tried to make, 291 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,960 you know, sort of act things out and facial 292 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,040 expressions and body language and just like 293 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,520 leaning over. And so I tried to do that to 294 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:17,920 create interest, but also to make it fun for 295 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,200 me, because if it's fun for me, 296 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,960 that's going to translate to the audience. 297 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,480 Carol Cox: Yes. Yeah. And I think it definitely did. 298 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,520 And we're hopefully we're getting videos of 299 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,480 our talks because since it was out of 300 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,720 college, they had their media students there 301 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,760 with a really nice camera equipment recording 302 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,040 it. So we don't have the videos as of the 303 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,640 time that we're recording this, but we'll 304 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:38,400 include the video links in the show notes. So 305 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,600 whenever you happen to be listening to this 306 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,160 in the future, hopefully the videos will be 307 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,080 there and you can go check them out. 308 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,880 So yeah. So Diane kicked it off and there 309 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,280 were 11 speakers total. 310 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,040 I was second to the last. 311 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,560 So I was in the the second half of the group 312 00:11:51,560 --> 00:11:53,680 after the break. And all the speakers were 313 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:56,760 really, really good variety of topics. 314 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,280 But they I mean, the content was good, 315 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,840 their stories were good, 316 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,200 their, their stage presence was really good. 317 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,640 I was very impressed. 318 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,800 Diane Diaz: I was extremely impressed because I think 319 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,520 some of the women do speak, 320 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,840 but not all of them necessarily speak that 321 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,440 much, but they all sort of had their own 322 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,320 individual style, which was nice because 323 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,040 everybody's style was different. The stories 324 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,320 were different. Some of them were. 325 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,120 One lady was particularly hilarious, 326 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,200 and I think she, if I remember correctly, 327 00:12:23,680 --> 00:12:24,880 is an attorney. 328 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,560 But she was she was hilarious in the way she 329 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:30,960 was telling stories, and I think she also 330 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,440 adlibbed a little bit, 331 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,200 it felt like. But that made it funnier how 332 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,920 she would just pick up on the audience 333 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:38,200 laughing, and then she would add a little bit 334 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,800 more to that, and it just made it even 335 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,880 funnier. Everybody did so great. 336 00:12:42,330 --> 00:12:45,810 Carol Cox: And. And so here here's my there's takeaways 337 00:12:45,810 --> 00:12:48,010 that I, we want to share with with you all so 338 00:12:48,010 --> 00:12:49,570 that you can think about this. Whether you're 339 00:12:49,570 --> 00:12:52,730 doing a formal Ted talk or a Ted style talk 340 00:12:52,730 --> 00:12:54,770 or any type of speaking, engagement is the 341 00:12:54,770 --> 00:12:58,770 first thing is amplify who you naturally are 342 00:12:58,810 --> 00:13:00,490 as a person, as a speaker, 343 00:13:00,490 --> 00:13:01,810 and as a communicator. 344 00:13:01,970 --> 00:13:04,050 Diane is naturally funny like that. 345 00:13:04,090 --> 00:13:06,090 You know, when we hang out, like she and even 346 00:13:06,090 --> 00:13:07,770 in our text messages and things like that, 347 00:13:07,810 --> 00:13:09,410 like that's just who she is. 348 00:13:09,530 --> 00:13:12,490 So I when it came out in her talk, 349 00:13:12,490 --> 00:13:14,930 that's what made her talk so excellent was 350 00:13:14,930 --> 00:13:18,170 because it channeled who she naturally is. 351 00:13:18,170 --> 00:13:19,690 Same with that other woman who's an attorney 352 00:13:19,730 --> 00:13:21,850 who is also funny but funny in a different 353 00:13:21,850 --> 00:13:23,530 way than you are, Diane. 354 00:13:23,570 --> 00:13:25,650 But it worked for her because that's who she 355 00:13:25,650 --> 00:13:27,850 is. And so she kind of channeled that. 356 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:29,650 So I am much more academic, 357 00:13:29,690 --> 00:13:31,250 like I brought in history to mine. 358 00:13:31,250 --> 00:13:33,250 I have my tech background. I talked about AI, 359 00:13:33,690 --> 00:13:36,250 so it was definitely a different approach 360 00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:38,250 than what you do, Diane. But if I tried to do 361 00:13:38,250 --> 00:13:40,210 what you do, it wouldn't. 362 00:13:40,250 --> 00:13:41,890 It would feel weird to me? 363 00:13:42,050 --> 00:13:44,050 Diane Diaz: Absolutely. I think that is one thing that 364 00:13:44,050 --> 00:13:46,890 most people probably make the mistake of is 365 00:13:46,890 --> 00:13:49,730 trying to be a certain way. 366 00:13:50,050 --> 00:13:51,450 Maybe the expectation is like, 367 00:13:51,490 --> 00:13:53,770 oh, I need to be academic or I need to be, 368 00:13:53,890 --> 00:13:55,650 you know, very, you know, 369 00:13:56,370 --> 00:13:58,810 emotional or whatever the case may be. 370 00:13:58,970 --> 00:14:00,450 And then we try to fit that. 371 00:14:00,450 --> 00:14:03,410 And then I think it shows up in the delivery 372 00:14:03,410 --> 00:14:06,170 because it doesn't feel congruent with who we 373 00:14:06,170 --> 00:14:07,450 are. Right. 374 00:14:07,490 --> 00:14:10,610 And I know my delivery of my talk would be 375 00:14:10,610 --> 00:14:12,930 impacted by if I felt like it didn't quite 376 00:14:12,930 --> 00:14:14,370 align with me. Right. 377 00:14:14,410 --> 00:14:16,970 So I have to have it be who I am. 378 00:14:17,010 --> 00:14:20,050 So I try to put humor in all my talks because 379 00:14:20,050 --> 00:14:22,330 it is who I am. But also your talk being 380 00:14:22,330 --> 00:14:23,450 academic, first of all, 381 00:14:23,450 --> 00:14:24,970 it made sense for the topic that you were 382 00:14:24,970 --> 00:14:26,610 talking about. And also, 383 00:14:26,930 --> 00:14:29,410 I think it made a lot of impact on the 384 00:14:29,410 --> 00:14:31,330 audience because of the facts you were 385 00:14:31,330 --> 00:14:33,450 sharing and the points you were making being 386 00:14:33,450 --> 00:14:36,050 backed up by historical context and different 387 00:14:36,050 --> 00:14:37,930 things like that. It really I mean, 388 00:14:37,930 --> 00:14:40,300 I was looking around the room and I could see 389 00:14:40,340 --> 00:14:42,540 people with like, oh my God, 390 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:44,060 really? I didn't know, like I could see the 391 00:14:44,100 --> 00:14:46,100 looks on their faces. So it really hit. 392 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:46,780 Yeah. 393 00:14:46,940 --> 00:14:48,940 Carol Cox: Yeah. So my talk was about how with AI, 394 00:14:49,140 --> 00:14:50,940 we need to make sure women are in leadership 395 00:14:50,940 --> 00:14:53,340 positions helping to make decisions because 396 00:14:53,380 --> 00:14:55,780 AI is going to impact everything that we do. 397 00:14:55,820 --> 00:14:58,060 And so even no matter who you are, 398 00:14:58,100 --> 00:15:00,140 you don't have to be the on the board of a 399 00:15:00,140 --> 00:15:02,180 big AI company to make a difference. 400 00:15:02,180 --> 00:15:04,220 You can have these conversations about AI in 401 00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:05,660 your workplace and your schools, 402 00:15:05,660 --> 00:15:07,660 communities and so on. So that's what I was 403 00:15:07,660 --> 00:15:09,540 talking about, which is important to me. 404 00:15:09,540 --> 00:15:11,820 But again, like and I try to add little bits 405 00:15:11,820 --> 00:15:13,380 of humor intentionally, 406 00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:15,860 like as I'm going through my script and I did 407 00:15:15,900 --> 00:15:19,180 I did ask ChatGPT to help me with that fail 408 00:15:19,220 --> 00:15:20,420 like it is not. It is. 409 00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:20,660 Diane Diaz: Good. 410 00:15:20,860 --> 00:15:22,300 Carol Cox: Humor, humor. I was like, 411 00:15:22,340 --> 00:15:24,540 it was so corny and so bad. 412 00:15:24,540 --> 00:15:26,100 I was like, forget it, I'm just gonna have to 413 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:26,900 find my own. 414 00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:29,100 Diane Diaz: Yes. Yeah, well, I do remember when you 415 00:15:29,140 --> 00:15:32,260 shared a point about the amount of VC funding 416 00:15:32,260 --> 00:15:34,100 that goes to women and that it's actually 417 00:15:34,100 --> 00:15:35,820 gotten worse. And I was looking around the 418 00:15:35,820 --> 00:15:38,340 room and I think people were stunned by buy 419 00:15:38,340 --> 00:15:38,820 that? 420 00:15:39,420 --> 00:15:42,020 Carol Cox: Yeah. Yeah. It's been around 3%, 421 00:15:42,020 --> 00:15:44,420 3 to 5% over the past 20 years. 422 00:15:44,460 --> 00:15:46,580 And it's going in the negative direction. 423 00:15:46,620 --> 00:15:49,180 Diane Diaz: Not right. And people were I could see on 424 00:15:49,180 --> 00:15:51,100 their faces they were like oh my God. 425 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:53,540 So I think it was impactful in a much 426 00:15:53,540 --> 00:15:55,340 different way. Right. So that's the thing 427 00:15:55,340 --> 00:15:57,300 about it. Using your own natural style. 428 00:15:57,700 --> 00:16:00,940 Carol Cox: Yes. So now that leads me to what I mentioned 429 00:16:00,940 --> 00:16:03,420 earlier about this idea of thinking about 430 00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:05,260 your speaking as a musician, 431 00:16:05,260 --> 00:16:07,420 a musician or an athlete would do. 432 00:16:07,420 --> 00:16:09,420 Because here's what made me think about this. 433 00:16:09,780 --> 00:16:13,500 So a couple weeks after this TEDx style event 434 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:16,140 that we did, I had two speaking engagements 435 00:16:16,140 --> 00:16:18,020 on the same day. Don't really recommend 436 00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:20,220 because it is a lot, but it just turned out 437 00:16:20,220 --> 00:16:21,860 that way. Totally different events. So the 438 00:16:21,860 --> 00:16:23,020 first one in the afternoon, 439 00:16:23,020 --> 00:16:25,740 I spoke at a higher education conference 440 00:16:25,740 --> 00:16:28,380 about the work that I'm doing with AI, 441 00:16:28,420 --> 00:16:29,980 with the students that I teach in our 442 00:16:29,980 --> 00:16:31,500 business and marketing classes. 443 00:16:31,580 --> 00:16:33,740 I spoke at this conference last summer as 444 00:16:33,740 --> 00:16:35,300 well. So that was that was fine. 445 00:16:35,300 --> 00:16:36,740 So that was in the afternoon. And then in the 446 00:16:36,780 --> 00:16:37,940 evening on that same day, 447 00:16:37,940 --> 00:16:40,660 I did an hour long presentation at an AI 448 00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:43,580 meetup, which was about how I'm integrating 449 00:16:43,580 --> 00:16:46,860 AI into speaking your brand into kind of back 450 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:48,780 end operations, podcast production, 451 00:16:48,780 --> 00:16:50,620 and so on. So that was a lot of fun. 452 00:16:50,780 --> 00:16:52,700 And I had probably about 60 slides. 453 00:16:53,060 --> 00:16:55,060 I love slides like, you know, 454 00:16:55,100 --> 00:16:56,900 give me presentation topic and I'm going to 455 00:16:56,900 --> 00:16:59,500 create a bunch of slides for it. So and 456 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:01,580 here's the thing though I didn't practice at 457 00:17:01,580 --> 00:17:04,020 all for the hour long presentation, 458 00:17:04,020 --> 00:17:05,700 I didn't have time. Like again, 459 00:17:05,740 --> 00:17:06,940 my schedule is back to back. 460 00:17:06,940 --> 00:17:08,860 I had I had to get the slides done, 461 00:17:09,260 --> 00:17:13,820 but I knew I would be 100% okay. 462 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:16,980 Yes, because I follow the framework that we 463 00:17:16,980 --> 00:17:18,460 use all the time. 464 00:17:18,860 --> 00:17:20,340 I had the slides to cue me. 465 00:17:20,340 --> 00:17:22,780 I know my content, I know my stories. 466 00:17:23,020 --> 00:17:25,220 And this and I talked about this on the prior 467 00:17:25,220 --> 00:17:28,060 episode, and I really did treat it as a 468 00:17:28,060 --> 00:17:29,900 conversation with the audience. 469 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:31,100 And it was so effective, 470 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:33,860 and I was probably my most enjoyable speaking 471 00:17:33,860 --> 00:17:35,740 engagement I have had, 472 00:17:35,910 --> 00:17:37,790 at least in recent memory. 473 00:17:38,470 --> 00:17:40,230 Because, number one, I like the topic. It's 474 00:17:40,230 --> 00:17:41,950 like a fresh new topic for me, 475 00:17:41,950 --> 00:17:45,790 and I really felt like I it felt very in 476 00:17:45,830 --> 00:17:47,990 alignment with my speaking style. 477 00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:49,950 So here's what I feel like. 478 00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:52,750 I actually do not like the Ted style talks. 479 00:17:52,790 --> 00:17:53,110 Diane Diaz: Oh. 480 00:17:53,510 --> 00:17:54,590 Carol Cox: I have decided. 481 00:17:54,990 --> 00:17:57,230 I did not like it because like Diane, 482 00:17:57,270 --> 00:17:59,510 you just applied for a TedX event. 483 00:17:59,550 --> 00:18:01,150 Diane Diaz: Now I understand why. 484 00:18:01,150 --> 00:18:02,630 Carol Cox: You told me you're like Carol, you should 485 00:18:02,630 --> 00:18:04,070 apply to. And I'm like, nope. 486 00:18:05,070 --> 00:18:06,830 And I was like, I couldn't piece it together 487 00:18:06,830 --> 00:18:08,430 at the time. And I was just like, 488 00:18:08,430 --> 00:18:10,710 you know what I appreciate? 489 00:18:10,750 --> 00:18:14,350 Like, I have so much reverence for our 490 00:18:14,350 --> 00:18:17,110 clients who do Ted talks and do amazing. 491 00:18:17,150 --> 00:18:18,990 Diane, you do amazing. 492 00:18:19,710 --> 00:18:20,990 But I'm glad I did it because, 493 00:18:21,030 --> 00:18:23,350 again, if I was a musician and I only played 494 00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:25,950 piano and I never tried guitar and I never 495 00:18:25,950 --> 00:18:27,110 tried a wind instrument, 496 00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:29,470 or I never tried song writing or singing, 497 00:18:29,470 --> 00:18:32,550 I would be limiting myself in my skill set. 498 00:18:32,590 --> 00:18:34,470 Same thing as an athlete like you need to do 499 00:18:34,590 --> 00:18:35,990 different things because you're going to 500 00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:37,390 figure out number one, what you like the 501 00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:39,910 best. But also you need to also know, 502 00:18:39,950 --> 00:18:42,150 like you need to work those other muscles. 503 00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:44,990 I have worked this eight minute Ted style 504 00:18:44,990 --> 00:18:46,710 muscle now a couple of times, 505 00:18:46,710 --> 00:18:49,630 and it just just does not suit me and what I 506 00:18:49,630 --> 00:18:53,430 like to do. I like the meandering, 507 00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:56,870 conversational 30 45 minute talks. 508 00:18:56,910 --> 00:18:59,190 Diane Diaz: Yes. No, I, I can see your point. 509 00:18:59,190 --> 00:19:02,430 I, I, I do love those, 510 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:06,590 but I think after having done that comedy set 511 00:19:07,270 --> 00:19:10,310 that I feel like the eight minute Ted style 512 00:19:10,350 --> 00:19:14,110 talks, they're more performance versus, 513 00:19:15,230 --> 00:19:17,230 I don't know, talk like presentation. 514 00:19:17,270 --> 00:19:17,510 Right. 515 00:19:17,550 --> 00:19:18,990 Carol Cox: They're like more. 516 00:19:19,030 --> 00:19:19,350 Diane Diaz: More. 517 00:19:19,870 --> 00:19:20,710 Carol Cox: Conversational. 518 00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:22,590 Diane Diaz: Yes. They're more performance versus 519 00:19:22,590 --> 00:19:26,350 conversation. And I kind of like them both. 520 00:19:26,350 --> 00:19:30,310 But I've sort of now gotten bitten by that 521 00:19:30,670 --> 00:19:33,310 performance element from having done the five 522 00:19:33,310 --> 00:19:35,350 minute comedy set and then now having done 523 00:19:35,350 --> 00:19:37,910 this one, both of which I made funny because 524 00:19:37,910 --> 00:19:39,630 the first one had to be. But then this one I 525 00:19:39,630 --> 00:19:43,590 wanted it to be. And so I even approached my 526 00:19:43,590 --> 00:19:46,990 submission to this Ted Ted that I applied to. 527 00:19:47,030 --> 00:19:49,470 I approached that with humor because that's 528 00:19:49,470 --> 00:19:50,830 the only way I want to do it. If it's going 529 00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:53,030 to be, you know, just dry. 530 00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:54,550 I mean, I'm just not going to do it because 531 00:19:54,550 --> 00:19:55,910 I'm not going to have fun and I want to have 532 00:19:55,910 --> 00:19:58,230 fun doing it. But I think because I do make 533 00:19:58,230 --> 00:20:02,430 it fun, I, I never was a performer when I was 534 00:20:02,430 --> 00:20:04,030 young and in high school or college, 535 00:20:04,150 --> 00:20:06,790 but this element of sort of being on the 536 00:20:06,790 --> 00:20:08,950 stage and being like that center of attention 537 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:10,270 and then getting a laugh, 538 00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:12,670 it's the getting a laugh, I think that's got 539 00:20:12,670 --> 00:20:15,310 me. If I can get a laugh like, 540 00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:17,190 yeah, I love it. And so okay, 541 00:20:17,230 --> 00:20:19,190 so if I'm doing the eight minute thing and I 542 00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:20,550 can get 1 or 2 laughs, 543 00:20:20,550 --> 00:20:22,390 then I feel good about that, 544 00:20:22,670 --> 00:20:23,550 that style. 545 00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:25,910 Carol Cox: Yeah. Well see. And this is why, 546 00:20:25,950 --> 00:20:27,590 for those of you listening, try all these 547 00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:29,510 different types of speaking engagements 548 00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:32,200 either. If it's not a formal TEDx event. 549 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,240 Find these TEDx style events because they pop 550 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,200 up here and there and it is good practice. 551 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,600 Even if you feel like, 552 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,200 oh, I don't know if that's my thing or I feel 553 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,560 intimidated by it, you should do it because 554 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,680 you may end up loving it and not realizing 555 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,200 it, or you're going to learn. 556 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,600 You know what? Like, I can see the benefits 557 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,280 and I'm glad I stretched myself, 558 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,960 but I really prefer this other type of 559 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,560 speaking and I really want to hone that 560 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:55,360 instead. 561 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,160 Diane Diaz: Yes. Yeah, it's kind of like improv versus 562 00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,680 standup, right? We did improv. 563 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,280 I don't like it. I never like it. 564 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,840 Anytime that I do it, I do it. 565 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,440 I understand the benefit of having done it, 566 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,640 and I take the benefits and I know what I've 567 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:08,680 learned from it. 568 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,200 I would not want to do it on a continual 569 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,800 basis because I just don't enjoy it. 570 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,960 What I do like is the is the stand up set, 571 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,520 because I'm in control of all of that and I 572 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,920 can tee up the laughs and get the laughs 573 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,120 right, whereas I don't have to rely on it 574 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:23,640 coming in the moment, which it never does. 575 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,120 Right? 576 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,400 Carol Cox: Yes. All right. So I'm glad. 577 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,400 I'm so glad we've had these speaking 578 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,280 engagements. And this is also the reason why 579 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,560 I like to do more speaking engagements, 580 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:33,840 because you're going to figure out what you 581 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,040 like and what you don't like, 582 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,360 which which types of audiences you like, 583 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:39,560 what size audiences you like, 584 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,120 what types of venues you like, 585 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:42,600 what types of topics you like. 586 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,640 This is how you become a better speaker. 587 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,520 The more you do it video yourself. 588 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,600 I haven't really watched my videos yet, 589 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,000 but I need to do it. 590 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,880 I will do, I'll do it, 591 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:54,520 but I have it. It will happen. 592 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,520 So Diane, any other like lessons or takeaways 593 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,520 from either this specific Ted style talk that 594 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,280 you you did or kind of just our conversation 595 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,800 around finding what suits you the best. 596 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:09,600 Diane Diaz: Well, I would just say just a tip for people, 597 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,840 because I know that it is often overwhelming, 598 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:15,040 like you can create this great talk and then 599 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,360 you're like, well, how am I going to remember 600 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:19,040 it? Right? So I have a trick that I used for 601 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,560 the five minute comedy set, and I used it 602 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:21,920 here as well, and it worked. 603 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,600 It was worked both times and I will use it 604 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,800 again. And so I share this as a way to do 605 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,930 this. I would suggest chunking out your talk 606 00:22:29,970 --> 00:22:31,650 and giving yourself keywords for the 607 00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:33,370 different chunks. So my talk was eight 608 00:22:33,370 --> 00:22:35,050 minutes. I think I came up with, 609 00:22:35,490 --> 00:22:40,690 um, maybe it was six six sections and so six 610 00:22:40,690 --> 00:22:43,930 keywords. And I just remembered those words 611 00:22:43,930 --> 00:22:46,370 in order, just the words. 612 00:22:46,530 --> 00:22:48,010 Or it might have been like a two words, 613 00:22:48,010 --> 00:22:49,530 right? Like a two word phrase. 614 00:22:49,770 --> 00:22:51,770 I, I started there, that's where I started 615 00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:54,090 with memorizing it. And so I just would 616 00:22:54,090 --> 00:22:55,930 repeat the words, repeat the words in order, 617 00:22:55,930 --> 00:22:57,450 in order. And then I would put it away for 618 00:22:57,450 --> 00:22:58,890 the day and see, can I remember these 619 00:22:58,890 --> 00:23:00,610 tomorrow? And then the next day, okay, 620 00:23:00,690 --> 00:23:02,530 then I've got those words down. And then I 621 00:23:02,530 --> 00:23:05,850 would start to practice the content around 622 00:23:05,850 --> 00:23:07,090 those words. 623 00:23:07,450 --> 00:23:09,130 You know, what goes. And then that's the 624 00:23:09,130 --> 00:23:10,810 order of my talk. The words, 625 00:23:10,850 --> 00:23:13,130 the words in order is the order of the and 626 00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:15,810 the flow of my talk. So if nothing else, 627 00:23:15,810 --> 00:23:17,530 I've remembered the order. I don't have to 628 00:23:17,570 --> 00:23:19,650 remember every word I'm going to say. I just 629 00:23:19,650 --> 00:23:23,010 need to remember the order of the words and 630 00:23:23,010 --> 00:23:24,370 then talk around it. 631 00:23:24,370 --> 00:23:26,530 And then once I did that, 632 00:23:26,530 --> 00:23:28,690 then I could identify little bits where I'd 633 00:23:28,690 --> 00:23:31,170 get stuck, like, oh, I got to say this thing 634 00:23:31,170 --> 00:23:33,490 because that's like the hook in that portion. 635 00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:35,330 Well, I can't remember that. So then I would 636 00:23:35,330 --> 00:23:37,410 practice that part over and over again, 637 00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:39,810 but it helped me identify where I would get 638 00:23:39,810 --> 00:23:41,530 stuck without having to. 639 00:23:42,050 --> 00:23:43,770 I didn't look at it as memorizing a whole 640 00:23:43,770 --> 00:23:45,730 talk. I looked at it as memorizing just words 641 00:23:45,730 --> 00:23:47,890 at first, and then just chunks at first and 642 00:23:47,890 --> 00:23:49,530 then, okay, now here's the places I'm getting 643 00:23:49,530 --> 00:23:51,250 stuck. That's all I have to worry about. 644 00:23:51,290 --> 00:23:52,330 And it worked. 645 00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:54,290 Carol Cox: Yes. And I did the same thing, 646 00:23:54,330 --> 00:23:55,970 especially for the audition, because it was 647 00:23:55,970 --> 00:23:57,010 such a fast turnaround. 648 00:23:57,050 --> 00:23:58,570 And that really helped a lot. 649 00:23:58,570 --> 00:24:01,930 And I know from once I finished the audition, 650 00:24:01,930 --> 00:24:04,690 I was like, oh, I switched two places around 651 00:24:04,730 --> 00:24:06,810 like two. Like, I call them paragraphs, 652 00:24:06,850 --> 00:24:08,490 like sections around, but I'm like, 653 00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:10,090 but it worked, okay. And guess what? Nobody 654 00:24:10,090 --> 00:24:11,330 knows. Nobody knows. Right? 655 00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:13,770 This is the thing we say. Like nobody has a 656 00:24:13,770 --> 00:24:15,370 script in front of them that's like, 657 00:24:15,410 --> 00:24:17,850 oh, she said this sentence instead of this 658 00:24:17,850 --> 00:24:19,530 sentence, and she put this before this. 659 00:24:19,530 --> 00:24:21,850 Diane Diaz: Nobody knows exactly, exactly. 660 00:24:22,530 --> 00:24:25,290 Carol Cox: So just just go with it and have and have fun 661 00:24:25,290 --> 00:24:26,850 with it. Like, that's the thing I think we're 662 00:24:26,850 --> 00:24:28,730 trying to tell so many of the women we work 663 00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:30,690 with. Like, yes, you're going to feel like a 664 00:24:30,690 --> 00:24:32,890 little nervous, especially if it's the first 665 00:24:32,890 --> 00:24:34,690 time you're giving this particular talk that 666 00:24:34,690 --> 00:24:36,650 you haven't given that one before. 667 00:24:36,810 --> 00:24:39,570 But ultimately, try to find a way to have fun 668 00:24:39,570 --> 00:24:41,530 with it, enjoy it, you know, 669 00:24:41,570 --> 00:24:43,090 get to know the audience, 670 00:24:43,330 --> 00:24:44,970 interact with them beforehand. 671 00:24:44,970 --> 00:24:46,970 So you kind of have warm faces that, 672 00:24:47,010 --> 00:24:49,530 you know, friendly faces that are smiling 673 00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:51,890 back at you. Try these different types of 674 00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:53,450 speaking engagements as well, 675 00:24:53,490 --> 00:24:55,170 because that is going to help you to kind of 676 00:24:55,210 --> 00:24:57,810 flex your muscles and see what it is that you 677 00:24:57,810 --> 00:25:00,810 like and don't like. And if you want to kind 678 00:25:00,810 --> 00:25:03,090 of if you want to figure out what your 679 00:25:03,090 --> 00:25:05,890 speaker archetype is, there's four archetypes 680 00:25:05,890 --> 00:25:08,170 we've identified the stellar scholar, 681 00:25:08,290 --> 00:25:10,610 fabulous facilitator, spellbinding 682 00:25:10,650 --> 00:25:13,850 storyteller, and the provocative performer. 683 00:25:13,890 --> 00:25:15,250 Diane Diaz: Diane, that might be me. 684 00:25:15,690 --> 00:25:17,370 Carol Cox: Maybe moving into the provocative. 685 00:25:17,410 --> 00:25:18,690 Diane Diaz: I think I am. 686 00:25:19,290 --> 00:25:21,930 Carol Cox: So if you want to hear figure out which is 687 00:25:21,930 --> 00:25:23,810 yours, go to speaking your brand. 688 00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,300 Quiz again. The quiz? 689 00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:29,100 It's free. It's just ten multiple choice 690 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:30,540 questions. It's a lot of fun. 691 00:25:30,580 --> 00:25:32,580 You'll get your archetype right away, 692 00:25:32,580 --> 00:25:34,260 and then you'll get recommendations for how 693 00:25:34,260 --> 00:25:36,420 to lean into it more, because we want you to 694 00:25:36,420 --> 00:25:38,700 do more with what you're naturally good at, 695 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,900 but then also recommendations for how to kind 696 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:43,260 of add things to it so that you're amplifying 697 00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:45,220 what your natural strengths are. So I know so 698 00:25:45,220 --> 00:25:47,500 many women have taken that quiz and have 699 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:49,180 really enjoyed getting their results, 700 00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:51,740 and there is no bad archetype like there are. 701 00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:53,540 All of them have their strengths. 702 00:25:53,580 --> 00:25:55,060 Lean into which one is yours. 703 00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:56,660 Like, I'm the stellar scholar, 704 00:25:56,660 --> 00:25:59,140 but I know that I intentionally have to bring 705 00:25:59,140 --> 00:26:01,180 in the performance aspects and the 706 00:26:01,180 --> 00:26:02,420 storytelling aspects. 707 00:26:02,420 --> 00:26:04,820 So now I'm very mindful of that when I'm 708 00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:05,820 creating my talks. 709 00:26:05,860 --> 00:26:07,580 Diane Diaz: Yes, yes, I love that. 710 00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:09,140 Carol Cox: All right, Diane, thank you so much for 711 00:26:09,140 --> 00:26:11,540 joining me today on the podcast. 712 00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:12,780 Diane Diaz: I loved it. Thank you. 713 00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:15,020 Carol Cox: Until next time. Thanks for listening.