WEBVTT Kind: captions Language: en-GB 00:00:08.340 --> 00:00:12.540 Travis Bader: I'm Travis Bader, and this is the Silvercore Podcast. 00:00:12.719 --> 00:00:17.970 Silvercore has been providing its members with the skills and knowledge 00:00:18.030 --> 00:00:22.800 necessary to be confident and proficient in the outdoors for over 20 years, and 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:26.820 we make it easier for people to deepen their connection to the natural world. 00:00:27.720 --> 00:00:32.970 If you enjoy the positive and educational content we provide, please let others 00:00:32.975 --> 00:00:37.770 know by sharing, commenting and following so that you can join in on 00:00:37.800 --> 00:00:39.630 everything that SilverHorse stands for. 00:00:40.680 --> 00:00:43.350 If you'd like to learn more about becoming a member of the 00:00:43.350 --> 00:00:53.059 Silvercore Club and community, visit our website at Silvercore.ca. 00:00:57.400 --> 00:00:59.250 Visual Artist and Adventure. 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:04.040 Just shy of 20 years traveling the world as the creative director, 00:01:04.080 --> 00:01:06.240 cameraman and editor for Jim Shockey. 00:01:06.960 --> 00:01:09.630 Welcome to the Silvercore podcast, Jesse Reardon. 00:01:11.100 --> 00:01:11.850 . Jesse Reardon: That was a good intro. 00:01:12.030 --> 00:01:12.420 Hey, 00:01:12.510 --> 00:01:12.720 Travis Bader: you. 00:01:12.780 --> 00:01:14.220 Well, it's almost like I practiced 00:01:14.225 --> 00:01:14.610 Jesse Reardon: it, right? 00:01:14.730 --> 00:01:15.240 Nice. 00:01:15.300 --> 00:01:15.900 No, that was good. 00:01:15.990 --> 00:01:17.280 Just shy of 22. 00:01:17.340 --> 00:01:18.539 Travis Bader: Just shy of 20. 00:01:18.660 --> 00:01:20.160 Yeah, we're gonna say 20 years. 00:01:20.160 --> 00:01:21.900 But you, you made sure to correct me on that. 00:01:21.900 --> 00:01:22.200 You said? 00:01:22.450 --> 00:01:23.910 No, I was 19. 00:01:23.910 --> 00:01:24.630 Was just shy. 00:01:24.660 --> 00:01:25.110 Jesse Reardon: Just shy. 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:25.650 Yeah, just shy. 00:01:25.650 --> 00:01:29.940 And I think Bojo, uh, Brian Witkowski, he, he made 20 years. 00:01:30.150 --> 00:01:31.860 Uh, he was Jim Shockey's other. 00:01:32.580 --> 00:01:33.560 He was Jim Shockey's. 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:35.015 Uh, Cowboy. 00:01:35.105 --> 00:01:36.185 He's a real cowboy. 00:01:36.245 --> 00:01:37.145 Yeah, he's a real cowboy. 00:01:38.115 --> 00:01:38.675 . I was just learning 00:01:38.675 --> 00:01:39.305 Travis Bader: to be a cowboy. 00:01:39.365 --> 00:01:39.995 Just learn in. 00:01:40.235 --> 00:01:46.205 So it's funny, uh, going back, what was it, 2018? 00:01:46.210 --> 00:01:48.395 I think it was around there, 20 20 18. 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:52.325 2019 was when I first kind of Really You came on the radar for meme. 00:01:52.625 --> 00:01:53.045 Yeah. 00:01:53.135 --> 00:01:57.455 And that was when, uh, uh, my wife and I were doing some videos for 00:01:57.455 --> 00:02:02.105 April Voki in doing some, uh, my wife's a chef by trade and she's doing 00:02:02.110 --> 00:02:06.065 cooking videos, and I watched a lot of YouTube and picked up a camera. 00:02:06.070 --> 00:02:07.415 I'm like, I could figure this out. 00:02:07.865 --> 00:02:09.995 I, I, I can do this video editing. 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:11.825 And started learning how to use Premier Pro. 00:02:11.825 --> 00:02:15.545 And you came back with a whole bunch of tips and suggestions, but I was, 00:02:15.575 --> 00:02:18.875 uh, pretty chuffed when you're like, man, his, his cuts are on point. 00:02:18.905 --> 00:02:20.805 I think that was the one compliment that you, 00:02:20.935 --> 00:02:21.365 Jesse Reardon: oh man. 00:02:21.515 --> 00:02:22.285 That was nice. 00:02:22.815 --> 00:02:23.565 No, I 00:02:23.565 --> 00:02:24.155 Travis Bader: don't remember that email. 00:02:24.305 --> 00:02:25.235 No, it was good. 00:02:25.295 --> 00:02:28.175 Well, I think he came through, uh, April and over to me. 00:02:28.205 --> 00:02:28.625 Jesse Reardon: Oh, no. 00:02:29.345 --> 00:02:31.055 , constructive criticism. 00:02:31.115 --> 00:02:31.565 That's right. 00:02:31.565 --> 00:02:32.105 We'll call it. 00:02:32.715 --> 00:02:33.225 . So, 00:02:33.225 --> 00:02:37.425 Travis Bader: uh, but you, holy crow, you've been doing the whole video 00:02:37.425 --> 00:02:42.345 thing for a pretty long time with a, with a legend, with Jim Shockey. 00:02:42.735 --> 00:02:43.245 Yeah. 00:02:43.425 --> 00:02:46.515 Did you want to talk about how you got into that? 00:02:46.515 --> 00:02:47.835 Cause I think it's kind of a neat story. 00:02:48.225 --> 00:02:48.495 Jesse Reardon: Yeah. 00:02:48.495 --> 00:02:49.065 A little bit. 00:02:49.070 --> 00:02:54.255 Um, so yeah, roughly I helped put together with Shocky's team of course, 00:02:54.255 --> 00:02:57.105 because Takes a team, takes a village. 00:02:57.255 --> 00:02:57.735 Yes. 00:02:57.735 --> 00:03:01.215 Like three, three over 300 episodes was Shocky for sure. 00:03:01.220 --> 00:03:02.115 But Wow. 00:03:02.655 --> 00:03:06.495 Um, definitely, um, crazy humble beginnings because I was 00:03:06.495 --> 00:03:11.355 actually, uh, born and raised in Calgary as a kind of a city kid. 00:03:11.475 --> 00:03:16.095 Uh, kind of more like sports and, uh, hockey. 00:03:16.425 --> 00:03:20.445 Sports and wanted to be in the outdoors, but never, never got out there. 00:03:20.855 --> 00:03:21.395 How come, 00:03:21.400 --> 00:03:22.485 Travis Bader: how come you weren't outdoors? 00:03:22.485 --> 00:03:24.645 Was just like a family thing or family 00:03:24.650 --> 00:03:27.929 Jesse Reardon: didn't camp and, uh, . Yeah. 00:03:27.929 --> 00:03:31.619 I was kind of right in the city, close to downtown Calgary and it 00:03:31.619 --> 00:03:34.739 was hockey and soccer and school. 00:03:34.890 --> 00:03:35.309 Yeah. 00:03:35.369 --> 00:03:39.899 All the, all the kids at school and a bit of dirt biking, but you know, 00:03:39.904 --> 00:03:43.589 um, yeah, my dad, he, he wasn't, you know, like, it just didn't work out. 00:03:43.594 --> 00:03:44.700 Like they didn't do that. 00:03:44.790 --> 00:03:45.329 I hear ya. 00:03:45.334 --> 00:03:46.469 Fishing though. 00:03:46.529 --> 00:03:47.010 Fishing. 00:03:47.519 --> 00:03:50.429 But my dad, my dad's idea of fishing was getting together with 00:03:50.429 --> 00:03:53.850 his buddies and drinking some beers and handing me a fishing rod. 00:03:53.850 --> 00:03:57.149 But because of that, and also when I visited my grandpa in 00:03:57.154 --> 00:03:59.820 Ontario, he'd, he'd drive me to lakes and hand me a fishing rod. 00:03:59.820 --> 00:04:01.500 So because of that I loved fishing, so. 00:04:01.619 --> 00:04:02.070 Right. 00:04:02.070 --> 00:04:06.600 That was the one thing I really loved was, was fishing, but never, never hunting. 00:04:07.200 --> 00:04:07.679 So Yeah. 00:04:07.719 --> 00:04:08.000 Never hunting. 00:04:08.040 --> 00:04:08.310 Yep. 00:04:09.060 --> 00:04:12.480 But anyways, yeah, I moved to, uh, Vancouver Island and my dad 00:04:12.480 --> 00:04:16.169 was here and I got a job at a t-shirt shop as a graphic designer. 00:04:16.950 --> 00:04:20.849 And, uh, one of Shockee guys came in looking for jackets To get embroidered. 00:04:21.029 --> 00:04:21.299 Yeah. 00:04:21.360 --> 00:04:24.510 For his, uh, rogue gr route, vin territory he had bought in Yukon. 00:04:25.770 --> 00:04:30.059 and he was talking about, he had a TV show and it was, uh, a hunting 00:04:30.059 --> 00:04:33.570 show and he was traveling to Russia and all these other places. 00:04:33.570 --> 00:04:34.890 And I thought, oh, that's kind of cool. 00:04:35.520 --> 00:04:38.039 I had a website up at time and I threw him a business card right in 00:04:38.044 --> 00:04:42.179 there and . Yeah, I was, I just, yeah. 00:04:42.179 --> 00:04:45.929 It was interesting how it all transpired because Shocky looked at it, I guess, 00:04:45.929 --> 00:04:50.219 and he, he saw something, but I stayed on a sidekick and I remember the first 00:04:50.219 --> 00:04:53.190 time I watched Jim Shockey's, uh, dvd. 00:04:53.609 --> 00:04:54.869 That was a weird day. 00:04:54.960 --> 00:04:55.200 But 00:04:55.260 --> 00:04:58.169 Travis Bader: correct me if I'm wrong, your website wasn't videography. 00:04:58.174 --> 00:04:59.250 It was photography, wasn't it? 00:04:59.255 --> 00:04:59.370 It 00:04:59.370 --> 00:05:01.590 Jesse Reardon: was like I had photos, like we, I took a year. 00:05:01.620 --> 00:05:02.429 Media course. 00:05:02.429 --> 00:05:07.109 So you did, uh, six weeks of video and we did six weeks of Adobe 00:05:07.109 --> 00:05:09.359 Photoshops, six weeks of logo design. 00:05:09.659 --> 00:05:09.689 Okay. 00:05:09.780 --> 00:05:14.175 It was like the, uh, G three s G4 Max had just coming out. 00:05:14.215 --> 00:05:17.145 They, they had like, it was all just getting going. 00:05:17.145 --> 00:05:18.285 Digital editing. 00:05:18.325 --> 00:05:18.935 Mm-hmm. 00:05:19.020 --> 00:05:23.475 . So I don't pronounce my ngs, it's my accent , but, uh, 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:25.155 editing, digital editing, yeah. 00:05:25.845 --> 00:05:28.155 So something happened there, but I stayed on this guy. 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:31.725 I saw Shocky's first, uh, dvd and I, he, it looked pretty, 00:05:31.725 --> 00:05:33.435 uh, cheeseball, I thought. 00:05:33.435 --> 00:05:34.515 Kind of a little bit weird. 00:05:34.635 --> 00:05:36.345 I remember seeing some clips from that. 00:05:36.465 --> 00:05:36.585 Yeah. 00:05:36.585 --> 00:05:37.215 It was different. 00:05:37.245 --> 00:05:37.575 Yeah. 00:05:38.175 --> 00:05:41.385 But it was, uh, there was this young man, Cody Robbins, who's a hardcore hunter. 00:05:41.385 --> 00:05:42.255 He's got his own show. 00:05:42.255 --> 00:05:42.945 He might've heard of it. 00:05:43.035 --> 00:05:43.515 I dunno. 00:05:43.575 --> 00:05:43.965 Cody. 00:05:43.970 --> 00:05:44.335 Yeah. 00:05:44.340 --> 00:05:44.355 Yeah. 00:05:44.355 --> 00:05:45.975 Perhaps Lived the Hunter or something. 00:05:46.845 --> 00:05:47.895 . Um, yeah. 00:05:47.900 --> 00:05:47.985 Yeah. 00:05:48.015 --> 00:05:51.585 He was doing the show at the time and, um, somehow I got invited to go 00:05:51.585 --> 00:05:53.295 to Saskatchewan and live with Cody. 00:05:54.045 --> 00:05:55.185 live at Cody's. 00:05:55.815 --> 00:05:56.775 Travis Bader: You just got the invite. 00:05:56.925 --> 00:05:58.365 Jesse Reardon: He's like from Jim Bisson to go. 00:05:58.365 --> 00:06:01.005 Cuz they were, Jim was an outfitter for a whitetail out there. 00:06:01.035 --> 00:06:01.665 Ah, okay. 00:06:01.695 --> 00:06:05.145 So I got the invite to go live at Cody's for a month and just follow him 00:06:05.145 --> 00:06:09.255 along like, cuz Cody's running around filming hunts and editing the show. 00:06:09.260 --> 00:06:10.515 He is always late on his 00:06:12.135 --> 00:06:13.215 So I was there to help. 00:06:13.215 --> 00:06:13.515 Right? 00:06:13.535 --> 00:06:13.776 Yeah, yeah. 00:06:13.781 --> 00:06:14.955 And live with Cody Robbins. 00:06:15.315 --> 00:06:15.555 That's 00:06:15.555 --> 00:06:15.945 Travis Bader: pretty cool. 00:06:15.945 --> 00:06:16.425 For a month. 00:06:16.575 --> 00:06:16.995 Was it? 00:06:17.685 --> 00:06:18.705 Sounds cool to me. 00:06:19.095 --> 00:06:19.695 You tell me. 00:06:19.695 --> 00:06:20.325 Was it cool? 00:06:21.075 --> 00:06:21.915 Jesse Reardon: Yeah, it was cool. 00:06:21.975 --> 00:06:22.545 I learned a lot. 00:06:23.325 --> 00:06:24.075 I learned a lot. 00:06:24.315 --> 00:06:24.915 No, it was good. 00:06:24.915 --> 00:06:28.755 It was really good to, uh, yeah, a lot lot happened that, that month 00:06:28.755 --> 00:06:34.305 and actually that month is when I, so cuz Cody was so busy with Whitetails 00:06:34.305 --> 00:06:38.655 and with Jim's outfit in area and for Whitetails that Shockey was doing, uh, 00:06:38.655 --> 00:06:42.915 he'd got drawn for this random, uh, elk hunt in Wyoming and he needed a camera. 00:06:43.635 --> 00:06:43.965 Okay. 00:06:44.205 --> 00:06:47.234 So I was like, yeah, I'll go to Wyoming. 00:06:47.234 --> 00:06:47.534 Okay. 00:06:47.565 --> 00:06:51.525 So every weekend, cuz Jim would have to come back and say hi to 00:06:51.530 --> 00:06:52.844 the Hunters or something like that. 00:06:52.875 --> 00:06:52.935 Yeah. 00:06:52.994 --> 00:06:56.145 On the weekends, wait, he had to come back on the weekends and say hi to the hunters, 00:06:56.565 --> 00:06:58.515 do all the dinners and all this stuff. 00:06:58.695 --> 00:07:01.125 And then he'd go back hunting for three days in Wyoming. 00:07:01.395 --> 00:07:02.354 So he needed cameraman. 00:07:02.354 --> 00:07:05.174 So I went with him on those for three weeks. 00:07:05.174 --> 00:07:09.044 We went for like four day hunts for elk with his muzzle lo muzzle loader. 00:07:09.104 --> 00:07:09.375 Yeah. 00:07:09.525 --> 00:07:12.224 Just drive back and forth from driving back and forth, listening 00:07:12.224 --> 00:07:14.835 to, to him sing . Is he a good 00:07:14.835 --> 00:07:15.135 Travis Bader: singer? 00:07:16.755 --> 00:07:18.255 Jesse Reardon: He's not like, he's not bad. 00:07:20.145 --> 00:07:20.934 Depends who you ask. 00:07:21.135 --> 00:07:23.325 Like if you ask him, he's pretty, he's pretty good. 00:07:23.325 --> 00:07:27.525 His, his song did make number one Blues or something Very cool. 00:07:27.585 --> 00:07:29.265 Yeah, he, he sung that to me once too. 00:07:29.294 --> 00:07:30.495 He's sung me every song. 00:07:30.585 --> 00:07:30.885 Yeah. 00:07:31.364 --> 00:07:31.965 He sung me good. 00:07:31.965 --> 00:07:33.344 The his Grass is Greener song. 00:07:33.344 --> 00:07:36.614 When, um, when I retired from the, the Shocky Show. 00:07:37.755 --> 00:07:37.965 . Long 00:07:37.965 --> 00:07:38.325 Travis Bader: story. 00:07:38.414 --> 00:07:39.164 That's pretty cool. 00:07:39.164 --> 00:07:41.174 Sounds kinda like a family environment really. 00:07:41.234 --> 00:07:41.625 Yeah. 00:07:42.270 --> 00:07:42.990 . Jesse Reardon: Yeah, totally. 00:07:43.140 --> 00:07:46.890 He, he became kind of like a, what do they call it? 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.170 Like a surrogate, surrogate father. 00:07:49.170 --> 00:07:52.440 I call him more surrogate Grandpa . I'm sure he 00:07:52.440 --> 00:07:55.170 Travis Bader: loves that surrogate great-grandfather Custer's. 00:07:55.700 --> 00:07:58.169 Jesse Reardon: So, no, he, he's awesome, you know, mentor all these things. 00:07:58.169 --> 00:07:59.070 Like, he taught me a lot. 00:07:59.075 --> 00:08:00.270 Taught me how to hunt for sure. 00:08:00.270 --> 00:08:03.090 Cuz I was just a city kid who, who liked to fish. 00:08:03.090 --> 00:08:05.909 But, um, hunting and all that, I, I had no clue. 00:08:05.909 --> 00:08:09.570 And when I went on that trip in Wyoming, like day one, we, I found 00:08:09.570 --> 00:08:10.770 out we were riding horseback. 00:08:10.770 --> 00:08:11.099 Right. 00:08:11.219 --> 00:08:12.480 Travis Bader: And have had you ridden a horse 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:12.810 Jesse Reardon: before? 00:08:12.930 --> 00:08:16.919 Well, like, mm, honestly, come to think of it. 00:08:16.925 --> 00:08:18.300 And not much. 00:08:18.330 --> 00:08:18.630 No. 00:08:18.630 --> 00:08:21.570 Like it's Calgary stampede I used to see. 00:08:21.900 --> 00:08:22.349 Okay. 00:08:23.055 --> 00:08:24.525 and they'd ride the horses there. 00:08:24.525 --> 00:08:26.745 And the Bronco I always liked to watch, you know? 00:08:26.775 --> 00:08:27.585 Sure, yeah. 00:08:27.675 --> 00:08:31.125 But you know, no, no, I 00:08:31.125 --> 00:08:31.395 Travis Bader: hadn't. 00:08:31.400 --> 00:08:33.794 So aside from watching other people ride horses at the 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:36.434 Jesse Reardon: Stampede, that was honestly, I don't recall child, no 00:08:36.439 --> 00:08:40.814 childhood memories of riding a horse . But I hopped on there with the Cameron, 00:08:40.820 --> 00:08:44.564 just, you know, whatever, figured it out cuz it was like, had no choice. 00:08:44.564 --> 00:08:44.865 So. 00:08:45.735 --> 00:08:45.915 So 00:08:45.915 --> 00:08:47.685 Travis Bader: what, what kind of camera were you bringing with you? 00:08:47.775 --> 00:08:50.175 Jesse Reardon: I was, uh, back then it was Cannon XL one. 00:08:50.775 --> 00:08:51.915 Cannon xl. 00:08:52.305 --> 00:08:52.875 H one. 00:08:52.875 --> 00:08:56.235 Like the first xl, or they had the GL two glt. 00:08:56.655 --> 00:08:58.185 It was still standard def. 00:08:58.485 --> 00:08:58.665 Was 00:08:58.670 --> 00:09:00.255 Travis Bader: that your camera or did they provide no shock? 00:09:00.255 --> 00:09:01.065 Jesse Reardon: He provided, yeah. 00:09:01.155 --> 00:09:01.575 Okay. 00:09:01.575 --> 00:09:03.465 He provide the tapes and everything, the batter. 00:09:04.260 --> 00:09:06.930 The, the tapes, the light that I was supposed to have. 00:09:06.930 --> 00:09:08.400 Cody, thanks for reminding me. 00:09:10.770 --> 00:09:11.310 . Yeah. 00:09:11.610 --> 00:09:14.550 Cody . Yeah, it was, it was a good, uh, it was a good trip. 00:09:14.610 --> 00:09:18.300 It was like, I learned a lot, but it was back to camp and I got to 00:09:18.300 --> 00:09:20.760 know Shocky the whole time and I tried to prove myself right. 00:09:20.760 --> 00:09:26.430 So I had my, like my Cannon camera or whatever my, you know, film camera, took 00:09:26.430 --> 00:09:28.950 pictures and I'd go back to Cody's and 00:09:28.950 --> 00:09:29.250 Travis Bader: edit. 00:09:29.250 --> 00:09:31.350 And Was it hard to prove yourself? 00:09:31.350 --> 00:09:33.270 Did that, was that an ongoing process? 00:09:33.870 --> 00:09:37.290 Jesse Reardon: Well, they needed a guy for sure, but it was, yeah, it was like I had 00:09:37.290 --> 00:09:43.080 to prove myself to Jim that I wasn't gonna like, cuz shockey's the real deal, like 00:09:43.080 --> 00:09:47.340 when he goes on these trips, the rougher the better, the more hungry, the better 00:09:47.340 --> 00:09:49.530 the crappier, the weather the better. 00:09:49.560 --> 00:09:52.950 Like, he's a serious, I'm like, you know, he like, the last trip 00:09:52.950 --> 00:09:54.420 I did with him, you said 10 days. 00:09:54.690 --> 00:09:55.770 We were there 21 days 00:09:56.400 --> 00:09:59.010 Travis Bader: and you'd never really camped or been outside before this. 00:09:59.250 --> 00:10:00.330 Jesse Reardon: Oh, for that one? 00:10:00.390 --> 00:10:05.670 Y yeah, I mean, No, I, I remember camping rarely as a child. 00:10:05.670 --> 00:10:06.030 Yeah. 00:10:06.570 --> 00:10:10.170 Travis Bader: And now you're out there 21 days, not only taking care of yourself, 00:10:10.175 --> 00:10:12.090 but having to capture everything. 00:10:12.090 --> 00:10:13.710 Take care of the equipment, I'm sure. 00:10:13.715 --> 00:10:14.040 Right? 00:10:14.220 --> 00:10:14.460 Yeah. 00:10:14.465 --> 00:10:15.630 That to capture everything on video 00:10:15.630 --> 00:10:16.140 Jesse Reardon: and photo. 00:10:16.290 --> 00:10:16.440 Yeah. 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:19.740 That one was a little cushy cuz we went back to like, uh, they had like a barn. 00:10:19.920 --> 00:10:20.070 Okay. 00:10:20.070 --> 00:10:21.330 Kind of set up with bunk beds. 00:10:21.330 --> 00:10:24.270 But you, you know, it's like a outfitter camp I guess. 00:10:24.330 --> 00:10:24.480 Yeah. 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:29.220 So you'd go back to a nice warm dinner and I, I learned about that whole cuz when you 00:10:29.220 --> 00:10:33.870 go with an outfitter, it, it's, you, you do become friends and uh, you get to know 00:10:33.875 --> 00:10:36.060 these people out on the bush really quick. 00:10:36.090 --> 00:10:36.420 Right. 00:10:36.425 --> 00:10:38.100 If you go with unguided hunts. 00:10:38.105 --> 00:10:40.950 And I learned about the camaraderie. 00:10:41.070 --> 00:10:41.790 Yes. 00:10:41.790 --> 00:10:42.600 Oh yeah, I did. 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:46.020 So it was, uh, it was a good learning experience and I was working with 00:10:46.025 --> 00:10:47.760 real cowboys out out in Wyoming. 00:10:47.760 --> 00:10:48.870 It was, was it Wyoming? 00:10:48.870 --> 00:10:50.400 Yeah, it was, it was insane. 00:10:50.550 --> 00:10:51.810 Travis Bader: Just pretty cool. 00:10:51.870 --> 00:10:57.930 So you just jump in and you're now all of a sudden filming a shows you had 00:10:57.930 --> 00:10:59.490 other people besides you helping film it? 00:10:59.490 --> 00:11:00.810 Or were you just kind of. 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:04.800 Jesse Reardon: It was, it was time to, uh, Cody needed a second 00:11:04.800 --> 00:11:06.690 cameraman cuz Cody was getting busy. 00:11:06.690 --> 00:11:09.180 Um, he was, yeah, he was too busy. 00:11:09.185 --> 00:11:11.220 He was getting burnt out because, you know, traveling the 00:11:11.225 --> 00:11:12.450 world and whatever was great. 00:11:12.450 --> 00:11:19.470 So I got the, uh, I got invited to this 45 day trip, which was pretty wild. 00:11:19.470 --> 00:11:23.010 It was Turkey, Tanzania, and, uh, Spain. 00:11:23.130 --> 00:11:23.280 Yep. 00:11:24.060 --> 00:11:24.720 Wow. 00:11:24.990 --> 00:11:26.100 Anyways, it was all new to me. 00:11:26.100 --> 00:11:32.190 I remember my, my first time in Spain, like on a mountain and trying to film Jim, 00:11:32.190 --> 00:11:33.600 you know, get the shot, nail the shot. 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:36.270 And then, you know, of course you'd look down and it's like, oh yeah, 00:11:37.290 --> 00:11:40.170 when you're filming and moving you gotta wa you gotta always look down. 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:42.270 You gotta watch your, watch your step man. 00:11:42.300 --> 00:11:42.660 Yeah. 00:11:43.560 --> 00:11:44.550 Because it could happen quick. 00:11:44.550 --> 00:11:47.310 Like, people, like we are in some dangerous territory. 00:11:47.310 --> 00:11:50.880 So just like, just being aware of everything. 00:11:51.525 --> 00:11:54.495 Travis Bader: I guess it's pretty easy to get stuck in the viewfinder. 00:11:54.645 --> 00:11:55.005 Jesse Reardon: Yeah. 00:11:56.085 --> 00:11:56.535 Oh yeah. 00:11:56.595 --> 00:11:59.025 And also, um, yeah, and that's another thing. 00:11:59.055 --> 00:12:01.605 You're looking through this little tiny viewfinder back in the day. 00:12:01.665 --> 00:12:01.905 Yeah. 00:12:02.235 --> 00:12:04.875 And then Shocki always loved to review the footage. 00:12:04.935 --> 00:12:06.585 That was like pretty immediately. 00:12:07.065 --> 00:12:08.835 Well, like with the, yeah. 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:10.215 I mean, sometimes with the tapes. 00:12:10.215 --> 00:12:10.365 Yeah. 00:12:10.365 --> 00:12:11.205 We were always careful. 00:12:11.205 --> 00:12:11.295 Mm-hmm. 00:12:11.705 --> 00:12:14.565 , there was one guy who, he was just so pumped about his footage 00:12:14.565 --> 00:12:18.375 and then he reviewed it and then the next day, Recorded over it. 00:12:19.185 --> 00:12:22.365 Travis Bader: So one thing that's been interesting, like in the Shocky 00:12:22.365 --> 00:12:26.745 shows is that he will, he'll release the blemishes as well, right? 00:12:26.745 --> 00:12:26.805 Yeah. 00:12:26.835 --> 00:12:27.465 He'll yeah. 00:12:27.855 --> 00:12:30.045 He's got the hits, but he'll also have the misses in there. 00:12:30.375 --> 00:12:31.035 No, that was good. 00:12:31.245 --> 00:12:35.415 Which is it, it brings it into a level of reality for the people who are watching. 00:12:35.685 --> 00:12:35.835 Yeah. 00:12:35.865 --> 00:12:39.405 Where quite often it was always like you'd, you'd see somebody on TV and 00:12:39.405 --> 00:12:40.905 it was, they're always successful. 00:12:40.905 --> 00:12:41.865 They're always making hits. 00:12:41.865 --> 00:12:42.045 Totally. 00:12:42.555 --> 00:12:47.055 And I thought that's kind of an interesting way to approach it. 00:12:47.055 --> 00:12:50.130 And I think that probably is paid in part to the success that 00:12:50.265 --> 00:12:52.694 the, that the show see would see. 00:12:52.995 --> 00:12:53.564 Yeah, totally. 00:12:53.569 --> 00:12:54.795 Jesse Reardon: And that's, I came on like. 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:59.680 Uh, late part of Season two and Shockey's for Jim Shockey's Hunt 00:12:59.680 --> 00:13:01.720 inventors that went on for 17 seasons. 00:13:02.290 --> 00:13:07.630 And one thing I did like about the shows besides the, uh, the Looped one 00:13:07.630 --> 00:13:11.140 song, weird song throughout the whole song or throughout the whole show. 00:13:11.199 --> 00:13:11.380 Yeah. 00:13:11.620 --> 00:13:13.569 Which I was like, oh man, it's gotta go. 00:13:13.660 --> 00:13:14.350 It's gotta go. 00:13:14.980 --> 00:13:18.340 Was uh, he was real, like it was, it did tell the story of the Hunt. 00:13:18.370 --> 00:13:21.970 It did tell the, the, the, if he didn't get one, if he did get one. 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:22.480 Mm-hmm. 00:13:22.630 --> 00:13:24.970 Um, you know, I remember, yeah. 00:13:24.970 --> 00:13:25.329 He had to. 00:13:26.500 --> 00:13:29.170 Yeah, I, I appreciated that about, and that's what Hunt was good about, 00:13:29.175 --> 00:13:32.980 hunt adventures, is that we, he would literally bring back the footage. 00:13:32.985 --> 00:13:33.110 Yeah. 00:13:33.579 --> 00:13:40.750 Here's the, you know, 10 tapes from this trip to, you know, wherever 00:13:40.755 --> 00:13:43.089 Spain, we need three episodes. 00:13:43.089 --> 00:13:43.630 Figure it out. 00:13:44.620 --> 00:13:47.439 Travis Bader: Were there other people that were kind of vying for that position and 00:13:47.439 --> 00:13:51.310 you just kind of got in or were you just kind of like right place, right time? 00:13:52.530 --> 00:13:55.530 Jesse Reardon: Yeah, I was, it was kind of right place, right time, I guess. 00:13:55.530 --> 00:14:00.210 But I was kind of, uh, it was like an opportunity that I heard, like 00:14:00.215 --> 00:14:04.680 he came into my work looking for jackets and he talked about this cool 00:14:04.680 --> 00:14:06.630 show we had that he just started. 00:14:06.630 --> 00:14:10.290 And I was like, oh, that's, I was just kind of, I'd just moved to 00:14:10.295 --> 00:14:14.130 the island and it was just kind of there, you know, taking up a seat 00:14:14.430 --> 00:14:16.590 and I just saw an opportunity. 00:14:16.590 --> 00:14:20.670 But yeah, it, it just right place, right time. 00:14:20.675 --> 00:14:24.960 And then also just jumping on opportunity, but also staying on it, like being 00:14:24.965 --> 00:14:29.460 persistent once you, um, have an in just, and then improv yourselves by, 00:14:29.730 --> 00:14:31.650 yeah, earning and respect, I guess. 00:14:32.160 --> 00:14:32.700 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:14:33.390 --> 00:14:33.570 Yeah. 00:14:33.570 --> 00:14:36.900 Do you often get people asking, like, how, how do you break into the industry? 00:14:36.900 --> 00:14:38.100 How do you get in and do this? 00:14:38.490 --> 00:14:38.640 I 00:14:38.640 --> 00:14:42.300 Jesse Reardon: have had people ask me, and it is just, if, if that 00:14:42.305 --> 00:14:45.990 opportunity Pres presents itself Yeah. 00:14:45.990 --> 00:14:46.860 You gotta jump on it. 00:14:46.920 --> 00:14:50.100 You know, like, I remember sitting on, uh, the ferry like I was today. 00:14:50.340 --> 00:14:50.610 Yeah. 00:14:50.670 --> 00:14:56.220 Heading Su Saskatchewan with Jim Bien, his, uh, sidekick, his right hand man in 00:14:56.220 --> 00:14:59.970 2004, thinking like, okay, here we go. 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:02.340 I got four weeks to prove myself. 00:15:02.345 --> 00:15:03.930 Otherwise I'm back at the t-shirt shop. 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:04.200 Right. 00:15:04.950 --> 00:15:05.550 , I don't know. 00:15:05.640 --> 00:15:06.060 And he didn't 00:15:06.060 --> 00:15:06.570 Travis Bader: wanna go back 00:15:06.575 --> 00:15:07.320 Jesse Reardon: to the T-shirt shop? 00:15:07.325 --> 00:15:07.800 Not really. 00:15:07.800 --> 00:15:08.910 I could go back to Calgary. 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.550 I was thinking about going back to Calgary, maybe moving out east. 00:15:11.730 --> 00:15:12.000 Yeah. 00:15:12.420 --> 00:15:15.810 I wanted to do something kind of, I've always wanted to do 00:15:15.810 --> 00:15:17.970 something in the fishing industry, like some sort of TV show. 00:15:17.975 --> 00:15:18.750 So Yeah. 00:15:19.350 --> 00:15:20.130 Still in the works. 00:15:20.970 --> 00:15:21.330 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:15:22.245 --> 00:15:22.454 Yeah. 00:15:22.454 --> 00:15:23.235 Let's see what happens. 00:15:23.324 --> 00:15:23.564 Yeah. 00:15:23.775 --> 00:15:24.255 Okay. 00:15:24.255 --> 00:15:24.855 Never know. 00:15:25.005 --> 00:15:29.474 Yeah, I was, I remember, um, uh, listening to, uh, Jim say, you 00:15:29.474 --> 00:15:31.694 know, people asking like, how, how do you get into the industry? 00:15:31.694 --> 00:15:33.105 How do you get in and do this? 00:15:33.135 --> 00:15:37.185 And he said, just want this and do it. 00:15:37.185 --> 00:15:37.785 Mm-hmm. 00:15:37.964 --> 00:15:38.805 be in there and do it. 00:15:39.064 --> 00:15:40.515 Want it more than anything else. 00:15:40.545 --> 00:15:41.555 How do you do this? 00:15:41.745 --> 00:15:43.915 What the, the podcast is Silver Court. 00:15:43.920 --> 00:15:46.334 The le, every like, you know, it's a similar thing. 00:15:46.334 --> 00:15:47.385 Just want it and do it. 00:15:47.385 --> 00:15:52.515 I, I saw something that I was, I felt that I could be good at. 00:15:52.714 --> 00:15:52.995 Mm-hmm. 00:15:53.074 --> 00:15:53.635 and that was mm-hmm. 00:15:53.714 --> 00:15:54.885 , I started doing the gunsmith thing. 00:15:55.155 --> 00:15:55.334 Mm-hmm. 00:15:55.665 --> 00:15:59.265 , originally it was Silver Court Gun Works and before it 00:15:59.265 --> 00:16:00.405 became Silver Court training. 00:16:00.405 --> 00:16:04.764 And you know, people who follow the show know that I named Silvercores 00:16:04.785 --> 00:16:09.074 after my grandfather, silver Armino, who was a police officer, Vancouver police 00:16:09.074 --> 00:16:13.545 detective, and my other grandfather, Cornelius Beder, who was a entrepreneur 00:16:13.605 --> 00:16:17.805 and he had a large bakery in its day and did well for himself with that. 00:16:17.805 --> 00:16:18.194 Yeah. 00:16:18.194 --> 00:16:20.745 He was, uh, apple Fritters Macon. 00:16:21.405 --> 00:16:25.035 Yeah, he, he would brag that he was bigger than dad's oatmeal cookies. 00:16:25.035 --> 00:16:27.944 I don't know if that's a big brag or what, but, uh, for him it was 00:16:27.944 --> 00:16:29.085 one of the things that he'd say. 00:16:29.355 --> 00:16:35.745 And, um, I, so I, I, I wasn't doing well in school. 00:16:35.985 --> 00:16:36.225 Yeah. 00:16:36.255 --> 00:16:38.745 I, I figured, you know, I, 00:16:39.465 --> 00:16:40.755 Jesse Reardon: why weren't you doing well in school? 00:16:42.255 --> 00:16:44.805 Travis Bader: Probably because that whole, possibly because of that whole 00:16:45.285 --> 00:16:49.275 ADHD thing that we talked to about, on the drive over here, you learn 00:16:49.275 --> 00:16:51.675 different, learn a little bit differently. 00:16:51.855 --> 00:16:55.755 Um, approached life a little bit differently, approached challenges 00:16:55.755 --> 00:16:56.595 a little bit differently. 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.355 Got into a fair bit of trouble in my youth, honestly. 00:16:59.355 --> 00:16:59.415 Yeah. 00:16:59.444 --> 00:17:03.555 And, uh, ended up going to a number of different schools because of that. 00:17:04.125 --> 00:17:05.595 , not of my own accord. 00:17:05.625 --> 00:17:06.045 It's all an 00:17:06.045 --> 00:17:07.004 Jesse Reardon: alternative high. 00:17:07.004 --> 00:17:07.694 Back in my day. 00:17:07.754 --> 00:17:08.355 Alternative 00:17:08.444 --> 00:17:08.775 Travis Bader: high. 00:17:09.165 --> 00:17:09.615 Yeah. 00:17:10.214 --> 00:17:14.655 Uh, I think at the end it was, uh, 1, 2, 3. 00:17:16.185 --> 00:17:21.255 1, 2, 2 different elementary schools, uh, five different high schools. 00:17:22.005 --> 00:17:26.656 And I remember grade seven, the teacher's like, you know, Trav, honestly, I 00:17:26.661 --> 00:17:29.715 should fail you, but I don't want to see you back in the class again. 00:17:29.745 --> 00:17:31.935 So I'm giving you just enough to pass. 00:17:31.935 --> 00:17:35.175 It gets you into high school and I think high school will figure you out. 00:17:35.639 --> 00:17:38.570 . And that was probably a good thing on her part because yeah, I don't, 00:17:38.570 --> 00:17:41.040 I don't see it helping anybody having me repeat that grade. 00:17:41.040 --> 00:17:43.590 And then, uh, you know, I graduated with honors. 00:17:43.860 --> 00:17:43.979 Yeah. 00:17:43.979 --> 00:17:45.629 At grade four I had straight A's. 00:17:45.629 --> 00:17:45.689 Yeah. 00:17:45.719 --> 00:17:49.409 Just because, uh, different teachers, different teaching styles. 00:17:49.409 --> 00:17:54.840 By the time I came to graduation, I was going to, um, the worst rated 00:17:54.840 --> 00:17:56.639 school in British Columbia at the time. 00:17:56.879 --> 00:17:57.149 Yeah. 00:17:57.360 --> 00:18:01.500 I think it's much more better rated now, but I mean, it had problems. 00:18:01.500 --> 00:18:02.790 Jesse Reardon: It was worse than Central Memorial in 00:18:02.790 --> 00:18:03.270 Travis Bader: Calgary. 00:18:03.419 --> 00:18:07.679 Well this was Princess Margaret Secondary in, uh, in Sury. 00:18:07.800 --> 00:18:08.889 Oh, good Old Sur Boy. 00:18:08.889 --> 00:18:09.409 We have one of those too. 00:18:09.479 --> 00:18:09.969 Yeah. 00:18:10.860 --> 00:18:14.489 Uh, good old Princess Margaret's secondary PMs, everyone would lovingly call it. 00:18:14.550 --> 00:18:14.909 Wow. 00:18:14.969 --> 00:18:16.919 Um, and crazy. 00:18:17.070 --> 00:18:21.330 I was there going to Siku, uh, doing night school at Semi Amu. 00:18:23.370 --> 00:18:27.600 and I ended up at Seattles grad, and then I would just go across the street 00:18:27.600 --> 00:18:31.380 to the college and or the university college to whatever it is now. 00:18:31.380 --> 00:18:31.650 Quine. 00:18:31.990 --> 00:18:32.590 Mm-hmm. 00:18:32.670 --> 00:18:37.170 . I talk to my teachers, what worked, what work do I have to show you in 00:18:37.170 --> 00:18:39.180 order to get a good grade in this class? 00:18:39.330 --> 00:18:39.420 Yeah. 00:18:39.420 --> 00:18:41.700 They tell me, I go across the street, I do all the work, and I go to the 00:18:41.700 --> 00:18:46.080 beach and I get all my schooling done within an hour or two in the morning, 00:18:46.890 --> 00:18:49.680 which is just the different way that their mind works and brain works. 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:49.860 So. 00:18:49.920 --> 00:18:50.370 Totally. 00:18:50.650 --> 00:18:51.910 And yeah, I So, 00:18:51.915 --> 00:18:53.430 Jesse Reardon: and you were recently diagnosed with, yeah, 00:18:53.430 --> 00:18:54.540 I recently diagnosed with adhd. 00:18:54.540 --> 00:18:57.360 I had to go get checked out, you know, to just kind of prove to 00:18:57.365 --> 00:18:58.980 myself that I probably did have it. 00:18:59.264 --> 00:18:59.594 Did you 00:18:59.594 --> 00:19:00.225 Travis Bader: feel you 00:19:00.225 --> 00:19:01.155 Jesse Reardon: had it and you're like, okay. 00:19:01.245 --> 00:19:02.205 Oh yeah, I was always there. 00:19:02.205 --> 00:19:04.574 I was just, you know, I always kind of blamed it on my childhood, 00:19:04.574 --> 00:19:08.985 but it was, it was actually, I had ADHD as well for full on. 00:19:09.014 --> 00:19:12.824 But you know, thank goodness cuz um, if we didn't have people with a adhd, I 00:19:12.824 --> 00:19:14.175 don't think anything we could get done. 00:19:14.385 --> 00:19:18.764 Travis Bader: So Sean Taylor, ex JTF two Joint Task Force two Canada's 00:19:19.064 --> 00:19:23.084 Elite Special Forces tier one operator, talking with him a couple days ago on 00:19:23.084 --> 00:19:25.455 the phone and brought up the ADHD thing. 00:19:25.455 --> 00:19:28.425 We're talking about that and mentioned, you know, when I was a 00:19:28.429 --> 00:19:30.794 kid, I was on an experimental program. 00:19:30.800 --> 00:19:33.254 I was on the highest dosage of Ritalin in the province. 00:19:33.645 --> 00:19:36.344 They could only prescribe certain amount per pill. 00:19:36.344 --> 00:19:39.165 So they said, well just take a whole bunch of pills in the morning and a whole bunch 00:19:39.165 --> 00:19:42.584 of pills in the afternoon and we'll just, we'll keep upping it until we kind of 00:19:42.584 --> 00:19:46.334 find the optimal threshold and then we'll ease it back, I think was what the, yikes. 00:19:46.514 --> 00:19:46.844 Right? 00:19:46.965 --> 00:19:49.094 And he says, uh, you. 00:19:49.800 --> 00:19:52.980 What a shame it is that, yeah, they approached it. 00:19:53.040 --> 00:19:56.160 So it was grade three when I was diagnosed that they approached it 00:19:56.160 --> 00:19:57.510 saying, okay, we've got this problem. 00:19:57.870 --> 00:20:00.390 It's adhd, but here's some ways that we can work with it. 00:20:00.390 --> 00:20:04.650 As opposed to saying, Travis, you've got this gift, it's called adhd. 00:20:04.830 --> 00:20:04.920 Yeah. 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:08.670 You're gonna have so much energy and so many different interests, and it's a gift. 00:20:08.670 --> 00:20:12.330 You're gonna look at things differently and look at all these great things 00:20:12.330 --> 00:20:15.570 that we can and find a way to work with it, as opposed to always growing 00:20:15.570 --> 00:20:19.050 up thinking, I remember the kids, they would call 'em smart pills, right? 00:20:19.110 --> 00:20:20.910 Oh, Travis is taking us smart pills. 00:20:21.120 --> 00:20:24.405 So when I came into grade, Eight going into high school, 00:20:24.405 --> 00:20:26.325 I'm like, forget it, I'm off. 00:20:26.325 --> 00:20:28.095 I'm cold Turkey, taking myself off. 00:20:28.095 --> 00:20:28.155 Yeah. 00:20:28.155 --> 00:20:31.514 I didn't like the headaches, the appetite suppression and you 00:20:31.514 --> 00:20:33.195 know, even just going outside, 00:20:33.195 --> 00:20:34.455 Jesse Reardon: there's a bit of a stigma attached. 00:20:34.460 --> 00:20:35.235 And yet Oh yeah. 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:38.325 I don't know much about it in terms, cause I've just been diagnosed, 00:20:38.325 --> 00:20:39.405 so I've been doing my research. 00:20:39.435 --> 00:20:39.855 Okay. 00:20:39.945 --> 00:20:40.215 Yeah. 00:20:40.274 --> 00:20:42.195 And I, I did try medication, so. 00:20:42.524 --> 00:20:43.605 And how'd that work for you? 00:20:43.905 --> 00:20:45.375 It helped me, it did help me focus. 00:20:45.375 --> 00:20:45.675 Yeah. 00:20:45.675 --> 00:20:49.514 But, you know, it just, and cuz of that stigma attached, it made me uncomfortable 00:20:49.514 --> 00:20:53.745 based on my family upbringing, but also by, I did like, uh, I don't know, I'm 00:20:53.745 --> 00:20:57.764 still kind of experimenting with my, what, what's the right, you know, because 00:20:57.764 --> 00:20:59.564 honestly it did help me, uh, focus. 00:21:00.165 --> 00:21:00.615 Travis Bader: Sure. 00:21:01.004 --> 00:21:05.024 I found that it would numb me. 00:21:05.564 --> 00:21:05.925 Right. 00:21:05.925 --> 00:21:09.014 And it, it made me feel like not me. 00:21:09.314 --> 00:21:10.185 And while it might. 00:21:12.120 --> 00:21:15.420 focus, perhaps it also came with the headaches and the sensitivity 00:21:15.420 --> 00:21:16.950 to light and all these other things. 00:21:17.070 --> 00:21:17.160 Mm-hmm. 00:21:17.399 --> 00:21:20.790 , I don't, I don't know what medication they put you on, but I just didn't like 00:21:20.790 --> 00:21:23.670 the feeling of needing something else. 00:21:23.850 --> 00:21:23.910 Yeah. 00:21:23.915 --> 00:21:24.280 I agree. 00:21:24.660 --> 00:21:28.230 I, I'd rather find a way, you know, I was always raised Trav, 00:21:28.230 --> 00:21:31.720 you're a, you're a square peg and the world's around hole and Yeah. 00:21:31.725 --> 00:21:33.120 The world's gotta figure it out. 00:21:33.120 --> 00:21:33.990 How to work with you. 00:21:34.080 --> 00:21:34.139 Yeah. 00:21:34.139 --> 00:21:35.790 Which is totally backwards. 00:21:35.910 --> 00:21:36.120 Yeah. 00:21:36.149 --> 00:21:38.790 If you're a square of pig and the world's a round hole mm-hmm. 00:21:39.420 --> 00:21:43.110 , it's up to you to figure out how to work yourself with the rest of the world. 00:21:43.110 --> 00:21:43.320 Totally. 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:47.100 And so it wasn't until I was, and I think that was probably why I got 00:21:47.100 --> 00:21:48.330 in a fair bit of trouble mm-hmm. 00:21:48.629 --> 00:21:49.680 in my youth and. 00:21:50.354 --> 00:21:52.935 And, uh, luckily got things kind of sorted out. 00:21:53.084 --> 00:21:53.294 Yeah. 00:21:53.294 --> 00:21:58.425 By the time I started long roundabout here, Silvercore Gun works and Yeah. 00:21:59.445 --> 00:22:00.375 Yeah, it was, 00:22:00.375 --> 00:22:02.385 Jesse Reardon: um, and soundness of mine is good. 00:22:02.834 --> 00:22:03.284 What's that? 00:22:03.290 --> 00:22:06.495 Soundness of mine like when you have a clear head, it's, it's nice. 00:22:06.705 --> 00:22:09.735 Even with adhd, that's what we get out in the bush too. 00:22:09.915 --> 00:22:14.264 You know, you go, you go into Yukon for 20 days and Well, isn't that interesting? 00:22:14.264 --> 00:22:15.705 Some, some of the best soundness of mine, you get 00:22:15.764 --> 00:22:16.334 Travis Bader: out there. 00:22:16.455 --> 00:22:20.774 Isn't it interesting how being out in the ocean, being out in a, on 00:22:20.774 --> 00:22:26.985 a lake up, the mountainside in the bush, in, in the woods will bring a 00:22:26.985 --> 00:22:29.175 level of clarity to an individual. 00:22:29.175 --> 00:22:31.364 It turns off all of that white noise. 00:22:31.604 --> 00:22:31.695 Mm-hmm. 00:22:32.354 --> 00:22:32.774 Totally. 00:22:32.864 --> 00:22:35.534 That you'd otherwise have if you're in the city all the time. 00:22:35.784 --> 00:22:36.395 Mm-hmm. 00:22:36.554 --> 00:22:42.225 , I find, I find if I've been in the city for a while, it'll take me a little bit. 00:22:43.245 --> 00:22:49.275 Kind of reached that point of just being present, let's say. 00:22:49.275 --> 00:22:49.755 Oh, yeah. 00:22:50.145 --> 00:22:56.315 Uh, sometimes all I hear is all the, all, all the thoughts, all the arguments, 00:22:56.320 --> 00:23:00.225 all the battles, all the, uh, ideas, and they're just popping and going and 00:23:00.345 --> 00:23:04.755 yeah, several days into it, all of a sudden everything's calm and it's clear. 00:23:05.115 --> 00:23:07.875 I'm sure you would find it something similar, just well 00:23:08.115 --> 00:23:09.105 Jesse Reardon: recording on some of those trips. 00:23:09.105 --> 00:23:13.755 You're kind of self-reliant a bit and you're kind of part of this team. 00:23:14.205 --> 00:23:20.235 And if you're roughing it with the boys for 10, 12, 20 some 00:23:20.235 --> 00:23:23.385 days Mm, yeah, it gets it. 00:23:23.385 --> 00:23:27.375 It's hard out there sometimes, but you come back missing those moments. 00:23:28.635 --> 00:23:32.595 and you, you, you, I used to call it a spa for men out there, spa for 00:23:32.595 --> 00:23:33.225 Travis Bader: men, . Okay. 00:23:33.225 --> 00:23:33.705 I love it. 00:23:33.795 --> 00:23:35.625 Yeah, because you come back mentally refreshed. 00:23:35.655 --> 00:23:36.015 Jesse Reardon: Oh yeah. 00:23:36.015 --> 00:23:36.975 It's the best. 00:23:37.095 --> 00:23:40.185 You, you just like, it's, uh, you, you figure things out, out there, 00:23:40.635 --> 00:23:42.915 Travis Bader: they call it, uh, you've heard of type one and type two. 00:23:42.915 --> 00:23:43.275 Fun. 00:23:43.605 --> 00:23:43.905 Yeah, 00:23:44.085 --> 00:23:44.835 Jesse Reardon: so I think so. 00:23:44.955 --> 00:23:45.375 Travis Bader: No. 00:23:45.435 --> 00:23:46.995 Okay, so you're saying, oh, it sucks. 00:23:46.995 --> 00:23:49.305 It's hard when you're out there, but you look back and it's awesome. 00:23:49.305 --> 00:23:49.485 Right. 00:23:49.575 --> 00:23:50.036 Oh, there you go. 00:23:50.041 --> 00:23:51.885 People would say, Hey, that's type two fun. 00:23:52.125 --> 00:23:52.395 Yeah. 00:23:52.455 --> 00:23:53.655 Type two fun is where. 00:23:54.630 --> 00:23:59.370 , uh, you're, you're working really hard and it, it, it's a difficult time, but yeah. 00:23:59.610 --> 00:24:02.520 It's one of those core memories that you carry with you after type one would 00:24:02.520 --> 00:24:04.440 be like, okay, I'm on a rollercoaster. 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:06.120 It's a lot of fun. 00:24:06.180 --> 00:24:06.390 Yeah. 00:24:06.450 --> 00:24:08.880 But you don't look back and say, those were the days. 00:24:08.910 --> 00:24:09.240 Right. 00:24:10.050 --> 00:24:13.410 And buddy of mine started talking about type three fun. 00:24:13.415 --> 00:24:13.760 Oh yeah. 00:24:13.920 --> 00:24:15.120 I thought, well that's interesting. 00:24:15.120 --> 00:24:16.230 What's type three fun, right? 00:24:16.380 --> 00:24:16.620 Yeah. 00:24:16.860 --> 00:24:21.840 This is, uh, uh, David, he's, uh, a big lead in the, uh, new 00:24:21.840 --> 00:24:23.160 website we're actually putting out. 00:24:23.490 --> 00:24:23.580 Yeah. 00:24:23.580 --> 00:24:24.420 This is type three fun. 00:24:24.420 --> 00:24:26.310 That's, uh, when it really sucks. 00:24:26.430 --> 00:24:26.700 Yeah. 00:24:26.760 --> 00:24:31.350 When you're doing it, but later when you look back on it, it still really sucks. 00:24:31.890 --> 00:24:34.380 right there, there is that type of type three fun. 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:37.170 Jesse Reardon: I put that in, uh, Yukon Uncharted season two. 00:24:37.280 --> 00:24:37.480 Yeah. 00:24:37.500 --> 00:24:37.830 Yeah. 00:24:38.130 --> 00:24:38.820 What was that like? 00:24:39.720 --> 00:24:42.330 . That was a hard push in the wire, our area for some reason. 00:24:42.330 --> 00:24:42.690 Yeah. 00:24:42.870 --> 00:24:44.820 Everywhere we went, we weren't seeing moose. 00:24:44.820 --> 00:24:48.960 And the other guy was seeing moose at our same . The rookie, the rookie guide. 00:24:49.950 --> 00:24:50.280 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:24:50.370 --> 00:24:51.300 Wh why do you think that was? 00:24:51.300 --> 00:24:51.629 Just, 00:24:51.810 --> 00:24:52.770 Jesse Reardon: I don't know, luck of the draw. 00:24:52.800 --> 00:24:56.040 Yeah, just kind of half It was just, and then we had bad weather and stuff for 00:24:56.040 --> 00:24:57.660 like five days just sitting in the rain. 00:24:58.410 --> 00:24:59.310 It was a hard push. 00:25:00.090 --> 00:25:00.899 We weren't, we, you know what? 00:25:00.899 --> 00:25:05.551 The problem was there if you ask Shocky and we weren't spiking out, um Mm. 00:25:05.850 --> 00:25:09.600 It was just would've been a little harder on the clients and . We would've 00:25:09.600 --> 00:25:10.800 had that really spike out there. 00:25:10.800 --> 00:25:14.820 And so you, you'd take your camp with you, and that's, that's well number one 00:25:14.820 --> 00:25:17.760 thing I learned with Jim is take your camp with you and you just keep moving. 00:25:18.870 --> 00:25:20.790 Travis Bader: How, how long will you dedicate to an area. 00:25:22.155 --> 00:25:23.034 , me or Jim? 00:25:23.034 --> 00:25:23.655 Well, okay. 00:25:23.655 --> 00:25:25.125 Well, you filming Jim 00:25:25.665 --> 00:25:25.784 . Jesse Reardon: Oh. 00:25:25.784 --> 00:25:27.315 He'd dedicate his life to an area, 00:25:27.315 --> 00:25:27.915 Travis Bader: if you could. 00:25:28.245 --> 00:25:30.975 So if it wasn't being productive, he'd just keep working it, or 00:25:30.975 --> 00:25:32.115 he'd spike out again from there. 00:25:32.120 --> 00:25:32.264 Oh, he'd 00:25:32.264 --> 00:25:32.774 Jesse Reardon: figure it out. 00:25:32.774 --> 00:25:35.175 He'd figure out the best way to hunt that area, for sure. 00:25:35.264 --> 00:25:35.445 Yeah. 00:25:35.450 --> 00:25:37.004 Or we'd just move on to new area. 00:25:37.544 --> 00:25:41.024 If that area wasn't for moose, like Yeah, you'd fig you'd, you'd 00:25:41.024 --> 00:25:42.495 find you'd find the biggest moose. 00:25:42.675 --> 00:25:42.915 What 00:25:42.915 --> 00:25:43.815 Travis Bader: sort of things would he be looking. 00:25:44.700 --> 00:25:45.270 For moose. 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:45.780 Sure. 00:25:45.780 --> 00:25:47.900 Let's say for moose, if he's going out into an area and 00:25:47.900 --> 00:25:49.140 Jesse Reardon: he says, oh, he is getting the high points and he is 00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:51.450 looking for, for antlers to start. 00:25:51.690 --> 00:25:51.960 Yeah. 00:25:52.080 --> 00:25:54.870 But he is also, it's all in season and everything. 00:25:54.870 --> 00:25:58.740 He knows his, I mean there he hunt, he, he really knows that area out. 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:03.090 Uh, I can't say the name, but we, I went there for the first time with them. 00:26:03.090 --> 00:26:08.280 Actually, when he bought the area, he, we went there . Oh man. 00:26:08.610 --> 00:26:12.180 Yeah, we went to that camp and had been attacked by Grizzly bear. 00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:13.770 I didn't know we were just setting up this camp. 00:26:13.770 --> 00:26:15.540 So now this campus is camp now. 00:26:15.540 --> 00:26:16.650 Now it's like Deputy Boo. 00:26:16.650 --> 00:26:20.490 But I went there day one with him and I remember laying in that, that shack 00:26:20.490 --> 00:26:25.000 thinking, oh boy, three weeks of this like, . I was like in the fetal position 00:26:25.004 --> 00:26:26.520 thinking, here we go with a grizzly 00:26:26.520 --> 00:26:27.360 Travis Bader: bear on the prowl 00:26:27.360 --> 00:26:27.720 Jesse Reardon: outside. 00:26:27.720 --> 00:26:28.680 Grizzly bear on the prowl. 00:26:28.680 --> 00:26:32.879 The camp wasn't set up and me and Jim had like four or five days before, uh, 00:26:32.879 --> 00:26:37.320 the client and his dad was coming in and that was fun filming his dad though. 00:26:37.710 --> 00:26:38.370 I was like that. 00:26:38.399 --> 00:26:38.700 Travis Bader: Okay. 00:26:38.700 --> 00:26:40.110 So those, those are neat. 00:26:40.110 --> 00:26:42.720 So his dad and his father-in-law? 00:26:42.810 --> 00:26:43.050 Yeah. 00:26:43.080 --> 00:26:43.770 Hal Lynn. 00:26:43.920 --> 00:26:44.700 Jesse Reardon: Hal Lynn. 00:26:44.909 --> 00:26:45.180 Yeah. 00:26:45.659 --> 00:26:47.010 Travis Bader: Man, that was huge. 00:26:47.010 --> 00:26:47.129 There 00:26:47.129 --> 00:26:48.060 Jesse Reardon: are a couple cool cats. 00:26:48.060 --> 00:26:49.920 Hey, they're really cool cats. 00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:55.470 And that was a good story behind that because we, um, yeah, we got 'em together 00:26:55.475 --> 00:27:01.365 for Whitetails and, uh, . I can't tell how we filmed that first episode, but after 00:27:01.365 --> 00:27:05.475 that we were like, we gotta do, it's like the idea was stemmed from grumpy old men. 00:27:05.475 --> 00:27:07.185 Like Yeah, get these two guys out. 00:27:07.190 --> 00:27:08.535 And they were having a contest. 00:27:08.865 --> 00:27:08.925 Yeah. 00:27:08.955 --> 00:27:10.905 And for them they were, they were both hardcore meat. 00:27:11.085 --> 00:27:15.015 They like everything good about hunting is what they worked . So they, they 00:27:15.015 --> 00:27:19.965 take the first thing that's legal, like legit . But, um, that's what 00:27:19.965 --> 00:27:23.445 made it good was they were kind of like old school meat, meat hunters. 00:27:23.445 --> 00:27:25.725 And that's what it's all about with hunting, is you're, you're 00:27:25.730 --> 00:27:26.685 getting meat for the family. 00:27:26.685 --> 00:27:27.945 That's how they grew up. 00:27:27.945 --> 00:27:32.695 And yeah, honestly for me, like working all that time got me into hunting and now. 00:27:33.495 --> 00:27:34.515 I don't buy meat. 00:27:34.515 --> 00:27:38.085 And actually I, you know, I try and get a blacktail every year if I can. 00:27:38.235 --> 00:27:41.805 And yeah, last year we got our first bear, so, you know, it's nice your 00:27:41.805 --> 00:27:44.895 first bear, you know, I can, and I got friends who do get farm animals so I 00:27:44.895 --> 00:27:46.275 can do trades if I get a blacktail. 00:27:46.280 --> 00:27:47.535 They're not very big on the island. 00:27:47.535 --> 00:27:48.345 But yeah. 00:27:49.125 --> 00:27:52.695 So, you know, I'm not hardcore hunter, but I definitely have a passion for 00:27:53.385 --> 00:27:57.045 wildlife and, and uh, you know, I tend to get myself in trouble when 00:27:57.045 --> 00:28:00.195 I'm hunting cuz I try and film it and then I'm, I spook off and I 00:28:00.975 --> 00:28:01.425 Travis Bader: actually shot that. 00:28:01.425 --> 00:28:01.455 Okay. 00:28:01.485 --> 00:28:04.395 So that's gotta be damn difficult trying to film your own hunt. 00:28:04.425 --> 00:28:04.695 Yeah. 00:28:04.700 --> 00:28:05.265 Film your own 00:28:05.265 --> 00:28:05.625 Jesse Reardon: hunt. 00:28:06.125 --> 00:28:09.345 Travis Bader: Tell, tell me, how do you go about filming your own hunt? 00:28:09.375 --> 00:28:10.725 What are you looking for in shots? 00:28:10.725 --> 00:28:15.765 Cause there's a lot of people who, uh, are getting, the cameras are getting better. 00:28:15.765 --> 00:28:16.935 Your phones have cameras. 00:28:17.025 --> 00:28:17.295 Oh man. 00:28:17.295 --> 00:28:17.955 Phones are amazing. 00:28:18.045 --> 00:28:18.285 Yeah. 00:28:18.290 --> 00:28:18.645 Go. 00:28:19.800 --> 00:28:22.980 and, and people are putting out content of their own on YouTube and 00:28:22.980 --> 00:28:28.560 Instagram, like from a profe season to professional's perspective, what are 00:28:28.560 --> 00:28:33.060 some of the go-tos that you'd be looking for for basic shots and composition? 00:28:33.150 --> 00:28:33.750 Well, I mean, 00:28:34.560 --> 00:28:37.680 Jesse Reardon: ultimately, again, what's made Jim Shockey, sun Ventures, 00:28:37.685 --> 00:28:41.310 or most of his here is good, was just you're telling the story of the hunt. 00:28:41.310 --> 00:28:41.850 Mm-hmm. 00:28:42.360 --> 00:28:45.450 . And if you're telling the story, you're gonna document the day. 00:28:45.455 --> 00:28:50.020 And the biggest thing is, uh, , I mean, you gotta have an eye for it too, right? 00:28:50.020 --> 00:28:50.260 Mm-hmm. 00:28:50.340 --> 00:28:50.970 for storytelling. 00:28:51.330 --> 00:28:54.540 But if you're, if you're filming a hunt, the biggest thing 00:28:54.540 --> 00:28:56.490 is to commit to your shot. 00:28:56.580 --> 00:29:00.780 You're not, cuz you, people, I people come show you footage and it's like, 00:29:00.780 --> 00:29:02.400 Hey man, I got this deer, blah blah. 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:03.060 Watch the footage. 00:29:03.060 --> 00:29:04.350 And it's like, it's all over. 00:29:04.350 --> 00:29:05.490 Boom, boom, boom. 00:29:05.670 --> 00:29:06.990 Like, where's the shot? 00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:08.370 Well, yeah, I got it. 00:29:08.370 --> 00:29:11.100 And then the camera's off and it's like right into the ground, you 00:29:11.100 --> 00:29:14.760 know, like, so if you're filming, uh, one of the biggest rules was don't. 00:29:15.510 --> 00:29:16.709 Don't get involved in the hunt. 00:29:16.709 --> 00:29:21.540 You're like Shocki used to describe it as you're like filming your kids' graduation. 00:29:21.540 --> 00:29:23.520 You're just gonna film them going up. 00:29:23.520 --> 00:29:27.120 He's gonna get the thing, you're gonna film them, so you just 00:29:27.120 --> 00:29:28.860 can't get too involved in. 00:29:29.760 --> 00:29:31.860 naturally you get involved and mm-hmm. 00:29:32.130 --> 00:29:32.940 , you miss your shot. 00:29:32.940 --> 00:29:36.180 Or cuz if you don't get that harvest shot, unfortunately in a, in a hunting 00:29:36.180 --> 00:29:38.670 show or a fishing show, you're kind of 00:29:39.450 --> 00:29:39.720 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:40.470 In trouble. 00:29:40.650 --> 00:29:42.870 Well, it makes telling the story a lot different. 00:29:42.870 --> 00:29:43.110 Yeah. 00:29:43.115 --> 00:29:44.490 Jesse Reardon: And it's not, we're not trying to glorify 00:29:44.490 --> 00:29:47.010 it, but it's part of the, it's unfortunately, it's part of the show. 00:29:47.015 --> 00:29:51.150 And what, again, hunter Ventures, it was always clean and we always did 00:29:51.150 --> 00:29:54.990 a good job of being very ethical and respectful of the animal and stuff. 00:29:55.080 --> 00:29:56.970 Travis Bader: Would you ever have to try and reshoot 00:29:56.970 --> 00:29:59.760 Jesse Reardon: and recreate So yeah, that's called, uh, B-roll. 00:29:59.760 --> 00:30:03.210 So often we would, you, you'd get B-roll. 00:30:03.210 --> 00:30:07.260 But in, and Shocky always taught us, and what I always try and go 00:30:07.260 --> 00:30:08.400 for, it's called running time. 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:08.700 Right. 00:30:08.700 --> 00:30:11.100 So for that moment it's running time. 00:30:11.100 --> 00:30:15.390 So the idea is, so you go in, like if I was filming you right down on a 00:30:15.390 --> 00:30:17.130 stalk, Uhhuh , I come in kinda wide. 00:30:17.190 --> 00:30:17.550 Right. 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:17.880 Okay. 00:30:18.180 --> 00:30:21.750 Come in wide and then we see the animal over say 50 yards. 00:30:21.750 --> 00:30:24.060 So I'm kind of, you're, I see you setting up. 00:30:24.060 --> 00:30:27.330 So now I'm still wide and then I could maybe go medium over the shoulder. 00:30:27.335 --> 00:30:27.500 Yeah. 00:30:28.125 --> 00:30:30.915 And then I'd maybe pin it at full zoom. 00:30:30.975 --> 00:30:31.305 Yeah. 00:30:32.055 --> 00:30:33.015 Hold that shot. 00:30:33.015 --> 00:30:35.235 And then if I know like maybe you're there for a minute, we're 00:30:35.235 --> 00:30:37.515 talking, you don't have time, then you'd come back wide maybe. 00:30:37.965 --> 00:30:38.235 Okay. 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.265 The idea is you just hold that shot and you'd take the shot and then 00:30:41.535 --> 00:30:44.295 there was a bit of a science to it, cuz you would, after the, after 00:30:44.295 --> 00:30:47.505 the shot, you'd stay on the animal and then come back to the hunter. 00:30:47.510 --> 00:30:48.255 But Okay. 00:30:48.285 --> 00:30:52.005 Often we would take B-roll because um, lots of shows use that and 00:30:52.005 --> 00:30:57.375 that's, um, what we didn't like about the shows was maybe the fake stuff. 00:30:57.375 --> 00:30:57.675 Right. 00:30:57.725 --> 00:30:58.045 Right. 00:30:58.050 --> 00:31:00.735 We always tried to make it real because it was hunting so it was real. 00:31:00.855 --> 00:31:01.395 Right. 00:31:01.395 --> 00:31:05.145 So we'd use, usually I'd use B-roll cuts for, um, cuz we had no 00:31:05.145 --> 00:31:07.065 time, like it was 22 minute show. 00:31:07.125 --> 00:31:07.305 Right. 00:31:07.305 --> 00:31:09.435 Two segments and everything. 00:31:09.435 --> 00:31:14.655 So it's like, you know, I could, the one moose scent we did, it was 15 minutes. 00:31:14.835 --> 00:31:15.735 The stock Right. 00:31:16.335 --> 00:31:19.645 Run in time, but I could only use two minutes or three minutes. 00:31:19.815 --> 00:31:19.965 Travis Bader: Right. 00:31:20.205 --> 00:31:21.105 So would you have to. 00:31:22.035 --> 00:31:23.985 be like, oh, hold on, stay back, stay back. 00:31:23.985 --> 00:31:25.075 I gotta get into position. 00:31:25.080 --> 00:31:27.555 Okay, now you walk through or you just, you're literally the fly on 00:31:27.555 --> 00:31:27.975 Jesse Reardon: the wall. 00:31:28.005 --> 00:31:29.985 No, you're like, you're like nothing. 00:31:29.985 --> 00:31:32.715 If you're a cameraman, you're the guy who usually gets in trouble 00:31:32.715 --> 00:31:34.635 for spooking the animal, right? 00:31:34.815 --> 00:31:38.415 So you just stick to the, often you try and get in position, you 00:31:38.415 --> 00:31:39.705 know, but you can miss the play. 00:31:39.710 --> 00:31:41.625 You gotta, it's, we call it reading the play. 00:31:41.625 --> 00:31:44.475 So again, as a cameraman, you wanna read the play. 00:31:44.475 --> 00:31:51.045 So the moose is going this way so naturally and you can compress the shot. 00:31:51.045 --> 00:31:53.445 Or if you gotta stay tight to the hunter, that's another big thing too. 00:31:54.149 --> 00:31:54.450 So 00:31:54.450 --> 00:31:56.670 Travis Bader: would you ever catch crap 00:31:56.670 --> 00:31:57.810 Jesse Reardon: for Oh, man. 00:31:57.815 --> 00:31:58.020 Yeah. 00:31:58.020 --> 00:32:00.210 Lots . There's always, always Cameraman's fault. 00:32:00.210 --> 00:32:00.780 Never Jim. 00:32:01.080 --> 00:32:01.500 That's right. 00:32:01.649 --> 00:32:02.100 Never. 00:32:02.310 --> 00:32:02.700 Yeah. 00:32:02.790 --> 00:32:04.020 Travis Bader: I saw a note on there. 00:32:04.020 --> 00:32:05.730 It says, you know, Jim never makes 00:32:05.730 --> 00:32:06.240 Jesse Reardon: noise. 00:32:06.389 --> 00:32:07.350 Jim never makes noise. 00:32:07.355 --> 00:32:07.920 No, no. 00:32:08.909 --> 00:32:12.720 , we'd be wearing the same thing, but . It's always cameraman. 00:32:12.780 --> 00:32:16.950 No, it was, uh, yeah, you, you, you'd screw up, I mean, naturally you got 00:32:17.430 --> 00:32:18.870 noise cancellation headphones often. 00:32:18.899 --> 00:32:18.990 Mm-hmm. 00:32:19.230 --> 00:32:21.090 or whatever, and you're walking around with a camera trying 00:32:21.090 --> 00:32:22.530 to nail the shot they call it. 00:32:22.590 --> 00:32:22.950 Yeah. 00:32:23.310 --> 00:32:26.610 And then you're trying to read the play and compress the shot and give 00:32:26.610 --> 00:32:32.610 it, you know, his show was filmed in a way that had the hunter in frame with 00:32:32.700 --> 00:32:35.310 the animal versus like he used to call. 00:32:35.804 --> 00:32:37.215 we used call bad wildlife footage. 00:32:37.215 --> 00:32:40.695 I mean, lots of shows, which I'd watch shows and be like, man, that's 00:32:40.695 --> 00:32:42.284 like Planet Earth right there. 00:32:42.284 --> 00:32:44.504 Like, cause it's tripod, wicked lens. 00:32:44.534 --> 00:32:44.895 Hmm. 00:32:45.344 --> 00:32:46.725 And they're nail on the shot. 00:32:46.725 --> 00:32:49.215 And they had another guy made with a cameraman or with the hunter. 00:32:49.215 --> 00:32:52.695 But ours was always like totally gorilla style, like rogue. 00:32:52.935 --> 00:32:53.504 Travis Bader: It was nuts. 00:32:53.895 --> 00:32:58.485 Would you catch, I should imagine catch heat from different environmental 00:32:58.485 --> 00:33:02.445 groups or people who were perhaps anti-hunting and then, I mean we were 00:33:02.445 --> 00:33:05.534 Jesse Reardon: always pretty good because Shockey was super careful 00:33:05.534 --> 00:33:07.094 with that and he was pretty legit. 00:33:07.094 --> 00:33:09.855 But I'm sure I know he had issues for sure. 00:33:09.860 --> 00:33:10.695 And it was unfortunate. 00:33:10.699 --> 00:33:14.475 And honestly for myself, I went in green, like my first trip to Africa. 00:33:15.690 --> 00:33:17.190 . I was on Big Five Hunt. 00:33:17.790 --> 00:33:18.990 I was like, this is ridiculous. 00:33:18.990 --> 00:33:19.590 Like, what are we doing? 00:33:19.590 --> 00:33:20.490 This is crazy. 00:33:20.610 --> 00:33:20.909 Yeah. 00:33:20.970 --> 00:33:22.500 But you learned a lot. 00:33:22.500 --> 00:33:26.430 And honestly, you know, people say you're killing these animals in 00:33:26.430 --> 00:33:30.629 Africa, but actually those hunting dollars were saving the animals. 00:33:30.629 --> 00:33:33.330 And until you're on foot there, you don't legit see it. 00:33:33.330 --> 00:33:39.389 And I, I, I could legit see that hunting was actually helping conserve wildlife. 00:33:39.419 --> 00:33:40.080 Right. 00:33:40.139 --> 00:33:41.879 But I went in totally green thinking. 00:33:41.940 --> 00:33:42.690 I don't know man. 00:33:42.695 --> 00:33:45.090 Like I, I'm just here to film and tell stories. 00:33:45.090 --> 00:33:47.399 Cause I, I loved that, that idea, you know, telling 00:33:47.399 --> 00:33:48.899 stories with video and photo. 00:33:48.899 --> 00:33:52.830 But I was, I was nervous going to those countries and it was awesome 00:33:52.830 --> 00:33:55.480 because I, I got see that Samon, 00:33:55.500 --> 00:33:57.330 Travis Bader: Tanzania, I'd love to go to Africa. 00:33:57.330 --> 00:34:00.840 Buddy of mine used to be a pH professional hunter in Africa. 00:34:01.560 --> 00:34:03.750 And actually he's been on the podcast before. 00:34:03.750 --> 00:34:07.230 He is also was bodyguard for Oprah Winfrey and her crew. 00:34:07.320 --> 00:34:07.590 Oh, nice. 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:08.009 Yeah. 00:34:08.009 --> 00:34:08.489 Pretty cool. 00:34:08.489 --> 00:34:11.969 Fellow . And, uh, so he's trying to line up an African hunt. 00:34:12.395 --> 00:34:13.125 Yeah, I do it. 00:34:13.185 --> 00:34:16.905 But he talks about, you know, when he first came over here and a buddy of 00:34:16.905 --> 00:34:21.105 his, who was also a, I think he was buddy, who was also a pH in Africa, 00:34:21.465 --> 00:34:25.455 and they're like, we want to do, we want to do a guided hunt in Canada. 00:34:25.514 --> 00:34:28.875 I mean, world renowned, maybe we'll do a moose hunt and mm-hmm. 00:34:29.175 --> 00:34:30.965 So they go out to the. 00:34:31.784 --> 00:34:33.014 Uh, guide. 00:34:33.014 --> 00:34:35.655 And they didn't bring sleeping bags. 00:34:35.655 --> 00:34:38.594 They didn't bring, they didn't ba they brought their, I think they brought their 00:34:38.594 --> 00:34:45.315 gun in a backpack and whatever they needed for their hunt, not expecting it to be so 00:34:45.315 --> 00:34:47.114 different than what it's like in Africa. 00:34:47.120 --> 00:34:49.844 He says, you know, they got people who will wash your clothing for you. 00:34:49.995 --> 00:34:51.505 They're making your drinks for you. 00:34:51.509 --> 00:34:54.014 They got all your bedding is being turned out. 00:34:54.014 --> 00:34:56.594 It, it's apparently a completely different 00:34:56.594 --> 00:34:57.074 Jesse Reardon: world. 00:34:57.255 --> 00:34:57.645 Oh yeah. 00:34:57.645 --> 00:35:02.415 No, Africa was, um, like the, the main Safari camps had, they had 00:35:02.415 --> 00:35:04.095 full teams there working for sure. 00:35:04.125 --> 00:35:05.775 Did your laundry and stuff like that. 00:35:05.780 --> 00:35:09.915 But, but Shocky, of course, we'd go out and like seven days and like, we'd 00:35:09.915 --> 00:35:12.735 set up, uh, mosquito net tents mm-hmm. 00:35:12.735 --> 00:35:16.455 And like sleep by Hippo Rivers and Crock Rivers. 00:35:16.460 --> 00:35:17.115 It was insane. 00:35:17.120 --> 00:35:17.535 Actually. 00:35:17.955 --> 00:35:19.935 I remember waking up with a spider in my tent. 00:35:19.935 --> 00:35:20.895 I'm like, oh, that's kind of cool. 00:35:21.555 --> 00:35:22.275 I could hear the hippos. 00:35:22.275 --> 00:35:23.205 And then I woke up next morning. 00:35:23.210 --> 00:35:27.435 My whole face was like big, big, big sting mark on it. 00:35:27.435 --> 00:35:32.430 And oh, the pH had a scorpion on his, uh, In his area there. 00:35:32.430 --> 00:35:33.900 It was in his area there. 00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:34.230 Okay. 00:35:34.230 --> 00:35:35.549 It was just, it was, it was, it was. 00:35:35.549 --> 00:35:39.150 He always loved roughing it, so, but those Africa camps 00:35:39.150 --> 00:35:40.860 were so, yeah, they were good. 00:35:42.090 --> 00:35:43.440 Travis Bader: I, yeah, it could be scary. 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:47.009 Like, I've seen stuff with, um, tiny, I don't even know what those 00:35:47.015 --> 00:35:50.100 little dug dugout kind of canoes are cold over there, but, uh, yeah. 00:35:50.490 --> 00:35:50.850 Pros. 00:35:50.850 --> 00:35:50.970 Yeah. 00:35:51.180 --> 00:35:51.480 Jesse Reardon: Yeah. 00:35:51.509 --> 00:35:52.350 Looking for Crocs. 00:35:52.410 --> 00:35:52.620 Yeah. 00:35:52.620 --> 00:35:52.860 Man. 00:35:52.860 --> 00:35:53.940 And Crocs, we did that. 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:54.210 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:35:54.210 --> 00:35:55.920 And the Crocs are larger than the boats that you're 00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:56.100 Jesse Reardon: in. 00:35:56.190 --> 00:35:56.610 Oh yeah. 00:35:56.610 --> 00:35:59.580 It's, and it's a legit fishing community and you know, we get in 00:35:59.580 --> 00:36:01.740 these boats and it's, uh, yeah. 00:36:01.850 --> 00:36:03.720 It's, it's funny at the time is it though? 00:36:03.750 --> 00:36:07.290 You know, but , like it's legit and all the guys are laughing at you, but 00:36:07.529 --> 00:36:08.850 these guys do it every day, right? 00:36:08.850 --> 00:36:08.910 Yeah. 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:10.290 So they're happy. 00:36:10.710 --> 00:36:12.930 And then I remember we got a crock at that one. 00:36:12.990 --> 00:36:13.740 That one lake. 00:36:13.740 --> 00:36:17.310 And you know it, we took some meat back and cooked it, but the whole village 00:36:17.310 --> 00:36:21.930 got the meat and took the leather every square inch of that gets used there. 00:36:22.410 --> 00:36:24.720 Travis Bader: Wasn't there a hippo charge as well that you 00:36:24.725 --> 00:36:25.680 were supposed to be in front 00:36:25.680 --> 00:36:25.860 Jesse Reardon: of? 00:36:25.890 --> 00:36:26.700 Yeah, hippo charge. 00:36:26.700 --> 00:36:27.690 Hippo charge was good. 00:36:27.690 --> 00:36:28.330 So tell me about that. 00:36:29.085 --> 00:36:30.045 Uh, yeah, it was good. 00:36:30.045 --> 00:36:33.375 There's always, uh, we were actually after hippos, and again, I'm like, you know, 00:36:33.375 --> 00:36:37.694 that's weird around hippos, but when we did get Hippo, that hippo fed literally 00:36:37.694 --> 00:36:39.105 a little village for a month, right? 00:36:39.110 --> 00:36:39.245 Mm. 00:36:39.525 --> 00:36:41.475 They used again, every square inch of it. 00:36:41.625 --> 00:36:41.895 Yeah. 00:36:42.194 --> 00:36:44.475 But it's just, uh, the, the rulers never get between 00:36:44.475 --> 00:36:46.095 hippos and, uh, land and water. 00:36:46.424 --> 00:36:46.845 Okay. 00:36:47.595 --> 00:36:51.105 So we, we kind of walked around looking for hippos on land. 00:36:51.165 --> 00:36:51.464 Yeah. 00:36:51.674 --> 00:36:52.335 Filmed a couple. 00:36:52.335 --> 00:36:53.265 They were a little small. 00:36:53.265 --> 00:36:54.615 Jim was after a bigger bowl. 00:36:54.705 --> 00:36:55.035 Hmm. 00:36:55.185 --> 00:36:57.975 And then I was just filming them, walking away. 00:36:57.975 --> 00:37:00.165 There's these awesome white birds, you know, I was like, 00:37:00.165 --> 00:37:01.214 oh, that's kind of a cool shot. 00:37:01.485 --> 00:37:04.605 And I could hear stuff all of a sudden in my headphones on the left side, I was 00:37:04.605 --> 00:37:06.735 like, oh, that sounds like a something. 00:37:07.095 --> 00:37:10.214 And I hit pause with, on a full zoom on the, uh, camera. 00:37:10.365 --> 00:37:10.665 Yeah. 00:37:10.875 --> 00:37:15.015 Anyways, the hippo came flying out and I hit record as I was 00:37:15.015 --> 00:37:18.105 running back and pulling wide on the, those old tape cameras. 00:37:18.105 --> 00:37:18.464 Yeah. 00:37:18.915 --> 00:37:19.245 Yeah. 00:37:19.245 --> 00:37:23.055 And yeah, I almost smoked them, but it would've got me, cuz 00:37:23.055 --> 00:37:24.464 technically I was the fourth guy. 00:37:24.525 --> 00:37:26.355 They all moved and he went there. 00:37:27.334 --> 00:37:27.944 I don't know. 00:37:27.944 --> 00:37:28.384 I dunno. 00:37:28.390 --> 00:37:30.075 Maybe it would've got me, I would've hopefully jumped outta 00:37:30.075 --> 00:37:31.185 the way or someone would've shot. 00:37:31.185 --> 00:37:31.904 But who knows? 00:37:31.904 --> 00:37:32.595 It happens quick. 00:37:32.595 --> 00:37:34.544 Like yeah, the charges happen quick. 00:37:34.544 --> 00:37:36.165 It happened with an elephant as well. 00:37:36.285 --> 00:37:36.584 Yeah. 00:37:36.674 --> 00:37:38.384 Um, that was insane. 00:37:38.865 --> 00:37:39.194 Yeah. 00:37:39.194 --> 00:37:41.024 And again, hunting elephants. 00:37:41.055 --> 00:37:41.625 Yes. 00:37:41.685 --> 00:37:42.464 Really bad. 00:37:42.464 --> 00:37:45.075 And it's very restricted and stuff for sure. 00:37:45.584 --> 00:37:50.535 Um, but yeah, we just happened upon 'em and it was just bad place, bad time. 00:37:50.535 --> 00:37:51.765 And they're very aggressive. 00:37:51.765 --> 00:37:55.694 So the pH had to step in for us, which was unfortunate. 00:37:55.964 --> 00:37:57.285 And, uh, a couple other charges. 00:37:58.125 --> 00:38:00.615 Uh, hunting, uh, the, yeah. 00:38:00.705 --> 00:38:03.165 Elephants in, uh, jungles of Cameroon too. 00:38:03.194 --> 00:38:05.685 Travis Bader: Got, I remember seeing some video footage. 00:38:05.685 --> 00:38:06.004 I, I 00:38:06.009 --> 00:38:07.035 Jesse Reardon: jumped back pretty hard on that one. 00:38:07.214 --> 00:38:07.754 Who, what's that? 00:38:09.134 --> 00:38:09.915 The one in Cameroon. 00:38:09.915 --> 00:38:11.265 I jumped back pretty hard on. 00:38:11.384 --> 00:38:11.595 Yeah. 00:38:11.595 --> 00:38:13.154 Just, it was just a random Yeah. 00:38:13.160 --> 00:38:13.904 Bad incident. 00:38:13.995 --> 00:38:14.415 But yeah. 00:38:15.105 --> 00:38:18.015 Travis Bader: I remember seeing a video footage you and a blind 00:38:18.194 --> 00:38:20.325 and it was a Oh, with the Lion? 00:38:20.330 --> 00:38:20.805 Lion. 00:38:21.075 --> 00:38:21.605 Oh yeah. 00:38:22.365 --> 00:38:23.895 And you could like, hear the breath 00:38:23.895 --> 00:38:24.404 Jesse Reardon: of the thing. 00:38:24.585 --> 00:38:25.035 Oh yeah. 00:38:25.035 --> 00:38:25.725 That was insane. 00:38:25.725 --> 00:38:29.504 So like, you're hunting whitetail, you'd get in in the dark, right? 00:38:29.504 --> 00:38:29.565 Yeah. 00:38:29.595 --> 00:38:34.935 So we did that with the lion and yeah, the lion came in and was 00:38:34.935 --> 00:38:36.855 roaring around our, the area. 00:38:36.975 --> 00:38:38.685 And then he walked right up to our blind. 00:38:38.685 --> 00:38:41.145 You could just see it like right when it's starting to get bright, like almost 00:38:41.145 --> 00:38:42.484 you can hear the birds coming, you know? 00:38:43.004 --> 00:38:46.214 And yeah, he walked right up to the blind and Jim and the pH 00:38:46.214 --> 00:38:48.855 said, Jim said, don't f and move. 00:38:49.035 --> 00:38:50.045 I was like, Ugh. 00:38:50.355 --> 00:38:53.384 And that's the only time I felt, uh, true fear actually in my life. 00:38:53.384 --> 00:38:53.984 Cuz um, 00:38:54.795 --> 00:38:55.754 Travis Bader: walk me through it. 00:38:55.904 --> 00:38:56.955 What was it like? 00:38:57.450 --> 00:38:58.890 True fear, the 00:38:58.890 --> 00:38:59.910 Jesse Reardon: whole experience. 00:39:00.330 --> 00:39:01.710 Oh, I was, I was done. 00:39:01.710 --> 00:39:05.250 I just, all I could see, I, I couldn't hit record cuz you'd see 00:39:05.250 --> 00:39:06.510 the light and it was too dark. 00:39:06.510 --> 00:39:10.500 Anyways, cameras didn't pick up, but the line came right to the blind. 00:39:10.500 --> 00:39:12.270 Like, here's the opening of the blind. 00:39:12.270 --> 00:39:12.450 Right? 00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:12.560 Yeah. 00:39:12.560 --> 00:39:14.880 Like, and my tripod camera's right there. 00:39:14.885 --> 00:39:18.300 So I just hid behind my, um, camera and I was like shaking like this. 00:39:18.750 --> 00:39:22.680 And then the lion, um, he circled us and the hyenas had eaten 00:39:22.680 --> 00:39:23.520 in the corner of the blind. 00:39:23.520 --> 00:39:26.760 So we had all these trees there and he is going through it and he's kind of, 00:39:27.900 --> 00:39:33.390 and he is like roaring right there, like crazy, crazy psycho line, right? 00:39:33.510 --> 00:39:34.800 I, I was just shaking. 00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:39.480 Jim's like, like I couldn't move cuz he is literally got five zippers, right? 00:39:39.600 --> 00:39:40.080 Yeah. 00:39:40.770 --> 00:39:41.550 That's all he has to do. 00:39:42.210 --> 00:39:47.790 Anyways, then he went out and went off and ran off and was freaking out in the trees. 00:39:47.790 --> 00:39:49.260 It was, yeah, it was quite an experience. 00:39:49.875 --> 00:39:50.625 . No kidding. 00:39:51.254 --> 00:39:51.795 Yeah. 00:39:52.035 --> 00:39:52.335 Opened 00:39:52.335 --> 00:39:52.845 Travis Bader: my eyes. 00:39:53.115 --> 00:39:57.855 I, I've been deer hunting and had mountain lion not that close. 00:39:57.944 --> 00:39:58.095 Oh, wow. 00:39:58.395 --> 00:40:00.315 Not that close, but heard it off. 00:40:00.555 --> 00:40:04.904 Uh, I, I never saw it, but I could hear the thing. 00:40:05.055 --> 00:40:05.714 The screech. 00:40:05.775 --> 00:40:06.315 Yeah. 00:40:06.444 --> 00:40:06.955 Oh, yeah. 00:40:06.975 --> 00:40:10.154 And it just kept doing it and doing it and doing it. 00:40:10.154 --> 00:40:14.055 And I'm sitting there in the, uh, in the freezing cold sitting there waiting. 00:40:14.055 --> 00:40:16.665 I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna be, I'm gonna sit still. 00:40:16.725 --> 00:40:19.214 I'm not gonna keep making my deer noises anymore. 00:40:19.245 --> 00:40:24.555 And, um, uh, but you know, you're, you're there with the rifle and I've 00:40:24.555 --> 00:40:28.785 got a sense that this thing's probably about 50 yards out on me, and it 00:40:28.785 --> 00:40:30.615 was just kind of doing its thing. 00:40:30.855 --> 00:40:31.095 Yeah. 00:40:31.335 --> 00:40:35.595 I wasn't feeling, um, like, and it was pitch black, right? 00:40:35.595 --> 00:40:35.865 Yeah. 00:40:35.895 --> 00:40:36.855 But, uh, early. 00:40:37.950 --> 00:40:38.250 . Yeah. 00:40:38.310 --> 00:40:41.790 I wa I wasn't feeling, I'm sure what I would be feeling if that 00:40:41.790 --> 00:40:43.650 thing was inches away from my face. 00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:44.250 Yeah. 00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:47.130 And all I've got between me and it is a camera. 00:40:47.220 --> 00:40:48.540 Like do you have a firearm with you? 00:40:48.540 --> 00:40:48.750 With you? 00:40:48.779 --> 00:40:49.410 No, but 00:40:49.410 --> 00:40:52.830 Jesse Reardon: I had like, like the guy I was with, Mike fell, he's like next level. 00:40:52.890 --> 00:40:53.880 So you're, yeah. 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:57.210 He's right there, there with a el, like he's there with an elephant gun and shock. 00:40:57.210 --> 00:40:58.290 He's there with a mu loader. 00:40:58.350 --> 00:40:58.830 Right. 00:40:59.490 --> 00:41:03.330 Um, yeah, I just, I, yeah, I've never, I always felt comfortable 00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:07.080 filming, even like, uh, in the Yukon filming moose and stuff. 00:41:07.500 --> 00:41:09.779 I'd always felt comfortable behind those guys. 00:41:10.020 --> 00:41:10.230 Yeah. 00:41:10.230 --> 00:41:11.550 Mojo shocky. 00:41:12.390 --> 00:41:13.680 Um, yeah. 00:41:13.680 --> 00:41:15.060 But I, yeah. 00:41:15.120 --> 00:41:18.570 Other people, when I go film, like friends and stuff, I'm like, I 00:41:18.570 --> 00:41:20.009 should probably have a rifle with me. 00:41:20.759 --> 00:41:21.090 . No. 00:41:21.990 --> 00:41:22.590 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:41:22.620 --> 00:41:24.840 Well, they're pretty well accomplished in what they do. 00:41:25.050 --> 00:41:25.380 Yeah. 00:41:26.430 --> 00:41:30.630 So you get this footage, not only are you like creative director, 00:41:30.750 --> 00:41:33.210 you're cameraman, then you gotta go back and edit it, it all. 00:41:33.240 --> 00:41:33.540 Okay. 00:41:33.540 --> 00:41:35.160 Jesse Reardon: So at this is what happened. 00:41:35.160 --> 00:41:38.610 So it was in Africa and had all these close calls, like Yeah. 00:41:38.610 --> 00:41:42.540 Had the elephant thing and had the, uh, almost got eaten by a lion. 00:41:42.630 --> 00:41:47.730 Al you know, pretty close calls, you know, did the lake swam with the, the Crocs. 00:41:48.570 --> 00:41:51.330 Um, meanwhile my wife was home pregnant with our first child. 00:41:51.390 --> 00:41:51.690 Hmm. 00:41:52.110 --> 00:41:53.250 So I'm like, so 00:41:53.250 --> 00:41:54.240 Travis Bader: your head's there. 00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:57.930 Jesse Reardon: Oh yeah, my head's there, but it's the 45 day trip too. 00:41:57.935 --> 00:42:01.830 And we were hunting red stag in Turkey and there was like hunting dinosaurs. 00:42:01.830 --> 00:42:02.430 It was crazy. 00:42:02.430 --> 00:42:04.290 They were like running deer. 00:42:04.290 --> 00:42:06.210 And anyways, it was, it was a good push. 00:42:06.210 --> 00:42:08.610 I loved it cause I wanted to travel on like the best job ever. 00:42:08.610 --> 00:42:10.260 But when you do have, uh, family and. 00:42:10.905 --> 00:42:12.615 And, uh, responsibilities. 00:42:12.795 --> 00:42:12.825 Mm. 00:42:13.755 --> 00:42:16.185 You have to kind of, uh, yeah. 00:42:16.575 --> 00:42:17.145 Figure it out. 00:42:17.145 --> 00:42:18.465 So that's what I did. 00:42:18.565 --> 00:42:19.425 I, I called. 00:42:19.455 --> 00:42:23.175 Yeah, we, that's when, um, I said, we need to get a new cameraman on 00:42:23.175 --> 00:42:25.125 board and I gotta focus on hunt veers. 00:42:25.425 --> 00:42:25.935 Right. 00:42:25.935 --> 00:42:26.535 Gotta answer your 00:42:26.535 --> 00:42:27.045 Travis Bader: question. 00:42:27.675 --> 00:42:29.715 Well, I was just talking about the editing, I guess. 00:42:29.715 --> 00:42:31.125 So you had a new cameraman on board 00:42:31.125 --> 00:42:35.405 Jesse Reardon: and you're Yeah, so I, I focused more on doing how and lens Okay. 00:42:35.405 --> 00:42:36.495 And North America stuff. 00:42:36.495 --> 00:42:38.565 I'd film like a little bit, like local trips. 00:42:38.605 --> 00:42:38.805 Mm-hmm. 00:42:38.885 --> 00:42:41.775 , but going on the dangerous stuff I focused on, uh, just edit. 00:42:41.865 --> 00:42:43.755 So basically cameraman would. 00:42:44.190 --> 00:42:47.250 You know, Jim would go on these trips and he'd come back and we'd 00:42:47.250 --> 00:42:49.740 figure out how many episodes we had to make out of that footage. 00:42:50.310 --> 00:42:55.200 Um, back then it was, um, we went from 13 shows a year to 26 shows a year to 20 00:42:55.200 --> 00:42:57.570 shows a year, and he was on for 17 years. 00:42:57.570 --> 00:42:59.610 Like, that's more in mash? 00:42:59.610 --> 00:43:01.620 No, I don't know if MASH was longer than that. 00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:04.540 I, I'm trying to think of an old show he'd like, like Mash or 00:43:04.865 --> 00:43:06.570 Travis Bader: or like, I think MASH was pretty long, wasn't it? 00:43:06.600 --> 00:43:06.960 I don't know. 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:07.860 Married with children. 00:43:07.860 --> 00:43:08.430 What would he watch? 00:43:08.980 --> 00:43:10.080 Probably, probably more than Married With the children. 00:43:10.080 --> 00:43:10.380 Yeah. 00:43:10.470 --> 00:43:10.620 I 00:43:10.780 --> 00:43:10.860 Jesse Reardon: don. 00:43:11.310 --> 00:43:13.650 Um, Al Bundy, but it lasted 17 years. 00:43:13.650 --> 00:43:13.920 And 00:43:13.980 --> 00:43:15.720 Travis Bader: was it four touchdowns to the single game 00:43:15.810 --> 00:43:18.080 Po Kai ? Was that what it was? 00:43:18.080 --> 00:43:19.759 Or was the three touchdowns, I dunno, 00:43:20.370 --> 00:43:21.040 Jesse Reardon: anyways. 00:43:21.150 --> 00:43:21.600 Yeah. 00:43:22.050 --> 00:43:25.650 But yeah, edit editing was, um, it was, it was a, you know, that's where 00:43:25.650 --> 00:43:29.490 you sit down, you get, you gotta be a healthy, try to stay healthy cuz 00:43:29.495 --> 00:43:33.390 I, I, I preferred be in the bush and filming or being out there. 00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:38.880 Um, but I also pretty picky editor, um, in terms of telling stories 00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.960 and just like really chopping down footage and using the good stuff and, 00:43:42.990 --> 00:43:48.360 um, entertaining people and telling stories with good music and good cuts. 00:43:48.365 --> 00:43:48.640 Yeah. 00:43:48.930 --> 00:43:49.440 So 00:43:49.445 --> 00:43:53.835 Travis Bader: when you're looking, so good cuts, uh, Establishing shots, wide 00:43:53.835 --> 00:43:56.835 angle, uh, zoom in stuff like I, I watch. 00:43:57.165 --> 00:43:57.375 Yeah. 00:43:57.435 --> 00:43:58.725 Like we're looking around the studio here. 00:43:58.725 --> 00:44:02.145 We got a couple little cameras and the camera front and Yeah. 00:44:02.145 --> 00:44:04.215 I've tried my hand at doing some filming. 00:44:04.245 --> 00:44:09.105 I realize that there's way better people out there at doing that, but I'm sure 00:44:09.105 --> 00:44:14.384 if I got some basics of, um, like we did a, a rafting trip down the Thompson, 00:44:14.384 --> 00:44:18.585 me and a couple of friends, and we, um, I got a whitewater raft, another 00:44:18.745 --> 00:44:21.105 fells, um, did some search and rescue. 00:44:21.105 --> 00:44:23.685 So we borrowed their, uh, their rowing frame for it. 00:44:23.685 --> 00:44:23.745 Yeah. 00:44:23.750 --> 00:44:27.735 And we spent a week just going a hundred K down the river and Sweet. 00:44:28.095 --> 00:44:28.515 Yeah. 00:44:28.545 --> 00:44:28.785 Yeah. 00:44:28.785 --> 00:44:30.285 It was a, uh, where's the 00:44:30.285 --> 00:44:30.615 Jesse Reardon: footage? 00:44:31.260 --> 00:44:33.180 Travis Bader: Well, it's, it's sitting on my hard drives. 00:44:33.185 --> 00:44:33.450 Right. 00:44:33.810 --> 00:44:33.960 . Nice. 00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:37.290 So actually Cannon had lent me a, uh, a camera at the time. 00:44:37.290 --> 00:44:37.410 What? 00:44:37.890 --> 00:44:40.560 Yeah, they, they're just based outta here in, in Richmond. 00:44:40.560 --> 00:44:41.180 They're, oh yeah. 00:44:41.185 --> 00:44:41.370 Nice. 00:44:41.430 --> 00:44:44.660 So they're like, oh, you gotta check out this new R six camera and Oh, nice. 00:44:44.660 --> 00:44:45.240 I was like, no, no, no. 00:44:45.240 --> 00:44:49.740 I, I've been using the 5G Mark four and I had the 5G Mark two before 00:44:49.740 --> 00:44:53.490 and said, no, this new digital one, you're really gonna like it. 00:44:53.490 --> 00:44:55.920 I don't think they knew I was gonna be taking it for a week, 00:44:55.980 --> 00:44:57.210 just floating down a river. 00:44:57.450 --> 00:44:57.750 Yeah. 00:44:58.020 --> 00:45:00.690 Uh, and then I took it into the Yukon and we took a little 00:45:00.690 --> 00:45:03.060 boat down Tesla and, oh, Tesla. 00:45:03.120 --> 00:45:03.630 Yeah. 00:45:03.750 --> 00:45:04.140 Yeah. 00:45:04.500 --> 00:45:06.705 That was, uh, I did do got a nice 00:45:06.705 --> 00:45:07.380 Jesse Reardon: moose. 00:45:07.860 --> 00:45:08.790 Yeah, I did a Tesla. 00:45:08.790 --> 00:45:10.110 I filmed the Tesla moose hunt. 00:45:10.260 --> 00:45:10.980 Did you really? 00:45:11.040 --> 00:45:11.610 Last year. 00:45:11.670 --> 00:45:11.940 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:45:11.940 --> 00:45:12.820 So in 2021. 00:45:12.820 --> 00:45:12.940 Yeah. 00:45:12.945 --> 00:45:15.780 So buddy of mine, actually, he's just recovering right now. 00:45:15.780 --> 00:45:19.020 He's, um, uh, gave us all quite a scare. 00:45:19.020 --> 00:45:21.450 He is a helicopter pilot and, uh, yikes. 00:45:21.510 --> 00:45:26.770 Uh, anyways, um, a few months ago, he, um, Yeah, I guess it's about a 00:45:26.775 --> 00:45:28.410 month and a half now, two months ago. 00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:30.480 Um, he's lives in the Yukon. 00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:33.930 He was, uh, taking his quad home on the side. 00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:35.700 I guess he figured he'd make a splash in the puddle. 00:45:35.700 --> 00:45:37.680 And next thing you know, he cracked his skull open. 00:45:37.680 --> 00:45:40.800 His, uh, uh, punctured his lung. 00:45:41.100 --> 00:45:41.570 Oh, man. 00:45:41.580 --> 00:45:43.770 Um, had broke, broken clavicle. 00:45:43.770 --> 00:45:48.210 Yeah, no, they had had him intubated for quite a long time and we, we weren't 00:45:48.210 --> 00:45:49.740 too sure kind of how that work out. 00:45:49.770 --> 00:45:53.940 But, uh, anyways, he's, he's in the recovery stage right now, but 00:45:53.940 --> 00:45:57.420 he's helicopter pilot and he says, you know, I've, I've seen this, 00:45:57.420 --> 00:46:02.024 um, Uh, cow, moose and previous trips and there's a certain area. 00:46:02.085 --> 00:46:02.285 Yeah. 00:46:02.665 --> 00:46:06.884 Why, why don't we just take a, our, my little uh, 16 foot Lund 00:46:06.890 --> 00:46:10.035 with a little 60 horsepower, two-stroke outboard on this thing. 00:46:10.035 --> 00:46:14.234 And uh, we'll take it from the Yukon down to the BC side where you're at and Nice. 00:46:14.475 --> 00:46:16.125 Yeah, it was my fast 00:46:16.125 --> 00:46:17.774 Jesse Reardon: down the Tesla Uhhuh . Oh, 00:46:17.779 --> 00:46:18.165 Travis Bader: nice. 00:46:18.165 --> 00:46:18.345 Yeah. 00:46:18.345 --> 00:46:20.835 It was the fastest, uh, moose hunt I've ever done. 00:46:20.895 --> 00:46:24.495 We got, uh, the hard, hard part was getting all the way out there. 00:46:24.495 --> 00:46:24.555 Yeah. 00:46:24.585 --> 00:46:25.694 Cuz that lake can pick up. 00:46:26.444 --> 00:46:31.605 And, uh, I went up there with my wife and with his partner and he 00:46:31.694 --> 00:46:36.524 set up a little camp on a tiny island as our bear protection, even 00:46:36.524 --> 00:46:37.845 though a bear could swim over there. 00:46:37.845 --> 00:46:38.444 No problem. 00:46:38.444 --> 00:46:44.670 But hopefully, hopefully it's a bit of, uh, A deterrent to dispute it. 00:46:44.670 --> 00:46:45.040 Oh yeah. 00:46:45.540 --> 00:46:51.000 And uh, we're finally, we get out there, we got everything set up we're doing, 00:46:51.060 --> 00:46:53.819 just sitting on a little island scope and like, is that a moose over there? 00:46:53.850 --> 00:46:54.180 I don't know. 00:46:54.180 --> 00:46:54.720 Let's go over. 00:46:54.725 --> 00:46:58.230 So we'll do a little, took the boat over to, we call it the mainland and Yeah. 00:46:58.500 --> 00:46:59.700 Stocked on over. 00:46:59.700 --> 00:47:00.690 Sat down and watched. 00:47:00.690 --> 00:47:01.830 No, no, it's not a moose. 00:47:01.830 --> 00:47:02.250 Okay. 00:47:03.210 --> 00:47:04.859 Waited four hours out. 00:47:04.859 --> 00:47:05.520 Waam moose. 00:47:05.790 --> 00:47:06.330 There we go. 00:47:06.720 --> 00:47:08.160 Cow bull. 00:47:08.490 --> 00:47:08.970 Wow. 00:47:09.000 --> 00:47:09.330 Yeah. 00:47:09.359 --> 00:47:09.839 Nice. 00:47:09.900 --> 00:47:10.259 Yeah. 00:47:10.319 --> 00:47:12.690 So that was, uh, and that was a long shot. 00:47:12.690 --> 00:47:16.350 I probably shouldn't say how long that was on uh, o on the air, but that was 00:47:16.350 --> 00:47:23.040 the, uh, the longest shot that I've taken an animal from . And um, it was, um, I 00:47:23.040 --> 00:47:26.040 don't, had we known, we had it ranged. 00:47:26.310 --> 00:47:26.370 Yeah. 00:47:26.370 --> 00:47:29.130 One, one in the party, I won't name names, ranged the. 00:47:29.730 --> 00:47:34.620 Uh, arranged the moose and, uh, in inappropriately, maybe they 00:47:34.650 --> 00:47:35.880 picked up on something else. 00:47:35.940 --> 00:47:36.240 Yeah. 00:47:36.240 --> 00:47:39.690 And uh, my wife who spotted it says, well, it's a bit far from me. 00:47:39.750 --> 00:47:39.990 I'm like, 00:47:40.420 --> 00:47:41.460 Jesse Reardon: probably the cameraman messed it up. 00:47:41.970 --> 00:47:43.020 I think it was a cameraman. 00:47:43.050 --> 00:47:44.220 Just always blame on the cameraman. 00:47:44.250 --> 00:47:44.430 Yeah. 00:47:44.435 --> 00:47:45.300 Even if you don't have a camera man. 00:47:45.360 --> 00:47:46.800 Actually, I think the person's name is Jesse. 00:47:46.830 --> 00:47:47.010 Yeah. 00:47:47.010 --> 00:47:47.730 Everyone's a cameraman. 00:47:48.990 --> 00:47:49.710 , they messed everything up. 00:47:49.710 --> 00:47:50.430 Just use an iPhone. 00:47:50.520 --> 00:47:51.750 Travis Bader: Ah, damn camera man. 00:47:52.260 --> 00:47:53.250 But that's cool. 00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:53.640 Yeah. 00:47:53.640 --> 00:47:55.770 Anyways, I look at him, I'm like, ah, looks a little further. 00:47:55.775 --> 00:47:56.910 I'm gonna aim higher. 00:47:56.910 --> 00:48:01.740 And I just, um, uh, maybe it was luck that I, that I hit it, but, um, 00:48:02.280 --> 00:48:03.390 Jesse Reardon: how, how was the pack out? 00:48:03.870 --> 00:48:06.000 Travis Bader: Uh, it was, uh, it was a few trips out. 00:48:06.180 --> 00:48:06.600 Yeah. 00:48:06.780 --> 00:48:08.760 Uh, we were able to, cuz we got that. 00:48:09.300 --> 00:48:09.840 Got it. 00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:12.720 Uh, got it out, took care of it in the morning. 00:48:12.750 --> 00:48:12.810 Yeah. 00:48:12.900 --> 00:48:17.970 Um, uh, got it out onto a tarp, dragged all the, the guts away from it in 00:48:17.975 --> 00:48:21.570 the hopes that anything, any predator coming by will maybe want that. 00:48:21.630 --> 00:48:21.990 Right. 00:48:22.080 --> 00:48:22.350 Yeah. 00:48:22.830 --> 00:48:27.750 Um, and then made a little, couple fires around it and do our best to 00:48:27.750 --> 00:48:29.370 get our scent all over the area. 00:48:29.714 --> 00:48:30.089 Yeah. 00:48:30.149 --> 00:48:32.100 I come back in the morning, took care of it. 00:48:32.100 --> 00:48:35.100 Cuz I mean we were in, you know the area, it's grizzly 00:48:35.100 --> 00:48:35.549 Jesse Reardon: country. 00:48:35.609 --> 00:48:36.000 Yeah. 00:48:36.029 --> 00:48:39.660 First grizzly I ever filmed was on a, on a kill. 00:48:39.750 --> 00:48:40.589 That was intense. 00:48:40.770 --> 00:48:41.250 Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:48:41.254 --> 00:48:41.629 Yeah. 00:48:41.634 --> 00:48:41.850 Tell me 00:48:41.850 --> 00:48:42.240 Jesse Reardon: about it. 00:48:43.500 --> 00:48:43.799 Yeah. 00:48:43.799 --> 00:48:46.529 We were with muzzle loader and with a rifle backup and yeah. 00:48:47.009 --> 00:48:48.390 It was just the grizzly was sitting there. 00:48:48.390 --> 00:48:51.060 Uh, he had, he'd, he'd at that point buried it Okay. 00:48:51.060 --> 00:48:51.899 And he could sense us. 00:48:51.899 --> 00:48:53.750 So he was sitting there, uh, pounding it mm-hmm. 00:48:53.830 --> 00:48:56.190 and he was just sitting there looking out drooling like crazy 00:48:56.520 --> 00:48:57.569 cuz he could sense us in there. 00:48:57.575 --> 00:48:58.620 And we were in high willows. 00:48:58.799 --> 00:48:59.009 Yeah. 00:48:59.009 --> 00:49:01.589 Trying to find a, a mound to kind of get a good shot at him. 00:49:01.680 --> 00:49:02.520 About 80 yards. 00:49:02.589 --> 00:49:03.069 Yeah. 00:49:03.240 --> 00:49:03.359 Yeah. 00:49:03.470 --> 00:49:04.020 That was intense. 00:49:04.710 --> 00:49:05.609 80 yards on the grizzly. 00:49:06.240 --> 00:49:06.480 Yeah. 00:49:06.484 --> 00:49:08.759 That was the first, first, uh, thing I ever filmed. 00:49:09.029 --> 00:49:10.200 First animal I'd ever filmed. 00:49:10.205 --> 00:49:10.589 Shock he. 00:49:11.339 --> 00:49:11.745 . Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:49:11.774 --> 00:49:12.765 Did it go down right away? 00:49:12.975 --> 00:49:13.245 Yeah. 00:49:13.515 --> 00:49:13.875 Jesse Reardon: Okay. 00:49:14.024 --> 00:49:16.305 But pH that was intense. 00:49:16.365 --> 00:49:17.654 80 yards is close on it. 00:49:17.654 --> 00:49:18.075 Cruise. 00:49:18.734 --> 00:49:18.975 Yeah. 00:49:18.975 --> 00:49:19.815 Especially with the muzz loader. 00:49:19.815 --> 00:49:20.055 Yeah. 00:49:20.174 --> 00:49:20.495 Mm-hmm. 00:49:20.595 --> 00:49:21.015 . But yeah. 00:49:21.075 --> 00:49:22.694 Uh, you talked about long shots. 00:49:22.700 --> 00:49:24.674 Like we always tried for filming. 00:49:25.004 --> 00:49:27.435 It was always trying to get close as Right, like tried to keep 00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:28.424 it under a hundred if we could. 00:49:28.430 --> 00:49:30.975 Cuz we were used to kind, it was kind of like muzz or distance. 00:49:31.035 --> 00:49:31.605 Right. 00:49:31.694 --> 00:49:34.754 We always tried to try, tried to get to under a hundred except for when 00:49:34.754 --> 00:49:37.214 all of a sudden I'd be filming with like a guy with a client and we're 00:49:37.725 --> 00:49:39.825 suddenly, they're like 250, 300. 00:49:39.825 --> 00:49:41.055 I'm like, dude, we could have 00:49:41.984 --> 00:49:42.335 . We 00:49:42.335 --> 00:49:42.825 Travis Bader: got, we could have 00:49:42.825 --> 00:49:43.424 Jesse Reardon: got closer. 00:49:43.484 --> 00:49:43.694 Yeah. 00:49:43.694 --> 00:49:47.265 He was coming down to us like we, the winds, you know? 00:49:47.325 --> 00:49:47.685 Yeah. 00:49:48.044 --> 00:49:49.245 I was always thinking about filming. 00:49:49.245 --> 00:49:49.515 Right. 00:49:49.515 --> 00:49:54.495 Not hunting until I finally had put, picked up a rifle or a bow myself. 00:49:55.335 --> 00:49:56.265 Travis Bader: So yeah. 00:49:56.294 --> 00:49:57.435 Jim got you into hunting. 00:49:57.734 --> 00:49:58.245 Totally. 00:49:58.904 --> 00:50:00.165 What was your first hunt you did with him? 00:50:01.065 --> 00:50:02.265 First hunt I did with Jim? 00:50:02.355 --> 00:50:02.595 Yeah. 00:50:02.595 --> 00:50:03.855 Would would that be your first hunt? 00:50:04.274 --> 00:50:05.234 Jesse Reardon: No, no. 00:50:05.234 --> 00:50:08.895 I started, he just got me, he, he opened my curiosity to it. 00:50:08.984 --> 00:50:09.375 Okay. 00:50:09.945 --> 00:50:13.335 And he kind of, uh, helped me appreciate what it was actually about. 00:50:13.855 --> 00:50:14.345 Okay. 00:50:14.655 --> 00:50:17.655 It was about, you know, going out, having fun. 00:50:18.285 --> 00:50:23.025 Um, you learn a lot about the dudes or the, the people you hunt with or the, the 00:50:23.025 --> 00:50:25.005 late, you know, your wife or whatever. 00:50:25.005 --> 00:50:25.275 Yep. 00:50:25.785 --> 00:50:29.325 You learn a lot out there about each other, and your, the phones are way, 00:50:29.325 --> 00:50:33.375 the screens are way, and you work for your, for what you, you know, 00:50:33.375 --> 00:50:34.845 you work for what you bring mm-hmm. 00:50:35.065 --> 00:50:36.285 and you use all the meat, all this stuff. 00:50:36.285 --> 00:50:37.395 It was all about that. 00:50:37.395 --> 00:50:38.775 So, yeah. 00:50:38.780 --> 00:50:41.565 And for me, I've always liked fishing and I, you know, if I catch a salmon, 00:50:41.570 --> 00:50:45.675 if I catch a aling cod, if I get a cod on the island here, I'm gonna keep it. 00:50:45.680 --> 00:50:48.705 And if I, I usually wanna catch a bigger fish. 00:50:49.125 --> 00:50:49.455 Sure. 00:50:49.455 --> 00:50:53.535 So it's like, you know, some people want to get a bigger deer. 00:50:53.685 --> 00:50:53.985 Okay. 00:50:54.045 --> 00:50:54.375 Yep. 00:50:54.385 --> 00:50:55.065 You know, they. 00:50:55.694 --> 00:50:58.484 They're not necessarily trophy hunting, they're just, they want to enjoy, 00:50:58.484 --> 00:51:00.105 like, why would you end your hunt? 00:51:00.194 --> 00:51:03.045 Or why would you end your, if fishing open for three months, a year, why would 00:51:03.045 --> 00:51:05.505 you like be fished out or hunting it? 00:51:05.535 --> 00:51:06.285 Like, you know? 00:51:06.285 --> 00:51:06.565 Right. 00:51:06.765 --> 00:51:10.545 It's nice to enjoy the hunt and, and I get, it's all about meat and 00:51:10.549 --> 00:51:13.424 getting the meat, but it's, uh, yeah. 00:51:13.455 --> 00:51:14.355 I don't know where I'm going with that, 00:51:14.359 --> 00:51:15.825 Travis Bader: but I, I, well, the actual pulling of the 00:51:15.830 --> 00:51:17.595 trigger, that's, that's that. 00:51:18.105 --> 00:51:18.585 Jesse Reardon: And yeah. 00:51:18.585 --> 00:51:21.525 And there's a lot of responsibility that goes once you do pull that trigger. 00:51:21.585 --> 00:51:21.734 Right. 00:51:21.734 --> 00:51:21.795 You 00:51:21.795 --> 00:51:22.995 Travis Bader: can't call that shot back. 00:51:23.085 --> 00:51:23.525 Can't call with shot. 00:51:23.525 --> 00:51:24.615 You gotta make sure it's an ethical shot. 00:51:24.615 --> 00:51:28.605 You gotta make sure that, uh, you're gonna be able to retrieve and in, in all 00:51:28.605 --> 00:51:29.984 Jesse Reardon: the wrecks, deal with everything you Yeah. 00:51:30.015 --> 00:51:33.255 Deal with it and make sure everything that you can use gets used and, 00:51:33.795 --> 00:51:35.145 but it's a good way to eat. 00:51:35.880 --> 00:51:36.870 Travis Bader: It's a fantastic way. 00:51:36.930 --> 00:51:39.330 Some of the best meals are just sitting around the campfire. 00:51:39.330 --> 00:51:39.630 Yeah. 00:51:39.810 --> 00:51:45.000 With a cast iron, some butter and tenderloins and Yeah. 00:51:45.005 --> 00:51:46.560 Jesse Reardon: So it's just, it's natural. 00:51:46.560 --> 00:51:47.040 Good way to eat. 00:51:47.045 --> 00:51:50.550 So yeah, it's almost like, uh, eating healthy in terms of meat. 00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:53.220 Travis Bader: But you did a film hunt with Jim, didn't you? 00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:53.400 I 00:51:53.405 --> 00:51:53.700 Jesse Reardon: did. 00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:57.060 So that Shocky finally let me, um, he almost let me hunt 00:51:57.060 --> 00:51:58.740 a whitetail like years ago. 00:51:58.800 --> 00:51:59.190 Yeah. 00:51:59.310 --> 00:52:04.800 Because back then we used to film, um, cameraman and other people, like 00:52:04.860 --> 00:52:07.290 kind of that worked with Jim just hunted in Whitetail cuz you could 00:52:07.295 --> 00:52:08.610 get a whitetail tag pretty easy. 00:52:08.670 --> 00:52:08.970 Right. 00:52:09.270 --> 00:52:11.190 So I got one, one season, didn't get anything. 00:52:11.370 --> 00:52:15.780 Anyways, he let me, uh, he let me shoot a caribou in the, in the covid year. 00:52:16.560 --> 00:52:17.670 And that was a nice fucking caribou. 00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:18.300 That was a nice caribou. 00:52:18.300 --> 00:52:19.050 It was a Jesse Bowl. 00:52:19.055 --> 00:52:20.550 He called it The Jesse Bowl. 00:52:20.640 --> 00:52:20.940 Yeah. 00:52:20.940 --> 00:52:21.600 Jesse Bowl. 00:52:21.600 --> 00:52:24.840 Which is like a, just a nice respectable animal. 00:52:24.900 --> 00:52:25.080 Yeah. 00:52:26.610 --> 00:52:27.120 , the whole hunt. 00:52:27.150 --> 00:52:28.050 It's not a Jimbo. 00:52:28.200 --> 00:52:29.010 No, it's not a Jimbo. 00:52:29.610 --> 00:52:30.450 I heard about the Jimbo. 00:52:30.450 --> 00:52:31.800 He almost put me on a Jimbo. 00:52:31.860 --> 00:52:32.070 Yeah. 00:52:32.070 --> 00:52:32.790 Actually he did. 00:52:33.210 --> 00:52:34.140 Yeah, but wo Joe. 00:52:34.140 --> 00:52:34.440 Got it. 00:52:34.440 --> 00:52:34.770 Yeah. 00:52:34.799 --> 00:52:37.319 It was like a 4 0 4 24 or something. 00:52:37.380 --> 00:52:37.650 Yeah. 00:52:37.710 --> 00:52:38.430 Mountain Caribou. 00:52:38.430 --> 00:52:38.670 Yeah. 00:52:39.060 --> 00:52:43.080 But mine was like a nice, Jesse Bulls, like a . Not that you score stuff, but 00:52:43.110 --> 00:52:46.560 you know, I, I brought home that meat, the Caribou, and then wo Joe, uh, let 00:52:46.560 --> 00:52:48.600 me bring home half, uh, his moose. 00:52:48.600 --> 00:52:50.520 So That's okay. 00:52:50.580 --> 00:52:51.009 Good stuff. 00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:54.720 You know, I'm not, I'm not definitely not a hardcore hunter, but, uh, I 00:52:54.720 --> 00:52:56.759 just, you know, enjoy being out there. 00:52:56.819 --> 00:52:58.650 It's a good, uh, good thing for the head. 00:52:59.160 --> 00:53:00.049 Where was the caribou? 00:53:00.049 --> 00:53:01.410 The kids Caribou's Yukon. 00:53:01.500 --> 00:53:01.860 Okay. 00:53:01.860 --> 00:53:02.880 Up at Jim's camp. 00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:05.580 Um, yeah, it was really good. 00:53:06.810 --> 00:53:07.620 It was a nice bowl. 00:53:07.799 --> 00:53:09.330 It was, yeah, it was nice. 00:53:09.330 --> 00:53:09.960 Didn't let me shoot it. 00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:12.779 And then we, uh, did a couple episodes on the Shock Therapy with that. 00:53:13.020 --> 00:53:13.380 Yeah. 00:53:13.410 --> 00:53:16.589 So when Hunt Ventures ended, we, we kind of wanted to, um, figure 00:53:16.589 --> 00:53:20.910 out a way to conserve the footage and, uh, you know, rehash it. 00:53:20.915 --> 00:53:22.170 So we came up with this concept. 00:53:22.904 --> 00:53:24.525 Doing like a podcast like you're doing. 00:53:24.585 --> 00:53:24.915 Yeah. 00:53:25.424 --> 00:53:29.115 But um, bringing back old guests that were part of Hunted Ventures Yukon 00:53:29.115 --> 00:53:33.105 Uncharted, uncharted guides, people that in the industry, and they sit 00:53:33.105 --> 00:53:36.285 there and talk with Jim and they rehash the footage that we had on file. 00:53:36.375 --> 00:53:37.545 How's Shock Therapy going? 00:53:38.055 --> 00:53:38.444 Pretty good. 00:53:38.444 --> 00:53:40.215 I think it's going in the season three maybe. 00:53:40.275 --> 00:53:45.015 Yeah, I did most of the season one and then a bit of season two I ended my, uh, 00:53:45.075 --> 00:53:49.995 career with on, uh, the, I wanted to do the last four Todd Bisson in episodes. 00:53:50.085 --> 00:53:50.384 Yeah. 00:53:50.565 --> 00:53:51.345 So I did those. 00:53:51.350 --> 00:53:55.485 He was Todd Bisson, the guy, the cameraman who filled in when I kind of stepped 00:53:55.485 --> 00:54:02.040 down when I, um, started having babies , and, uh, yeah, that was, that was good. 00:54:02.040 --> 00:54:04.920 I, I did wanna do the Bojo episodes, but I didn't quite make it there. 00:54:05.310 --> 00:54:09.180 Travis Bader: That looks like a, a tough show to edit. 00:54:09.420 --> 00:54:09.810 Yeah. 00:54:09.870 --> 00:54:13.620 Just because it's cut after cut after cut and then find the right clips to 00:54:13.620 --> 00:54:15.301 put in and, and then cut, cut, cut. 00:54:15.450 --> 00:54:16.950 Jesse Reardon: In the end, it looks really simple, but. 00:54:17.820 --> 00:54:21.780 No, you can keep it super simple, but if you're really trying to, you're basically 00:54:21.780 --> 00:54:26.130 trying to match a visual to almost every clip, every two to three seconds. 00:54:26.190 --> 00:54:27.360 And then you have to search for it all. 00:54:27.450 --> 00:54:28.050 Yeah, search for it. 00:54:28.055 --> 00:54:31.350 And then you get to also, we on those, we'd cut into the, uh, 00:54:31.350 --> 00:54:32.880 actual episode really quick. 00:54:32.940 --> 00:54:33.180 Mm-hmm. 00:54:33.690 --> 00:54:36.090 and some of the older shows you're dealing with mixed audio. 00:54:36.120 --> 00:54:38.040 Other ones, you're not dealing with mixed audio. 00:54:38.340 --> 00:54:41.580 So like you have four channel audio where you could separate the music. 00:54:41.580 --> 00:54:43.890 And then other ones you're bringing in music Right. 00:54:43.950 --> 00:54:46.470 Attached to like, it's old school, you know? 00:54:46.530 --> 00:54:46.740 So 00:54:46.970 --> 00:54:49.590 Travis Bader: as, as cameraman, are you also the audio person? 00:54:50.070 --> 00:54:50.640 Jesse Reardon: Well, yeah. 00:54:50.640 --> 00:54:53.010 For Shocky, for those trips you were, because you were just 00:54:53.010 --> 00:54:54.360 like, it was just one cameraman. 00:54:54.750 --> 00:54:58.050 For some of the other stuff it was two, but all you just had wireless mic and 00:54:58.050 --> 00:55:00.130 shotgun, or you always listen on he. 00:55:00.794 --> 00:55:02.424 So yeah, they all for Wow. 00:55:02.430 --> 00:55:04.214 For audio guys it was a disaster. 00:55:04.365 --> 00:55:04.754 Yeah. 00:55:04.785 --> 00:55:07.845 So eventually, like I used to do everything and then like no audio, 00:55:07.875 --> 00:55:10.365 like I just submit with my audio mix. 00:55:10.365 --> 00:55:13.455 And then eventually we got a audio guy to start mixing the shows. 00:55:13.544 --> 00:55:13.785 Yeah. 00:55:14.145 --> 00:55:17.355 And then he'd provide us with the, you could separate all the wave files. 00:55:17.384 --> 00:55:17.444 Yeah. 00:55:17.444 --> 00:55:19.634 So you could separate the mix, you could separate sound effects. 00:55:19.634 --> 00:55:20.865 And so I'd get that in the end. 00:55:21.134 --> 00:55:23.895 Plus you get the stereo mix, you 00:55:23.895 --> 00:55:25.424 Travis Bader: know, very first good stuff. 00:55:25.515 --> 00:55:29.024 Episode of the Silvercore podcast that I recorded, it was all single track. 00:55:29.265 --> 00:55:31.004 Jesse Reardon: Oh, it's all like, everything's mixed in 00:55:31.004 --> 00:55:31.665 Travis Bader: stereo mix stuff. 00:55:31.845 --> 00:55:32.745 One single track. 00:55:32.745 --> 00:55:33.884 We had three people. 00:55:33.944 --> 00:55:38.294 Uh, it was, uh, myself, a couple friends, Paul and Nick, and they're 00:55:38.294 --> 00:55:39.975 both retired Vancouver for police. 00:55:39.975 --> 00:55:43.575 And when one was talking, the other one was sitting there 00:55:43.575 --> 00:55:44.774 breathing in the microphone. 00:55:44.779 --> 00:55:48.404 And I couldn't get rid of that because I. 00:55:49.230 --> 00:55:50.640 I had it all on one track. 00:55:50.640 --> 00:55:52.410 And so right after that I'm like, forget this. 00:55:52.410 --> 00:55:54.359 I gotta go out and do multi-track. 00:55:54.390 --> 00:55:54.450 Yeah. 00:55:54.509 --> 00:55:59.549 But when I first started editing, I know one fellow in particular, visually 00:55:59.555 --> 00:56:00.750 you could see on the wave form. 00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:01.080 Mm-hmm. 00:56:01.680 --> 00:56:04.470 , every time that he would talk, you'd go, oh, no. 00:56:04.475 --> 00:56:06.210 Like before he 20, youd see his little tick mark. 00:56:06.210 --> 00:56:06.299 Mm-hmm. 00:56:06.569 --> 00:56:09.930 . So I'd go through and I'd, I'd remove all the ticks because I wanna make sure that 00:56:10.109 --> 00:56:13.380 my guest comes across in the best way or someone's got a lot of ums and ahs. 00:56:13.384 --> 00:56:16.049 I'd go through and edit all of those out and fade 'em. 00:56:16.055 --> 00:56:17.490 It took forever. 00:56:18.420 --> 00:56:19.410 I have a secret for that. 00:56:20.009 --> 00:56:20.819 . Okay, let's hear it. 00:56:20.910 --> 00:56:22.259 I'm not, I don't do it anymore, but 00:56:22.259 --> 00:56:22.720 Jesse Reardon: what's the secret? 00:56:22.720 --> 00:56:24.720 Oh, I have to cut out so many ums and ahs still. 00:56:24.779 --> 00:56:25.290 What's the secret? 00:56:25.290 --> 00:56:26.000 I'm obsessing. 00:56:26.399 --> 00:56:28.200 It's those little markers you get. 00:56:28.370 --> 00:56:28.830 Oh yeah. 00:56:28.830 --> 00:56:30.000 Travis Bader: You can read an, um, you 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:32.730 Jesse Reardon: just mark it, mark the heck of that, that timeline. 00:56:32.730 --> 00:56:35.279 Then you go through and chop off the heck of it, and then you go through 00:56:35.339 --> 00:56:38.100 delete it all, and then you just take that timeline and you sink it down. 00:56:38.160 --> 00:56:38.580 Yeah. 00:56:38.669 --> 00:56:39.690 It's a nightmare. 00:56:40.020 --> 00:56:45.450 But I mean, I've created a lot of crazy sentence sentences, uh, chopped stuff up. 00:56:45.779 --> 00:56:48.089 It's not, I, I wouldn't say edited is very fun. 00:56:48.089 --> 00:56:50.790 I'm trying to look at new, uh, new things to do now. 00:56:50.799 --> 00:56:51.240 Yeah. 00:56:51.270 --> 00:56:51.569 Yeah. 00:56:51.600 --> 00:56:51.839 Well, 00:56:51.845 --> 00:56:54.960 Travis Bader: um, I guess what I was getting at was, did you find 00:56:54.964 --> 00:56:58.680 yourself doing a lot of things that later on you thought like, 00:56:58.740 --> 00:56:59.910 why the hell am I doing this? 00:56:59.910 --> 00:57:06.060 Like, for me, I would, I would very carefully edit the audio so that no 00:57:06.060 --> 00:57:08.669 one could hear where those tick marks, where the ums were or anything else. 00:57:08.669 --> 00:57:10.259 So you could see an, um, it looks like a fish. 00:57:10.440 --> 00:57:10.620 Yeah. 00:57:10.620 --> 00:57:13.919 Essentially in, uh, in audition or in your wave form. 00:57:14.190 --> 00:57:14.279 Mm-hmm. 00:57:14.549 --> 00:57:15.990 and I'd, and I'd scrub 'em all out. 00:57:17.505 --> 00:57:18.975 , but my style changed. 00:57:19.095 --> 00:57:19.455 Yeah. 00:57:19.695 --> 00:57:23.505 And I figured I'll just talk better and I'll train myself to stop doing that. 00:57:23.565 --> 00:57:23.925 Yeah, 00:57:23.955 --> 00:57:24.465 Jesse Reardon: nice. 00:57:24.525 --> 00:57:27.225 But then you get random guests who say, um, um, um, or they 00:57:27.225 --> 00:57:28.545 have a word whisper or something. 00:57:28.634 --> 00:57:29.445 Yeah, word whisper. 00:57:29.450 --> 00:57:29.755 Yeah. 00:57:29.755 --> 00:57:32.865 But yeah, you get, you get kind of good at your craft and I just got 00:57:32.870 --> 00:57:36.975 fast that no one I, I got fast cuz so after we had a bunch of cameramen 00:57:36.980 --> 00:57:41.505 and you know, Matt Zil really took on seven, eight years of filming Shocky. 00:57:41.565 --> 00:57:41.775 Yeah. 00:57:42.015 --> 00:57:45.345 He's probably like, he's like, he's probably the goat. 00:57:45.585 --> 00:57:46.075 Yeah. 00:57:46.215 --> 00:57:46.485 Yeah. 00:57:46.485 --> 00:57:47.715 He's, he's next level. 00:57:47.835 --> 00:57:50.355 He's got a wicked uh, yeah, he's really good. 00:57:50.775 --> 00:57:53.325 Anyways, so you get used to working with the camera has footage, right? 00:57:53.445 --> 00:57:53.655 Yeah. 00:57:53.655 --> 00:57:57.465 So you get really quick at your job, you get really quick at chopping Jim up, you 00:57:57.465 --> 00:57:59.235 know, but when you get the random guy. 00:58:00.450 --> 00:58:00.600 , then 00:58:00.600 --> 00:58:01.860 Travis Bader: it's, you just 00:58:02.040 --> 00:58:03.360 Jesse Reardon: have a, that process that just 00:58:03.870 --> 00:58:05.580 Travis Bader: What about a 32 bit float? 00:58:05.850 --> 00:58:07.920 Is that, uh, something you use in your 00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:08.910 Jesse Reardon: audio or No? 00:58:08.910 --> 00:58:11.640 I, I, I send my audio to the audio guy now. 00:58:11.730 --> 00:58:12.000 Oh. 00:58:12.005 --> 00:58:13.050 But I do get smart. 00:58:13.350 --> 00:58:17.040 I don't like, I still for, for sh the show I did. 00:58:17.100 --> 00:58:17.110 Yeah. 00:58:17.430 --> 00:58:17.610 Okay. 00:58:17.610 --> 00:58:20.310 So he'd get the final, next, Mixo is perfect for tv. 00:58:20.370 --> 00:58:20.880 Awesome. 00:58:21.090 --> 00:58:23.010 So he'd blend everything nice together. 00:58:23.100 --> 00:58:23.430 Yeah. 00:58:23.490 --> 00:58:24.750 But I'd still get a good blend. 00:58:24.750 --> 00:58:25.920 But to me it sounded good. 00:58:26.485 --> 00:58:26.670 . Travis Bader: Yeah. 00:58:27.540 --> 00:58:30.450 What, what would you tell somebody if they want to go out there and start kind 00:58:30.455 --> 00:58:32.070 of filming their own, any equipment? 00:58:32.070 --> 00:58:33.750 What are the, what are the must haves? 00:58:34.830 --> 00:58:35.190 Jesse Reardon: Hmm. 00:58:36.330 --> 00:58:38.100 Well, definitely good gear for the weather. 00:58:38.105 --> 00:58:38.440 Travis Bader: Okay. 00:58:39.540 --> 00:58:40.350 , like a GoPro there. 00:58:40.350 --> 00:58:40.890 Waterproof 00:58:40.890 --> 00:58:41.820 Jesse Reardon: or, well, no. 00:58:41.820 --> 00:58:43.230 Yeah, so I mean, yeah. 00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:45.090 You know, GoPro, I didn't use much. 00:58:45.090 --> 00:58:47.280 I mean, if you can get a good GoPro mount for sure. 00:58:47.340 --> 00:58:48.900 Set that up as a wide angle, but. 00:58:51.165 --> 00:58:53.205 Honestly, you could, you could, honestly, the iPhones are so good 00:58:53.205 --> 00:58:55.035 these days, but I wouldn't say that. 00:58:55.095 --> 00:58:55.995 But it depends. 00:58:55.995 --> 00:58:58.484 If you're a Cannon guy, Sony guy, I use the Sonys now. 00:58:58.490 --> 00:59:00.825 So the Sony a S 73 is pretty good. 00:59:00.825 --> 00:59:04.725 And yeah, Sony FX six and Sony Fs, this and that. 00:59:04.754 --> 00:59:05.415 Just cuz 00:59:05.475 --> 00:59:07.305 Travis Bader: you got into their system. 00:59:07.395 --> 00:59:07.455 Jesse Reardon: Yeah. 00:59:07.455 --> 00:59:07.754 Rid that. 00:59:07.754 --> 00:59:11.004 But the biggest thing is just documenting and telling the story. 00:59:11.004 --> 00:59:11.365 Mm-hmm. 00:59:11.444 --> 00:59:15.194 . And then when you see the wildlife, don't spook it and, uh, try and 00:59:15.200 --> 00:59:18.285 capture the best of your abilities, but the B and getting good audio. 00:59:18.645 --> 00:59:20.265 So you need, you need that wireless mic. 00:59:21.104 --> 00:59:21.435 Yeah. 00:59:21.495 --> 00:59:23.205 And you need sound bites in, in the field. 00:59:23.805 --> 00:59:27.285 Like if you got, if you're doing it properly, like if you went on 00:59:27.285 --> 00:59:30.084 the Yukon, you could sit down and interview everybody now, right? 00:59:30.084 --> 00:59:30.325 Mm-hmm. 00:59:30.404 --> 00:59:31.995 . Or you can sit down and interview during the trip. 00:59:32.234 --> 00:59:35.055 Now you got stuff to put your footage on with music. 00:59:35.125 --> 00:59:35.685 Right. 00:59:35.714 --> 00:59:37.575 Otherwise you don't have good audio, good talking. 00:59:37.575 --> 00:59:41.055 You got just, it's like a montage at that point. 00:59:41.055 --> 00:59:41.924 That's a good point. 00:59:42.015 --> 00:59:42.915 You gotta tell a story. 00:59:42.944 --> 00:59:43.725 That's a good point. 00:59:43.845 --> 00:59:46.214 You gotta interview and then if you get, if you interview 00:59:46.214 --> 00:59:47.404 while they're out there mm-hmm. 00:59:48.735 --> 00:59:50.595 . while you're getting the reels where they come back. 00:59:50.595 --> 00:59:51.885 It's kind of contrived reality 00:59:51.885 --> 00:59:52.905 Travis Bader: where it's a brilliant point. 00:59:52.905 --> 00:59:54.135 I don't know why I didn't think about that. 00:59:54.135 --> 00:59:56.535 So I got a whole bunch of footage without any interview on it. 00:59:56.725 --> 00:59:59.775 So you Yeah, you, how are you gonna make I'm not gonna do, that's why it's sitting 00:59:59.780 --> 01:00:00.375 Jesse Reardon: on a hard drive. 01:00:00.405 --> 01:00:00.645 Yeah. 01:00:00.650 --> 01:00:02.685 So if you have sound bites, sound bites are good. 01:00:02.685 --> 01:00:02.745 Yeah. 01:00:02.775 --> 01:00:04.065 That's what you need sound bites. 01:00:04.125 --> 01:00:04.575 Okay. 01:00:04.635 --> 01:00:06.525 But good quality, like this is good sound bite. 01:00:06.530 --> 01:00:06.715 Yeah. 01:00:06.715 --> 01:00:06.835 Yeah. 01:00:07.605 --> 01:00:10.575 But if you have a wireless mic on somebody out there, but it, yeah. 01:00:10.575 --> 01:00:11.385 Travis Bader: I got lab mics. 01:00:12.015 --> 01:00:12.645 I just have to bring 01:00:12.645 --> 01:00:14.835 Jesse Reardon: them, bring 'em and then just sit down during 01:00:14.835 --> 01:00:17.355 the day or whatever and say, Hey guys, I just wanna interview you. 01:00:17.695 --> 01:00:18.115 Huh. 01:00:18.225 --> 01:00:19.335 Downtime or whatever. 01:00:19.335 --> 01:00:20.295 Or get 'em to do a diary 01:00:20.295 --> 01:00:21.015 Travis Bader: camera every day. 01:00:21.075 --> 01:00:22.515 I wonder if there'd be any interest in that. 01:00:22.875 --> 01:00:25.275 I mean, I was just doing it for my own personal interest and nothing 01:00:25.275 --> 01:00:26.895 that I think, yeah, I probably would. 01:00:27.285 --> 01:00:27.705 Who knows? 01:00:27.705 --> 01:00:29.595 I'll uh, play around a bit, maybe get 01:00:29.595 --> 01:00:30.795 Jesse Reardon: an interview cuz then you had 01:00:30.795 --> 01:00:31.455 Travis Bader: sound bites. 01:00:31.725 --> 01:00:32.475 That's a good idea. 01:00:33.105 --> 01:00:37.095 So what's the craziest Jim Shocky story that you're allowed to share? 01:00:38.205 --> 01:00:38.475 Jesse Reardon: Mm. 01:00:38.535 --> 01:00:43.245 I think Cody Robbins, he, uh, he was at Bear Camp and he brought his underwear. 01:00:44.190 --> 01:00:48.240 . Like he had his Bear Camp underwear and he like, I think he wrapped Jim's pillow in 01:00:48.240 --> 01:00:50.040 it when Jim came back from Bear Camp Kind. 01:00:50.040 --> 01:00:50.600 Oh my God. 01:00:50.940 --> 01:00:53.820 It was like a two week old pair of underwear and he put it in 01:00:53.820 --> 01:00:56.670 Jim's pillow and I think Jim might have slept on it for a few days. 01:00:56.670 --> 01:01:00.810 So , no, I don't have any crazy gym stories. 01:01:00.810 --> 01:01:05.280 I mean, kind of a couple funny ones, but I don't know if I can tell 'em. 01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:07.410 Yeah, they, he was, he was class act though. 01:01:07.470 --> 01:01:08.250 He was always good. 01:01:08.250 --> 01:01:12.900 Um, I was always panicking about missing the shot and stuff like that in Turkey. 01:01:12.900 --> 01:01:15.810 I remember waking up to him saying, are you on him? 01:01:16.500 --> 01:01:16.920 I was like, what? 01:01:17.670 --> 01:01:18.560 You, you woke up? 01:01:18.710 --> 01:01:19.280 I woke up. 01:01:19.285 --> 01:01:22.650 Cause it was totally jet leg and we were, they were pushing bush and for 01:01:22.650 --> 01:01:24.180 Turkey and yeah, get these deer out. 01:01:24.180 --> 01:01:26.700 I'm like, that's not gonna, we're not gonna get a deer. 01:01:26.700 --> 01:01:28.230 We haven't seen a deer in five days. 01:01:28.950 --> 01:01:32.130 Anyways, I just fell asleep and I just wake up to Jim saying, are you on him? 01:01:32.220 --> 01:01:32.730 Are you on him? 01:01:32.730 --> 01:01:33.680 I'm like, what? 01:01:34.470 --> 01:01:35.670 The good answer is yes, I am. 01:01:35.820 --> 01:01:39.089 So yeah, there's a couple good stories, but um, . Yeah. 01:01:39.330 --> 01:01:41.700 I really liked the, uh, Howell and stuff was my favorite stuff 01:01:41.700 --> 01:01:43.799 to film, and it's fun to watch. 01:01:43.830 --> 01:01:45.720 It was fun to watch, and they were genuine. 01:01:45.720 --> 01:01:48.540 Um, I learned a lot from them and yeah, 01:01:48.839 --> 01:01:49.379 Travis Bader: it was good. 01:01:49.470 --> 01:01:50.669 They seemed to really like each other. 01:01:51.060 --> 01:01:52.980 Jesse Reardon: They did, and they, we'd, we kind of feed 'em a 01:01:52.980 --> 01:01:56.100 bit of, kind of bit of lines and they'd roll with it, but Okay. 01:01:56.529 --> 01:02:01.259 But , they were just, they were just, they were very humble man. 01:02:01.290 --> 01:02:03.600 So yeah, that's what made 'em legit. 01:02:03.660 --> 01:02:06.480 And they, and they loved, uh, the outdoors and hunting, even though 01:02:07.109 --> 01:02:08.399 they hunted in their jeans and. 01:02:09.375 --> 01:02:09.615 Lumber 01:02:09.615 --> 01:02:12.765 Travis Bader: jacket more edible, have been taken in blue jeans 01:02:12.765 --> 01:02:16.935 and plaid jackets and have in any fancy goretex, I'm sure of that. 01:02:17.025 --> 01:02:17.475 Totally, 01:02:17.505 --> 01:02:17.955 Jesse Reardon: totally. 01:02:18.675 --> 01:02:22.185 And, and so now I'm working on, I've done a bit of work with Manny 01:02:22.275 --> 01:02:24.315 Wild, which is a, a new TV series. 01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:25.545 He's going to season two right 01:02:25.545 --> 01:02:25.875 Travis Bader: now. 01:02:25.935 --> 01:02:28.905 Tell me about that one, because I, I've been seeing that in the periphery. 01:02:29.055 --> 01:02:30.225 Guy looks pretty hardcore. 01:02:30.405 --> 01:02:31.305 Jesse Reardon: He's totally hardcore. 01:02:31.305 --> 01:02:31.815 He is legit. 01:02:31.815 --> 01:02:32.055 Yeah. 01:02:32.115 --> 01:02:35.385 He's, uh, I think he's Greek and he is from, uh, Australia. 01:02:35.475 --> 01:02:37.905 Born and raised in Australia, but he is like a restaurateur. 01:02:37.905 --> 01:02:40.515 He had like Michelin star restaurants and Wow. 01:02:40.575 --> 01:02:42.435 He, guidance services and all that. 01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:46.275 And so he fishes and hunts all around the world, but at the end of each chef. 01:02:46.275 --> 01:02:49.155 So he, he cooks at like master chef, like Gordon Ramsey style. 01:02:49.395 --> 01:02:49.875 That's cool. 01:02:49.965 --> 01:02:50.625 On the spot. 01:02:51.135 --> 01:02:51.915 That's really cool. 01:02:51.975 --> 01:02:52.395 And it's good. 01:02:52.395 --> 01:02:53.415 And he's, and he is legit. 01:02:53.415 --> 01:02:54.435 So he's doing that. 01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:59.055 And I've been, I was able to go film, uh, in the Idaho with, uh, Chuck Liddell. 01:02:59.175 --> 01:02:59.535 Yeah. 01:02:59.655 --> 01:03:00.285 Which was weird. 01:03:00.375 --> 01:03:00.735 Yeah. 01:03:01.095 --> 01:03:02.235 Uh, Rocky Mountains. 01:03:02.295 --> 01:03:02.475 Yeah. 01:03:02.565 --> 01:03:03.585 Chuck Liddell horseback. 01:03:03.585 --> 01:03:04.785 And that was, that was pretty funny. 01:03:05.805 --> 01:03:08.955 . Travis Bader: I, I like that whole concept of, uh, incorporating the 01:03:08.955 --> 01:03:10.634 food, the cooking part into the Yeah. 01:03:10.814 --> 01:03:13.995 The hunt, because that's, that's such a big part of the conversation 01:03:13.995 --> 01:03:15.015 when it comes into hunting. 01:03:15.044 --> 01:03:19.214 I know Kevin Cowin and Paul Rodowski, they've got a show, 01:03:19.305 --> 01:03:20.685 uh, from the Wild mm-hmm. 01:03:20.770 --> 01:03:22.665 and it's, um, it's a really good one. 01:03:22.665 --> 01:03:23.444 And they got, uh, 01:03:23.475 --> 01:03:24.435 Jesse Reardon: is that the one that's on 01:03:24.435 --> 01:03:25.125 Travis Bader: your link tree? 01:03:25.484 --> 01:03:25.995 You got it. 01:03:25.995 --> 01:03:26.265 Yeah. 01:03:26.265 --> 01:03:27.044 And Les Strode. 01:03:27.194 --> 01:03:27.584 Um, 01:03:27.615 --> 01:03:29.955 Jesse Reardon: yeah, that's, that show looks really good. 01:03:30.615 --> 01:03:31.125 It's awesome. 01:03:31.205 --> 01:03:33.285 I, I only saw the trailer cuz I just saw it like 01:03:33.285 --> 01:03:33.444 Travis Bader: yesterday. 01:03:33.444 --> 01:03:34.185 I love those yesterday guys. 01:03:34.185 --> 01:03:38.895 They're su, super down to earth and, uh, Chris Paul Rogowski, 01:03:38.924 --> 01:03:43.814 he's got, um, uh, I don't know if it's a Michelin star, but it's an 01:03:43.814 --> 01:03:45.495 award-winning, it's a Rouge restaurant. 01:03:46.005 --> 01:03:47.955 Um, an award-winning restaurant. 01:03:47.955 --> 01:03:51.325 He's a chef and yeah, of course everyone knows the survivor 01:03:51.585 --> 01:03:53.175 man, Les Stroud and yeah. 01:03:53.745 --> 01:03:54.615 Kevin Cowin. 01:03:54.615 --> 01:03:56.955 He use beautiful cinematography that he puts together. 01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:57.015 Yeah. 01:03:57.325 --> 01:03:58.485 Jesse Reardon: So it's like the Yeah. 01:03:58.565 --> 01:04:00.045 The, the look and feel. 01:04:00.045 --> 01:04:01.035 That show is epic. 01:04:01.040 --> 01:04:04.815 So those guys are using good cameras, like so they're documenting the 01:04:04.815 --> 01:04:06.245 outdoors with Yeah, but don't, 01:04:06.585 --> 01:04:07.425 Travis Bader: don't at the cameras. 01:04:07.965 --> 01:04:11.505 Honestly, I talking with Kevin, I, I don't get the sense that they're 01:04:11.505 --> 01:04:13.095 going too crazy with the cameras. 01:04:13.095 --> 01:04:15.225 Like they got, you know, got a couple good cameras out there. 01:04:15.225 --> 01:04:19.455 It's, but it's about the shot composition and about, uh, having a good eye for it. 01:04:19.575 --> 01:04:19.935 Yeah. 01:04:19.935 --> 01:04:21.945 Which he, he does, 01:04:21.950 --> 01:04:22.215 Jesse Reardon: right. 01:04:22.215 --> 01:04:24.915 Just like, and then telling the story with the editing too, right? 01:04:25.095 --> 01:04:25.305 Yeah. 01:04:25.305 --> 01:04:26.535 And they have interviews. 01:04:27.225 --> 01:04:27.975 They have interviews. 01:04:27.975 --> 01:04:28.695 Look at that trailer. 01:04:28.695 --> 01:04:29.565 It's all interviews. 01:04:29.565 --> 01:04:29.855 Yes, they do. 01:04:29.855 --> 01:04:30.765 They have interviews. 01:04:30.825 --> 01:04:34.845 It's interviews with music, and then smart, the nice cuts on top. 01:04:35.445 --> 01:04:38.670 Travis Bader: So having that food portion of the whole thing, I think 01:04:38.895 --> 01:04:44.175 reaches just a, a primal level in people, but a much wider audience as well. 01:04:44.180 --> 01:04:49.185 And it introduces the concept of hunting as opposed to co-opting that 01:04:49.185 --> 01:04:53.655 responsibility onto a butcher or, or an ABA avatar or somewhere else. 01:04:53.695 --> 01:04:54.215 Mm-hmm. 01:04:54.545 --> 01:04:58.634 , uh, of the more intimate relationship with the food essentially, and 01:04:58.634 --> 01:04:59.805 that whole story that goes with it. 01:04:59.805 --> 01:05:01.305 I really like that concept. 01:05:01.305 --> 01:05:01.634 So I'm 01:05:01.634 --> 01:05:02.655 Jesse Reardon: No, it's a good concept. 01:05:02.655 --> 01:05:06.165 And honestly like, um, I came into this green, right? 01:05:06.195 --> 01:05:06.435 Yeah. 01:05:06.585 --> 01:05:07.455 I liked fishing. 01:05:07.455 --> 01:05:09.165 I just go to the store and buy my meat. 01:05:09.225 --> 01:05:09.495 Yeah. 01:05:10.155 --> 01:05:11.985 Um, my wife's a vegetarian. 01:05:13.770 --> 01:05:16.320 . She's not like hardcore vegan, like, but yeah, she's a vegetarian, 01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:17.730 but she eats, uh, like fish. 01:05:17.790 --> 01:05:17.820 Okay. 01:05:18.540 --> 01:05:20.010 Um, but she gets it. 01:05:20.220 --> 01:05:20.550 Yeah. 01:05:20.610 --> 01:05:24.180 Like she understands why hunting is good. 01:05:24.240 --> 01:05:24.540 Yeah. 01:05:24.630 --> 01:05:26.190 And it works if it's done. 01:05:26.190 --> 01:05:29.520 Uh, not a, like, you know, all these guys think of hunters as 01:05:29.520 --> 01:05:30.900 these typical crazy rednecks. 01:05:30.900 --> 01:05:31.230 Yeah. 01:05:32.490 --> 01:05:33.240 Sorry, I shouldn't say that. 01:05:34.170 --> 01:05:37.320 They're shooting their guns off and drinking beers, you know, I mean, 01:05:37.380 --> 01:05:39.210 there, there are those guys out there. 01:05:39.215 --> 01:05:39.900 It does happen. 01:05:39.900 --> 01:05:40.710 But that's not a hunter. 01:05:40.770 --> 01:05:41.220 No, no. 01:05:41.220 --> 01:05:44.550 That's just someone partying and having fun who's allowed to have Right. 01:05:45.130 --> 01:05:46.950 But, but yeah, it's, yeah. 01:05:46.950 --> 01:05:48.660 It's all part of clean eating really. 01:05:48.720 --> 01:05:52.470 And it's, um, I think it's pretty cool to see these cooks, 01:05:52.680 --> 01:05:54.450 like you mentioned, do that. 01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:54.660 Yeah. 01:05:54.660 --> 01:05:56.850 Like, cuz I love cooking. 01:05:56.880 --> 01:06:00.000 I, you know, my, I'm always getting in trouble for like, using extra ingredients. 01:06:00.005 --> 01:06:02.340 I'm like, well we have cilantro, we have this one we're not throwing on. 01:06:02.340 --> 01:06:03.060 It looks good too. 01:06:03.065 --> 01:06:03.360 Right. 01:06:03.960 --> 01:06:05.580 So it's nice to Yeah. 01:06:05.580 --> 01:06:10.980 So I, I can get behind someone who's do has, you know, That behind it about 01:06:11.220 --> 01:06:15.240 getting the animal and then showing a wicked meal you can make with it and, and 01:06:15.240 --> 01:06:16.890 then using it, giving it to the community. 01:06:16.980 --> 01:06:18.960 Travis Bader: I, I think that's the vehicle to the masses. 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:19.050 Mm-hmm. 01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:23.970 , I mean, for those who would be, uh, anti-hunting or against hunting. 01:06:23.975 --> 01:06:24.150 Yeah. 01:06:24.450 --> 01:06:26.520 And rather than always preaching to the choir. 01:06:26.610 --> 01:06:26.880 Yeah. 01:06:27.150 --> 01:06:28.920 That food section. 01:06:28.980 --> 01:06:33.180 Uh, Hank Shaw, I don't know if you've ever, uh, read some of his stuff. 01:06:33.180 --> 01:06:36.180 He's got a James Beard award-winning website. 01:06:36.390 --> 01:06:37.590 Uh, no, I'll check it out. 01:06:37.590 --> 01:06:37.950 Blog. 01:06:37.955 --> 01:06:38.190 Yeah. 01:06:38.190 --> 01:06:39.930 He's, uh, hunter Angler. 01:06:39.930 --> 01:06:42.420 Gardener Cook or Chef Hunter Angler Garden. 01:06:42.509 --> 01:06:42.570 Yeah. 01:06:42.660 --> 01:06:45.360 Honest food.net, I think is what his, uh, website's called. 01:06:45.630 --> 01:06:45.870 Yeah. 01:06:46.140 --> 01:06:49.590 Um, does a fantastic job. 01:06:49.590 --> 01:06:54.270 Him and his and his partner, Holly, just both photographing 01:06:54.270 --> 01:06:58.200 and documenting, writing about the process of procuring wild food. 01:06:59.205 --> 01:07:04.755 It, and I think it's popularity that he has there is because it's not just about 01:07:04.755 --> 01:07:06.045 hunting, it's not just about fishing. 01:07:06.045 --> 01:07:09.765 It's not just, but it's about that whole process and how we're connected to it. 01:07:09.975 --> 01:07:10.185 Yeah. 01:07:10.185 --> 01:07:11.835 Jesse Reardon: It's kind of a lifestyle too, right? 01:07:11.835 --> 01:07:12.855 It's a lifestyle choice. 01:07:12.855 --> 01:07:13.995 Like some people aren't into it. 01:07:13.995 --> 01:07:16.395 Like, trust me, I love going to Costco. 01:07:16.545 --> 01:07:16.815 Sure. 01:07:16.815 --> 01:07:18.045 The steelhead there is great. 01:07:18.105 --> 01:07:18.285 Yeah. 01:07:18.645 --> 01:07:19.755 and it's farmed, but I don't know. 01:07:20.285 --> 01:07:20.725 , is that bad? 01:07:21.345 --> 01:07:21.975 I think it's farmed. 01:07:21.975 --> 01:07:22.245 I don't know. 01:07:22.245 --> 01:07:22.755 But it's good. 01:07:22.755 --> 01:07:25.694 It's like good steelhead, but I can't, I can fish steelhead on 01:07:25.694 --> 01:07:26.895 the island, but I can't keep 'em. 01:07:26.895 --> 01:07:27.105 Right. 01:07:27.105 --> 01:07:31.275 So anyways, but I, I, I don't mind going to, yeah, I, I don't mind going to 01:07:31.279 --> 01:07:34.964 get, you know, salmon flas or something like Costco or Meat flas, but you 01:07:34.964 --> 01:07:37.575 Travis Bader: talk about the lifestyle, but I think everyone's got a lifestyle of. 01:07:38.080 --> 01:07:39.490 eating and drinking. 01:07:39.490 --> 01:07:40.090 Yeah, totally. 01:07:40.090 --> 01:07:40.250 Yeah. 01:07:40.250 --> 01:07:40.530 Right. 01:07:40.530 --> 01:07:42.180 Jesse Reardon: They, they want, but they, they can just go to the 01:07:42.180 --> 01:07:43.610 store and buy the meat and Yeah. 01:07:43.770 --> 01:07:47.220 And then they're like, well, I can't believe you'd hunt, like you'd shoot that. 01:07:47.430 --> 01:07:51.150 I'm like, well, it's like you just went like, can I see your freezer? 01:07:51.150 --> 01:07:52.410 And you're like, where'd you get this? 01:07:52.415 --> 01:07:53.700 Like, where'd that come from? 01:07:53.700 --> 01:07:54.240 And Right. 01:07:54.270 --> 01:07:57.930 What someone had to shoot things like, they didn't have that freedom 01:07:58.020 --> 01:07:59.700 of life that these wild game have. 01:07:59.700 --> 01:08:01.740 So it's tricky. 01:08:01.950 --> 01:08:03.990 It's a tricky one to sometimes work with. 01:08:04.020 --> 01:08:05.190 Um, yeah. 01:08:05.670 --> 01:08:07.140 Travis Bader: So where do you see yourself 01:08:07.170 --> 01:08:07.830 Jesse Reardon: in the future? 01:08:08.100 --> 01:08:11.250 Well, you know, I had, I've always had this concept in my head. 01:08:11.250 --> 01:08:15.480 I, I, I don't quite know how I'm gonna pull it off, but I've made TV for 01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:20.040 lots of years and, and, uh, worked for these guys making their shows 01:08:20.040 --> 01:08:21.149 or helping 'em make their shows. 01:08:21.149 --> 01:08:25.260 But, you know, I've always kind of had in the back of my head some sort 01:08:25.260 --> 01:08:29.100 of phish and show idea, but I just, ah, just don't know if, uh, you know, 01:08:29.100 --> 01:08:32.310 the, the logistics of, uh, of getting something going are, are tricky, but, 01:08:32.925 --> 01:08:36.014 You know, like I, I remember growing up fishing a lot, right. 01:08:36.404 --> 01:08:42.434 And, uh, everyone usually when Yeah, like fishing, fishing with my dad. 01:08:42.524 --> 01:08:42.615 Yeah. 01:08:42.615 --> 01:08:42.885 Right. 01:08:43.604 --> 01:08:48.885 And again, fishing with my dad was more my dad drinking with his buddies, 01:08:48.889 --> 01:08:50.264 and I'm holding the fishing rod. 01:08:50.264 --> 01:08:51.825 Unfortunately, for me, that's what it was. 01:08:51.885 --> 01:08:52.215 Right. 01:08:52.934 --> 01:08:56.955 And, uh, I also just went back to Ontario this summer and I revisited some of 01:08:56.955 --> 01:08:58.365 the spots my grandpa used to take me. 01:08:58.604 --> 01:08:58.724 Mm-hmm. 01:08:58.970 --> 01:09:00.825 , but he'd, he always packed a fishing rod. 01:09:00.825 --> 01:09:02.444 He'd throw me at a lake, he'd throw me at this. 01:09:02.444 --> 01:09:03.554 He'd say, just go fish. 01:09:03.644 --> 01:09:03.915 Yeah. 01:09:04.484 --> 01:09:05.654 So I didn't really learn. 01:09:05.654 --> 01:09:09.194 So then I had kids and I was like, man, take my kids fishing. 01:09:09.194 --> 01:09:09.825 This is awesome. 01:09:09.854 --> 01:09:10.336 Yeah, yeah. 01:09:11.024 --> 01:09:13.755 But I quickly realized I, I really didn't learn much from my dad. 01:09:13.755 --> 01:09:14.984 I didn't really learn how to fish. 01:09:15.165 --> 01:09:15.255 Right. 01:09:15.255 --> 01:09:20.535 So, fishing with dad is the kind of concept and telling people's stories of 01:09:20.564 --> 01:09:22.484 how, because how did you learn to fish? 01:09:23.625 --> 01:09:27.014 Travis Bader: Well that growing up we had a, um, we call it a 01:09:27.014 --> 01:09:28.484 commercial fly fishing lodge. 01:09:28.484 --> 01:09:29.955 It had a commercial license on it. 01:09:30.314 --> 01:09:30.585 Yeah. 01:09:31.035 --> 01:09:33.075 But it was never run commercially. 01:09:33.134 --> 01:09:40.724 It was, um, uh, a geological lawyer, uh, who was good family friend, a uh, fellow. 01:09:40.729 --> 01:09:44.504 He owned a sporty goods store, stored other one owned, I think it's we Canada's 01:09:44.504 --> 01:09:48.104 largest, uh, um, brokerage company. 01:09:49.004 --> 01:09:51.854 And, uh, . What did the other one do? 01:09:51.915 --> 01:09:52.425 I forget. 01:09:52.425 --> 01:09:55.245 Anyways, there's, there's four of them involved and they're, they're 01:09:55.245 --> 01:09:56.894 family friends and invite us up. 01:09:56.894 --> 01:10:01.485 And then at one point, one left and, uh, gave us the opportunity. 01:10:01.485 --> 01:10:04.365 My family bought into a fly fishing lodge, so Oh, sweet. 01:10:04.365 --> 01:10:09.014 But for me, fly fishing was, you put the fly on the end, or if nobody's 01:10:09.014 --> 01:10:13.275 looking, you put like, I don't know, a, uh, a treble hook or a, 01:10:13.275 --> 01:10:15.105 uh, a spinner or something on there. 01:10:15.315 --> 01:10:15.615 Yeah. 01:10:15.705 --> 01:10:19.125 And you just troll behind the boat with your fly rod out there. 01:10:19.125 --> 01:10:20.385 Yeah, that was fly fishing. 01:10:20.385 --> 01:10:24.705 I had no real idea how to cast properly or how fly fishing's an art. 01:10:24.915 --> 01:10:25.815 Oh, totally is. 01:10:26.175 --> 01:10:30.375 And it's only in recent years that I've really started to, uh, 01:10:30.405 --> 01:10:32.264 kind of learn more about that. 01:10:32.445 --> 01:10:32.775 Yeah. 01:10:33.075 --> 01:10:33.434 But. 01:10:34.725 --> 01:10:37.455 Like most things, if you're gonna learn to hunt, you're gonna learn to fish. 01:10:37.455 --> 01:10:40.875 It's going to probably because a family member most likely has 01:10:40.875 --> 01:10:42.435 taken you out and shown you. 01:10:42.795 --> 01:10:43.035 Yeah. 01:10:43.095 --> 01:10:45.705 And previously it was a male dominated activity. 01:10:45.975 --> 01:10:46.215 Yeah. 01:10:46.725 --> 01:10:49.905 And so it was usually like a father or an uncle or grandfather would take you out. 01:10:49.935 --> 01:10:52.394 Now it's the both for sure. 01:10:52.425 --> 01:10:52.875 Yeah. 01:10:52.875 --> 01:10:56.535 I mean, like one of the best anglers of the world we know provoke. 01:10:56.535 --> 01:10:56.805 Yeah. 01:10:56.805 --> 01:10:57.385 You got it. 01:10:57.390 --> 01:10:57.495 Right. 01:10:57.495 --> 01:10:59.805 Jesse Reardon: That's where I learned about fly fishing cast, cuz 01:10:59.865 --> 01:11:04.065 we went to film her, the idea was to film her teaching how to cast. 01:11:04.155 --> 01:11:04.425 Right. 01:11:04.545 --> 01:11:04.695 Cast. 01:11:05.065 --> 01:11:05.175 Remember that? 01:11:05.685 --> 01:11:07.755 And man, that was, uh, next level. 01:11:07.815 --> 01:11:08.325 That one. 01:11:08.565 --> 01:11:08.894 Yeah. 01:11:08.955 --> 01:11:12.525 And we filmed for three or four days and we finally put it out. 01:11:12.525 --> 01:11:14.415 She was six months pregnant or something too. 01:11:14.625 --> 01:11:14.945 Wow. 01:11:15.405 --> 01:11:17.865 But um, yeah, it's uh, definitely an art. 01:11:17.865 --> 01:11:22.365 And I mean, the idea for a fishing show, I, I'm not quite sure how I'm gonna 01:11:22.365 --> 01:11:25.305 pull it off, but in my brain I'm, I'm starting in Hai Gwaii and I'm going to 01:11:25.310 --> 01:11:27.495 newfound and learned to fish with my kids. 01:11:28.335 --> 01:11:29.595 Travis Bader: That'd be an amazing show. 01:11:29.625 --> 01:11:29.894 Yeah. 01:11:29.925 --> 01:11:30.105 Are you 01:11:30.105 --> 01:11:30.555 Jesse Reardon: kidding? 01:11:30.615 --> 01:11:31.485 Needs to be filmed too. 01:11:31.485 --> 01:11:32.955 And the thing is, I know how to film it. 01:11:33.270 --> 01:11:33.510 Travis Bader: Yeah. 01:11:33.510 --> 01:11:35.010 And the story behind that. 01:11:35.070 --> 01:11:35.160 Yeah. 01:11:35.160 --> 01:11:37.800 Because you have that background where you wish you knew how to do it. 01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:38.100 Only 01:11:38.330 --> 01:11:39.540 Jesse Reardon: we had sponsors. 01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:40.500 Travis Bader: Just need a couple 01:11:40.500 --> 01:11:41.100 Jesse Reardon: sponsors. 01:11:41.100 --> 01:11:41.340 Huh? 01:11:41.400 --> 01:11:42.120 I don't know how to do it. 01:11:42.180 --> 01:11:42.390 No. 01:11:42.390 --> 01:11:44.430 I'm think honestly thinking about sell my house and do it. 01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:44.940 Yeah. 01:11:45.270 --> 01:11:46.650 But don't tell my kids. 01:11:46.830 --> 01:11:46.950 Well, 01:11:46.950 --> 01:11:48.990 Travis Bader: honestly, what do they say if you build it? 01:11:48.990 --> 01:11:49.560 They'll come. 01:11:49.770 --> 01:11:51.810 Jesse Reardon: Yeah, I could always come back to the island in year if didn't 01:11:51.815 --> 01:11:52.950 work out, but I'll have the footage. 01:11:53.190 --> 01:11:57.570 Travis Bader: If you have that feeling in your heart, that little 01:11:58.850 --> 01:12:01.740 Jesse Reardon: province, you try the lake, river Ocean along the way, you're 01:12:01.740 --> 01:12:02.340 Travis Bader: gonna regret it. 01:12:02.340 --> 01:12:03.540 If you don't, can you imagine? 01:12:03.630 --> 01:12:03.840 Yeah, 01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:04.930 Jesse Reardon: that would be Haua. 01:12:04.935 --> 01:12:05.940 Hit Newfoundland at the end. 01:12:05.970 --> 01:12:06.900 Have you fished Haua? 01:12:07.530 --> 01:12:10.980 Uh, I went on a boat once with a friend of mine yet. 01:12:11.070 --> 01:12:11.130 Yeah. 01:12:11.135 --> 01:12:11.820 And we tried fishing. 01:12:11.820 --> 01:12:13.380 Didn't catch anything, but I did deer hunt there. 01:12:13.500 --> 01:12:13.830 Yeah. 01:12:13.835 --> 01:12:14.130 Travis Bader: Yeah. 01:12:14.135 --> 01:12:14.730 That was awesome. 01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:15.450 I hear it's on scene. 01:12:15.450 --> 01:12:16.890 I've never been, I'd love to go there. 01:12:16.890 --> 01:12:17.400 They're allowed 10 01:12:17.405 --> 01:12:18.540 Jesse Reardon: tags, but there's deer every. 01:12:19.349 --> 01:12:22.410 Travis Bader: Is it 10 or 15 ? It's crazy. 01:12:22.410 --> 01:12:22.980 The number might 01:12:22.980 --> 01:12:25.620 Jesse Reardon: 15 and it's not, they're not, there's a lot of deer there. 01:12:25.710 --> 01:12:27.059 Yeah, I did Hawaii too. 01:12:27.059 --> 01:12:27.870 Filmed an axis. 01:12:27.870 --> 01:12:28.260 Deer hunting. 01:12:28.260 --> 01:12:28.950 You've accessed in Hawaii. 01:12:28.950 --> 01:12:29.460 Which island? 01:12:29.849 --> 01:12:30.510 Uh, Maui. 01:12:30.630 --> 01:12:31.050 Okay. 01:12:31.140 --> 01:12:31.620 With Shane. 01:12:31.620 --> 01:12:31.980 Dorian. 01:12:31.980 --> 01:12:33.269 He's a pro surfer. 01:12:33.269 --> 01:12:36.710 That was a movie's wild that I'm gonna have to watch that one. 01:12:36.710 --> 01:12:39.150 That was one of the, uh, I'd like to re-edit it. 01:12:39.180 --> 01:12:39.930 I didn't edit it. 01:12:40.170 --> 01:12:41.190 No, but it's fine. 01:12:41.220 --> 01:12:42.090 They did great. 01:12:42.120 --> 01:12:42.450 Yeah. 01:12:43.690 --> 01:12:45.990 . But I think MAF said there's so much footage. 01:12:46.500 --> 01:12:48.990 They did a great job considering all the footage that was given to them. 01:12:49.019 --> 01:12:49.380 MAF said, 01:12:50.220 --> 01:12:52.080 Travis Bader: um, yeah, access Deer. 01:12:52.080 --> 01:12:55.800 Is that difficult to, to do for a non-resident? 01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:56.700 Like if I wanted to? 01:12:56.920 --> 01:12:57.269 Uh, 01:12:57.269 --> 01:12:59.370 Jesse Reardon: I think it's pretty, I don't know. 01:12:59.540 --> 01:13:02.010 I, I, I think there's a bit of logistics, but not bad. 01:13:02.015 --> 01:13:03.510 You, you need permission on you. 01:13:03.510 --> 01:13:05.070 You might have to go with an outfit or some sort. 01:13:05.220 --> 01:13:05.519 Right. 01:13:05.550 --> 01:13:05.760 Okay. 01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:08.340 Or you need permission through someone you know who has a far, like, we're 01:13:08.345 --> 01:13:11.940 on some wicked huge chunk of land. 01:13:12.090 --> 01:13:12.599 They don't have it 01:13:12.599 --> 01:13:14.550 Travis Bader: beside ton of access to you over there, do they? 01:13:15.270 --> 01:13:15.600 Jesse Reardon: Yeah. 01:13:15.660 --> 01:13:17.880 Do they, there's like 60,000 on Maui. 01:13:17.940 --> 01:13:18.270 Travis Bader: Is there? 01:13:18.270 --> 01:13:18.660 Really? 01:13:18.910 --> 01:13:20.250 I, I know nothing about 'em. 01:13:20.250 --> 01:13:20.700 I just, it's like 01:13:21.120 --> 01:13:23.400 Jesse Reardon: Salt Spring Island with 60,000 deer on it. 01:13:23.460 --> 01:13:23.580 Oh 01:13:23.580 --> 01:13:23.940 Travis Bader: my God. 01:13:23.940 --> 01:13:28.620 They'd be getting So over here you've heard about the guys that come with a 01:13:28.620 --> 01:13:30.660 helicopter and they'll do culling for 01:13:30.750 --> 01:13:31.320 Jesse Reardon: Uh, yeah. 01:13:31.590 --> 01:13:32.160 Unfortunately. 01:13:32.160 --> 01:13:33.150 But yeah, they have to do it. 01:13:33.160 --> 01:13:33.280 You 01:13:33.285 --> 01:13:33.450 Travis Bader: do? 01:13:33.450 --> 01:13:33.720 Yeah. 01:13:33.750 --> 01:13:34.560 For the non-native 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:37.560 Jesse Reardon: dear in, I'd love to go hunt fallow deer in Sydney. 01:13:37.560 --> 01:13:38.160 That'd be fun. 01:13:38.430 --> 01:13:38.670 That'd be 01:13:38.670 --> 01:13:39.030 Travis Bader: cool. 01:13:39.150 --> 01:13:39.540 Yeah. 01:13:40.080 --> 01:13:40.200 Yeah. 01:13:40.200 --> 01:13:42.690 They typically get guys out of New Zealand to do it. 01:13:42.690 --> 01:13:42.750 Yeah. 01:13:43.320 --> 01:13:43.890 And I 01:13:43.890 --> 01:13:46.320 Jesse Reardon: worked with a lot of Kiwis. 01:13:46.320 --> 01:13:46.800 Are you allowed to say that? 01:13:46.830 --> 01:13:46.950 Yeah. 01:13:46.955 --> 01:13:47.130 Yeah. 01:13:47.130 --> 01:13:48.000 Kiwis they call sells it. 01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:48.210 Yeah. 01:13:48.330 --> 01:13:48.690 Yeah. 01:13:48.695 --> 01:13:49.160 Yeah. 01:13:49.844 --> 01:13:51.105 Travis Bader: Yeah, they're awesome. 01:13:51.105 --> 01:13:51.465 Funny. 01:13:51.465 --> 01:13:54.075 A buddy of mine, he says, you know, I don't know why they keep getting the Kiwis 01:13:54.075 --> 01:13:57.434 to go and do this cuz we trained them on how to do this back in the seventies. 01:13:57.434 --> 01:13:57.495 Yeah. 01:13:57.495 --> 01:14:01.275 The Canadians trained the Kiwis apparently on the, uh, shooting from 01:14:01.275 --> 01:14:02.865 helicopters back in the seventies. 01:14:02.955 --> 01:14:03.135 Huh. 01:14:03.675 --> 01:14:09.554 And uh, recently speaking with them, uh, cuz there's some more work in 01:14:09.554 --> 01:14:11.625 progress, I'm like, hold on a second. 01:14:11.684 --> 01:14:13.365 Why, why don't we have Canadians in there? 01:14:13.365 --> 01:14:16.724 And they said, well, we put it out to tender and we only had five 01:14:16.724 --> 01:14:18.045 different companies come on back. 01:14:18.050 --> 01:14:19.545 And not one of 'em was Canadian. 01:14:20.184 --> 01:14:20.605 Huh. 01:14:20.775 --> 01:14:21.285 Interesting. 01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:24.660 . It's like, well, if I knew about that, I probably would've put a bid in even 01:14:24.660 --> 01:14:29.160 though, oh, uh, my, my shooting from helicopters is pretty limited by limited. 01:14:29.160 --> 01:14:31.440 I've never shot from a helicopter , but 01:14:31.530 --> 01:14:33.480 Jesse Reardon: I think it's probably an art for sure. 01:14:33.690 --> 01:14:36.269 Travis Bader: Well, I, we used to have to take a helicopter into the cabin. 01:14:36.420 --> 01:14:36.570 Yeah. 01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:39.210 First of season, get all the old stuff out, new stuff in, 01:14:39.210 --> 01:14:40.680 cuz it was flying or hiking. 01:14:40.740 --> 01:14:44.820 And I'd always try and talk the pilot into just, can you let me jump into the lake? 01:14:44.850 --> 01:14:47.670 Can I just like, can you hover over and just let me jump in? 01:14:47.670 --> 01:14:48.860 And he's like, Nope, it's okay. 01:14:48.900 --> 01:14:51.750 What if I put a rope and I just kinda lower myself down? 01:14:51.780 --> 01:14:52.410 That would be okay. 01:14:52.410 --> 01:14:52.710 Right? 01:14:52.769 --> 01:14:53.250 Nope. 01:14:53.820 --> 01:14:57.060 So my dream of jumping out of a helicopter is still unfulfilled. 01:14:57.210 --> 01:14:59.550 I might have to, um, it might happen. 01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:00.960 It might, you need to put your mind to it. 01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:01.800 I'm gonna put it out there. 01:15:01.830 --> 01:15:02.040 Maybe 01:15:02.040 --> 01:15:02.670 Jesse Reardon: we can rectify that. 01:15:02.860 --> 01:15:05.490 Yeah, I get that sponsored and the, and then the trip from Haida Gwai, 01:15:05.490 --> 01:15:06.090 Travis Bader: Newfoundland. 01:15:06.330 --> 01:15:08.940 That's maybe you just jump out of the helicopter out in Haida Gwaii and 01:15:08.940 --> 01:15:09.360 Jesse Reardon: then Yeah. 01:15:09.360 --> 01:15:09.960 Start there. 01:15:09.990 --> 01:15:10.230 Yeah. 01:15:10.230 --> 01:15:10.800 There you go. 01:15:10.860 --> 01:15:11.700 I'll do, yeah. 01:15:12.300 --> 01:15:12.570 Didn't. 01:15:12.570 --> 01:15:13.800 Will Smith bungee outta that? 01:15:14.190 --> 01:15:16.260 Did he I think he buned out of a helicopter. 01:15:16.560 --> 01:15:16.890 I've 01:15:16.890 --> 01:15:18.930 Travis Bader: never had anyways, burning desire to bungee jump. 01:15:18.960 --> 01:15:22.410 No, I meer It just doesn't seem to have any level of practicality behind it. 01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:23.370 Uh, no. 01:15:23.820 --> 01:15:25.200 Jesse Reardon: Yeah, no. 01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:27.300 Not now that I'm 43 with kids. 01:15:28.350 --> 01:15:31.170 , Travis Bader: nothing makes you recognize your own mortality like having children. 01:15:31.175 --> 01:15:31.440 Right. 01:15:31.570 --> 01:15:32.370 Jesse Reardon: Dear goodness. 01:15:32.550 --> 01:15:33.990 Yeah, totally 01:15:34.080 --> 01:15:34.650 Travis Bader: full on. 01:15:34.950 --> 01:15:37.410 So they're gonna be getting older. 01:15:37.530 --> 01:15:37.800 Yeah. 01:15:37.980 --> 01:15:39.540 Uh, you're gonna have to get on this show 01:15:39.540 --> 01:15:40.140 Jesse Reardon: pretty quick. 01:15:40.530 --> 01:15:44.040 Well, they're so my oldest, he's learning the hunt. 01:15:44.040 --> 01:15:45.750 He's got a hunted license and stuff, so. 01:15:45.750 --> 01:15:46.050 Yeah. 01:15:46.050 --> 01:15:47.040 I mean, that's what I mean. 01:15:47.040 --> 01:15:48.390 That's like, I gotta jump on this. 01:15:48.395 --> 01:15:48.810 Yeah. 01:15:48.930 --> 01:15:53.580 And I'm gonna, I, you know, It's a crazy idea in my head because my, when I moved 01:15:53.580 --> 01:15:56.340 to the island, my dad's buddy, his name was Dave Plumer, we'd always go out on 01:15:56.340 --> 01:15:59.430 his boat and he was like the old guy who like fixed his own stuff and then 01:15:59.430 --> 01:16:01.620 his boat always was gonna break down. 01:16:01.620 --> 01:16:04.830 It was always like a problem and always, always, always. 01:16:04.830 --> 01:16:07.110 But he taught me how to fish for cod out here. 01:16:07.110 --> 01:16:07.560 Pretty good. 01:16:07.680 --> 01:16:07.950 Yeah. 01:16:08.010 --> 01:16:11.730 You know, I've gotten good at fishing cod and stuff, but I've never, it'd be 01:16:11.730 --> 01:16:16.950 fun to just document me with the boys starting one and hitting like every, 01:16:17.160 --> 01:16:21.240 not every, but hitting spots in each province along the way and really trying 01:16:21.245 --> 01:16:22.530 to fish and learn from the locals. 01:16:22.535 --> 01:16:25.500 Like giving it kind of that Canadian local, like find the hardcore 01:16:25.500 --> 01:16:29.170 guy or the right this like, you know, indigenous groups or Yeah. 01:16:29.250 --> 01:16:29.330 Whatever. 01:16:29.430 --> 01:16:30.030 Yeah, exactly. 01:16:30.090 --> 01:16:30.840 Along the way. 01:16:30.840 --> 01:16:34.230 And then work with them for a few days fishing, learning their 01:16:34.230 --> 01:16:36.300 ways, and then, oh, lot fish. 01:16:36.420 --> 01:16:37.800 And then go to next province. 01:16:38.010 --> 01:16:39.330 And that's all the crazy road trip 01:16:39.330 --> 01:16:39.930 Travis Bader: and stuff too. 01:16:40.020 --> 01:16:42.090 We should talk after this recording because I might 01:16:42.090 --> 01:16:43.710 have a, uh, contact for you. 01:16:44.010 --> 01:16:44.550 Yeah, we should. 01:16:44.610 --> 01:16:44.880 Yeah. 01:16:45.450 --> 01:16:48.810 Um, do you have tips on, uh, fish and link? 01:16:50.054 --> 01:16:51.945 Jesse Reardon: Uh, , uh, people. 01:16:51.974 --> 01:16:56.745 It's my ADHD . I go fishing with guys and I'm like, you gotta fish those 01:16:56.745 --> 01:16:59.025 hard, uh, the good hard reefs for sure. 01:16:59.025 --> 01:16:59.115 Yeah. 01:16:59.594 --> 01:17:01.634 I mean, lots of guys catch 'em really deep too. 01:17:01.634 --> 01:17:01.695 Yeah. 01:17:01.724 --> 01:17:05.144 The big guys really deep, but 2, 2, 200 plus reefs. 01:17:05.150 --> 01:17:12.344 But I always like to fish those, uh, reefs at like, um, 30 to 65 or 65 to a hundred. 01:17:12.375 --> 01:17:12.674 Yeah. 01:17:13.214 --> 01:17:17.474 Um, but , my adhd, like, I'll drift a spot really quick on my, 01:17:17.684 --> 01:17:18.974 I'm like, oh, there's noling here. 01:17:19.394 --> 01:17:23.144 And we'd come back real quick now and we'd try another reef, trying another reef. 01:17:23.150 --> 01:17:25.665 The guys like, they always freak out that I'm moving too quick. 01:17:25.754 --> 01:17:26.084 Yeah. 01:17:26.235 --> 01:17:29.205 But I, I learned from the old guy, Dave Plumber, like, he's like, oh, 01:17:29.205 --> 01:17:31.844 there's no fish here if you're, if you don't bite the first 20 01:17:31.844 --> 01:17:33.644 minutes or 10 minutes or whatever. 01:17:33.735 --> 01:17:34.094 I've heard the 01:17:34.094 --> 01:17:34.575 Travis Bader: same thing. 01:17:34.580 --> 01:17:34.905 Right. 01:17:34.905 --> 01:17:35.384 Jesse Reardon: Just move. 01:17:35.384 --> 01:17:36.495 Like it's linger aggressive. 01:17:36.525 --> 01:17:36.945 That's right. 01:17:36.945 --> 01:17:40.214 If you're in that hole and it's, you give it a couple whirls. 01:17:40.214 --> 01:17:41.985 But yeah, I don't know. 01:17:42.195 --> 01:17:43.214 I'm impatient, I guess. 01:17:43.575 --> 01:17:46.815 And that's what I learned big saying I learned about hunting was, uh, patience. 01:17:46.905 --> 01:17:47.294 Okay. 01:17:47.535 --> 01:17:53.445 Travis Bader: So, um, Uh, still hunting, uh, laying up, um, stalking. 01:17:53.445 --> 01:17:56.115 What, what do you find to be out of all? 01:17:56.175 --> 01:17:59.925 Like, if you were just a kind of, you, you've been on so many different 01:17:59.925 --> 01:18:01.545 hunts, so many different animals. 01:18:01.995 --> 01:18:02.055 Jesse Reardon: Wow. 01:18:02.145 --> 01:18:05.355 The hardest thing to do is, and shockey's, I always think 01:18:05.360 --> 01:18:06.345 of sh what would Shockey do? 01:18:06.350 --> 01:18:08.895 But, uh, the hardest thing to do is just sit and wait for 01:18:08.895 --> 01:18:09.705 the animal to come to you. 01:18:09.835 --> 01:18:10.195 Mm-hmm. 01:18:10.755 --> 01:18:13.185 , because you know it's gonna pass through at some point. 01:18:13.185 --> 01:18:14.985 If you sit at the wind and blah, blah, blah. 01:18:15.345 --> 01:18:19.125 Often we would, sometimes, cuz you know, you're gonna make a bunch 01:18:19.125 --> 01:18:20.805 of noise on the stock or whatever. 01:18:20.805 --> 01:18:24.405 Like, sometimes you just gotta figure out or hope for the best and 01:18:24.410 --> 01:18:25.995 set up, wait for it to come to you. 01:18:26.475 --> 01:18:27.885 Travis Bader: And how long will you often wait for? 01:18:28.785 --> 01:18:28.995 Oh 01:18:28.995 --> 01:18:29.445 Jesse Reardon: man. 01:18:30.045 --> 01:18:31.505 Me or you or Jim? 01:18:31.505 --> 01:18:32.235 I'm a little impatient. 01:18:32.235 --> 01:18:35.325 He'd wait, he'd wait, he'd wait 21 days if you wanted, like, yep. 01:18:35.565 --> 01:18:36.075 Oh yeah. 01:18:36.255 --> 01:18:36.555 Travis Bader: Okay. 01:18:36.975 --> 01:18:37.125 Yeah. 01:18:37.185 --> 01:18:41.055 So, so, uh, not me buddy of mine says, well, let's go for a. 01:18:42.120 --> 01:18:44.009 and he says, I haven't, I haven't gotten a bear before. 01:18:44.009 --> 01:18:44.940 You wanna go in a bear hunt? 01:18:44.940 --> 01:18:45.269 I'm like, sure. 01:18:45.269 --> 01:18:45.839 Not a problem. 01:18:45.839 --> 01:18:48.420 I mean, there's some, there's effective tactics to getting 01:18:48.420 --> 01:18:50.670 bears said can be spot in 01:18:50.670 --> 01:18:51.240 Jesse Reardon: stock, 01:18:51.245 --> 01:18:52.280 Travis Bader: especially Right. 01:18:52.285 --> 01:18:53.250 Spot in stock, right? 01:18:53.254 --> 01:18:53.309 Yeah. 01:18:53.370 --> 01:18:54.360 I mean, uh, just, 01:18:54.480 --> 01:18:56.610 Jesse Reardon: or depends on the animal, on the weight thing too. 01:18:56.610 --> 01:18:56.879 Yeah. 01:18:56.910 --> 01:18:57.210 Yeah. 01:18:57.299 --> 01:18:58.889 Because spot and stock is awesome. 01:18:58.980 --> 01:18:59.400 Yeah. 01:18:59.700 --> 01:19:04.410 Travis Bader: So, but he's from the UK and has a background in, um, hunting 01:19:04.469 --> 01:19:07.650 deer in the, in, its, uh, you know, you're, you're deer stalking, right? 01:19:07.650 --> 01:19:10.440 And you're, you're walking around for these things, which is awesome. 01:19:10.445 --> 01:19:11.639 Which, which is awesome. 01:19:11.639 --> 01:19:13.650 But it, it was a, uh, I said, well, I'll come on with you. 01:19:13.650 --> 01:19:14.339 We can try it out. 01:19:14.339 --> 01:19:14.519 Right. 01:19:14.519 --> 01:19:18.629 It was a different sort of approach to bear hunting that, um, it was interesting. 01:19:18.690 --> 01:19:21.960 And finally we're like, you know, like, what would you do if you saw one 01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:24.179 just as you're coming around a corner? 01:19:24.240 --> 01:19:25.379 Because the thing will take off on you. 01:19:25.599 --> 01:19:26.080 Yeah. 01:19:26.190 --> 01:19:28.740 Will you have time to identify it and see if that's when you 01:19:28.740 --> 01:19:30.360 want, if it's got cubs or not? 01:19:30.360 --> 01:19:34.889 I'm like, for me, I, I prefer to, I'll walk a logging road because. 01:19:35.150 --> 01:19:37.760 Springtime they're gonna be out there or you'll be in an area 01:19:37.760 --> 01:19:39.320 where they're gonna be Yeah. 01:19:39.320 --> 01:19:41.000 Likely and just set up and wait. 01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:43.790 Maybe use a predator call and have your head on a swivel 01:19:44.215 --> 01:19:44.510 . Jesse Reardon: Yeah. 01:19:44.690 --> 01:19:47.870 Spot in stock bears was, I filmed a lot of those Hunts up 01:19:47.870 --> 01:19:49.160 island cuz Jim was a outfit. 01:19:49.250 --> 01:19:50.630 E outfitted north, northern island. 01:19:50.630 --> 01:19:50.840 Okay. 01:19:51.500 --> 01:19:56.600 And uh, yeah, those were um, yeah, lots of spot in stock and just getting 01:19:56.600 --> 01:20:01.490 high up glassing, watching the, the big deactivated logging roads. 01:20:01.490 --> 01:20:01.580 Mm-hmm. 01:20:01.825 --> 01:20:02.450 looking for that sign. 01:20:02.450 --> 01:20:02.570 Yeah. 01:20:02.575 --> 01:20:03.170 You know? 01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:03.950 Sure. 01:20:04.040 --> 01:20:06.500 But for bears it was always good win. 01:20:07.160 --> 01:20:07.760 Yes. 01:20:08.510 --> 01:20:10.190 And uh, yeah, 01:20:10.220 --> 01:20:10.700 Travis Bader: it was always good. 01:20:10.700 --> 01:20:11.870 What was your favorite thing to film? 01:20:12.590 --> 01:20:15.860 Jesse Reardon: Well, I gotta say film and moose and Yukon is up there. 01:20:16.130 --> 01:20:17.360 The right is pretty unreal. 01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:18.990 . Yeah. 01:20:19.530 --> 01:20:20.970 But honestly, I think it'd be the same with elk. 01:20:20.970 --> 01:20:22.230 That's why there's crazy elk. 01:20:22.230 --> 01:20:26.220 I didn't get many on many good elk hunts where I had like, good, like, 01:20:26.220 --> 01:20:27.690 ru and animals come, come to you. 01:20:27.810 --> 01:20:27.840 Mm. 01:20:27.870 --> 01:20:31.080 I love the blacktail on the island because there is some big bucks 01:20:31.080 --> 01:20:34.860 out there and, but they're just so nocturnals, they're just hard to hunt. 01:20:34.860 --> 01:20:37.380 But, um, yeah, moose was pretty epic. 01:20:37.385 --> 01:20:37.790 Yeah. 01:20:38.040 --> 01:20:42.570 Africa stuff was cool, but, um, you know, jungles of Cameroon was pretty intense. 01:20:42.570 --> 01:20:44.970 The bongo, that was a, that was a really cool hunt. 01:20:45.240 --> 01:20:45.570 Yeah. 01:20:45.780 --> 01:20:45.930 Yeah. 01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:48.110 Bongo, it's, they're cool looking animal antelope. 01:20:48.115 --> 01:20:48.240 Yeah. 01:20:48.270 --> 01:20:49.710 Really cool animal. 01:20:49.800 --> 01:20:50.010 Yeah. 01:20:50.160 --> 01:20:51.900 Little stripes in the North America. 01:20:51.900 --> 01:20:52.710 It's definitely 01:20:53.070 --> 01:20:53.490 Travis Bader: moose. 01:20:53.490 --> 01:20:53.910 Moose, eh? 01:20:54.150 --> 01:20:54.570 Mm-hmm. 01:20:55.350 --> 01:20:59.280 . Well, I think, uh, so the, the closest thing to a Yukon moose hunt would be the 01:20:59.280 --> 01:21:05.970 Tesla one, but just on the BC side, um, I'd love to do a full on Yukon moose hunt. 01:21:06.060 --> 01:21:06.600 Yeah. 01:21:06.660 --> 01:21:10.530 Maybe I should, uh, I should look at that for, uh, next season or two. 01:21:10.530 --> 01:21:11.030 See what we can do. 01:21:11.460 --> 01:21:11.849 I had, 01:21:12.120 --> 01:21:14.820 Jesse Reardon: I filmed for, uh, uh, Yukon Harvest. 01:21:14.825 --> 01:21:15.120 Okay. 01:21:15.120 --> 01:21:16.440 It's on aptn. 01:21:16.440 --> 01:21:16.599 Yeah. 01:21:16.605 --> 01:21:17.910 I filmed one of the hunts for that. 01:21:18.360 --> 01:21:18.570 Yeah. 01:21:18.750 --> 01:21:19.920 On the Tesla there. 01:21:20.460 --> 01:21:23.440 And, uh, that harvest shot was a disaster. 01:21:24.434 --> 01:21:25.275 But I In what way? 01:21:27.315 --> 01:21:29.415 . . Like, well, , yeah. 01:21:29.415 --> 01:21:30.795 It was not, not the best. 01:21:30.795 --> 01:21:33.615 It was from the boat on, on a river, which is legal. 01:21:33.615 --> 01:21:36.345 And yeah, I, everything was done legally, of course. 01:21:36.434 --> 01:21:40.155 Um, but the boat, the guide got excited. 01:21:40.905 --> 01:21:43.394 So the, and we're drifted on a river, right? 01:21:43.575 --> 01:21:45.795 So he is not, the boat is turning. 01:21:46.035 --> 01:21:46.305 Mm. 01:21:47.300 --> 01:21:51.050 so the hunter's even going, he's moving with, so I'm 01:21:51.350 --> 01:21:52.310 Travis Bader: trying to get outta the way of that 01:21:52.310 --> 01:21:52.730 Jesse Reardon: muscle. 01:21:52.790 --> 01:21:54.410 And I'm also trying to Oh yeah. 01:21:54.410 --> 01:21:55.850 Also trying to film the, uh, thing. 01:21:55.850 --> 01:21:56.000 Yeah. 01:21:56.810 --> 01:21:57.980 . Anyways, it was a good story. 01:21:57.980 --> 01:21:59.570 It was a, it was a 13 year old boy. 01:22:00.140 --> 01:22:04.670 It was, uh, his first moose hunt with his father and this mentor, and it was a, 01:22:04.700 --> 01:22:07.670 for the native Native, it was very, yeah. 01:22:07.670 --> 01:22:08.090 That's cool. 01:22:08.090 --> 01:22:08.720 It's really cool. 01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:10.040 Series Yukon Harvest. 01:22:10.280 --> 01:22:10.520 Travis Bader: Huh? 01:22:11.660 --> 01:22:14.870 Is there anything that we should be talking about that we haven't covered yet? 01:22:14.900 --> 01:22:15.830 I think we've been pretty good. 01:22:15.830 --> 01:22:16.040 Jesse Reardon: Hey. 01:22:16.130 --> 01:22:16.580 Yeah. 01:22:16.640 --> 01:22:17.410 You know, I think, I feel. 01:22:17.865 --> 01:22:18.285 Travis Bader: Okay. 01:22:18.765 --> 01:22:19.885 Well I'm gonna Thank you. 01:22:19.890 --> 01:22:22.995 I'm gonna throw some links up to some of the videos if people want to see 01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:26.355 more about you and some of the work you've done and yeah, some of the 01:22:26.355 --> 01:22:31.275 stuff with, uh, shock therapy and, and Jim Shocky and I'll put it out there. 01:22:31.275 --> 01:22:35.655 If the listeners, anyone has ideas of, uh, perhaps sponsors for Jesse, 01:22:35.895 --> 01:22:39.285 if they'd like, if they'd like to see a, uh, yeah man, I'll film it. 01:22:39.315 --> 01:22:40.995 Cross Canada fishing trip. 01:22:40.995 --> 01:22:42.945 Cuz personally I think it sounds fantastic. 01:22:42.950 --> 01:22:44.235 There are so many people 01:22:44.295 --> 01:22:45.135 Jesse Reardon: go with the boys 01:22:45.165 --> 01:22:46.605 Travis Bader: learn to fish, right? 01:22:46.695 --> 01:22:49.785 So many people who want to learn how to hunt or fish and they 01:22:49.790 --> 01:22:51.585 never had that opportunity. 01:22:51.735 --> 01:22:52.215 Yeah. 01:22:52.275 --> 01:22:55.725 But with today's day and age of YouTube and social media and the rest, yeah. 01:22:55.725 --> 01:22:57.525 It's kind of like that teacher that you never 01:22:57.525 --> 01:22:57.735 Jesse Reardon: have. 01:22:57.735 --> 01:23:00.855 Well, I was gonna kind of do some YouTube, uh, posts as I go through. 01:23:00.855 --> 01:23:04.545 And also like when I'm in these crazy pockets where there's like an epic 01:23:04.545 --> 01:23:08.205 little fishing community, I'm gonna find the father son duo and I'm gonna 01:23:08.385 --> 01:23:10.155 spend a day with them and learn why. 01:23:10.650 --> 01:23:12.750 You know they're in that area and they go fish with them 01:23:12.750 --> 01:23:14.040 for they document their date. 01:23:14.190 --> 01:23:14.849 That's amazing. 01:23:14.849 --> 01:23:18.360 And then they teach my boys, and then they teach me ultimately 01:23:18.360 --> 01:23:19.559 to teach my boys how to fish. 01:23:19.559 --> 01:23:19.799 Right. 01:23:20.070 --> 01:23:20.759 That's amazing. 01:23:20.820 --> 01:23:23.940 That's where we learn from our dads or grandpa, 01:23:24.299 --> 01:23:25.500 Travis Bader: sorry, family dads. 01:23:25.505 --> 01:23:26.040 Yeah. 01:23:27.120 --> 01:23:30.090 Jesse, thank you very much for being on the Silvercore podcast. 01:23:30.360 --> 01:23:30.780 Yeah, thanks 01:23:30.780 --> 01:23:31.139 Jesse Reardon: for having me. 01:23:31.139 --> 01:23:34.679 Sorry it took to you so long and I picked the worst day in DC to be here. 01:23:35.070 --> 01:23:36.599 No, I mean, it's supposed to get worse tomorrow. 01:23:36.599 --> 01:23:38.219 Hey, it's minus six here guys. 01:23:38.309 --> 01:23:39.630 You guys in Alberta got nothing. 01:23:40.950 --> 01:23:41.460 . Travis Bader: Yeah, right. 01:23:41.910 --> 01:23:42.799 Jesse Reardon: Thank you all.