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Travis Bader: I'm Travis Bader,
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ca.

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This is going to be a fun episode.

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I'm joined again from Silvercore podcast,
episode number 86, Satchin Lahti, Satchin.

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Thank you for coming on back.

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Really enjoyed our last conversation.

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Great to

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Sachin Latti: see you again.

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Yeah, man.

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Thanks for having me back.

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And it's always a pleasure to
come see you and talk to you.

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And especially in this
amazing studio, legit, man,

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Travis Bader: I'm going to do things
a little differently this time.

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Um, I'm going to start off
with a couple of asks and these

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are asks for the audience.

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There's people watching on YouTube
to the people listening in Apple

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podcast, Spotify, wherever ask
number one, such in lottie.

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com, uh, such in motion.

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com.

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There we go.

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There you go.

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You need to get such a lottie.

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Sachin Latti: com to you.

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I probably should.

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We'll, we'll look at that soon.

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Travis Bader: Uh, such in motion.

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com.

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I'm going to have a link to that in
the, in the bio here, check it out.

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Support him on his endeavor.

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Last time we were talking about
2025, the goal to run across Canada

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and possibly working towards beating
the world record on that one.

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Uh, Ask number two would be if people
find value in this podcast, share it,

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subscribe, help other people learn about
what's happening here on the podcast.

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It's done wonders for such and how he
uses social media, how he has his account

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and other people will share information
on their accounts of his journey as he's

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working towards the cross Canada tour.

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Leaving a comment, leaving a
review on Apple podcasts, uh,

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sharing it on social media.

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We're one big community and
it just makes it bigger.

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I'm just amazed at how many people
are actually listening to this all

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over the world, Hong Kong, United
Emirates, Ireland, UK, US, Canada.

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It's pretty crazy.

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And if all of these people.

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Take a moment just to click, subscribe,
share it with others, leave a review.

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It means a world of a difference and it
helps us get the message out for people

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like such in here and what they're doing.

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So those are my asks.

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I ask

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Sachin Latti: too.

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Travis Bader: You know what?

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I'm, I'm learning.

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I'm learning.

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I'm always been shy about that.

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I don't want to put that ask out
there, but I think it's important.

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And a lot of times people don't realize
what an impact they can make just at.

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An individual level, some people
can, they can donate to your

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endeavors or what you're doing, but
if they can't donate a simple follow

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subscribe, repost man, that amplifies

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Sachin Latti: the message.

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I agree, man.

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I think, um, look, I mean, not
everyone has the means to donate and

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some people don't feel like actually
giving money, but they want to take

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actions um, yeah, I mean, share,
subscribe, like all these things.

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Um, Help us continue
doing what we're doing.

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It also inspires us further that
people are actually valuing what we do.

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So that's helpful too.

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So I think if people are keen
on following things or people

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that are trying to do, um.

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Do better, then let's support everyone.

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You

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Travis Bader: know, it's one of
those things that you do it for you

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really, at the end of the day, you're
doing it for yourself, but you want

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to take a look at those metrics.

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Where was I before?

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Where is my headspace at?

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Where's my performance at?

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And where's my finances at?

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All these different things.

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Where am I now?

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And what is my metric for
success that I'm looking at?

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Am I moving towards as Earl
Nightingale would say, the progressive

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realization of a worthy ideal.

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And it means the world when other people
are on board, if they don't have the

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means, and I, I'm one of those people
who oftentimes people will hit me up for

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money and they'll say, Oh, can you donate?

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Can you donate to know if it's a cause
that I really believe in, I'm going

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to say, I'd rather donate my time.

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I'd rather donate my efforts.

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I'd rather be alongside with you
and help you get to where you need.

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I understand that money is
important, but even if that's just

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sharing something on social media,
that, that, that helps, right.

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Or coming beside you.

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Like, I wish I was able to be
there and squamish on the day

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that you're coming through.

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Seb and the crew, everyone was down there.

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That looked amazing.

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Sachin Latti: Honestly, man, I, I think
I don't, I gotta be not careful, but

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I should be mindful of how I say this,
but I kind of agree with you too, um,

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you know, obviously donations are,
donations are needed and super important

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sponsors are, um, helpful, but I think
for me, what I really value is people

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who are like minded who have, who I
respect, um, and who are by my side.

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Uh, or I'm by their side,
supporting each other as friends.

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I mean, you can't really beat that, man.

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You

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Travis Bader: got one life to live.

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Yeah.

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When you're all done with it, you can't,
you can't take the money with you, right?

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The money will help you.

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It's a means to an end.

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You know, they did a study on money and
happiness, and I'm sure they've done many

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of them, but here's one that I can recall.

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And it talked about, uh, money
being a motivator for an individual.

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And they found that if.

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Money was provided to somebody who
let's say you're producing a product.

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You get one token or 1 for
each product that you produce.

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There's a direct correlation
between the amount of money you

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can pay a person and their output.

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So, Hey, you're getting
better performance.

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You get, you make one widget, you
get 1, you do a hundred widgets,

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you get a hundred dollars.

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Direct correlation.

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So that they found money was a motivator.

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Anything outside of that, they
found there was a threshold.

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And they said, once you've got food,
you've got shelter, you've got clothing,

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you're, you've got basic necessities, a
little spending, a little folding money

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in your pocket to go out and have some,
have some fun, whatever that might be.

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Uh, money.

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We'll have an inverse effect
on a person's performance.

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The, the more they paid an individual, the
less productive that individual became,

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especially if it was in a creative sphere.

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Okay, such, and I want you to
create this beautiful piece of art.

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I want you to write a story.

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I'm going to pay you more and more money.

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And the more money that the person paid,
the more pressure came on and the less

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of performance actually, uh, thrived and.

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What a person really needs is that
internal desire or burn inside them to,

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to create, or to move towards something
that's going to be desirable for them and

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see money as a natural by product of that.

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You have that burn, you have that desire.

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Uh, you just came back
from running 22 marathons.

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In 22 days.

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Yeah, I did.

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Holy crow.

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I mean, people, people brag about
how I did a marathon last year.

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Right.

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And that's a big achievement
for a lot of people.

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For sure.

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22 and 22 days.

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Yeah.

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Sachin Latti: So, yeah, man, for sure.

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Um, a lot of people set goals for
themselves and I'm no different.

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I, I set goals for myself and, um, it's
interesting, I remember saying on the

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last podcast, I was, I had some goals
and I mentioned some of those goals and

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one of them was to run a marathon a day.

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Not for 22 days, but to create myself to
a person that could run a marathon a day.

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And I made that commitment or I set
that goal about two years ago after

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hearing Cameron Haynes on a podcast.

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And after I heard him on a podcast talking
about how he runs a marathon a day.

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And, you know, explaining
his training and whatnot.

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I was like, holy man, I want to do that.

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And it sparked some curiosity in me, man.

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I didn't even know that was possible.

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So for me, I didn't know
that was humanly possible.

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I just, you know, shelter didn't really
experience these types of things.

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Didn't know it existed, whatever.

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And as soon as I realized it was a thing,
I was like, okay, um, how do you do that?

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And I want to figure that out.

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So I set on a course and a, and
a trajectory to figure that out.

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And, um, August 26th of this year, I
finished running 22 marathons in a row.

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And I was, for me, it was
to raise money and awareness

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for the honour house society.

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It was a charity sort of fundraiser,
but also it was something for me.

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It was something for me
to realize that I could.

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You know, if I set my mind to something,
and if I, um, put in some effort, and,

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um, was consistent in all the things
associated to it, I could achieve

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something, uh, I thought was impossible.

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And for me, I did.

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Travis Bader: So on the onset 22
and 22 days, did it enter your mind

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that you might not complete it?

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Did it enter your mind that, uh, you might
want to give up, you might get injured?

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Uh, did you have contingency
plans ahead of time?

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Sachin Latti: So I, I
suspected I'd get injured.

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I suspected I would, you know,
something may happen, there would

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be obstacles or whatever they were.

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I suspected these things would happen.

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I didn't think anything would stop me.

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I thought things may slow me down.

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Um, but nothing was going to stop me.

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And it would have had to have
been something absolutely

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catastrophic for me to stop.

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And I already framed those things in
my mind in advance of kicking off.

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Travis Bader: I really like that.

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It's not going to stop me.

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It might slow me down,
but I'm getting there.

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Nonetheless, you've taken
quitting out of the equation.

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You've taken failure out of the equation.

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Because there's always a way, I
mean, Terry Fox did it with one leg,

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Sachin Latti: right?

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And it's been done.

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Sure.

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I know it's been done a million times.

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I know tons of people that have
done similar types of things.

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And, um, so I know it's possible
now I'm in that space of

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trying to find savages, right?

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So there are lots of them
if you start looking.

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And as soon as I started looking,
I started finding these types of

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people and I was like, man, I need
to become one of these people.

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So I need to place myself in the center
of that environment and figure it out.

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And that's kind of what I've been doing.

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And, um, no, so failure wasn't an option.

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I was going to finish and, uh,
maybe get slowed down, but that

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was the only thing that was going
to really affect the 22 days.

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Travis Bader: Who do you look up to?

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Sachin Latti: In which capacity?

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Well,

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Travis Bader: uh, I guess in preparing
for the 22 and 22, wanting to surround

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yourself with savages, there's going to
be a physical aspect of that, there's

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going to be a mental aspect to that.

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I I guess in any capacity,
I'll leave it open ended.

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Sure,

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Sachin Latti: sure.

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For me, from a physical capacity,
I'm not sure if I looked up to people

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because I think physically I have the
capabilities to do just about anything.

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Do I, do I have the
mindset to do anything?

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That's a different question.

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So for me, it was, I wanted to surround
myself by people who had mindset, who

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had a mind that I was, um, Chasing,
not a, not a physique, not a, not a

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physical capability I was chasing.

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So for me, you know, people like Sean
Taylor, um, people like Seb Lavoie, you

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know, just people that are immediately
around me, but then also from a, from

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a social media perspective, you know,
various different podcasts, you know,

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like your campaigns and various other
types of people that have accomplished.

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Really bigger things
than even Cameron Haynes.

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Like, you know, the, I can't remember the
fellow's name, but he ran 78 marathons

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in a row just last summer in England.

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Oh yeah.

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So he did that and I was like, okay, cool.

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Let me see this guy.

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So I should start tracking him,
see what he's doing, how he's

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doing it, how he's managing it.

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And then I thought, well, if he
can do that, I can do this easy.

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Cause it was only 22.

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So just framing it differently for
me to be, make it more, um, um, you

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know, what's, what's that saying?

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You know, how do you eat an elephant?

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One bite at a time.

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There you go.

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Travis Bader: Yeah.

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So if we break it down into before,
during and after, just cause I'm curious

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about this, uh, Michael Easter, he would
wrote a book called, uh, the comfort

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crisis and he advocates for people.

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Being uncomfortable and that's the
road to happiness and satisfaction.

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And he calls things, um, I guess
he uses the Japanese term and I'm

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probably going to say it wrong,
but it's, um, Muskogee, Musogee.

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Somebody here can, uh, help us out.

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Yeah.

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Help us out and correct me on that one.

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But essentially the, the odds
of you completing 50, 50.

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It's gotta be something hard,
something really difficult.

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And you.

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Endeavor to put yourself on that
and experience those hardships.

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And there's only two rules.

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I only remember one of the
rules, which is don't die.

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But, uh, aside from that, there
is another rule in there, which

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somebody can help me out again.

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But for me, I would think doing
22 marathons in 22 days would

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be a bit of a, I'm a so you.

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I'm not a runner.

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I'm not built as a runner.

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I hurt myself every time I start
running, whether that's knees or

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break, um, bones in my feet and
I'm carrying too much weight.

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And I, I go too hard, too fast,
perhaps, or maybe being six, six,

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250 pounds, I'm not really the
optimal, uh, uh, built for a runner.

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There's other things I
can do phenomenally well.

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Um, how do you mentally prepare for this?

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Sachin Latti: Good question.

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So like anything that you.

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Like anything that you're going to start,
obviously, you're not going to be good at.

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Anything you start, no matter
if it's 22 marathons or 5k, if

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you're new to it, you're new to it
and you're not going to be good.

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You might have a certain aptitude,
but you're still not going

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to be amazing or fantastic.

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So to put it in a, in a, an example
that you may understand, if I go

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hunting with you tomorrow, I'll suck.

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I've never done it, but if I spend
two years, every single day obsessed

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by how to get better and what I need
to do, then the progress tends to

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get faster and faster and faster.

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So for me, the 22 marathons, the
journey started three years ago.

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So I've been, now I didn't know I was
going to run 22 marathons three years ago.

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But I started a journey of trying to see
what I, what was possible for me and I

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continued training, I continued running.

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I would, I'm still obsessed by
all of it and not a negative

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obsession, just a positive.

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I want to learn.

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I want to get better.

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I want to push the envelope.

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So through that process, after let's
say two years in December of last

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year is when I started thinking
about, Hey, this 22 marathons thing.

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So the conversation really happened
with myself and my coach, Ron.

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He's my running coach and he
knows what my ultimate plan is

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to run across Canada in 2025.

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So, you know, I was initially
thinking about having a training

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block, maybe three, 400 kilometers,
maybe a one week kind of thing.

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And then he's like, listen, man,
if you want to break a record or

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even get close to it, you need
something more of a training block.

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So we started brainstorming different
ideas, what, what's that look like?

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And we started off with, let's say.

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You know, 30 marathons in a row, whatever,
all these different sort of ideas.

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And then eventually came to the 22,
because of it's a specific reason for

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the number and the numbers related
to veterans in the United States,

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the study was conducted, which showed
that 22 veterans a day commit suicide

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because of mental health related issues.

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So I wanted to highlight that.

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So now.

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Starting in December of

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Travis Bader: last year, and
that's a crazy number, by the way.

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That's an insane number.

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It's 22 a day.

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It's

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Sachin Latti: ridiculous.

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And look, man, if we, and
that study was done in 2011.

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It was done in the United States.

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It didn't incorporate Canada and
didn't incorporate first responders.

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So if you were to include emergency
personnel, firefighters, police,

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all these people, I would suspect
that number's a lot higher.

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I'd say so.

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Right.

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So it's a, it's a number
that's, it's a tragic number

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and I wanted to highlight it.

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And so, Really since December
until August, I was all in, man.

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I was training to do the thing.

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And so every single day was focused
and dedicated and on that path.

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So I was prepared.

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So now before I started,
I believed in myself.

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Sure.

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I had no clue I could do it
because I had never done it before.

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No

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Travis Bader: idea.

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So that's sort of an ignorance is bliss.

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Yeah.

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Like

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Sachin Latti: I didn't
know what I didn't know.

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Right.

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Like the most I had ever run in a
row was three marathons in a row.

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I've ran that before.

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Like three days in a
row, three days in a row.

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Okay.

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Right.

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So I, you know, 42.

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2 kilometers.

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So if people who don't know how
much a marathon is, it's 42 point.

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Two kilometers.

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And um, so the most I had done
was last year was three in a row.

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And so after I had done that
last year, I was like, man, I

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never thought I could do that.

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That also precipitated the other thing.

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Oh, what else can I do?

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Rather than I'm going to.

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And typically, generally, from
my experience, when I see people,

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I'm going to train for a marathon
in eight months or nine months,

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and that's all I'm going to do.

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And they reach that goal
and then they're done.

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They don't want to see what else they can
do because they've accomplished one thing.

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And then, okay, let's keep moving forward.

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For me, it's a bit different.

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Um, it's a constant effort to
continue to see what I'm capable of.

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All the time, at least right now, from
a physical perspective, I'm now starting

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to apply that sort of way of thinking
across all levels now and other metrics

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of my life, not just the physical.

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Travis Bader: Okay.

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So I know we're going to break out
of this before, during and after.

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But I'm pretty sure I brought this
one up with you before Rockefeller

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famously asked, how much is enough?

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You've got so much money.

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How much is enough?

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And he says to the reporter, just 1 more.

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All right.

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Always 1 more.

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So I'm going to ask
you how much is enough?

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Sachin Latti: I don't know.

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I haven't, I don't know.

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I'm just going to keep going until
I keep, I can't, like, I don't,

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for me, there's no enough, man.

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It's like, um, I haven't reached even
close to what I think I'm capable of

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from not just a physical way, but all
of the ways you would measure success.

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And I'm not even.

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I haven't, I don't think
I've scratched the surface.

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So why would I stop now?

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Man, I got to keep moving.

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Travis Bader: It's funny when you start
pushing beyond that circle of boundaries

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where people think their limitations are.

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And the second you step
outside that, it's like.

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Holy crow, how much further can I go?

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I I'd liken it to the first time.

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I mean, growing up and up to about 18.

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I, I really didn't travel.

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And I remember a buddy says, Hey,
we've got a couple of quad bikes.

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Let's go down to Oregon.

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We're going to race in the sand dunes.

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This is going to be fantastic.

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So I spent a week in Oregon in the
sand dunes with these quad bikes with

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paddle tires on, and it was pretty fun.

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Right.

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And I was like, this is the furthest
away from home I've ever been.

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Let's keep going.

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Right.

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And then kept driving down
through, through Oregon, through

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California, through Nevada, until
I eventually ran out of money.

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But, uh, but that feeling of, um, I'm, I'm
further than I have been, and I have no

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idea where these limits are, but I have to
wonder, there's another analogy that I'll

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use, which is kind of like cliff jumping.

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I'll go and I'll go cliff jumping.

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And it's one of those things at an
early age, I decided cliff jumping is

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probably not the activity for me because
after I jump off the cliff and I feel

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comfortable and I do it a few times, I
say, let's go higher and I'll do it again.

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Let's go higher.

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And I keep doing that.

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And at some point, I know that I'm
going to end up injuring myself

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or there's going to be an adverse.

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Effect to my constant pushing
to go higher and higher.

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Sachin Latti: So to that,
that's when you, now you found

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the left of arc, so to speak.

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Now you don't go further than that now.

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Yeah, but you want to.

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But you got to first find that, right?

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You got to find it first.

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You

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Travis Bader: got to find it and then
push it because it's in your nature.

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Sure.

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But you find

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Sachin Latti: it.

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And so let's say you find that
spot where you get injured.

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Okay, cool.

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Now you found the spot where
you're getting injured.

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Now you find the other spot on the other
end where you can find some more balance.

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Then you get to the other side again
and see, okay, let's push that further.

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How much further can we go based
upon that sort of way of thinking?

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But one thing I wanted to ask you,
um, You know, you, you mentioned you

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had traveled in the quadding, right?

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Yeah.

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And, um, you stopped when
you ran out of money.

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Did that change your life or at
least the way you saw things?

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Cause now you traveled, you did
something you never thought you could do.

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Did that change something for you or light

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Travis Bader: something up?

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Oh, a hundred percent.

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Yeah.

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Then I started traveling further
and further and I was getting,

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taking on odd jobs and doing
work in order to get more money.

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I was sleeping in the
back of the pickup truck.

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I mean, really all we were paying for was
gas and bananas because bananas are cheap.

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And that was basically all I was eating.

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Um, but, um, yeah, a hundred percent
of dead and it can, it's exciting.

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And you talk about balance.

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It can askew that balance.

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And it's important to push the scale
and tip it to see where it is and

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then allow it to kind of level back.

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But that balance is one of these
things that people keep looking for.

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They saying, Oh, you have
to have a work life balance.

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You have to have a balance here.

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You have to, and.

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I don't know, work life balance.

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If you're talking about a
work life balance balances,

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life is the important one.

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There should be no balance there.

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Work should be a means to an end so
that you can live a life in a way that's

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going to be productive for yourself,
your family, your friends around you.

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I don't think there should be any
question of, it should be totally askew.

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Work should be, in my opinion, the
means to the end, unless of course

00:22:46.915 --> 00:22:50.015
that is your driving factor and
that is your life and that's work.

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And fair enough.

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I won't begrudge somebody for that.

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It's different from my perspective.

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Yeah.

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And

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Sachin Latti: look, I agree, man.

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And I might even begrudge some
people about it because maybe they

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don't truly understand what their
purpose and why they're here.

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Um, why they're actually here, right?

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So if you're saying, so when I hear work
life balance, I think, okay, someone's

00:23:09.270 --> 00:23:12.910
going into an office or someone's going
doing a job and then their balance is, oh,

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I got to make sure that my family's okay.

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So I got to make sure
my workplace is okay.

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And then I got to make
sure this place is okay.

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Cool.

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I understand that I've been in
that space for a long, long time.

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Um, what I'm starting to maybe explore
and, um, understand perhaps is, um,

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like you said, work is just, I think
there's a way to find where the balance

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and the work are one in the same.

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So I, again, I don't know.

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I'm just kind of.

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Brainstorming and thinking
about it out loud.

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But I think if there's a way to
find where you're doing both at the

00:23:47.554 --> 00:23:51.425
same time, well, then the balance
is supremely achieved, isn't it?

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And so for example, if, if I'm living
a life of service and through that.

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Well, maybe I'm making a little bit of
money to provide for myself and my family.

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I think that would probably be the
ideal work life balance because now I'm

00:24:07.450 --> 00:24:12.170
doing something that I love to do every
single day, and I'm also then able to

00:24:12.170 --> 00:24:14.060
sustain and support myself and my family.

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And then who knows, maybe help
other people along that path.

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But I think if you're in an
environment where, okay, it's work

00:24:20.949 --> 00:24:22.199
over here and balance over here.

00:24:22.930 --> 00:24:26.870
I think you're, you might become
somewhat limited on how much service

00:24:26.870 --> 00:24:29.910
you could provide or how much support
you could provide or whatever you

00:24:29.910 --> 00:24:34.010
want to say to the balance part and
to the community part, if that makes

00:24:34.010 --> 00:24:34.360
Travis Bader: sense.

00:24:34.760 --> 00:24:35.850
It totally makes sense.

00:24:35.930 --> 00:24:37.590
It, it brings to mind a couple of things.

00:24:37.590 --> 00:24:41.859
So people say you don't want to turn
your hobby into your work, right?

00:24:41.860 --> 00:24:45.160
You don't want, you don't want
to make yourself, uh, sick of

00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:47.330
the thing that you love so much
by turning that into your work.

00:24:47.330 --> 00:24:52.600
And I can see that perspective if
somebody Really love something.

00:24:52.600 --> 00:24:55.269
And then they say, how
can I make money at this?

00:24:55.269 --> 00:24:56.559
How can I make this my job?

00:24:56.899 --> 00:25:00.370
But the perspective then changes because
they're looking at the job side, as

00:25:00.370 --> 00:25:01.840
opposed to what it is that they love.

00:25:02.399 --> 00:25:06.799
If they look at that in a different
way and they say, how can.

00:25:08.130 --> 00:25:11.660
How can success, whatever that
metric is going to be, be a natural

00:25:11.670 --> 00:25:15.440
by product of the hard work that I
put in towards what I love to do.

00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:19.700
Uh, then I think, I think a person's
winning because they're not turning

00:25:19.700 --> 00:25:21.280
what they love to do into work.

00:25:22.149 --> 00:25:25.809
They're doing what they love to do,
and maybe they have to consult others

00:25:25.809 --> 00:25:30.099
who have traveled this path before,
have other people like for myself, I'm

00:25:30.099 --> 00:25:32.739
not good at valuing things for myself.

00:25:32.739 --> 00:25:34.349
I'm not good at putting the ask out.

00:25:34.389 --> 00:25:34.649
Yeah.

00:25:34.729 --> 00:25:35.579
Other people do it for me.

00:25:35.579 --> 00:25:36.069
No problem.

00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:36.339
Yeah.

00:25:36.870 --> 00:25:40.060
Great, that's a good relationship, right?

00:25:40.060 --> 00:25:40.570
Absolutely.

00:25:40.570 --> 00:25:40.959
I agree.

00:25:41.100 --> 00:25:41.350
Yeah.

00:25:41.419 --> 00:25:46.529
And the old analogy, you know, if
you want to summit some mountains

00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:51.810
and your goal is to summit those
mountains, sure, you'll do it.

00:25:52.070 --> 00:25:56.489
But the person who loves mountaineering
and does it for the love of mountaineering

00:25:57.310 --> 00:26:01.419
will out summit and out hike the person
whose end goal is just to summit those

00:26:01.419 --> 00:26:01.909
Sachin Latti: mountains.

00:26:01.969 --> 00:26:03.459
No, case in point, what I just did.

00:26:03.489 --> 00:26:05.040
Exactly what I'm thinking.

00:26:05.300 --> 00:26:06.530
I mean, really, because.

00:26:08.110 --> 00:26:12.949
This is, um, what I'm trying
to do is to figure out, no,

00:26:13.100 --> 00:26:13.880
I'm not even figuring it out.

00:26:13.909 --> 00:26:14.909
I know what my purpose is.

00:26:15.620 --> 00:26:18.139
I know what I'm doing in
terms of why I'm doing it.

00:26:19.029 --> 00:26:24.659
Now, through that process, if
money comes into it or remuneration

00:26:24.659 --> 00:26:26.290
comes into it through that.

00:26:27.094 --> 00:26:33.834
Leading a factor on cool, that's
fine, but I'm not doing any of

00:26:33.834 --> 00:26:35.284
what I'm doing to make money.

00:26:35.344 --> 00:26:35.794
Right.

00:26:35.924 --> 00:26:41.544
I'm doing it because I have a, I had
some basic skill sets that I wanted

00:26:41.564 --> 00:26:47.404
to really maximize and develop for
myself and for the people around me

00:26:47.514 --> 00:26:51.345
and by extension, social media and all
the other places that it can happen.

00:26:52.004 --> 00:26:55.994
So I'm leading with that
focus and if money comes in.

00:26:56.909 --> 00:26:59.460
Bonus, that's kind of how I'm framing it.

00:26:59.960 --> 00:27:02.379
And, and, um, it seems to be working.

00:27:02.379 --> 00:27:05.670
Look, I'm not making millions of
dollars and I don't care to at this,

00:27:05.700 --> 00:27:07.150
you know, if it happens, it happens.

00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:09.080
But I'm happy, man.

00:27:09.460 --> 00:27:13.039
I'm every single day I get
to do what I love to do.

00:27:13.340 --> 00:27:13.980
That's amazing.

00:27:13.990 --> 00:27:17.960
And every single day I get to talk
to people that are cool people.

00:27:18.399 --> 00:27:22.430
And every single day I get to see what
I'm capable of and what's possible.

00:27:22.430 --> 00:27:26.370
And I challenge myself every single,
every single day I'm challenging myself,

00:27:26.659 --> 00:27:32.080
either physically or mentally it's, it's
happening because I want to develop myself

00:27:32.659 --> 00:27:37.040
three, four years ago, I was, I'm not
even a fraction of the human that I was

00:27:37.090 --> 00:27:38.650
like, I'm, I'm so much more different now.

00:27:38.910 --> 00:27:41.019
Like even six months ago, I'm
a different human than I was.

00:27:41.514 --> 00:27:42.754
Even six months ago, I

00:27:42.754 --> 00:27:45.635
Travis Bader: challenged people to
listen to the last podcast you're on.

00:27:45.935 --> 00:27:51.544
And when we talked, you're in a different
headspace, totally different energy.

00:27:51.865 --> 00:27:53.215
You're way more centered.

00:27:54.564 --> 00:27:54.715
Sachin Latti: Yeah.

00:27:54.715 --> 00:27:55.455
There's a difference.

00:27:55.485 --> 00:27:55.895
I know.

00:27:55.924 --> 00:27:59.634
I mean, look, man, I, I know for sure
there's a difference cause I could.

00:27:59.900 --> 00:28:02.260
I remember what I was feeling then.

00:28:03.040 --> 00:28:06.910
And, uh, there was a lot of angst,
there was a lot of anxiety, there was

00:28:06.910 --> 00:28:13.320
a lot of stress and look, I have all of
those things now, but I've come through

00:28:13.320 --> 00:28:17.130
the fire to a certain degree where
I'm able to manage those a lot better.

00:28:17.259 --> 00:28:20.588
I've pushed myself so many ways over
the last two years, even since we've had

00:28:20.588 --> 00:28:26.020
the podcast, I've pushed myself so many
ways, not just physically, but mentally

00:28:26.020 --> 00:28:30.300
and both at the same time that I feel
like I can handle so much more too.

00:28:30.715 --> 00:28:37.874
So that's made me a better human and more
relaxed and more centered, like you said.

00:28:38.024 --> 00:28:41.825
And, um, and just, uh, just
more pleasant to be around that

00:28:42.335 --> 00:28:42.774
Travis Bader: honestly.

00:28:43.455 --> 00:28:49.274
How have you found your passion
and your drive has had an effect

00:28:49.355 --> 00:28:52.095
on your family and your friends?

00:28:53.814 --> 00:28:54.374
Sachin Latti: Um.

00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:57.180
I, I think positively, I think so.

00:28:57.180 --> 00:28:59.850
Cause I mean, for one, like I was
in a bad spot a few years ago.

00:28:59.950 --> 00:29:02.980
So, so friends and family are, you
know, probably a little concerned

00:29:02.980 --> 00:29:04.510
with my mental state at that time.

00:29:05.710 --> 00:29:09.179
So for them to see where I'm
at now, I'm like, I don't know,

00:29:09.179 --> 00:29:10.280
I haven't really asked them.

00:29:10.670 --> 00:29:13.899
Um, but I suspect that they're
very pleased with some of the

00:29:13.900 --> 00:29:16.120
outcomes that have happened
over the last couple of years.

00:29:17.230 --> 00:29:21.560
Um, for me, I'm, I know how
I interact with my daughter.

00:29:21.930 --> 00:29:25.890
And that is phenomenally
better than it was before.

00:29:26.260 --> 00:29:26.640
Awesome.

00:29:26.680 --> 00:29:31.379
And my daughter is so much, well,
my relationship with my daughter is

00:29:31.380 --> 00:29:33.239
so much better than it was before.

00:29:33.840 --> 00:29:39.360
So, you know, through that,
then, you know, my ex issues

00:29:39.360 --> 00:29:40.729
that may have been there before.

00:29:41.085 --> 00:29:45.155
May aren't as there as much because
my daughter is flourishing because

00:29:45.155 --> 00:29:49.375
of the person that I'm becoming so
she's, you know, my relationship with

00:29:49.375 --> 00:29:54.365
my daughter is all I can control in
terms of the other aspects and, and.

00:29:54.875 --> 00:29:58.445
So what was causing me a lot of
tension was some of that, you know,

00:29:58.445 --> 00:30:01.945
my ex and various other things that
would happen through that process.

00:30:01.945 --> 00:30:04.155
And really I had to own a lot of that too.

00:30:04.205 --> 00:30:08.705
So it was a lot of ownership on my part
to figure out why am I having difficulties

00:30:08.705 --> 00:30:10.505
in these different types of relationships?

00:30:10.965 --> 00:30:13.945
And I had to focus on what I wasn't
doing and I wasn't being the best

00:30:13.945 --> 00:30:15.145
father I could be at the time.

00:30:15.875 --> 00:30:17.705
So for me, I had to understand that.

00:30:17.735 --> 00:30:21.445
And now that I can reflect back
on that, and then I can say that

00:30:21.455 --> 00:30:23.255
with honesty, yeah, I wasn't doing.

00:30:23.505 --> 00:30:27.785
The right things at the time,
you know, it wasn't, um, the best

00:30:27.785 --> 00:30:28.995
father I could be at that time.

00:30:29.145 --> 00:30:33.195
And now I'm still not the best father, but
I'm doing my best and I'm a lot better.

00:30:33.245 --> 00:30:34.915
And I'm going to continue
moving in that direction.

00:30:34.915 --> 00:30:37.725
So to answer your question, I
think the people around me who've

00:30:37.735 --> 00:30:41.095
witnessed me and who are around me on
a regular basis, they're, I suspect

00:30:41.095 --> 00:30:42.095
they're probably pretty pleased.

00:30:43.445 --> 00:30:44.575
Travis Bader: Not the
best father right now.

00:30:44.575 --> 00:30:48.475
You say, you know, my kids, as
most kids will say, dad, you're

00:30:48.475 --> 00:30:50.005
the best dad in the world, right?

00:30:50.625 --> 00:30:51.435
I say, well.

00:30:51.885 --> 00:30:53.455
I'm trying, I'm working on it.

00:30:54.235 --> 00:30:57.735
Might not be the best right now, but
I'm working towards being the best.

00:30:59.215 --> 00:31:01.535
A couple of years ago,
you're in a dark place.

00:31:01.925 --> 00:31:05.015
Do you find you still
encounter those demons?

00:31:06.795 --> 00:31:07.975
Sachin Latti: I think everyone does.

00:31:09.005 --> 00:31:13.675
It's how we manage them now and how
do we remain positive and how do

00:31:13.675 --> 00:31:15.985
we move, continue moving forward?

00:31:16.065 --> 00:31:19.365
That's kind of all my focus
now is we all have problems.

00:31:19.365 --> 00:31:22.580
And before I would suspect
that, well, Before I had a bit

00:31:22.580 --> 00:31:23.910
more of a victim mentality.

00:31:23.910 --> 00:31:27.200
Oh man, this, me, this, that,
I got screwed over or this

00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:28.620
happened to me or whatever.

00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:34.800
But, um, since I've taken a lot more
control over how I respond to things,

00:31:34.860 --> 00:31:38.530
I think, yeah, it's a lot different.

00:31:38.700 --> 00:31:41.420
It just absolutely is a lot
different in how I manage it.

00:31:41.660 --> 00:31:42.550
How are you managing?

00:31:43.270 --> 00:31:44.370
I'm good, man.

00:31:44.380 --> 00:31:49.800
Like, uh, like in terms of man, and a
lot of how I manage things now is based

00:31:49.800 --> 00:31:53.760
upon hard effort and achieving things
over the last couple of years, because

00:31:53.770 --> 00:31:55.710
that's raised some built belief in me.

00:31:56.240 --> 00:32:00.000
So one of my fundamental issues a few
years ago was a sense of disillusionment,

00:32:00.430 --> 00:32:06.930
sense of worthlessness, sense of feeling
like a loser, all things that I suspect.

00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:08.910
A lot of people feel sure.

00:32:09.170 --> 00:32:14.840
And so I felt, and so I don't, I
didn't realize this, but I kind of

00:32:14.840 --> 00:32:17.860
reflect back now and see what I've
done over the last couple of years.

00:32:17.860 --> 00:32:22.660
And that's made me feel good about myself
and, and not in an, in an egotistical

00:32:22.660 --> 00:32:25.930
way, just, it's just like, wow, man, I
did something I never thought I could do.

00:32:26.690 --> 00:32:28.360
And that makes me feel positive.

00:32:28.900 --> 00:32:34.950
So if I encounter something that's super
challenging mentally, I can just reflect

00:32:34.970 --> 00:32:37.450
back on the things I've already overcome.

00:32:37.905 --> 00:32:42.235
And the things that I've already overcome
or, or even things that I've put in

00:32:42.235 --> 00:32:46.265
front of me that were super challenging
and I still overcome those things, that

00:32:46.265 --> 00:32:52.595
gives me a level of confidence and, um, a
level of confidence that I can accomplish

00:32:52.635 --> 00:32:56.125
and achieve just about anything in a
positive way, given enough time and

00:32:56.135 --> 00:32:56.445
Travis Bader: effort.

00:32:56.860 --> 00:33:00.380
I'd say that's probably one of
the bigger impacts, just as an

00:33:00.380 --> 00:33:04.660
outsider looking in that you've had
on your family and your friends is

00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:07.730
in showing them that path forward.

00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:09.210
You know, there's a book by Dr.

00:33:09.220 --> 00:33:09.670
Seuss.

00:33:10.110 --> 00:33:12.110
I could probably recite it word for word.

00:33:12.110 --> 00:33:13.940
I've read it so many times to my kids.

00:33:14.290 --> 00:33:17.180
But it was called, I had trouble
in getting to Solace a Loo, it was

00:33:17.190 --> 00:33:21.870
about a little character who had
never had troubles and, um, all of

00:33:21.870 --> 00:33:23.380
a sudden starts having troubles.

00:33:23.380 --> 00:33:26.530
And a guy comes up on his
one wheeler wobble and says,

00:33:26.820 --> 00:33:28.800
Hey, come on to Solace a Loo.

00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.020
They have no more, he'll
have no more troubles.

00:33:31.020 --> 00:33:32.250
Well, at least for a few, right?

00:33:32.770 --> 00:33:37.290
And it goes on this long journey and keeps
encountering trouble after trouble, after

00:33:37.290 --> 00:33:42.150
trouble and gets to Solacelew and they
can't get the key to work in the inside.

00:33:42.150 --> 00:33:45.000
And the guy says, Oh, I'm off to another
place where they have no troubles at all.

00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:49.150
And the main characters stops and
thinks, and his little quote at

00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:51.510
the end was, he decides not to go.

00:33:51.770 --> 00:33:54.150
He says, I know there are
troubles of more than one kind.

00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:57.450
Some come from ahead, some come from
behind, but I've got a big stick.

00:33:57.450 --> 00:34:00.190
I'm already, you see, my troubles
are going to have troubles with me.

00:34:00.700 --> 00:34:01.500
And essentially.

00:34:01.945 --> 00:34:03.845
He's learned through this process.

00:34:03.855 --> 00:34:10.355
He's faced adversity and he says, I know
I'm always going to have troubles anyways.

00:34:10.385 --> 00:34:14.915
Um, I think that is probably the biggest
thing that you're imparting on those

00:34:14.925 --> 00:34:19.925
around you, because you've been very vocal
about sharing your journey, where you

00:34:19.925 --> 00:34:22.995
were, how difficult things had gotten.

00:34:23.415 --> 00:34:24.225
And where are you are now?

00:34:24.225 --> 00:34:28.195
And I find that really interesting
that, that one question, some

00:34:28.195 --> 00:34:29.855
people say, no, everything's great.

00:34:31.125 --> 00:34:32.375
No more troubles at all.

00:34:32.475 --> 00:34:34.715
No, we all have troubles.

00:34:34.855 --> 00:34:38.435
I'm still dealing with troubles,
but I've got better tools.

00:34:38.435 --> 00:34:39.475
I got that big stick.

00:34:39.915 --> 00:34:42.895
Sachin Latti: Well, I think, I
think it's been invaluable for me.

00:34:43.845 --> 00:34:46.535
So like we were talking about
Nathan, uh, the host of the

00:34:46.535 --> 00:34:48.355
1033 podcast, fantastic guy.

00:34:48.405 --> 00:34:48.705
Right.

00:34:48.775 --> 00:34:53.945
And, um, I was on his podcast, probably
one of the first ones I had done maybe

00:34:53.945 --> 00:35:00.135
two years ago, and you could clearly
hear, um, my mental state in that, in

00:35:00.135 --> 00:35:05.035
that podcast, like how negative I was, or
even just how, how hurt or damaged I was.

00:35:05.165 --> 00:35:06.325
It was very emotional for me.

00:35:06.915 --> 00:35:11.435
And anyway, so having said
that to your point about, um.

00:35:11.895 --> 00:35:16.275
You know, people could track where,
how I've been, you know, progressing

00:35:16.395 --> 00:35:19.855
by even going on various different
podcasters, social media, things that

00:35:19.855 --> 00:35:23.435
I've been doing over the last couple
of years, you could see it, you can

00:35:23.435 --> 00:35:29.345
see the, the, um, the growth and the
development mentally and physically.

00:35:29.725 --> 00:35:33.335
So I think, you know, now that I'm
reflecting back on it, man, that's pretty.

00:35:33.695 --> 00:35:37.895
Pretty, man, I'm pretty proud of
that, to be honest, that I'm able

00:35:37.895 --> 00:35:43.285
to, you know, that I have come to
a certain point where I'm able to

00:35:43.295 --> 00:35:46.415
still, I'm not without difficulties.

00:35:46.415 --> 00:35:47.825
There's tons of them still presented.

00:35:48.255 --> 00:35:50.215
And sometimes I make them happen too.

00:35:50.335 --> 00:35:56.275
I create them now so that I can go
through the uncomfortable moments,

00:35:56.435 --> 00:35:58.365
even despite how difficult they may be.

00:35:58.865 --> 00:36:02.665
I know now based on what I've already
accomplished, I think I can tackle

00:36:02.665 --> 00:36:05.055
any problem given enough time.

00:36:05.055 --> 00:36:08.435
So now I'm creating certain, I don't
want to say creating problems, but maybe

00:36:08.435 --> 00:36:11.725
creating an obstacle so that I can develop
and get better through that process.

00:36:12.105 --> 00:36:13.545
Travis Bader: You're not
shying away from the challenge.

00:36:14.865 --> 00:36:22.035
Nathan's an incredibly empathetic fellow
and he's, uh, I really admire how, how

00:36:22.065 --> 00:36:27.235
centered he is and how in tune he is
with his, um, his feelings, his emotions.

00:36:27.235 --> 00:36:29.525
And like, he's put a lot of work into it.

00:36:30.025 --> 00:36:35.075
And I remember going back on those
podcasts prior to our first podcast that

00:36:35.075 --> 00:36:39.405
we did when I was gathering information,
I was looking at all the different sources

00:36:39.405 --> 00:36:41.125
of places where you'd been speaking.

00:36:42.200 --> 00:36:47.280
And there was that negative aspect
that, uh, that victim mentality.

00:36:47.870 --> 00:36:49.620
How do you deal with that?

00:36:49.700 --> 00:36:53.390
How are you, because that's,
we're a negatively biased species.

00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:56.810
There's always going to
be that aspect to it.

00:36:56.820 --> 00:37:00.990
We don't want to just whitewash
over and pretend like we're not.

00:37:01.340 --> 00:37:02.360
How do you deal with that?

00:37:03.170 --> 00:37:05.400
Sachin Latti: I had to
learn, I had to learn, man.

00:37:05.570 --> 00:37:10.390
And, um, so for me, I know how I
am in the sense of how I learn,

00:37:11.110 --> 00:37:13.810
basically, I kind of have a rough
idea of how I learned and how I tackle

00:37:13.810 --> 00:37:15.170
things and how I understand things.

00:37:16.110 --> 00:37:21.960
And for me, as soon as I find people that
I kind of want to be like, I just attach.

00:37:22.580 --> 00:37:26.130
And try to learn, because I, I
think with a certain degree, like,

00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:29.900
like I've had a lot of experience
in, in, in law enforcement.

00:37:29.900 --> 00:37:34.710
So I, I, I'm decent at assessing people in
a short period of time and understanding,

00:37:35.450 --> 00:37:39.620
you know, maybe benefits that I, I could
learn from and things of that nature.

00:37:39.620 --> 00:37:42.900
So for me, I started, I
didn't know what I was doing.

00:37:42.950 --> 00:37:46.170
I had no clue how to kind of
correct certain things, but I

00:37:46.220 --> 00:37:47.750
could tell that some people did.

00:37:48.750 --> 00:37:50.680
And, um, I just kind of.

00:37:51.370 --> 00:37:54.400
Listened and paid
attention to those people.

00:37:54.400 --> 00:37:58.810
And, and Sean Taylor and Seb Lovall, I
kind of really focused on those two guys

00:37:59.510 --> 00:38:06.180
because I saw, um, attributes that are
respected in both of them, very different

00:38:06.180 --> 00:38:10.450
individuals, but I kind of wanted to take
both of them and combine them together

00:38:10.450 --> 00:38:11.990
and try to apply them for myself.

00:38:12.630 --> 00:38:14.430
And that's essentially what I've
been doing over the last couple

00:38:14.430 --> 00:38:18.370
of years to remove both the victim
mentality and the fear of death.

00:38:19.510 --> 00:38:23.200
And I've been focused on those two
things so that I can continue moving

00:38:23.200 --> 00:38:25.560
forward in a way that I'm not scared.

00:38:26.130 --> 00:38:30.450
And so I had a chat with Seb some
time ago and, and he's, he said this

00:38:30.460 --> 00:38:34.120
probably on various other podcasts and
whatnot, but he's, one of the things

00:38:34.120 --> 00:38:36.820
he mentioned to me is like, man, if you
can remove the victim mentality and the

00:38:36.820 --> 00:38:38.420
fear of death, you're already winning.

00:38:39.375 --> 00:38:42.415
So when I heard him say that, I, I just
tried to understand what that meant.

00:38:42.525 --> 00:38:46.405
And then, um, and it just slowly
just started listening to what they

00:38:46.405 --> 00:38:51.015
would say and how I remove that
victim mentality is, is because

00:38:51.015 --> 00:38:52.855
everyone's got a screwed up life.

00:38:53.525 --> 00:38:53.975
Totally.

00:38:54.045 --> 00:38:54.625
Everyone's had

00:38:54.625 --> 00:38:54.985
Travis Bader: problems.

00:38:55.375 --> 00:38:59.835
That Norman Rockwell idea of a
perfect family and perfect life.

00:39:00.040 --> 00:39:00.900
It's doesn't exist.

00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:01.430
It doesn't,

00:39:01.430 --> 00:39:01.610
Sachin Latti: man.

00:39:01.610 --> 00:39:06.680
So as soon as I was, uh, woke up to
the fact that I'm not unique, I'm not

00:39:06.680 --> 00:39:10.940
special at all, that there are people
out there who've had it tougher.

00:39:11.060 --> 00:39:16.000
And, um, and you know, and I haven't had
it that tough compared to a lot of people.

00:39:16.010 --> 00:39:18.120
So it put things in perspective as well.

00:39:18.140 --> 00:39:21.210
So as soon as I put things in
perspective and then I started working

00:39:21.220 --> 00:39:24.860
and then I started building belief in
myself, then things started really.

00:39:25.035 --> 00:39:28.085
Moving in a, in a direction
that was positive, but I

00:39:28.115 --> 00:39:31.355
think you have to put in work.

00:39:31.425 --> 00:39:33.045
Otherwise things don't happen.

00:39:33.465 --> 00:39:35.695
Travis Bader: Momentum
mori, remember we die.

00:39:36.605 --> 00:39:38.105
Tell me about this fear of death thing.

00:39:38.405 --> 00:39:41.750
Sachin Latti: So for me, I think
I, I, I, I don't think I've

00:39:41.750 --> 00:39:42.770
had much of a fear of death.

00:39:42.770 --> 00:39:44.960
So I've been good on that part, right.

00:39:45.330 --> 00:39:49.750
But I think the fear of death, I think,
look, you don't want to die, but you

00:39:49.750 --> 00:39:51.950
should also shouldn't be scared to live.

00:39:52.810 --> 00:39:53.140
Right.

00:39:53.190 --> 00:39:56.760
And I think I was scared to
live for a period of life where

00:39:56.760 --> 00:39:58.030
I didn't want to do things.

00:39:58.030 --> 00:39:58.890
I wanted to stay safe.

00:39:58.890 --> 00:40:02.390
I wanted to do my job and do this, that,
and the other and be normal and whatever.

00:40:03.230 --> 00:40:06.690
But I think as soon as I really tackled
that piece, I was like, well, yeah.

00:40:07.040 --> 00:40:10.490
And I think probably, you know,
the pandemic kind of helped fast

00:40:10.490 --> 00:40:13.610
forward that for me, because I
didn't want to be locked in my house.

00:40:13.620 --> 00:40:16.320
I was like, I'm not, look, if I
die, I die then, man, I don't care.

00:40:16.420 --> 00:40:17.950
I don't want to be isolated forever.

00:40:18.360 --> 00:40:21.650
I want to go outside and experience
things and meet people and live.

00:40:22.200 --> 00:40:26.170
So I think that really solidified for me,
the, Oh man, I'm not scared to die, man.

00:40:26.170 --> 00:40:27.080
Let's live.

00:40:27.260 --> 00:40:31.390
And so now with that sort of way of
thinking, I can create for myself.

00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.780
Challenges that are astronomical
that maybe I never would have

00:40:35.780 --> 00:40:39.330
thought of before, because
there's so crazy out there for me.

00:40:40.010 --> 00:40:43.220
And so, yeah, that's kind of
how I explain that fear of

00:40:43.390 --> 00:40:43.690
Travis Bader: death.

00:40:44.170 --> 00:40:47.510
I remember as a, uh, a kid
watching Terminator two and seeing

00:40:47.510 --> 00:40:49.490
the, uh, Arnold Schwarzenegger.

00:40:49.900 --> 00:40:53.020
Of course it's a stunt double and very
clearly a stunt double as he takes a

00:40:53.030 --> 00:40:57.470
bike and jumps off the ledge and he's
driving down the T 1000 or whatever it is.

00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:58.740
He's got the semi truck behind him.

00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.260
I was like, imagine
what a person could do.

00:41:02.550 --> 00:41:06.700
If they just eliminated the fear
of dying, they'd probably be

00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:08.470
like this Terminator guy, right?

00:41:08.500 --> 00:41:09.010
A hundred percent.

00:41:09.490 --> 00:41:11.050
Driving down, doing their thing.

00:41:11.540 --> 00:41:16.470
And I tried to incorporate that into
my own life, possibly in a negative

00:41:16.470 --> 00:41:21.660
way in younger years, but that could
lead to, thankfully, uh, not too

00:41:21.660 --> 00:41:23.320
many injuries and I'm still alive.

00:41:24.080 --> 00:41:27.420
Um, there is that balance.

00:41:28.175 --> 00:41:31.215
That people need to be able to find,
because, you know, I've talked to

00:41:31.215 --> 00:41:33.985
other people and they say, you know,
it wasn't that I wanted to die.

00:41:34.015 --> 00:41:36.465
It was just that I was
apathetic about living.

00:41:36.555 --> 00:41:36.855
Right.

00:41:36.855 --> 00:41:38.585
And I just, I didn't care.

00:41:39.095 --> 00:41:46.525
Um, you're pushing yourself now in a way
that challenges yourself on a daily basis.

00:41:47.405 --> 00:41:48.775
What happens if you get injured?

00:41:48.875 --> 00:41:52.195
What happens if you don't
have that ability to be able

00:41:52.195 --> 00:41:53.445
to push yourself further?

00:41:54.145 --> 00:41:55.975
Or is that going to have a very.

00:41:56.185 --> 00:41:58.735
Difficult mental effect on you.

00:41:59.425 --> 00:42:03.065
I mean, if you, if that piece of the
puzzle, if you're living for these

00:42:03.075 --> 00:42:10.275
new challenges and these pushing and
pushing, um, would you be content if

00:42:10.275 --> 00:42:14.465
you're forced into a position where you
could no longer push like you are now?

00:42:14.555 --> 00:42:15.465
Sachin Latti: That's a good question.

00:42:15.465 --> 00:42:17.485
I think, look, there's
always things that happen.

00:42:17.985 --> 00:42:19.625
And things can happen to anyone.

00:42:20.095 --> 00:42:23.055
I don't think about it, but
I have thought about it.

00:42:24.565 --> 00:42:28.785
And the reality is this man, you
know, if, let's say if, uh, there's a

00:42:28.875 --> 00:42:31.115
mobility issue for me and I can't run.

00:42:31.585 --> 00:42:31.975
Cool.

00:42:32.005 --> 00:42:33.075
I'll figure something else out.

00:42:33.645 --> 00:42:34.515
I'll do something else.

00:42:34.790 --> 00:42:37.140
Like I didn't like running to begin with.

00:42:37.860 --> 00:42:41.750
So it started in a, in a
way that, uh, with a, with a

00:42:41.780 --> 00:42:43.380
activity that I hated anyway.

00:42:43.980 --> 00:42:49.240
So, um, for me, it's more
the fact of trying to find

00:42:49.240 --> 00:42:51.180
something to challenge myself.

00:42:51.630 --> 00:42:53.800
Like, look, if you, if
you, you got Mark Orman.

00:42:54.255 --> 00:42:57.405
He was, uh, uh, um, on social
media, pretty big platform.

00:42:57.405 --> 00:42:58.915
I think he's SAS retired.

00:42:58.925 --> 00:43:01.245
He's a double, triple amputees.

00:43:01.255 --> 00:43:01.835
Yes, I know Mark.

00:43:01.835 --> 00:43:02.335
Yeah, of course.

00:43:02.335 --> 00:43:02.705
Yes.

00:43:02.705 --> 00:43:03.005
Yeah.

00:43:03.035 --> 00:43:06.225
So, uh, he does jujitsu and all
kinds of other things and he's

00:43:06.235 --> 00:43:09.105
got, he doesn't have, he's missing
his legs and one left one arm.

00:43:09.155 --> 00:43:11.925
Travis Bader: And he's riding these
pedal, these, uh, arm pedal bikes.

00:43:11.925 --> 00:43:12.875
And so, you

00:43:12.875 --> 00:43:15.075
Sachin Latti: know, I mean, I think
there's always a way to push yourself.

00:43:15.445 --> 00:43:17.495
And I, I think I'd be that guy.

00:43:17.615 --> 00:43:20.375
I mean, I know I'm that guy
who'd find a way to do something.

00:43:21.185 --> 00:43:23.485
Um, so I'm not worried about that.

00:43:23.585 --> 00:43:28.675
Um, you know, I, I, I believe
there's always a way to

00:43:28.675 --> 00:43:31.005
find a way to push oneself.

00:43:31.005 --> 00:43:34.015
Like, don't get me wrong, if something
like that were to happen to me, obviously

00:43:34.015 --> 00:43:37.555
it would affect me emotionally and I
wouldn't be happy with it, but I would

00:43:37.565 --> 00:43:40.295
have a plan in place to make sure
that I can keep getting up and keep

00:43:40.305 --> 00:43:41.725
moving forward because of my purpose.

00:43:42.395 --> 00:43:42.565
If

00:43:42.565 --> 00:43:42.915
Travis Bader: we've.

00:43:43.680 --> 00:43:48.109
If we looked at the, before the
run, let's look at the 22 and 22.

00:43:48.110 --> 00:43:50.190
Can you talk me through that process?

00:43:50.390 --> 00:43:51.550
What were the highs?

00:43:51.870 --> 00:43:52.990
What were the lows?

00:43:53.100 --> 00:43:53.980
How'd you deal with them?

00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:54.690
Sachin Latti: Okay.

00:43:56.530 --> 00:44:02.930
It's so, as you can imagine, um, 22
marathons is a, was a big undertaking

00:44:02.930 --> 00:44:07.840
for me, both emotionally, physically,
mentally, logistically, all the

00:44:07.850 --> 00:44:09.130
things that you can kind of think of.

00:44:09.140 --> 00:44:10.570
Cause essentially I planned.

00:44:10.885 --> 00:44:15.655
With support of some people, but all of
it was created and planned out on my own.

00:44:15.815 --> 00:44:16.115
Right.

00:44:16.585 --> 00:44:25.465
And so to begin with, or during the, so we
had challenges right from day one, right.

00:44:25.515 --> 00:44:32.225
So in terms of, um, and I was,
the challenges were, were both

00:44:32.335 --> 00:44:36.145
physical, mental, um, environmental.

00:44:36.710 --> 00:44:37.020
Right.

00:44:37.060 --> 00:44:38.130
A lot of things were happening.

00:44:38.130 --> 00:44:43.660
So like the first day, uh, in
Revelstoke, it was hot, it was hot, man.

00:44:44.080 --> 00:44:48.910
And I hadn't ran in that heat
before, uh, that heat I've ran

00:44:48.910 --> 00:44:50.670
in as much heat as can get here.

00:44:51.270 --> 00:44:53.270
But once you started going in
those areas, you're looking

00:44:53.270 --> 00:44:55.660
at 35, 37, 38 degrees Celsius.

00:44:55.660 --> 00:44:55.890
Right.

00:44:55.960 --> 00:44:58.980
So for me, it was just difficult
to recreate those environments.

00:44:59.370 --> 00:45:02.890
Number one, number two, it was
also very difficult to create.

00:45:03.730 --> 00:45:10.160
Um, forest fires and smoke for me to run
through and in Revelstoke, there were,

00:45:10.170 --> 00:45:13.995
you know, um, You know, weather network
would put out environmental warnings.

00:45:13.995 --> 00:45:15.915
No one should go outside for any activity.

00:45:15.915 --> 00:45:17.555
And I'm out there running
a marathon, right.

00:45:18.095 --> 00:45:18.835
So things like that.

00:45:18.835 --> 00:45:19.995
So there were little things like that.

00:45:20.025 --> 00:45:23.595
And then, um, you know, what's Mike
Tyson say, everyone's got a plan.

00:45:23.595 --> 00:45:24.645
They'll, they get punched in the face.

00:45:24.655 --> 00:45:24.985
Right.

00:45:25.015 --> 00:45:27.685
So I had plans, but I got
punched in the face in day one.

00:45:28.375 --> 00:45:33.085
So after day one, you know, I'm going
out hot, you know, I'm going up fast.

00:45:33.085 --> 00:45:34.305
I'm like, oh, I'm excited.

00:45:34.305 --> 00:45:35.025
I'm feeling good.

00:45:35.715 --> 00:45:37.615
And I was wrecked by the
end of the first day.

00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:41.440
Like, so I was trying to
maintain a certain pace so that

00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:43.170
I can manage all of the days.

00:45:43.590 --> 00:45:47.200
So the pace I was trying to stay within
was seven minutes to seven and a half

00:45:47.200 --> 00:45:51.320
minutes per kilometer so that I could,
so that I could be prepared for the

00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:52.770
next day and the next day and the next.

00:45:52.770 --> 00:45:55.670
And now if it was just one or two
or three days, then that changes.

00:45:55.750 --> 00:45:58.900
But this was more of a
challenge of attrition rather

00:45:58.900 --> 00:45:59.970
than a challenge of speed.

00:46:00.010 --> 00:46:00.300
Right.

00:46:00.340 --> 00:46:00.540
Right.

00:46:00.970 --> 00:46:03.110
So the first day I was.

00:46:03.860 --> 00:46:08.530
I had severe headaches because of the
smoke and then, um, you know, at the

00:46:08.530 --> 00:46:12.260
end of the day, I was reflecting and I
thought I had done pretty well, but I

00:46:12.270 --> 00:46:16.950
woke up in the next morning and so I,
I tracked my metrics in terms of my HRV

00:46:16.960 --> 00:46:21.410
heart rate and various other things and I
use a whoop strap to do that and the next

00:46:21.410 --> 00:46:23.940
morning I woke up, my recovery was at 2%.

00:46:24.185 --> 00:46:25.715
It was like as low as it can get.

00:46:26.245 --> 00:46:31.855
So I was like pretty wrecked, um,
from an, from a, uh, say that better.

00:46:32.195 --> 00:46:32.835
I wasn't wrecked.

00:46:32.895 --> 00:46:35.285
I could still do all the things
I needed to do, but just from a

00:46:35.285 --> 00:46:37.365
recovery perspective, I wasn't ideal.

00:46:38.275 --> 00:46:39.235
So, and then.

00:46:40.060 --> 00:46:43.290
On the second day, um, the warnings
went out further saying, okay,

00:46:43.290 --> 00:46:44.500
we, people shouldn't be running.

00:46:44.500 --> 00:46:47.130
And then I'm getting messages from
various people saying, and people

00:46:47.130 --> 00:46:49.670
that I respect would be like, Hey, you
need to reevaluate what you're doing

00:46:49.670 --> 00:46:53.039
here because you don't want to cause
any health issues, um, running in

00:46:53.040 --> 00:46:54.070
the smoke, this, that, and the other.

00:46:54.070 --> 00:46:57.390
And now I just started this thing,
I got things going through my head.

00:46:57.460 --> 00:46:58.920
I'm got a severe headache.

00:46:58.920 --> 00:46:59.950
I got all these things going on.

00:46:59.950 --> 00:47:01.180
I'm like, okay, man, what do I do here?

00:47:01.850 --> 00:47:05.990
And, uh, and then on top of that, my, my
girlfriend was with me the entire time.

00:47:05.990 --> 00:47:09.160
She was a support throughout the
entire process, which was amazing.

00:47:09.170 --> 00:47:10.960
She was the support vehicle as well.

00:47:11.460 --> 00:47:16.990
And so I had a massive support in that
regard by her and, um, but her car

00:47:16.990 --> 00:47:18.790
was having issues on after day one.

00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:20.900
So, so on day two, it wasn't starting.

00:47:21.700 --> 00:47:23.560
So now I'm like, okay, I got a headache.

00:47:23.640 --> 00:47:25.750
Um, I'm getting all these messages.

00:47:25.870 --> 00:47:29.160
I, uh, it's smoky and
the car's not working.

00:47:29.740 --> 00:47:31.400
What am I going to do now?

00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.320
So then I was like, okay, man,
let me just recalibrate here.

00:47:35.420 --> 00:47:40.090
I found a gym in Revelstoke and I going to
run, let me run outside on the second day.

00:47:40.750 --> 00:47:43.770
And after the first half, I was like,
okay, you know what, it's probably,

00:47:43.770 --> 00:47:45.580
cause I, I couldn't even breathe.

00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.030
Like I had to like, I was breathing
through my mouth because if I

00:47:49.030 --> 00:47:51.470
was breathing through my nose,
I was taking in too much smoke.

00:47:52.070 --> 00:47:54.100
So I was trying to conserve that.

00:47:54.100 --> 00:47:55.440
And then I was like,
uh, you know what, man.

00:47:55.775 --> 00:47:57.855
The goal is to get the kilometers in.

00:47:57.855 --> 00:48:02.445
So I was like, okay, I found a gym
and I did, uh, I did the marathon

00:48:02.475 --> 00:48:04.555
on one full day on the treadmill.

00:48:05.035 --> 00:48:06.205
So I ran 42.

00:48:06.335 --> 00:48:11.745
3 kilometers on a treadmill on, I think
it was day, so day two, I ran half of it

00:48:11.745 --> 00:48:16.355
on a treadmill, went inside, day three,
I did a whole thing on a treadmill.

00:48:16.935 --> 00:48:20.515
And then we ended up figuring out
the car, the car got squared away.

00:48:20.515 --> 00:48:22.855
And then day four, we moved on from, uh.

00:48:23.470 --> 00:48:26.970
Um, Revelstoke on to the next
town, but, uh, there were

00:48:26.970 --> 00:48:27.990
challenges right at the beginning.

00:48:28.810 --> 00:48:29.150
How did you

00:48:29.150 --> 00:48:30.620
Travis Bader: feel when you
jumped on that treadmill?

00:48:30.640 --> 00:48:33.960
Did you feel like this, this wasn't
how I envisioned myself doing this?

00:48:34.050 --> 00:48:35.670
Was there that kind of thought?

00:48:35.680 --> 00:48:36.470
Sachin Latti: There was
a little bit of that.

00:48:36.470 --> 00:48:38.320
There was a little bit like, oh,
people are going to chirp me.

00:48:38.330 --> 00:48:39.030
He's on a treadmill.

00:48:39.030 --> 00:48:40.420
He's not outside this,
that, and the other.

00:48:40.420 --> 00:48:43.630
And I just thought, look, man, I got to.

00:48:43.980 --> 00:48:45.370
Get the kilometers done.

00:48:45.450 --> 00:48:49.040
So I just framed it differently after,
um, I know I didn't want to stay

00:48:49.040 --> 00:48:52.530
inside too much because I, I just,
that wasn't what I wanted to do.

00:48:52.530 --> 00:48:54.670
I wanted to run outside at the very least.

00:48:54.680 --> 00:48:54.960
Right.

00:48:55.480 --> 00:49:00.230
So, you know, on that one day I stayed
on the treadmill, it cleared up just

00:49:00.230 --> 00:49:01.650
a little bit more on the next day.

00:49:01.650 --> 00:49:05.420
So then I was able to run outside
and I stayed in Revelstoke and ran.

00:49:05.625 --> 00:49:07.225
42 kilometers within the entire town.

00:49:07.225 --> 00:49:09.285
So anywhere you want to go in Revelstoke,
I know where to take you, man.

00:49:09.325 --> 00:49:09.905
I know everything.

00:49:10.105 --> 00:49:11.935
I know, I know everywhere to go.

00:49:12.005 --> 00:49:12.145
All

00:49:12.145 --> 00:49:12.775
Travis Bader: the back alleys.

00:49:13.095 --> 00:49:13.575
Everything.

00:49:13.775 --> 00:49:14.105
But,

00:49:14.105 --> 00:49:17.385
Sachin Latti: uh, but you know,
I initially was, it did bug

00:49:17.385 --> 00:49:18.125
me, but then, you know what?

00:49:18.125 --> 00:49:21.555
I was like, man, whatever, I'm still
getting it in and I'm still going to

00:49:21.555 --> 00:49:23.885
do what's required and we're still
going to raise the money because the

00:49:23.885 --> 00:49:26.845
ultimate goal is to run the kilometers,
raise awareness and raise funds.

00:49:27.155 --> 00:49:27.845
Travis Bader: Do people chirp

00:49:27.845 --> 00:49:27.985
Sachin Latti: you?

00:49:29.335 --> 00:49:30.045
Sean Taylor,

00:49:34.785 --> 00:49:35.175
Travis Bader: but, but

00:49:35.175 --> 00:49:36.055
Sachin Latti: it's a good chirp, right?

00:49:36.055 --> 00:49:36.345
For me,

00:49:36.495 --> 00:49:37.745
Travis Bader: it's coming
from a place of love.

00:49:37.755 --> 00:49:38.075
Yeah.

00:49:38.075 --> 00:49:38.595
So for me,

00:49:38.595 --> 00:49:40.255
Sachin Latti: when I, when I
get certain trips from certain

00:49:40.255 --> 00:49:41.505
people, I pay attention to them.

00:49:41.865 --> 00:49:44.775
When I get certain shirts from some other
people, I don't pay attention to them.

00:49:45.420 --> 00:49:49.960
Travis Bader: So I was just listening to
a podcast, uh, past podcast guests on the

00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:54.880
Silvercore podcast, John Sinai, love that
guy, amazing fellow, looking forward to

00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:56.500
when we can actually meet face to face.

00:49:56.500 --> 00:50:00.270
But, um, uh, he was talking
about a quote and says, don't

00:50:00.270 --> 00:50:01.570
pay attention to the critics.

00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:03.830
Don't pay attention to the critics.

00:50:04.290 --> 00:50:05.200
Don't even ignore them.

00:50:05.640 --> 00:50:05.700
Meaning.

00:50:05.860 --> 00:50:06.470
Mm hmm.

00:50:08.615 --> 00:50:11.775
Meaning that it doesn't even rise
to the dignity of a response.

00:50:11.775 --> 00:50:13.795
You're not, you're not
actively ignoring them.

00:50:13.815 --> 00:50:15.215
It's just, it's not even there.

00:50:15.225 --> 00:50:18.525
You're just so far into your
own process and your own thing

00:50:18.525 --> 00:50:19.905
that it doesn't even kind of.

00:50:20.215 --> 00:50:20.465
I mean,

00:50:20.675 --> 00:50:24.185
Sachin Latti: it, and to be honest, it,
it does, it didn't for me in those things

00:50:24.185 --> 00:50:26.435
didn't really, um, enter in because.

00:50:26.845 --> 00:50:29.265
Then I started thinking, okay, someone's
going to trip me who doesn't really know

00:50:29.265 --> 00:50:32.625
me and who doesn't know what I'm doing
and who doesn't know what I've already,

00:50:32.915 --> 00:50:36.645
um, gone through to come to the point
of running 22 or at least attempting the

00:50:36.645 --> 00:50:38.325
fact of running 22 marathons in a row.

00:50:38.905 --> 00:50:40.585
Um, they, they, they.

00:50:40.920 --> 00:50:45.330
I have zero concept as to
what's actually happening.

00:50:45.430 --> 00:50:48.520
And so I can't really even take
that information cause they have

00:50:48.520 --> 00:50:49.580
no clue of what's happening.

00:50:49.830 --> 00:50:52.460
Travis Bader: And people in front,
don't chirp the people behind them.

00:50:52.980 --> 00:50:55.190
The people behind will
chirp up front, right?

00:50:55.370 --> 00:50:57.290
And that's something to always
kind of keep in the mind.

00:50:57.300 --> 00:50:59.040
The people up front,
they're doing their thing.

00:50:59.050 --> 00:50:59.260
Yeah.

00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.280
They'll, they'll show back encouragement.

00:51:01.340 --> 00:51:01.620
Yeah.

00:51:02.780 --> 00:51:08.150
The people behind are the ones who will
try and chirp back, hold the person back.

00:51:08.150 --> 00:51:08.330
Well, and you

00:51:08.330 --> 00:51:09.110
Sachin Latti: know, that's cool man.

00:51:09.110 --> 00:51:10.010
They can chirp from behind.

00:51:10.010 --> 00:51:10.790
I'll turn this.

00:51:10.790 --> 00:51:11.120
That's right.

00:51:11.120 --> 00:51:12.050
I'll turn back this way and I'll

00:51:12.050 --> 00:51:12.920
Travis Bader: say, pick up the pace.

00:51:12.950 --> 00:51:13.430
That's right.

00:51:13.610 --> 00:51:13.940
Come on.

00:51:13.945 --> 00:51:14.540
You can do it too.

00:51:14.600 --> 00:51:15.140
Yeah, come on up here.

00:51:15.200 --> 00:51:15.440
Because

00:51:15.890 --> 00:51:17.300
Sachin Latti: that's all I'm saying, man.

00:51:17.300 --> 00:51:17.390
Yeah.

00:51:17.420 --> 00:51:20.570
Like to be honest, I'm like,
bro, if I could do this.

00:51:20.575 --> 00:51:20.670
Mm-hmm.

00:51:21.860 --> 00:51:23.930
, anyone can do anything.

00:51:24.660 --> 00:51:27.660
If you're given enough time and
effort, look, yes, it's running and

00:51:27.660 --> 00:51:31.820
maybe I'm, um, um, somewhat of an
athlete and I've kind of, you know,

00:51:31.830 --> 00:51:33.120
these are the things I like to do.

00:51:33.150 --> 00:51:37.620
So it's, you know, it's a thing,
but it's just the thing, anyone

00:51:37.620 --> 00:51:41.680
can look at a thing that they love
to do and go all in and crush it.

00:51:41.740 --> 00:51:44.930
Like it's, it's, and it's not,
I'm, I'm not saying anything

00:51:44.930 --> 00:51:45.860
that people don't know.

00:51:45.930 --> 00:51:48.020
I'm just saying something in real time.

00:51:48.020 --> 00:51:51.120
So people can really understand I'm you.

00:51:51.505 --> 00:51:55.345
I just finished doing something and
it just took me a year of training,

00:51:55.375 --> 00:52:00.345
or let's say three years of effort to
create a runner, but anyone can do that.

00:52:01.750 --> 00:52:03.370
Travis Bader: And that applies
in all aspects of life.

00:52:03.420 --> 00:52:06.370
Like I remember like right now,
we've got Adobe edition running.

00:52:06.520 --> 00:52:08.370
I will edit this on Adobe premiere.

00:52:08.370 --> 00:52:10.720
I'll make the graphic on Adobe Photoshop.

00:52:10.820 --> 00:52:12.500
I did stuff in after effects.

00:52:12.790 --> 00:52:13.480
I looked at this stuff.

00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:16.200
I'm like, this is a completely
different language a few years ago.

00:52:16.270 --> 00:52:17.170
I can't do this.

00:52:17.200 --> 00:52:18.050
This is for other people.

00:52:18.050 --> 00:52:20.540
This is for smart people who
are graphically inclined,

00:52:20.540 --> 00:52:21.420
you know how to do this.

00:52:21.880 --> 00:52:23.290
And one day something clicked.

00:52:23.340 --> 00:52:24.470
I'm like, you know what?

00:52:24.750 --> 00:52:26.020
I'm just going to figure this out.

00:52:26.500 --> 00:52:28.550
I just sat down and it's been a long slog.

00:52:28.850 --> 00:52:33.140
But I've got the ability to, to run
these things, something that I thought

00:52:33.300 --> 00:52:34.620
was completely out of my realm.

00:52:34.670 --> 00:52:37.750
And it makes me start
questioning what other things

00:52:37.760 --> 00:52:38.880
do I think are out of my realm?

00:52:39.190 --> 00:52:40.300
Learning new languages?

00:52:41.080 --> 00:52:42.980
No, you just, you plug away, you do it.

00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:45.910
Um, physical goals.

00:52:46.475 --> 00:52:50.545
Ah, and then that's the physical side
has always been something that I've never

00:52:50.545 --> 00:52:52.855
had an issue with I'll injure myself.

00:52:52.875 --> 00:52:55.245
I'll have difficulties, but
from the mental tenacity and

00:52:55.245 --> 00:52:58.395
just dogged stubbornness side,
I always know I'll get there.

00:52:58.435 --> 00:52:59.725
I might not be the fastest.

00:52:59.955 --> 00:53:02.365
I might not be in the front
of the line, but I know I can

00:53:02.375 --> 00:53:03.915
do it because I won't give up.

00:53:04.495 --> 00:53:04.715
But

00:53:05.005 --> 00:53:06.345
Sachin Latti: I mean, that's
exactly the point, right?

00:53:06.385 --> 00:53:09.555
At the end of the day, it's just a
matter of just consistency of effort.

00:53:09.745 --> 00:53:12.725
Keep doing the thing over and over
and over again, and then you'll,

00:53:13.335 --> 00:53:14.955
you'll be the best version of you.

00:53:16.165 --> 00:53:18.065
You may not be the best in the world.

00:53:18.760 --> 00:53:20.960
But as long as you're being
the best version of you, man,

00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:22.600
that's all anyone can ask for.

00:53:22.760 --> 00:53:23.090
Yeah.

00:53:24.040 --> 00:53:24.250
Travis Bader: Yeah.

00:53:24.250 --> 00:53:24.920
Good friend of mine.

00:53:24.930 --> 00:53:28.870
He's, uh, says, you know,
there's a common thread that

00:53:28.870 --> 00:53:30.560
I'm, I'm hearing on your podcast.

00:53:30.570 --> 00:53:32.830
You have these people on
that do amazing things.

00:53:32.830 --> 00:53:36.410
You've got green berets and Navy
SEALs and SAS and elite athletes.

00:53:36.410 --> 00:53:40.580
And, and the, the common thread is
that anybody can do this, right.

00:53:40.790 --> 00:53:41.680
He said, but that's not true.

00:53:41.700 --> 00:53:41.730
And.

00:53:43.095 --> 00:53:46.515
Not everybody can be a Green
Beret, not everyone can be SAS.

00:53:46.515 --> 00:53:49.095
Not everyone can run across Canada.

00:53:49.645 --> 00:53:53.835
And, um, he says, well, what
do you think about that?

00:53:54.235 --> 00:53:57.435
I said, well, I think
everyone can do better.

00:53:57.725 --> 00:54:00.415
I think everybody can have goals
that they can set for themselves

00:54:00.415 --> 00:54:02.835
and they can look at where they're
currently at now, because I agree.

00:54:02.835 --> 00:54:07.835
Not everyone can be elite special
forces, but they can take a look

00:54:07.835 --> 00:54:11.225
at where they're at right now
and they can say, I can do more.

00:54:11.815 --> 00:54:12.315
Sachin Latti: Agreed.

00:54:12.335 --> 00:54:14.015
So like, so let's say, for
example, let's take that special

00:54:14.015 --> 00:54:15.665
forces analogy for a second.

00:54:16.905 --> 00:54:19.545
Maybe when, if you know that
you want to do that, when you're

00:54:20.395 --> 00:54:21.695
13, then anyone can do it.

00:54:22.785 --> 00:54:25.505
Cause you have the time to
prepare yourself to figure

00:54:25.505 --> 00:54:26.615
out how to make that happen.

00:54:27.155 --> 00:54:27.545
Right.

00:54:27.965 --> 00:54:30.615
Um, let's take Nim's dive, for example.

00:54:30.935 --> 00:54:31.275
Okay.

00:54:31.585 --> 00:54:36.325
So he was able to do something epic
and amazing and a record of, you know,

00:54:36.325 --> 00:54:40.165
climbing the seven, seven, what was the
seven tallest peaks in seven months.

00:54:41.515 --> 00:54:43.655
At the age of 15, he could run 50 K.

00:54:44.700 --> 00:54:44.900
Right.

00:54:45.080 --> 00:54:46.890
Cause he was running around all the time.

00:54:46.970 --> 00:54:51.670
Like his body had a headstart to
some people because he was knew

00:54:51.670 --> 00:54:54.920
what he wanted to do and he spent
time and effort in trying to

00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:56.850
achieve a goal, even at a young age.

00:54:57.470 --> 00:55:03.710
So if you know what you want, if you
know what your purpose is and you

00:55:03.720 --> 00:55:08.300
said, um, you know, a plan in place
and then how fast you want to do that

00:55:08.300 --> 00:55:13.490
thing, you'll get there, but it's
determining what that thing is for you.

00:55:13.490 --> 00:55:13.850
So.

00:55:14.390 --> 00:55:20.440
You know, anyone can be a tier one
operator if they are aware of who

00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:25.010
they are and at the time in which they
decide to want to take that court.

00:55:25.010 --> 00:55:26.250
And then obviously the support pieces.

00:55:26.250 --> 00:55:29.250
But if you're 12 you have a father, that's
like, okay, that's what you want to do.

00:55:29.260 --> 00:55:30.240
I'll support in that endeavor.

00:55:30.600 --> 00:55:30.780
Okay.

00:55:30.780 --> 00:55:32.060
Do this, do that, do this, do that.

00:55:32.060 --> 00:55:33.710
And then who knows, maybe it happens.

00:55:33.860 --> 00:55:34.210
Travis Bader: Yeah.

00:55:34.280 --> 00:55:37.580
You know, there's always going to be
physical and, and mental limitations

00:55:37.610 --> 00:55:41.640
within the, within the sphere here,
but it doesn't mean they can't.

00:55:42.175 --> 00:55:45.215
Pushed from where they are now to
another phase, to the next stage.

00:55:45.915 --> 00:55:51.035
Um, and it's funny, you mentioned
Nim's dying because things

00:55:51.035 --> 00:55:52.245
kind of come full circle.

00:55:52.325 --> 00:55:53.895
He's inspired so many people.

00:55:53.925 --> 00:55:54.205
Yeah.

00:55:54.335 --> 00:55:54.685
Right.

00:55:55.085 --> 00:55:59.485
Um, indirectly, cause I'm,
I'm watching what he's doing.

00:55:59.485 --> 00:56:00.775
I'm like, man, that's so cool.

00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:03.090
You know, I'm watching
him do some paragliding.

00:56:03.090 --> 00:56:03.300
Right.

00:56:03.300 --> 00:56:04.260
Hey, that's pretty neat.

00:56:04.260 --> 00:56:04.540
Right.

00:56:04.690 --> 00:56:08.780
Turns out I, I know the person
who taught him how to paraglide.

00:56:08.780 --> 00:56:11.580
I found out in an indirect way, I
don't know the person personally,

00:56:11.690 --> 00:56:17.530
but, um, enough that, uh, me
and the fellow who taught him,

00:56:17.640 --> 00:56:19.210
uh, we're going to do a podcast.

00:56:19.210 --> 00:56:19.790
He's like, well.

00:56:20.465 --> 00:56:25.965
I'm over in Chamonix right now in France
and, um, uh, living there for a bit.

00:56:25.965 --> 00:56:27.405
And he's going to come over to BC.

00:56:27.405 --> 00:56:29.745
I'm like, I'll just come over to
you and tell you what, I got to

00:56:29.745 --> 00:56:33.085
pick up a paraglider and I'll go
do some paragliding in Chamonix.

00:56:33.185 --> 00:56:33.685
Yes.

00:56:33.765 --> 00:56:37.285
And so I did, and I've been learning
how to paraglide and I've been just.

00:56:37.820 --> 00:56:39.590
Doing my thing around
here for a little bit.

00:56:39.590 --> 00:56:42.560
And I've since learned
there's a lot to it.

00:56:42.590 --> 00:56:46.340
And maybe me going to Chamonix at my
beginner level, and that's sort of an

00:56:46.340 --> 00:56:49.380
elite sort of place to be paragliding
might not be the smartest thing

00:56:49.380 --> 00:56:50.860
to do, but, um, it's on the list.

00:56:50.890 --> 00:56:51.290
Why not?

00:56:52.630 --> 00:56:56.830
Uh, from a safety standpoint, just
learning how to properly control

00:56:56.830 --> 00:57:00.800
and, and in different, uh, weather
conditions, wind conditions, um,

00:57:01.670 --> 00:57:03.440
adiabatic winds, adiabatic winds, all,

00:57:03.460 --> 00:57:03.950
Sachin Latti: all the.

00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:07.690
The only reason I ask why is because,
um, I'm just thinking about my experience

00:57:07.690 --> 00:57:13.785
when I first entered in ultra running
and, um, I just entered in nine races.

00:57:14.105 --> 00:57:14.635
So, okay.

00:57:14.635 --> 00:57:17.555
So in 2022, I did nine ultra
marathons in nine months.

00:57:17.555 --> 00:57:17.785
Right.

00:57:18.295 --> 00:57:19.645
And I had never done that before.

00:57:19.725 --> 00:57:21.905
I hadn't even done a marathon before.

00:57:22.355 --> 00:57:22.675
Right.

00:57:22.705 --> 00:57:23.995
So, so, um.

00:57:24.615 --> 00:57:26.795
So what I did was do that, schedule that.

00:57:26.855 --> 00:57:31.255
And the first race I went to, I
never experienced or even saw what

00:57:31.255 --> 00:57:34.465
an ultra, and I went, the first
one I went to was a backyard ultra,

00:57:34.775 --> 00:57:40.125
which are like notoriously difficult
because you're doing a six kilometer

00:57:40.125 --> 00:57:42.955
loop over and over and over and over

00:57:43.005 --> 00:57:43.725
Travis Bader: mentally.

00:57:43.725 --> 00:57:44.195
That's gotta

00:57:44.195 --> 00:57:44.685
Sachin Latti: be tough.

00:57:44.695 --> 00:57:44.905
Yeah.

00:57:44.905 --> 00:57:50.475
And so that alone, and then I didn't know,
um, I posted this actually on my social

00:57:50.475 --> 00:57:54.385
media the other day, Chad Wright, talking
about how do you find a mentor and he's,

00:57:54.475 --> 00:57:56.305
Chad Wright's a Navy, retired Navy SEAL.

00:57:56.595 --> 00:57:58.525
He, uh, he's a ultra endurance guy.

00:57:59.285 --> 00:58:00.575
Anyways, I heard him on a podcast.

00:58:00.575 --> 00:58:02.035
I think it was on the Nick Bear podcast.

00:58:02.035 --> 00:58:04.905
And he was talking about, the question
was, how do you find a mentor?

00:58:05.285 --> 00:58:07.635
And how does one find a mentor
if they want to learn something?

00:58:08.145 --> 00:58:12.185
And he, you know, he, uh, Chad Wright
just picked up, okay, well, let's take,

00:58:12.355 --> 00:58:16.265
um, let's take ultra endurance, ultra
marathons, for an example, if you want to

00:58:16.285 --> 00:58:18.305
be a ultra marathoner, how do you do that?

00:58:18.915 --> 00:58:22.015
Well, he suggested you enter,
you just sign up for a race.

00:58:22.225 --> 00:58:24.965
Even if you don't know a
thing, you go show up and then

00:58:24.965 --> 00:58:26.955
you'll see what you don't know.

00:58:27.575 --> 00:58:30.195
You'll see that, oh, you don't
have the right nutrition.

00:58:30.700 --> 00:58:34.400
You don't have a race pit, you don't
have support, all the things associated.

00:58:34.410 --> 00:58:37.570
So when he was saying all these things,
I was like, that was me two years ago.

00:58:38.810 --> 00:58:40.670
Cause I registered for this backyard.

00:58:40.700 --> 00:58:42.290
I showed up with no crew.

00:58:43.295 --> 00:58:46.805
And in these things, you have like a
crew, a pit crew to help you because

00:58:46.805 --> 00:58:49.975
you, you stop, you get your fluids,
nutrition, and then you keep moving.

00:58:49.975 --> 00:58:50.235
Right.

00:58:50.925 --> 00:58:51.735
So I didn't have that.

00:58:51.815 --> 00:58:53.075
I didn't even bring any food.

00:58:54.445 --> 00:58:57.275
I maybe brought like, you know, very
minimal, nothing compared to what I

00:58:57.275 --> 00:59:02.095
would do now at the shoes, the clothes,
all the things I was so ill prepared.

00:59:02.965 --> 00:59:03.555
But you did it.

00:59:03.555 --> 00:59:04.195
But I did it.

00:59:04.215 --> 00:59:04.885
I entered it.

00:59:04.905 --> 00:59:07.715
I, and I epically failed in
terms of like how far I made it.

00:59:07.715 --> 00:59:09.915
Like there was people,
savages, 300 kilometers.

00:59:09.915 --> 00:59:12.555
I think I was like 47 kilometers
or something in my first time.

00:59:13.145 --> 00:59:16.575
Um, but, but what it taught me
was like, I don't know anything.

00:59:17.290 --> 00:59:20.530
And there's a ton of
people out there that do.

00:59:21.110 --> 00:59:25.420
And it just, um, it opened my
eyes up to what's possible.

00:59:25.420 --> 00:59:29.470
And then through that, I was in an
environment where people could see I was

00:59:29.470 --> 00:59:33.980
nobody or just starting out and they would
be like, Hey, man, do that, or try this,

00:59:34.010 --> 00:59:35.780
or would point me in different directions.

00:59:35.780 --> 00:59:39.570
So unless, and until I entered
in an environment that I wanted

00:59:39.590 --> 00:59:43.450
to actually enter into, how does
one find a mentor in that space?

00:59:44.365 --> 00:59:46.925
Because you have to do the thing
to be able to start doing so for

00:59:46.925 --> 00:59:50.180
example if I want to start hunting
well I got a Start doing something.

00:59:50.180 --> 00:59:53.960
And through that, start meeting
people in that collective who

00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:55.160
may say, Oh, you know what?

00:59:55.160 --> 00:59:56.890
I'll take you on, I'll
help you out or whatever.

00:59:56.890 --> 00:59:59.670
But you have to start going in
those environments, otherwise

00:59:59.670 --> 01:00:00.640
you're never going to excel.

01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:01.000
You

01:00:01.000 --> 01:00:06.280
Travis Bader: just either advertently or
inadvertently under covered what I feel

01:00:06.280 --> 01:00:11.600
to be the number one life hack and that's
surround yourself with the people who

01:00:11.600 --> 01:00:13.890
are doing what you want to be able to do.

01:00:14.830 --> 01:00:17.060
Reach out to the experts in the industry.

01:00:17.150 --> 01:00:20.425
There's one guy who's talking
about, um, Uh, all I want to

01:00:20.425 --> 01:00:21.775
learn about, I forget what it was.

01:00:21.775 --> 01:00:24.935
It was maybe some neurosurgery
or, or whatever it is.

01:00:24.945 --> 01:00:27.095
So I'm going to reach out to the
top neurosurgeon and say, Oh,

01:00:27.105 --> 01:00:28.355
how much do you make an hour?

01:00:28.425 --> 01:00:29.645
And okay.

01:00:30.135 --> 01:00:33.835
If I were to pay you exponentially
more than that in a month's time

01:00:33.835 --> 01:00:35.505
to spend a full day with you.

01:00:36.035 --> 01:00:39.435
Could you put something together
for me and distill all of the

01:00:39.435 --> 01:00:42.635
main information that you think
would be important for me to know?

01:00:42.635 --> 01:00:46.835
And they said, that person
spent so much time putting all

01:00:46.835 --> 01:00:48.075
of that information together.

01:00:48.105 --> 01:00:51.325
They sat down, they distilled all of
this information over and then they

01:00:51.325 --> 01:00:53.415
wanted to see them succeed afterwards.

01:00:53.775 --> 01:00:56.395
So you don't, you value
that mentor's time.

01:00:56.435 --> 01:00:57.275
You value the person.

01:00:57.295 --> 01:00:59.565
You don't just sit there and be a
leech and take advantage of them.

01:00:59.565 --> 01:01:05.495
And you make sure you actually put
into practice and, and, um, Work that

01:01:05.495 --> 01:01:06.745
information that they provide you.

01:01:07.145 --> 01:01:09.555
So you seem grateful, right?

01:01:10.445 --> 01:01:11.175
Sachin Latti: It makes sense, man.

01:01:11.175 --> 01:01:15.605
And I think, um, on the endeavors that
I'm moving on to now, I think that's

01:01:15.605 --> 01:01:17.325
a important thing to remember for me.

01:01:17.775 --> 01:01:21.875
Cause like I, like, just like you, I have
difficulty valuing, um, some of the things

01:01:21.885 --> 01:01:23.855
that I may be able to offer some people.

01:01:24.555 --> 01:01:26.095
So I'm going into the coaching space now.

01:01:26.155 --> 01:01:26.455
Right.

01:01:26.485 --> 01:01:31.995
And, and I want to start, um,
um, helping, or not even helping

01:01:31.995 --> 01:01:33.175
working with other people.

01:01:33.705 --> 01:01:36.775
Who have certain types of goals,
and I want to be able to at least

01:01:36.775 --> 01:01:42.025
facilitate through my experiences
that, uh, that they can achieve their

01:01:42.025 --> 01:01:43.215
own goals, whatever they may be.

01:01:43.215 --> 01:01:47.925
So, for example, I was speaking to
a guy this morning who, who is a

01:01:47.925 --> 01:01:51.875
new client and really, really a guy
that I'm going to be working with.

01:01:51.905 --> 01:01:54.835
And, um, He's a, he's a first responder.

01:01:54.965 --> 01:01:59.335
He's, um, lives in the Okanagan
area and he wants to be able to

01:01:59.335 --> 01:02:03.605
do a fundraiser next year, um, to
raise money for wounded warriors.

01:02:03.645 --> 01:02:07.835
And by way of doing it, he wants to
run a 60 kilometers from one cenotaph

01:02:07.845 --> 01:02:09.385
to the other across the interior.

01:02:09.525 --> 01:02:13.855
I think it's from a Soyuz to, um, I can't
remember the Penticton maybe or something.

01:02:13.885 --> 01:02:17.205
I can't remember the, the,
the actual route, but anyways,

01:02:17.205 --> 01:02:18.015
he was talking about this.

01:02:18.015 --> 01:02:19.775
So I want to talk to people like that.

01:02:20.575 --> 01:02:24.785
And, and, and, and, and be able to
see if I can support people with the

01:02:24.795 --> 01:02:29.265
knowledge I've gathered over the last
little while to be able to help them

01:02:29.295 --> 01:02:32.455
achieve their goal, but not only just
achieve their goal, but crush their goal.

01:02:32.645 --> 01:02:36.955
Cause not just running the 60 K that he's
planning to do, but how do we help him

01:02:37.335 --> 01:02:41.445
raise up the community that he's in and
then also use maybe various different

01:02:41.445 --> 01:02:44.525
platforms to raise as much money and all
the things associated to what he's doing.

01:02:44.525 --> 01:02:46.325
So for me, that's kind of.

01:02:46.565 --> 01:02:47.895
The space I'm moving towards.

01:02:47.895 --> 01:02:51.965
And I think, um, now that I've kind
of experienced a few things and

01:02:51.965 --> 01:02:54.635
I'm going to continue experiencing
things, cause I'm not going to be

01:02:54.635 --> 01:02:56.935
that type of guy who's going to be
like, Hey, you do this, you do that.

01:02:56.985 --> 01:03:00.015
I mean, I'm, I want to be in
the trenches all the time, so

01:03:00.015 --> 01:03:01.375
I'm always pushing my envelope.

01:03:01.395 --> 01:03:03.595
I'm always trying to
see what, what I can do.

01:03:03.615 --> 01:03:07.375
And then through that process, whatever
I can learn through that testing myself,

01:03:07.905 --> 01:03:10.175
both in extreme conditions, and then the.

01:03:10.320 --> 01:03:14.920
Best conditions, then I can
call the kind of collate that

01:03:14.920 --> 01:03:16.310
information and bring it together.

01:03:16.310 --> 01:03:19.950
And then based on the individual
that I'm speaking with, find the

01:03:19.950 --> 01:03:22.380
right solutions specifically just

01:03:22.380 --> 01:03:22.750
Travis Bader: for them.

01:03:23.170 --> 01:03:24.850
When did you come to that realization?

01:03:24.930 --> 01:03:29.640
Was this prior to the 22 or is this
a very recent, very, so you fast

01:03:29.640 --> 01:03:31.690
forwarded to the, after the 22, which.

01:03:32.125 --> 01:03:35.395
Um, I, I think it's amazing.

01:03:35.795 --> 01:03:41.875
Um, I want to talk more about that,
but in an effort to try and not

01:03:41.875 --> 01:03:43.725
let my ADHD run all over the place.

01:03:43.765 --> 01:03:44.395
Let's stick to what

01:03:44.395 --> 01:03:44.935
Sachin Latti: you got, bro.

01:03:44.995 --> 01:03:45.575
Um,

01:03:46.675 --> 01:03:47.845
Travis Bader: injuries on the 22?

01:03:49.695 --> 01:03:53.920
Sachin Latti: So I'm really happy
with the training that, um, Myself

01:03:54.650 --> 01:03:58.560
and my, my coaches and my supporting
people around me, kinesiologists and,

01:03:58.740 --> 01:04:03.810
um, physiotherapists and people, um,
I didn't have anything significant,

01:04:03.830 --> 01:04:07.940
you know, a missing toenail and some
swollen feet, plantar fasciitis, your

01:04:07.940 --> 01:04:13.130
kind of typical sort of, um, issues
that happen from, from accumulation.

01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:18.570
But outside of that, man, I, it's
the main, biggest hit I took is to my

01:04:18.570 --> 01:04:21.440
central nervous system, which is going
to happen no matter what, when you're

01:04:21.440 --> 01:04:27.360
doing something that's, um, that large and
over a period of time, so, so there's a

01:04:27.370 --> 01:04:29.420
CNS fatigue, so central nervous fatigue.

01:04:29.420 --> 01:04:31.600
So right now I'm.

01:04:32.025 --> 01:04:36.805
I'm probably going to stay away
from a major strenuous activity for

01:04:36.805 --> 01:04:40.175
about three to four weeks so I can
recover my central nervous system.

01:04:40.175 --> 01:04:44.915
So what that means is if I were to
go for, okay, so I went to mental

01:04:44.915 --> 01:04:47.825
health walk, uh, the one that
Seb puts on every other Sunday.

01:04:48.315 --> 01:04:50.445
And I went there this last
Sunday, it was a two hour walk.

01:04:50.475 --> 01:04:52.440
I was exhausted after.

01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:58.980
Like, so it's a level of fatigue
that is like, not normal for me.

01:04:59.050 --> 01:05:03.080
So, which indicates that I'm,
uh, I've had a bit of a, uh,

01:05:03.090 --> 01:05:05.620
CNS fatigue and which is normal.

01:05:05.780 --> 01:05:06.270
So,

01:05:06.950 --> 01:05:08.430
Travis Bader: um, is
that like a mental thing?

01:05:08.430 --> 01:05:08.810
Is that

01:05:08.810 --> 01:05:10.290
Sachin Latti: a physical body thing?

01:05:10.300 --> 01:05:13.240
Like it just, uh, internal, uh,
your nervous system is kind of,

01:05:13.990 --> 01:05:16.450
uh, fatigue based on overstressed.

01:05:16.450 --> 01:05:21.890
So, um, you know, like basically almost
each day for the last four days, like

01:05:21.890 --> 01:05:25.520
around two o'clock, I'm like, I'm
lying down, I'm kind of exhausted.

01:05:25.520 --> 01:05:27.470
I'm drained, so to speak.

01:05:27.870 --> 01:05:31.300
Um, but that is normal.

01:05:31.300 --> 01:05:34.950
So, you know, things that are, uh, to
kind of fix that are obviously, you

01:05:34.950 --> 01:05:39.610
know, rest, stretch, eat properly,
anti inflammatory, you know, do anti

01:05:39.610 --> 01:05:43.620
inflammatory things to, and, you know,
make sure the, the inflammation reduces.

01:05:43.620 --> 01:05:47.030
But so to answer your question,
that's the most significant

01:05:47.030 --> 01:05:48.320
thing that's been affecting me.

01:05:48.510 --> 01:05:49.430
CNS stress.

01:05:50.290 --> 01:05:52.270
Travis Bader: Can that,
so that would be from the.

01:05:52.345 --> 01:05:54.705
Physical, can the mental induce CNS?

01:05:54.705 --> 01:05:56.045
Like I think so.

01:05:56.155 --> 01:05:56.565
Sachin Latti: Yeah.

01:05:56.635 --> 01:05:59.205
I mean, I could be wrong, but even
let's say, for example, if I'm thinking

01:05:59.235 --> 01:06:02.125
like over the last few days, I've been
thinking a lot because I'm trying to

01:06:02.125 --> 01:06:04.475
do a bunch of different things and
I'm exhausted even after thinking.

01:06:04.855 --> 01:06:09.455
So I think the, um, the, the
energy required to think.

01:06:09.800 --> 01:06:12.890
And when you're dealing with stress
and these types of things, I think it

01:06:12.910 --> 01:06:14.960
really takes a toll on the body as well.

01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:18.610
So as you can imagine, I'm not just
running those 22 days and I'm booking

01:06:18.610 --> 01:06:22.990
hotels and gas, food, groceries, like
all the things, managing everything all

01:06:22.990 --> 01:06:26.970
at the same time, girlfriend dealing
with, you know, how to navigate the new

01:06:26.970 --> 01:06:29.530
relationship as I'm running 22 marathons.

01:06:29.540 --> 01:06:33.965
Like, so there's a lot of things
happening that, um, That, uh,

01:06:35.765 --> 01:06:37.085
that I'm happy happened, man.

01:06:37.115 --> 01:06:40.855
Cause I, I made it through and it all
worked out and I'm, you know, just

01:06:40.855 --> 01:06:43.175
dealing with CNS, which is whatever.

01:06:43.445 --> 01:06:46.095
Travis Bader: Well, I've read studies
that your brain consumes more energy

01:06:46.095 --> 01:06:47.725
than any, any part of your body.

01:06:48.065 --> 01:06:48.755
I believe it.

01:06:48.875 --> 01:06:53.915
So when you're running, are you trying to
turn your brain off to preserve energy?

01:06:53.955 --> 01:06:58.475
Are you, cause I know when I run and I
don't run like you, but when I run, I'm

01:06:58.705 --> 01:07:01.485
thinking about business, I'm thinking
about, uh, all these other things.

01:07:01.495 --> 01:07:04.865
And I find that affects my ability to run.

01:07:05.375 --> 01:07:09.075
More than if I just keep
saying the same goofy song over

01:07:09.075 --> 01:07:10.375
and over in my head, right.

01:07:10.805 --> 01:07:13.515
Or, or God, that mantra that I go over.

01:07:13.765 --> 01:07:16.285
Sachin Latti: Well, I mean, as
you can imagine, like on average,

01:07:16.285 --> 01:07:18.555
I was running between five and
five and a half hours each day.

01:07:18.555 --> 01:07:18.785
Right.

01:07:18.825 --> 01:07:19.095
Yeah.

01:07:19.155 --> 01:07:22.255
So, you know, there's ebbs and
flows of how I'm thinking, what I'm

01:07:22.255 --> 01:07:26.165
thinking about, but I tried to stay
in the moment as much as I could

01:07:26.165 --> 01:07:28.185
and tried not to think too much.

01:07:29.205 --> 01:07:34.125
You know, I did, but I did my best not to.

01:07:34.125 --> 01:07:35.305
So how did I do that?

01:07:35.305 --> 01:07:35.585
Well.

01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:38.640
There was, I was in some
beautiful areas, man.

01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:39.350
Yeah.

01:07:39.450 --> 01:07:43.250
So I'm, you know, even despite the
smoke, you know, despite the smoke,

01:07:43.260 --> 01:07:48.830
I'm still like, um, you know, running
from, let's say Lillooet to Pemberton.

01:07:48.920 --> 01:07:49.610
That's beautiful.

01:07:50.460 --> 01:07:51.210
Travis Bader: Oh, it's a great area.

01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:51.970
Yeah.

01:07:51.970 --> 01:07:52.750
A lot of hills,

01:07:52.760 --> 01:07:54.660
Sachin Latti: a lot of
elevation, but it's beautiful.

01:07:54.660 --> 01:07:54.920
Right.

01:07:54.970 --> 01:07:57.790
And so for me, I was
paying attention to that.

01:07:57.820 --> 01:07:58.100
Were you

01:07:58.130 --> 01:07:59.060
Travis Bader: running down the Duffy?

01:07:59.080 --> 01:07:59.350
Yeah.

01:07:59.700 --> 01:08:00.660
I did the Duffy road, bro.

01:08:00.670 --> 01:08:00.860
Yeah.

01:08:00.920 --> 01:08:01.130
Nice.

01:08:01.580 --> 01:08:02.740
See any, any wildlife?

01:08:02.860 --> 01:08:03.640
Sachin Latti: I did a little bit.

01:08:03.670 --> 01:08:05.880
I saw a couple of deer, but nothing major.

01:08:05.990 --> 01:08:06.110
I

01:08:06.110 --> 01:08:07.410
Travis Bader: didn't see any
bears or anything like that.

01:08:07.600 --> 01:08:12.280
The amount of grizz that I saw up
there a few months ago was insane.

01:08:12.290 --> 01:08:12.440
Well,

01:08:12.440 --> 01:08:12.900
Sachin Latti: yeah, man.

01:08:12.930 --> 01:08:14.950
I mean, look, it is beautiful out there.

01:08:15.210 --> 01:08:17.850
And I was thinking about that when I
was running, cause I thought, okay,

01:08:17.850 --> 01:08:20.700
well, this fires and the smoke,
maybe that'll displace some of these

01:08:20.710 --> 01:08:21.910
bears and some of these animals.

01:08:21.910 --> 01:08:23.010
Maybe they may jump on the road.

01:08:23.020 --> 01:08:23.420
Who knows?

01:08:23.420 --> 01:08:23.620
Right.

01:08:24.060 --> 01:08:25.140
So I was paying attention.

01:08:25.150 --> 01:08:29.620
So I was staying in the moment and, um,
There were things I was trying to do,

01:08:29.640 --> 01:08:33.750
like, man, like, uh, my legs were feeling
it and my feet were really feeling it

01:08:33.750 --> 01:08:37.250
in terms of the inflammation and, and,
and, and, and the pain, so to speak.

01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:41.160
So I was talking to another
friend of ours, uh, Julie Kelly.

01:08:41.170 --> 01:08:46.150
She's a ultra endurance, uh, uh,
24 hour solo mountain bike racer.

01:08:46.170 --> 01:08:49.410
She's gearing up to do the
world champion chip in Australia

01:08:49.410 --> 01:08:50.590
here in the next few weeks.

01:08:50.590 --> 01:08:52.230
And, um, so I, you know, I.

01:08:52.680 --> 01:08:55.490
I asked her, I go, Hey man, like,
cause she's done a lot of like

01:08:55.500 --> 01:08:56.850
long endurance kind of things.

01:08:56.850 --> 01:08:59.540
And I go, Hey, like any
suggestions to kind of manage

01:08:59.580 --> 01:09:01.000
my feet right now and my legs.

01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:02.350
And while I was running.

01:09:03.420 --> 01:09:05.380
And she's like, yeah, just find
a Creek, you know, jump in.

01:09:05.970 --> 01:09:09.920
So, uh, was, um, getting towards
Squamish and you know, how

01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:10.860
beautiful it is there, right?

01:09:11.300 --> 01:09:14.510
Yeah, actually it wasn't, yeah,
Squamish area and, and all the,

01:09:14.540 --> 01:09:17.260
you know, the Creeks, the rivers,
the rapids, all the things.

01:09:17.410 --> 01:09:17.430
Yeah.

01:09:17.730 --> 01:09:19.740
And I just, I was, I was
staying in the moment.

01:09:19.740 --> 01:09:22.335
I was looking, I saw it and I was
like, I'm taking a 10 minute break.

01:09:22.375 --> 01:09:24.065
Now the chicken moose there in Squamish.

01:09:24.065 --> 01:09:27.525
So it was just kind of, I, it was
actually probably a little bit

01:09:27.525 --> 01:09:28.725
dangerous, but I was like, whatever.

01:09:28.765 --> 01:09:31.015
And I, it was, you know, the rapids
were kind of moving pretty fast.

01:09:31.015 --> 01:09:34.415
And, um, I took my shoes off, my
socks, dip my legs in for 10 minutes.

01:09:34.425 --> 01:09:37.075
And then that recalibrated
me like no other.

01:09:37.415 --> 01:09:41.135
I felt, I felt fresh and I
kept, I almost went faster.

01:09:41.285 --> 01:09:42.455
Nature, your bathing, right?

01:09:42.455 --> 01:09:42.965
No man.

01:09:42.965 --> 01:09:45.275
And so little things like
that to stay in the moment.

01:09:45.275 --> 01:09:49.175
So I wouldn't think so much, but
you know, it's, I would be thinking

01:09:49.235 --> 01:09:51.095
mm-hmm and, and it's gonna happen.

01:09:51.095 --> 01:09:51.755
It's inevitable.

01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:56.435
But I think, um, once they got to a
certain place, you know, I would, you

01:09:56.440 --> 01:10:00.275
know, pay attention to the mountains,
the trees, the, the sounds of the birds.

01:10:00.275 --> 01:10:03.905
I would also listen to music from
time to time, stay, listen to the same

01:10:03.905 --> 01:10:10.080
songs over and over to kind of, Um,
I would, uh, try to, when I would be

01:10:10.080 --> 01:10:14.020
running, I would periodically try to
touch the signs to stay in the moment.

01:10:14.020 --> 01:10:14.630
So I do that.

01:10:14.630 --> 01:10:14.930
Yeah.

01:10:14.990 --> 01:10:15.290
Right.

01:10:15.320 --> 01:10:19.020
And, and, or maybe, um, touch some of the
flowers or the trees while I'm running

01:10:19.020 --> 01:10:23.760
just to kind of stay in the moment, little
things like that to stay, stay present.

01:10:23.850 --> 01:10:26.640
And, um, you know, those
things helped for sure.

01:10:27.510 --> 01:10:28.110
Very cool.

01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:32.550
Travis Bader: So I, anything else
we should know about the during?

01:10:33.910 --> 01:10:38.095
Sachin Latti: Think for me during,
um, the, the, the Once I hit 11,

01:10:38.135 --> 01:10:39.715
halfway mark, then I was good.

01:10:40.795 --> 01:10:42.655
Like in terms of mentally,
like really secure.

01:10:42.655 --> 01:10:44.065
I'm like, look, I made it halfway.

01:10:44.065 --> 01:10:45.525
If I'm halfway done, I'm all the way done.

01:10:45.955 --> 01:10:47.045
There's no way it's helping now.

01:10:47.045 --> 01:10:51.465
So it was really me going through
those first five, 10, 11 days

01:10:51.595 --> 01:10:52.855
were the most challenging.

01:10:53.355 --> 01:10:54.645
Travis Bader: You're
doing those daily posts.

01:10:54.645 --> 01:10:58.005
And I remember when you reached the 11
and I admit, I left a post on there saying

01:10:58.055 --> 01:11:00.285
halfway there, you're it's all downhill.

01:11:00.285 --> 01:11:01.365
You're, you're, you're good to go.

01:11:01.365 --> 01:11:03.765
But I, I put that there because.

01:11:06.540 --> 01:11:09.180
I don't know if I was reading more into
it than I, than what was happening,

01:11:09.180 --> 01:11:11.790
but it looked like there was some, um,

01:11:13.250 --> 01:11:13.920
Sachin Latti: it was challenging.

01:11:13.990 --> 01:11:17.715
It was, I listen, man, it was, it
was, it was It was challenging, man.

01:11:17.765 --> 01:11:19.305
And those challenges were a gift.

01:11:19.775 --> 01:11:20.845
I'm so happy I had them.

01:11:21.495 --> 01:11:22.435
It was hard.

01:11:22.585 --> 01:11:26.085
Yeah, it was hard and it was
emotionally draining for me.

01:11:26.235 --> 01:11:26.535
Yeah.

01:11:26.735 --> 01:11:27.545
Travis Bader: That's what I was

01:11:27.545 --> 01:11:28.155
Sachin Latti: picking up on.

01:11:28.155 --> 01:11:28.355
Yeah.

01:11:28.385 --> 01:11:29.675
It was emotionally draining.

01:11:29.685 --> 01:11:36.415
Cause look, man, I, and credit to Julia,
who's my girlfriend, she, you know,

01:11:36.425 --> 01:11:41.715
we've only been dating for like six
months or something and, and, um, so she.

01:11:42.240 --> 01:11:46.750
So there were challenges in that
because we're experiencing ups

01:11:46.750 --> 01:11:50.660
and downs and how do you navigate
that and how do you best do it?

01:11:50.660 --> 01:11:54.230
So she's never been around someone
who's been a ultra endurance person.

01:11:54.240 --> 01:11:58.030
She's an athlete herself, but it's a
different thing also when someone's doing

01:11:58.030 --> 01:12:04.710
a, um, a large sort of ultra endurance
event, it is, it generally becomes about

01:12:04.720 --> 01:12:07.180
that individual and supporting them
and making sure that they're all there.

01:12:07.180 --> 01:12:09.670
And so she wasn't really too
familiar on some of that.

01:12:10.385 --> 01:12:14.175
So there was some challenges there, but
I think overall it worked out amazing.

01:12:14.175 --> 01:12:15.165
She was super supportive.

01:12:15.165 --> 01:12:16.695
She learned a lot through the process.

01:12:16.775 --> 01:12:20.945
I learned a ton through that process
and how to properly communicate with

01:12:20.945 --> 01:12:23.285
someone, um, who's like herself.

01:12:23.795 --> 01:12:26.045
So that was helpful for me
to understand that piece.

01:12:26.045 --> 01:12:28.515
And then also at the end of the
day, man, she's, she was amazing.

01:12:28.765 --> 01:12:28.985
Yeah.

01:12:28.995 --> 01:12:29.995
Like, I mean, I had someone.

01:12:30.390 --> 01:12:33.360
Supporting me, who's a business
woman herself, who has her own

01:12:33.360 --> 01:12:37.590
business, who's servicing all her
own clients and supporting me while

01:12:37.590 --> 01:12:40.840
I'm running five and a half hours
every single day with her vehicle.

01:12:40.970 --> 01:12:46.450
And so, you know, um, challenges,
yes, but they're all good ones.

01:12:46.930 --> 01:12:49.990
Travis Bader: I like that properly
communicate comment because so many

01:12:49.990 --> 01:12:51.430
people are like, you're not listening.

01:12:51.430 --> 01:12:52.240
You're not this.

01:12:52.730 --> 01:12:54.110
It's not the other person's job.

01:12:54.120 --> 01:12:56.620
If I'm saying something and
it's not coming through.

01:12:56.925 --> 01:13:01.495
That I have to recalibrate, readjust and
figure out, how do I say this differently?

01:13:01.545 --> 01:13:03.005
How do we get there together?

01:13:03.025 --> 01:13:03.405
Right.

01:13:03.545 --> 01:13:03.775
Sachin Latti: Yeah.

01:13:03.775 --> 01:13:07.505
And that's kind of, that's a journey
for me too, because I've been, uh, if

01:13:07.505 --> 01:13:10.765
I were to really look at myself over
my, most of my life, I've been a solo.

01:13:11.275 --> 01:13:16.675
Um, character, so to speak, and, and even
though I've been around people, it's, I

01:13:16.675 --> 01:13:18.285
think I've been kind of an individual.

01:13:18.395 --> 01:13:19.385
A one man wolf pack.

01:13:19.435 --> 01:13:20.105
Kind of.

01:13:20.325 --> 01:13:25.225
And, and I think for me, it's really
important and good to be around people

01:13:25.805 --> 01:13:32.435
who, um, who are like say Julia and others
to help me understand the benefits and

01:13:32.455 --> 01:13:37.415
actually how much more growth and how
much more positive things will happen

01:13:37.605 --> 01:13:39.795
as a group, as a collective, as a team.

01:13:41.970 --> 01:13:46.380
Travis Bader: So now we move to
after, when it was done, what were

01:13:46.380 --> 01:13:49.220
you feeling immediately after it
was done, was it like, oh, thank

01:13:49.220 --> 01:13:50.410
God, or I want to do another one.

01:13:50.850 --> 01:13:52.770
Sachin Latti: Man, at the end, I was, um.

01:13:53.360 --> 01:13:55.830
I was thinking about next, what's next.

01:13:56.390 --> 01:13:59.210
Um, and I already kind of had a rough
idea, even the last couple of days,

01:13:59.210 --> 01:14:04.940
what would next was, I was, but on the
last day I wanted to enjoy, I made it

01:14:04.940 --> 01:14:09.440
to Victoria and it was probably the
strongest I felt like I've, I felt like

01:14:09.590 --> 01:14:12.370
I could have ran faster on that last day.

01:14:12.610 --> 01:14:15.870
So I had, uh, I tempered myself a
bit, but I believe, you know, some

01:14:15.870 --> 01:14:19.090
of that adrenaline excitement getting
through the end was really driving me.

01:14:19.660 --> 01:14:22.720
Um, and it was, uh.

01:14:23.635 --> 01:14:25.325
Emotional and touching.

01:14:25.535 --> 01:14:28.235
I didn't, I thought how
I may respond at the end.

01:14:28.695 --> 01:14:30.865
I thought it would have broken
down and got super emotional.

01:14:30.865 --> 01:14:34.205
I didn't, but it was emotional.

01:14:34.235 --> 01:14:36.525
I made it to the BC law
enforcement memorial in

01:14:36.525 --> 01:14:38.335
Victoria at the BC legislature.

01:14:38.685 --> 01:14:45.885
I paid my respects and to my surprise,
uh, it was about 12, a dozen Victoria

01:14:45.885 --> 01:14:50.075
police members there waiting to
receive me with the chief of police.

01:14:50.375 --> 01:14:52.305
And that was unexpected for me.

01:14:53.035 --> 01:14:58.465
And I had a inkling that may happen,
but to see how they were there and,

01:14:58.505 --> 01:15:04.835
um, how they received me, man, it was
really humbling and it was touching.

01:15:05.375 --> 01:15:09.105
And, um, and then, uh, the news was
there, Czech news, they did a little

01:15:09.105 --> 01:15:13.605
story and the decree, the cherry on top.

01:15:13.950 --> 01:15:18.670
Was when I was kind of the, the chief,
uh, Del Manic asked me to kind of

01:15:18.780 --> 01:15:24.210
give a few words and I was like, I
just ran, but I was like, okay, cool.

01:15:24.210 --> 01:15:24.870
I'll do my best.

01:15:24.870 --> 01:15:29.040
And then, and so what they ended up doing,
we had the monument behind me and then

01:15:29.320 --> 01:15:31.090
they were kind of semicircle around and.

01:15:32.100 --> 01:15:35.650
I was just saying my thing and I
was looking and then to my left,

01:15:36.190 --> 01:15:39.880
there was a civilian, uh, elder
fella, maybe in the seventies.

01:15:40.430 --> 01:15:43.170
And, uh, he raised his hand
cause he wanted to say something.

01:15:43.460 --> 01:15:45.850
I was like, yeah, yeah, what's up bro.

01:15:46.900 --> 01:15:51.070
And man, um, it, it was so
awesome to have him there.

01:15:51.300 --> 01:15:55.860
And I'll explain why it was like that
Pavlov dogs sort of theory, you know, when

01:15:55.860 --> 01:15:59.090
you get positive reinforcement immediately
after something that you've done.

01:15:59.790 --> 01:16:05.010
So he was a veteran, uh, he's also
a retired Toronto police service.

01:16:05.530 --> 01:16:06.220
Um.

01:16:06.570 --> 01:16:10.170
He had been in the Air Force in
the 60s and 70s, and then he was,

01:16:10.170 --> 01:16:15.650
um, worked for Toronto, and he was
diagnosed with complex PTSD based on

01:16:15.650 --> 01:16:20.270
his service, so you, and based on how
he was communicating, I think there

01:16:20.270 --> 01:16:24.460
were various other, maybe some issues
that may have come up through service.

01:16:24.530 --> 01:16:29.770
Anyways, having said that, he just wanted
to, I mean, I just feel weird saying

01:16:29.770 --> 01:16:31.350
this, but, um, he wanted to thank me.

01:16:32.270 --> 01:16:35.220
And he was like, uh, look, I
can't believe what you just did.

01:16:35.220 --> 01:16:38.560
Cause he, he was just a random
dude walking around and he

01:16:38.560 --> 01:16:39.740
had saw what was going on.

01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:43.990
And he came up to Julia's vehicle,
saw my, the signs on the vehicle

01:16:44.020 --> 01:16:45.460
and started asking, what is this?

01:16:45.490 --> 01:16:46.000
What's going on?

01:16:46.610 --> 01:16:48.240
And then she started explaining it to him.

01:16:48.260 --> 01:16:49.300
And then he was like, what?

01:16:49.780 --> 01:16:52.010
So then he wanted to come
in and say something.

01:16:52.010 --> 01:16:54.650
And he was just saying, look,
this was my service, this is

01:16:54.650 --> 01:16:55.990
what happened through my service.

01:16:56.650 --> 01:16:57.140
Thank you.

01:16:57.140 --> 01:16:58.560
I cannot believe what you just did.

01:16:58.570 --> 01:17:01.150
What you just did is super
helpful and thank you.

01:17:01.240 --> 01:17:06.690
And I was like, I gave him a hug
and I said, no, man, thank you.

01:17:07.380 --> 01:17:08.000
That's awesome.

01:17:08.020 --> 01:17:11.940
And that for me was the
metal that I wanted.

01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:13.530
Travis Bader: That's amazing.

01:17:13.580 --> 01:17:13.860
Yeah.

01:17:14.785 --> 01:17:18.835
You know, I, I find I'm guilty of this.

01:17:19.475 --> 01:17:21.195
I will set goals for myself.

01:17:21.525 --> 01:17:22.995
I'll achieve that goal.

01:17:23.435 --> 01:17:25.225
And I'm already setting the next goal.

01:17:26.265 --> 01:17:27.765
What you said resonated.

01:17:27.795 --> 01:17:29.565
You said you wanted to enjoy the moment.

01:17:29.575 --> 01:17:32.535
He wanted to spend some time
to enjoy, to take a time, a

01:17:32.535 --> 01:17:34.425
moment to celebrate your win.

01:17:35.145 --> 01:17:37.125
I think that's a really powerful thing.

01:17:37.125 --> 01:17:39.685
And it's something that I've
been disciplining myself on is.

01:17:40.035 --> 01:17:40.485
Okay.

01:17:40.815 --> 01:17:45.685
Recognize when I've reached a
certain goal and then find a

01:17:45.685 --> 01:17:47.255
way to properly celebrate it.

01:17:47.885 --> 01:17:48.895
How did you celebrate?

01:17:49.975 --> 01:17:51.305
Sachin Latti: I celebrated it.

01:17:51.725 --> 01:17:54.005
So I understand like, look,
Julia was there the whole time.

01:17:54.005 --> 01:17:56.055
So she was also, you
know, part of the journey.

01:17:56.055 --> 01:17:59.205
So I wanted her to also enjoy as well.

01:17:59.815 --> 01:18:03.645
So we stayed in Victoria for a day
and a half after, and so I wanted

01:18:03.645 --> 01:18:07.645
her to have some time to enjoy, and I
didn't want to be all about my thing.

01:18:07.900 --> 01:18:11.690
I wanted to kind of do something together,
enjoy the weekend kind of thing, but

01:18:11.690 --> 01:18:19.320
also Zach from the Canadian podcast,
he flew out and he was really awesome.

01:18:19.330 --> 01:18:22.940
So he flew out to, uh,
to receive me as well.

01:18:23.270 --> 01:18:24.240
Good on you, Zach.

01:18:24.270 --> 01:18:24.650
Yeah.

01:18:24.650 --> 01:18:24.970
Right.

01:18:24.970 --> 01:18:28.550
And, um, and so he was there, he,
it was a surprise cause Julia had

01:18:28.550 --> 01:18:30.800
mentioned that he was thinking about
coming, but he just couldn't make it

01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:32.780
cause you know, it wasn't feasible.

01:18:33.395 --> 01:18:36.645
So, um, he ended up showing
up, he just walked up and he's

01:18:36.645 --> 01:18:37.425
like, Hey, what's up, bro.

01:18:37.515 --> 01:18:38.745
And I was like, Oh, that's cool.

01:18:38.755 --> 01:18:43.715
So what ended up happening is, um,
we just, me, him, and, uh, another

01:18:43.795 --> 01:18:45.065
person, I think her name was Rhonda.

01:18:45.085 --> 01:18:46.025
She showed up as well.

01:18:46.025 --> 01:18:47.225
And we just all went for dinner.

01:18:47.845 --> 01:18:48.235
Awesome.

01:18:48.345 --> 01:18:51.015
We just, we just, me, Julia,
Zach, and Rhonda, we went out for

01:18:51.015 --> 01:18:53.885
dinner and, um, I just wanted to.

01:18:55.070 --> 01:18:58.990
Be there, not think about, cause I already
had an idea of what I was wanting to do.

01:18:59.060 --> 01:19:02.600
And I knew I would at least need
three to four weeks of recovery time.

01:19:02.940 --> 01:19:04.980
So I'll worry about that later.

01:19:05.150 --> 01:19:06.540
Today we're in Victoria, man.

01:19:06.570 --> 01:19:07.600
And we just did a thing.

01:19:08.190 --> 01:19:09.050
Let's have a nice meal.

01:19:09.060 --> 01:19:09.710
Let's hang out.

01:19:09.950 --> 01:19:11.790
And then, uh, we'll move on tomorrow.

01:19:13.320 --> 01:19:17.180
Travis Bader: So at
what point did the idea.

01:19:17.420 --> 01:19:18.830
Of coaching into your mind?

01:19:22.840 --> 01:19:26.050
Sachin Latti: So I've been a mentor
or coach in various different

01:19:26.050 --> 01:19:27.850
capacities for like 20 years.

01:19:27.970 --> 01:19:28.270
Right.

01:19:28.360 --> 01:19:32.020
Um, you know, from a bodybuilding
perspective, from in the workplace

01:19:32.020 --> 01:19:36.820
and in law enforcement, um, and just
in general with what I do, you know,

01:19:37.240 --> 01:19:38.650
uh, juujitsu and various things.

01:19:38.710 --> 01:19:38.800
Mm-hmm.

01:19:39.190 --> 01:19:41.920
. Now, having said that, I
never thought I was a coach.

01:19:42.730 --> 01:19:42.850
Yeah.

01:19:42.910 --> 01:19:45.820
I never believed in myself to be able
to deliver information in a manner

01:19:45.820 --> 01:19:47.560
that would be receptive to people.

01:19:48.040 --> 01:19:54.445
Um, but these are all things that
were, uh, That I've corrected

01:19:54.445 --> 01:19:55.775
over the last couple of years.

01:19:56.695 --> 01:20:02.785
And really the last year or so, I feel
like, you know, I have a little bit

01:20:02.785 --> 01:20:03.895
of knowledge and I can share that.

01:20:03.945 --> 01:20:07.345
So that's one aspect of why I
think I can, why I've entered

01:20:07.345 --> 01:20:09.225
this sort of, um, idea in my head.

01:20:10.075 --> 01:20:12.325
The other one was like, look, I'm,
I work for the federal government

01:20:13.045 --> 01:20:17.145
and, um, I want to be able to
continue doing what I'm doing.

01:20:17.875 --> 01:20:22.210
And I want to be able to do it, uh, in
a At a faster rate, and I want to be

01:20:22.210 --> 01:20:24.260
able to impact as many people as I can.

01:20:24.260 --> 01:20:27.270
And I want to be able to just
do a lot of positive things.

01:20:27.270 --> 01:20:30.810
So for me, I had to think of a
way to remove that safety net.

01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:34.930
And, uh, for me, I have a
safety net and I wanted to think

01:20:34.930 --> 01:20:36.200
about how do I remove that?

01:20:36.200 --> 01:20:37.570
So I can really freak out.

01:20:38.140 --> 01:20:43.360
And get super uncomfortable and start
really growing in another way, not just

01:20:43.360 --> 01:20:48.600
physically, but from an entrepreneurial,
from a mental, from a, every perspective

01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:50.980
that you can imagine in that space.

01:20:51.850 --> 01:20:58.420
So I thought, okay, what skills do I
have and how do I, how do I refine that?

01:20:58.430 --> 01:21:02.230
And how do I create something
that can sustain myself so I can

01:21:02.230 --> 01:21:03.450
continue doing what I'm doing?

01:21:04.185 --> 01:21:07.615
So I can continue doing what I'm
doing at a high level, and then also,

01:21:08.125 --> 01:21:09.795
um, help others at the same time.

01:21:10.075 --> 01:21:12.615
So that's where the
coaching came into mind.

01:21:13.555 --> 01:21:17.455
Now, what do I mean by
remove the safety net?

01:21:17.455 --> 01:21:19.475
Well, you know, I'm now
going to think about.

01:21:19.945 --> 01:21:21.985
And well, why would I remove a safety net?

01:21:22.445 --> 01:21:26.595
Well, because the safety net
is just keeping me complacent.

01:21:26.655 --> 01:21:28.945
I'm receiving money in a certain area and.

01:21:29.155 --> 01:21:29.975
It's still a net.

01:21:30.065 --> 01:21:31.055
It's still a net.

01:21:31.165 --> 01:21:39.055
And you know, the reality is I can, I
see, I just see a lot more growth for

01:21:39.055 --> 01:21:42.405
me doing something else without a net.

01:21:42.565 --> 01:21:42.815
So

01:21:42.825 --> 01:21:45.745
Travis Bader: this is the thing
that really got me excited when

01:21:45.745 --> 01:21:47.115
you, we were talking before.

01:21:47.115 --> 01:21:48.835
I was like, let's not talk about this.

01:21:49.205 --> 01:21:49.895
We got to record it.

01:21:49.895 --> 01:21:51.525
Cause I want it to be a genuine reaction.

01:21:51.525 --> 01:21:51.745
Yeah.

01:21:51.745 --> 01:21:51.945
Yeah.

01:21:53.165 --> 01:21:58.015
But you said for removing the safety
net, you'd be leaving law enforcement.

01:22:00.415 --> 01:22:02.665
And then focusing full efforts

01:22:03.085 --> 01:22:03.845
Sachin Latti: on.

01:22:04.235 --> 01:22:06.085
Coaching, coaching, coaching and training.

01:22:06.525 --> 01:22:06.935
That's it.

01:22:07.085 --> 01:22:07.505
That's it.

01:22:07.575 --> 01:22:14.115
Like, and, and look, and I'm, I want
to be able to learn how to be a really

01:22:14.115 --> 01:22:16.235
good coach through this process as well.

01:22:16.305 --> 01:22:19.495
And I want to deliver a high
level sort of information at a.

01:22:20.315 --> 01:22:21.185
Reasonable rate.

01:22:21.215 --> 01:22:23.125
And I think I, you know,
bring value to that.

01:22:23.125 --> 01:22:25.615
So that's kind of where I'm, I'm, I'm
going out and like, look, this may

01:22:25.625 --> 01:22:27.905
evolve into something else entirely.

01:22:27.935 --> 01:22:28.585
I have no clue.

01:22:29.085 --> 01:22:29.705
I have, I already

01:22:29.715 --> 01:22:30.405
Travis Bader: have ideas for you.

01:22:30.495 --> 01:22:30.845
Okay, great.

01:22:31.275 --> 01:22:31.565
But so,

01:22:31.995 --> 01:22:33.705
Sachin Latti: but I'm just
saying like, right, that's the

01:22:33.715 --> 01:22:35.535
initial sort of entry, right?

01:22:35.585 --> 01:22:39.515
And this will evolve and this will change
and this will do all kinds of things.

01:22:39.615 --> 01:22:40.395
I'm sure.

01:22:41.145 --> 01:22:44.965
I don't know whether it'll look
like, and my friend, Sean, kind

01:22:44.965 --> 01:22:47.975
of, I kind of function in some way.

01:22:48.230 --> 01:22:54.030
Similar to him, not nearly as close,
but in the sense of, um, you know, I set

01:22:54.030 --> 01:22:56.810
a goal, I have no clarity whatsoever.

01:22:57.390 --> 01:23:00.860
And I just moved down that path until
the clarity starts showing up to me.

01:23:01.630 --> 01:23:09.740
So that uncertainty, that, um, chaos,
that all of those things, even though

01:23:09.810 --> 01:23:11.980
I don't feel good and it sucks.

01:23:12.540 --> 01:23:16.010
I do my best in that
environment, if that makes sense.

01:23:16.010 --> 01:23:18.480
So like, for me, I, I
don't like this feeling.

01:23:19.590 --> 01:23:21.510
Where am I going to pay my next bill?

01:23:21.900 --> 01:23:24.200
I don't like the feeling of,
oh, how am I going to do this

01:23:24.200 --> 01:23:25.560
thing or that thing or whatever.

01:23:26.020 --> 01:23:28.160
It feels uncomfortable,
just like anyone else.

01:23:29.040 --> 01:23:32.670
But I know I function well in that space.

01:23:32.670 --> 01:23:34.310
Now, before I didn't
really understand that.

01:23:34.320 --> 01:23:35.200
It just felt uncomfortable.

01:23:35.200 --> 01:23:35.800
I don't want to do it.

01:23:36.270 --> 01:23:39.245
Oh, but I, because of the things
that I've done and I've, I've.

01:23:39.505 --> 01:23:43.445
Entered in environments where, um,
there's been tons of uncertainty and

01:23:43.445 --> 01:23:47.235
I've been successful and I've actually,
I've been thriving in those environments.

01:23:47.275 --> 01:23:49.335
I'm like, Oh, I get it.

01:23:50.115 --> 01:23:54.775
I kind of need that to really get
better as who I am as a person, if

01:23:54.775 --> 01:23:56.425
that makes any sense at all, whatever.

01:23:57.045 --> 01:23:57.195
You

01:23:57.195 --> 01:24:02.755
Travis Bader: know, I think obviously from
a physical standpoint, from a physical

01:24:02.855 --> 01:24:05.115
conditioning, you've had years of.

01:24:05.890 --> 01:24:08.160
Other coaches and
information and knowledge.

01:24:08.170 --> 01:24:11.190
And this would be an ultimate life
hack for somebody to be able to,

01:24:11.240 --> 01:24:12.550
I want to do something physical.

01:24:13.060 --> 01:24:14.160
What, what clothing do I wear?

01:24:14.160 --> 01:24:14.960
What shoes do I wear?

01:24:14.960 --> 01:24:16.100
What, what's my diet look like?

01:24:16.100 --> 01:24:16.890
What's my training schedule?

01:24:16.890 --> 01:24:20.030
Like those things will just be like
top of your head, super easy for you.

01:24:20.830 --> 01:24:22.600
The, I think.

01:24:23.470 --> 01:24:27.440
Biggest transferable skill that you
can help people with more than anything

01:24:27.440 --> 01:24:30.070
would be the mental management process.

01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:34.070
I know we've had Ryan Stacey on here
in the past and he's a, what was it?

01:24:34.210 --> 01:24:39.810
Five, six time, uh, service rifle
champion over and over, keeps winning

01:24:39.810 --> 01:24:43.250
and he attributes it to the mental
management process and how that's

01:24:43.320 --> 01:24:46.770
applicable to sports, to business,
to all these different areas.

01:24:47.100 --> 01:24:50.940
And so many people like want
to play basketball, right?

01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:54.050
They say, oh, you know, it's
a 90 percent mental 10 percent

01:24:54.050 --> 01:24:55.820
doing or shooting is 90%.

01:24:55.820 --> 01:24:57.760
And they come up these skewed stats.

01:24:57.760 --> 01:25:02.140
I don't know where they come up with
them, but they all seem to recognize

01:25:02.210 --> 01:25:06.430
how heavy the mental side is yet you
go see a coach and what do they do?

01:25:06.910 --> 01:25:09.720
They spend all of their
time on the physical sides.

01:25:10.265 --> 01:25:13.885
And maybe that's because that's an
easier quantifiable way for people

01:25:13.885 --> 01:25:16.485
to, uh, see action from the coach.

01:25:18.605 --> 01:25:22.985
But I honestly think what you've been
learning on the mental management process

01:25:22.995 --> 01:25:25.695
is something that'll transcend all of
those things, and it would be worth a

01:25:25.695 --> 01:25:30.215
lot of money for people to just life
hack that, spend some time with you.

01:25:30.915 --> 01:25:34.765
And go over where they're at right now
and say, how would you deal with this

01:25:34.765 --> 01:25:39.695
such, and what would you do, um, give
me some tips and tricks of how you

01:25:40.575 --> 01:25:43.375
overcame obstacles, adversity, difficulty.

01:25:43.375 --> 01:25:49.585
I, I think that's where the, um, uh,
I think that's the area where a person

01:25:49.585 --> 01:25:51.055
could really separate themselves from

01:25:51.195 --> 01:25:51.435
Sachin Latti: the competition.

01:25:51.495 --> 01:25:53.055
Look, man, I agree a hundred percent.

01:25:53.085 --> 01:25:59.465
And, um, and like you said, the, um,
the customizable nutrition, customizable

01:25:59.495 --> 01:26:04.075
training, all these types of things,
easy peasy from in comparison to

01:26:04.085 --> 01:26:06.415
some other things, like I can, I
can kind of write those things up.

01:26:07.135 --> 01:26:07.585
Decently.

01:26:07.595 --> 01:26:07.725
Yeah.

01:26:08.395 --> 01:26:09.395
Um, you're right.

01:26:09.395 --> 01:26:13.705
It's the mindset and, and I kind of steal
a little bit of Sean's thunder here and,

01:26:13.715 --> 01:26:15.775
and, and some of the things that he says.

01:26:15.775 --> 01:26:18.855
And, and I agree with,
and I'll just say it too.

01:26:19.425 --> 01:26:22.415
Um, everything is when
it comes to physical.

01:26:23.465 --> 01:26:26.165
Really anything is 90 percent
mental and 10 percent mental.

01:26:26.615 --> 01:26:27.445
It's all mental.

01:26:27.955 --> 01:26:29.045
Everything is mental.

01:26:29.105 --> 01:26:30.645
A hundred percent of it's mental.

01:26:31.085 --> 01:26:35.435
And the reality, how I know that
is because of, through my own lived

01:26:35.435 --> 01:26:37.735
experience, the things that I've done.

01:26:37.765 --> 01:26:41.205
And then also the things that I've
been, that I've seen other people

01:26:41.205 --> 01:26:45.185
do think that they've never thought
possible and not even anything crazy.

01:26:45.185 --> 01:26:49.395
So for example, um, I think it was
like day 18 or 19, I was in and around

01:26:49.395 --> 01:26:52.915
the Maple Ridge area running marathons
and a couple of friends joined.

01:26:54.090 --> 01:26:58.350
Actually three of us, it was me, Julia,
Travis, uh, another buddy, Travis.

01:26:58.350 --> 01:26:58.450
Yeah.

01:26:58.460 --> 01:27:01.830
Uh, he's a firefighter
in, in, um, in Surrey.

01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:02.380
And I'd be okay if

01:27:02.390 --> 01:27:04.550
Travis Bader: people thought that
I was beside you, that's okay.

01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:05.120
But it was

01:27:05.120 --> 01:27:05.530
Sachin Latti: Travis.

01:27:05.710 --> 01:27:08.790
He also has a, he has a
nice, uh, uh, side gig.

01:27:08.790 --> 01:27:12.100
He does these awesome Yeti tip
coolers, but it's called Haruki.

01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:12.860
Okay.

01:27:12.860 --> 01:27:13.170
Yeah.

01:27:13.170 --> 01:27:13.180
Yeah.

01:27:13.380 --> 01:27:17.400
So Travis, he's a Surrey firefighter
and his, his partner is, uh, is

01:27:17.410 --> 01:27:19.520
working to become a counselor anyway.

01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:21.190
So they showed up, right.

01:27:21.880 --> 01:27:23.270
I'm running 42 kilometers.

01:27:23.370 --> 01:27:24.040
That's happening.

01:27:24.265 --> 01:27:29.885
So Julia wanted to run event that day,
22, you know, run 11, then run another 11.

01:27:29.895 --> 01:27:31.255
She hadn't done that in quite some time.

01:27:32.835 --> 01:27:36.755
And who's Travis's partner
wanted to run five.

01:27:36.845 --> 01:27:37.635
That was her plan.

01:27:38.585 --> 01:27:41.045
And she didn't expect to
run anything more, nothing.

01:27:41.435 --> 01:27:44.235
And when she showed up, I'll
go, no, you'll run more.

01:27:45.490 --> 01:27:46.590
She's like, I'm not prepared.

01:27:46.590 --> 01:27:47.470
I can't, it'd be good.

01:27:48.360 --> 01:27:51.150
So we ended up running through the
process and she like, at the end

01:27:51.150 --> 01:27:52.350
of it, she ended up running 11.

01:27:52.570 --> 01:27:52.840
Right.

01:27:53.080 --> 01:27:53.640
Good for her.

01:27:53.940 --> 01:27:54.270
Yeah.

01:27:54.290 --> 01:27:55.870
And, but really it was all mindset.

01:27:55.960 --> 01:27:56.140
Yeah.

01:27:56.200 --> 01:27:59.090
It wasn't anything had to do
with her physical capacity,

01:27:59.140 --> 01:28:00.930
physical capabilities, zero.

01:28:01.940 --> 01:28:06.770
So it was just the right sort of
mindset, the right sort of coaching

01:28:06.800 --> 01:28:11.150
in those small little moments to
let her know that, Hey man, you're

01:28:11.170 --> 01:28:13.380
actually can probably do a lot more.

01:28:13.510 --> 01:28:17.680
So for example, like, uh, I was
speaking to Ian, who's my new client

01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:21.960
this morning, he's never run 60
kilometers before he's run a marathon

01:28:21.960 --> 01:28:25.470
before, but sometimes some people
may think I've only done a marathon.

01:28:25.480 --> 01:28:27.200
I don't know if I can get to that 60, bro.

01:28:27.210 --> 01:28:27.970
Have you run a marathon?

01:28:28.180 --> 01:28:29.890
60 is a wrap right now.

01:28:30.600 --> 01:28:31.460
You can do it right now.

01:28:32.630 --> 01:28:35.900
Like it's legitimate, like, yeah, a
hundred percent right now, you can do it.

01:28:36.000 --> 01:28:36.650
Just slow down.

01:28:37.150 --> 01:28:39.120
Well, you slow down or it's
just the mindset because you've

01:28:39.120 --> 01:28:41.610
already set a cap on yourself
because you can't go more than 42.

01:28:41.610 --> 01:28:45.120
But if you're going to run
42, 18 isn't that much more

01:28:45.150 --> 01:28:47.020
if you're able to manage it.

01:28:47.540 --> 01:28:50.720
Now, if you're talking about speed,
well, that changes it a little bit,

01:28:50.940 --> 01:28:52.190
but you can still figure that out.

01:28:52.770 --> 01:28:56.520
The reality is man, like if you
think you can run 10, you can run 21.

01:28:58.585 --> 01:28:59.665
Your body's capable of it.

01:29:00.165 --> 01:29:02.775
Travis Bader: I remember
heading up, I think it was Wedge

01:29:02.775 --> 01:29:04.505
Mountain on this one, Jay Spud.

01:29:04.505 --> 01:29:07.085
He's doing his ACMG
mountain guide process.

01:29:07.085 --> 01:29:09.255
He's Vancouver Fire, ex British army.

01:29:10.095 --> 01:29:15.445
And, um, I'm like, oh my God, why are
we going up this mountain so slowly?

01:29:15.445 --> 01:29:17.035
It was like step, step.

01:29:17.105 --> 01:29:23.635
We've got our packs and our gear
and axes and, um, ice screws and

01:29:23.775 --> 01:29:25.295
ropes and everything that we have.

01:29:25.295 --> 01:29:28.545
We're coming up to the, uh, uh,
the base camp, but before you

01:29:28.555 --> 01:29:30.450
know it, I was at the base camp.

01:29:30.500 --> 01:29:32.710
I didn't get winded
once I wasn't sweating.

01:29:32.750 --> 01:29:35.950
I was like right as rain
like, man, I'm good to go.

01:29:35.980 --> 01:29:38.710
Get a couple hours sleep, get an
Alpine start, get up this mountain.

01:29:39.220 --> 01:29:43.550
And it's just finding that pace.

01:29:43.550 --> 01:29:45.820
I find going with somebody
who's experienced enough.

01:29:46.315 --> 01:29:48.145
Like I would go up, I'm
like, okay, let's go.

01:29:48.145 --> 01:29:52.505
And I'd be huffing it up the mountain
and wheezing and, and feeling

01:29:52.505 --> 01:29:53.765
it, but not being in the front.

01:29:53.765 --> 01:29:54.515
So no one could see.

01:29:55.065 --> 01:29:55.475
Well, that's the,

01:29:55.515 --> 01:29:58.515
Sachin Latti: I think that's
the point of the coach, right?

01:29:58.535 --> 01:29:58.925
Right.

01:29:58.965 --> 01:30:01.155
And that's the point of the
mentor, whatever term you

01:30:01.155 --> 01:30:02.185
want to give that person.

01:30:02.915 --> 01:30:07.655
It's their job is to observe the
person who's trying to achieve the

01:30:07.655 --> 01:30:11.225
thing and help them or facilitate
them to achieve the thing.

01:30:11.745 --> 01:30:12.625
And it was so easy.

01:30:12.645 --> 01:30:12.955
Travis Bader: Yeah.

01:30:12.975 --> 01:30:17.515
It was so damn easy when you're with
somebody and he's, you know, he practices

01:30:17.515 --> 01:30:21.495
his, the, the guide pace, he knows
the pitch, the distance, all the rest.

01:30:21.495 --> 01:30:22.175
And it was.

01:30:22.785 --> 01:30:25.385
What I thought was like,
why are we going so slow?

01:30:25.845 --> 01:30:26.715
Sachin Latti: So you can get there.

01:30:26.765 --> 01:30:27.065
Right.

01:30:27.225 --> 01:30:30.095
And here's the thing too, man,
like when you're doing something

01:30:30.135 --> 01:30:33.085
on your own, that adds to the
mental bandwidth and the stress.

01:30:33.085 --> 01:30:37.485
So that also adds to the fatigue
and exhaustion during the process.

01:30:37.515 --> 01:30:39.565
Cause you're uncertain
of how to tackle it.

01:30:40.375 --> 01:30:43.555
But if you're prepared in advance
and you have an understanding of what

01:30:43.555 --> 01:30:47.455
you're tackling, all those stressors
start reducing, even if you are alone.

01:30:48.270 --> 01:30:49.650
Um, because now you understand it.

01:30:49.690 --> 01:30:52.580
And then look, you've probably
done a ton of hikes and a lot of

01:30:52.580 --> 01:30:54.930
them that are difficult and on
different camps and all these things.

01:30:54.940 --> 01:30:58.130
So you have that to fall back
upon because you've done other

01:30:58.130 --> 01:30:59.210
things that are more difficult.

01:30:59.290 --> 01:30:59.560
Right.

01:30:59.610 --> 01:31:02.090
And as soon as you can realize
that, then the thing that you're

01:31:02.100 --> 01:31:06.300
currently in, even though it is
difficult, it's not going to kill you.

01:31:06.620 --> 01:31:10.200
And if it's not going to kill
you, well, what's the problem?

01:31:10.430 --> 01:31:10.550
That's

01:31:10.550 --> 01:31:10.760
Travis Bader: right.

01:31:10.870 --> 01:31:11.460
Let's keep going.

01:31:11.790 --> 01:31:12.130
Right.

01:31:12.190 --> 01:31:12.790
Let's keep going.

01:31:12.910 --> 01:31:13.070
Yeah.

01:31:13.170 --> 01:31:14.940
Have you spoken about this
on the collective yet?

01:31:16.090 --> 01:31:16.570
Sachin Latti: No, not yet.

01:31:16.600 --> 01:31:20.360
No, I haven't really, you're the
first person that I've spoken to

01:31:20.370 --> 01:31:22.240
like in this kind of environment.

01:31:22.260 --> 01:31:26.160
I think I posted it on my Instagram,
um, and you know, people liked

01:31:26.160 --> 01:31:30.270
it and whatever else, but, um,
no, I haven't spoken at all.

01:31:30.720 --> 01:31:31.070
Travis Bader: Wow.

01:31:31.100 --> 01:31:31.640
There you go.

01:31:31.730 --> 01:31:32.210
Breaking.

01:31:32.280 --> 01:31:32.460
Sachin Latti: Yeah.

01:31:32.600 --> 01:31:33.430
Breaking news, man.

01:31:33.430 --> 01:31:33.950
Breaking news.

01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:34.510
There we go.

01:31:34.540 --> 01:31:36.220
It's actually been over the last.

01:31:36.405 --> 01:31:37.165
Six days.

01:31:38.095 --> 01:31:38.805
What day is it today?

01:31:38.805 --> 01:31:41.325
Thursday, it's been seven days since
I've actually thought about this.

01:31:41.865 --> 01:31:45.625
So as soon as I got back, I was thinking
about what to do, how to do it, how to

01:31:46.655 --> 01:31:48.185
do all the things that I want to do.

01:31:49.065 --> 01:31:53.725
And it requires me to remove a safety
net, enter in a space where I love to be.

01:31:54.185 --> 01:31:59.085
I want to be able to see people grow
and want to see people do awesome stuff.

01:31:59.195 --> 01:32:03.425
And I, and even if it's awesome
for them, it doesn't have to be

01:32:03.435 --> 01:32:06.335
my, whatever I think is awesome,
whatever's awesome for them, man.

01:32:06.335 --> 01:32:12.115
I, I get stoked at seeing people,
um, achieve their goals and then

01:32:12.155 --> 01:32:13.925
see what's possible for them.

01:32:13.925 --> 01:32:15.465
And that kind of pumps me up.

01:32:16.155 --> 01:32:16.335
Yeah.

01:32:16.335 --> 01:32:17.275
Travis Bader: I think that's really cool.

01:32:17.810 --> 01:32:19.900
I know like Seb, he removed a safety net.

01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:22.560
He's working on, on something as well.

01:32:22.580 --> 01:32:25.210
And there's, there's always going
to be that challenge, right?

01:32:25.220 --> 01:32:26.970
You're doing something brand new.

01:32:28.760 --> 01:32:36.270
He has no, uh, limit that I can see to the
amount of inspiration and the amount of

01:32:36.320 --> 01:32:38.220
knowledge that he can share with people.

01:32:38.530 --> 01:32:39.030
It's awesome.

01:32:39.240 --> 01:32:39.690
Oh yeah.

01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:43.130
Uh, it's massive, but breaking
out into a brand new realm.

01:32:43.590 --> 01:32:48.970
He's very fortunate to be surrounded
by other savages in the industry

01:32:48.970 --> 01:32:54.910
who have traveled similar paths of
being an entrepreneur and can, can

01:32:54.910 --> 01:32:56.870
share their thoughts and their ideas.

01:32:57.320 --> 01:33:01.880
Um, do you have that, do you have those
sort of, uh, connections or resources?

01:33:02.280 --> 01:33:05.660
Sachin Latti: I do now over the
last few years, because I've been

01:33:05.660 --> 01:33:07.080
doing things that are positive.

01:33:07.690 --> 01:33:14.680
I've been creating a life that, um, that
may, like I was talking about when the

01:33:14.690 --> 01:33:18.340
Chad Wright example, the mentor thing,
you got to put yourself in an environment

01:33:18.340 --> 01:33:20.670
where people start turning around and
saying, Oh, what's going on over there.

01:33:21.225 --> 01:33:21.615
Okay.

01:33:21.975 --> 01:33:24.805
And then now I can maybe,
um, contact someone saying,

01:33:24.805 --> 01:33:25.715
Hey, this is what I'm doing.

01:33:25.725 --> 01:33:27.295
And they're like, yeah, tell me more.

01:33:27.825 --> 01:33:32.155
But if they hadn't done certain things
and if I hadn't entered in the arena,

01:33:32.635 --> 01:33:34.235
so to speak, cause Teddy Roosevelt.

01:33:34.555 --> 01:33:34.745
Yeah.

01:33:34.745 --> 01:33:35.435
The man in the arena.

01:33:35.475 --> 01:33:35.635
Yeah.

01:33:35.705 --> 01:33:38.595
So if I hadn't entered the
arena, then no one would.

01:33:39.150 --> 01:33:40.620
Like that would have no connections.

01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:43.790
So, you know, I'm sponsored by a
company called Magnum supplements.

01:33:43.850 --> 01:33:44.120
Yeah.

01:33:44.130 --> 01:33:44.780
I see the shirt.

01:33:44.810 --> 01:33:45.010
Yeah.

01:33:45.060 --> 01:33:45.260
Awesome.

01:33:45.260 --> 01:33:45.980
Oh yeah, that's right.

01:33:46.040 --> 01:33:46.350
Yes.

01:33:46.380 --> 01:33:49.280
Uh, um, I just picked it up
and also Lululemon, I'm also a

01:33:49.280 --> 01:33:51.760
Lululemon run ambassador and I
was signed the contract last year.

01:33:51.930 --> 01:33:52.460
Good for you.

01:33:52.470 --> 01:33:52.760
Yeah.

01:33:52.760 --> 01:33:57.930
So now I, um, I'm, um, um, um, basically
an ambassador for that company in

01:33:57.930 --> 01:34:03.220
the run capacity, which adds another
level of, uh, um, support I can

01:34:03.230 --> 01:34:04.590
give other people in that regard.

01:34:04.600 --> 01:34:04.860
Anyway.

01:34:04.860 --> 01:34:07.930
So having said that, um, well,
shoot, I lost my train of thought.

01:34:08.580 --> 01:34:09.290
What was I saying?

01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:10.210
Travis Bader: It happens.

01:34:10.350 --> 01:34:11.040
It happens.

01:34:11.060 --> 01:34:11.310
Yeah.

01:34:11.350 --> 01:34:14.230
I'm too busy writing these two things
down as you're, uh, as you're talking.

01:34:14.240 --> 01:34:17.890
Sachin Latti: But, uh, but in terms of
the, the coaching piece, um, yeah, I just

01:34:17.890 --> 01:34:22.110
started thinking about it and I think, you
know, I thought, let's see what happens.

01:34:23.270 --> 01:34:24.540
Oh, you were saying the connections.

01:34:24.700 --> 01:34:24.980
Yes.

01:34:24.990 --> 01:34:25.790
So the connection pieces.

01:34:25.790 --> 01:34:29.170
So Marcus, uh, he was, he, he, I
think he may have just recently

01:34:29.170 --> 01:34:31.620
sold the company, but I think
he's still a good friend of mine.

01:34:32.110 --> 01:34:35.040
And so I hit him up and I was
like, Hey man, so I'm thinking

01:34:35.040 --> 01:34:35.800
about doing this thing.

01:34:35.810 --> 01:34:38.010
Do you know anyone that can kind
of point me in the right direction

01:34:38.010 --> 01:34:42.020
of how to kind of administratively
and logistically kind of.

01:34:42.100 --> 01:34:43.440
Help me start this.

01:34:44.130 --> 01:34:45.990
And so he pointed me
in the right direction.

01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:49.000
Now I'm working with a company
that's going to help support at

01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:53.850
least the beginning parts of me
understanding how to properly do this.

01:34:54.460 --> 01:34:57.770
And the company is called,
uh, TRM it's based out East.

01:34:58.620 --> 01:35:02.450
And what they do is basically help
fitness professionals and coaches and

01:35:03.100 --> 01:35:08.760
scale their business so that they can be
self sufficient at home without having

01:35:08.760 --> 01:35:10.690
to work in a gym and things like that.

01:35:11.050 --> 01:35:15.320
So I'm working with this company now
to really help me understand sales.

01:35:16.185 --> 01:35:22.025
Um, and help me understand how to properly
value what I'm doing, because these

01:35:22.025 --> 01:35:25.745
are things that would just, I've been
doing it anyways for free for people,

01:35:25.915 --> 01:35:28.655
like I've been just helped, like I have
another buddy of mine based out East.

01:35:29.285 --> 01:35:31.815
Uh, he's, uh, he's
currently in the reserves.

01:35:31.815 --> 01:35:32.885
He's also a lawyer.

01:35:32.925 --> 01:35:36.725
Um, he was struggling himself with
mental health issues and, and, um, his

01:35:36.725 --> 01:35:39.295
wife, um, passed away not too long ago.

01:35:39.535 --> 01:35:42.825
So he was dealing with a lot of
that and depression and he ended

01:35:42.825 --> 01:35:44.555
up gaining a ton of weight and.

01:35:44.860 --> 01:35:46.210
In excess of 300 pounds.

01:35:46.210 --> 01:35:50.920
And so I met with him, you know,
just through social media and we

01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:54.670
connected and I think last year
and we just had conversations.

01:35:54.670 --> 01:35:58.290
And then earlier this year, I kind
of helped him out by putting him

01:35:58.290 --> 01:36:03.370
on a, on a bit of a plan and he's
already down, you know, 45 pounds.

01:36:03.370 --> 01:36:07.760
And, and now I've, uh, hit him up
again to say, you know what, let's,

01:36:07.820 --> 01:36:12.200
let's make this more of a structure
so we can get you really picking

01:36:12.200 --> 01:36:13.190
up the pace a little bit more.

01:36:13.660 --> 01:36:15.840
So, you know, people like
that have been helping with.

01:36:16.175 --> 01:36:17.005
Just anyways.

01:36:17.015 --> 01:36:22.655
So I thought, you know, let's continue
helping and look, I'm not looking to look.

01:36:22.655 --> 01:36:25.655
I mean, anybody who wants,
you know, support and whatever

01:36:25.655 --> 01:36:26.625
endeavor they're trying to do.

01:36:26.665 --> 01:36:27.035
Great.

01:36:27.055 --> 01:36:30.925
But I want to work with certain types of
people and people who are passionate and

01:36:30.925 --> 01:36:34.885
people who want to achieve something for
themselves and for people around them.

01:36:35.345 --> 01:36:39.715
So, you know, if, if it's in that
sort of space, then I'm cool with it.

01:36:40.350 --> 01:36:44.180
If it's someone who wants to, you
know, maybe doesn't have that sort

01:36:44.180 --> 01:36:47.800
of way of thinking, then, you know,
maybe I'll pass, but I want to work

01:36:47.800 --> 01:36:51.160
with certain types of people and I
want to see if I can help in that way.

01:36:51.160 --> 01:36:54.770
And really, to be honest, those
types of people help me and

01:36:54.780 --> 01:36:56.240
helps me become a better person.

01:36:56.300 --> 01:36:57.140
And it helps me.

01:36:57.430 --> 01:36:59.120
Learn how to become a better coach.

01:36:59.120 --> 01:37:01.360
Cause now if I'm going to be doing
this, I want to be good at it.

01:37:01.700 --> 01:37:02.120
Totally.

01:37:02.130 --> 01:37:03.230
And it's a new space for me.

01:37:03.230 --> 01:37:06.260
So I have to understand the
nuances associated to it.

01:37:06.260 --> 01:37:07.830
So now I'm learning a new thing.

01:37:07.900 --> 01:37:08.130
Yeah.

01:37:08.850 --> 01:37:10.050
Travis Bader: Have you
thought about writing a book?

01:37:10.420 --> 01:37:11.040
These,

01:37:11.190 --> 01:37:12.680
Sachin Latti: look, I've
thought of a ton of things, bro.

01:37:13.020 --> 01:37:14.840
Um, and they're all on the docket.

01:37:14.840 --> 01:37:17.320
It's just a matter of when's the
right time to do these things.

01:37:17.320 --> 01:37:20.910
And, and, um, there is a time
and place for all these things.

01:37:20.910 --> 01:37:24.560
And I think perhaps after a
couple more years, that'll happen.

01:37:25.070 --> 01:37:25.550
You know,

01:37:26.480 --> 01:37:27.170
Travis Bader: I would think.

01:37:27.340 --> 01:37:33.280
If the, uh, the desire is there, even
documented the process anyways, speaking

01:37:33.280 --> 01:37:39.040
into your, your phone or into a microphone
or whatever, and having that transcribed

01:37:39.040 --> 01:37:45.770
through Descript, thrown into a PDF,
uploaded to AI, get, get the bones of the,

01:37:45.900 --> 01:37:51.170
of a book together, and then a lecture
circuit where you, uh, say the same.

01:37:51.545 --> 01:37:54.695
Same four or five things over and
over, but people will come back cause

01:37:54.695 --> 01:37:55.965
they'll hear it in a different way.

01:37:55.965 --> 01:37:57.465
They'll learn different things from there.

01:37:57.515 --> 01:38:02.965
And I would think that that would, um,
from my standpoint, looking at you, it

01:38:02.975 --> 01:38:04.805
looks like the natural progression is kind

01:38:04.805 --> 01:38:05.445
Sachin Latti: of where you're going.

01:38:05.475 --> 01:38:06.065
I agree, man.

01:38:06.065 --> 01:38:09.955
And that's kind of been, um, my thought
process even over a year ago, right?

01:38:09.995 --> 01:38:10.185
Yeah.

01:38:10.615 --> 01:38:14.685
My ideas have been, um, I don't,
I think if you're tracking, you're

01:38:14.685 --> 01:38:18.445
paying attention to what I'm doing, you
can kind of see where the end result

01:38:18.465 --> 01:38:22.205
will be for me, at least in terms of
what I will do on a regular basis.

01:38:22.365 --> 01:38:26.515
I just want to speak to people, share my
experiences, if that helps someone cool.

01:38:26.875 --> 01:38:30.685
Um, you know, I was talking to another
friend of mine yesterday, actually,

01:38:30.685 --> 01:38:35.625
and he lives in the Langley area and,
um, he notices in the Indo Canadian

01:38:35.625 --> 01:38:37.565
community, the younger kids are.

01:38:38.180 --> 01:38:40.230
You know, and that's community
specifically are dealing with some

01:38:40.290 --> 01:38:44.350
issues as it relates to drugs and
gangs and, and things of that nature.

01:38:44.350 --> 01:38:48.190
And so he's looking at starting up
a boys club in the Surrey area and

01:38:48.190 --> 01:38:49.730
the Newton area and places like that.

01:38:50.350 --> 01:38:55.160
And, you know, I was also volunteering
at the East end boys club and I would

01:38:55.200 --> 01:38:56.400
kind of speak there a little bit.

01:38:56.400 --> 01:38:59.140
So just sharing some, my
experience, if that helps some

01:38:59.850 --> 01:39:01.840
kids, then yeah, I'll do that too.

01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:03.500
But, um, but I think.

01:39:04.145 --> 01:39:08.275
To your point, I can see that
eventually happening to a certain

01:39:08.275 --> 01:39:12.345
degree where I'm traveling around
and having a chat every now and then.

01:39:13.705 --> 01:39:16.795
Travis Bader: What an amazing lifestyle
and you're building it for yourself.

01:39:16.795 --> 01:39:18.045
Just one brick at a time.

01:39:18.315 --> 01:39:19.155
Yeah, I think

01:39:19.155 --> 01:39:19.365
Sachin Latti: so.

01:39:19.365 --> 01:39:21.245
I think it's, it's been organic too.

01:39:21.245 --> 01:39:23.525
It's not like, oh, I want to be
a coach and I want to do that.

01:39:23.985 --> 01:39:29.005
It's just been organic and it's just
been, you know, it's been very organic.

01:39:29.005 --> 01:39:32.285
I'm still not going to change any
of the running goals that I have.

01:39:32.285 --> 01:39:36.045
And really that really will actually help.

01:39:37.045 --> 01:39:40.935
Complete what I'm trying to do in
terms of like, uh, how do I want to

01:39:40.935 --> 01:39:46.095
serve even after I'm not physically
capable of doing certain types

01:39:46.095 --> 01:39:48.315
of things, I want to still serve.

01:39:48.615 --> 01:39:50.235
I still want to be helpful.

01:39:50.435 --> 01:39:51.535
That's never going to change.

01:39:51.535 --> 01:39:56.345
So I'm thinking also succession
planning for myself, right?

01:39:56.425 --> 01:39:58.465
Like in 10 years, what
do I want to be doing?

01:39:58.935 --> 01:40:00.585
Cause in 10 years, maybe I'm not running.

01:40:00.615 --> 01:40:01.435
Maybe I want to.

01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:03.280
Maybe I have a podcast.

01:40:03.280 --> 01:40:05.330
Maybe, maybe I'm speaking on a Ted talk.

01:40:05.330 --> 01:40:05.590
I mean, I

01:40:05.590 --> 01:40:06.080
Travis Bader: don't know.

01:40:06.610 --> 01:40:07.270
I could see that.

01:40:07.330 --> 01:40:08.290
I see that in your future.

01:40:08.300 --> 01:40:08.530
Yeah.

01:40:08.570 --> 01:40:08.640
I

01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:10.740
Sachin Latti: mean, I,
you know, and thank you.

01:40:10.740 --> 01:40:11.580
I appreciate it.

01:40:11.660 --> 01:40:16.560
And the, the, the, the vote of confidence
that I've been getting from people that

01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:19.670
I respect is, is a very helpful for me.

01:40:19.710 --> 01:40:24.790
And, um, but I know it's also a negative
thing for me because I've always been a

01:40:24.790 --> 01:40:27.020
person of seeking external validation.

01:40:27.570 --> 01:40:32.280
And now at the place I'm at now, I don't
seek it as much because, because I've.

01:40:32.565 --> 01:40:34.325
Built a bit of it in myself now.

01:40:34.325 --> 01:40:37.695
So I believe in myself, whereas I
don't seek out that external much, any

01:40:37.785 --> 01:40:41.325
as much anymore, but I still kind of,
still kind of reach for it every now and

01:40:41.325 --> 01:40:41.455
Travis Bader: then.

01:40:41.515 --> 01:40:46.355
Well, I think the, and I get it, I get,
you know, seeking external validation and

01:40:46.415 --> 01:40:48.035
looking at these things because I'm like.

01:40:48.640 --> 01:40:52.020
I'll look at the charts and how the
podcast is doing and where things are at.

01:40:52.020 --> 01:40:55.480
Not because I'm looking for that external
validation, but because I look at it

01:40:55.480 --> 01:41:00.020
as a metric to where I was, where I'm
going, am I bringing value to the guests?

01:41:00.020 --> 01:41:01.820
Am I being bringing value to the audience?

01:41:02.320 --> 01:41:07.530
Um, I see you as being able to do
a Ted talk right now, honestly,

01:41:07.940 --> 01:41:10.240
we've had Ted talk alumni.

01:41:10.605 --> 01:41:12.855
On the Silvercore podcast of the past.

01:41:13.285 --> 01:41:20.075
I, I, I view this as you saying
it's only 18 kilometers more, right?

01:41:20.555 --> 01:41:21.465
You've already done this.

01:41:21.475 --> 01:41:22.335
You've talked here.

01:41:22.385 --> 01:41:22.705
Yeah.

01:41:22.735 --> 01:41:24.175
You can do the extra 18 kilometers.

01:41:24.175 --> 01:41:24.785
Sachin Latti: That's not a problem.

01:41:24.795 --> 01:41:25.285
Well, you know what?

01:41:25.285 --> 01:41:28.505
And then now that you've planted
that seed in my head, now maybe it'll

01:41:28.505 --> 01:41:31.495
start growing and we'll start thinking
about it and start actioning things.

01:41:31.495 --> 01:41:34.775
Cause you know, I do have time
for now in terms of organizing and

01:41:34.775 --> 01:41:38.685
planning and writing and thinking
and reflecting over the last 22.

01:41:38.830 --> 01:41:39.460
30 days.

01:41:40.070 --> 01:41:43.930
And to your point, actually about
the, the reach and, you know, this

01:41:43.930 --> 01:41:47.250
was kind of a interesting thing for
me to see and to track the metrics

01:41:47.250 --> 01:41:50.490
of my social media actually, and
just based on Instagram alone.

01:41:50.490 --> 01:41:55.650
And for me, I can only look at my
metrics compared to my previous metrics.

01:41:55.650 --> 01:41:57.090
I don't know anyone else's metric.

01:41:57.100 --> 01:41:57.390
Right.

01:41:57.860 --> 01:41:58.620
They're irrelevant.

01:41:58.890 --> 01:41:59.130
Yeah.

01:41:59.130 --> 01:41:59.930
So for me, I just.

01:42:00.220 --> 01:42:06.050
Look at mine and it helps me understand,
Oh, wait, people are resonating now

01:42:06.060 --> 01:42:09.880
because like I don't have a huge social
media platform and, you know, in and

01:42:09.880 --> 01:42:16.260
around 4, 000 on my Instagram and, uh,
in the month of August, based on the run.

01:42:17.620 --> 01:42:20.780
An additional, over 500 followers
started following in August.

01:42:21.050 --> 01:42:21.550
Wow.

01:42:22.150 --> 01:42:23.900
And it's not like I didn't pay for that.

01:42:23.900 --> 01:42:27.190
It's just natural people coming
to my account and starting to

01:42:27.190 --> 01:42:28.800
follow based on what I'm doing.

01:42:29.240 --> 01:42:34.360
So that tells me that people think
what I'm doing is, um, important

01:42:34.700 --> 01:42:35.960
and it's resonating with them.

01:42:36.030 --> 01:42:36.750
Well, you're bringing them

01:42:36.760 --> 01:42:37.210
Travis Bader: value.

01:42:37.270 --> 01:42:38.280
Yeah, it seems that way.

01:42:38.280 --> 01:42:38.530
Right.

01:42:38.530 --> 01:42:40.730
And you're sharing, they're
sharing that with others because

01:42:40.730 --> 01:42:42.210
he said, this brings me value.

01:42:42.755 --> 01:42:43.495
Watch this guy.

01:42:44.225 --> 01:42:44.495
Sachin Latti: Yeah.

01:42:44.495 --> 01:42:47.755
And so that one metric,
I was like, holy moly.

01:42:47.765 --> 01:42:51.135
So I started really opening up my
Instagram, uh, over the last, really

01:42:51.135 --> 01:42:54.455
in the month of August and really
the last few weeks, and it reached

01:42:54.455 --> 01:42:58.855
a peak of accounts engaged 46, 000.

01:42:59.285 --> 01:42:59.935
Holy crow.

01:42:59.975 --> 01:43:00.405
Yeah.

01:43:00.555 --> 01:43:04.175
And, and, and really pretty
much for most of that 22 days.

01:43:04.555 --> 01:43:08.335
And that, so when I started really diving
deeper into that, then it started seeing

01:43:08.335 --> 01:43:10.655
like, oh, wow, everyone's sharing it.

01:43:11.505 --> 01:43:13.185
A ton of people are sharing it.

01:43:13.245 --> 01:43:15.805
And then, uh, so it was a lot
of people that obviously I

01:43:15.805 --> 01:43:16.925
only have 4, 000 followers.

01:43:16.935 --> 01:43:17.930
So where are the other.

01:43:17.930 --> 01:43:20.260
40, 000 people come from, right?

01:43:20.610 --> 01:43:21.680
So there's people sharing it.

01:43:21.990 --> 01:43:25.120
And, um, so that got me thinking,
wow, that's pretty cool.

01:43:25.120 --> 01:43:28.890
So I was just looking in the over
close to 300, 000 impressions.

01:43:28.890 --> 01:43:33.540
And so anyways, not, so why am I
saying that it's, the reason why I'm

01:43:33.540 --> 01:43:36.500
saying is it helps me understand,
okay, I'm on the right path.

01:43:37.160 --> 01:43:38.300
I'm doing the right things.

01:43:38.890 --> 01:43:41.550
I'm now, I just have to do it better.

01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:43.050
And that's, that's kind
of what I'm thinking.

01:43:43.600 --> 01:43:46.880
Travis Bader: But it, you know, it also
speaks to the power of, of just the

01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:53.260
masses of everybody out there who's
watching, who says, I find value in this,

01:43:53.300 --> 01:43:59.170
what I'm listening to, I want to share
what such and as saying, um, and what a

01:43:59.170 --> 01:44:01.880
huge difference that makes when people.

01:44:02.295 --> 01:44:05.735
We'll share, subscribe, leave comments.

01:44:06.075 --> 01:44:08.825
They don't necessarily have to
do anything and leave money.

01:44:08.905 --> 01:44:09.595
Money's great.

01:44:09.615 --> 01:44:10.575
That's fantastic.

01:44:12.295 --> 01:44:15.005
But those simple pieces
are what's going to change.

01:44:15.005 --> 01:44:18.095
There's a guy over in
Ireland, um, King of chemo,

01:44:18.455 --> 01:44:19.035
Sachin Latti: have you read him?

01:44:19.045 --> 01:44:20.295
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

01:44:20.295 --> 01:44:20.815
Travis Bader: yes, yes.

01:44:20.865 --> 01:44:22.365
He's doing the exact same thing.

01:44:22.425 --> 01:44:24.475
And he says, look it, you
don't have to have money.

01:44:24.765 --> 01:44:29.485
My goal is before I die, he's been
diagnosed with terminal brain cancer.

01:44:29.585 --> 01:44:32.735
Before I die, I'm going
to try and raise as many.

01:44:33.380 --> 01:44:35.080
Eyes on me as possible.

01:44:35.470 --> 01:44:38.680
The money will come from the large
corporations who will benefit

01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:39.980
from having those eyes, right?

01:44:41.250 --> 01:44:44.100
And he's got what, like 2 million
people that are following him now?

01:44:44.290 --> 01:44:45.060
Sachin Latti: He's got a lot.

01:44:45.290 --> 01:44:48.730
And, and it's been climbing because over
the last couple of years, he was in the,

01:44:48.760 --> 01:44:50.010
you know, maybe like a hundred thousand.

01:44:50.010 --> 01:44:51.520
And now that's really rising.

01:44:51.520 --> 01:44:52.910
And I think that's awesome, man.

01:44:52.910 --> 01:44:54.420
And that's kind of what I'm.

01:44:54.575 --> 01:44:56.055
Tapping into a little bit, right.

01:44:56.095 --> 01:44:59.155
Cause I understand, again, I understand
how I look and understand how I

01:44:59.155 --> 01:45:02.285
speak and, you know, I'm kind of
doing something kind of fun, right.

01:45:02.285 --> 01:45:05.395
And it's entertaining and I'm
meeting with cool people and

01:45:05.405 --> 01:45:08.115
those cool people are pretty legit
and people want to see them too.

01:45:08.115 --> 01:45:11.665
And so it's just, um, I don't know.

01:45:11.675 --> 01:45:13.455
I'm just, I'm just having fun.

01:45:13.555 --> 01:45:14.955
I'm just doing what I like to do.

01:45:14.995 --> 01:45:20.745
And it seems to be, um, it seems to be
that people are enjoying it with me.

01:45:21.885 --> 01:45:23.535
Travis Bader: Is there anything
else we should be talking about

01:45:23.535 --> 01:45:24.715
before we look at wrapping up?

01:45:25.755 --> 01:45:27.305
Sachin Latti: Um, I don't know, man.

01:45:27.305 --> 01:45:32.085
I just, I'm glad that we had this awesome
conversation and we spoke about the 22

01:45:32.085 --> 01:45:33.735
and 22, which, um, you know, was awesome.

01:45:33.745 --> 01:45:39.845
We all raised in those 22 days,
just, uh, just over 16, 000 for

01:45:39.855 --> 01:45:44.385
the honor house society, which
is, Phenomenal and super awesome.

01:45:44.435 --> 01:45:49.955
And, um, I'm really happy that people
were able to find, find it within

01:45:49.955 --> 01:45:51.605
themselves to donate to the cause.

01:45:51.605 --> 01:45:53.715
And so I want to say
thank you to those people.

01:45:54.255 --> 01:45:56.365
I want to also say thank you to
anyone who's listening to this,

01:45:56.365 --> 01:45:57.825
who have been following me.

01:45:57.825 --> 01:45:58.335
Thank you.

01:45:58.335 --> 01:45:59.095
I appreciate it.

01:45:59.105 --> 01:46:00.065
Thank you for the follow.

01:46:00.065 --> 01:46:01.215
Thank you for the share.

01:46:01.215 --> 01:46:02.495
Thank you for the comments.

01:46:03.145 --> 01:46:05.715
And, um, you know, I'm just
going to continue doing this.

01:46:05.715 --> 01:46:10.835
I'm going to continue on this path and
continue as, uh, as much as I can to.

01:46:11.285 --> 01:46:13.455
Do my best and have fun along the way.

01:46:14.325 --> 01:46:16.155
Travis Bader: Well, such, and
thanks so much for coming back

01:46:16.155 --> 01:46:17.675
Sachin Latti: on this.

01:46:17.675 --> 01:46:18.445
I thought you'd go anytime.