WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to the Bible guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.480 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:15.800 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible. Guys. Wow, what was that? 5 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:17.399 I don't know, I know you're kind of like a rapper. 6 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:20.640 Now, Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible. Guys. Welcome to 7 00:00:20.679 --> 00:00:21.079 the Bible. 8 00:00:21.120 --> 00:00:21.399 Guys. 9 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:22.679 We love that you're here. 10 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:26.399 Yeah, okay, so you're a rapper, Like that's harsh crap, 11 00:00:26.600 --> 00:00:29.039 that's not rap, like the Fresh Prince. That's almost what's 12 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:31.839 more of a jingle? Yeah, okay, jingle Hey jingles being 13 00:00:31.920 --> 00:00:33.320 on the Jingles and Fresh Prince. 14 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:36.960 Wow, that's uh, that's that's something. 15 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.159 Well, that's about what you were doing right there. 16 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:39.719 Right. 17 00:00:40.479 --> 00:00:44.359 So hey, today we have an interesting segment two. 18 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:45.159 Hey smell you later. 19 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:48.759 And we've never done it before. We've done as a 20 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:51.439 new one. So we have done draft lists before, of course, 21 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:53.679 we've just never done a draft list like this, because 22 00:00:53.719 --> 00:00:55.960 what we're supposed to do is draft our dream concert 23 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:59.039 lineup with bands and performers who would create the perfect 24 00:00:59.079 --> 00:00:59.600 live show. 25 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:04.079 So it's a musician draft list, yes, apparently, and we do. 26 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:07.120 Rock paper scisors. Those first we just picked five. So 27 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:08.359 here's the question before we do it. 28 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:11.120 Are they Are they alive or dead? 29 00:01:12.280 --> 00:01:14.439 Do you think you're just doing your own band? She 30 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:16.480 didn't give any caveats, so you're free. 31 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:17.959 I could do dead. 32 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.519 It is it is. Yes, it's under grace, not the law. 33 00:01:22.680 --> 00:01:24.040 She doesn't give you any rules here. 34 00:01:24.519 --> 00:01:28.040 Okay, well, geez, that changes things of all time, of 35 00:01:28.159 --> 00:01:30.680 all time. Yes, it's way harder too. 36 00:01:30.840 --> 00:01:35.200 Okay, let's do rock papercisors ready, one two three? Shoot? 37 00:01:35.319 --> 00:01:37.799 Oh? We both went scissors one two three shoot. We 38 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:40.319 both went rock one two three shoot. We both went 39 00:01:40.439 --> 00:01:42.599 rock paper. 40 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:44.439 I got you, you got me. 41 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.840 Okay, that's so funny. So that's funny how we even 42 00:01:47.879 --> 00:01:50.799 think of like sometimes. Okay, so if we're going to go. 43 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:54.680 I don't know. I don't think. I don't think it's 44 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:56.519 fair if we go dead, it's so much harder. I 45 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:57.239 don't want to do dead. 46 00:01:57.640 --> 00:01:59.120 I think you should. I think you should just pick 47 00:01:59.239 --> 00:02:00.799 anybody you want, all. 48 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:04.640 Right, fine, anybody, fine, okay, any number body number one 49 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:07.920 Whitney Houston really, oh gosh, yeah. 50 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:10.800 Wow, that's the one that you were hedging your bets against. 51 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:11.360 Is Whitney. 52 00:02:11.840 --> 00:02:13.800 Well, I don't think that you would choose her at all. 53 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:19.599 But I absolutely think that she is the greatest female 54 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:20.639 singer of all time. 55 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:24.840 Wow, Okay, I do, wow, I do. I think she 56 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:26.479 had a couple of great songs. 57 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:30.560 I didn't say that. I said she's the greatest female 58 00:02:31.800 --> 00:02:32.080 So you. 59 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:33.919 Could have drafted her last and I still wasn't drafted, 60 00:02:33.960 --> 00:02:36.039 I know. So yeah, you got in there, you got in. 61 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:37.840 I'm going Jeff, sorry about me. 62 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:40.000 All right, So so this is going to show my 63 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:45.680 age a little bit. I would pick oh man, uh 64 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:47.719 bon Jovi? 65 00:02:48.319 --> 00:02:51.159 Oh yeah, sure, yeah, Jo that's great. 66 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:52.159 That's a good one. 67 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:55.759 But but prime bron Job Yeah yeah, yeah, not at all. 68 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:58.240 Hey they're still doing well for. 69 00:02:58.280 --> 00:03:00.919 Their age, right for the age, but Prime bon Jovi 70 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:03.919 is better, that's right. Yeah, okay, all right, I'm going 71 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:07.039 to say Johnny Cash. 72 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.840 Wow, so Whitney and Johnny. That's gonna be an interesting 73 00:03:11.039 --> 00:03:12.919 uh yeah yeah. 74 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:17.879 Well it's a perfect live show, yeah, Jim. 75 00:03:18.520 --> 00:03:22.560 Yep, Okay, let me see. I would there's a Christian musician. 76 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:26.120 It's my favorite singer from back in the days, retired 77 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:29.120 now but Michael English, oh favorite lead singer. 78 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:33.360 Wow, that is going into the archives right there. 79 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:37.159 Because nineties yep. Eighties and nineties, eighties and nineties. 80 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:41.599 Okay, I'm gonna go Gosh, I mean, it's a whole 81 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:42.759 new category when it's dead. 82 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:47.759 So I'm gonna go with I have to. It's Elvis Presley, Elvis, really, 83 00:03:47.879 --> 00:03:48.199 I have to. 84 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:50.400 So you have no living favorites right now? 85 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:54.680 No, the dead trump the living. Yes, I have living favorites. 86 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:59.039 I'm just saying, if we're if we're going those who passed. 87 00:03:58.800 --> 00:04:02.280 I'm picking all live singers on Jovi's still alive. So 88 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:05.319 I know English, but I'm saying, Okay, you're just choosing 89 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:09.360 your favorites. Okay, so you just favorite Elvis Presley, So Elvis, 90 00:04:09.759 --> 00:04:15.360 Johnny and Whitney Whitney Okay, where Elvis and Johnny related? 91 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:18.920 No, but listen, you do understand why I'm doing this 92 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:24.199 because there's no live singer that trumps my desire to 93 00:04:24.279 --> 00:04:25.439 see Johnny Cash. 94 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.959 Okay, Okay. I thought you're just assuming you're putting together 95 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.560 a concert lineup. Okay, Okay, I see that, all right? 96 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:33.439 Am I at number three? 97 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:34.560 Yes, you're at number three? 98 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:37.000 All right? I think I would get kicked out of 99 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:39.480 my house if I didn't say Celine Dion. 100 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:42.759 Oh yeah, sure, yeah, Celene Dion's phenomenal. 101 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:45.720 Yeah. My girls would put Selene above Whitney, and they 102 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:46.279 love Whitney. 103 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:51.279 Yeah yeah, yeah, well some people would, yeah, smart people. Yeah, 104 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:53.920 well you know, you know, I don't think so no, 105 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:54.959 go ahead, go ahead. 106 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:59.079 Okay, And then I tell you what, because you're giving 107 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:01.680 me pressure, I'm gonna go back to Uh, I'll go 108 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:04.680 to live And I wrote down a few notes here 109 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:06.600 just before the thing began. 110 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:08.079 I didn't even know we were doing this one. 111 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:10.399 Why didn't I didn't either till I get into the 112 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.000 May studio. Okay, I'm gonna go with Garth Brooks. 113 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:16.879 Garth Brooks. Yeah, well you've already sung some of his 114 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:19.800 songs here on the on the show. So yeah, yep, okay, 115 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:24.120 So Garth Brooks, all right, well that's my fourth one, right, Yes? 116 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:26.279 Who else am I going to go with? So this 117 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:34.399 is my fourth? Yep, boy, this is a tough one 118 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:36.480 for me. I have a hard time, you know what. 119 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:39.920 I'm just doing musicians at this point, right, yep. I'm 120 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:43.639 gonna say Chris Bodie, he's my favorite trumpet player. 121 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:48.319 Wow. Wow, Okay, that's that's uh, that's a choice. 122 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:52.079 Yeah, okay, And but he plays for all kinds of like, 123 00:05:52.319 --> 00:05:54.480 can you imagine if you've heard a trumpet player in 124 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:58.920 the last twenty years on any kind of significant pop thing. 125 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:02.240 Yeah, it's him, But can you imagine him following bun 126 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:06.680 Jovi now? And he's like, actually, how do I follow that? 127 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:09.120 Actually he does a lot of concerts with people like that. 128 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:11.519 So one of the yeah, one of the live concert 129 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.399 albums that he did while back, he has Vince Gill 130 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:18.279 and sting Are oh and uh and uh Stephen Perry, Oh, 131 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:21.959 Steve Perry, Stephen Tyler, Stephen Tyler. Yeah, so Steven Tyler. Yeah, 132 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:22.639 so it's just. 133 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:25.519 Well, okay, all right, So he's used to it, yep, 134 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:29.480 ask you, oh boy. 135 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:33.040 And then I think I've got I've got some notes here, 136 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:35.079 and it's hard to pick one. 137 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:41.000 Uh. So I've got like Carrie Underwood, Shania Twain, Billy Joel, 138 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:44.240 The Eagles, Journey, Tory Kelly, John Legend. 139 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:46.639 Oh you got to do toy Kelly. There's no doubt 140 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:49.560 you're obsessed with toy Kelly singing. 141 00:06:49.879 --> 00:06:50.120 Yeah. 142 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:53.920 Yeah, but but okay, go ahead, but according to Rank, 143 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:56.519 you just named like thirty according to Rank. 144 00:06:56.639 --> 00:07:00.800 I'm gonna say nobody beats Shania Twain for me. Okay, so, 145 00:07:01.600 --> 00:07:02.759 so Shania is my favorite. 146 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:05.439 Okay, so you've got You've got a couple of country singers. 147 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:07.879 In Garth and Shania our country and John and Johnny 148 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:08.920 and Johnny Original. 149 00:07:09.439 --> 00:07:13.199 Ye okay, then I'm going to say, so there's nobody 150 00:07:13.519 --> 00:07:16.759 when when things are really really stressful. For me, I 151 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:22.920 listened to Andrea. Yeah, so he's an Italian opera singer, right, Okay, 152 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:26.079 so I picked the jazz trumpeter and uh Italian. 153 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.399 Yeah, well we we are different. 154 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:35.279 We got in there and Celine Dionna there, Michael English Yeah, yeah, 155 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:36.759 oh yeah, he's my favorite, my. 156 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.800 Favorite, by the way. Back in the day, I phenomenal singers. 157 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:43.759 I loved Michael English. Yeah, for sure. I used to 158 00:07:43.800 --> 00:07:44.839 sing Michael English songs. 159 00:07:45.680 --> 00:07:49.879 Not like Michael English New New not at all. But 160 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:52.160 Tray sings a little bit like Michael English. 161 00:07:52.360 --> 00:07:52.560 Yeah. 162 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:56.480 So hey, that was an interesting one. That's a really 163 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.639 we both put together some really weird bands. Yeah, but 164 00:07:59.759 --> 00:08:01.600 mine could work together, yours would struggle. 165 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:02.439 Well, three of mine were dead. 166 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:04.040 That'd be weird. 167 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:06.879 One Yeah, that'd be weird, you know. But hey, that 168 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:09.319 was a cool little segment. So thanks Desi Rae. 169 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:12.519 Yeah, I appreciate that and talking about. 170 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:14.519 Dead people. 171 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:15.439 Yea, dead people. 172 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:21.360 You know Isaiah as far. 173 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:24.680 As we know. So we're in the Book of Isaiah. 174 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:26.759 And if you don't know, if you're new to the show, 175 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:30.319 we're always trying to find like the worst possible transition 176 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:36.080 from that that seg from the segments into the devotional Partah. 177 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.519 But we're in the Book of Isaiah today, in Isaiah 178 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:42.960 chapter nine, and so so Chris the beginning of it. 179 00:08:43.039 --> 00:08:46.320 It starts off with hope in the Messiah. Yeah, and 180 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:48.799 then you're never gonna guess what what's next. 181 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:50.240 Well, I'll give you one guess. 182 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:50.759 One guess. 183 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:52.879 The Lord's anger against Israel. 184 00:08:53.559 --> 00:08:56.679 That's all the prophets, all the prophets. God's pretty upset 185 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:59.279 with Israel. So we're going to start off in Isaiah 186 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:02.080 chapter nine, verse and it says nevertheless that time of 187 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.879 darkness and despair will not go on forever. The land 188 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:07.519 of Zebulin and naught lie will be humbled, But there 189 00:09:07.519 --> 00:09:09.320 will be a time in the future when Galilee of 190 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:11.960 the Gentiles, which lies along the road that runs between 191 00:09:12.039 --> 00:09:14.919 Jordan and the sea, will be filled with glory. The 192 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:17.240 people who walk in darkness will see a great light 193 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:19.840 for those who live in a land of deep darkness. 194 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:22.960 A light will shine. You will enlarge the nation of Israel, 195 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.639 and its people will rejoice, and they will rejoice before you, 196 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:28.080 as people rejoice at the harvest, and like warriors dividing 197 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:30.600 the blunder. For you will break the yoke of their 198 00:09:30.679 --> 00:09:33.480 slavery and lift the heavy burden from their shoulders. You 199 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:35.559 will break the oppressor's rod, just as you did when 200 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:37.879 you destroy the army a median. The boots of the 201 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.559 warrior and the uniform's bloodstained by war will be burned. 202 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:43.320 They will be fuel for the fire. For a child 203 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:45.360 is born to us, a son is given to us. 204 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:47.879 The government will rest on his shoulders, and he will 205 00:09:47.919 --> 00:09:53.320 be called Wonderful counselor Mighty God, everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 206 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:57.080 His government and its peace will never end. He will 207 00:09:57.159 --> 00:09:59.120 rule with fairness and justice from the throne of his 208 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:02.519 ancestor David, for all eternity. The passionate commitment of the 209 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:04.639 Lord of Heaven's armies will make this happen. 210 00:10:06.039 --> 00:10:07.639 It says they'll go through verse four. 211 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.879 Right, yep, the Lord has spoken out against Jacob. His 212 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:13.440 judgment has fallen upon Israel and the people of Israel, 213 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:15.759 and Samario, who spoke with such pride and arrogance, will 214 00:10:15.799 --> 00:10:18.360 soon know it. They said, we will replace the broken 215 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:21.000 bricks of our ruins with finished stone, and replant the 216 00:10:21.240 --> 00:10:24.440 feld sycamore fig trees with cedars. But the Lord will 217 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:30.320 bring resins armies against Israel and stir up all their foes. 218 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:32.639 The Syrians from the east and the Philistines from the 219 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.720 west will bear their fangs and devour Israel. But even 220 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:37.960 then the Lord's angle will not be satisfied. His fist 221 00:10:38.080 --> 00:10:41.360 is still poised tous strike. For after all this punishment, 222 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.240 the people will still not repent, and they will not 223 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.320 seek the Lord of Heaven's armies. Therefore, in a single day, 224 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:48.360 the Lord will destroy both the head and the tail, 225 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:51.519 the noble palm branch and the lowly read. The leaders 226 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:54.240 of Israel are the head, and the lying prophets are 227 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:56.919 the tail. For the leaders of the people have misled them, 228 00:10:56.960 --> 00:10:58.679 and they have led them down the path of destruction. 229 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:01.120 And that is why the Lord no pleasure in the 230 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:03.840 young men, and shows no mercy even to the widows 231 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.559 and orphans, for they are all wicked hypocrites, and they 232 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:09.399 all speak foolishness. But Even then, the lord's anger will 233 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:12.240 not be satisfied. His fist is still poised to strike. 234 00:11:13.399 --> 00:11:15.559 This wickedness is like a brush fire burns not only 235 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:18.320 briars and thorns, but also sets the forces ablaze. And 236 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:21.159 it's burning sends up clouds of smoke, and the land 237 00:11:21.159 --> 00:11:23.279 will be blackened by the fear of the Lord's Heaven's armies. 238 00:11:23.799 --> 00:11:26.200 Lord of Heaven's armies, the people will be fuel for 239 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:28.360 the fire, and no one will spare, even his own brother. 240 00:11:28.720 --> 00:11:30.519 They will attack their neighbor on the right, but will 241 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.120 still be hungry. They will devour their neighbor on the left, 242 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.480 but will not be satisfied. And in the end they 243 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:39.200 will even eat their own children. Manasa will feed on Ephraim, 244 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:41.840 and Ephriam will feed on Manassa, and both will devour Judah. 245 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:44.440 But even then the lord's angle will not be satisfied. 246 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:48.879 His fist is still poised to strike. What sorrow awaits 247 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:51.960 that unjust judges and those who issue unfair laws. They 248 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.200 deprive the poor of justice and deny the rights of 249 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:56.960 the needy Among my people. They prey on widows and 250 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:59.200 take advantage of orphans. What will you do when I 251 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:01.360 punish you when I send disaster upon you from a 252 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:04.200 distant land. To whom will you turn for help? Where 253 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:07.120 will your treasures be safe? You will stumble along his 254 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:09.120 prisoners or lie among the dead. But even then, the 255 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:12.120 Lord's anger will not be satisfied. His fist is still 256 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:13.000 poised to strike. 257 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:17.600 Oh well, good morning everyone. Yeah, hey, you know what 258 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:19.559 that reminds me of you ever had a parent you have. 259 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:22.799 It reaches their boiling point and they finally just scream enough, 260 00:12:23.200 --> 00:12:27.120 Yeah enough, I've had enough. And he's like, well, yeah, 261 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:30.960 you've gotten dead to the point to where there's no 262 00:12:31.120 --> 00:12:35.120 going back. You know, It's like the Lord is patient 263 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:40.600 for generations. He is you know, he warns, he has instruction, 264 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:44.799 he asks for you know, devotion, He does all those 265 00:12:44.919 --> 00:12:49.720 things for just so so long. It just seems like 266 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.360 it seems like his patience is never ending. And then 267 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.559 all of a sudden you come across this and and 268 00:12:57.320 --> 00:13:01.200 he's like okay. Because you know what, there's difference between 269 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:06.120 sometimes God will express his anger versus saying here's what's 270 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:09.879 going to happen, judgment, Judgment's coming. Because there's plenty of 271 00:13:10.039 --> 00:13:13.759 passages where God expresses his anger and his you know 272 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:19.000 dissatisfaction and all these kinds of things. But then you know, 273 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:23.320 this one in particular says, here it comes right. Judgment's 274 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:24.279 coming and it's common. 275 00:13:24.440 --> 00:13:24.799 That's right. 276 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:28.799 And guess what, it's coming hard because even when these 277 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.960 things happen, my anger still will not be satisfied. 278 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:32.639 That's right. 279 00:13:32.759 --> 00:13:34.960 And he says, my fist is poised to strike. He 280 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:36.240 said that, what three four times? 281 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:39.080 Yeah, And he said one of the reasons why his 282 00:13:39.159 --> 00:13:42.519 fist was poised to strike. He's just pounding them is 283 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:45.720 he says, And they will still for all this punishment, 284 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:50.039 that people will still not repent, they will not seek 285 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:53.759 the Lord of Heaven's armies. And so God says the well, then, 286 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:55.279 finding a single day, I'm going to wipe out both 287 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:57.399 the head and the tail. Now I'm going to wipe 288 00:13:57.440 --> 00:14:01.240 out the rulers and the false prophets. It's it's a 289 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:04.360 sad thing. You know. I've had conversations with people before 290 00:14:05.519 --> 00:14:08.919 who come to me and say, these horrible things are 291 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:11.519 happening in my life, and they'll just go down the 292 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.919 line this thing and this thing and this thing, and 293 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:16.320 they're like, what should I do? 294 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:17.960 Honor God? 295 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:21.200 And that's what I always say, honor God. And then 296 00:14:21.360 --> 00:14:24.240 I had one guy ask me, do you think this 297 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.720 is God's judgment on me? And if so, what do 298 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:30.039 I do? And I said so, just so you know, 299 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.519 I'm a pastor, I care for the sheep. I'm not 300 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:36.279 the judge. So I don't know. I said, what do 301 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:41.120 you think? He said, I think, yeah, maybe maybe this 302 00:14:41.240 --> 00:14:43.279 is God's judgment. I said, well, then what is the 303 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.720 only logical thing to do? Right, So you need to 304 00:14:47.759 --> 00:14:49.120 go to God. I can't go to God for you. 305 00:14:49.320 --> 00:14:51.039 You need to go to God and you need to 306 00:14:51.240 --> 00:14:54.159 just say God. Because he wasn't convinced of it, he 307 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:56.840 was thinking maybe that was the issue. And I said, 308 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:58.720 you need to go to God, confess your sin as 309 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:01.679 best you can, but more importantly, let him know your 310 00:15:01.879 --> 00:15:04.720 heart is heading towards him. Right, even if you're not 311 00:15:04.879 --> 00:15:07.639 positive you understand what it was that's bringing the judgment. 312 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:09.639 Run to him. And I told him, I said, I 313 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.559 don't know that I believe that this is judgment from God. 314 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:14.360 I don't know. God hasn't spoken to me about this, 315 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:19.720 but it's always appropriate when you're unsure of the circumstances, 316 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:22.799 run to God. Right, That's appropriate, And so you can 317 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.200 see here, This very clearly is God's judgment on the people, 318 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:29.240 and they still will not repent, which repent just means 319 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:30.799 turned from your way and turn to God's way. 320 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:31.240 Right. 321 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:34.240 And so if there's ever a time when you're unsure 322 00:15:34.279 --> 00:15:36.639 about a circumstance, just run to God. I think that's 323 00:15:36.679 --> 00:15:39.480 always God's answer. He's more concerned about the heart, the 324 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:44.960 trajectory of your life, right. He doesn't. He's not looking for, 325 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.919 you know this, to destroy you. That's not what he 326 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.279 wants to do. His desire is not to destroy. That's 327 00:15:51.320 --> 00:15:53.600 why you can kind of see this anger is like, 328 00:15:53.679 --> 00:15:57.600 you're making me do this, right, And he doesn't want that. 329 00:15:57.879 --> 00:15:59.360 He wants the repentance. 330 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:02.919 I always always used to say, and I and I've 331 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:05.240 still said it recently, but in fact, I think I 332 00:16:05.320 --> 00:16:07.759 might have even mentioned on this podcast earlier. But the 333 00:16:07.840 --> 00:16:11.240 three categories, there's a there's a there's a big category 334 00:16:11.279 --> 00:16:14.080 before you get to misery and tragedy. And it's conviction, 335 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.720 which is a fancy church word of saying, uh. It's 336 00:16:17.840 --> 00:16:21.320 the power of the Holy Spirit within you that is 337 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:26.639 nudging you, inviting you, challenging you, encourage. 338 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.320 And away from It's the spirit of God in you. 339 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:33.039 So the conviction is a very very large category. That's 340 00:16:33.120 --> 00:16:35.679 the patience that we talked about earlier. Yes, it's it's 341 00:16:35.720 --> 00:16:38.559 the uh, you know, the warnings and the uh. You know, 342 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:43.639 God's desire expressing his desire. Please follow me and be 343 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:46.799 aware of this and be on guard against this, you know, 344 00:16:46.879 --> 00:16:49.559 those kinds of things if you think about your own life. 345 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:52.200 God sends conviction in many forms. 346 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:55.840 So sometimes you'll you know, hear a sermon, or you'll 347 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:58.840 read God's word, or you'll see a poster, or you'll 348 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:03.399 have a conversation withbody who's godly who speaks truth or 349 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:06.119 life into your into your soul, you know, and they 350 00:17:06.440 --> 00:17:08.359 and they say, hey, I'm concerned about this or I'm 351 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:10.680 pointing out this or whatever it is. And sometimes you 352 00:17:10.759 --> 00:17:13.039 hear a song on the radio. Sometimes it's and God. 353 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:17.279 I believe not always, but God often uses little things 354 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.079 in our lives to get our attention and U and 355 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:23.160 it's and it's and you know, if it's truly the 356 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:26.079 spirit of God, I think he can fall under this 357 00:17:26.200 --> 00:17:29.599 word conviction because the Holy Spirit is trying to turn 358 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:32.759 us toward him. He's trying to get our attention, remind 359 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:37.359 us and oftentimes It's hard to interpret, like was that 360 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:39.680 God or was that just a coincidence of you know, 361 00:17:40.160 --> 00:17:41.240 that guy wearing a shirt? 362 00:17:41.559 --> 00:17:42.000 You know what I mean? 363 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.839 I was in I was in Walmart, uh, the other day. 364 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.920 I know, it sounds funny Walmart, right, I rarely good 365 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:51.279 to Walmart. It's got such a stigma, doesn't it. But anyway, 366 00:17:51.279 --> 00:17:53.000 I was in Walmart the other day and I was 367 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:56.240 wearing a painter's shirt. I was painting my daughter's house. 368 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:59.039 And that's I was down in Florida, and so uh. 369 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:01.559 This this shirt that I had was a work shirt 370 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:04.480 from a mission strip back in two thousand and seven, 371 00:18:05.440 --> 00:18:10.200 and we had gone to Costa Rica and it was 372 00:18:10.279 --> 00:18:12.880 my old church and it had, you know, a logo 373 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:15.440 on the front, and on the back it had John 374 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:19.640 three sixteen in Spanish. Right, and this guy's behind me 375 00:18:19.720 --> 00:18:22.720 in line. This happened a few days ago. Guys behind 376 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:26.039 me in line and he goes excuse me, or actually 377 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:28.839 he says, pumping me small or whatever whatever you say 378 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:32.000 in Spanish. Right, starts talking in Spanish to me, and 379 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:35.240 I said, I no, i' bles spaniel poquito. He says, 380 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:40.440 oh okay, he says, well, I'm just wondering what is 381 00:18:40.519 --> 00:18:42.640 the shirt you're wearing, And I told him it was 382 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:45.759 a missions trip in Costa Rica. He said, I literally 383 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:48.440 can't believe that you're wearing that shirt. He goes, I 384 00:18:48.839 --> 00:18:52.119 just prayed and asked God to show me a sign. 385 00:18:52.640 --> 00:18:55.000 And then I get behind you in line, and I 386 00:18:55.200 --> 00:18:58.839 look and I see John three sixteen in my own 387 00:18:58.960 --> 00:19:01.400 native language, in my own language, and he said, and 388 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:03.000 it's just he goes, this is unbelievable. 389 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:04.000 I think it's God speaking to me. 390 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:04.279 Now. 391 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:10.920 I do believe that there are things that God uses, 392 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:14.319 you know, that defy coincidence. 393 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:16.759 And you could try to explain it away if you 394 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:19.200 want to. But when you pray and. 395 00:19:19.240 --> 00:19:21.359 Then you get in line and you look up and 396 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:24.680 you know, and there it is, right, I just think 397 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:27.440 that God uses things like that. And so all that 398 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:31.640 to say, let's surrender to the big category of conviction 399 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:35.319 before it crosses over, because not always, but sometimes God 400 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:37.559 will use misery and God will. 401 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:39.960