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This is where we be.

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Greetings.

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Welcome to Visual PR Live.

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It's actually officially Episode 2,

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but it's a completely

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different look and feel.

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There's been a big gap

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between Episode 1 and 2

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because I've been focusing

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on everyone else's shows,

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as you can imagine,

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rather than our own internal.

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But we're going to go for it,

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and it is a different format.

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We're going to do a little

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bit of a talk at the

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beginning about Visual PR

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and how you can get the most out

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of the service we don't just

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do the shows it's all of

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the things you can do pre

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and post production as well

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and I've then got a very

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special business guest and

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a very special charity

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guest on as well so let's

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get episode two underway

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so there we go all the

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intros done and dusted for

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for my side and I just want

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to cover a couple of bits

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and pieces that are going

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to be helpful not just for

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existing clients but for

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future clients because

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we're really designed to

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make sure that the retainer

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is is on board to get more

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than just these live

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episodes if you consider

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podcasts with a video

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element but going live

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where we can get interaction

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with any viewers with

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comments and questions.

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And please, anybody,

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ask comments or questions

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of me or the guests we've got coming up.

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We've got John Lewis from JL

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Mindset Performance.

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He's the business guest.

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And we've got Jeff Tucker from Best Mates.

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Hashtag, we got you.

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An amazing charity that I've

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just started learning a lot more about.

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And it's just really, really special.

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So when they come up,

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please ask any questions.

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Now...

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The quick title from the

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visual PR side of things is to say, right,

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it's more than just the show.

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It's going to be great

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content because we can

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cover anything in it.

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We can do news, announcements, how-tos,

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instructional pieces, meet the team.

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speaking to some of your customers, tours,

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because these cameras can

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be either in person,

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webcams or even mobile

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cameras touring around somewhere.

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So there's a lot of

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information that we can do,

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but it's about what we do

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wrapped all around it.

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Now,

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the idea is we schedule it from our

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virtual studio to your platforms,

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your YouTube channel, your Facebook page,

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your LinkedIn pages.

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And we then provide you with

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the links that say,

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here's the description of this episode.

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Here's the guests that you've got on.

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And here is the links to

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share to people to be able to view it.

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And that would be a week

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before that it would push it out.

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So Facebook, it will be an event.

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So people can say they're

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interested or they're going on Facebook.

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So LinkedIn and YouTube,

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it's pending lives so that

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you'll be able to share those as well.

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And the trick is, you know,

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share it as much as you possibly can,

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not just by sharing the event itself,

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but there can be QR codes

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or links and we can create

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branded QR codes for you

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that will take you to that episode.

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in your written PR,

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in your digital marketing efforts,

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anything at all.

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And you start getting people

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to know next week we've got

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this guest on and we're

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covering this subject and

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you create an anticipation.

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So that's an idea of some of

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the things to do beforehand

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and try and get people to

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have their questions and comments ready.

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And it will just make it an

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even better experience.

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thing to be able to do.

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By the way, talk about comments.

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There we go.

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Hi, Sophia.

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Good to see you.

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I interviewed Sophia on a

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podcast last week as well

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for somebody else.

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So hi, Sophia.

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Great to see you.

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So your comments,

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your questions can all come

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up here as well.

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But it's not just about the pre.

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episode.

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There's a lot that we can do

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post episode as well, post production.

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Now,

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one of the big things we do is that we

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create a number of clips.

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I'm just going to play this

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video just as an example.

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I can always point the wrong direction.

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There we go.

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That way,

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where we take the episode

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and we create a number of

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clips from them in three

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different size formats.

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As you'll see from this nine by 16,

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16 by nine and one by one,

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because all of our platforms,

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they love it in different angles,

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different sizes, don't they?

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We create those for you.

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half a dozen to a dozen clips,

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20 to 90 seconds long, that sort of thing,

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so that you've now finished

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your episode and we've then

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got another three weeks of

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social media before we then

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start promoting the next episode.

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So you've got a whole load

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of video collateral that is

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created from that episode

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to really give you,

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because what's the hardest

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thing I find with digital

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marketing is coming up with content.

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well,

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the episode can create a lot of that

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video content for you.

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And don't forget,

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not only is video content good in itself,

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there's the whole SEO side of it.

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So when we create the

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description of the episode,

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we're thinking of the SEO

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because apparently YouTube

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is the second largest

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search engine in the world.

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Second only to Google.

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And of course,

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Google put videos at the top

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of your search results from YouTube.

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So it makes sense that we do all of that.

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You're then sharing with

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descriptions as well on

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your social media.

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So you're getting a lot of traction,

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a lot of interaction.

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If you've seen how much more

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interaction videos get over

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just text or even images,

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it's a worthwhile collateral to have.

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um we can even put them as

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YouTube shorts so if you're

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putting a lot of effort

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into your YouTube channel

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these would go as live

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episodes plus an evergreen

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resource that is growing a

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library for you of content

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and guests but with these

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clips you're also able to

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create these YouTube shorts

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as well let alone things

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like TikTok kids are down

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with that John Lewis I can

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see him in the green room

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there he's probably getting

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down with TikTok yeah

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Geoff,

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you knew John would be on for that one,

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wouldn't you?

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He'd be all over TikTok.

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He's a superstar there.

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But you've also able to

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encourage more people to be

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guests on your shows when

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they see how it works.

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And even if I'm not doing the presenting,

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because quite often people

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like that they're not being

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thrust in front of a camera

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with a script.

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I'm actually interviewing

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them and I do it professionally.

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I'm a professional

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motorsports commentator and

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things like that,

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as people who know me know.

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And it makes them relaxed.

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It makes it a more natural

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conversational piece.

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But I don't have to be the interviewer.

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I can be the producer in the background.

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And sometimes we have our

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client has someone that is

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going to be the interviewer

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and they're interviewing

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other guests along.

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That's fine.

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And what you're doing is

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you're making people say, hey,

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this is a good thing to be doing.

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and I want to be a guest on

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that as well and so you're

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growing that for you we can

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also strip the audio out

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from this and make it a

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podcast for you so an audio

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only podcast which are very

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popular these days but it

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means that they can either

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view it or just listen to

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it and it's all from the

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same show the same

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interview they're able to

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do all of the above we can

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also transcribe the whole show

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including who has been

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saying what and there you

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go there's a blog post for

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you to put on your website

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or wherever it might go

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whilst embedding the video

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for you as well it's all

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there it's been created for

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you uh or you could just

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use that transcription for

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for seo and then of course

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the final piece before I

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start bringing my guests

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out from my side is that I

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mentioned earlier about

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these qr codes fully

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branded with your logo on

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it and everything

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that takes people to that episode.

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You suddenly do an article

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in a journal or a press

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release or whatever it might be.

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Who's to say you don't throw

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this QR code at the bottom of that?

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So someone sat in a

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reception reading this journal.

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They're enthralled by it.

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You can only go so far in

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those words and you never know.

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Have they read it all?

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Have they read it in the

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tone and emotion that I wanted them to?

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now you've got this here

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they're sat there with

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their phone next to them

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click this qr code and you

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can watch this interview in

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full bang they click that

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they're now watching on

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their youtube on their

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phone the full interview

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with the emotion with the

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humor if I have anything to

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do with it um you know the

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the personable side of it

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and so you're actually

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spreading add to that by

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the way you're now starting

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to get stats that will be

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able to show you how many

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people have watched that video

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Therefore,

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and we can say that they've

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clicked from that

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particular journal and you

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start getting stats from

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written PR as well as your online media.

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So there's a lot of things

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that we do before a show, after a show,

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as well as during that show.

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And it is about that full service.

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And it really pays.

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We can do everything.

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All of that for you if you wanted to,

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or we can just be providing

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you with a collateral to

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enable you to do an awful

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lot more with your digital

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marketing and your PR.

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Visual PR sits between PR and marketing,

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feeding from and to both of them.

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That's the kind of the idea of it.

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So hopefully that's going to

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help you make sure you get

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the absolute maximum out of

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your efforts with this and

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feel a lot more relaxed

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where you are being

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interviewed rather than

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thrust in front of a camera.

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And as I said earlier,

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I do like to try and have

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as much fun as we possibly can.

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So that's the tip from Visual PR.

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That's part one.

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That means I'm now going to

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move on to part two and I'm

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going to bring on our business guest.

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John Lewis.

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Hello, my friend.

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Mr. Dawes, how are you, sir?

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I'm doing well, mate.

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It's so good to see you on.

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John Lewis from JL Mindset Performance,

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no less.

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Tis me, Chris.

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Tis me.

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I enjoy kind of being in the green room,

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although it's not very

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green here in my mum's

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cubbyhole in Bassett,

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looking at all the

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brilliant things that you do, mate,

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and everything visual PR offers.

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So if you can airbrush this head out,

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and if you can make me sound different...

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We're all on that, mate.

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We're all fine.

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We're all fine.

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But listen,

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you and I have known each other

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for quite a few years,

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actually a lot of years,

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because I can't remember

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whether JL Mindset

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Performance existed when I first knew you,

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when you were collecting

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parcels and things like that,

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or whether that was just

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helping you build up to it.

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I can't remember.

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Yeah, I mean, well, actually,

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you were in Bassett, Chris.

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Correct.

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We're in Bassett now,

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and you were over the top here by...

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uh yeah yeah big computers

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I've I was a delivery man

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at the time um so we're

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probably going back 10

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years something like that

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probably more than that now

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mate I gotta be honest

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there's every chance it was

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longer ago than that but

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it's it's great to see I

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mean give us a a synopsis

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first of all we'll start

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then go into a bit more

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detail what is jl mindset performance

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Wow, what is JL Mindset Performance?

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JL Mindset Performance is me

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as a trained person who

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helps people overcome the obstacles,

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whether that's in their life,

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whether that's in their business,

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whether that's in sport.

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It's all around mindset and

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helping people think in a

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different way that enables

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them to feel a different way,

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to enable them to perform a

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different way.

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And again, it crosses all boundaries, mate,

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because, you know, people...

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want to achieve things personally,

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professionally.

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And I get, you know,

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I have the pleasure of

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doing it every single day, Chris,

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have the pleasure of doing

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it every single day.

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And there's several things I

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want to pick up on there.

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The first one is that you

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say you're trained and it's

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important to pick up on

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that because we're in a

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world where there's a lot of coaches,

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life coaches and things like that.

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That means that not

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everybody is trained and certified.

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And I know you spend a lot

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of time going and getting

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training yourself, don't you?

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I do, mate.

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I think it's important when

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you're working person-centred,

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so you're working with people on a mental,

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physical and emotional level,

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it's only right ethically

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and morally that you are

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doing things the correct way

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so you know you're doing

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things for for the good

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rather than just doing it

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to create a business you

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know opening up a book and

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saying that's it I'm I'm a

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life coach which can be

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done it's it's it's not

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accredited sorry it's not a

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um regulated industry yeah

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and for me chris I want to

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give the best to to my

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clients knowing I'm doing

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things morally the right way

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you know things change all

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the time you know different

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techniques and tools to use

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with people so why would I

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not want to invest in my

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own development so I can

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offer people the best in

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their own personal and

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professional development

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well that sounded quite

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good Chris didn't it was

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that right no 100

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absolutely and I enjoy that

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I like that because it is

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it's one of those things

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that definitely stood out

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for me where I've spoken to

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you over the time is all the

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the accreditation and the

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training that you get and

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that you're able to then pass that on.

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And we're going to,

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when we get towards the

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tail end of the interview

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with you is that we're

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going to try and leave

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people with a couple of

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little nuggets of some description.

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I have no idea what they are.

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I put the pressure on you.

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But, you know,

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I love the fact that your

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client base is so varied from, you know,

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just personal individuals

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that have got some kind of

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blocks or challenges.

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And, you know,

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we've gone through a tough

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time since 2000, sorry,

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2020 with the pandemic in particular,

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that hurt a lot of people.

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And, you know,

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we've had a lot of

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challenges to overcome.

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So as individuals, there are,

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businesses as well as business people,

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because you actually go and

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train groups as well as individuals.

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And some of the most

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enthralling is sports

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people that are already

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even achieving flying things,

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but not getting the mental, you know,

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mindset support.

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And you come in at that

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stage with all of that

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repertoire of clients.

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I do.

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And, you know, and again,

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I'd like to think that, you know,

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I think as we go through

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the age and just what you're saying there,

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Chris, you know, 2020 things change.

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And I think a lot of people

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since then are more

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self-aware of their own

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health and well-being and whatnot.

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You know, even psychology.

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I'm not a sports psychologist.

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You know, I use NLP, which is, again,

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fantastic tools and

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techniques to use in sport.

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But, you know,

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even the notion of sports

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psychology is still new.

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You know, it's still a newish term.

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It's still a newish thing that people,

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you know, get or believe in,

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if I can use that.

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Because, again, even in sport,

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it was always you play sport.

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You know, and that was it.

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Whereas, you know, again, as time goes on,

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you know,

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you need to understand it's not

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the athlete that plays sport.

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It's the person that plays sport with head,

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emotion and obviously the

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physical aspect.

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And when you can align all three, you know,

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chances are you'll get

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yourself in the best

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position to go on and perform your best.

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And again,

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that's why it crosses all

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boundaries because, you know,

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you and I are humans, Chris.

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Well, kind of.

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You're more human than I am.

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We know what it's like.

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The better we feel in ourselves,

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then the better we naturally perform.

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It doesn't always mean we

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get the greatest results and whatnot,

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but we give ourselves the best chance.

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We give ourselves the best chance.

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It's like a jigsaw puzzle, isn't it?

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You know,

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it's like find someone as

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potentially born with with a talent.

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And I think there's a big

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element of that for those

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that go to the absolute tops.

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They still need to train to

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hone their skills and use

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it in the best possible way.

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And, you know,

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all the other bits that come with it.

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But then you've got

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nutritionists that get involved.

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I provide media training for

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sports people because they

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need to interact with media

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and sponsors and supporters

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and things like that.

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Otherwise,

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they can still fall by the

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wayside and not achieve

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their full potential.

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So yours is probably the

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most obvious in my mind of all of them.

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I used to be a national

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level swimmer before I

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found beer and everything else like that.

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And and it could be, you know,

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there are certain events

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that I would just excel at.

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And it would be because I

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turned up in the right frame of mind.

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And then others where my my

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parents would be like

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pulling their hair out

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because I just didn't rock

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up with the right mindset.

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And it would make a big

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difference to what I

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achieved in that competition.

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A hundred percent.

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Yeah.

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And like I say,

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you kind of hear about it

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more and more now.

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And I guess it's because

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people are more open to

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talking about actually how

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they're feeling.

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And, you know,

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and now we've got this whole link of,

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you know, the mind and body are one.

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Whereas for a long period of time,

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it was OK,

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the mind is separate to the body.

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But it's not, you know, we know.

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And again,

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everything you're mentioning there, Chris,

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around nutrition and everything else,

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you know,

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there's a whole science now

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behind nutrition.

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playing a sport, you know,

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the science is always there, Chris,

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but we weren't kind of

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pulling it apart in its

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little entirety is to think, okay,

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if we can gain a little

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percentage advantage here, you know,

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what the difference will that make?

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You know,

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if we can gain an advantage here

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with your nutrition,

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what difference will that make?

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You know,

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and I think the more that we can

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pick apart all these

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different elements that no,

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will either hinder or excel

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someone's performance, you know,

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then we can kind of get

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better clues into what we

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can best do to enable

00:21:01.310 --> 00:21:03.152
somebody to go on and

00:21:03.172 --> 00:21:04.491
perform their best in

00:21:05.112 --> 00:21:06.133
whatever arena it is.

00:21:07.239 --> 00:21:09.579
And, you know, for multiple things,

00:21:09.599 --> 00:21:10.540
I'm sure this is now.

00:21:10.601 --> 00:21:11.300
I put it up earlier.

00:21:11.320 --> 00:21:13.241
Sophia said I could not agree more, John.

00:21:13.281 --> 00:21:14.862
And that was just one of the

00:21:15.123 --> 00:21:18.183
early comments is that she agreed.

00:21:18.263 --> 00:21:19.443
And I do.

00:21:19.483 --> 00:21:20.484
It just sort of resonates

00:21:20.505 --> 00:21:22.086
with me dramatically.

00:21:22.125 --> 00:21:23.346
And what I love is that

00:21:24.186 --> 00:21:26.366
whilst sport is possibly

00:21:26.428 --> 00:21:27.768
the easiest one for us to

00:21:27.807 --> 00:21:28.607
understand where that

00:21:28.667 --> 00:21:31.349
mindset could come in, it applies...

00:21:32.361 --> 00:21:33.561
in our everyday life and in

00:21:33.622 --> 00:21:35.284
particular within organized, you know,

00:21:35.344 --> 00:21:35.884
businesses.

00:21:35.943 --> 00:21:38.527
And that's why, whether it's sort of,

00:21:38.807 --> 00:21:40.647
you know, solopreneurs or whatever,

00:21:40.689 --> 00:21:42.410
trying to make their businesses a success,

00:21:42.650 --> 00:21:44.152
but equally you get taken

00:21:44.231 --> 00:21:45.553
on by commercial

00:21:45.593 --> 00:21:46.993
organizations to go in and

00:21:47.054 --> 00:21:48.875
train all of their people because they,

00:21:49.195 --> 00:21:50.176
they know whether it's,

00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:55.221
I guess the extreme is, is meant,

00:21:55.241 --> 00:21:56.623
was it mental health first aid?

00:21:57.175 --> 00:21:57.296
Yeah,

00:21:57.316 --> 00:21:58.878
I train mental health first aid as well,

00:21:58.898 --> 00:21:59.118
yeah.

00:21:59.259 --> 00:22:00.221
Train mental health.

00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:01.382
Which is different to what

00:22:01.423 --> 00:22:03.144
we're talking about now in a way,

00:22:03.244 --> 00:22:04.626
but it's all sort of interlinked,

00:22:04.708 --> 00:22:04.887
isn't it?

00:22:04.907 --> 00:22:06.790
It's about how our mind is.

00:22:06.830 --> 00:22:08.472
But you help the performance

00:22:08.553 --> 00:22:09.976
in business as well as in sport.

00:22:10.652 --> 00:22:10.811
Yeah.

00:22:10.932 --> 00:22:12.292
And again, that's something, Chris, that,

00:22:12.673 --> 00:22:12.854
you know,

00:22:12.874 --> 00:22:14.054
when I trained to become a coach,

00:22:14.134 --> 00:22:17.297
it was never I want to do it, you know,

00:22:17.517 --> 00:22:19.157
in business, in life, in sport.

00:22:19.198 --> 00:22:20.259
It just seems it's the way

00:22:20.318 --> 00:22:23.480
my business is developed that it's,

00:22:23.840 --> 00:22:24.721
you know, again,

00:22:24.761 --> 00:22:25.722
I'm very proud that

00:22:25.762 --> 00:22:27.223
businesses kind of take me

00:22:27.263 --> 00:22:28.325
in and trust me to work

00:22:28.404 --> 00:22:29.925
with with the teams, because, again,

00:22:29.986 --> 00:22:30.926
naturally, the way we work.

00:22:31.886 --> 00:22:33.047
thing we all have blockages

00:22:33.106 --> 00:22:34.147
chris and we don't always

00:22:34.208 --> 00:22:35.827
get the results we want but

00:22:36.067 --> 00:22:37.229
um you know to be able to

00:22:37.269 --> 00:22:39.568
go into to a business and

00:22:39.729 --> 00:22:41.049
and work with with

00:22:41.089 --> 00:22:42.730
individuals you know again

00:22:42.750 --> 00:22:43.911
around the mindset around

00:22:44.711 --> 00:22:46.030
kind of aligning their

00:22:46.070 --> 00:22:47.211
beliefs with the business's

00:22:47.251 --> 00:22:49.471
beliefs etc uh you know

00:22:49.491 --> 00:22:50.532
then the best chance we

00:22:50.553 --> 00:22:51.613
then have of the business

00:22:51.732 --> 00:22:52.732
performing at its best

00:22:52.792 --> 00:22:53.814
because the people within

00:22:53.834 --> 00:22:54.413
the business are

00:22:55.273 --> 00:22:56.714
will perform at their best

00:22:56.755 --> 00:22:57.954
and also they will feel

00:22:58.015 --> 00:23:00.056
valued by the business so

00:23:00.076 --> 00:23:01.396
then it then has more of

00:23:01.497 --> 00:23:03.938
you know mental health etc

00:23:03.958 --> 00:23:05.358
um you know and that's

00:23:05.378 --> 00:23:06.159
that's what we want and

00:23:06.219 --> 00:23:07.700
again you know without

00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:08.759
putting too much back on

00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:09.820
2020 which ironically

00:23:12.102 --> 00:23:13.583
you know four years ago this

00:23:13.643 --> 00:23:14.624
weekend was probably the

00:23:14.703 --> 00:23:16.265
first kind of lockdown you

00:23:16.305 --> 00:23:18.026
know I think businesses now

00:23:18.046 --> 00:23:19.728
have realized not all

00:23:19.768 --> 00:23:20.508
businesses because some

00:23:20.528 --> 00:23:21.269
were good at doing it

00:23:21.328 --> 00:23:22.490
anyway chris but the

00:23:22.529 --> 00:23:24.431
importance of its people

00:23:24.530 --> 00:23:25.872
the people in your business

00:23:26.432 --> 00:23:29.233
are the most you know get

00:23:29.255 --> 00:23:30.575
the people right and like I

00:23:30.615 --> 00:23:32.156
say the business will excel

00:23:32.196 --> 00:23:33.136
and if you can work with

00:23:33.156 --> 00:23:34.038
those people within the

00:23:34.057 --> 00:23:34.979
business rather than just

00:23:35.019 --> 00:23:36.098
leaving things to chance

00:23:37.099 --> 00:23:39.582
yes grab things of course and not

00:23:43.775 --> 00:23:44.679
happens to you is it because

00:23:44.739 --> 00:23:46.104
it's what you're creating

00:23:46.707 --> 00:23:47.931
or are you living your life

00:23:47.971 --> 00:23:49.517
based on what's happening

00:23:51.244 --> 00:23:51.785
I agree.

00:23:51.965 --> 00:23:53.586
And another mutual friend of ours,

00:23:53.645 --> 00:23:54.247
Rachel Weaven.

00:23:54.267 --> 00:23:54.846
Hi, Rachel.

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She says, invested in you, John,

00:23:58.888 --> 00:24:01.069
to help their people will

00:24:01.130 --> 00:24:02.711
improve their productivity.

00:24:02.770 --> 00:24:03.590
And that's exactly what you

00:24:03.611 --> 00:24:04.592
were just saying there.

00:24:04.612 --> 00:24:06.452
It really will, the success.

00:24:06.553 --> 00:24:08.554
And you don't just take them

00:24:08.634 --> 00:24:09.354
on and press go.

00:24:09.914 --> 00:24:10.714
And let's be honest,

00:24:10.795 --> 00:24:13.395
is that there's no strong person,

00:24:13.435 --> 00:24:14.057
weak person.

00:24:14.076 --> 00:24:14.656
That's a myth.

00:24:14.717 --> 00:24:15.656
That doesn't exist.

00:24:15.978 --> 00:24:16.278
Life

00:24:17.383 --> 00:24:19.223
dare I say, gets in the way, you know,

00:24:19.344 --> 00:24:21.365
things happen that can come

00:24:21.424 --> 00:24:22.526
out of the blue and create

00:24:22.625 --> 00:24:24.366
a blockage of some description,

00:24:25.567 --> 00:24:27.067
let alone for you to then

00:24:27.689 --> 00:24:30.089
take it even higher where you kind of go,

00:24:30.109 --> 00:24:30.930
well, you're doing well,

00:24:31.431 --> 00:24:32.451
could you do even better?

00:24:32.871 --> 00:24:33.571
And, you know,

00:24:33.612 --> 00:24:35.053
you're able to sort of take

00:24:35.093 --> 00:24:36.272
those skills even further.

00:24:36.673 --> 00:24:38.294
It must be so rewarding as

00:24:38.374 --> 00:24:41.836
well as emotional at times as well,

00:24:41.895 --> 00:24:42.396
I'd imagine.

00:24:42.416 --> 00:24:44.438
It is, Chris, yeah, you know,

00:24:45.375 --> 00:24:46.655
Again,

00:24:47.057 --> 00:24:49.257
nothing is more satisfying for me

00:24:49.317 --> 00:24:51.377
than knowing somebody has

00:24:51.518 --> 00:24:52.337
achieved something they

00:24:52.357 --> 00:24:53.558
want to achieve or they're

00:24:53.578 --> 00:24:54.898
happy or I've played a part.

00:24:54.919 --> 00:24:56.700
I don't see myself as the whole picture.

00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:57.539
I've played a part in

00:24:57.579 --> 00:24:59.441
helping that person maybe

00:24:59.480 --> 00:25:00.621
believe in their self more

00:25:00.861 --> 00:25:04.143
or maybe achieve something

00:25:04.163 --> 00:25:05.042
they never thought they

00:25:05.063 --> 00:25:06.123
were capable of doing.

00:25:06.983 --> 00:25:08.364
I'm very privileged and honoured.

00:25:09.323 --> 00:25:10.304
to do that Chris you know

00:25:10.344 --> 00:25:11.904
that said I'm still a human

00:25:11.944 --> 00:25:13.605
being myself and I still

00:25:13.645 --> 00:25:14.686
have these feelings and

00:25:14.707 --> 00:25:15.627
these thoughts and these

00:25:15.688 --> 00:25:17.328
emotions and blockages and

00:25:17.409 --> 00:25:18.650
whatnot you know and again

00:25:18.710 --> 00:25:19.671
it's having having a

00:25:19.711 --> 00:25:21.731
self-awareness and that's

00:25:21.751 --> 00:25:23.173
what I personally believe

00:25:23.212 --> 00:25:23.913
it comes to having a

00:25:23.973 --> 00:25:26.035
self-awareness of self

00:25:26.115 --> 00:25:27.056
obviously hence the

00:25:27.076 --> 00:25:29.196
self-awareness and you know

00:25:29.758 --> 00:25:31.318
stacking on what you are

00:25:31.358 --> 00:25:32.920
already doing but knowing

00:25:33.621 --> 00:25:35.061
you know we nine times out

00:25:35.082 --> 00:25:36.162
of ten we limit ourselves

00:25:37.482 --> 00:25:38.324
we limit ourselves

00:25:39.554 --> 00:25:42.296
Yeah, no, I agree in that completely.

00:25:43.336 --> 00:25:45.077
Where did this come from then?

00:25:45.137 --> 00:25:47.398
What happened in John

00:25:47.439 --> 00:25:49.599
Lewis's life to lead to JL

00:25:49.660 --> 00:25:50.760
Mindset Performance?

00:25:52.061 --> 00:25:53.143
Well, how long have you got, Chris?

00:25:54.405 --> 00:25:57.047
As long as we need to, definitely.

00:25:57.146 --> 00:25:58.387
Short and curlers of it, mate.

00:25:58.607 --> 00:25:59.587
Can I say short and curlers?

00:25:59.607 --> 00:26:01.568
That's not swearing, is it?

00:26:01.628 --> 00:26:02.190
Well, it depends.

00:26:02.769 --> 00:26:03.769
People overthink it.

00:26:03.950 --> 00:26:05.530
If people overthink it, they might be.

00:26:06.672 --> 00:26:07.031
Okay.

00:26:07.932 --> 00:26:11.794
So for me, again, you know, just naturally,

00:26:11.814 --> 00:26:13.494
I've always loved working with people,

00:26:13.535 --> 00:26:13.734
Chris.

00:26:13.775 --> 00:26:15.655
I've always had an interest in people.

00:26:15.695 --> 00:26:18.017
I've always wanted to help people,

00:26:18.057 --> 00:26:18.836
support people.

00:26:19.718 --> 00:26:21.939
You know, back in the school days,

00:26:23.479 --> 00:26:25.180
I would want to help people, you know,

00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:26.560
I always stood up to

00:26:26.580 --> 00:26:28.362
bullies and you know yourself,

00:26:28.402 --> 00:26:31.022
I'm not the tallest guy, but you know,

00:26:31.042 --> 00:26:32.364
I always, from a young age,

00:26:32.384 --> 00:26:33.244
I always believed that

00:26:33.305 --> 00:26:36.506
everybody should be capable

00:26:36.546 --> 00:26:37.946
of doing what they want on this planet.

00:26:37.967 --> 00:26:38.728
We've all been given this

00:26:38.768 --> 00:26:40.868
gift and that is life to start with.

00:26:41.828 --> 00:26:42.670
And so, so, you know,

00:26:42.690 --> 00:26:43.490
I always had a natural

00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:44.750
empathy with people and

00:26:45.010 --> 00:26:46.251
understanding of people and

00:26:46.791 --> 00:26:47.952
always found it easy to,

00:26:49.161 --> 00:26:50.080
kind of get on with people

00:26:50.121 --> 00:26:51.041
always found it easy to

00:26:51.082 --> 00:26:52.303
build rapport with people.

00:26:52.782 --> 00:26:53.863
And I feel that is something

00:26:53.883 --> 00:26:54.743
that naturally was

00:26:54.804 --> 00:26:57.664
ingrained in me that when I, again,

00:26:57.684 --> 00:26:59.026
I didn't choose to do what I do.

00:26:59.105 --> 00:27:00.406
I believe it kind of was a

00:27:00.507 --> 00:27:02.086
natural progression that

00:27:02.166 --> 00:27:03.107
when it came to like,

00:27:03.167 --> 00:27:04.347
even a crossroad in my life,

00:27:04.387 --> 00:27:05.229
there's me doing a cross.

00:27:06.088 --> 00:27:07.529
Yeah.

00:27:07.990 --> 00:27:09.451
When it came to a crossroads for me,

00:27:09.471 --> 00:27:09.871
because, again,

00:27:09.911 --> 00:27:11.571
this ties into what we said at the start,

00:27:11.592 --> 00:27:14.032
Chris, when I was a delivery driver.

00:27:14.573 --> 00:27:18.015
You know, dad, two beautiful children,

00:27:18.055 --> 00:27:19.895
a beautiful wife, mortgage bills.

00:27:20.556 --> 00:27:23.797
You know, I needed to work, you know,

00:27:23.856 --> 00:27:25.817
support my family as we go.

00:27:26.318 --> 00:27:29.319
It got to to a point where, you know,

00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:30.560
it came back to me.

00:27:30.621 --> 00:27:33.061
OK, what do I want to do with my life?

00:27:33.082 --> 00:27:34.742
I don't want to drive a van all my life,

00:27:34.782 --> 00:27:35.163
you know, so.

00:27:36.291 --> 00:27:37.933
then did some research on on

00:27:38.074 --> 00:27:38.755
you know I knew what I was

00:27:38.795 --> 00:27:39.434
going to do would be

00:27:39.515 --> 00:27:41.717
person-centered and I just

00:27:41.757 --> 00:27:43.699
feel I just I just knew was

00:27:43.719 --> 00:27:44.720
that was that the answer

00:27:44.740 --> 00:27:45.601
you were looking for chris

00:27:45.621 --> 00:27:46.801
have I just gone on 20

00:27:46.801 --> 00:27:48.163
minutes and you were just no no no

00:27:49.102 --> 00:27:49.622
No, no, no.

00:27:50.001 --> 00:27:50.521
Keep going.

00:27:50.702 --> 00:27:52.143
But it's like I got that is

00:27:52.182 --> 00:27:53.723
that you were then looking.

00:27:53.743 --> 00:27:54.463
I mean,

00:27:54.483 --> 00:27:56.203
I didn't know the story that it was.

00:27:57.065 --> 00:27:58.204
I kind of suspected it was

00:27:58.244 --> 00:27:58.964
the case that you were

00:27:58.984 --> 00:28:01.125
doing that means to an end.

00:28:02.006 --> 00:28:02.945
And I wasn't sure where the

00:28:02.986 --> 00:28:04.527
jail mindset had already started.

00:28:04.586 --> 00:28:06.307
And this was just but it was

00:28:06.347 --> 00:28:08.208
a side hustle at that stage or whether.

00:28:08.288 --> 00:28:10.348
No, you it sounds like you actually said,

00:28:10.769 --> 00:28:11.729
right, I'm not happy.

00:28:11.749 --> 00:28:13.710
I now need to do something.

00:28:13.750 --> 00:28:14.869
And that's where it became.

00:28:15.230 --> 00:28:16.770
I'm doing something person centered.

00:28:17.548 --> 00:28:18.229
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:28:18.269 --> 00:28:20.369
I don't think I was ever unhappy.

00:28:20.390 --> 00:28:22.549
I don't think I was ever unhappy.

00:28:22.710 --> 00:28:24.390
You never seemed it, I'll be honest.

00:28:24.990 --> 00:28:28.050
Yeah, you should see me in the green room,

00:28:28.090 --> 00:28:29.151
Chris, crying my eyes out.

00:28:29.171 --> 00:28:31.011
You know,

00:28:31.051 --> 00:28:35.291
but it was just I knew I wanted more.

00:28:35.352 --> 00:28:36.813
And I thought, gee, you know, by then,

00:28:37.573 --> 00:28:38.752
probably eight years ago,

00:28:38.772 --> 00:28:40.012
I was doing the maths thinking, right,

00:28:40.032 --> 00:28:41.453
if I work until 66, I was...

00:28:44.721 --> 00:28:46.384
38 back then, that leaves me 36 years.

00:28:49.102 --> 00:28:49.481
Okay.

00:28:49.721 --> 00:28:50.623
I want to go through the

00:28:50.663 --> 00:28:52.083
rest of my life doing

00:28:52.163 --> 00:28:53.784
something that I want to do.

00:28:53.804 --> 00:28:54.963
You know, I made that choice.

00:28:54.983 --> 00:28:55.263
And again,

00:28:55.305 --> 00:28:56.365
it's great me doing all these

00:28:56.384 --> 00:28:57.846
things and supporting other people,

00:28:58.425 --> 00:28:59.705
but very aware in the South

00:28:59.746 --> 00:29:01.487
that I want to create my

00:29:01.586 --> 00:29:02.686
future for myself.

00:29:03.468 --> 00:29:04.688
And it didn't happen overnight.

00:29:04.728 --> 00:29:06.028
It's still a work in progress.

00:29:06.148 --> 00:29:06.669
You know, as,

00:29:06.888 --> 00:29:08.210
as we said in the green screen, you know,

00:29:08.230 --> 00:29:08.829
we're in business.

00:29:08.849 --> 00:29:10.150
This is not always easy as

00:29:10.750 --> 00:29:11.871
challenges and whatnot,

00:29:12.151 --> 00:29:13.451
but the vision has always been clear.

00:29:13.612 --> 00:29:15.291
The vision has always been clear.

00:29:15.311 --> 00:29:15.393
Yeah.

00:29:16.929 --> 00:29:17.913
And I'm very,

00:29:18.054 --> 00:29:20.162
very proud that I'm achieving my own

00:29:20.711 --> 00:29:21.852
goals as I go knowing

00:29:21.872 --> 00:29:23.011
there's still more things

00:29:23.073 --> 00:29:23.972
along the way knowing

00:29:23.992 --> 00:29:24.693
there's still going to be

00:29:24.753 --> 00:29:25.794
hurdles in the way but

00:29:25.814 --> 00:29:27.335
again it's not what happens

00:29:27.394 --> 00:29:28.336
it's how you respond to it

00:29:28.375 --> 00:29:29.477
Chris and I feel if we kind

00:29:30.217 --> 00:29:32.097
of respond to things in a

00:29:32.137 --> 00:29:33.699
way that that you know

00:29:33.739 --> 00:29:34.839
keeps us on our journey

00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:36.621
then that's that's half the

00:29:36.641 --> 00:29:37.602
battle there Chris because

00:29:37.721 --> 00:29:39.343
it's it's a mindset of

00:29:39.502 --> 00:29:40.723
never say die believe in

00:29:40.784 --> 00:29:42.005
myself and what I'm doing

00:29:42.025 --> 00:29:44.826
um and yeah you know the

00:29:44.886 --> 00:29:45.906
evidence is there Chris

00:29:45.987 --> 00:29:47.548
that the business is is

00:29:47.929 --> 00:29:48.949
going well and every day I

00:29:48.989 --> 00:29:49.789
wake up with an

00:29:50.369 --> 00:29:52.355
pleasure in in doing what I

00:29:52.375 --> 00:29:55.522
set out to do what does the

00:29:55.623 --> 00:29:57.366
future hold for jay on mindset

00:29:59.027 --> 00:30:00.448
oh good good question coach

00:30:00.929 --> 00:30:03.809
good question good question

00:30:04.171 --> 00:30:05.411
and here's the irony of it

00:30:05.451 --> 00:30:06.771
I've never been really big

00:30:06.791 --> 00:30:07.792
you know like as a coach

00:30:07.853 --> 00:30:08.532
and people always think

00:30:08.553 --> 00:30:09.253
when you're with a coach

00:30:09.273 --> 00:30:10.734
you can say what's your big

00:30:10.795 --> 00:30:11.915
goals what's your big

00:30:12.115 --> 00:30:13.416
dreams etc you know I've

00:30:13.457 --> 00:30:14.958
never had big goals and big

00:30:15.038 --> 00:30:17.298
dreams it was more like a

00:30:17.378 --> 00:30:18.500
feeling it was like a

00:30:18.579 --> 00:30:20.101
natural feeling to to to

00:30:20.800 --> 00:30:21.980
you know very kinesthetic if

00:30:22.020 --> 00:30:22.801
you if you know what that

00:30:22.842 --> 00:30:24.261
means you know so I i go

00:30:24.301 --> 00:30:25.942
more on feel than than what

00:30:26.002 --> 00:30:29.304
I see and for me like I say

00:30:29.344 --> 00:30:31.443
chris for me and I said

00:30:31.463 --> 00:30:32.585
this on someone's podcast

00:30:32.845 --> 00:30:34.144
last week for me success

00:30:34.305 --> 00:30:35.765
isn't having a car on the

00:30:35.805 --> 00:30:36.965
drive you know a big car on

00:30:36.986 --> 00:30:38.645
the drive or having a yacht

00:30:38.746 --> 00:30:41.086
in I don't know lech laid

00:30:41.547 --> 00:30:42.426
there you go that's how big

00:30:42.467 --> 00:30:43.228
my mindset works

00:30:44.962 --> 00:30:46.183
You sound American there.

00:30:46.265 --> 00:30:48.426
There's no borders outside of Wiltshire.

00:30:49.048 --> 00:30:49.689
Exactly.

00:30:49.769 --> 00:30:50.690
Who are my friend?

00:30:50.750 --> 00:30:51.130
Who are?

00:30:51.150 --> 00:30:54.674
You know, for me, it's just waking up,

00:30:55.255 --> 00:30:57.178
feeling like I'm making a

00:30:57.218 --> 00:30:58.118
difference and doing that

00:30:58.179 --> 00:30:59.220
on a grander scale than

00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:01.041
what I'm currently doing, Chris,

00:31:01.082 --> 00:31:01.342
you know.

00:31:01.903 --> 00:31:02.903
My kids are getting older.

00:31:03.023 --> 00:31:04.204
It's nice now to watch them

00:31:04.265 --> 00:31:07.327
kind of flourishing in their lives.

00:31:07.949 --> 00:31:09.829
You know, so for me, it's it's, you know,

00:31:10.151 --> 00:31:11.030
to answer your question,

00:31:11.050 --> 00:31:13.032
the future just holds me

00:31:13.913 --> 00:31:15.715
steadily doing what I'm doing, Chris.

00:31:16.717 --> 00:31:20.539
I feel I feel like I'm on the right path.

00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:22.622
I feel like I'm on the right path.

00:31:23.617 --> 00:31:24.519
So Rachel's wrong.

00:31:24.538 --> 00:31:25.900
She said world domination.

00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:26.921
So she's not right.

00:31:27.741 --> 00:31:29.303
Oh, Rachel, world domination.

00:31:29.323 --> 00:31:30.443
You've asked that as a question,

00:31:30.463 --> 00:31:31.464
like world domination.

00:31:31.505 --> 00:31:33.486
Like I should be, hmm, world domination.

00:31:33.506 --> 00:31:35.307
It's like pinky in the brain.

00:31:35.327 --> 00:31:36.648
Do you remember that animation?

00:31:39.771 --> 00:31:41.772
Do you know what?

00:31:41.834 --> 00:31:43.414
I would just like to dominate Highworth.

00:31:44.015 --> 00:31:44.816
You'll be happy then.

00:31:44.935 --> 00:31:45.777
You'll be happy.

00:31:45.817 --> 00:31:46.396
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:31:50.143 --> 00:31:52.085
Can you give us, the viewers,

00:31:53.766 --> 00:31:55.646
a piece of advice or two

00:31:55.666 --> 00:31:58.329
that is a useful thing to

00:31:58.369 --> 00:31:59.390
be able to take away in

00:31:59.611 --> 00:32:01.852
what is a challenging world

00:32:02.712 --> 00:32:04.273
and climate that we live in?

00:32:04.294 --> 00:32:05.575
Okay.

00:32:05.776 --> 00:32:06.435
Don't watch the news.

00:32:06.455 --> 00:32:07.856
There you go.

00:32:07.876 --> 00:32:08.218
There's one.

00:32:08.998 --> 00:32:09.939
I'd agree with that.

00:32:11.019 --> 00:32:11.160
Yeah.

00:32:11.536 --> 00:32:12.036
I agree.

00:32:12.496 --> 00:32:13.757
I actually have done the

00:32:13.797 --> 00:32:14.676
occasional one where I've

00:32:14.717 --> 00:32:16.076
just turned every all

00:32:16.096 --> 00:32:17.597
notifications from the news

00:32:17.718 --> 00:32:19.317
apps and everything and not watched it.

00:32:19.698 --> 00:32:21.078
And it made a world of difference.

00:32:22.598 --> 00:32:22.778
Yeah.

00:32:23.220 --> 00:32:24.039
And I also think, you know,

00:32:24.059 --> 00:32:25.400
keeping it on a kind of

00:32:25.460 --> 00:32:27.921
business stroke life theme, you know,

00:32:27.941 --> 00:32:29.441
if we if we kind of get out

00:32:29.461 --> 00:32:30.321
of this mindset.

00:32:30.342 --> 00:32:31.761
And again, I see it with a lot of people.

00:32:32.041 --> 00:32:33.143
They won't start something

00:32:33.163 --> 00:32:34.603
because they're too scared to fail.

00:32:35.643 --> 00:32:35.863
Yes.

00:32:36.143 --> 00:32:37.564
They don't start in the first place.

00:32:37.624 --> 00:32:39.203
And I've always been a believer that,

00:32:39.243 --> 00:32:40.424
you know, there is no failure,

00:32:40.484 --> 00:32:41.184
only feedback.

00:32:42.232 --> 00:32:42.313
Now,

00:32:42.333 --> 00:32:43.413
if you're going with that kind of

00:32:43.453 --> 00:32:45.174
mindset of, okay, you know,

00:32:45.194 --> 00:32:46.596
this might work, this might not,

00:32:46.636 --> 00:32:48.698
but if I get the feedback and move on,

00:32:49.179 --> 00:32:50.420
then I can come out the

00:32:50.460 --> 00:32:51.621
other side and do things in

00:32:51.641 --> 00:32:53.862
a different way with new evidence,

00:32:54.123 --> 00:32:56.403
you know, with new ways of doing things.

00:32:57.285 --> 00:33:00.307
And for me, that's kind of been...

00:33:00.948 --> 00:33:02.048
game-changing it's been

00:33:02.088 --> 00:33:02.808
game-changing because I

00:33:02.848 --> 00:33:04.029
think it always comes also

00:33:04.230 --> 00:33:05.309
just just on that you know

00:33:05.329 --> 00:33:06.990
because it comes back to

00:33:07.050 --> 00:33:09.192
confidence in in respects

00:33:09.291 --> 00:33:10.333
and the reason I say that

00:33:10.353 --> 00:33:10.853
is because it was a

00:33:10.913 --> 00:33:12.334
conversation I had with

00:33:12.374 --> 00:33:13.194
someone the other day when

00:33:13.234 --> 00:33:14.515
I told them this and they

00:33:14.555 --> 00:33:15.236
said yeah but I'm not

00:33:15.476 --> 00:33:19.077
confident enough to to to kind of do that

00:33:20.013 --> 00:33:20.213
I'm like,

00:33:20.233 --> 00:33:21.694
what you need to be confident in

00:33:21.934 --> 00:33:23.976
is confident that it might go right.

00:33:24.056 --> 00:33:24.855
It might go wrong.

00:33:25.296 --> 00:33:26.115
That's confidence.

00:33:26.737 --> 00:33:28.376
You know, confidence is thinking, OK,

00:33:28.416 --> 00:33:29.218
I can do this and

00:33:29.258 --> 00:33:30.978
everything's going to be grand and rose.

00:33:30.998 --> 00:33:31.199
You know,

00:33:31.219 --> 00:33:32.659
people who know me know I make

00:33:32.699 --> 00:33:33.618
things up on the spot.

00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.560
I'm confident to know that it might work.

00:33:36.601 --> 00:33:37.181
It might not.

00:33:37.861 --> 00:33:39.862
But I'll take the feedback and go again.

00:33:40.402 --> 00:33:42.083
And that helps drive me on.

00:33:43.198 --> 00:33:44.798
I've got one that is in the

00:33:44.838 --> 00:33:47.280
same vein as that is that I have a rule,

00:33:47.361 --> 00:33:48.560
never have a what if.

00:33:49.402 --> 00:33:50.301
I would rather give

00:33:50.382 --> 00:33:52.963
something a go and heaven

00:33:53.003 --> 00:33:54.565
forbid find it doesn't work

00:33:54.644 --> 00:33:56.445
or doesn't work how I intended it to.

00:33:57.405 --> 00:34:00.146
And no, they'll never go for it and go,

00:34:00.346 --> 00:34:01.946
what if I had done that?

00:34:02.386 --> 00:34:03.426
I mean, my commentary,

00:34:03.487 --> 00:34:05.207
my motorsports commentary, I'm so lucky.

00:34:05.247 --> 00:34:08.228
I get paid to travel the UK and Europe and,

00:34:08.827 --> 00:34:09.047
you know,

00:34:09.068 --> 00:34:10.467
pretty much every weekend

00:34:10.487 --> 00:34:11.668
between March and November

00:34:12.228 --> 00:34:13.588
commentating on motorsport.

00:34:14.568 --> 00:34:15.829
And this came from a

00:34:15.889 --> 00:34:17.030
five-year-old boy that used

00:34:17.050 --> 00:34:18.090
to sit on the spectator

00:34:18.110 --> 00:34:19.869
banks at Castle Combe with

00:34:20.210 --> 00:34:22.190
my dad and fell in love with racing.

00:34:22.291 --> 00:34:23.150
And suddenly I'm doing that.

00:34:23.190 --> 00:34:24.251
And it all came from...

00:34:25.331 --> 00:34:28.695
I would rather go for it, apply for it,

00:34:29.476 --> 00:34:31.338
and not get the opportunity

00:34:31.358 --> 00:34:33.240
than bottling out,

00:34:33.260 --> 00:34:34.302
because I nearly didn't.

00:34:34.422 --> 00:34:36.985
My wife had to sort of change,

00:34:37.545 --> 00:34:38.586
remind me this rule of

00:34:38.626 --> 00:34:39.509
never have a what if,

00:34:39.588 --> 00:34:41.590
because I was about to go,

00:34:41.650 --> 00:34:42.512
that's what other people

00:34:42.552 --> 00:34:43.813
are lucky enough to do, not me.

00:34:44.954 --> 00:34:46.016
But she said, hang on,

00:34:46.076 --> 00:34:46.777
if we're sat up in a

00:34:46.797 --> 00:34:48.097
spectator bank listening to

00:34:48.137 --> 00:34:50.579
a new commentator, how will you feel?

00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:51.061
And I'll go, oh,

00:34:51.860 --> 00:34:52.942
I wonder if I'd have got it

00:34:53.041 --> 00:34:54.103
if I had gone for it.

00:34:54.784 --> 00:34:56.085
And this is just how I live

00:34:56.125 --> 00:34:57.585
my life is that give it a go.

00:34:58.675 --> 00:35:00.034
and find the answers grow

00:35:00.074 --> 00:35:01.036
from it learn from it

00:35:01.436 --> 00:35:03.215
rather than than say no

00:35:03.315 --> 00:35:06.237
just in case I know so I

00:35:06.317 --> 00:35:07.356
I'm with you on that one

00:35:07.777 --> 00:35:09.237
and rachel says great tip

00:35:09.277 --> 00:35:10.978
guys uh tips guys love the

00:35:11.038 --> 00:35:12.878
feedback not failure and

00:35:12.898 --> 00:35:14.918
the what if absolutely I i

00:35:14.978 --> 00:35:16.878
agree uh thank you for that

00:35:16.918 --> 00:35:18.659
rachel and sophia says

00:35:18.800 --> 00:35:19.960
confidence is having the

00:35:20.019 --> 00:35:22.119
courage to try and not

00:35:22.179 --> 00:35:24.161
being afraid if it doesn't go to plan

00:35:25.532 --> 00:35:26.233
Yes, I agree.

00:35:27.076 --> 00:35:28.498
And I find that it's quite

00:35:28.579 --> 00:35:30.684
often not two dimensional

00:35:30.844 --> 00:35:32.427
of success or failure.

00:35:34.764 --> 00:35:35.884
What we have in our head is

00:35:36.244 --> 00:35:37.224
that this is what I'm going

00:35:37.244 --> 00:35:38.724
to do and this is how it's going to be.

00:35:38.744 --> 00:35:40.784
It doesn't always go that way,

00:35:41.264 --> 00:35:42.405
but you suddenly could be

00:35:42.445 --> 00:35:43.606
doing things even better

00:35:43.626 --> 00:35:44.726
than you imagined because

00:35:44.766 --> 00:35:45.925
it opens up doors that you

00:35:45.965 --> 00:35:47.126
hadn't considered before,

00:35:47.786 --> 00:35:49.027
but you would never know it.

00:35:49.126 --> 00:35:50.766
I do it with my public

00:35:50.786 --> 00:35:51.867
speaking training is that

00:35:51.927 --> 00:35:53.248
if you don't go and take

00:35:53.268 --> 00:35:54.288
those opportunities to

00:35:54.367 --> 00:35:55.648
speak in front of people

00:35:56.248 --> 00:35:58.327
and let people know what you know,

00:35:58.447 --> 00:35:59.429
what you're good at,

00:35:59.528 --> 00:36:00.708
what you're passionate about,

00:36:01.336 --> 00:36:02.277
The only thing you can be

00:36:02.336 --> 00:36:03.777
sure of is that you will

00:36:03.918 --> 00:36:06.139
never open those doors that

00:36:06.179 --> 00:36:07.559
you could have done by being heard.

00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:08.400
Yeah.

00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:10.179
Put yourself in there.

00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:12.360
So I love that one, John.

00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:13.862
That makes so much sense to me.

00:36:13.882 --> 00:36:14.902
Thank you.

00:36:15.702 --> 00:36:16.762
Is there anything that I

00:36:16.842 --> 00:36:18.023
haven't asked or got you to

00:36:18.083 --> 00:36:19.222
say that you'd like to on

00:36:19.264 --> 00:36:20.583
JL Mindset Performance,

00:36:20.643 --> 00:36:21.903
other than the fact I put this up,

00:36:21.963 --> 00:36:23.844
jlmindsetperformance.co.uk?

00:36:23.864 --> 00:36:23.965
Ta-da!

00:36:27.010 --> 00:36:28.692
You're loving this, aren't you, John?

00:36:29.152 --> 00:36:31.152
This is like the best day of my life,

00:36:31.233 --> 00:36:32.313
Chris.

00:36:32.612 --> 00:36:33.974
I'm very easily pleased.

00:36:34.193 --> 00:36:38.096
See, the yacht in Lettslade and this.

00:36:38.376 --> 00:36:40.637
And this, yeah.

00:36:40.976 --> 00:36:42.637
It's the dream you didn't know you had.

00:36:42.677 --> 00:36:43.177
There you go.

00:36:43.197 --> 00:36:46.639
Cheers, coach.

00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:48.619
Anything that you'd like to

00:36:48.659 --> 00:36:49.740
say that I haven't asked

00:36:49.780 --> 00:36:50.780
you or got you to say yet

00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:52.282
about it for the viewers?

00:36:53.088 --> 00:36:53.509
No, nothing.

00:36:53.528 --> 00:36:54.869
I mean, my website is up there.

00:36:54.909 --> 00:36:56.610
If you want to take a look

00:36:56.670 --> 00:36:57.650
and see if anything there

00:36:57.670 --> 00:37:00.030
you feel relates to you, yourself,

00:37:00.090 --> 00:37:01.771
your sport, your business or anyone else,

00:37:01.791 --> 00:37:02.050
you know,

00:37:02.070 --> 00:37:02.851
because I cross a lot of

00:37:02.911 --> 00:37:05.192
boundaries between, like we said, sport,

00:37:05.231 --> 00:37:06.911
life, business, you know,

00:37:06.952 --> 00:37:07.992
mental health first aid,

00:37:08.052 --> 00:37:09.813
delivering workshops on confidence,

00:37:09.893 --> 00:37:10.233
belief.

00:37:10.273 --> 00:37:10.913
You know, there's a lot.

00:37:11.333 --> 00:37:13.414
There's a lot I feel I can offer.

00:37:13.434 --> 00:37:14.653
You know, I work hard to do it.

00:37:15.333 --> 00:37:16.255
So we've just left to have a

00:37:16.275 --> 00:37:17.795
conversation with somebody

00:37:17.835 --> 00:37:18.855
who feels as though they

00:37:18.875 --> 00:37:20.295
would benefit from jail

00:37:20.335 --> 00:37:21.576
mindset performance.

00:37:22.657 --> 00:37:25.759
absolutely uh which rachel

00:37:25.798 --> 00:37:26.860
said more like a dinghy

00:37:26.900 --> 00:37:28.280
boat to your uh to your

00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:29.820
yacht in lech laid so uh

00:37:30.202 --> 00:37:31.141
can we can we like get

00:37:31.161 --> 00:37:32.503
people can you like kick

00:37:32.543 --> 00:37:33.563
people off of sending

00:37:33.603 --> 00:37:37.025
messages I can I can love

00:37:37.065 --> 00:37:41.288
you yeah well john thank

00:37:41.307 --> 00:37:42.369
you so much for that

00:37:42.449 --> 00:37:43.289
insight it's been really

00:37:43.369 --> 00:37:44.309
useful don't go anywhere

00:37:44.550 --> 00:37:45.791
everybody because we've got

00:37:45.831 --> 00:37:47.351
something that is very close to

00:37:48.052 --> 00:37:49.512
your heart and before we

00:37:49.552 --> 00:37:51.534
introduce them uh let me

00:37:51.554 --> 00:37:52.574
just quickly check because

00:37:52.594 --> 00:37:53.914
uh I love it see she's

00:37:54.275 --> 00:37:55.576
she's regained us now

00:37:55.615 --> 00:38:00.338
hasn't she probably it

00:38:00.378 --> 00:38:01.898
probably is um but we

00:38:02.039 --> 00:38:03.840
before we bring out the the

00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:05.800
next guest and as as we've

00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:06.802
explained this the whole

00:38:06.882 --> 00:38:07.961
idea of this charity

00:38:07.981 --> 00:38:10.123
spotlight we're about to do is that

00:38:11.905 --> 00:38:12.907
There are a lot of charities

00:38:12.967 --> 00:38:15.210
about and we don't always

00:38:16.010 --> 00:38:17.873
necessarily understand or

00:38:17.932 --> 00:38:19.653
appreciate what it is that

00:38:19.693 --> 00:38:21.396
they do and why they do it.

00:38:22.036 --> 00:38:23.338
It's not just about sort of

00:38:23.398 --> 00:38:24.519
like shaking the can and

00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:25.701
putting money into the pocket.

00:38:25.721 --> 00:38:27.103
It's not always money they need.

00:38:27.463 --> 00:38:28.403
There is an objective

00:38:28.443 --> 00:38:29.264
they're trying to go and

00:38:29.304 --> 00:38:30.326
there are multiple ways

00:38:30.385 --> 00:38:31.987
that they can achieve that objective.

00:38:32.427 --> 00:38:33.829
And so I want to do in every

00:38:33.889 --> 00:38:35.411
episode a charity spotlight

00:38:35.471 --> 00:38:37.072
where that charity in

00:38:37.112 --> 00:38:38.012
question is going to come

00:38:38.112 --> 00:38:40.375
on and explain what it is they do,

00:38:40.514 --> 00:38:41.456
why they do it,

00:38:41.516 --> 00:38:42.797
what's the background to it

00:38:43.077 --> 00:38:44.378
and how they do it.

00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.340
And we're then shining a

00:38:47.380 --> 00:38:48.822
spotlight on that charity

00:38:49.342 --> 00:38:50.463
so that we can understand

00:38:50.543 --> 00:38:51.945
more about what is around us.

00:38:52.485 --> 00:38:55.327
So before I do this, Sophia says, awesome.

00:38:55.347 --> 00:38:56.108
Bless you, Sophia.

00:38:56.148 --> 00:38:56.829
Thank you for that.

00:38:58.170 --> 00:38:59.731
Um, on, on that one,

00:38:59.771 --> 00:39:00.831
before we introduce and

00:39:00.851 --> 00:39:02.612
don't give necessarily all of it away,

00:39:02.731 --> 00:39:04.032
but what made you a

00:39:05.514 --> 00:39:06.793
recommend that we got this

00:39:06.873 --> 00:39:08.454
next person on as,

00:39:08.614 --> 00:39:09.956
as the charity guest and

00:39:10.235 --> 00:39:12.056
why you've teamed up with, uh,

00:39:12.117 --> 00:39:12.777
with best mates.

00:39:14.123 --> 00:39:15.423
Well for me personally the

00:39:15.463 --> 00:39:17.664
reason I've teamed up with

00:39:17.684 --> 00:39:18.585
Best Mates is purely

00:39:18.605 --> 00:39:19.985
because I absolutely love

00:39:20.626 --> 00:39:21.746
what they do and you know

00:39:21.766 --> 00:39:22.846
in a lot of respects

00:39:22.865 --> 00:39:24.487
there's a lot of synergy in

00:39:24.527 --> 00:39:26.126
what I do and what Best Mates do.

00:39:26.146 --> 00:39:28.507
Actually it was Rachel I

00:39:28.547 --> 00:39:29.807
think that first introduced

00:39:30.128 --> 00:39:31.148
me and Jeff to each other

00:39:31.168 --> 00:39:33.429
when I first sat down with

00:39:33.489 --> 00:39:34.329
Jeff and a couple of the

00:39:34.389 --> 00:39:36.389
other guys I know who are

00:39:36.869 --> 00:39:38.389
within the charity you know it was a

00:39:38.951 --> 00:39:39.492
No brainer.

00:39:39.811 --> 00:39:41.893
It was an absolute no brainer.

00:39:41.914 --> 00:39:42.954
They're doing amazing work.

00:39:42.974 --> 00:39:44.577
They're just at the start of the journey.

00:39:45.197 --> 00:39:45.677
And again,

00:39:45.717 --> 00:39:48.061
I can't wait to see how this

00:39:48.141 --> 00:39:50.503
charity excels and the

00:39:50.543 --> 00:39:51.445
brilliant work that it's

00:39:51.505 --> 00:39:53.226
doing and the even bigger

00:39:53.266 --> 00:39:54.208
and brighter and better

00:39:54.248 --> 00:39:56.170
work it's naturally going to do.

00:39:57.344 --> 00:39:57.884
Absolutely.

00:39:58.023 --> 00:39:58.244
Well,

00:39:58.403 --> 00:40:00.105
I think we need to get the main man out.

00:40:00.144 --> 00:40:02.585
It's Jeff Tucker from Best Bates.

00:40:03.126 --> 00:40:04.445
We're going to kick in to

00:40:04.626 --> 00:40:05.686
our charity spotlight.

00:40:05.786 --> 00:40:07.706
Alone, we can do so little,

00:40:07.947 --> 00:40:10.007
but together we can do so much.

00:40:10.367 --> 00:40:11.527
Visual PR's charity

00:40:11.568 --> 00:40:12.949
spotlight is about shining

00:40:12.989 --> 00:40:14.548
a light on the amazing work

00:40:14.588 --> 00:40:16.150
and objectives of charities,

00:40:16.389 --> 00:40:18.190
as they do not do it for publicity,

00:40:18.349 --> 00:40:19.690
but it is important that we

00:40:19.831 --> 00:40:20.650
know about them.

00:40:20.990 --> 00:40:22.590
what they do and understand

00:40:22.690 --> 00:40:24.251
why charity is not just

00:40:24.311 --> 00:40:25.831
about making a donation it

00:40:25.891 --> 00:40:26.851
is about making a

00:40:26.891 --> 00:40:41.135
difference well so without

00:40:41.195 --> 00:40:43.115
further ado jeff tucker

00:40:43.396 --> 00:40:44.836
welcome my friend thank you

00:40:44.896 --> 00:40:46.637
so much for joining us how are you

00:40:47.690 --> 00:40:48.050
Very good.

00:40:48.070 --> 00:40:48.492
Thank you.

00:40:48.731 --> 00:40:49.411
Very interesting.

00:40:49.431 --> 00:40:50.313
Listen to John there.

00:40:51.333 --> 00:40:57.518
Yeah, but we love him for it.

00:40:57.538 --> 00:40:58.239
That's the main thing.

00:40:59.300 --> 00:41:02.101
You know, your words,

00:41:02.141 --> 00:41:03.762
your kind words just a minute ago,

00:41:04.202 --> 00:41:06.784
John was, you know, it's fantastic, mate.

00:41:06.804 --> 00:41:07.666
You're great that we've got

00:41:07.686 --> 00:41:08.405
you on board and you

00:41:08.425 --> 00:41:09.027
understand what we're

00:41:09.047 --> 00:41:09.967
trying to do in someone.

00:41:10.007 --> 00:41:11.429
So if we can get that across

00:41:11.469 --> 00:41:13.550
today and share that passion,

00:41:13.570 --> 00:41:15.231
then that's what we're here to do.

00:41:15.251 --> 00:41:15.911
So thanks for having me on.

00:41:17.016 --> 00:41:18.697
No, appreciate that, Jeff.

00:41:18.777 --> 00:41:19.677
And obviously,

00:41:19.737 --> 00:41:22.438
you're in the boardroom of

00:41:22.538 --> 00:41:25.918
your original responsibility,

00:41:25.938 --> 00:41:28.039
and that is track employment.

00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:28.780
That's right, isn't it?

00:41:29.340 --> 00:41:30.719
Track employment solutions, yeah.

00:41:30.739 --> 00:41:31.739
We're a 17-year-old

00:41:32.141 --> 00:41:34.041
recruitment business based in Swindon.

00:41:34.161 --> 00:41:36.342
So changing people's lives

00:41:36.382 --> 00:41:38.041
by finding them jobs effectively.

00:41:39.641 --> 00:41:40.802
So this is now,

00:41:40.943 --> 00:41:42.123
we're obviously focusing

00:41:42.163 --> 00:41:43.842
today on the charity Best

00:41:43.922 --> 00:41:46.264
Mates with the hashtag We Got Ya.

00:41:47.474 --> 00:41:48.655
It's very new, isn't it?

00:41:48.735 --> 00:41:50.557
Am I right in saying that?

00:41:51.059 --> 00:41:52.420
Very new, yeah.

00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:54.621
We started the concept,

00:41:54.641 --> 00:42:00.387
the idea sort of kicked in back in 2022.

00:42:00.387 --> 00:42:01.668
Carl, my business partner,

00:42:01.688 --> 00:42:03.590
he ran the marathon

00:42:04.291 --> 00:42:05.592
and with things going on in

00:42:05.612 --> 00:42:06.092
the background.

00:42:06.112 --> 00:42:07.333
So the idea and the concept

00:42:07.373 --> 00:42:07.974
was back in 2022,

00:42:07.974 --> 00:42:10.257
sort of started things

00:42:10.317 --> 00:42:12.458
moving around about November 22,

00:42:12.458 --> 00:42:13.878
and then we went live with

00:42:13.938 --> 00:42:17.322
charity status as of November 23.

00:42:17.322 --> 00:42:17.942
So yeah,

00:42:18.023 --> 00:42:20.985
as in charity status and actually

00:42:21.045 --> 00:42:22.606
going live, very new.

00:42:23.085 --> 00:42:23.766
But in the background,

00:42:23.806 --> 00:42:24.547
lots of bits and pieces

00:42:24.588 --> 00:42:26.369
have been sort of building us, you know,

00:42:26.528 --> 00:42:27.309
as we get to this stage.

00:42:28.483 --> 00:42:29.043
I love that.

00:42:29.103 --> 00:42:29.923
That's really cool.

00:42:30.023 --> 00:42:30.264
Well,

00:42:30.824 --> 00:42:32.445
for the people that hadn't heard of it,

00:42:32.545 --> 00:42:34.025
and I'll be honest with you, Jeff,

00:42:34.425 --> 00:42:36.144
that included me until John

00:42:36.184 --> 00:42:36.864
said about it.

00:42:37.005 --> 00:42:38.025
Not surprising with those

00:42:38.065 --> 00:42:38.905
dates you've just said.

00:42:38.945 --> 00:42:40.585
We're not even at six months old yet.

00:42:41.766 --> 00:42:43.266
So speak to us.

00:42:43.387 --> 00:42:45.666
What's the synopsis of what Best Mates is?

00:42:45.686 --> 00:42:46.766
Because from what I read,

00:42:46.927 --> 00:42:48.367
it's very different to what

00:42:48.748 --> 00:42:49.507
we see elsewhere.

00:42:50.487 --> 00:42:50.987
Okay, cool.

00:42:51.007 --> 00:42:52.168
Well, I might wrap it on a bit here.

00:42:52.208 --> 00:42:54.608
So just feel free to jump in.

00:42:54.668 --> 00:42:56.389
So effectively...

00:42:57.983 --> 00:42:58.623
There was a time,

00:42:58.684 --> 00:42:59.885
so I went back there with

00:42:59.945 --> 00:43:01.965
Carl run the marathon and

00:43:01.985 --> 00:43:03.125
some thought process going through.

00:43:03.144 --> 00:43:04.686
But back in 2020,

00:43:04.686 --> 00:43:05.606
my son went through a tough

00:43:05.646 --> 00:43:06.425
period where he actually

00:43:06.445 --> 00:43:07.547
got attacked by some lads

00:43:08.786 --> 00:43:09.347
and he went through a

00:43:09.427 --> 00:43:10.746
really tough time that he

00:43:10.786 --> 00:43:11.867
didn't know where to turn.

00:43:12.628 --> 00:43:14.788
Depression and really sort

00:43:14.827 --> 00:43:17.768
of hit a spot where me as a dad,

00:43:17.789 --> 00:43:19.409
I didn't know where to turn.

00:43:19.449 --> 00:43:20.769
I didn't know who to speak to.

00:43:21.389 --> 00:43:22.309
I got to a point where I

00:43:22.349 --> 00:43:22.990
didn't even know how to

00:43:23.050 --> 00:43:24.010
talk to my own son.

00:43:24.670 --> 00:43:24.911
You know,

00:43:24.951 --> 00:43:26.972
it was just remember at that time

00:43:26.992 --> 00:43:27.751
when I just stood at the

00:43:27.791 --> 00:43:30.193
patio doors looking out crying, thinking,

00:43:30.233 --> 00:43:30.952
what am I going to do?

00:43:31.032 --> 00:43:31.913
How am I going to help you?

00:43:32.713 --> 00:43:34.574
And it dawned on me over

00:43:34.773 --> 00:43:37.655
over a period of time that, you know,

00:43:38.835 --> 00:43:40.235
some people hit a period

00:43:40.255 --> 00:43:42.115
where they need somebody to help them.

00:43:43.048 --> 00:43:46.050
You need to be able to reach out.

00:43:46.230 --> 00:43:47.271
You said earlier that

00:43:47.570 --> 00:43:48.751
there's hundreds and

00:43:48.851 --> 00:43:50.052
hundreds of charities out

00:43:50.092 --> 00:43:52.152
there that do this, that, the other.

00:43:52.353 --> 00:43:53.972
We don't always necessarily

00:43:54.074 --> 00:43:56.014
know what they tend to do.

00:43:56.494 --> 00:43:58.315
It kind of dawned on me that

00:43:58.735 --> 00:44:01.516
there wasn't a support

00:44:02.717 --> 00:44:05.117
charity group out there

00:44:05.197 --> 00:44:07.018
that you could reach out to

00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.679
and find your way through a

00:44:10.300 --> 00:44:11.481
crap period of time.

00:44:11.521 --> 00:44:12.280
You might be

00:44:13.264 --> 00:44:13.983
what if you go through

00:44:14.003 --> 00:44:14.945
depression it could be

00:44:14.985 --> 00:44:15.824
grief addiction

00:44:15.864 --> 00:44:17.146
unemployment and so on and

00:44:17.266 --> 00:44:18.445
some people you just don't

00:44:18.485 --> 00:44:19.947
know and you wriggle your

00:44:19.987 --> 00:44:22.068
way through it um and john

00:44:22.088 --> 00:44:22.768
will probably tell you you

00:44:22.788 --> 00:44:24.148
know that you end up

00:44:24.188 --> 00:44:25.489
talking to some people and

00:44:25.748 --> 00:44:27.110
they just need that guide

00:44:28.070 --> 00:44:29.331
so effectively what

00:44:29.371 --> 00:44:30.952
happened was the thought

00:44:30.972 --> 00:44:32.112
process was going on in the

00:44:32.152 --> 00:44:33.152
back of my head about what

00:44:33.193 --> 00:44:34.592
can I do how can this work

00:44:35.253 --> 00:44:36.373
now this sounds really this

00:44:36.414 --> 00:44:37.574
is a bit ridiculous but I

00:44:37.594 --> 00:44:38.434
was on a golf trip

00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:40.641
with a load of lads.

00:44:41.661 --> 00:44:43.202
A few customers, never met them before,

00:44:43.242 --> 00:44:44.664
but one of my best mates came along.

00:44:45.364 --> 00:44:46.846
I hadn't seen him for about a year,

00:44:46.865 --> 00:44:48.306
so he came on this trip with us.

00:44:49.007 --> 00:44:50.548
And when we got on the trip,

00:44:50.668 --> 00:44:52.670
I introduced him as my best mate Steve.

00:44:52.789 --> 00:44:53.510
I said, hello guys,

00:44:53.630 --> 00:44:54.632
this is best mate Steve.

00:44:56.273 --> 00:44:57.653
Every single person through

00:44:57.673 --> 00:44:59.556
that gold trip started calling each other,

00:44:59.635 --> 00:45:01.137
best mate Jeff, best mate Steve,

00:45:02.077 --> 00:45:03.818
best mate Ian, best mate pal,

00:45:03.938 --> 00:45:05.400
best mate this, best mate that.

00:45:05.740 --> 00:45:06.621
And it was just a joke

00:45:06.661 --> 00:45:07.521
through the whole weekend.

00:45:08.483 --> 00:45:08.643
But

00:45:09.007 --> 00:45:09.789
Do you know what it did?

00:45:09.809 --> 00:45:13.670
It built a camaraderie ship amongst those,

00:45:13.851 --> 00:45:16.233
I think it was probably about 22 people,

00:45:17.414 --> 00:45:18.394
and we just had such a

00:45:18.454 --> 00:45:20.275
laugh and a connection that

00:45:20.416 --> 00:45:21.956
it got me thinking, hang on a minute,

00:45:22.657 --> 00:45:23.677
that word best mate,

00:45:24.338 --> 00:45:25.880
it just breaks any walls down.

00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:29.061
It breaks anything down that

00:45:29.101 --> 00:45:30.282
sort of gets in the way of

00:45:30.342 --> 00:45:31.382
you talking to.

00:45:31.543 --> 00:45:32.864
So effectively what then

00:45:32.925 --> 00:45:34.806
happened was the concept came out of,

00:45:36.291 --> 00:45:38.351
Best Mates basically works

00:45:38.532 --> 00:45:39.952
as if you're going through

00:45:39.992 --> 00:45:42.413
a certain issue and you

00:45:42.452 --> 00:45:43.434
don't know where to turn,

00:45:43.454 --> 00:45:44.494
you'll reach out to us.

00:45:45.235 --> 00:45:47.434
And what we do is we recruit

00:45:47.474 --> 00:45:48.275
what we call mates.

00:45:49.135 --> 00:45:50.197
Now those mates are people

00:45:50.217 --> 00:45:51.117
which have all been through

00:45:51.157 --> 00:45:53.657
their own individual circumstances,

00:45:55.259 --> 00:45:56.739
might be continuing to go through it,

00:45:56.778 --> 00:45:58.039
but they've come out the other end,

00:45:58.559 --> 00:45:59.420
they've seen the light,

00:45:59.460 --> 00:46:01.481
they're getting better and

00:46:01.521 --> 00:46:02.380
they're on track for a

00:46:02.420 --> 00:46:03.742
better life and they fix themselves.

00:46:04.726 --> 00:46:06.067
So take yourself with your

00:46:06.126 --> 00:46:07.246
problem and I put you with

00:46:07.306 --> 00:46:07.987
somebody that's been

00:46:08.027 --> 00:46:09.807
through exactly the same situation.

00:46:10.628 --> 00:46:11.809
You're then talking to

00:46:11.929 --> 00:46:12.789
somebody that can

00:46:12.829 --> 00:46:15.351
completely relate to your situation.

00:46:16.271 --> 00:46:17.492
Absolutely not advised

00:46:17.552 --> 00:46:18.052
because we're not

00:46:18.132 --> 00:46:19.032
counsellors or anything like that.

00:46:19.052 --> 00:46:20.233
But if you if you were

00:46:20.253 --> 00:46:21.074
talking to me about that

00:46:21.114 --> 00:46:23.594
situation and I could really say, listen,

00:46:23.614 --> 00:46:24.614
this is where I was at.

00:46:24.655 --> 00:46:26.376
This is how I got to where I got to.

00:46:27.317 --> 00:46:29.639
You're not talking to your mum, your dad,

00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:30.280
your brother,

00:46:30.860 --> 00:46:32.603
your sister or whatever that might be,

00:46:33.103 --> 00:46:34.605
who will say what they need to say.

00:46:34.625 --> 00:46:36.286
You're talking to somebody

00:46:36.306 --> 00:46:37.847
that will just go, I can really,

00:46:38.027 --> 00:46:40.431
really resonate what your situation is.

00:46:41.411 --> 00:46:43.153
And then basically, simple as that,

00:46:43.253 --> 00:46:44.554
the charity will then step

00:46:44.655 --> 00:46:46.476
in and either signpost to

00:46:46.496 --> 00:46:48.018
the service you need,

00:46:49.130 --> 00:46:50.693
or supporting that service

00:46:51.132 --> 00:46:53.956
and just help us to help

00:46:53.996 --> 00:46:55.697
you change your life to get

00:46:55.717 --> 00:46:57.298
it back on track where it needs to be.

00:46:58.000 --> 00:46:58.920
So it's as simple as that.

00:46:58.981 --> 00:47:00.202
You come forward with a problem,

00:47:00.262 --> 00:47:01.222
we match you with a best

00:47:01.262 --> 00:47:02.603
mate or a mate as we call them,

00:47:03.045 --> 00:47:04.425
and then the charity backs that up.

00:47:05.726 --> 00:47:06.907
So I like that.

00:47:06.947 --> 00:47:09.811
So you are, first of all, giving that...

00:47:10.807 --> 00:47:12.630
feeling of or get rid of the

00:47:12.710 --> 00:47:13.990
feeling of thinking that

00:47:14.010 --> 00:47:15.032
you're alone you know I'm

00:47:15.052 --> 00:47:16.492
picturing you at the back

00:47:16.532 --> 00:47:17.534
door where you're going I

00:47:17.574 --> 00:47:18.715
don't have the answers and

00:47:18.755 --> 00:47:19.896
this is we all have these

00:47:19.976 --> 00:47:22.177
moments don't we go damn it

00:47:22.237 --> 00:47:23.398
I don't have all the answers

00:47:24.612 --> 00:47:26.472
And we just bumble along thinking we do.

00:47:26.592 --> 00:47:27.793
I know all I need to know

00:47:27.873 --> 00:47:28.753
and I'm getting on with it.

00:47:28.773 --> 00:47:29.673
And you said, no, I don't.

00:47:30.514 --> 00:47:31.554
I can definitely relate to

00:47:31.614 --> 00:47:33.434
yours because as a parent,

00:47:33.715 --> 00:47:34.936
you're there kind of going,

00:47:34.956 --> 00:47:37.117
I'm supposed to be looking

00:47:37.197 --> 00:47:38.677
after and I can't do that.

00:47:38.958 --> 00:47:40.378
That was your particular one there.

00:47:40.777 --> 00:47:41.699
And it's like, I'm alone.

00:47:41.739 --> 00:47:42.458
So first of all,

00:47:42.498 --> 00:47:44.840
this removes that element.

00:47:45.420 --> 00:47:46.079
Secondly,

00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:47.840
it's given a person that you can

00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:49.260
open up and speak to that

00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:50.402
doesn't have a bias.

00:47:51.141 --> 00:47:53.063
You said it's not a mum, a dad, a brother,

00:47:53.123 --> 00:47:54.545
a partner or anything.

00:47:55.326 --> 00:47:56.626
With the best intentions,

00:47:56.947 --> 00:47:58.349
they're still going to have a bias.

00:48:00.110 --> 00:48:01.731
Sometimes you just need that peeled away.

00:48:01.831 --> 00:48:02.952
Get rid of all of that and

00:48:02.992 --> 00:48:05.454
just be someone who's going

00:48:05.474 --> 00:48:07.396
to even slap me around the

00:48:07.436 --> 00:48:08.797
back of the head if I needed it.

00:48:08.818 --> 00:48:08.797
100%.

00:48:08.998 --> 00:48:09.297
Yeah.

00:48:09.318 --> 00:48:09.818
Yeah.

00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:13.501
Which is what, equally, by the way,

00:48:13.563 --> 00:48:14.684
I've only just realised

00:48:14.804 --> 00:48:16.666
where your nameplate, Best Mate Jeff,

00:48:16.807 --> 00:48:18.871
I now get why it says Best Mate Jeff.

00:48:20.032 --> 00:48:20.753
Very important.

00:48:21.815 --> 00:48:22.596
I do like that.

00:48:22.876 --> 00:48:24.159
I didn't get that earlier,

00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:26.422
but after that story, I get it.

00:48:27.155 --> 00:48:29.617
But the follow-up is that you can,

00:48:32.579 --> 00:48:33.639
if required,

00:48:33.798 --> 00:48:35.159
you're then able to signpost

00:48:35.199 --> 00:48:37.240
them to the best source of support,

00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:37.842
et cetera.

00:48:38.521 --> 00:48:40.882
And also to support that if

00:48:40.922 --> 00:48:42.003
the need's there as well.

00:48:42.583 --> 00:48:45.465
I think the next stage on

00:48:45.525 --> 00:48:48.387
from that scenario, effectively,

00:48:48.927 --> 00:48:50.188
is one of the biggest

00:48:50.208 --> 00:48:52.228
things that we hang our hat

00:48:52.329 --> 00:48:53.550
on is there are some

00:48:53.570 --> 00:48:54.650
fantastic charities where

00:48:54.670 --> 00:48:55.891
you go and signpost

00:48:56.695 --> 00:48:57.795
you donate and it sort of

00:48:57.815 --> 00:49:00.157
goes into the research part over here.

00:49:01.556 --> 00:49:02.777
And, and, you know,

00:49:03.557 --> 00:49:04.617
in terms of finding

00:49:04.717 --> 00:49:07.798
remedies and fixing and cures for stuff,

00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:09.938
the money kind of disappears into the,

00:49:10.259 --> 00:49:11.519
into the pot to make that happen.

00:49:11.539 --> 00:49:14.079
So, but what we tend to do is we, we,

00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:16.721
we aim to, it's the wrong side of it.

00:49:16.740 --> 00:49:19.521
It's like put it where it's needed.

00:49:19.581 --> 00:49:20.181
Effectively.

00:49:20.728 --> 00:49:21.949
So for example,

00:49:21.989 --> 00:49:24.632
we had a lad come forward to us.

00:49:25.353 --> 00:49:26.773
He was working on a building site.

00:49:27.173 --> 00:49:28.295
He unfortunately fell down

00:49:28.355 --> 00:49:29.717
two flights of stairs, ladders,

00:49:29.817 --> 00:49:31.739
should I say, broke his back.

00:49:33.021 --> 00:49:33.922
came forward he didn't have

00:49:33.961 --> 00:49:35.702
any um any sort of um

00:49:36.043 --> 00:49:37.284
salary cover or anything

00:49:37.304 --> 00:49:38.144
like that so he came

00:49:38.164 --> 00:49:39.005
forward to us to say look

00:49:39.025 --> 00:49:39.905
is there anything you can

00:49:39.925 --> 00:49:40.786
do to help me out we're

00:49:40.806 --> 00:49:41.706
going to be out for a good

00:49:41.786 --> 00:49:44.329
six months um spoke to us

00:49:44.369 --> 00:49:45.489
we went out to see him had

00:49:45.510 --> 00:49:46.771
a good conversation and so

00:49:46.871 --> 00:49:48.172
on so we ended up paying

00:49:48.192 --> 00:49:49.112
his mortgage for the last

00:49:49.152 --> 00:49:51.054
six months and paying his shopping bill

00:49:52.623 --> 00:49:54.606
So we're talking actually

00:49:54.666 --> 00:49:55.686
where it's needed.

00:49:55.806 --> 00:49:56.047
You know,

00:49:56.086 --> 00:49:58.210
this guy is now back on his feet.

00:49:58.230 --> 00:49:59.710
He's now getting back into work.

00:50:00.172 --> 00:50:01.032
We've helped him and his

00:50:01.092 --> 00:50:03.195
family get back where they need to be.

00:50:03.235 --> 00:50:03.356
Now,

00:50:03.376 --> 00:50:07.280
this guy is a great lad and we haven't

00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:08.061
done it for this reason.

00:50:08.101 --> 00:50:09.222
He's a fundraiser as well.

00:50:09.262 --> 00:50:11.043
But he he he will he will

00:50:11.103 --> 00:50:12.606
bring back to us in terms

00:50:12.666 --> 00:50:13.327
of being a mate.

00:50:14.264 --> 00:50:15.385
and offering services out to

00:50:15.425 --> 00:50:16.266
anybody else that goes

00:50:16.286 --> 00:50:17.106
through something similar.

00:50:17.427 --> 00:50:19.327
He will bring that back over

00:50:19.367 --> 00:50:21.027
and over and over and over again to us.

00:50:21.568 --> 00:50:23.329
But the key thing here is

00:50:23.469 --> 00:50:24.750
we've gone into that person,

00:50:24.969 --> 00:50:26.070
we've figured out that

00:50:26.090 --> 00:50:26.990
there's a problem here,

00:50:27.351 --> 00:50:28.530
and without that support,

00:50:29.311 --> 00:50:30.411
his last six months would

00:50:30.431 --> 00:50:31.813
have been pretty much

00:50:33.168 --> 00:50:33.987
Well, I don't know.

00:50:34.128 --> 00:50:34.648
I don't know where his

00:50:34.688 --> 00:50:35.568
mental health would have gone.

00:50:35.889 --> 00:50:37.248
I don't know where his mindset would have.

00:50:37.349 --> 00:50:38.989
Do you know what I mean?

00:50:39.469 --> 00:50:40.230
I mean,

00:50:40.250 --> 00:50:42.150
that's just like one particular

00:50:42.170 --> 00:50:42.750
thing we've done.

00:50:43.871 --> 00:50:44.911
We had somebody come forward

00:50:44.951 --> 00:50:46.170
that needed a CT scan

00:50:46.851 --> 00:50:48.032
because her husband fell off a wall,

00:50:48.052 --> 00:50:49.211
smashed his head and had a

00:50:49.271 --> 00:50:51.152
fear and lost his lorry driver,

00:50:51.172 --> 00:50:51.853
lost his license,

00:50:52.813 --> 00:50:54.432
couldn't afford to get a CT scan.

00:50:54.512 --> 00:50:56.454
So we paid for the CT scan to happen.

00:50:58.356 --> 00:50:59.036
We've put people,

00:50:59.056 --> 00:51:00.036
we put a group of lads

00:51:00.077 --> 00:51:01.157
through boxing school who

00:51:01.217 --> 00:51:02.237
all suffered from sort of

00:51:02.577 --> 00:51:07.420
ADHD and other issues out in Wantage.

00:51:08.740 --> 00:51:08.981
You know,

00:51:09.021 --> 00:51:10.342
we put these lads through summer

00:51:10.422 --> 00:51:11.141
camp effectively.

00:51:11.181 --> 00:51:12.342
So every day they went to

00:51:12.402 --> 00:51:13.864
something that gave the

00:51:13.903 --> 00:51:16.485
parents a level of a break.

00:51:16.585 --> 00:51:19.166
And it also gave the lads some, you know,

00:51:19.226 --> 00:51:20.487
stimulation, some, you know,

00:51:20.507 --> 00:51:23.648
some just good feedback and

00:51:23.688 --> 00:51:24.648
good experiences.

00:51:25.269 --> 00:51:26.391
So it can be anything,

00:51:26.451 --> 00:51:28.172
but the key thing there is

00:51:28.653 --> 00:51:29.675
it's where it's needed,

00:51:30.115 --> 00:51:30.976
not where it should go.

00:51:32.548 --> 00:51:34.369
And instantly it's straight to the source,

00:51:34.429 --> 00:51:34.771
isn't it?

00:51:34.831 --> 00:51:35.911
And that's a key one.

00:51:36.190 --> 00:51:36.512
I mean,

00:51:36.811 --> 00:51:37.952
that was picking up on one of the

00:51:37.992 --> 00:51:39.434
things that was blowing my

00:51:39.474 --> 00:51:40.594
mind when I looked at the

00:51:40.634 --> 00:51:42.034
website ahead of this

00:51:42.094 --> 00:51:43.056
discussion is that

00:51:43.536 --> 00:51:44.617
obviously we started with

00:51:44.637 --> 00:51:45.938
the more obvious side that

00:51:45.978 --> 00:51:49.420
was where you are that mate to chat with,

00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:50.800
that mate to, you know,

00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:51.842
give the clip around the head,

00:51:51.902 --> 00:51:52.983
which I love that Rachel

00:51:53.003 --> 00:51:54.483
Weaven said that she can do that.

00:51:54.563 --> 00:51:56.545
That's why you're mine and John's mate,

00:51:56.625 --> 00:51:57.065
Rachel.

00:51:57.105 --> 00:51:57.425
Yeah.

00:51:57.465 --> 00:51:57.626
Yeah.

00:51:59.947 --> 00:52:01.228
That's why she is a good friend,

00:52:01.248 --> 00:52:03.829
because we know she would.

00:52:04.409 --> 00:52:06.791
But it is also the fact that,

00:52:07.952 --> 00:52:08.932
you just used examples,

00:52:08.992 --> 00:52:10.353
paid the mortgage for that period,

00:52:10.373 --> 00:52:11.675
paid for a CT scan,

00:52:11.735 --> 00:52:13.295
is that you do that mate

00:52:13.335 --> 00:52:14.456
that sort of like helps out,

00:52:14.496 --> 00:52:15.418
puts a hand in the pocket.

00:52:15.478 --> 00:52:17.920
Now, how does that work?

00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:19.340
I don't know how much you're able to say,

00:52:19.380 --> 00:52:20.922
but how does the mechanics

00:52:20.981 --> 00:52:21.981
of that work for people to

00:52:22.021 --> 00:52:23.103
understand best mate

00:52:23.123 --> 00:52:24.403
support in that way as well?

00:52:25.103 --> 00:52:27.346
Well, I suppose it's quite difficult

00:52:28.268 --> 00:52:29.309
take every case as an

00:52:29.369 --> 00:52:31.030
individual case you know

00:52:31.269 --> 00:52:32.391
people do reach out and we

00:52:32.411 --> 00:52:33.371
have to look at what the

00:52:33.391 --> 00:52:34.952
scenarios are what the

00:52:34.992 --> 00:52:36.213
situations are stuff so

00:52:36.313 --> 00:52:36.913
obviously we've got the

00:52:36.932 --> 00:52:38.213
board of trustees and so on

00:52:38.253 --> 00:52:39.614
so you know people come

00:52:39.675 --> 00:52:41.516
forward we speak to the

00:52:41.536 --> 00:52:42.936
trustees there's some stuff

00:52:42.956 --> 00:52:43.918
going on in the background

00:52:43.958 --> 00:52:45.219
now which gives us certain

00:52:45.259 --> 00:52:48.940
parameters of who who who

00:52:49.041 --> 00:52:52.063
is legible for and so on so

00:52:52.083 --> 00:52:52.943
we're just working those

00:52:53.003 --> 00:52:53.884
out to be a little bit you

00:52:53.903 --> 00:52:54.545
know try to be as

00:52:55.539 --> 00:52:56.641
there's lots of legislation

00:52:56.661 --> 00:52:57.561
about running a chair and

00:52:57.581 --> 00:52:58.302
you've got to make sure

00:52:58.322 --> 00:52:59.382
you're doing things correctly.

00:52:59.483 --> 00:53:01.664
So those things are all

00:53:01.704 --> 00:53:02.465
being put in place.

00:53:02.885 --> 00:53:04.327
We've got CRM systems going

00:53:04.347 --> 00:53:06.027
in and stuff to help us achieve that.

00:53:06.469 --> 00:53:07.690
But I think at the end of the day,

00:53:07.730 --> 00:53:10.791
so if we go back to what the concept is,

00:53:11.413 --> 00:53:13.153
which is we will hook you

00:53:13.193 --> 00:53:13.934
up with somebody that's

00:53:13.974 --> 00:53:15.356
gone through a similar situation.

00:53:17.237 --> 00:53:17.818
We've had,

00:53:19.385 --> 00:53:20.887
Probably, I mean, we're only young,

00:53:20.927 --> 00:53:23.811
but probably five to six

00:53:23.990 --> 00:53:24.972
different people that have

00:53:25.012 --> 00:53:27.394
simply spoken to a mate and

00:53:27.414 --> 00:53:28.255
they haven't needed

00:53:28.436 --> 00:53:29.456
anything else but that.

00:53:30.557 --> 00:53:30.757
Yeah.

00:53:31.579 --> 00:53:34.481
So we go back to don't suffer in silence.

00:53:35.182 --> 00:53:37.945
Reach out, speak, talk to somebody.

00:53:37.985 --> 00:53:40.068
You know, men, we're terrible.

00:53:40.873 --> 00:53:42.394
This isn't just a male charity.

00:53:42.414 --> 00:53:44.215
This is for absolutely everyone.

00:53:44.396 --> 00:53:45.317
Lots of people suffer.

00:53:45.617 --> 00:53:46.438
The workplace.

00:53:46.458 --> 00:53:47.398
We work in recruitment.

00:53:48.398 --> 00:53:49.539
You go into the works and

00:53:49.559 --> 00:53:50.480
there's people suffering

00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:51.661
different areas of different things.

00:53:52.021 --> 00:53:52.802
Sometimes they don't want to

00:53:52.842 --> 00:53:54.041
talk to their HR manager.

00:53:54.081 --> 00:53:54.943
Sometimes they just need

00:53:54.963 --> 00:53:55.943
something to reach out to.

00:53:56.403 --> 00:53:59.166
But the key thing there is, for me,

00:53:59.706 --> 00:54:00.947
what BestMakes is all about,

00:54:01.007 --> 00:54:02.168
it's that connection to

00:54:02.228 --> 00:54:03.128
speak to somebody.

00:54:03.869 --> 00:54:04.688
I'm going through this.

00:54:04.708 --> 00:54:05.449
I'm going to ring John

00:54:05.469 --> 00:54:06.530
because he knows damn well

00:54:06.570 --> 00:54:07.371
what I'm going through.

00:54:07.670 --> 00:54:08.291
we're gonna have a little

00:54:08.311 --> 00:54:09.371
bit of support from there

00:54:09.813 --> 00:54:11.173
and it helps but like I say

00:54:11.213 --> 00:54:12.153
you know some people some

00:54:12.173 --> 00:54:12.695
people have those

00:54:12.735 --> 00:54:13.635
conversations and they're

00:54:13.655 --> 00:54:15.536
like their mindset changes

00:54:15.797 --> 00:54:16.858
their attitude towards it

00:54:16.878 --> 00:54:18.278
changes there hang on a

00:54:18.318 --> 00:54:19.398
minute he's got through

00:54:19.418 --> 00:54:20.480
there by just doing that if

00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.380
I just put that in place

00:54:23.061 --> 00:54:23.963
and people go away and they

00:54:24.003 --> 00:54:25.163
get it you know and it's

00:54:25.423 --> 00:54:26.623
it's fantastic but then of

00:54:26.684 --> 00:54:28.706
course the key thing is is

00:54:28.746 --> 00:54:30.226
the signposting if it's needed

00:54:31.884 --> 00:54:32.804
Which more and more,

00:54:32.844 --> 00:54:34.465
and I'll come to John in a second,

00:54:34.505 --> 00:54:35.824
but first of all, sticking with you,

00:54:35.885 --> 00:54:36.346
Geoff,

00:54:36.565 --> 00:54:38.405
and you did open it up by saying this,

00:54:38.606 --> 00:54:41.047
listening to John's part of the interview,

00:54:41.666 --> 00:54:43.148
is that the synergy between

00:54:43.168 --> 00:54:45.088
the two of you is so obvious, isn't it,

00:54:45.108 --> 00:54:45.989
in all honesty?

00:54:45.989 --> 00:54:48.547
100%, you know,

00:54:48.606 --> 00:54:49.588
one of the other things we do.

00:54:49.628 --> 00:54:51.228
So we go along in life as

00:54:51.268 --> 00:54:52.090
best mates and we're

00:54:52.130 --> 00:54:54.190
recruiting mates all the time,

00:54:54.231 --> 00:54:55.052
people which have got their

00:54:55.092 --> 00:54:56.693
experiences as its own

00:54:56.753 --> 00:54:57.592
challenges because people

00:54:58.333 --> 00:54:59.715
have to want to come forward for that.

00:55:00.335 --> 00:55:01.275
But, of course,

00:55:01.315 --> 00:55:03.496
we also need those service partners,

00:55:03.536 --> 00:55:04.818
those service providers

00:55:05.438 --> 00:55:07.699
that meet everything that we do.

00:55:07.800 --> 00:55:09.601
And when I met with John, you know,

00:55:09.641 --> 00:55:12.282
and started explaining what we were about,

00:55:12.322 --> 00:55:13.844
what we were trying to achieve, you know,

00:55:13.925 --> 00:55:14.204
I think...

00:55:14.804 --> 00:55:15.945
I still get goose pimples

00:55:15.985 --> 00:55:16.867
now talking about it.

00:55:17.047 --> 00:55:19.449
We're a few months in of this thing,

00:55:20.369 --> 00:55:23.251
and it resonates with so many people.

00:55:24.172 --> 00:55:25.152
You start talking.

00:55:25.373 --> 00:55:27.434
I mean, I've been in rooms,

00:55:27.454 --> 00:55:28.755
networking rooms and stuff,

00:55:29.275 --> 00:55:30.496
and I've had people turn up

00:55:31.538 --> 00:55:32.318
just to talk to me.

00:55:33.123 --> 00:55:34.242
and start opening up about

00:55:34.282 --> 00:55:35.123
what their issues are.

00:55:35.583 --> 00:55:36.543
And I'm like, right, hang on a minute.

00:55:36.563 --> 00:55:37.885
Cause I'm not that right person.

00:55:37.905 --> 00:55:40.505
I need to put you with said person.

00:55:40.525 --> 00:55:41.106
Do you know what I mean?

00:55:41.525 --> 00:55:44.927
But it just starts to unravels and it's,

00:55:45.168 --> 00:55:47.829
it's just, we all know, you know,

00:55:48.088 --> 00:55:49.028
not just mental health,

00:55:49.449 --> 00:55:50.730
lots of stuff going on there.

00:55:50.750 --> 00:55:51.630
People are not talking.

00:55:51.670 --> 00:55:53.811
We all know that it's a big, big thing.

00:55:54.400 --> 00:55:56.422
And now myself, Carl and Ian,

00:55:56.461 --> 00:55:57.702
who are all the best mates,

00:55:58.184 --> 00:56:00.365
we sit there and on a daily basis,

00:56:01.005 --> 00:56:01.666
it sounds awful,

00:56:01.686 --> 00:56:02.487
we talk to people which

00:56:02.507 --> 00:56:03.168
have got problems.

00:56:03.969 --> 00:56:05.911
But if we can change one

00:56:05.971 --> 00:56:07.552
person's life at a time and

00:56:07.592 --> 00:56:08.653
we can make one person

00:56:08.713 --> 00:56:10.715
better every single time,

00:56:10.876 --> 00:56:12.777
then we're doing what we set out to do.

00:56:12.838 --> 00:56:13.798
And that's literally to

00:56:13.838 --> 00:56:15.000
change people's lives and

00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:15.701
try to fix them.

00:56:18.114 --> 00:56:18.376
Yeah,

00:56:18.456 --> 00:56:20.918
and some of those can be practical or

00:56:20.958 --> 00:56:21.938
physical things, can't it?

00:56:22.018 --> 00:56:22.418
I mean,

00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:24.981
I remember I went through a bad

00:56:25.021 --> 00:56:27.103
time financially,

00:56:27.143 --> 00:56:28.884
and this is just one that

00:56:28.923 --> 00:56:31.126
springs to mind as a practical example,

00:56:31.746 --> 00:56:32.626
is that because I went

00:56:32.666 --> 00:56:34.389
through that experience of

00:56:35.128 --> 00:56:36.250
trying to deal with it in

00:56:36.309 --> 00:56:37.791
my head and the enormity of

00:56:37.851 --> 00:56:39.972
it as one big mush, but when I then went,

00:56:40.052 --> 00:56:40.233
right,

00:56:40.273 --> 00:56:41.635
I've got to get this down on a

00:56:41.695 --> 00:56:43.675
spreadsheet and work out everything,

00:56:44.516 --> 00:56:46.137
that's there and by when and

00:56:46.217 --> 00:56:47.179
what can be done with each

00:56:47.278 --> 00:56:48.179
one suddenly you're there

00:56:48.239 --> 00:56:50.360
and go actually there is a

00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.543
way out of this it now

00:56:52.623 --> 00:56:53.923
makes a lot more sense and

00:56:54.043 --> 00:56:55.545
and it's so easy to say

00:56:55.605 --> 00:56:56.626
that but when you're in the

00:56:56.686 --> 00:56:59.027
middle of that hell and you

00:56:59.067 --> 00:57:00.728
can't sleep it's it's

00:57:00.807 --> 00:57:02.028
making you sweat it's

00:57:02.088 --> 00:57:03.690
making you not eat properly

00:57:03.771 --> 00:57:05.170
it's you know or drink too

00:57:05.231 --> 00:57:06.211
much whatever it might be

00:57:06.693 --> 00:57:07.652
because you've got this big

00:57:07.693 --> 00:57:09.074
mess in your head it was

00:57:09.114 --> 00:57:10.275
that piece of advice that

00:57:10.315 --> 00:57:11.396
someone gave me and I've

00:57:11.416 --> 00:57:12.597
given to others since

00:57:13.257 --> 00:57:14.438
is that the power of a

00:57:14.498 --> 00:57:15.717
spreadsheet in that one to

00:57:15.777 --> 00:57:18.579
just break everything down is a big one.

00:57:18.820 --> 00:57:19.380
And actually,

00:57:19.420 --> 00:57:20.641
I would say that's led on to

00:57:20.721 --> 00:57:22.521
other things further down the line,

00:57:22.581 --> 00:57:23.483
is that when there's been

00:57:23.782 --> 00:57:24.543
other things that have

00:57:24.563 --> 00:57:26.824
become a mess of what to me

00:57:26.864 --> 00:57:30.065
I think is one big problem, if you can go,

00:57:30.085 --> 00:57:33.467
you know,

00:57:33.588 --> 00:57:37.949
what's the app that you can meditate to?

00:57:38.050 --> 00:57:38.371
Mind...

00:57:39.315 --> 00:57:40.875
Yeah, yeah.

00:57:41.615 --> 00:57:42.655
I forgot what it's called now.

00:57:42.695 --> 00:57:43.715
I'll have a look in a minute

00:57:43.755 --> 00:57:44.536
to remind myself.

00:57:44.996 --> 00:57:46.077
But one of the big ones that

00:57:46.117 --> 00:57:47.478
that taught me was to break

00:57:47.518 --> 00:57:49.538
down each of the individual

00:57:49.557 --> 00:57:50.498
things that are worrying

00:57:50.518 --> 00:57:51.539
you or troubling you.

00:57:52.378 --> 00:57:54.420
And you suddenly go, oh, actually, right,

00:57:54.480 --> 00:57:56.059
that I can't do anything about.

00:57:56.420 --> 00:57:58.201
That I can do this and it will change it.

00:57:58.280 --> 00:57:59.880
That isn't as bad as it feels,

00:58:00.242 --> 00:58:01.822
just feels that way because

00:58:02.481 --> 00:58:04.342
of everything else that sat there.

00:58:05.182 --> 00:58:06.623
And that was, again,

00:58:06.684 --> 00:58:07.704
just some piece of advice.

00:58:07.744 --> 00:58:08.684
So there's some very

00:58:08.744 --> 00:58:10.465
practical things that can be done as well,

00:58:10.525 --> 00:58:10.885
isn't there?

00:58:12.666 --> 00:58:14.327
My wife is watching, and my wife,

00:58:14.347 --> 00:58:16.389
thank you, Claire, has said headspace.

00:58:16.449 --> 00:58:17.889
That's the one.

00:58:18.369 --> 00:58:19.911
Rachel's put another good one on.

00:58:20.030 --> 00:58:21.110
Calm is another one.

00:58:21.871 --> 00:58:22.112
Yeah.

00:58:22.371 --> 00:58:25.512
So I think you just saying that, Chris,

00:58:26.574 --> 00:58:28.735
is your perfect example there.

00:58:28.775 --> 00:58:29.715
If ever you wanted to come

00:58:29.795 --> 00:58:30.635
forward to be a mate,

00:58:31.402 --> 00:58:32.403
And you wanted to say, listen,

00:58:32.443 --> 00:58:33.364
I went for a financial

00:58:33.385 --> 00:58:34.826
thing and I'm happy to speak to people.

00:58:35.206 --> 00:58:35.666
There you go.

00:58:35.686 --> 00:58:37.688
That conversation you've just had there,

00:58:37.807 --> 00:58:39.128
just a little bit of advice.

00:58:39.489 --> 00:58:41.670
You know what we're like as men, women,

00:58:41.851 --> 00:58:42.871
we sit there and we think

00:58:42.972 --> 00:58:45.273
we know what you think, you know,

00:58:45.293 --> 00:58:45.773
the answer.

00:58:45.793 --> 00:58:46.074
You know,

00:58:46.454 --> 00:58:48.916
I always used I gave up smoking

00:58:48.916 --> 00:58:49.657
12 years ago.

00:58:50.438 --> 00:58:52.139
I gave up smoking because I read a book.

00:58:52.378 --> 00:58:53.440
I read the Alan Carr's Easy

00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:56.782
Way to Stop Smoking on 28th of November,

00:58:56.782 --> 00:58:57.463
12 years ago,

00:58:57.543 --> 00:58:58.864
day after my wedding anniversary.

00:58:59.693 --> 00:59:00.393
I'll put the book down

00:59:00.413 --> 00:59:01.153
because I've finished it

00:59:01.173 --> 00:59:02.614
and I've never touched another cigarette.

00:59:04.195 --> 00:59:04.715
Simple as.

00:59:05.376 --> 00:59:06.637
So as far as I'm concerned,

00:59:07.117 --> 00:59:08.177
we all go around thinking

00:59:08.217 --> 00:59:09.298
we know what the answers are.

00:59:09.318 --> 00:59:10.719
You know, you're in their own headspace,

00:59:11.099 --> 00:59:12.161
as your wife just put that.

00:59:12.201 --> 00:59:14.322
But if you can then gather a

00:59:14.382 --> 00:59:15.543
bit of knowledge from

00:59:15.623 --> 00:59:16.503
somebody that says

00:59:16.563 --> 00:59:17.543
something to you that goes,

00:59:17.563 --> 00:59:19.244
I hadn't thought about that.

00:59:20.525 --> 00:59:21.827
Suddenly it opens a door.

00:59:22.067 --> 00:59:23.367
Suddenly you're moving forward.

00:59:23.748 --> 00:59:25.329
Suddenly life starts to get better.

00:59:25.815 --> 00:59:27.559
You know, and that's where we are.

00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:29.523
Just getting people's lives

00:59:29.583 --> 00:59:30.344
and making them better.

00:59:31.067 --> 00:59:32.088
Hadn't thought of that or

00:59:32.108 --> 00:59:33.409
hadn't thought of it that way.

00:59:33.469 --> 00:59:34.648
I think that's the big one.

00:59:35.210 --> 00:59:36.210
Yeah, definitely.

00:59:36.831 --> 00:59:37.570
Rachel's just,

00:59:37.610 --> 00:59:39.592
she's just put well-volunteered Chris.

00:59:44.876 --> 00:59:46.197
But John, you know,

00:59:46.237 --> 00:59:48.117
flicking over to you is that, you know,

00:59:48.177 --> 00:59:49.338
as I said to Jeff there,

00:59:49.438 --> 00:59:52.460
is that the synergy between you guys,

00:59:52.981 --> 00:59:54.623
even more so now after, you know,

00:59:54.663 --> 00:59:55.822
being part of this discussion,

00:59:56.804 --> 00:59:58.025
it's just obvious, isn't it?

00:59:58.791 --> 00:59:59.411
Yeah, definitely.

00:59:59.452 --> 00:59:59.753
And again,

00:59:59.773 --> 01:00:01.072
that's what attracted me to

01:00:01.092 --> 01:00:03.574
obviously speak to Jeff and

01:00:03.795 --> 01:00:05.614
find out more about what, you know,

01:00:05.655 --> 01:00:06.775
what Best Mates is about,

01:00:06.835 --> 01:00:09.777
because it's fantastic, again,

01:00:09.818 --> 01:00:11.277
that people can have normal

01:00:11.378 --> 01:00:13.219
conversations with those

01:00:13.259 --> 01:00:15.320
who have been there, you know,

01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:16.740
and maybe can offer some

01:00:16.820 --> 01:00:18.262
things to support a person.

01:00:18.442 --> 01:00:19.161
But, you know, again,

01:00:19.382 --> 01:00:20.463
for somebody who might need

01:00:20.523 --> 01:00:22.403
something a little bit deeper and

01:00:22.963 --> 01:00:23.684
you know it's great that

01:00:23.704 --> 01:00:24.965
then I'm aligned with best

01:00:25.025 --> 01:00:26.405
mates because then I can be

01:00:26.465 --> 01:00:27.945
that support you know that

01:00:28.266 --> 01:00:29.067
next level because not

01:00:29.126 --> 01:00:29.746
everybody needs

01:00:29.786 --> 01:00:31.788
professional support yeah

01:00:31.907 --> 01:00:32.867
but be able to kind of

01:00:32.927 --> 01:00:34.789
offer that next layer um

01:00:35.708 --> 01:00:36.750
you know kind of a

01:00:36.809 --> 01:00:38.789
no-brainer I think when me

01:00:38.829 --> 01:00:39.891
and jeff had the conversation

01:00:41.275 --> 01:00:42.376
And I like it because,

01:00:43.976 --> 01:00:44.936
especially us men are

01:00:44.956 --> 01:00:45.958
probably the worst at this,

01:00:46.038 --> 01:00:48.619
is that our best friends in

01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:51.201
the real world might not be

01:00:51.882 --> 01:00:54.402
perfect to go to because we're proud.

01:00:55.164 --> 01:00:56.204
We're probably being stupid

01:00:56.244 --> 01:00:57.304
and not doing them justice

01:00:57.364 --> 01:00:58.646
because they would be there for us.

01:00:58.686 --> 01:00:59.427
But you kind of go, no,

01:00:59.447 --> 01:01:00.347
I can't go to them about

01:01:00.387 --> 01:01:01.688
this or whatever.

01:01:01.967 --> 01:01:03.309
But the biggest one is that

01:01:03.728 --> 01:01:05.010
life gets in the way.

01:01:05.030 --> 01:01:07.190
I used it in another context earlier,

01:01:07.371 --> 01:01:07.672
is that

01:01:08.211 --> 01:01:08.692
We're busy.

01:01:08.813 --> 01:01:09.672
We're always busy.

01:01:09.693 --> 01:01:10.132
And you go, well,

01:01:10.152 --> 01:01:10.893
I can't trouble them

01:01:10.934 --> 01:01:11.733
because they're busy.

01:01:11.793 --> 01:01:12.715
Whereas if you're going to

01:01:12.755 --> 01:01:14.076
this neutral mate,

01:01:14.795 --> 01:01:15.856
it means you have the same

01:01:15.896 --> 01:01:16.978
level of discussion from

01:01:17.038 --> 01:01:18.619
someone that's experienced it.

01:01:19.778 --> 01:01:20.659
And it's going to help you

01:01:20.980 --> 01:01:22.201
to open the door to the

01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:23.681
right sequence of thoughts.

01:01:24.574 --> 01:01:24.994
Definitely.

01:01:25.215 --> 01:01:26.215
I think sometimes we feel

01:01:26.235 --> 01:01:27.155
we're going to burden those

01:01:27.215 --> 01:01:29.438
closest to them by having a

01:01:29.478 --> 01:01:31.219
conversation or we're going

01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:33.141
to be judged or they're

01:01:33.161 --> 01:01:33.900
going to have an opinion.

01:01:33.942 --> 01:01:34.981
A lot of it's perception.

01:01:35.041 --> 01:01:36.083
We can't have a conversation

01:01:36.123 --> 01:01:36.764
with our friends because

01:01:36.784 --> 01:01:37.664
they're our friends.

01:01:37.724 --> 01:01:38.664
We go down the pub and we

01:01:38.684 --> 01:01:39.786
just talk about happy stuff

01:01:39.826 --> 01:01:40.266
no matter what.

01:01:41.286 --> 01:01:42.427
Yeah.

01:01:42.467 --> 01:01:44.409
Things are going on, you know.

01:01:45.291 --> 01:01:46.231
But when you can kind of

01:01:46.711 --> 01:01:47.672
hold a safe space.

01:01:48.771 --> 01:01:50.012
somebody to actually tell

01:01:50.032 --> 01:01:51.094
you exactly how they're

01:01:51.114 --> 01:01:52.416
thinking and how they're

01:01:52.456 --> 01:01:53.496
feeling and then be able to

01:01:53.556 --> 01:01:54.898
support them on you know in

01:01:54.938 --> 01:01:57.000
that level it's it's it's

01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:58.460
life-changing and it truly

01:01:58.521 --> 01:01:59.882
is life-changing as we know

01:01:59.902 --> 01:02:02.164
you know we're three men on

01:02:02.184 --> 01:02:03.425
the conversation here but

01:02:03.786 --> 01:02:05.467
it saves saves people's lives

01:02:06.112 --> 01:02:06.472
It does.

01:02:06.592 --> 01:02:10.492
I mean, I saw Jim Carrey make a phrase,

01:02:11.313 --> 01:02:11.614
you know,

01:02:12.094 --> 01:02:13.014
said something that really

01:02:13.074 --> 01:02:14.795
resonated with me, as we know,

01:02:14.894 --> 01:02:16.675
is that my profession and

01:02:16.715 --> 01:02:18.615
my personality is like, yay,

01:02:18.655 --> 01:02:20.476
let's all have fun and let's entertain,

01:02:20.516 --> 01:02:21.496
whether I'm on a mic or

01:02:21.536 --> 01:02:22.697
just in a room with people.

01:02:23.396 --> 01:02:25.358
And Jim Carrey's one was that.

01:02:26.811 --> 01:02:29.432
True depression can be where

01:02:29.512 --> 01:02:31.074
your brain just suddenly says,

01:02:31.333 --> 01:02:33.054
screw off with this

01:02:33.173 --> 01:02:35.074
caricature you've made me

01:02:35.114 --> 01:02:36.056
portray to the world.

01:02:36.235 --> 01:02:37.335
I cannot deal with this

01:02:37.396 --> 01:02:38.856
caricature you've made me

01:02:38.896 --> 01:02:40.777
portray to the world anymore.

01:02:40.856 --> 01:02:43.018
And that means that it

01:02:43.137 --> 01:02:44.278
almost becomes the tears of

01:02:44.318 --> 01:02:45.438
a clown if you're not careful.

01:02:45.478 --> 01:02:46.679
Whereas this mate that we

01:02:46.699 --> 01:02:48.280
can be given gets rid of that.

01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:49.800
Oh, but my best mate,

01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:51.621
I've still got to be that smiley, happy,

01:02:52.161 --> 01:02:53.702
strong, confident person.

01:02:53.902 --> 01:02:55.262
You don't need to be anymore with them.

01:02:56.235 --> 01:02:56.655
Exactly.

01:02:56.675 --> 01:02:59.197
And even what I do for a for a profession,

01:02:59.217 --> 01:03:01.181
you know, if if a client says to me,

01:03:01.221 --> 01:03:01.860
how are you, John?

01:03:01.900 --> 01:03:03.063
And I say, do you know what?

01:03:03.083 --> 01:03:05.105
I'm actually a little bit rubbish today.

01:03:05.125 --> 01:03:07.086
I've had it many times when

01:03:07.126 --> 01:03:08.248
a client has said to me, hang on,

01:03:08.307 --> 01:03:09.590
you you can't be rubbish.

01:03:10.150 --> 01:03:11.110
You're helping.

01:03:11.532 --> 01:03:12.972
You know, you're supposed to help all us.

01:03:13.574 --> 01:03:13.853
You know,

01:03:13.893 --> 01:03:16.257
and even I even I find it again as men.

01:03:17.128 --> 01:03:18.809
You know, young children at home,

01:03:18.829 --> 01:03:19.670
do you really want to go

01:03:19.690 --> 01:03:21.791
home and burden your, you know,

01:03:22.030 --> 01:03:23.771
if your day's rubbish on your children?

01:03:23.831 --> 01:03:24.552
Because you just want to

01:03:24.612 --> 01:03:26.693
kind of be this person that

01:03:28.155 --> 01:03:30.516
you want other to perceive that you are,

01:03:31.597 --> 01:03:31.838
you know...

01:03:33.423 --> 01:03:33.744
Dad,

01:03:33.923 --> 01:03:35.085
you don't want to be burdening on

01:03:36.465 --> 01:03:38.485
children with how you're really feeling.

01:03:38.686 --> 01:03:39.405
Same as your friends.

01:03:39.425 --> 01:03:40.346
Do you really want to be burdened?

01:03:40.365 --> 01:03:41.405
You know, I wear my heart on a sleeve.

01:03:41.465 --> 01:03:43.007
I'm sure we all do, you know.

01:03:43.626 --> 01:03:45.867
But for some, it really is a struggle.

01:03:45.967 --> 01:03:47.367
That's why best mates, again,

01:03:47.407 --> 01:03:48.228
putting somebody in a

01:03:48.289 --> 01:03:50.068
situation who's been in a situation,

01:03:50.088 --> 01:03:50.849
you know, that stigma,

01:03:51.188 --> 01:03:52.010
there is no stigma.

01:03:52.030 --> 01:03:53.150
Because you are being

01:03:53.170 --> 01:03:54.130
matched with somebody who

01:03:54.871 --> 01:03:56.811
might not know exactly how you're feeling,

01:03:56.831 --> 01:03:57.952
but they have definite

01:03:58.271 --> 01:04:00.532
evidence through their own experience.

01:04:01.172 --> 01:04:02.592
And there's a massive power in that.

01:04:03.510 --> 01:04:04.610
Yeah, they're very close.

01:04:04.670 --> 01:04:06.731
And that's why, you know, Jeff,

01:04:06.791 --> 01:04:07.711
we're really just sort of

01:04:07.771 --> 01:04:09.132
backing up where you opened

01:04:09.192 --> 01:04:10.393
up this conversation about

01:04:10.452 --> 01:04:12.092
your own challenges that you went to.

01:04:12.132 --> 01:04:13.514
Very personal insight there.

01:04:14.213 --> 01:04:15.574
And it's kind of like, yeah,

01:04:15.635 --> 01:04:17.715
the detail might be different,

01:04:18.416 --> 01:04:20.275
but a lot of us go through something.

01:04:20.335 --> 01:04:22.876
And this is where it really helps.

01:04:22.936 --> 01:04:23.197
I mean,

01:04:23.257 --> 01:04:24.938
hopefully that we did it justice in

01:04:24.958 --> 01:04:25.998
the way we were discussing

01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:26.679
it there as well.

01:04:26.699 --> 01:04:27.018
Yeah.

01:04:27.931 --> 01:04:29.733
Yeah, no, exactly that.

01:04:30.074 --> 01:04:31.094
It's just opening those doors.

01:04:31.155 --> 01:04:32.277
It's opening that mindset.

01:04:32.697 --> 01:04:35.300
It's opening that room for improvement.

01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:36.942
How do I get, where do I go?

01:04:36.961 --> 01:04:38.864
How can this get better?

01:04:39.123 --> 01:04:40.385
It can, you know,

01:04:41.065 --> 01:04:42.126
don't care what you're going through.

01:04:42.606 --> 01:04:43.507
Don't care who it is,

01:04:43.668 --> 01:04:44.969
whatever your situation is,

01:04:45.449 --> 01:04:46.351
it can get better.

01:04:46.692 --> 01:04:47.813
You just need to be hooked

01:04:47.873 --> 01:04:48.713
up with the right people.

01:04:49.226 --> 01:04:50.007
that are prepared to have

01:04:50.047 --> 01:04:51.286
those conversations and

01:04:51.367 --> 01:04:53.027
help you to go and do what

01:04:53.047 --> 01:04:53.668
you need to do.

01:04:54.068 --> 01:04:55.170
And I think John said at the

01:04:55.190 --> 01:04:56.269
beginning of his conversation,

01:04:56.309 --> 01:04:58.411
you get up in the morning

01:04:58.672 --> 01:04:59.652
and you have a choice.

01:05:00.523 --> 01:05:01.583
You know, very difficult,

01:05:01.744 --> 01:05:02.885
very difficult sometimes

01:05:02.905 --> 01:05:03.786
depending what you're going

01:05:03.806 --> 01:05:04.706
through to make the right

01:05:04.746 --> 01:05:06.588
choice to turn the right head on.

01:05:06.648 --> 01:05:07.389
But then when you've got

01:05:07.469 --> 01:05:09.289
somebody alongside you that

01:05:09.349 --> 01:05:10.291
understands that you can

01:05:10.331 --> 01:05:11.391
reach out to and you see

01:05:11.452 --> 01:05:14.614
it's physically made a difference,

01:05:15.255 --> 01:05:17.157
it makes that whole process

01:05:17.536 --> 01:05:18.498
that little bit easier.

01:05:18.938 --> 01:05:20.438
And even if it's one step at a time,

01:05:20.478 --> 01:05:21.500
you know, small steps,

01:05:21.900 --> 01:05:22.880
but as long as those doors

01:05:22.920 --> 01:05:23.621
are opening and you're

01:05:23.641 --> 01:05:24.742
going in the right direction,

01:05:24.762 --> 01:05:25.903
things are starting to get

01:05:25.923 --> 01:05:26.784
a little bit better,

01:05:27.105 --> 01:05:28.045
you'll start to feel it.

01:05:28.646 --> 01:05:29.586
And that's what we're there to do.

01:05:31.010 --> 01:05:32.210
And I'm going to put again up there,

01:05:32.271 --> 01:05:35.233
bestmates.org, www.bestmates.org.

01:05:35.313 --> 01:05:38.315
You'll be able to find out more.

01:05:39.016 --> 01:05:39.896
Now, obviously,

01:05:39.936 --> 01:05:41.197
that includes if people

01:05:41.257 --> 01:05:43.219
want to reach out and they

01:05:43.260 --> 01:05:45.001
need support themselves.

01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:46.282
But equally, Geoff,

01:05:46.342 --> 01:05:47.563
what about in terms of

01:05:47.682 --> 01:05:49.844
supporting best mates?

01:05:49.985 --> 01:05:51.485
What can people do and how?

01:05:52.286 --> 01:05:53.487
Yeah, supporting best mates.

01:05:54.068 --> 01:05:55.389
Yeah, I think, like you said,

01:05:55.608 --> 01:05:56.690
getting the point across of

01:05:56.730 --> 01:05:57.530
what we're trying to do is

01:05:57.550 --> 01:05:58.130
the main thing.

01:05:58.190 --> 01:06:00.233
But when it comes to supporting us and,

01:06:00.612 --> 01:06:00.873
you know,

01:06:00.932 --> 01:06:02.454
raising funds to help us to

01:06:02.494 --> 01:06:03.876
achieve what we're setting out to do,

01:06:03.936 --> 01:06:06.398
you know, if we're a new charity,

01:06:06.777 --> 01:06:07.978
I hope this gets the

01:06:08.018 --> 01:06:09.820
message across for who we are,

01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:11.961
what we are and what we're trying to do.

01:06:12.523 --> 01:06:13.762
If there's any interest out there from,

01:06:13.782 --> 01:06:14.043
you know,

01:06:14.083 --> 01:06:15.684
businesses or individuals that

01:06:15.704 --> 01:06:17.184
want to raise funds to help us,

01:06:17.923 --> 01:06:18.844
please do reach out.

01:06:18.903 --> 01:06:20.804
Please do come and speak to us.

01:06:21.204 --> 01:06:22.284
You'll see if you follow us

01:06:22.344 --> 01:06:23.965
on our socials that we've

01:06:24.025 --> 01:06:26.905
got a Tower to Tower event,

01:06:26.965 --> 01:06:28.606
Tower of London to the Eiffel Tower.

01:06:29.126 --> 01:06:31.067
We're all riding our bikes, including me,

01:06:32.007 --> 01:06:34.146
to the Eiffel Tower on the 17th of June.

01:06:34.286 --> 01:06:35.648
So there's fundraising out of that.

01:06:36.228 --> 01:06:36.987
You're on the handlebars, Jeff,

01:06:37.007 --> 01:06:37.307
aren't you?

01:06:38.226 --> 01:06:39.027
I'm just taking handlebars.

01:06:39.047 --> 01:06:39.746
I'm just going to sit on the

01:06:39.786 --> 01:06:44.592
train and just video that.

01:06:44.771 --> 01:06:45.032
You know,

01:06:45.052 --> 01:06:46.213
we've got a parachute job going

01:06:46.253 --> 01:06:46.873
on in April.

01:06:47.273 --> 01:06:49.496
We've got an actual physical

01:06:49.556 --> 01:06:50.637
launch to Best Mates,

01:06:50.677 --> 01:06:52.677
which is going on in London,

01:06:52.818 --> 01:06:53.639
which is in April.

01:06:54.380 --> 01:06:55.221
We've got businesses,

01:06:55.260 --> 01:06:56.581
which we've got a business,

01:06:56.661 --> 01:06:57.882
One Vision Signs in Swindon.

01:06:58.123 --> 01:06:59.003
They've put on a race night

01:06:59.023 --> 01:06:59.945
for us at the county ground

01:06:59.985 --> 01:07:00.565
this Saturday.

01:07:01.505 --> 01:07:02.367
Friday.

01:07:02.927 --> 01:07:03.288
Friday.

01:07:03.327 --> 01:07:04.248
You're going, John, aren't you?

01:07:04.568 --> 01:07:04.949
You're there.

01:07:05.373 --> 01:07:06.574
I've got your tickets here, actually.

01:07:07.114 --> 01:07:11.599
Yeah, they're no good there, mate.

01:07:11.639 --> 01:07:12.260
We need a mayor.

01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:13.121
If businesses and people

01:07:13.141 --> 01:07:14.061
want to raise funds and

01:07:14.121 --> 01:07:15.943
help us and get involved more,

01:07:16.224 --> 01:07:18.005
and as well as if you are a

01:07:18.047 --> 01:07:18.987
person that's obviously

01:07:19.027 --> 01:07:20.588
gone through something and

01:07:20.628 --> 01:07:21.670
you feel that you would

01:07:21.690 --> 01:07:22.590
personally benefit from

01:07:22.630 --> 01:07:24.313
becoming a mate and helping people out,

01:07:24.773 --> 01:07:25.974
again, come forward.

01:07:26.411 --> 01:07:26.670
You know,

01:07:26.931 --> 01:07:28.090
it's a little interview where we

01:07:28.110 --> 01:07:29.012
just talk to you a little

01:07:29.032 --> 01:07:30.472
bit in complete confidence.

01:07:30.931 --> 01:07:32.092
We sign some forms to make

01:07:32.132 --> 01:07:32.512
sure that the

01:07:32.552 --> 01:07:35.554
confidentiality side of things is there.

01:07:36.014 --> 01:07:37.574
And then as somebody comes forward,

01:07:37.614 --> 01:07:38.534
we put it out to see who

01:07:38.554 --> 01:07:39.394
wants to step forward and

01:07:39.414 --> 01:07:40.054
speak to people.

01:07:41.054 --> 01:07:42.896
Can I ask a question on that then, Jeff,

01:07:43.215 --> 01:07:44.795
is what's the support

01:07:44.856 --> 01:07:47.016
infrastructure for the mates?

01:07:48.635 --> 01:07:50.617
So the support and structure for the mates,

01:07:50.657 --> 01:07:52.880
we've got partners on board.

01:07:52.980 --> 01:07:54.902
So it's a good question, actually,

01:07:54.981 --> 01:07:56.302
because what we don't want

01:07:56.344 --> 01:07:58.045
to do is have a mate come forward,

01:07:58.065 --> 01:07:58.826
speak to somebody,

01:07:58.885 --> 01:07:59.766
and it brings everything

01:07:59.806 --> 01:08:00.568
back to life again.

01:08:00.588 --> 01:08:04.351
And they sit there and start to suffer.

01:08:04.472 --> 01:08:06.094
So we have got support

01:08:06.114 --> 01:08:07.735
partners in place that should support

01:08:08.103 --> 01:08:08.684
that happen,

01:08:09.204 --> 01:08:11.947
then we've basically got the

01:08:12.007 --> 01:08:13.849
services there to say, right, okay,

01:08:14.190 --> 01:08:15.311
and they will receive that

01:08:15.431 --> 01:08:17.654
counseling or whatever that might be.

01:08:17.673 --> 01:08:20.376
Best Mates, again, obviously covers that.

01:08:20.617 --> 01:08:23.220
So, yeah, it is very important.

01:08:23.239 --> 01:08:25.202
And it's also very important

01:08:25.221 --> 01:08:25.962
that when Mates come

01:08:25.983 --> 01:08:26.944
forward that we select

01:08:27.697 --> 01:08:29.018
the right mates as well you

01:08:29.037 --> 01:08:30.439
know we're not just a hey

01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:31.500
everybody come forward we

01:08:31.520 --> 01:08:33.261
need you all we have to sit

01:08:33.322 --> 01:08:34.363
down and do some vetting

01:08:34.403 --> 01:08:35.543
and understanding because

01:08:36.203 --> 01:08:37.605
um if you're not quite out

01:08:37.626 --> 01:08:39.067
of that out and in that

01:08:39.306 --> 01:08:41.128
strong position we don't

01:08:41.149 --> 01:08:42.350
want to put you the wrong

01:08:42.390 --> 01:08:43.250
wrong say don't want to put

01:08:43.270 --> 01:08:44.530
the weaker people forward

01:08:44.692 --> 01:08:46.273
yet until we know they're

01:08:46.292 --> 01:08:48.054
ready for it so it's it's

01:08:48.255 --> 01:08:49.194
it's very important and

01:08:49.235 --> 01:08:51.698
it's it's um yeah you've

01:08:51.717 --> 01:08:53.238
got to go very careful with it but

01:08:54.265 --> 01:08:56.469
you will also get that feeling of,

01:08:56.788 --> 01:08:58.350
you know, like I said earlier,

01:08:58.430 --> 01:08:59.811
I get goosebumps just

01:08:59.872 --> 01:09:01.154
talking about it because I

01:09:01.213 --> 01:09:03.155
know that whatever happens,

01:09:03.235 --> 01:09:04.296
that's another person's

01:09:04.757 --> 01:09:07.801
life's changed because, you know,

01:09:07.860 --> 01:09:08.801
making a difference.

01:09:09.993 --> 01:09:11.215
It makes a difference.

01:09:11.234 --> 01:09:12.496
Yeah, no, and I get that,

01:09:12.536 --> 01:09:13.377
which is why I just wanted

01:09:13.396 --> 01:09:14.578
to make sure if anybody was

01:09:14.597 --> 01:09:16.399
there on the fence and just worried that,

01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:19.081
you know, the support is there,

01:09:19.582 --> 01:09:21.644
it's very important to know.

01:09:21.663 --> 01:09:26.728
Rachel Weaver, yeah, she said,

01:09:26.768 --> 01:09:28.009
I'm up for becoming a mate,

01:09:28.029 --> 01:09:29.310
so get in touch, Rach.

01:09:29.350 --> 01:09:30.610
We need to catch up, Rach.

01:09:30.850 --> 01:09:31.712
Yeah, we'll sort that out.

01:09:32.523 --> 01:09:32.762
Yeah,

01:09:32.863 --> 01:09:34.545
I think that you'll make a blooming

01:09:34.564 --> 01:09:35.725
good one, definitely there.

01:09:36.886 --> 01:09:37.127
Geoff,

01:09:37.247 --> 01:09:38.628
anything that I haven't asked you or

01:09:38.649 --> 01:09:39.510
got you to say that you'd

01:09:39.550 --> 01:09:40.791
like to say at this stage?

01:09:40.850 --> 01:09:42.792
No, I think I've gone on.

01:09:42.813 --> 01:09:43.875
I hope I got the message

01:09:43.914 --> 01:09:46.337
across of what we are, who we are,

01:09:46.516 --> 01:09:48.198
what we're trying to achieve, you know,

01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:49.960
We do need everybody's help.

01:09:50.060 --> 01:09:51.560
We do need people to come forward.

01:09:51.961 --> 01:09:53.701
It can be quite overwhelming

01:09:53.740 --> 01:09:54.622
at times because so many

01:09:54.641 --> 01:09:55.542
people are interested.

01:09:56.042 --> 01:09:58.342
But if there's any interest out there,

01:09:58.363 --> 01:10:01.182
I think for me, for us at Bestmates,

01:10:01.502 --> 01:10:02.363
we need people's help.

01:10:02.423 --> 01:10:03.384
So if you want to help and

01:10:03.404 --> 01:10:04.484
you can do things for us.

01:10:05.444 --> 01:10:07.444
And also, the most important thing,

01:10:08.125 --> 01:10:08.784
if you're out there and

01:10:08.824 --> 01:10:09.546
you're going through a bit

01:10:09.565 --> 01:10:10.445
of trouble at the moment,

01:10:10.546 --> 01:10:12.185
get on the website, reach out to us,

01:10:12.506 --> 01:10:13.386
drop us a little email.

01:10:13.827 --> 01:10:15.046
Let's start to fix you.

01:10:15.886 --> 01:10:16.787
Yep, absolutely.

01:10:16.807 --> 01:10:18.087
Our catchphrase is, we got you.

01:10:18.416 --> 01:10:19.176
And we have got you.

01:10:19.778 --> 01:10:20.158
Come forward.

01:10:20.538 --> 01:10:21.118
I love that.

01:10:21.180 --> 01:10:22.180
We got you, I think,

01:10:22.240 --> 01:10:23.242
is such a lovely phrase.

01:10:23.322 --> 01:10:24.404
It sums it up brilliantly.

01:10:24.423 --> 01:10:25.984
It kind of brings the

01:10:26.025 --> 01:10:27.667
emotions up to the surface

01:10:27.728 --> 01:10:28.228
on that at all.

01:10:28.649 --> 01:10:28.929
John,

01:10:29.390 --> 01:10:30.770
anything that you want to add about

01:10:30.810 --> 01:10:32.292
Best Mates from your

01:10:32.313 --> 01:10:33.595
perspective or have we covered it all?

01:10:34.323 --> 01:10:35.345
No, just that, you know,

01:10:35.645 --> 01:10:38.466
early on into their career,

01:10:38.506 --> 01:10:39.268
if I can use that,

01:10:39.307 --> 01:10:41.850
but making massive strides already.

01:10:41.890 --> 01:10:42.650
And it's very,

01:10:42.751 --> 01:10:44.271
very proud to have kind of

01:10:44.292 --> 01:10:45.292
met Jeff and the team.

01:10:45.353 --> 01:10:46.753
And, you know,

01:10:47.534 --> 01:10:49.155
long may this journey continue, Jeff,

01:10:49.176 --> 01:10:49.615
because you're doing

01:10:49.655 --> 01:10:51.497
amazing things in its infancy,

01:10:51.557 --> 01:10:52.759
let alone when everything

01:10:52.819 --> 01:10:54.659
is kind of bigger, brighter,

01:10:54.701 --> 01:10:58.002
bolder and stuff, you know, so amazing.

01:10:59.064 --> 01:10:59.805
Just brilliant, brilliant.

01:11:01.484 --> 01:11:01.725
Well,

01:11:02.064 --> 01:11:04.688
thank you so much for joining us as well,

01:11:04.747 --> 01:11:04.988
Jeff.

01:11:05.047 --> 01:11:05.787
I do appreciate that,

01:11:05.807 --> 01:11:07.109
and I hope this has helped.

01:11:07.189 --> 01:11:10.771
Rachel said, awesome, guys, as well.

01:11:11.592 --> 01:11:13.113
Thank you for everybody that has watched.

01:11:14.255 --> 01:11:16.396
We could go on for so much longer,

01:11:16.436 --> 01:11:17.237
but hopefully that has

01:11:17.277 --> 01:11:18.537
given everyone a flavor.

01:11:19.538 --> 01:11:21.039
It's been a very proud

01:11:22.100 --> 01:11:24.103
episode of Visual PR Live,

01:11:24.262 --> 01:11:25.644
obviously a Visual PR production.

01:11:26.323 --> 01:11:28.284
And I thank people for

01:11:28.364 --> 01:11:29.706
taking the time to be

01:11:29.746 --> 01:11:31.827
watching this and participating.

01:11:31.947 --> 01:11:32.407
Remember,

01:11:32.987 --> 01:11:34.448
Visual PR is all about being in

01:11:34.507 --> 01:11:35.427
control of how your

01:11:35.448 --> 01:11:37.349
information is received and perceived.

01:11:37.429 --> 01:11:38.409
And I think today's been a

01:11:38.470 --> 01:11:40.411
great example of how we've

01:11:40.430 --> 01:11:41.990
been able to do that with

01:11:42.070 --> 01:11:43.051
everything from jail

01:11:43.112 --> 01:11:44.752
mindset performance and

01:11:44.872 --> 01:11:47.713
very much so from bestmates.org.

01:11:48.274 --> 01:11:49.755
Reach out to both sides of

01:11:49.795 --> 01:11:50.576
these guys if there's

01:11:50.615 --> 01:11:51.457
anything that either of

01:11:51.476 --> 01:11:53.818
them can do individually as a group,

01:11:53.898 --> 01:11:55.500
whether that's a business,

01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:56.780
an organisation,

01:11:56.801 --> 01:11:59.061
a sporting team or anything like that.

01:11:59.703 --> 01:12:00.663
There's a lot that can be

01:12:00.684 --> 01:12:03.246
gained from both John and Jeff.

01:12:04.086 --> 01:12:05.386
So, guys,

01:12:05.426 --> 01:12:07.269
thank you so much for joining us

01:12:08.189 --> 01:12:08.729
on this show.

01:12:08.750 --> 01:12:09.789
I hope you've enjoyed it.

01:12:10.390 --> 01:12:11.212
It's been an absolute

01:12:11.271 --> 01:12:12.653
pleasure to get you both on.

01:12:13.212 --> 01:12:13.894
Thank you, Chris.

01:12:13.913 --> 01:12:15.033
That was brilliant, mate.

01:12:15.095 --> 01:12:16.836
Thank you very, very much.

01:12:17.435 --> 01:12:18.676
Yeah, thanks for the invite, Chris.

01:12:18.695 --> 01:12:18.895
John,

01:12:18.916 --> 01:12:20.636
thanks for bringing us on and letting

01:12:20.657 --> 01:12:21.457
Chris know about us.

01:12:22.137 --> 01:12:22.818
Really, really good.

01:12:22.858 --> 01:12:23.738
Really, really impressed.

01:12:23.759 --> 01:12:24.439
Thanks ever so much.

01:12:25.340 --> 01:12:25.859
Thanks, guys.

01:12:25.880 --> 01:12:26.539
Appreciate it.

01:12:26.619 --> 01:12:28.161
Remember, you don't go anywhere.

01:12:28.220 --> 01:12:29.162
Stay in the green room when

01:12:29.202 --> 01:12:30.082
I drop you back there.

01:12:30.462 --> 01:12:33.123
But from myself, Chris Dawes of Visual PR,

01:12:33.503 --> 01:12:34.185
it's been a pleasure to

01:12:34.225 --> 01:12:34.845
have your company.

01:12:35.265 --> 01:12:36.985
We'll see you on next month's episode.

01:12:37.506 --> 01:12:37.707
Cheers.

01:12:37.726 --> 01:12:38.167
Bye-bye.

01:13:26.345 --> 01:13:26.408
Bye.