Unknown: Rich, I am pushing you to do a comedy set at some
point. He really wants me to go, telling you we're gonna either
do a Zanies night or we're going to Atlanta. So Jim, if you want
to hop in the truck, sure we're doing it, man. Because
guys, you know what you haven't done yet, some stand up. He
would crush. You know? He would crush? Yeah, yeah.
This is the rich Redmond show. Have you
seen Wolfgang Van Halen? Latest video? The music video? No. It's
like a reimagining of thriller directed by Robert Rodriguez,
whoa, and it's like zombies in it, and he's getting attacked
and everything. Have you not seen this? No came out eight
days ago as of this recording, and he actually does a
reenactment. I want to say it's in this video, a reenactment of
his father's iconic table walk guitar solo from odd for
teacher. Oh yes, that is Wolfgang. Well, I love Robert
Rodriguez, I know you do. That's why I'm telling you. I love
zombies. I know you do. That's why I'm telling you.
Salma Hayek was great in that movie. You
know, if I knew that about you, you love horror movies. I love
all
horror movies. This is our guest, Rob ricotta. He's the
best. He's He's a multi talent. Jim, I thought that you would
enjoy today, because Rob does so many things. You know what? I
mean? He's a hyphy, right? Like you and I are hyphys, like we're
juggling so many balls. It's like balls. I can't even say
what it's like, because I'll get canceled. But anyways, you know
today, you know, today's guest is a drummer. He's also an
actor. He's a voice actor, he's a model, he's a songwriter. You
know, we've been friends, seems like a very, very long time, but
we're just kind of looking back at at our history here. We
originally met because he plays with a amazing recording artist
on John Jason aldeans label, John Morgan, and he was playing
with John, just he and John on our rock and roll cowboy tour in
2022 and he was all done up every night, just ready to do
the thing. He looked like a million bucks. And he was doing
like a stand up, kind of like a cocktail kit kind of a thing.
But instead of, like the the upward facing kick pedal on the
floor tom and that whole thing, it was like an SPDs X, and had
all the cool sounds, and he could change the sounds for each
song, and he had the pedal going. And it was like hyper
visual. And I was like, Oh, I can get behind this kid. Who is
this kid, right? And I get to learn more about him. And then
they come back for the second iteration of that tour, in 2023
our rock and roll cowboy tour. But it's electric, and he's got
the full band going. And now I get to see him, see him play
drums, and learn more about him. Like, oh, you're a voiceover
guys. Like, Well, man, I was, you know, I was like, I just was
in LA for five years trying to get my sag card. I play a lot of
cops and detectives and so, you know, we, you know, we became
fast friends, and I even attended this young man's
wedding. Now,
not attended. You were a groomsmen.
You are so, right. So, like, here I am. It's like,
you forgot that you would, you stood up at his wedding. Well,
there was
Yeah, but the thing is, is that he didn't work me, like, right
John Hall, my drum tech, who said, can you be the MC, the DJ
and do the toast? And I was like, Yes. I had, like, cue
cards. I had this huge PA system. I was doing the thing.
It was good for me, because, guys, I am going to be a DJ. I
mean, I am going to be DJ. Redmond, that's that's your
thing. I'm going to charge $10,000 starting bid is going to
be $10,000 but, I mean, Rob's from Franklin, North Carolina.
He's known John Morgan for many, many years. Fantastic drummer,
like I said, multi talent. This is our new friend, Rob Ricardo.
Thanks for being here, man.
Gosh, what an honor to be here. Thank you both. Bring that mic
over. A little bit more for you. Absolutely. That's good. Okay,
great,
you know. And you know, I pride myself on, you know, this at
this particular chapter of my life, you know, having the full
package, you know, I want to have like a you know, I want my
expensive haircut, and I want to look like I'm ready for the gig
at all times. Jim's like yesterday, Jim goes, you look
like you're ready to jump on stage at all times, even if you
go to Publix but, but Rob takes it to another level, because I
think it's like the modeling thing. I mean, your beard is
like, you're the Marlboro Man. I mean, dude, you're so good
looking and so put together that my own fiance won't use me as a
model. She's using you as she uses your bride as a model. It
was cool
to see you're a good looking couple. Bri, oh no, I appreciate
it so much. Yeah, it was cool to see my bride the other day in
one of her shoots. And honestly, she wears those T shirts all the
time now, which is great. Yeah, absolutely
nice green hills, but it's green hills in the font and the logo
design of Beverly Hills, because Let's fake it, face it if you're
living in Greg and green hills, oh yes, you've done
okay. Exclusive pickleball courts,
cocktails, direct
access to Trader Joe's Nord sprouts,
no traffic. Oh
yeah, a horrible Hillsborough road. Hello, yeah. But
everywhere is Hillsborough road, and now we're in you. We are in
Spring Hill, Tennessee, which has been a community since the
late 1800s and it was probably horse and buggy two lane roads,
and still is. There's nowhere to there's no way to expand the
roads here. We're just going to be dealing with like LA style
traffic in Spring Hill. But it's good. I'm loving the
lifestyle. Beautiful. Oh my gosh, it's beautiful out here.
It's very calm.
We have sidewalks in farmland as well. Very nice, man. It's just
so cool to you know, we had some good times and on those tours,
yeah, it was post COVID. Right after COVID, there was a
few times I know you remember as well, we'd show up. And there
was still some of the states that were so highly liked locked
that 99 crew of you guys. That's a machine show up, and they're
like, What do we do? Do we ask these people to put mask on? Do
we not and it was kind of funny watching it all go down, because
we lived this for two, three years, and then we're like,
well, so this state, we'll see how this state goes, and then
move on to the next one tomorrow night. But, yeah, it's
interesting time.
But dude, you're a showman, you know, everything you do. I mean,
the way you were playing the SPD, SX, and, you know, now I'm
seeing you in music videos, and you guys have been doing a lot
more press lately. I saw you. You guys did a thing on the
Kelly Clarkson show. You were on that TV show, American song
contest, you know. And you, you let the hair down, like your
hair is up right now, and this, yeah, it's kind
of a weird how long is your hair? And right now you want to
let it down rock and roll, Sunset Strip, yeah, it's down
here. Yeah, it's down here. It's kind of, you got, like, the
whole gamut going. It's, I don't know, man, I think it's half out
of proxy, all our guys. It's actually one of those things
we're going through as a band right now. And it's like, we're
about to just call it hair country or something, because
all our guys somehow just ended up with with longer hair. It
wasn't by I think it's just living again. I mean, you guys
know that. What I
mean is that you got the acting thing, the voice over thing, the
modeling thing, the you have your hair, which still, which
some of us can't say,
he's not having to dig into the finasteride just
yet. Well, it's, it's strange. And I will say, like, do you
play sports, or are you a professional athlete? No, I
wish. I do love I played soccer all growing up, and still played
here and there, but we played so much pickle on tour with these
guys. I don't play pickle loads of fun, though.
Of course, you don't. They're too they're too competitive.
These guys, they take all the fun out of it.
They don't anymore. I heard though, are they done? Are they
still playing?
Yet to play a game of pickleball, we'll find out. Have
you ever played a
game? We've been sitting around for five months waiting to go.
So may 19, we jump into rehearsals for three days, and
we start our tour on May 22 in Cincinnati, at the blossom.
Thank god. I can't wait to play these 24 songs again with my
best friends. Hello. Are you? Did you ever play pickleball?
Never tried it, buddy? Because I'm always like, doing my
stretching or my running or lifting weights or doing Yeah,
I'm more of like a man against himself, man against nature.
It. Listen, it's like watching the rocky montage when you do go
out on tour with rich, because it's true, like you get you're
like, 1130 to the like, right before lunch kind of thing. He's
soaking, dripping wet out there, just doing his thing. And he
puts all the younger guys to shame, because you're like, oh,
man, I just woke up and Rich is getting after it. And so it kind
of makes you, like, pick yourself up a bit and be like,
Wow, I better not eat crappy.
Worry about it, because you got you, got you. No, it's not true,
man, I'm having to but yeah, yeah, me too. That's, you know,
what Rich I will say it's weird coming from you to say you're a
showman Rob, because, as we know like it truthfully, is the
ultimate experience, the succinctness of you in a studio
and the succinctness of you live. It's untouchable. So it's
weird to come from one a friend, but two, a fellow musician, and
go, Hey, you're a showman. Because I that's like, the most
succinct thing about you as a player. Oh,
man, I appreciate it. But you're just totally coming into your
own in your drum career. You've had this voiceover career for 14
years, you know, which is amazing, and we'll get into
that. And because I, and because I, and I thought you'd be an
amazing guest, because you can do some kibitzing with Jim, you
know, because he's been a radio does the voice over, all that
kind of stuff. So you guys have a lot in common. But, you know,
just watching you get your endorsements together, you know,
your dream symbols. And, hey, I'm a drum dial artist, and I'm
playing collision sticks. And you know, you're doing the
thing, you know, and you're I just because I remember those
days, those years of that, the first couple of years of being
hungry, and, you know, you're building something. You're
getting all your allies and your team together, so exciting.
And you've, man, it's been so cool. Just the few times as
well, you've said, hey, look beyond Can I do anything for
you? You need to meet these guys at innovative or you need to
meet, you know, not just symbol people, but great people in the
industry that are long standing, that actually are major quality
in what they do. And now being able to use some of those things
on records, like little percussive things, have been so
cool, like, so I appreciate that as well. And, yeah, I think.
Most of these people that we've gotten the opportunity to build
relationship with, it's just that you're like, Man, I hope
you're rounding in 10 years while I'm doing this or
whatever.
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Now, this artist that you're playing with, John Morgan, you
guys go way back back to high school days, so fill us in on
that
history. Our bass player,
not unlike you guys, it was, it was really cool to see and watch
your relationship with Kurt and Tully and Jason and understand
that storyline, because it did mirror a lot of what just
knowing each other musically, and then knowing each other from
afar and going, man, what does this look like when we put it
together? Kind of a thing. So our bass player and John and
myself actually the bass player and John was a rival high school
to mine, so we grew up playing sports against each other in the
world where we come from, it's bluegrass music, and so there's
no drums. No, you have to washboard it. You know, do you
do the washboard thing? That's where, believe it or not, I
started on bongos and Congos way back when. But, yeah, you had
to, like, learn
some risky Skaggs has got some drums a little bit, you're
right. And
Union Station, sometimes, aside from mandolin, has like, a
little bit of a shaker or something,
really fast train beats. But
nowadays it like, back, you know, when it changed, they
went, it's an indoctrination of our, you know, to put drums on
bluegrass. So that, at that time, we were trying to do that.
And I think it was just like, No, no, don't do that. Yeah, but
yeah, we all were in bluegrass music of some kind. We played in
different bands and and I knew of John, and it was just a pass
by in a studio that the engineer said, You need to stay back and
listen to this guy's voice. So I'd been writing that day with a
friend. We'd been doing a session in our small, little
studio, and he said, man, just stay back. And I heard John sing
for the first time, and it was, you know, like a movie. It's in
a little vocal booth, comes out of the vocal booth. And I said,
Man, you know, did you write that song? Kind of a thing? He
said, Yeah. I said, who'd you write it with? He said, I just
wrote about lonesome. And I, you know, I suppose at that moment,
it really was like a magic that just I went, I'll do I think I'd
do anything for people to be able to hear that. I'll do
whatever it takes for people to hear that. And I'm looking at
videos recently, especially him just having a number one a week
ago. I looked back at the ones in the studio going like, Man,
I'm so glad that people just know John Morgan now, yeah, you
know that is enough for me, almost for people, to kind of
take him as a household name, if you will.
He's becoming a household name swiftly. And so did you move to
Nashville first and then say, Hey, John, you really got
to get here six months? Yeah, I'd gone to enough writers
rounds like, I'm sure you guys, you know when you when you move
here, I think it's you. What's weird about Nashville is, is, I
don't know if you agree with this or not, but I've found that
Nashville, if you move here, you have a seat at the table. It's
not, it's not necessarily like in New York LA, where it's like,
man, you gotta just absolutely not that you don't have to grind
here. But what I mean is, is that people go, if you're here,
what's the first question? Do you live in Nashville? Yeah. And
then it's like, yeah, we can write if you don't live in
Nashville, nah. I'm good. You know what? I mean, yeah. Gotta
be here. You gotta be here. And so seeing enough rounds, there's
less gate gatekeepers here. Totally, yeah, totally. So yeah,
it
moved here six months. And I just said, John, whenever you
get the chance. It's, you know, it's cool to work doing
maintenance or at a tire shop or whatever, you can do whatever
you want. But I'll tell you, if you really want to do music, you
got to move where music is. And so thankfully, took me my word
and and moved
here. Best advice ever. And then, I mean, he does have just
such an amazing voice. He looks like a young James Taylor. You
know what I mean, he really does. He does, and he's had, you
know, since you know, thank God you can visit him to move to
town. He's earned cuts with John party, Dustin Lynch, Thomas red,
16 tracks with Jason Aldean. Maybe it's even more now,
including the number one trouble with a heartache at the Grammy
nominated, which was Grammy nominated ACM Single of the
Year, if I didn't love you, with Carrie Underwood, the current,
our current single whiskey drink, and you guys are
celebrating a number one with Jason Aldean. Yeah, friends like
that. Friends like that. Yeah, amazing. Congratulations, crazy,
crazy. You're in the video. All,
yes, you know. But the best part is, where it started is you guys
playing on all John's stuff, and that's exactly what happened
with the first number one. Is All You guys are on friends like
that. And it's really cool. It's full circle, because I feel like
Jason, taking a shot on John and your whole team, taking us under
your wing on tour for two years in a row, which is unheard of,
in my opinion, in the industry, to just go and we're not only
taking you one year, we're gonna believe in you again. You again.
And here's a full band thing. It just is so right, in my opinion,
to have the story be Hey, by the way, all the guys that took you
under and and lifted you on their shoulders are the ones
that got the number the first number one on that artist. So
it's so cool to hear you first one. Well,
thank you, and you listening to your drumming. Let's celebrate
you. You got this amazing relationship with John going way
back. You know you've earned his respect. He trusts you, and he
invites the band to play on his latest record, Carolina blue,
which dropped April 25 was produced by Brent Anderson. Guy
used to play in his demos, God, 15 years ago, tell us about that
process.
It the ruckus room in town, which I wasn't familiar with.
How many great records had been made there, over there in
Berryhill, in Berryhill, and it's kind of, again, off of, not
the main strip there in Berry Hill, but it's like up on a
hill. Yep, a very unassuming place. And, you know, big, wide
door, you Oh, you go through, but now it's farmland. Studios
is operating out of that building, and it just has good
juju, if you will. Like, you walk in and you're like, Man, I
just it feels like a very comfortable space to make
records. It's one of the last places like a sound in Portman
town. I think that's got that mid grade studio feel like it's
obviously high end, but it's still what I mean is is
accessible to people like us who are rookies and trying to cut
our teeth in this industry. Yeah, so it feels like the
engineer is not going to be all over your butt the whole time
he's working with guys that are greener. I think it's really so
sweet, if you will, to have somebody in there who gives you
suggestions, and nobody has an ego. You're just learning.
You're learning in there. And I, you know, it's a completely
different experience for me, being in the studio. I've had
little hints of it, but being in there and almost living there
for a week, you know, you go in there and you have a limited
amount of time to do something. But I think that trying to get
gold, if you have people there that are constantly saying, Man,
you know, I'd love to bring a little bit of you, have more of
you on the instrument, rather than just the parts, yeah, I
felt like that was such a weird thing to be have the ability to
do.
Yeah, congratulations. I wish I had known man, you. I mean, all
of a sudden I realized, oh my god, John's got a full length
record. He uses band. That's great, because it just does.
It's happening more often nowadays, but still pretty rare.
It's so easy for, you know, when there's money at stake and
there's the stakes are so high, it's like, call the guys, call
the team. You know what? I mean, the guys that are got their
studio tans every day, because it does take a little bit more
work sometimes to get a bunch of guys that don't do it all time
to create the product. But you had a whole week awesome, and
it's easy to get good catering in Berryhill, there's a lot of
restaurants in rate,
and also not be that way.
Yeah, Brent Anderson was, was really great about this as well.
He did a lot of it, being our kind of first time doing a full
length record in that way. He did a lot of pre production on
it for us. And so he rounded out the experience of just going,
Hey, percussion, little loot, stuff like that. Let's not like,
I'm not gonna have those. Why don't you play those things too,
and it reminded me of you as well, because there was so much
of that you listen to Jason's records over the years where all
that stuff, you're like, No, no. Like, rich played that that's
not just some random drum loop that's playing on an spdx, or,
you know, shakers here, or trying to seven different
tambourines. And you're like, I think this one will work. That's
the. What? So that was so cool. He let us do that with symbols,
and we tried different snares. And
the future is so bright. It's cool. I mean, that is great.
Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Big, big. You
told me that was, I mean, honestly, was all coming, man,
yeah, I think it was. I texted you the other day and I said,
Rich. It's crazy how you kind of predicted that a bit, but it was
like, man, if you just you told me, he said, Man, if you just
continue to show up, I really believe that, especially the
recording bit, is in your future. Yeah. And it was like,
you know, I didn't expect it to be now, but it was kind of like
clockwork. I was like, Man, I guess he was right, you know,
so Well, the thing is, is you're coachable, you're teachable,
you're affable, you're all the bulls, you know, yeah, I mean,
it's like, it's, you're just a likable guy, and and you're a
team player, and so, you know. And John just seems like a loyal
guy, you know, he's a grounded dude, you know, which is great.
So, Wow,
isn't that cool, Jim? That's cool. Super critical. Yeah, man.
Now, when this comes out, Jim will probably have played his
gig at the city winery. Jim is a drummer. Get out of here. He
kind of hasn't done it in public a lot for like, maybe, like, 18
years, but now he joined the Huey Lewis tribute band, and
they're playing the city winery on May 28 Yes, and I'll be
there. I'll be I'll have my flatbread and my wine. I'll be
watching. It'll be great. And Jim, should I sit up nice and
close, or should I sit way in the back? I
don't care where you sit.
That's a nice room, by the way, but I spent a lot of time. I
really
want to look out and see you just going
like this, taking notes I
can be transcribing. Yeah. Yeah. You
know you don't just go and play in a Huey Lewis tribute man, by
the way, you got to, like, know that he's got it. Like,
yeah, it's true. It's it's given me a vast appreciation for Bill
Gibson, yeah, who we've had on the show several months ago.
But, yeah, yeah, he's that guy's a juggernaut. That's he doesn't
get enough recognition. He deserves a lot more. You know,
Bill
is a very shucks guy. He's not the kind of like,
except when we asked him about the mailbox money, he's like,
yeah, the walks to the mailbox are always fun.
Well, yeah. I mean, lives in the Bay Area, and that's not cheap.
Yeah. You know, Carolina blue, everyone. Check that out,
performed by the band. That's incredible. And so you guys are
telling me about your recent tours, two tours for Al Dean,
tours for Ernest, Riley, green, Nate Smith, Jameson, Rogers,
what's coming up? Kane Brown, Old Dominion. But we were your
favorite, right?
Undeniable enough to be like, Rich. Come on, where's the best
at my wedding? But
we also have like, scars, you know, we had a good time out
there. Oh, my god, yeah. So
much. Your cigars every night, well, we drink
too much. Yeah? Most nights enough for rich to go. Is this
gonna give me mouth cancer, right? 100%
does the tip of your tongue supposed to touch it a little
bit, because that's what she said. He would always go, am
I inhaling this? Should I be inhaling? I'm like, No, you
don't inhale. You don't it's
not a cigarette. But now my chops are strong. Now we have
the most amazing cigar bar, I say, in Middle Tennessee, in
Spring Hill. Get out the mission. You know, tell me about
right there, like, right there.
We may be visiting this.
I'm listening to his baritone in his voice, yeah, it's very, it's
a clear baritone that's going on there, very and he sings and
does the whole deal. And right, of course, he does, yeah, just,
you just miss, I can't believe, you know, you just got the
professional athletic you gotta, like, become
a football player. Yeah, work out more now. Just learn how to
throw a football. There you go. Kick a foot. You're a soccer
player. Oh, that's true. You could be a public kicker,
thinking too old for pro sports. That'd be cool, though, because,
like, typically, actors want to be be musicians, athletes.
Athletes want to be musicians. You know, everyone
does that is weird. You got it all going
on. It's a grass is greener thing, which is, like, is a
human condition.
But I don't know, is it reciprocal with musicians, with
being like, Oh, I'd love to be it. I think it's also sometimes
like, oh, musicians. Maybe I found this. Maybe you have as
well. But being in the acting world as well, you feel like you
go, Oh, man, I'd love to be a, you know, six foot whatever,
tall actor or tall sports person. I feel, I feel that
sometimes I'm like, Man, oh, that guy's a stud. Love
to be tall, you know, you got more places to put your food.
And I'm Italian, I like to eat, you know. So you get you're
taller, that's right, you can, but the same time you require
more food if you're taller. So it's all a balance. It's all
discipline, it's all discipline. It really, really is so. But how
did you originally get into music? Wasn't it a spiritual
thing? Aren't you like, a like? Weren't you involved in the
church? Well, my so my parents were in ministry growing up,
kind of a thing. And. It, funnily enough, my parents were
in a, I mean, I had done little garage band kind of things with
friends and stuff that played any type of music. But, yeah, my
parents were in a, I suppose you'd call it, like a church,
worship or praise team kind of thing. Yeah, that's very common.
The drummer got sick, drummers, yeah, and it was one of those
things. So he said I used to play like, hilariously enough,
it was, it was still the early 2000s or late 90s, I guess you
could say, and I was doing bongos and Congas right up
there, doing the thing like McConaughy, yeah, and the
drummer got sick one day, and they just said, you can you jump
on a kit? And I said, I guess, I don't know. I've watched him
every whatever, so that was part of it. But yeah, actually, it
really came out of my mother made me learn piano. You've hear
this story a million times, right? Somebody's mom or someone
in the family makes them learn piano. They hate piano, and
they're like, I don't want to practice. That was me. And so I
finally said, Mom, I'm looking at drummers going that that is
what I want to do. I don't know how to get there, but that is
the instrument I want. Yeah. So, yeah, my dad, there was a donut
shop in town. I was 14 years old, and the donut shop owner
played jazz on the weekends. Coolest cat named Tony. Of
course it was. And he had this cool jazz kit. And I think he
had another one in his house. My dad brought it home one day and
said, I don't know how you're gonna play this. What a great
dad. He was a great he's a great dad, yeah. And he absolutely,
yeah. He brought him home. And my mom was like, You're not
playing. You know, actually, it was full circle a week ago. The
guy goes, the guy who, who sold me those drums. Goes, Do you
remember what I told you way back when I said, No, but you
remind me? And he goes, remember, I said, and he gave
me, like, a playlisted album, and it had like all rock,
classic rock on it. And he said, Hey, we don't have many people
in this town that play music, but you can play with all these
bands if you put headphones on. And I just remember sitting down
in in the basement. Very much so around like this jazz kit that's
not meant for rock and wailing on the drums going, this is
about as close as I'm gonna get to being in a band, right? So
that was, unfortunately I never learned I'm going backwards now
and learning, trying to learn the actual chops and the things
that I need to learn, hands and things that him and I have
spoken about, but back then, it was just, yeah, yeah. It was
played with you play because no one's there. You don't. You have
4000 people in your town. You're
doing what you can. You're it's a passion. You're putting the
headphones on, playing to the CD. That's exactly what I did,
yeah, but I didn't have headphones. I had a giant
speaker next to me, big monitor, not it was like it was my father
built it for my brothers. My brother's a piano player, yeah.
And when my brother graduated onto other monitoring, he my
brother literally had like, an entire PA system in his bedroom,
so he'd play through that. So this thing that my father built
was relegated to that downstairs. I'm like, Well, hey,
I know how to connect a cassette player, yeah. And I'd play off
of cassettes and lot of journey, I was gonna ask, what did you
play to journey? Anything that was on the local radio station
that, oddly enough, later on, I began, I started working for,
oh, wow. So anything that came on, so for me, like the testing
was, can you play the songs that just came one after another? It
was like, roulette, yeah. And I just learned how to play them by
and I remember hearing them same thing with you. I saw the drums
and I knew I was naturally gravitated towards this my mom.
I told my mom, what would you know? Because my brother played
piano, what do you want to play? You want to play an answer? Of
course, I do. What do you want to play? The drums? Oh, the too
noisy. How about the saxophone? I've always loved the saxophone,
and you know. And so I was probably, you know, fourth
grade, and she got me a saxophone, and I squeaked, you
know, they don't freaking make noise at all, you know. And
yeah, about three, six months later, I was done, yeah,
instrument your hearts into getting, you know, point A to
point B. But still, the drums are still, you know, the you
could play in so many different musical outlets as a drummer,
folk music, funk music, pop music, country, country rock,
Southern rock, fusion. You could play on Broadway. You can play
tribute bands. You could play on cruise ships. It's like you
could play a mean backbeat, maybe read a little bit of
music, play some styles versatile. You the drum set is
the most versatile thing as for developing a career, way more
than a saxophone. You know what I mean.
My first drum kit was at 11 years old. Similar kind of
story, probably an old leftover Ludwig kit had the psychedelic
covering on it and stuff like it was a green if you turn the
drum, the color moved and whoa, if you're tripping on acid,
yeah, and it was I played jump for the first time, first. How
did you know I want to know this rich? How did you know you
wanted to take it to the utmost and go. I want to learn the all
the education of this, because there's one thing to go we're
drawn to an instrument right to devote not just the time and
practice, let's put that aside, but the actual education of like
going, I'm going to master this instrument. What was that like?
When was that for you?
Well, you know, I just had a natural affinity towards it. So
my dad got me drum lesson. Drum lessons when I was six years
old, and I had this blue sparkle snare drum, and I was reading
marches and learning rudiments and how to play rock beats on
the drums and stuff. But I was that is so young. So then I had
a departure. Gave it up for a little bit, got into Star Wars,
figures, banana bikes, skateboards, Star Wars, all the
stuff. And then, when I moved to El Paso Texas and rejoined the
fifth grade band, I already knew how to play a buttery smooth
press role and pause. You know,
he left out speed skating and
Dungeons and Dragons. Dungeons and Dragons, Dungeon Master,
what Lord of the Rings. What a great game. What a great use of
your brain, because you have to this was strategy. You, not only
that, you it's an it's about imagination, which really, it
was just like when you play jazz, or even if you play,
you're a country rock session musician. You have to have
imagination. You have to have creativity. You're, you're ad
libbing, you know, you're improvising, you know. So this
stuff all kind of cross correlates, but the band that
really, you know, MTV, came along, so I wanted to be in the
police. And you're such a beautiful gift giver. If you
guys are not watching this, Rob came bearing gifts today. He
brought me a some police vinyl and some and a police double DVD
live concert.
Very thoughtful. You'll never be able to watch it, because there
are no DVDs. Any you
know what? I do have a DVD player hooked up to my upstairs
man cave. So I have a room. It's called My dog house room. So
when I'm in the doghouse, I go up there, and I have my Italian
leather couches, and I got my nice flat screen television with
a DVD player, and I could sit up there, have some whiskey, watch
horror films, listen to DVDs. It's amazing. So you're always
trying to get back to the dog house. That's for going. That's
where, sometimes I do things on purpose just to go to the dog
wanna, yeah, yeah, amazing. But no, you've always been so
thoughtful. And so you're, you're always so into fashion
and stuff. I was like, hey man, I need to up my game on my, you
know, necklaces and stuff. You're like, oh yeah, next day
you show up and you'd have a necklace for me. Or like, Hey
man, you know, I lost my last wallet chain. Next thing I know,
wallet change. You're just a very thoughtful person.
Oh, bro. Well, I appreciate that so, so much. Very nice. It's
easy when somebody's got, like, a really good taste for things,
because you're like, they'll like this. I know they will. So
what you're saying is, I'm a challenge.
We were just talking about your Carhartt collection before this.
I mean, Jim's wearing the most comfortable shoes in the room,
correct? ON CLOUD dad shoes, amazing. That's right, but
you're the ultimate dad bro, because they're not on camera,
huh? They're not on camera. It's true. It's true. It's like doing
a Zoom meeting with only no pants, no pants
on so getting into the voiceover world,
yeah, yeah.
What was, what was the turning point for that? Because, oh,
something tells me that you were a little bit of a class clown,
and you were doing, gotta be impersonations and such. And
then people were like, somebody encouraged you that was like,
you know, that you can make a living at this.
Enough detention. You know, my English Lit teacher was at our
show in my hometown a week ago, and it was so cool to go give
her a big hug and a kiss, because I was like, That's cool,
you know, just going to her and saying, Hey, I know is in
detention all the time, but thank you for kind of making a
problem, you know, a solution. She used to have me and this
other kid that cut up all the time. We're still buds to this
day, I actually read to the class. So you get To Kill a
Mockingbird, and she's like, you're going to take character,
and you're going to take character, whatever, and you're
going to redo the class. Will it hush the class? And next thing
you know, everybody aced their English Lit Tet two months
later. Yeah. And so it was really cool to watch that
happen. But yeah, really voiceover for me, didn't really
happen until college. Believe it or not, there was a band that
was going to tour the United States for the first time. Had a
buddy who worked for that band, and said, hey, just need a North
American voice, low American voice. I'll buy you a burrito.
And I was like, college, you have no money. Cool. You know,
great, awesome. And that was kind of what got me started. I
ended up in the room on a
mic, and that was for Taco Bell.
A Taco Bell burrito. It was a national ad.
So you're on the mic, and you're realizing that you have an
affinity for this thing,
yeah, and, and not unsimilar to Jim, where it's like you
started, I remember, actually the I did, like, a radio
internship in in high school, and I, I still didn't think I
really had any kind of whatever I was doing radio programming,
like, hey, the kid who sit sits in there and it does all the
dirty work kind of a thing. And I think that's where I probably
was, like, having fun on a mic. But I had no idea that I had
anything to offer. Yeah, and then it was in college, yeah,
they basically had me do this thing and and exactly as real.
Said there was three guys in the room. It's the beginning of Mrs.
Doubtfire, where they're all with cigarettes, and they're all
All right, you know, be on the mic kind of a thing. So you're
just trying to get something out of them. You can hear pin drop.
And so I'm telling them like, Okay, I've never done this
before, but I'll just go ahead and do it. So I do a bunch of
accents and dialog and just be stupid, and they're entertained.
And the one guy goes, Man, I've been in TV for 17 years. If you
wanted to do this, you really could get a reel and do this.
And I was like, I'm in Australia. I have an American
accent. Like, I'm not gonna get any work here, right? So it
wasn't until I moved back and it was my first thing was a Berea
pasta sauce, AD,
not Barilla, yes, Berea. And it was for
like an Italian over the top Lady and the Tramp kind of
voice. I can't even do it to this day. I can't remember what
I did, but that was my first thing, was for master chef in
Australia.
So why you were able to do like an Italian accent once upon a
time, right? Not anymore.
Well, no, it's more just like, I don't remember exactly what I
did for that, because it was so long ago, right? But then again,
like I, I thought I actually had a really crud Australian accent
when I lived there, but when I got back, it just became, like
Immaculate Conception.
It's a tough accent. It's a very it has to, you have, you have to
have a ring come out totally,
right? Yeah. So if
you had to do it on screen acting job with a Australian
accent, it probably wouldn't be, because I am these Australians
are fierce actors. They're killing it. Yeah, most actors
work like some really top notch actors in the United States are
British or Australian? Yeah? No, they would never, I know. It
blows me away. The
guys that we had on the wolf brothers. Wolf brothers.
Would you guys like a soda? Guess when a soda?
I said, Give me an American accent. And it's like, Okay,
now, give me an American accent from Manhattan. They did
it. They pulled it off. Yeah, you know who's losing some of
the Australian accent, I'm realizing is, over time. Keith
Urban, you feel like he's been here so long, losing it, man,
you know. And it's funny, because he's married to an
Australian, right? Yeah, you'd think it'd be around, you know?
Oh, well. So what I mean, what does your Australian sound like?
Can you just pull it out of about, out of a hat,
you know? Give us some copy. Here we go.
A lot of Australians, they'll say, This is for my Australian
friends out there. I lived in Sydney for about four and a half
years for school. And when an Australia, when Australian is is
frustrated with you, they'll always go, Yeah, look, you know,
yeah. Look, mate, every Australian will do that for
whatever reason. That's like, their thing. Yeah.
Look, yeah, you have like, a Hugo, Hugo, Hugh
Jackman. Hugh Jackman, yeah, there you go. Well, I mean, he's
a song and dance, man, that's right. Well,
it's amazing to me because accents I could certainly do in
New York, which is where I grew up, I could do so I could do a
good like, Clinton esque, raspy Southern Living here, I'm sure,
well, yeah, well, even, but around here, you don't, you
don't really hear too many people. A lot of people
pronounce their uh, trailing, G's very hard. So trailing, you
know, you hear that a lot around here, but I can really get the
rest going and kind of talk like this. And if I really get down
to it and I start pointing with my phone, yeah, the mechanic,
yeah. All right, all right,
yeah. You know, there's a, you know, the thick accent is the
east Tennessee, yeah, big time can be very thick. And the
Carolinas, big Earth hillbillies, Texas,
Texas has definitely
got a sump, yeah, yeah, for sure.
Y'all, I'm learning that more and more, especially that.
But you have a you have a like, let's see. You've got a total
accents reel. Can we listen? I can pull it up a little girl, if
you want to listen, if you if you want to listen, we got
headphones right there. Do you want to listen to? It rich,
totally. All right, let's see, see if it comes through.
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my God, the golden coconuts, dude, that's, yeah, that's, I
tried to do a British accent once I was requested to do a,
like, a television commercial for a local pool company in
Vegas. And I said, We love your British. I'm, like, where did
you hear my British? Well, we heard you. It was like, you
know, on the one of the it was, I was more Scottish, but make it
British, okay? And literally, we in our house, we had a British
guy living with us, renting a room, one of our friends. And
I'm, you know, took about 45 minutes for me to go through the
copy. And I'm, I'm doing my best impersonation of Robin Leach.
You know, Robin leach lifestyles of the rich, and it's awful. It
is awful, and I knew it, but apparently they liked it. Yeah,
so I finish up, and I open the door, and he's standing right
there as open, like, nose to nose. He's like, What the hell
was that? Oh, my God, dude. I know deflating. What? No, I
agreed with them, but did they accept it and pay you? They paid
me. Amazing. So, but Rob, how do you develop that and or maintain
it?
You guys are both lovers of film, so you'll understand, as
far as just being able to on a consistent basis, watch these
films, whether it be international films or national
films, that have all these accents. You know, what helped
me is being in an international school. So, you know, four and a
half years of living in Australia, I didn't just hear an
Australian accent every six months. There was everybody from
everywhere. So you're in a room and it's us three right here.
You're from Germany, you're from France, I'm from America, or
where you're playing soccer or a pickup game for something, or
you're playing, especially music, you're in a band with
people, you would definitely know this like you're in Texas,
but it doesn't mean that your band's, you know, one's from
here, one's from there, so in the same way, you know, everyone
who I played in a band with was from everywhere. So it was very
helpful to not just have a bunch of American friends, but to have
people from all over, you know, the world in your ear all the
time listening. You're just kind of gleaning from that. Yeah. So
yeah. And then obviously, had a lot of Australian friends that
I'd learn a little bit of the the regional where, like Perth,
has a different accent than Sydney, and a different accent
than and I never really understood. I mean, I'm from a
small, little rinky dink town, you know, in western North
Carolina, so it was very weird to move to a place where I'm not
only exposed to Australians, but exposed to the world. I mean,
every like I said, six months was a brand new intake of
international people.
What a great education. What was that, that experience? It was,
it was college abroad.
Yep, college abroad. And,
you know, music focused in a lot of ways, it was a leadership
development kind of a thing. So I learned a lot of business
practices for, like, actually, kind of starting your own
business, but from a leadership aspect, which is cool in a
musical format, because you kind of understand, then a little bit
maybe, of how to like lead a band, which I'm still learning
every other day. You know? How do you there's one thing about
putting a band together. How do you read the band leader, direct
it, yeah, now, which is crazy and you're just crushing it on
all fronts. Rob,
trying, man, trying.
So as a band leader, do you have like, a hurrah before you go
out? You're like, Hey guys, make sure on the second verse we
talked about that. Let's have a great time. Do you know that
kind of a thing? It's
like Italy, we got that text thread. There's one that's
strictly business, and then there's one that's strictly fine
business. Yeah, there's two threads. There's two threads
strictly, strictly business and strictly funny business. And the
one we've established now is like, if, if a text comes
through this one, you better like it that you know that you
know this is where we're going. This is what we're doing. You
told me, I'm gonna say, four years ago now, which is crazy,
but you had mentioned to me that one of the biggest things a
drummer can do is is to be the person where the rest of the
band goes. I don't have to question where I'm at in a song,
right? I don't have to question where we're going, what we're
doing. You're that rock solid piece that goes, and I've really
taken that to heart rich, where it's like, I want to try to be
that, drive the band, to drive the band, but to also kind of be
this, you know, if they, if they are looking at me nervous, it's
like,
we're gonna be all right, yeah, you know, telegraph the sections
of the song totally,
and I'm still learning that. But, man, it's a, it's a heck of
a gig that way. Oh my
god. Well, I mean, geez, you guys are just going to keep
climbing and climbing and the venues keep getting bigger and
bigger. You know, I love my instruments so much I'll play
anywhere. But, you know, after you play an amphitheater or an
arena, it really is hard to go back and and play small venues,
you know, because you're just like, where's. All the people in
the bras. You know, what do you mean bras? Well, they throw the
brows on the stage. You know, they still do that, I think so
occasionally. Yeah,
I'm sure Jack gets a bra. What about to Jack bros
man's ears,
bloomers? But no, I love my I love my instrument. So, I mean,
I still, I still, I still play a wedding, still play a bar
mitzvah, but it's, isn't it fun to play big venues in a wedding
that might throw the bra you're reaching a maximum number of
people at one time, and it's like high energy, you know,
there is no, I mean, that, you know, truthfully, I am learning
that there's such an intimate experience about those smaller
venues where you can actually see all the faces, right? And
the lights aren't just there all the time, but yeah, I mean,
what? Especially that seat, the best seat in the house. You hit
that kick drum in an arena? Yeah, there's nothing like it.
And we all know that in the sense of, like, my gosh, like,
it's thunder, you know, it's like thunders in town. Yeah,
your voice is foot right, which is so crazy. And it helps when
you've introduced me to Porter and Davies, when you feel it,
did you get your one, get yourself one working on it. But
it's on my rider every time we go out. But
do you guys have you got the contact number for the guy?
Yeah, it only gets so good. I mean, I don't think they're
given any to anyone. You got to pay a little, oh yeah, because
there's two guys in a garage in Liverpool, and they're just like
Russia. I mean, you know, it's a family business. There's that
they make the rectal evinrudes. The rectal Evinrude Yes, so
I want to learn this from you guys. But how, in the different
facets of life, how do you guys balance what all that you do,
because drummer, drummer.
Because we all
actor, voice actor, actor, voice actor, yeah, how do you there's
many different myriad I'm actually learning more right
now, when I first walked in, about more what Jim does, yeah,
and you're diversifying like crazy. But how do you manage all
I mean, I find it very difficult to do that whilst touring, for
sure, I don't know. I mean, I know, in the thick of it, when
Rich was doing
he even said, whilst, whilst, whilst it's like,
how do you think? You know, I really do want to learn that,
especially at this stage, and not just career, but life where,
like, I took on, you know, I got married recently, and all those
kinds of things, and I'm learning it never
gets you guys are probably going to start soon, right?
Yeah, it's all part of it, really, yeah, well, Rob,
do you enjoy having hair?
Indeed, exactly, typically,
you know, when you get, you know, you diversify, as you so
eloquently state and you start, you start pulling your hair out
because, you know, you get spread
thin. There are days where Jim is multitasking so much, 15
podcasts, voice over, work, running a company, Father,
just jumping from one project to the next. Yeah, that's, I mean,
total. But I mean, if I, if I could, you know, how did you get
some of the I'm seeing, some of the gigs you're getting, and I'm
like, this is the stuff I should have been doing a long time ago.
I just never, either, you know, fell into it or pursued it as
much as I should have. And, you know, for me, at this stage of
doing voiceover, let's say just find somebody who can coach me.
Is a rare breed. You know, I could do a lot of coaching for
other people, but Chuck Duran, you know, he is, he did my last
demo, and he actually coached me. He could actually, I'm like,
Okay, I gotcha. You know, being humble enough after 25 some odd
years doing course, yeah, but I my voice is and my approach is
the way it is. I'm just not sure how appealable it is. You know
what I mean? Or if there's a fit out there, or even if, you know
if AI is going to be replacing all of us at some point, oh, my
God, you know. And
you just got engaged, by the way, yeah, buddy. She's the slow
burn taught me exciting things, man, it's exciting. You know,
we're all evolving, you know, constantly. But you know, if you
know, I I love to fancy myself an actor. I mean, I did study, I
did get my side card. In under five years, I have been in
legitimate productions. But let's face it, it is the ice
thing on my cake. You know, it's the icing on my cake. I don't
have time to do 80 auditions a year to try to get a sure
pharmaceutical commercial or something like that. So my plan
on doing that, and I do want to continue doing it, is trying to
develop relationships with people that thought, meet the
producer, meet the director, sure. So it is so difficult to
try to get the audition, get the call back, then you might have
to do a chemistry and then when there, oh, here's the actual
shoot. Can't do the actual shoot for it to all actually line up
and happen is nearly impossible while being a touring drummer
and on and I'll say this for rich, I've never realized how,
especially being on tour. I learned, right? I mean, like on
the concrete, they're going, where's rich going today? Yeah,
he's going and doing a clinic. He's educating at a university.
He's maximizing what he's got a whole nother realm of he's doing
a speaking engagement for the CEO of and his entire staff of
this thing. And I'm going, how does. Manage all this, like,
this is crazy, and run the band. And, you know,
how do you do it? How do you do it when? Because if you guys are
out there, and you know, you're in that part of your career
where you're like, out a lot, not coming home a lot, yes,
they're making it happen. And you got a voiceover job, you got
a mobile studio,
so the best, it's a sure SM, 88 you can buy them on Amazon.
They're like, 100 and some dollars, I swear by them. And
they come with a free app. It's called automotive or something
like that,
and finding the place to do it, yeah?
Well, I mean, you know, it's if you can be humble enough in
hotel rooms or be humble enough in a trailer, the guys
understand, I just go, Hey, look, I'm taking those pillows,
or I'm taking that mattress and I'm putting it up against the
corner of this thing. I need it quiet for 20 minutes. That's all
I need from you guys. And they laugh, and I've moved around
their stuff in busses and trailers and whatever, and just
made it work. And honestly, the best thing in the world that has
been so helpful over the years is where we're at, and I'm sure
you guys have done this, but where we're at, if we're in a
city where I can get to a studio, I'll get in an Uber and
I'll go to a studio, do a session and make sure I'm back
in time, or wake up way earlier. And it's amazing how many
studios have been so hospitable
to Hey, can I crank this out? Man, I only need an hour. That's
it. And they've been so sweet. I'm on tour, I'm doing drums,
and they see this grind that you're, you know, much like what
Rich is doing, where he's, like, you just went and spent four and
a half hours and met everyone at your clinic, yeah? And then you
came back and played for 95 minutes, yeah, or longer,
whatever it is, or the amazing thing that I would see was, and
I still don't know to this day, how you do it. A lot of people
don't know. They do a VIP, yeah, so you're doing a show before
the show, before the show. So it's kind of like a whole day
thing and working out. So I've always just, I'm trying to learn
that balance into my own life, and so it's just trying to do. I
think it's
great, dude. You're keeping it all happening, dude, I mean, and
that is amazing.
So you had mentioned this before, doing a voice off. Oh,
wow. And in all of your inboxes, I sent a small copy, like a tag,
some copy.
Oh, my God, who wants to try it first? I'll tell you, my phone's
not on because I'm trying to be a good guest. No, no, no, turn
it on. That's fine. Let
me know when you get it. Everyone's looking
what are we trying to deliver here? As far as like, however
you want to interpret, let me see here. Get some copy coming.
You know, it's a very personalized, probably a regular
guy approach. We
should do this every week. Just send each other copy,
you know, the audio message. You know,
that's fine, little group text. There's actually there was,
remember when, oh gosh, what was it called clubhouse? Remember
when clubhouse was a thing and there was voice over workout
groups that, like, three major voiceover artists would get
together, and everybody would chime in, and they'd actually
read copy and be critiqued and nice stuff. It was really cool
meetup groups. Yeah, so rich. Want to go,
I mean, without even really thinking about it, I'm just
going to go off the cuff. Okay, I'm just a regular guy who wants
the same thing everyone else does, food, family, shelter,
friends and plenty of ice cold Budweiser, just not necessarily
in that order.
I bet at all was Hey neighbor
motioning to me, yes, sir, here we go. I just got it, by
the way. I yeah, I O, U, A, E, I O, U, I would probably need to I
Aquaman, red leather, yellow leather. I'm
just a regular guy who just wants the same thing everyone
else wants food, family, shelter, friends and plenty of
ice cold Budweiser, just not necessarily in that order.
Nice is that too? Announcing,
no, not No. Actually, it was very genuine. Thank you. I'm
just a regular guy and wants the same thing. Everyone else wants
food, family, shelter, friends and plenty of ice cold
Budweiser.
It's not necessarily in that order,
and that's why he gets that
has a lot of inflection and naturalism,
just not
necessarily. I sent you another one. Oh, here's a I'll send it
to you. I don't think I said to the year we
should make this a segment in Redmond show, and make every
guest do it voice offs. Could you imagine that's a thing? I
mean, it's only right. You guys are both voice actors. So
well, if somebody's not a voice actor, it's, you know, that's
even better. Can you imagine the entertainment value? Totally
incredible.
It's a little bit longer one. Okay, I. See it refreshing.
Hello, ladies, look at your man. Now, back to me. Now, back at
your man. Now, back to me. Sadly, he isn't me, but if he
stopped using lady scented body wash and switched to Old Spice,
he could smell like he's me. Look down, back up. Where are
you? You're in a boat with the man. Your man could smell like
what's in your hand. Packet me, I have it. It's an oyster with
two tickets to that thing you love. Look again. The tickets
are now diamonds. Anything is possible when your man smells
like old spice and not a lady. I'm on a horse.
What honestly,
Hello, ladies, did you book that? No,
I mean now, like, No, I wish I did. They missed out.
I was like, He's done this? No, this is his gig.
First time I performed it. Thank you, though, give me a break.
Who's next? My God,
it's a character, though. I mean, that's probably what
helped me read it all the way through. Hey, it's almost like
my I'm channeling my brother in law. Hey, ladies, look at your
man. Now, back to me. Now, back at
your man. It's confidence man, right? It's
almost like a superhero, old school announcer. I think
I remember this one. It's the the guy on the horse. Yeah, on
the white horse. This was a good commercial. Oh, yeah. Very eye
catching. Yeah. He was like, shirtless.
I'm on a horse. So good. Who's next? Geez,
Rich. So do you have to create a character, whatever? Just
go for, go for interpretation. What's your interpretation of
it?
Do it. Come on, jeez. Man, I'm all go.
We'll go into impressions next.
Man, who's the character? Yeah, who is character? Very
confident. It's very, it's the copy is confusing. Man,
it is. It's very, you did it very well to like, I felt like I
was watching the commercial in my head all over again, because
I remember him. It was like, super cuts, right, right?
Everything was,
yeah, yeah. I might have been just impersonating the guy who
did it, but I'm
gonna stuff this one up. I feel like, because it is, it's, you
got a lot going on. It's really good, though. Also, I have just
realized that I am missing out on this QR code at the end of
how smart. Man,
that's attached to every email just immediately attaches. Jim,
I want to get something, but wait a minute. But if you have
the QR code and you're already on your phone, it defeats the
purpose, because there's nothing to snap the QR code, but it's if
you're on
you have all the links on there. You can click the links in the
JM, VO demo.
You know, we got to do, I just realized so I have a buddy who
we made a deal a decade ago, whoever, kind of whatever made,
made some traction in our industry. First, we take him out
to dinner, whatever he was an animator, of course, he made it
right? Pretty crazy. So he got hired with Pixar. He now works
for Warner Brothers, doing stuff, but he will, it's the
most fun thing ever, and I promise we will do this. He'll
send characters that he's made, that he practices with. Well,
he'll go to coffee shops, or he'll be in a studio working on
characters, right? Just that kind of come out of his head.
Yeah. So I've always said the greatest thing you could do
right as a voice actor is like, give him an animated figure and
go, what's, what's the voice of this character? So what we
should do, for sure is get three characters for him to do and
send me and Jim rich. That would be fun,
isn't that's a major goal in your life, is to do cartoon.
Yeah. I mean, you know, when you do a lot of characters and
accents, I remember the best thing I learned from a piano
teacher, believe it or not, or who, I guess you could call her
like a dual teacher, because she would do vocal and piano, which
is pretty typical, right in town, right? I don't know if
they've ever told you this, but this blew my mind. And she was
just like, hey, what's your range in voiceover? And I was
like, Well, what do you mean by that? And she's like, well,
what's your lowest note on a piano, what's your highest
probably 185 Yeah. And she goes, What's your lowest note on a
piano, what's your highest note you can hit and you may acid.
I'm not a singer. She goes, I don't care if you're a singer.
What's the lowest note you can hit? What's the highest note you
can sit? So she did that, and then she went, well, there's
your character range, yeah, there's your highest note. You
can take a character with all your different palettes of
accents or dialects or aging, and there's your lowest note,
but a character you have to embody, right, right? Like even
like Cletus T Judd said this. He says, I can't sing, but I can
sing in the key of funny. And he's basically talking about a
character, yeah? And I get what he's saying, because my, you
know, my most impersonated character is Christopher Walken,
always has been, yeah, but it's always been somebody else doing
it. That I absorb. You know, sure, Morgan Freeman might be my
latest one I've been kind of, sort of working on, but it's
Frank Caliendo. Is Morgan Freeman. He's good, he's
amazing. Oh my God, because he's all, all, all. Morgan Freeman is
an old man, and he's got to kind of look, you know, lay out the
you want to drive a point home. You got to make sure you do it
like it's genuine man, yeah, I mean, and that's, how he is. You
know,
theater for the blind is what a buddy of mine said had gone
that's true. Yeah, theater of the mind, yeah.
You know, thinking back on this, I almost feel like with
VoiceOver, I'm a one trick pony, so I don't know if it's going to
be something that's going to be on my resume for the rest of my
life, or like even
you're capable of doing it, you know, it's your your voiceover
is your character, of you in terms of being an MC, a host and
announcer. So if you were to go down that road and they want,
you know a who's the guy? Ryan ranci, Chris Ryan Seacrest,
yeah. Old Man brain. He doesn't exactly do voiceover, but he
does himself. You know, he can play himself in somebody who
imagined, who imagines a Ford commercial. Oh, we want a Ryan
Seacrest. He's gonna sound like Ryan Seacrest, yeah, you know
what I mean. But
on camera, you have all the diversity in the world. Because
I feel like people probably have said this to you so many times,
but your ethnicity could be so many things, right? Like, it
just works for camera so well, because it's like, Oh, my God,
he could be Greek, he could be Italian, he could be, you know,
Arabic, he could be Egyptian. You know, it doesn't matter.
It's like, where one actor is, like, you're the pale American,
all American boy,
technically ambiguous,
yeah, it's cool to have that, if
you had to be pigeonholed, yeah. Have you ever played like the
seemingly nice Hispanic gangster?
I have not played the gangster I've played as of recent I
played the maintenance guy, Pablo, and I grew up my mustache
and did the whole it was for a pilot of a television show,
nice. And it was the Hispanic, very like immigrant, kind of guy
looking at some of the pictures you have on your website, like
the
cowboy Marlboro thing, incredibly. Well, there's a lot
I'm typecasted. Man, that's my apparently, that's the thing,
and I follow. And, you know, well, it's just like, I don't
know what it is, but I think it's, yeah, probably what I get
mostly booked for is kids, cowboy gigs,
really. And what's that actor? What's that actor that a lot of
people are comparing you
to? John Bernthal. John Burns is like an older bro, yeah, the
Punisher. Respect the heck out of hell. He's a great actor, Man
Walking
Dead and beyond.
It's like he's almost like a step away from a Frank Grillo
too. Oh, I love
him. And I mean, you go watch fury, you know him, and Shia
LaBeouf, and though that whole crew, yeah, I don't know if
there's better acting just stuck in a tank like you're just
watching it go,
yeah, Frank Brillo did great with them. You know, lifelong
boxer fitness guy, later life actor.
Was he a boxer fitness guy? And that's, that's, oh, yes, whole
life a boxer. He played, I believe I saw him for the first
time in a Marvel movie, in the Captain America movies. He led
rumlow, that's
right, yeah, you wouldn't. One of my goals, truly is I get,
well, I gotta get a tan first again, but post summer, I wanna
do a project with rich, whether he plays my older brother, where
we just it'd be cool to do some sort of on camera thing, and
then the other like, kick the bucket thing is, he may not
remember this, but we made a PA, I said, Rich, I am pushing you
to do a comedy set. Yeah, at some point he really wants me to
go to I'm telling you, we're gonna either do a Zanies night
or we're going to Atlanta. So Jim, if you want to hop in the
truck, sure we're doing it, man. Because
guys, you know what you haven't done yet, some stand up comedy.
He would crush. You know he would crush? Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you gotta have
goodbye. I do. I'm part of a group every week, and it's like,
I know I can be funny here and get laughs and stuff like that,
because I'm in my element. Yeah, it's long form. I can take my
time whenever I'm constrained for time, especially every week
I'm in a business networking group. We get 30 seconds to talk
about a commercial of sorts, and a lot of people try to be funny,
and whenever I try to eye bomb
every Wait a minute. Wait a minute. BNI, you only have 30
seconds. Yeah, I thought that was 60 at least. Oh, well, that
in our group. So it's 30 seconds for your hard pitch, for your
business,
but it's, it's, you're doing it every week. It's like having a
billboard up Gotcha. So as long as you really can, you know,
make your messaging concise and to the point that's
not easy though, 30 seconds.
Actually, I prefer 15 because, I mean, in the radio world, it
forced somebody to think about, how do you say what you do and
say what problem you solve? Tip of the spear, type of offering
that gets the most conversation started in the smallest amount
of time. That. That's the most. That's the best thing a business
owner can do, in my opinion. You know,
hey, he's going to beat us at this game. But I think we should
move on, because he's going to win. You just don't want to do
move right? Well, I just think that the the average listener is
like, Yeah,
we're gonna win. We're now, we're they're probably like,
we're over it. Okay, so
let me ask you this to bring this back to drumming. What was
the what is your drumming like? Who's your favorite couple of
drummers? Stewart Copeland, boom, right
there, right? I mean, of course, super definable. And what's
weird is, I like some of the cuts on, like, synchronicity
that I feel like a lot of people would be like, Oh, you don't
like that or not. You don't like that one. But that's weird, go
and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. It's just like, some of the,
some of the choices you made are super cool, yeah, I of course,
just love the musicality of John Bonham, sure. I think it's super
cool that he would just throw the sticks out and then play
with his hands. And, you know, talk about a showman, you know,
like, super cool stuff like that. And, I mean, you know,
it's hard not to modern wise, adore what you do and and I, you
know, I think so much of it, too is just, you know, of course,
it's, it's cool to see my wife is an artist and a country
artist, and watching what McHugh does in the studio is really
cool. And just watching his choices and that kind of stuff,
as far as you know, modern guys that are doing it. I have a
buddy right now, absolutely, just a powerhouse drummer. His
name's Garrett Tyler, and if you're not familiar with him,
please just go check him out. He plays with a couple different
people, Mike zabilla for king and country in the kind of more
Christian, Christian girl, but he's, he's putting out records
with buddies, and he's just talk about, I think he Modern
Drummer. Chose him recently and for some sort of a cover story.
But talk about just somebody who inspires you. I will say another
Modern Drummer that I absolutely love, not to just go to
throwbacks, but modern guy is Dan McMurray, another lesser
known guy, maybe in just the full spectrum of things, but, my
goodness, an absolute machine, showman, everything else. So
it's just, I try to, like, toss it to people also, who are like,
now doing stuff that's inspiring.
Why don't we know Garrett Tyler's name? It's like, I
follow him on Instagram, or, sure, but what does he is he
play with man again, you know, Mike Seville has done some
international tours for King countries, probably one of the
biggest things in Christian music, if not. You know, their
their Christmas tours, like a go and watch him Buble or
something. I mean, it's unbelievable, the production
value of it, but Garrett's done quite a lot of session stuff.
But, man, I don't know. I just think, other than Modern Drummer
and a lot of these other entities that support drummers,
they're really keeping their eye on him, just cool and humble as
can be, which is always, you know, the greatest thing in the
world to just watch somebody be an absolute animal on stage, and
then you're like, and you're humble.
How about the Harry Myrie? He's like, Oh, dude, doesn't he? But
the Jim Carrey thing is on. It's scary,
yeah, he's we had him on via Zoom, zoom during, during the
pandemic, during the pandemic. And it's funny, because all the
girls we were in a different building, who is that? And it
was like, you know, over zoom, yeah. It's like, son, on. It's
Yeah, amazing. Talk about feeling old.
Rob, what's your favorite color? Green, forest green. What's your
favorite food? I would have to say Mexican food. Yeah, yeah.
Like, just a nice, solid. How weird, as an Italian to say that
goes. I mean, who doesn't like tacos? But I love there's
something about a burrito. I had to go the other day, especially
a breakfast burrito. You got two. Burrito. You got, you got
eggs, you got Pico, you got guac. Maybe they put a little
sausage in there, chorizo, and it's all rolled up, and it's
portable, and it's so masculine you grab this thing, and it's so
satisfying every time, it's amazing. Yeah, it doesn't
give you a gut bomb burrito. It's a little large. You know,
sometimes it it'll act like two meals. Not caliborina, not
California burritos. Where I go, Cali burrito is a good place,
but what's the place up? By Simon Zoe's Baja burrito.
Baja burrito. Oh, my God, but I do prefer California burrito
over here, by the public that's my spot. I don't know how they
stay in business. Every time I go in, it's a ghost town. Lot of
takeout. Lot of takeout. Yeah, no one sits in there. It's like
a little strange, but great burrito, yeah? Breakfast
burritos, or the California burrito, which is basically
chicken guac pico sample. They don't ruin it with a bunch of
cheese and sour cream and all that American stuff. You know,
you'd mind. You know,
have you found the best burrito in town as of yet, you've been
here a minute. Well, California
burritos, I'll tell you there, yeah, okay. I mean, because all
the Mexican restaurants, with maybe one or two exceptions, I
mean, we probably got like 13 of them, they're very chewy, right?
Well, I don't even, I'm not even sure if they're that good, you
know, I think they're. They're just kind of okay, you know, we
have the new one that opened in the old car joke, ahead. Day,
and we went there for lunch, and it's like, okay, you know, get
it, it kind of, they kind of run together. I hear you. Nothing
really, Cali burritos, California Mexican. No,
yeah. What about your favorite drink? It could be, you know,
boozy or not. Oh my gosh, you're a coffee guy, right? We share a
lot of
coffee. I was gonna say I'm absolutely addicted to coffee.
So, for sure, coffee, yeah, no doubt. And particular kind
French press, man, I do like a French press I am. I'm a very
Italian kind of like espresso, just right to the veins kind of
a thing.
You know, who he'd get along with really well. Who's that?
Mercurio,
yeah, his name, yeah, it's like, Zorro, yeah. Mike
Mercurio, he'll be here tomorrow. It's really, it's
funny because, as we're kind of talking, it's like, it's kind of
too bad you don't live around here, because he'd be a good
hang at the cigar shop. Oh, yeah. Well, he'll make
the drive. Let me say this rich before, since I get the honor of
being on the show, there's so many you know, you can walk into
any most bars in this town. And I've learned with rich that you
walk in and there's probably a good three or four people that
are just going to come out of nowhere and give Rich a hug,
yeah, not out of just even the pure music industry, but most of
the time they're drummers. And I will say it is the wildest
thing, and this is myself included, over the years, to sit
back and literally go like where you should and most certainly
could, how take all the work in the world from from you
literally prod all of us to be greater. And it's a weird thing
to know that you might not on this side of things. Might not
be where you want to be without people like that in your life.
And you are one of those people, and I can say, for just doing
this record, staying with the artists, I have the loyalty in
that regard, coming to you at weird times in life, not knowing
exactly what to do, or you've had those phone calls I've had,
or texts like rich, what? Not even, what would you do? What
would you just motion me to do? Yeah, and you have been so not,
you know, one sided on things given me a greater perspective.
And I think a lot of drummers in this town benefit their entire
futures and their families on not just education, but you
going, I'm gonna put you on my shoulders, man. So, oh, wow.
Like, truthfully, I want to say that this, this podcast, should
kind of be a place for drummers to kind of go, man, let me put
the spotlight on you, man. Because, Oh man, that's I
wouldn't be here without you. So, oh, it's true, Rob, thanks
for being in my wedding. I appreciate. I love you to
death. I really appreciate it. Was a serious honor. And have
you been listening to the recent episodes by chance? So the the
Ben satterly
is a buddy of mine, and that was so cool to see him on the show.
Like, I guess it was two or three weeks
ago. He was a he was, yeah, probably, and he's
another guy that just gives away. It's like he learns the
thing, like, how many people do you
share, shares his value and just gives it away.
And very much, like, rich in that way, where it's just like,
oh yeah, man, this program or this app or this thing, you
know,
it's like, you got to give it away if you want to keep it.
That's, that's the thing, you know. And that's, that's the
beautiful thing is, and especially in this, you know,
season of my life, I don't want to be like, Oh my God, I need
your you know, I need Geritol. But it's just, you know, you get
to a point where you've required some wisdom, and it's like, what
am I going to do? I want to give it away, you know. And I'm not a
genius, but I just know that if people have moved here, they
want to do the thing. If they show up with a smile and a firm
handshake, they're doing the best they can at all times and
trying to exceed expectations. You could buy a house and have a
life. Man, you could be part of this music community. Man, we
have a great one. You know,
it's unreal. Go read Rich's book, by the way. Oh, thanks,
buddy. I can, honest to God say I've read it twice and
making it a country music Yeah, thanks, buddy. Absolutely. It
should actually be required reading. It all college music
programs. But anyway, you just, I mean, you have to have
somebody working on your behalf all day long on a phone going,
you know, calling every library, every college, every prison in
the United States, going, do you have a copy of this? You got to
do a book tour, right? You know. And does that really, you know,
help ROI or sales, I don't know. It's books are hard. You have it
available, though, clinics, you know, here's my book, yeah,
yeah, it's awesome. We are going to have a booth at the Music
City drum show, and the co author of my book Making a
country music, Jennifer de la Sanna, hey, another Italian.
She's going to be there with Jim McCarthy at the booth. We're
going to have a nice step and repeat. We're gonna have a lot
of my products. I won't be there on the Saturday, but you can say
hi to Jim and Jen, and then I'll be there on the Sunday.
I'll be fielding a lot of questions, like, where's rich?
But it's
cool. You can talk drums, and then you get their email
address. We got an email list for you guys. It's gonna be fun.
It
was funny, speaking of getting recognized, you know when you he
goes and you go with him play? Yeah, 34 so my brother comes to
town over this past weekend, and we go to jbjs, and up there on
the top level, you can actually look down on the drummer and
watch him and stuff like that. So we're both just sitting here
having a drink, and they wanted to experience Nashville in that
realm. So, you know, they finished the song, and I start
clapping. The guy looks up at me, and he does double take, and
he goes, You're Jim McCarthy,
yeah. Okay.
That means somebody has tuned into our program. Somebody's
actually watched the video. It's really amazing, hey, so we know
about his favorite colors, favorite drink, his favorite
food. Do you have some of those deep questions, or do you want
to go in with the
question? The the deep question. The deep question would be, if
you had to forego all things to be played for the rest of your
life and only play one artist in a tribute band?
Oh, my God. What would that artist be
like my till the day you die, you can't play anything else
over and over
and over again.
Okay? And it can't it only can be yeah one, yeah. I Okay. They
were a duo, but I would yeah for forever play their music, log
ins and Messina. Wow. Interest Absolutely. Yeah,
they have enough hits, though. I mean, your mama don't dance and
your daddy don't rock and
roll like vehavala That song, the that record, specifically
from a drummer's point of view, please. If you're a drummer or
percussionist, whatever, go listen to that record. And what
they did live in the studio, it's, it's a wonderment of fun.
And they went on trails of three minutes after the song. You
don't get tired of it. They switch time signatures, they
switch tempo. Was
that something coming up that your parents turned you onto or
something my dad?
Yeah. I mean, my dad was the music. It was the tastemaker,
yeah, it was, like, it was weird, because we grew up in
like, ministry, but at the same time, he was the cool dad, who
was the hippie way back when, and was, like, knew all the good
music, yeah, and so on the way we'd be on the way, he was the
principal of my school, so I grew up. Wow, kid, yeah, which
is, well, I don't know if you knew that your dad is a
principal. He loves Rich Dad, Bob ricotta, very Italian. Hey,
cheese.
John Morgan's dad, nice cabinet. Drive the bus for you guys. You
know,
yeah, that's right, but yeah. So log ins and Messina, I would
say, Wow.
You are an old soul, totally an old soul. Love it. So our friend
Jack Bruno has been playing for Jim Messina, and they just
played a show over at the Franklin theater in Franklin,
Tennessee, and I missed it. Yeah, and
the sax player for his band will be playing with me. Oh,
there you go. Yeah. See this next? Steve Nieves, what a
community, yeah, what an incredible community. What's the
best way for folks to get in touch with you guys? Get that
got a.com or something? Or
robertri.com, R, I, C, O, T, T, A, if you can't remember it,
it's the cheese in every Italian dish. Robert, ricotta.com. Nice.
That's easy. Easiest way to get a hold of me. That's amazing.
And then obviously, socials. It's wild worlds. How many
people? Yeah, well, that's
easy. Drums come from John
and I was because of the cheese, a friendship, you know,
conversation where he went, Look, man, you can't just post
all, like, my voice over and acting stuff, and I'm like, All
right, and he kind of gave me a hard time about it. And I said,
Yeah, you're right. You know, we're on the road the majority
of the time and and I said, Well, I'm gonna make a bit of a
fool of myself. I'm not a chops guy, and my last name's a
cheese. Someone just call it cheesy drums, amazing. So that's
but our ricotta is Instagram, and that's that's also, as you
know, social media is like, the it's weird. You can message
people through there now, and it's okay.
Lot of people send me DMS like people, even though want to take
my drum drum lessons or our drum 10s of it. And I was like, Hey,
man, here's my number. Yeah, I prefer texting. I really do,
because I'll see it fit more than agree. I don't have my
notifications on from the socials. Otherwise the phone
would be like a Christmas
you're so good at getting right back. I try to get back to
people
immediately. Immediately. I try that. I try it's great. I really
do. You're good
at that. If you go to his website, you're gonna get finger
fatigue. Looking at the pages as brands, in my voice just keeps
on going.
Now, didn't you do some high end car brands like
Porsche? Claire just did your Indian Motorcycle reached out,
and I've loved their brand for a long time, just because they
literally their motorcycles got us through the First World War,
which is crazy. So they're like 110 year old parts of history,
and they re released their motorcycle that basically
started their brand way back when, and they said, Hey, would
you be the voice of our company? And I was like, Man, that's
crazy. So that's been a really fun one recently to work on with
them. Yeah, I've done some some car stuff over the years, and I
always say, like, low. Voices that move you are always going
to sell chocolates and cars
to you, and there's jewelry, some some trailers like video
games,
yeah, just that's a World Man, like, you know, when you have
just goals for yourself, right? That's it's another thing I feel
like with to your point of AI, it's like we got to keep up with
the times of where things are going. And it's like video games
are truly cinematic. Now it's just unbelievable. They really
are. And so getting a part of trailers for video games was a
goal of mine in the last year and a half was to just really
pound that pavement and find people that I really aligned
with, and especially characters and showing that side of what I
do. So thankfully enough, I've been working a lot with a brand
called Counter Strike, but they do a lot of competitions around
the world, and been doing all their trailers, which is cool,
and it allows me to
they kind of give me free reign. They don't,
they don't hire another actor. They go, we want you to do all
five voices in this trailer. Oh, it's really, really fun. Oh, my
God, switch on the spot and it's fun. Yeah, have conversations
with yourself. Going, my wife thinks it's just the weirdest
thing ever, because, you know, I'll wake up audio books. It's,
well, it's strange, you know, you switch on the fly. People
think it's a session where you're like, Oh, I'll go, we'll
do that character tomorrow. And it's like, no, you're doing them
like, in, you
know, yeah, holy cow. But that isn't
credible. So it's, it's a wild world that way, but it is fun.
It's a lot of fun, I bet.
Yeah, that's a goal. Congratulations on that. Thank
you being achieved. You know, I was talking to our friend Thomas
Lang about doing video games. And of course, you know, video
games as a as an economy, are like, they are way above music.
Yeah,
above every I mean, video games are their own ecosystem. It is.
And he goes, you would not believe the budget to these
things. So he says, like armed security guards will come to his
house with hard drives because that hard drive has all the
confirmation of the in the FBI never fell on the wrong so it
literally Brinks. Security trucks come with these guy,
muscle guys. They show up in the house. There's a guy at the door
they, he's like, Who's that? Well, that's my child. That's my
kid. You know, is he going to be here during and there's like, a
whole budget, and they've got budget for, like, you fill out
the budget, because they have to spend the money. So he's, like,
napkins, toilet paper, coffee catering for the next several
days. That all shows up at the house, and then these guys are
there while he's tracking and, you know, he's playing on all
the like the, you know, that's the last beat stuff. I would
never get called for that stuff, I mean, but it'd be cool at some
point to do some sort of a video game. That'd be neat 100% our
friend Tony Mora does all Mora does a lot of those too. I
recorded Tony's house a lot. He does a lot of those with the
fast feet and stuff.
So cool. Man, I feel like these. Another example, just the other
day, watching on a flight the Grand Theft Auto thing, you
know, coming up. Been going, you look at it. You go, it. This is
absolute cinema quality, like the storyline, everything and
you're going, this is where we're headed.
And then the actors, with the with the things they put on,
they've got to do the motion captures and easy. What an
industry. Yes, some kid is literally just becoming just a
schlep in his room, you know, not getting any exercise.
No, the joke is, right? They're making three times we make daily
in these competitions. Oh, yeah, rooms. I mean, you know,
games tournaments. Oh, and eSports, they do it on Twitch.
They're making that
right, you know, six figures a month, and where they can get
you and we're over here, yeah, King Kong,
going, Wait a second. I'm like, Dude, I'm destroying my body.
Hey, Rob, the human body. Amazing. 25 days ago, I thought
my career was over. I was washing the dishes, coffee mug
handle lacerated. My money making finger where the fulcrum
or the stick sits right there, blood all over the wall,
spraying. I get up, Kara's out of town, Jim's busy. I Uber to
the Spring Hill. Er, I get there, they put five stitches in
there. I'm going, oh my god, what am I? Am I gonna lose
nerves? Am I? Am I gonna have feeling? Am I gonna my drumming
ever gonna be the same? Perfect recovery. God, look at that.
Right there, right
there. And that is your, like, money hand to your snare hand.
So everyone was like, what'd you do with your April? I pray to
God. I just watched this thing heal. Wow, didn't pick up a
stick, or that could have been
crazy. Could have been bad, could have been bad,
but it wasn't because of the big G in the sky. Rob ricotta,
thanks for being here. Man, oh my gosh. Man, wonderful to spend
this time. Good to meet you. I'm just so glad maybe you guys can
do the thing. You can have synergy. You can join voice over
groups together. You can have voice battles, table readings,
yeah,
yeah, that's exactly. So I've never done any of that kind of
stuff. I really need to get more into it. I just never had an
opportunity. It's really
fun where you're about to do it. And so people can contact you on
the socials, and they can see you on tour with John Morgan,
and they could see you play your. New number one song,
friends like that. Awesome. Congratulations on playing on
the new record, Carolina blue. Appreciate it. Rob, love you
buddy. Thanks for the gifts. Of course. Love you man. Let's get
social. Maybe we'll go smoke a cigar right now. Done. Nice,
Jim. Thank you for all your time and talent, of course, as
always. And to all the folks out there, thank you so much for
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