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point. He really wants me to go,
telling you we're gonna either

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do a Zanies night or we're going
to Atlanta. So Jim, if you want

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to hop in the truck, sure we're
doing it, man. Because

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guys, you know what you haven't
done yet, some stand up. He

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would crush. You know? He would
crush? Yeah, yeah.

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This is the rich Redmond show.
Have you

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seen Wolfgang Van Halen? Latest
video? The music video? No. It's

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like a reimagining of thriller
directed by Robert Rodriguez,

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whoa, and it's like zombies in
it, and he's getting attacked

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and everything. Have you not
seen this? No came out eight

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days ago as of this recording,
and he actually does a

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reenactment. I want to say it's
in this video, a reenactment of

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his father's iconic table walk
guitar solo from odd for

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teacher. Oh yes, that is
Wolfgang. Well, I love Robert

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Rodriguez, I know you do. That's
why I'm telling you. I love

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zombies. I know you do. That's
why I'm telling you.

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Salma Hayek was great in that
movie. You

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know, if I knew that about you,
you love horror movies. I love

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all

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horror movies. This is our
guest, Rob ricotta. He's the

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best. He's He's a multi talent.
Jim, I thought that you would

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enjoy today, because Rob does so
many things. You know what? I

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mean? He's a hyphy, right? Like
you and I are hyphys, like we're

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juggling so many balls. It's
like balls. I can't even say

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what it's like, because I'll get
canceled. But anyways, you know

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today, you know, today's guest
is a drummer. He's also an

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actor. He's a voice actor, he's
a model, he's a songwriter. You

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know, we've been friends, seems
like a very, very long time, but

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we're just kind of looking back
at at our history here. We

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originally met because he plays
with a amazing recording artist

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on John Jason aldeans label,
John Morgan, and he was playing

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with John, just he and John on
our rock and roll cowboy tour in

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2022 and he was all done up
every night, just ready to do

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the thing. He looked like a
million bucks. And he was doing

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like a stand up, kind of like a
cocktail kit kind of a thing.

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But instead of, like the the
upward facing kick pedal on the

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floor tom and that whole thing,
it was like an SPDs X, and had

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all the cool sounds, and he
could change the sounds for each

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song, and he had the pedal
going. And it was like hyper

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visual. And I was like, Oh, I
can get behind this kid. Who is

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this kid, right? And I get to
learn more about him. And then

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they come back for the second
iteration of that tour, in 2023

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our rock and roll cowboy tour.
But it's electric, and he's got

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the full band going. And now I
get to see him, see him play

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drums, and learn more about him.
Like, oh, you're a voiceover

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guys. Like, Well, man, I was,
you know, I was like, I just was

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in LA for five years trying to
get my sag card. I play a lot of

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cops and detectives and so, you
know, we, you know, we became

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fast friends, and I even
attended this young man's

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wedding. Now,

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not attended. You were a
groomsmen.

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You are so, right. So, like,
here I am. It's like,

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you forgot that you would, you
stood up at his wedding. Well,

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there was

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Yeah, but the thing is, is that
he didn't work me, like, right

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John Hall, my drum tech, who
said, can you be the MC, the DJ

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and do the toast? And I was
like, Yes. I had, like, cue

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cards. I had this huge PA
system. I was doing the thing.

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It was good for me, because,
guys, I am going to be a DJ. I

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mean, I am going to be DJ.
Redmond, that's that's your

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thing. I'm going to charge
$10,000 starting bid is going to

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be $10,000 but, I mean, Rob's
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He's known John Morgan for many,
many years. Fantastic drummer,

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like I said, multi talent. This
is our new friend, Rob Ricardo.

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Thanks for being here, man.

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Gosh, what an honor to be here.
Thank you both. Bring that mic

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over. A little bit more for you.
Absolutely. That's good. Okay,

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great,

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you know. And you know, I pride
myself on, you know, this at

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this particular chapter of my
life, you know, having the full

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package, you know, I want to
have like a you know, I want my

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expensive haircut, and I want to
look like I'm ready for the gig

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at all times. Jim's like
yesterday, Jim goes, you look

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like you're ready to jump on
stage at all times, even if you

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go to Publix but, but Rob takes
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think it's like the modeling
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like, you're the Marlboro Man. I
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looking and so put together that
my own fiance won't use me as a

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model. She's using you as she
uses your bride as a model. It

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was cool

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to see you're a good looking
couple. Bri, oh no, I appreciate

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it so much. Yeah, it was cool to
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one of her shoots. And honestly,
she wears those T shirts all the

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time now, which is great. Yeah,
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nice green hills, but it's green
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design of Beverly Hills, because
Let's fake it, face it if you're

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living in Greg and green hills,
oh yes, you've done

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okay. Exclusive pickleball
courts,

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cocktails, direct

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access to Trader Joe's Nord
sprouts,

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no traffic. Oh

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yeah, a horrible Hillsborough
road. Hello, yeah. But

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everywhere is Hillsborough road,
and now we're in you. We are in

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Spring Hill, Tennessee, which
has been a community since the

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late 1800s and it was probably
horse and buggy two lane roads,

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and still is. There's nowhere to
there's no way to expand the

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roads here. We're just going to
be dealing with like LA style

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traffic in Spring Hill. But it's
good. I'm loving the

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lifestyle. Beautiful. Oh my
gosh, it's beautiful out here.

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It's very calm.

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We have sidewalks in farmland as
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so cool to you know, we had some
good times and on those tours,

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yeah, it was post COVID. Right
after COVID, there was a

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few times I know you remember as
well, we'd show up. And there

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was still some of the states
that were so highly liked locked

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that 99 crew of you guys. That's
a machine show up, and they're

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like, What do we do? Do we ask
these people to put mask on? Do

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we not and it was kind of funny
watching it all go down, because

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we lived this for two, three
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well, so this state, we'll see
how this state goes, and then

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move on to the next one tomorrow
night. But, yeah, it's

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interesting time.

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But dude, you're a showman, you
know, everything you do. I mean,

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the way you were playing the
SPD, SX, and, you know, now I'm

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seeing you in music videos, and
you guys have been doing a lot

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more press lately. I saw you.
You guys did a thing on the

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Kelly Clarkson show. You were on
that TV show, American song

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contest, you know. And you, you
let the hair down, like your

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hair is up right now, and this,
yeah, it's kind

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of a weird how long is your
hair? And right now you want to

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let it down rock and roll,
Sunset Strip, yeah, it's down

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here. Yeah, it's down here. It's
kind of, you got, like, the

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whole gamut going. It's, I don't
know, man, I think it's half out

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of proxy, all our guys. It's
actually one of those things

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we're going through as a band
right now. And it's like, we're

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about to just call it hair
country or something, because

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all our guys somehow just ended
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wasn't by I think it's just
living again. I mean, you guys

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know that. What I

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mean is that you got the acting
thing, the voice over thing, the

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modeling thing, the you have
your hair, which still, which

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some of us can't say,

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he's not having to dig into the
finasteride just

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yet. Well, it's, it's strange.
And I will say, like, do you

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play sports, or are you a
professional athlete? No, I

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wish. I do love I played soccer
all growing up, and still played

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here and there, but we played so
much pickle on tour with these

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guys. I don't play pickle loads
of fun, though.

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Of course, you don't. They're
too they're too competitive.

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These guys, they take all the
fun out of it.

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They don't anymore. I heard
though, are they done? Are they

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still playing?

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Yet to play a game of
pickleball, we'll find out. Have

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you ever played a

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game? We've been sitting around
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So may 19, we jump into
rehearsals for three days, and

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we start our tour on May 22 in
Cincinnati, at the blossom.

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Thank god. I can't wait to play
these 24 songs again with my

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best friends. Hello. Are you?
Did you ever play pickleball?

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Never tried it, buddy? Because
I'm always like, doing my

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stretching or my running or
lifting weights or doing Yeah,

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I'm more of like a man against
himself, man against nature.

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It. Listen, it's like watching
the rocky montage when you do go

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out on tour with rich, because
it's true, like you get you're

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like, 1130 to the like, right
before lunch kind of thing. He's

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soaking, dripping wet out there,
just doing his thing. And he

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puts all the younger guys to
shame, because you're like, oh,

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man, I just woke up and Rich is
getting after it. And so it kind

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of makes you, like, pick
yourself up a bit and be like,

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Wow, I better not eat crappy.

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Worry about it, because you got
you, got you. No, it's not true,

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man, I'm having to but yeah,
yeah, me too. That's, you know,

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what Rich I will say it's weird
coming from you to say you're a

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showman Rob, because, as we know
like it truthfully, is the

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ultimate experience, the
succinctness of you in a studio

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and the succinctness of you
live. It's untouchable. So it's

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weird to come from one a friend,
but two, a fellow musician, and

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go, Hey, you're a showman.
Because I that's like, the most

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succinct thing about you as a
player. Oh,

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man, I appreciate it. But you're
just totally coming into your

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own in your drum career. You've
had this voiceover career for 14

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years, you know, which is
amazing, and we'll get into

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that. And because I, and because
I, and I thought you'd be an

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amazing guest, because you can
do some kibitzing with Jim, you

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know, because he's been a radio
does the voice over, all that

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kind of stuff. So you guys have
a lot in common. But, you know,

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just watching you get your
endorsements together, you know,

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your dream symbols. And, hey,
I'm a drum dial artist, and I'm

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playing collision sticks. And
you know, you're doing the

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thing, you know, and you're I
just because I remember those

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days, those years of that, the
first couple of years of being

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hungry, and, you know, you're
building something. You're

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getting all your allies and your
team together, so exciting.

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And you've, man, it's been so
cool. Just the few times as

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well, you've said, hey, look
beyond Can I do anything for

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you? You need to meet these guys
at innovative or you need to

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meet, you know, not just symbol
people, but great people in the

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industry that are long standing,
that actually are major quality

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in what they do. And now being
able to use some of those things

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on records, like little
percussive things, have been so

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cool, like, so I appreciate that
as well. And, yeah, I think.

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Most of these people that we've
gotten the opportunity to build

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relationship with, it's just
that you're like, Man, I hope

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you're rounding in 10 years
while I'm doing this or

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whatever.

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Now, this artist that you're
playing with, John Morgan, you

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guys go way back back to high
school days, so fill us in on

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that

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history. Our bass player,

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not unlike you guys, it was, it
was really cool to see and watch

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your relationship with Kurt and
Tully and Jason and understand

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that storyline, because it did
mirror a lot of what just

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knowing each other musically,
and then knowing each other from

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afar and going, man, what does
this look like when we put it

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together? Kind of a thing. So
our bass player and John and

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myself actually the bass player
and John was a rival high school

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to mine, so we grew up playing
sports against each other in the

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world where we come from, it's
bluegrass music, and so there's

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no drums. No, you have to
washboard it. You know, do you

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do the washboard thing? That's
where, believe it or not, I

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started on bongos and Congos way
back when. But, yeah, you had

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to, like, learn

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some risky Skaggs has got some
drums a little bit, you're

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right. And

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Union Station, sometimes, aside
from mandolin, has like, a

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little bit of a shaker or
something,

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really fast train beats. But

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nowadays it like, back, you
know, when it changed, they

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went, it's an indoctrination of
our, you know, to put drums on

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bluegrass. So that, at that
time, we were trying to do that.

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And I think it was just like,
No, no, don't do that. Yeah, but

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yeah, we all were in bluegrass
music of some kind. We played in

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different bands and and I knew
of John, and it was just a pass

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by in a studio that the engineer
said, You need to stay back and

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listen to this guy's voice. So
I'd been writing that day with a

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friend. We'd been doing a
session in our small, little

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studio, and he said, man, just
stay back. And I heard John sing

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for the first time, and it was,
you know, like a movie. It's in

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a little vocal booth, comes out
of the vocal booth. And I said,

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Man, you know, did you write
that song? Kind of a thing? He

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said, Yeah. I said, who'd you
write it with? He said, I just

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wrote about lonesome. And I, you
know, I suppose at that moment,

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it really was like a magic that
just I went, I'll do I think I'd

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do anything for people to be
able to hear that. I'll do

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whatever it takes for people to
hear that. And I'm looking at

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videos recently, especially him
just having a number one a week

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ago. I looked back at the ones
in the studio going like, Man,

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I'm so glad that people just
know John Morgan now, yeah, you

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know that is enough for me,
almost for people, to kind of

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take him as a household name, if
you will.

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He's becoming a household name
swiftly. And so did you move to

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Nashville first and then say,
Hey, John, you really got

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to get here six months? Yeah,
I'd gone to enough writers

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rounds like, I'm sure you guys,
you know when you when you move

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here, I think it's you. What's
weird about Nashville is, is, I

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don't know if you agree with
this or not, but I've found that

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Nashville, if you move here, you
have a seat at the table. It's

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not, it's not necessarily like
in New York LA, where it's like,

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man, you gotta just absolutely
not that you don't have to grind

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here. But what I mean is, is
that people go, if you're here,

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what's the first question? Do
you live in Nashville? Yeah. And

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then it's like, yeah, we can
write if you don't live in

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Nashville, nah. I'm good. You
know what? I mean, yeah. Gotta

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be here. You gotta be here. And
so seeing enough rounds, there's

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less gate gatekeepers here.
Totally, yeah, totally. So yeah,

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it

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moved here six months. And I
just said, John, whenever you

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get the chance. It's, you know,
it's cool to work doing

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maintenance or at a tire shop or
whatever, you can do whatever

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you want. But I'll tell you, if
you really want to do music, you

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got to move where music is. And
so thankfully, took me my word

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and and moved

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here. Best advice ever. And
then, I mean, he does have just

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such an amazing voice. He looks
like a young James Taylor. You

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know what I mean, he really
does. He does, and he's had, you

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know, since you know, thank God
you can visit him to move to

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town. He's earned cuts with John
party, Dustin Lynch, Thomas red,

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16 tracks with Jason Aldean.
Maybe it's even more now,

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including the number one trouble
with a heartache at the Grammy

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nominated, which was Grammy
nominated ACM Single of the

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Year, if I didn't love you, with
Carrie Underwood, the current,

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our current single whiskey
drink, and you guys are

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celebrating a number one with
Jason Aldean. Yeah, friends like

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that. Friends like that. Yeah,
amazing. Congratulations, crazy,

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crazy. You're in the video. All,

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yes, you know. But the best part
is, where it started is you guys

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playing on all John's stuff, and
that's exactly what happened

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with the first number one. Is
All You guys are on friends like

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that. And it's really cool. It's
full circle, because I feel like

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Jason, taking a shot on John and
your whole team, taking us under

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your wing on tour for two years
in a row, which is unheard of,

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in my opinion, in the industry,
to just go and we're not only

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taking you one year, we're gonna
believe in you again. You again.

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And here's a full band thing. It
just is so right, in my opinion,

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to have the story be Hey, by the
way, all the guys that took you

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under and and lifted you on
their shoulders are the ones

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that got the number the first
number one on that artist. So

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it's so cool to hear you first
one. Well,

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thank you, and you listening to
your drumming. Let's celebrate

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you. You got this amazing
relationship with John going way

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back. You know you've earned his
respect. He trusts you, and he

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invites the band to play on his
latest record, Carolina blue,

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which dropped April 25 was
produced by Brent Anderson. Guy

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used to play in his demos, God,
15 years ago, tell us about that

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process.

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It the ruckus room in town,
which I wasn't familiar with.

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How many great records had been
made there, over there in

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Berryhill, in Berryhill, and
it's kind of, again, off of, not

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the main strip there in Berry
Hill, but it's like up on a

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hill. Yep, a very unassuming
place. And, you know, big, wide

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door, you Oh, you go through,
but now it's farmland. Studios

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is operating out of that
building, and it just has good

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juju, if you will. Like, you
walk in and you're like, Man, I

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just it feels like a very
comfortable space to make

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records. It's one of the last
places like a sound in Portman

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town. I think that's got that
mid grade studio feel like it's

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obviously high end, but it's
still what I mean is is

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accessible to people like us who
are rookies and trying to cut

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our teeth in this industry.
Yeah, so it feels like the

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engineer is not going to be all
over your butt the whole time

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he's working with guys that are
greener. I think it's really so

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sweet, if you will, to have
somebody in there who gives you

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suggestions, and nobody has an
ego. You're just learning.

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You're learning in there. And I,
you know, it's a completely

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different experience for me,
being in the studio. I've had

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little hints of it, but being in
there and almost living there

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for a week, you know, you go in
there and you have a limited

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amount of time to do something.
But I think that trying to get

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gold, if you have people there
that are constantly saying, Man,

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you know, I'd love to bring a
little bit of you, have more of

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you on the instrument, rather
than just the parts, yeah, I

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felt like that was such a weird
thing to be have the ability to

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do.

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Yeah, congratulations. I wish I
had known man, you. I mean, all

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of a sudden I realized, oh my
god, John's got a full length

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record. He uses band. That's
great, because it just does.

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It's happening more often
nowadays, but still pretty rare.

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It's so easy for, you know, when
there's money at stake and

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there's the stakes are so high,
it's like, call the guys, call

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the team. You know what? I mean,
the guys that are got their

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studio tans every day, because
it does take a little bit more

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work sometimes to get a bunch of
guys that don't do it all time

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to create the product. But you
had a whole week awesome, and

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it's easy to get good catering
in Berryhill, there's a lot of

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restaurants in rate,

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and also not be that way.

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Yeah, Brent Anderson was, was
really great about this as well.

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He did a lot of it, being our
kind of first time doing a full

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length record in that way. He
did a lot of pre production on

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it for us. And so he rounded out
the experience of just going,

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Hey, percussion, little loot,
stuff like that. Let's not like,

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I'm not gonna have those. Why
don't you play those things too,

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and it reminded me of you as
well, because there was so much

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of that you listen to Jason's
records over the years where all

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that stuff, you're like, No, no.
Like, rich played that that's

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not just some random drum loop
that's playing on an spdx, or,

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you know, shakers here, or
trying to seven different

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tambourines. And you're like, I
think this one will work. That's

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the. What? So that was so cool.
He let us do that with symbols,

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and we tried different snares.
And

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the future is so bright. It's
cool. I mean, that is great.

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Congratulations. Thank you.
Thank you. Big, big. You

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told me that was, I mean,
honestly, was all coming, man,

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yeah, I think it was. I texted
you the other day and I said,

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Rich. It's crazy how you kind of
predicted that a bit, but it was

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like, man, if you just you told
me, he said, Man, if you just

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continue to show up, I really
believe that, especially the

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recording bit, is in your
future. Yeah. And it was like,

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you know, I didn't expect it to
be now, but it was kind of like

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clockwork. I was like, Man, I
guess he was right, you know,

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so Well, the thing is, is you're
coachable, you're teachable,

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you're affable, you're all the
bulls, you know, yeah, I mean,

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it's like, it's, you're just a
likable guy, and and you're a

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team player, and so, you know.
And John just seems like a loyal

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guy, you know, he's a grounded
dude, you know, which is great.

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So, Wow,

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isn't that cool, Jim? That's
cool. Super critical. Yeah, man.

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Now, when this comes out, Jim
will probably have played his

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gig at the city winery. Jim is a
drummer. Get out of here. He

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kind of hasn't done it in public
a lot for like, maybe, like, 18

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years, but now he joined the
Huey Lewis tribute band, and

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they're playing the city winery
on May 28 Yes, and I'll be

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there. I'll be I'll have my
flatbread and my wine. I'll be

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watching. It'll be great. And
Jim, should I sit up nice and

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close, or should I sit way in
the back? I

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don't care where you sit.

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That's a nice room, by the way,
but I spent a lot of time. I

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really

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want to look out and see you
just going

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like this, taking notes I

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can be transcribing. Yeah. Yeah.
You

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know you don't just go and play
in a Huey Lewis tribute man, by

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the way, you got to, like, know
that he's got it. Like,

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yeah, it's true. It's it's given
me a vast appreciation for Bill

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Gibson, yeah, who we've had on
the show several months ago.

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But, yeah, yeah, he's that guy's
a juggernaut. That's he doesn't

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get enough recognition. He
deserves a lot more. You know,

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Bill

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is a very shucks guy. He's not
the kind of like,

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except when we asked him about
the mailbox money, he's like,

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yeah, the walks to the mailbox
are always fun.

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Well, yeah. I mean, lives in the
Bay Area, and that's not cheap.

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Yeah. You know, Carolina blue,
everyone. Check that out,

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performed by the band. That's
incredible. And so you guys are

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telling me about your recent
tours, two tours for Al Dean,

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tours for Ernest, Riley, green,
Nate Smith, Jameson, Rogers,

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00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:37,820
what's coming up? Kane Brown,
Old Dominion. But we were your

426
00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:38,480
favorite, right?

427
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,700
Undeniable enough to be like,
Rich. Come on, where's the best

428
00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:43,540
at my wedding? But

429
00:22:43,540 --> 00:22:46,120
we also have like, scars, you
know, we had a good time out

430
00:22:46,120 --> 00:22:47,800
there. Oh, my god, yeah. So

431
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,320
much. Your cigars every night,
well, we drink

432
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,540
too much. Yeah? Most nights
enough for rich to go. Is this

433
00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:57,640
gonna give me mouth cancer,
right? 100%

434
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,220
does the tip of your tongue
supposed to touch it a little

435
00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:07,140
bit, because that's what she
said. He would always go, am

436
00:23:07,140 --> 00:23:10,020
I inhaling this? Should I be
inhaling? I'm like, No, you

437
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,220
don't inhale. You don't it's

438
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,180
not a cigarette. But now my
chops are strong. Now we have

439
00:23:15,180 --> 00:23:19,140
the most amazing cigar bar, I
say, in Middle Tennessee, in

440
00:23:19,140 --> 00:23:21,860
Spring Hill. Get out the
mission. You know, tell me about

441
00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:23,360
right there, like, right there.

442
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,100
We may be visiting this.

443
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:30,140
I'm listening to his baritone in
his voice, yeah, it's very, it's

444
00:23:30,140 --> 00:23:33,740
a clear baritone that's going on
there, very and he sings and

445
00:23:33,740 --> 00:23:36,560
does the whole deal. And right,
of course, he does, yeah, just,

446
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,900
you just miss, I can't believe,
you know, you just got the

447
00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:41,140
professional athletic you gotta,
like, become

448
00:23:41,140 --> 00:23:45,040
a football player. Yeah, work
out more now. Just learn how to

449
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,340
throw a football. There you go.
Kick a foot. You're a soccer

450
00:23:48,340 --> 00:23:51,400
player. Oh, that's true. You
could be a public kicker,

451
00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:54,940
thinking too old for pro sports.
That'd be cool, though, because,

452
00:23:54,940 --> 00:23:58,600
like, typically, actors want to
be be musicians, athletes.

453
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,700
Athletes want to be musicians.
You know, everyone

454
00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:05,040
does that is weird. You got it
all going

455
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,680
on. It's a grass is greener
thing, which is, like, is a

456
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,520
human condition.

457
00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:11,160
But I don't know, is it
reciprocal with musicians, with

458
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,400
being like, Oh, I'd love to be
it. I think it's also sometimes

459
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,060
like, oh, musicians. Maybe I
found this. Maybe you have as

460
00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:22,400
well. But being in the acting
world as well, you feel like you

461
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,580
go, Oh, man, I'd love to be a,
you know, six foot whatever,

462
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,780
tall actor or tall sports
person. I feel, I feel that

463
00:24:29,780 --> 00:24:32,960
sometimes I'm like, Man, oh,
that guy's a stud. Love

464
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,480
to be tall, you know, you got
more places to put your food.

465
00:24:36,380 --> 00:24:38,900
And I'm Italian, I like to eat,
you know. So you get you're

466
00:24:38,900 --> 00:24:41,740
taller, that's right, you can,
but the same time you require

467
00:24:41,740 --> 00:24:44,860
more food if you're taller. So
it's all a balance. It's all

468
00:24:44,860 --> 00:24:49,480
discipline, it's all discipline.
It really, really is so. But how

469
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,900
did you originally get into
music? Wasn't it a spiritual

470
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:54,940
thing? Aren't you like, a like?
Weren't you involved in the

471
00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:58,120
church? Well, my so my parents
were in ministry growing up,

472
00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:01,860
kind of a thing. And. It,
funnily enough, my parents were

473
00:25:01,860 --> 00:25:05,520
in a, I mean, I had done little
garage band kind of things with

474
00:25:05,580 --> 00:25:08,280
friends and stuff that played
any type of music. But, yeah, my

475
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,820
parents were in a, I suppose
you'd call it, like a church,

476
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:15,780
worship or praise team kind of
thing. Yeah, that's very common.

477
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,240
The drummer got sick, drummers,
yeah, and it was one of those

478
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,960
things. So he said I used to
play like, hilariously enough,

479
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,800
it was, it was still the early
2000s or late 90s, I guess you

480
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,860
could say, and I was doing
bongos and Congas right up

481
00:25:27,860 --> 00:25:30,620
there, doing the thing like
McConaughy, yeah, and the

482
00:25:30,620 --> 00:25:33,140
drummer got sick one day, and
they just said, you can you jump

483
00:25:33,140 --> 00:25:36,380
on a kit? And I said, I guess, I
don't know. I've watched him

484
00:25:36,380 --> 00:25:40,600
every whatever, so that was part
of it. But yeah, actually, it

485
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,700
really came out of my mother
made me learn piano. You've hear

486
00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:45,700
this story a million times,
right? Somebody's mom or someone

487
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:48,040
in the family makes them learn
piano. They hate piano, and

488
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,100
they're like, I don't want to
practice. That was me. And so I

489
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:54,760
finally said, Mom, I'm looking
at drummers going that that is

490
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,580
what I want to do. I don't know
how to get there, but that is

491
00:25:57,580 --> 00:26:01,260
the instrument I want. Yeah. So,
yeah, my dad, there was a donut

492
00:26:01,260 --> 00:26:05,640
shop in town. I was 14 years
old, and the donut shop owner

493
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,060
played jazz on the weekends.
Coolest cat named Tony. Of

494
00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:13,020
course it was. And he had this
cool jazz kit. And I think he

495
00:26:13,020 --> 00:26:16,800
had another one in his house. My
dad brought it home one day and

496
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,280
said, I don't know how you're
gonna play this. What a great

497
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:24,440
dad. He was a great he's a great
dad, yeah. And he absolutely,

498
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,440
yeah. He brought him home. And
my mom was like, You're not

499
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,480
playing. You know, actually, it
was full circle a week ago. The

500
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,280
guy goes, the guy who, who sold
me those drums. Goes, Do you

501
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,300
remember what I told you way
back when I said, No, but you

502
00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:43,180
remind me? And he goes,
remember, I said, and he gave

503
00:26:43,180 --> 00:26:48,340
me, like, a playlisted album,
and it had like all rock,

504
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:52,120
classic rock on it. And he said,
Hey, we don't have many people

505
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:55,780
in this town that play music,
but you can play with all these

506
00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:59,680
bands if you put headphones on.
And I just remember sitting down

507
00:26:59,740 --> 00:27:03,720
in in the basement. Very much so
around like this jazz kit that's

508
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,200
not meant for rock and wailing
on the drums going, this is

509
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,440
about as close as I'm gonna get
to being in a band, right? So

510
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,400
that was, unfortunately I never
learned I'm going backwards now

511
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,460
and learning, trying to learn
the actual chops and the things

512
00:27:17,460 --> 00:27:20,900
that I need to learn, hands and
things that him and I have

513
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:24,200
spoken about, but back then, it
was just, yeah, yeah. It was

514
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,080
played with you play because no
one's there. You don't. You have

515
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,940
4000 people in your town. You're

516
00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:31,640
doing what you can. You're it's
a passion. You're putting the

517
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,940
headphones on, playing to the
CD. That's exactly what I did,

518
00:27:34,940 --> 00:27:36,920
yeah, but I didn't have
headphones. I had a giant

519
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,660
speaker next to me, big monitor,
not it was like it was my father

520
00:27:40,660 --> 00:27:43,240
built it for my brothers. My
brother's a piano player, yeah.

521
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:46,660
And when my brother graduated
onto other monitoring, he my

522
00:27:46,780 --> 00:27:49,720
brother literally had like, an
entire PA system in his bedroom,

523
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,380
so he'd play through that. So
this thing that my father built

524
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,020
was relegated to that
downstairs. I'm like, Well, hey,

525
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:58,780
I know how to connect a cassette
player, yeah. And I'd play off

526
00:27:58,780 --> 00:28:01,740
of cassettes and lot of journey,
I was gonna ask, what did you

527
00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:04,680
play to journey? Anything that
was on the local radio station

528
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,740
that, oddly enough, later on, I
began, I started working for,

529
00:28:07,860 --> 00:28:11,460
oh, wow. So anything that came
on, so for me, like the testing

530
00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:15,360
was, can you play the songs that
just came one after another? It

531
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:18,360
was like, roulette, yeah. And I
just learned how to play them by

532
00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:22,220
and I remember hearing them same
thing with you. I saw the drums

533
00:28:22,220 --> 00:28:25,220
and I knew I was naturally
gravitated towards this my mom.

534
00:28:25,220 --> 00:28:27,560
I told my mom, what would you
know? Because my brother played

535
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,560
piano, what do you want to play?
You want to play an answer? Of

536
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,660
course, I do. What do you want
to play? The drums? Oh, the too

537
00:28:34,460 --> 00:28:38,300
noisy. How about the saxophone?
I've always loved the saxophone,

538
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,740
and you know. And so I was
probably, you know, fourth

539
00:28:44,740 --> 00:28:48,640
grade, and she got me a
saxophone, and I squeaked, you

540
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,540
know, they don't freaking make
noise at all, you know. And

541
00:28:52,780 --> 00:28:55,900
yeah, about three, six months
later, I was done, yeah,

542
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:00,960
instrument your hearts into
getting, you know, point A to

543
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,640
point B. But still, the drums
are still, you know, the you

544
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,820
could play in so many different
musical outlets as a drummer,

545
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,260
folk music, funk music, pop
music, country, country rock,

546
00:29:13,260 --> 00:29:17,220
Southern rock, fusion. You could
play on Broadway. You can play

547
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,840
tribute bands. You could play on
cruise ships. It's like you

548
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,300
could play a mean backbeat,
maybe read a little bit of

549
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:27,440
music, play some styles
versatile. You the drum set is

550
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:32,120
the most versatile thing as for
developing a career, way more

551
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,980
than a saxophone. You know what
I mean.

552
00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:38,180
My first drum kit was at 11
years old. Similar kind of

553
00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:42,520
story, probably an old leftover
Ludwig kit had the psychedelic

554
00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:45,220
covering on it and stuff like it
was a green if you turn the

555
00:29:45,220 --> 00:29:48,040
drum, the color moved and whoa,
if you're tripping on acid,

556
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,020
yeah, and it was I played jump
for the first time, first. How

557
00:29:53,740 --> 00:29:57,700
did you know I want to know this
rich? How did you know you

558
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:01,800
wanted to take it to the utmost
and go. I want to learn the all

559
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,440
the education of this, because
there's one thing to go we're

560
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,720
drawn to an instrument right to
devote not just the time and

561
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,020
practice, let's put that aside,
but the actual education of like

562
00:30:13,020 --> 00:30:16,860
going, I'm going to master this
instrument. What was that like?

563
00:30:16,860 --> 00:30:17,820
When was that for you?

564
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:21,840
Well, you know, I just had a
natural affinity towards it. So

565
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,380
my dad got me drum lesson. Drum
lessons when I was six years

566
00:30:24,380 --> 00:30:26,960
old, and I had this blue sparkle
snare drum, and I was reading

567
00:30:27,020 --> 00:30:29,540
marches and learning rudiments
and how to play rock beats on

568
00:30:29,540 --> 00:30:32,540
the drums and stuff. But I was
that is so young. So then I had

569
00:30:32,540 --> 00:30:35,180
a departure. Gave it up for a
little bit, got into Star Wars,

570
00:30:35,180 --> 00:30:39,080
figures, banana bikes,
skateboards, Star Wars, all the

571
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,820
stuff. And then, when I moved to
El Paso Texas and rejoined the

572
00:30:42,820 --> 00:30:46,060
fifth grade band, I already knew
how to play a buttery smooth

573
00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:48,220
press role and pause. You know,

574
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,260
he left out speed skating and

575
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:54,100
Dungeons and Dragons. Dungeons
and Dragons, Dungeon Master,

576
00:30:54,340 --> 00:30:57,640
what Lord of the Rings. What a
great game. What a great use of

577
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,900
your brain, because you have to
this was strategy. You, not only

578
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:03,840
that, you it's an it's about
imagination, which really, it

579
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,400
was just like when you play
jazz, or even if you play,

580
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,480
you're a country rock session
musician. You have to have

581
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,780
imagination. You have to have
creativity. You're, you're ad

582
00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:18,960
libbing, you know, you're
improvising, you know. So this

583
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,680
stuff all kind of cross
correlates, but the band that

584
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560
really, you know, MTV, came
along, so I wanted to be in the

585
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,260
police. And you're such a
beautiful gift giver. If you

586
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:31,340
guys are not watching this, Rob
came bearing gifts today. He

587
00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:36,500
brought me a some police vinyl
and some and a police double DVD

588
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,180
live concert.

589
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:41,020
Very thoughtful. You'll never be
able to watch it, because there

590
00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:42,040
are no DVDs. Any you

591
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,280
know what? I do have a DVD
player hooked up to my upstairs

592
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,080
man cave. So I have a room. It's
called My dog house room. So

593
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,420
when I'm in the doghouse, I go
up there, and I have my Italian

594
00:31:52,420 --> 00:31:55,120
leather couches, and I got my
nice flat screen television with

595
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,780
a DVD player, and I could sit up
there, have some whiskey, watch

596
00:31:58,780 --> 00:32:02,040
horror films, listen to DVDs.
It's amazing. So you're always

597
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,320
trying to get back to the dog
house. That's for going. That's

598
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,900
where, sometimes I do things on
purpose just to go to the dog

599
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:09,600
wanna, yeah, yeah, amazing. But
no, you've always been so

600
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,760
thoughtful. And so you're,
you're always so into fashion

601
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,700
and stuff. I was like, hey man,
I need to up my game on my, you

602
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:16,980
know, necklaces and stuff.
You're like, oh yeah, next day

603
00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:19,200
you show up and you'd have a
necklace for me. Or like, Hey

604
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,460
man, you know, I lost my last
wallet chain. Next thing I know,

605
00:32:22,580 --> 00:32:24,980
wallet change. You're just a
very thoughtful person.

606
00:32:24,980 --> 00:32:28,040
Oh, bro. Well, I appreciate that
so, so much. Very nice. It's

607
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,700
easy when somebody's got, like,
a really good taste for things,

608
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,520
because you're like, they'll
like this. I know they will. So

609
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,080
what you're saying is, I'm a
challenge.

610
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,980
We were just talking about your
Carhartt collection before this.

611
00:32:39,980 --> 00:32:42,880
I mean, Jim's wearing the most
comfortable shoes in the room,

612
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,360
correct? ON CLOUD dad shoes,
amazing. That's right, but

613
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,060
you're the ultimate dad bro,
because they're not on camera,

614
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,180
huh? They're not on camera. It's
true. It's true. It's like doing

615
00:32:52,180 --> 00:32:56,440
a Zoom meeting with only no
pants, no pants

616
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,020
on so getting into the voiceover
world,

617
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,460
yeah, yeah.

618
00:33:00,940 --> 00:33:04,560
What was, what was the turning
point for that? Because, oh,

619
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,680
something tells me that you were
a little bit of a class clown,

620
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,740
and you were doing, gotta be
impersonations and such. And

621
00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:13,200
then people were like, somebody
encouraged you that was like,

622
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,060
you know, that you can make a
living at this.

623
00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:19,140
Enough detention. You know, my
English Lit teacher was at our

624
00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:22,280
show in my hometown a week ago,
and it was so cool to go give

625
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,440
her a big hug and a kiss,
because I was like, That's cool,

626
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,960
you know, just going to her and
saying, Hey, I know is in

627
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,840
detention all the time, but
thank you for kind of making a

628
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,500
problem, you know, a solution.
She used to have me and this

629
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:35,840
other kid that cut up all the
time. We're still buds to this

630
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,840
day, I actually read to the
class. So you get To Kill a

631
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,720
Mockingbird, and she's like,
you're going to take character,

632
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,540
and you're going to take
character, whatever, and you're

633
00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:46,360
going to redo the class. Will it
hush the class? And next thing

634
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,660
you know, everybody aced their
English Lit Tet two months

635
00:33:49,660 --> 00:33:52,120
later. Yeah. And so it was
really cool to watch that

636
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,460
happen. But yeah, really
voiceover for me, didn't really

637
00:33:54,460 --> 00:33:57,400
happen until college. Believe it
or not, there was a band that

638
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,060
was going to tour the United
States for the first time. Had a

639
00:34:00,060 --> 00:34:04,200
buddy who worked for that band,
and said, hey, just need a North

640
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,100
American voice, low American
voice. I'll buy you a burrito.

641
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,520
And I was like, college, you
have no money. Cool. You know,

642
00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:15,480
great, awesome. And that was
kind of what got me started. I

643
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,440
ended up in the room on a

644
00:34:16,980 --> 00:34:18,960
mic, and that was for Taco Bell.

645
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,140
A Taco Bell burrito. It was a
national ad.

646
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,200
So you're on the mic, and you're
realizing that you have an

647
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,340
affinity for this thing,

648
00:34:29,179 --> 00:34:32,899
yeah, and, and not unsimilar to
Jim, where it's like you

649
00:34:32,899 --> 00:34:37,939
started, I remember, actually
the I did, like, a radio

650
00:34:37,939 --> 00:34:41,919
internship in in high school,
and I, I still didn't think I

651
00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:44,619
really had any kind of whatever
I was doing radio programming,

652
00:34:44,619 --> 00:34:48,339
like, hey, the kid who sit sits
in there and it does all the

653
00:34:48,339 --> 00:34:50,919
dirty work kind of a thing. And
I think that's where I probably

654
00:34:50,919 --> 00:34:53,739
was, like, having fun on a mic.
But I had no idea that I had

655
00:34:53,739 --> 00:34:56,439
anything to offer. Yeah, and
then it was in college, yeah,

656
00:34:56,439 --> 00:34:59,919
they basically had me do this
thing and and exactly as real.

657
00:34:59,999 --> 00:35:02,579
Said there was three guys in the
room. It's the beginning of Mrs.

658
00:35:02,579 --> 00:35:04,499
Doubtfire, where they're all
with cigarettes, and they're all

659
00:35:04,979 --> 00:35:07,079
All right, you know, be on the
mic kind of a thing. So you're

660
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:10,499
just trying to get something out
of them. You can hear pin drop.

661
00:35:10,979 --> 00:35:14,039
And so I'm telling them like,
Okay, I've never done this

662
00:35:14,039 --> 00:35:16,559
before, but I'll just go ahead
and do it. So I do a bunch of

663
00:35:16,559 --> 00:35:19,679
accents and dialog and just be
stupid, and they're entertained.

664
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:22,879
And the one guy goes, Man, I've
been in TV for 17 years. If you

665
00:35:22,879 --> 00:35:25,519
wanted to do this, you really
could get a reel and do this.

666
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:28,219
And I was like, I'm in
Australia. I have an American

667
00:35:28,219 --> 00:35:30,499
accent. Like, I'm not gonna get
any work here, right? So it

668
00:35:30,499 --> 00:35:35,479
wasn't until I moved back and it
was my first thing was a Berea

669
00:35:35,479 --> 00:35:38,179
pasta sauce, AD,

670
00:35:38,180 --> 00:35:42,040
not Barilla, yes, Berea. And it
was for

671
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:45,220
like an Italian over the top
Lady and the Tramp kind of

672
00:35:45,220 --> 00:35:47,680
voice. I can't even do it to
this day. I can't remember what

673
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,320
I did, but that was my first
thing, was for master chef in

674
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:50,860
Australia.

675
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,580
So why you were able to do like
an Italian accent once upon a

676
00:35:54,580 --> 00:35:56,020
time, right? Not anymore.

677
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,960
Well, no, it's more just like, I
don't remember exactly what I

678
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,280
did for that, because it was so
long ago, right? But then again,

679
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:06,240
like I, I thought I actually had
a really crud Australian accent

680
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:08,940
when I lived there, but when I
got back, it just became, like

681
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,440
Immaculate Conception.

682
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,440
It's a tough accent. It's a very
it has to, you have, you have to

683
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,600
have a ring come out totally,

684
00:36:15,660 --> 00:36:17,040
right? Yeah. So if

685
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,900
you had to do it on screen
acting job with a Australian

686
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:25,100
accent, it probably wouldn't be,
because I am these Australians

687
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,780
are fierce actors. They're
killing it. Yeah, most actors

688
00:36:29,780 --> 00:36:33,320
work like some really top notch
actors in the United States are

689
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:39,260
British or Australian? Yeah? No,
they would never, I know. It

690
00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:40,640
blows me away. The

691
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:44,200
guys that we had on the wolf
brothers. Wolf brothers.

692
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,920
Would you guys like a soda?
Guess when a soda?

693
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:52,780
I said, Give me an American
accent. And it's like, Okay,

694
00:36:52,780 --> 00:36:56,860
now, give me an American accent
from Manhattan. They did

695
00:36:57,100 --> 00:36:59,620
it. They pulled it off. Yeah,
you know who's losing some of

696
00:36:59,620 --> 00:37:02,580
the Australian accent, I'm
realizing is, over time. Keith

697
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,720
Urban, you feel like he's been
here so long, losing it, man,

698
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,940
you know. And it's funny,
because he's married to an

699
00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:11,580
Australian, right? Yeah, you'd
think it'd be around, you know?

700
00:37:11,820 --> 00:37:14,760
Oh, well. So what I mean, what
does your Australian sound like?

701
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,620
Can you just pull it out of
about, out of a hat,

702
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,520
you know? Give us some copy.
Here we go.

703
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,000
A lot of Australians, they'll
say, This is for my Australian

704
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,400
friends out there. I lived in
Sydney for about four and a half

705
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,640
years for school. And when an
Australia, when Australian is is

706
00:37:29,660 --> 00:37:34,040
frustrated with you, they'll
always go, Yeah, look, you know,

707
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,280
yeah. Look, mate, every
Australian will do that for

708
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,560
whatever reason. That's like,
their thing. Yeah.

709
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,180
Look, yeah, you have like, a
Hugo, Hugo, Hugh

710
00:37:43,540 --> 00:37:46,540
Jackman. Hugh Jackman, yeah,
there you go. Well, I mean, he's

711
00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:49,060
a song and dance, man, that's
right. Well,

712
00:37:49,060 --> 00:37:52,720
it's amazing to me because
accents I could certainly do in

713
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,440
New York, which is where I grew
up, I could do so I could do a

714
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:01,260
good like, Clinton esque, raspy
Southern Living here, I'm sure,

715
00:38:01,380 --> 00:38:03,960
well, yeah, well, even, but
around here, you don't, you

716
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,360
don't really hear too many
people. A lot of people

717
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,920
pronounce their uh, trailing,
G's very hard. So trailing, you

718
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,740
know, you hear that a lot around
here, but I can really get the

719
00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:17,280
rest going and kind of talk like
this. And if I really get down

720
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,220
to it and I start pointing with
my phone, yeah, the mechanic,

721
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,160
yeah. All right, all right,

722
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,760
yeah. You know, there's a, you
know, the thick accent is the

723
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,640
east Tennessee, yeah, big time
can be very thick. And the

724
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,580
Carolinas, big Earth
hillbillies, Texas,

725
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:36,440
Texas has definitely

726
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,880
got a sump, yeah, yeah, for
sure.

727
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,020
Y'all, I'm learning that more
and more, especially that.

728
00:38:41,020 --> 00:38:44,320
But you have a you have a like,
let's see. You've got a total

729
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,380
accents reel. Can we listen? I
can pull it up a little girl, if

730
00:38:47,380 --> 00:38:49,780
you want to listen, if you if
you want to listen, we got

731
00:38:49,780 --> 00:38:52,000
headphones right there. Do you
want to listen to? It rich,

732
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,040
totally. All right, let's see,
see if it comes through.

733
00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,720
We're not here on this planet to
close our eyes to the world. We

734
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:04,620
are here to go out and
experience its many wonders,

735
00:39:05,820 --> 00:39:08,940
because through our experiences,
we grow

736
00:39:10,380 --> 00:39:12,240
and change. Grow and change.

737
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,500
As Melbourne enters its second
Coronavirus lockdown, the city

738
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:17,940
streets are again empty.

739
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:23,180
We wear cowboy boots. Oh my
goodness, a little dance with

740
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:29,960
the best you need land. We've
got

741
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,640
Texas amazing. That's a little
Sam to

742
00:39:36,020 --> 00:39:37,880
capture the soul of a place in
Ebola.

743
00:39:40,460 --> 00:39:45,100
Which we're lucky. Is it down
here? He said there'd be food

744
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,800
and lots of it. Scottish,

745
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:54,940
yes. Let's drink and put all
that chaos behind us. New

746
00:39:54,940 --> 00:39:56,260
Zealand accent, yes, yeah. Text

747
00:39:56,260 --> 00:39:59,920
me on WhatsApp. I have all the
information from Team Mobile.

748
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,540
Golden coconuts that grow in the
palm tree. No, that's great. Oh,

749
00:40:09,540 --> 00:40:13,500
my God, the golden coconuts,
dude, that's, yeah, that's, I

750
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,740
tried to do a British accent
once I was requested to do a,

751
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:20,240
like, a television commercial
for a local pool company in

752
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:23,660
Vegas. And I said, We love your
British. I'm, like, where did

753
00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:26,300
you hear my British? Well, we
heard you. It was like, you

754
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:29,000
know, on the one of the it was,
I was more Scottish, but make it

755
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,360
British, okay? And literally, we
in our house, we had a British

756
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,840
guy living with us, renting a
room, one of our friends. And

757
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,480
I'm, you know, took about 45
minutes for me to go through the

758
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,960
copy. And I'm, I'm doing my best
impersonation of Robin Leach.

759
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:49,720
You know, Robin leach lifestyles
of the rich, and it's awful. It

760
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:53,380
is awful, and I knew it, but
apparently they liked it. Yeah,

761
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,260
so I finish up, and I open the
door, and he's standing right

762
00:40:56,260 --> 00:40:59,560
there as open, like, nose to
nose. He's like, What the hell

763
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,440
was that? Oh, my God, dude. I
know deflating. What? No, I

764
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,800
agreed with them, but did they
accept it and pay you? They paid

765
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:12,960
me. Amazing. So, but Rob, how do
you develop that and or maintain

766
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,320
it?

767
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,160
You guys are both lovers of
film, so you'll understand, as

768
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,480
far as just being able to on a
consistent basis, watch these

769
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,820
films, whether it be
international films or national

770
00:41:22,820 --> 00:41:24,920
films, that have all these
accents. You know, what helped

771
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,700
me is being in an international
school. So, you know, four and a

772
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:31,400
half years of living in
Australia, I didn't just hear an

773
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,940
Australian accent every six
months. There was everybody from

774
00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:38,060
everywhere. So you're in a room
and it's us three right here.

775
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:40,540
You're from Germany, you're from
France, I'm from America, or

776
00:41:40,540 --> 00:41:43,600
where you're playing soccer or a
pickup game for something, or

777
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,060
you're playing, especially
music, you're in a band with

778
00:41:46,060 --> 00:41:49,240
people, you would definitely
know this like you're in Texas,

779
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:51,820
but it doesn't mean that your
band's, you know, one's from

780
00:41:51,820 --> 00:41:55,780
here, one's from there, so in
the same way, you know, everyone

781
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:59,740
who I played in a band with was
from everywhere. So it was very

782
00:41:59,740 --> 00:42:04,200
helpful to not just have a bunch
of American friends, but to have

783
00:42:04,260 --> 00:42:08,040
people from all over, you know,
the world in your ear all the

784
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,400
time listening. You're just kind
of gleaning from that. Yeah. So

785
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,160
yeah. And then obviously, had a
lot of Australian friends that

786
00:42:14,820 --> 00:42:18,600
I'd learn a little bit of the
the regional where, like Perth,

787
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,680
has a different accent than
Sydney, and a different accent

788
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,160
than and I never really
understood. I mean, I'm from a

789
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,680
small, little rinky dink town,
you know, in western North

790
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,760
Carolina, so it was very weird
to move to a place where I'm not

791
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,780
only exposed to Australians, but
exposed to the world. I mean,

792
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,020
every like I said, six months
was a brand new intake of

793
00:42:39,020 --> 00:42:39,980
international people.

794
00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:44,080
What a great education. What was
that, that experience? It was,

795
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,000
it was college abroad.

796
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,440
Yep, college abroad. And,

797
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,600
you know, music focused in a lot
of ways, it was a leadership

798
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,360
development kind of a thing. So
I learned a lot of business

799
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,420
practices for, like, actually,
kind of starting your own

800
00:42:58,420 --> 00:43:02,340
business, but from a leadership
aspect, which is cool in a

801
00:43:02,340 --> 00:43:07,140
musical format, because you kind
of understand, then a little bit

802
00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:11,640
maybe, of how to like lead a
band, which I'm still learning

803
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,980
every other day. You know? How
do you there's one thing about

804
00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:16,920
putting a band together. How do
you read the band leader, direct

805
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,180
it, yeah, now, which is crazy
and you're just crushing it on

806
00:43:20,180 --> 00:43:21,080
all fronts. Rob,

807
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,060
trying, man, trying.

808
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:27,680
So as a band leader, do you have
like, a hurrah before you go

809
00:43:27,740 --> 00:43:29,840
out? You're like, Hey guys, make
sure on the second verse we

810
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,180
talked about that. Let's have a
great time. Do you know that

811
00:43:32,180 --> 00:43:32,960
kind of a thing? It's

812
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,360
like Italy, we got that text
thread. There's one that's

813
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,880
strictly business, and then
there's one that's strictly fine

814
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,680
business. Yeah, there's two
threads. There's two threads

815
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,860
strictly, strictly business and
strictly funny business. And the

816
00:43:44,860 --> 00:43:49,000
one we've established now is
like, if, if a text comes

817
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,940
through this one, you better
like it that you know that you

818
00:43:51,940 --> 00:43:54,640
know this is where we're going.
This is what we're doing. You

819
00:43:54,640 --> 00:44:00,040
told me, I'm gonna say, four
years ago now, which is crazy,

820
00:44:00,460 --> 00:44:05,340
but you had mentioned to me that
one of the biggest things a

821
00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:09,780
drummer can do is is to be the
person where the rest of the

822
00:44:09,780 --> 00:44:12,300
band goes. I don't have to
question where I'm at in a song,

823
00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:15,780
right? I don't have to question
where we're going, what we're

824
00:44:15,780 --> 00:44:19,680
doing. You're that rock solid
piece that goes, and I've really

825
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,320
taken that to heart rich, where
it's like, I want to try to be

826
00:44:24,380 --> 00:44:28,220
that, drive the band, to drive
the band, but to also kind of be

827
00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:32,360
this, you know, if they, if they
are looking at me nervous, it's

828
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:32,540
like,

829
00:44:32,540 --> 00:44:35,540
we're gonna be all right, yeah,
you know, telegraph the sections

830
00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:36,800
of the song totally,

831
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,740
and I'm still learning that.
But, man, it's a, it's a heck of

832
00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:40,900
a gig that way. Oh my

833
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:43,420
god. Well, I mean, geez, you
guys are just going to keep

834
00:44:43,420 --> 00:44:45,820
climbing and climbing and the
venues keep getting bigger and

835
00:44:45,820 --> 00:44:49,000
bigger. You know, I love my
instruments so much I'll play

836
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,960
anywhere. But, you know, after
you play an amphitheater or an

837
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,360
arena, it really is hard to go
back and and play small venues,

838
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,020
you know, because you're just
like, where's. All the people in

839
00:45:01,020 --> 00:45:04,920
the bras. You know, what do you
mean bras? Well, they throw the

840
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,160
brows on the stage. You know,
they still do that, I think so

841
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,480
occasionally. Yeah,

842
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,620
I'm sure Jack gets a bra. What
about to Jack bros

843
00:45:14,820 --> 00:45:15,540
man's ears,

844
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:21,120
bloomers? But no, I love my I
love my instrument. So, I mean,

845
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,660
I still, I still, I still play a
wedding, still play a bar

846
00:45:23,660 --> 00:45:26,420
mitzvah, but it's, isn't it fun
to play big venues in a wedding

847
00:45:26,420 --> 00:45:28,760
that might throw the bra you're
reaching a maximum number of

848
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,760
people at one time, and it's
like high energy, you know,

849
00:45:32,060 --> 00:45:34,760
there is no, I mean, that, you
know, truthfully, I am learning

850
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,640
that there's such an intimate
experience about those smaller

851
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,800
venues where you can actually
see all the faces, right? And

852
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,520
the lights aren't just there all
the time, but yeah, I mean,

853
00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:46,240
what? Especially that seat, the
best seat in the house. You hit

854
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:49,780
that kick drum in an arena?
Yeah, there's nothing like it.

855
00:45:49,780 --> 00:45:52,660
And we all know that in the
sense of, like, my gosh, like,

856
00:45:52,660 --> 00:45:55,480
it's thunder, you know, it's
like thunders in town. Yeah,

857
00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,840
your voice is foot right, which
is so crazy. And it helps when

858
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,260
you've introduced me to Porter
and Davies, when you feel it,

859
00:46:04,260 --> 00:46:06,840
did you get your one, get
yourself one working on it. But

860
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,120
it's on my rider every time we
go out. But

861
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:11,520
do you guys have you got the
contact number for the guy?

862
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,240
Yeah, it only gets so good. I
mean, I don't think they're

863
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:18,840
given any to anyone. You got to
pay a little, oh yeah, because

864
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:21,740
there's two guys in a garage in
Liverpool, and they're just like

865
00:46:21,740 --> 00:46:24,980
Russia. I mean, you know, it's a
family business. There's that

866
00:46:24,980 --> 00:46:28,520
they make the rectal evinrudes.
The rectal Evinrude Yes, so

867
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,820
I want to learn this from you
guys. But how, in the different

868
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,960
facets of life, how do you guys
balance what all that you do,

869
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:37,580
because drummer, drummer.

870
00:46:37,580 --> 00:46:38,360
Because we all

871
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,760
actor, voice actor, actor, voice
actor, yeah, how do you there's

872
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,460
many different myriad I'm
actually learning more right

873
00:46:45,460 --> 00:46:48,520
now, when I first walked in,
about more what Jim does, yeah,

874
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,940
and you're diversifying like
crazy. But how do you manage all

875
00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:55,720
I mean, I find it very difficult
to do that whilst touring, for

876
00:46:55,720 --> 00:46:57,880
sure, I don't know. I mean, I
know, in the thick of it, when

877
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,540
Rich was doing

878
00:46:58,660 --> 00:47:02,460
he even said, whilst, whilst,
whilst it's like,

879
00:47:02,460 --> 00:47:06,000
how do you think? You know, I
really do want to learn that,

880
00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:09,360
especially at this stage, and
not just career, but life where,

881
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,780
like, I took on, you know, I got
married recently, and all those

882
00:47:12,780 --> 00:47:14,520
kinds of things, and I'm
learning it never

883
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,340
gets you guys are probably going
to start soon, right?

884
00:47:17,820 --> 00:47:20,100
Yeah, it's all part of it,
really, yeah, well, Rob,

885
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:21,560
do you enjoy having hair?

886
00:47:22,940 --> 00:47:25,520
Indeed, exactly, typically,

887
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,120
you know, when you get, you
know, you diversify, as you so

888
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,080
eloquently state and you start,
you start pulling your hair out

889
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,880
because, you know, you get
spread

890
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,140
thin. There are days where Jim
is multitasking so much, 15

891
00:47:39,140 --> 00:47:42,700
podcasts, voice over, work,
running a company, Father,

892
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:46,660
just jumping from one project to
the next. Yeah, that's, I mean,

893
00:47:46,660 --> 00:47:50,500
total. But I mean, if I, if I
could, you know, how did you get

894
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:52,660
some of the I'm seeing, some of
the gigs you're getting, and I'm

895
00:47:52,660 --> 00:47:54,940
like, this is the stuff I should
have been doing a long time ago.

896
00:47:54,940 --> 00:47:58,480
I just never, either, you know,
fell into it or pursued it as

897
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,340
much as I should have. And, you
know, for me, at this stage of

898
00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:05,640
doing voiceover, let's say just
find somebody who can coach me.

899
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,760
Is a rare breed. You know, I
could do a lot of coaching for

900
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:13,800
other people, but Chuck Duran,
you know, he is, he did my last

901
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,560
demo, and he actually coached
me. He could actually, I'm like,

902
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:20,640
Okay, I gotcha. You know, being
humble enough after 25 some odd

903
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:25,460
years doing course, yeah, but I
my voice is and my approach is

904
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,140
the way it is. I'm just not sure
how appealable it is. You know

905
00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:33,320
what I mean? Or if there's a fit
out there, or even if, you know

906
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,200
if AI is going to be replacing
all of us at some point, oh, my

907
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,580
God, you know. And

908
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,960
you just got engaged, by the
way, yeah, buddy. She's the slow

909
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,080
burn taught me exciting things,
man, it's exciting. You know,

910
00:48:44,620 --> 00:48:47,860
we're all evolving, you know,
constantly. But you know, if you

911
00:48:47,860 --> 00:48:52,600
know, I I love to fancy myself
an actor. I mean, I did study, I

912
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,300
did get my side card. In under
five years, I have been in

913
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,620
legitimate productions. But
let's face it, it is the ice

914
00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:03,480
thing on my cake. You know, it's
the icing on my cake. I don't

915
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,480
have time to do 80 auditions a
year to try to get a sure

916
00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:10,740
pharmaceutical commercial or
something like that. So my plan

917
00:49:10,740 --> 00:49:13,860
on doing that, and I do want to
continue doing it, is trying to

918
00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:16,380
develop relationships with
people that thought, meet the

919
00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:20,660
producer, meet the director,
sure. So it is so difficult to

920
00:49:20,660 --> 00:49:24,380
try to get the audition, get the
call back, then you might have

921
00:49:24,380 --> 00:49:26,660
to do a chemistry and then when
there, oh, here's the actual

922
00:49:26,660 --> 00:49:31,040
shoot. Can't do the actual shoot
for it to all actually line up

923
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,940
and happen is nearly impossible
while being a touring drummer

924
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,020
and on and I'll say this for
rich, I've never realized how,

925
00:49:39,500 --> 00:49:42,760
especially being on tour. I
learned, right? I mean, like on

926
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,940
the concrete, they're going,
where's rich going today? Yeah,

927
00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:49,060
he's going and doing a clinic.
He's educating at a university.

928
00:49:49,060 --> 00:49:53,500
He's maximizing what he's got a
whole nother realm of he's doing

929
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:57,520
a speaking engagement for the
CEO of and his entire staff of

930
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:01,320
this thing. And I'm going, how
does. Manage all this, like,

931
00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:04,920
this is crazy, and run the band.
And, you know,

932
00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:07,680
how do you do it? How do you do
it when? Because if you guys are

933
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,500
out there, and you know, you're
in that part of your career

934
00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:13,560
where you're like, out a lot,
not coming home a lot, yes,

935
00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:17,820
they're making it happen. And
you got a voiceover job, you got

936
00:50:17,820 --> 00:50:18,600
a mobile studio,

937
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:25,220
so the best, it's a sure SM, 88
you can buy them on Amazon.

938
00:50:25,220 --> 00:50:27,800
They're like, 100 and some
dollars, I swear by them. And

939
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,200
they come with a free app. It's
called automotive or something

940
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:30,560
like that,

941
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:33,500
and finding the place to do it,
yeah?

942
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:36,800
Well, I mean, you know, it's if
you can be humble enough in

943
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,180
hotel rooms or be humble enough
in a trailer, the guys

944
00:50:40,180 --> 00:50:43,240
understand, I just go, Hey,
look, I'm taking those pillows,

945
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:45,760
or I'm taking that mattress and
I'm putting it up against the

946
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,780
corner of this thing. I need it
quiet for 20 minutes. That's all

947
00:50:49,780 --> 00:50:53,260
I need from you guys. And they
laugh, and I've moved around

948
00:50:53,260 --> 00:50:56,980
their stuff in busses and
trailers and whatever, and just

949
00:50:56,980 --> 00:51:00,900
made it work. And honestly, the
best thing in the world that has

950
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:03,780
been so helpful over the years
is where we're at, and I'm sure

951
00:51:03,780 --> 00:51:06,900
you guys have done this, but
where we're at, if we're in a

952
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:09,780
city where I can get to a
studio, I'll get in an Uber and

953
00:51:09,780 --> 00:51:13,440
I'll go to a studio, do a
session and make sure I'm back

954
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,220
in time, or wake up way earlier.
And it's amazing how many

955
00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:20,280
studios have been so hospitable

956
00:51:20,340 --> 00:51:23,420
to Hey, can I crank this out?
Man, I only need an hour. That's

957
00:51:23,420 --> 00:51:26,240
it. And they've been so sweet.
I'm on tour, I'm doing drums,

958
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:30,440
and they see this grind that
you're, you know, much like what

959
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,320
Rich is doing, where he's, like,
you just went and spent four and

960
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,380
a half hours and met everyone at
your clinic, yeah? And then you

961
00:51:36,380 --> 00:51:40,160
came back and played for 95
minutes, yeah, or longer,

962
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:45,100
whatever it is, or the amazing
thing that I would see was, and

963
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:48,100
I still don't know to this day,
how you do it. A lot of people

964
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:51,820
don't know. They do a VIP, yeah,
so you're doing a show before

965
00:51:51,820 --> 00:51:56,500
the show, before the show. So
it's kind of like a whole day

966
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,500
thing and working out. So I've
always just, I'm trying to learn

967
00:51:59,500 --> 00:52:03,060
that balance into my own life,
and so it's just trying to do. I

968
00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:03,480
think it's

969
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,840
great, dude. You're keeping it
all happening, dude, I mean, and

970
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,580
that is amazing.

971
00:52:08,580 --> 00:52:12,900
So you had mentioned this
before, doing a voice off. Oh,

972
00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:18,900
wow. And in all of your inboxes,
I sent a small copy, like a tag,

973
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:19,740
some copy.

974
00:52:19,980 --> 00:52:22,640
Oh, my God, who wants to try it
first? I'll tell you, my phone's

975
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,760
not on because I'm trying to be
a good guest. No, no, no, turn

976
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:26,660
it on. That's fine. Let

977
00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:30,980
me know when you get it.
Everyone's looking

978
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,060
what are we trying to deliver
here? As far as like, however

979
00:52:35,060 --> 00:52:37,820
you want to interpret, let me
see here. Get some copy coming.

980
00:52:37,820 --> 00:52:40,960
You know, it's a very
personalized, probably a regular

981
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:41,980
guy approach. We

982
00:52:41,980 --> 00:52:44,620
should do this every week. Just
send each other copy,

983
00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:48,400
you know, the audio message. You
know,

984
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,880
that's fine, little group text.
There's actually there was,

985
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,840
remember when, oh gosh, what was
it called clubhouse? Remember

986
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,980
when clubhouse was a thing and
there was voice over workout

987
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:04,380
groups that, like, three major
voiceover artists would get

988
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:07,260
together, and everybody would
chime in, and they'd actually

989
00:53:07,260 --> 00:53:10,440
read copy and be critiqued and
nice stuff. It was really cool

990
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:13,920
meetup groups. Yeah, so rich.
Want to go,

991
00:53:13,980 --> 00:53:16,140
I mean, without even really
thinking about it, I'm just

992
00:53:16,140 --> 00:53:19,680
going to go off the cuff. Okay,
I'm just a regular guy who wants

993
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,840
the same thing everyone else
does, food, family, shelter,

994
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:29,480
friends and plenty of ice cold
Budweiser, just not necessarily

995
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:30,200
in that order.

996
00:53:31,820 --> 00:53:34,520
I bet at all was Hey neighbor

997
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:39,620
motioning to me, yes, sir, here
we go. I just got it, by

998
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,300
the way. I yeah, I O, U, A, E, I
O, U, I would probably need to I

999
00:53:48,580 --> 00:53:50,320
Aquaman, red leather, yellow
leather. I'm

1000
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,840
just a regular guy who just
wants the same thing everyone

1001
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,660
else wants food, family,
shelter, friends and plenty of

1002
00:54:00,660 --> 00:54:04,560
ice cold Budweiser, just not
necessarily in that order.

1003
00:54:06,060 --> 00:54:07,680
Nice is that too? Announcing,

1004
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:13,920
no, not No. Actually, it was
very genuine. Thank you. I'm

1005
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,980
just a regular guy and wants the
same thing. Everyone else wants

1006
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:23,720
food, family, shelter, friends
and plenty of ice cold

1007
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:24,260
Budweiser.

1008
00:54:25,580 --> 00:54:27,620
It's not necessarily in that
order,

1009
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,960
and that's why he gets that

1010
00:54:30,620 --> 00:54:33,140
has a lot of inflection and
naturalism,

1011
00:54:34,580 --> 00:54:35,720
just not

1012
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:39,020
necessarily. I sent you another
one. Oh, here's a I'll send it

1013
00:54:39,020 --> 00:54:40,420
to you. I don't think I said to
the year we

1014
00:54:40,420 --> 00:54:43,600
should make this a segment in
Redmond show, and make every

1015
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,860
guest do it voice offs. Could
you imagine that's a thing? I

1016
00:54:47,860 --> 00:54:50,500
mean, it's only right. You guys
are both voice actors. So

1017
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,560
well, if somebody's not a voice
actor, it's, you know, that's

1018
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,320
even better. Can you imagine the
entertainment value? Totally

1019
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,520
incredible.

1020
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,500
It's a little bit longer one.
Okay, I. See it refreshing.

1021
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:05,700
Hello, ladies, look at your man.
Now, back to me. Now, back at

1022
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:10,740
your man. Now, back to me.
Sadly, he isn't me, but if he

1023
00:55:10,740 --> 00:55:14,340
stopped using lady scented body
wash and switched to Old Spice,

1024
00:55:15,060 --> 00:55:19,860
he could smell like he's me.
Look down, back up. Where are

1025
00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:23,360
you? You're in a boat with the
man. Your man could smell like

1026
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,920
what's in your hand. Packet me,
I have it. It's an oyster with

1027
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,880
two tickets to that thing you
love. Look again. The tickets

1028
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:35,900
are now diamonds. Anything is
possible when your man smells

1029
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:39,920
like old spice and not a lady.
I'm on a horse.

1030
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,420
What honestly,

1031
00:55:44,860 --> 00:55:47,320
Hello, ladies, did you book
that? No,

1032
00:55:47,620 --> 00:55:50,440
I mean now, like, No, I wish I
did. They missed out.

1033
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,820
I was like, He's done this? No,
this is his gig.

1034
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,540
First time I performed it. Thank
you, though, give me a break.

1035
00:55:59,140 --> 00:56:00,840
Who's next? My God,

1036
00:56:02,220 --> 00:56:04,380
it's a character, though. I
mean, that's probably what

1037
00:56:04,380 --> 00:56:07,560
helped me read it all the way
through. Hey, it's almost like

1038
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,420
my I'm channeling my brother in
law. Hey, ladies, look at your

1039
00:56:12,420 --> 00:56:13,980
man. Now, back to me. Now, back
at

1040
00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:17,400
your man. It's confidence man,
right? It's

1041
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,140
almost like a superhero, old
school announcer. I think

1042
00:56:21,140 --> 00:56:23,900
I remember this one. It's the
the guy on the horse. Yeah, on

1043
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:27,260
the white horse. This was a good
commercial. Oh, yeah. Very eye

1044
00:56:27,260 --> 00:56:28,880
catching. Yeah. He was like,
shirtless.

1045
00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:33,800
I'm on a horse. So good. Who's
next? Geez,

1046
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,700
Rich. So do you have to create a
character, whatever? Just

1047
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:41,480
go for, go for interpretation.
What's your interpretation of

1048
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:41,920
it?

1049
00:56:41,980 --> 00:56:45,760
Do it. Come on, jeez. Man, I'm
all go.

1050
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,380
We'll go into impressions next.

1051
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,640
Man, who's the character? Yeah,
who is character? Very

1052
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:58,600
confident. It's very, it's the
copy is confusing. Man,

1053
00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:02,040
it is. It's very, you did it
very well to like, I felt like I

1054
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,800
was watching the commercial in
my head all over again, because

1055
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:08,160
I remember him. It was like,
super cuts, right, right?

1056
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:08,820
Everything was,

1057
00:57:08,940 --> 00:57:11,880
yeah, yeah. I might have been
just impersonating the guy who

1058
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:12,540
did it, but I'm

1059
00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:15,240
gonna stuff this one up. I feel
like, because it is, it's, you

1060
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:21,200
got a lot going on. It's really
good, though. Also, I have just

1061
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,820
realized that I am missing out
on this QR code at the end of

1062
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,380
how smart. Man,

1063
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,980
that's attached to every email
just immediately attaches. Jim,

1064
00:57:30,980 --> 00:57:35,300
I want to get something, but
wait a minute. But if you have

1065
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:40,040
the QR code and you're already
on your phone, it defeats the

1066
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,240
purpose, because there's nothing
to snap the QR code, but it's if

1067
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:43,540
you're on

1068
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,180
you have all the links on there.
You can click the links in the

1069
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:46,960
JM, VO demo.

1070
00:57:47,020 --> 00:57:50,440
You know, we got to do, I just
realized so I have a buddy who

1071
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:56,200
we made a deal a decade ago,
whoever, kind of whatever made,

1072
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,840
made some traction in our
industry. First, we take him out

1073
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:03,360
to dinner, whatever he was an
animator, of course, he made it

1074
00:58:03,420 --> 00:58:06,660
right? Pretty crazy. So he got
hired with Pixar. He now works

1075
00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:09,900
for Warner Brothers, doing
stuff, but he will, it's the

1076
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:12,600
most fun thing ever, and I
promise we will do this. He'll

1077
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,580
send characters that he's made,
that he practices with. Well,

1078
00:58:17,580 --> 00:58:19,800
he'll go to coffee shops, or
he'll be in a studio working on

1079
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,280
characters, right? Just that
kind of come out of his head.

1080
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:24,980
Yeah. So I've always said the
greatest thing you could do

1081
00:58:24,980 --> 00:58:28,640
right as a voice actor is like,
give him an animated figure and

1082
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,240
go, what's, what's the voice of
this character? So what we

1083
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,780
should do, for sure is get three
characters for him to do and

1084
00:58:35,780 --> 00:58:40,720
send me and Jim rich. That would
be fun,

1085
00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:45,580
isn't that's a major goal in
your life, is to do cartoon.

1086
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:48,580
Yeah. I mean, you know, when you
do a lot of characters and

1087
00:58:48,580 --> 00:58:52,120
accents, I remember the best
thing I learned from a piano

1088
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:54,700
teacher, believe it or not, or
who, I guess you could call her

1089
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:58,660
like a dual teacher, because she
would do vocal and piano, which

1090
00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:01,680
is pretty typical, right in
town, right? I don't know if

1091
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,320
they've ever told you this, but
this blew my mind. And she was

1092
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,600
just like, hey, what's your
range in voiceover? And I was

1093
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:08,820
like, Well, what do you mean by
that? And she's like, well,

1094
00:59:08,820 --> 00:59:11,280
what's your lowest note on a
piano, what's your highest

1095
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:16,800
probably 185 Yeah. And she goes,
What's your lowest note on a

1096
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,160
piano, what's your highest note
you can hit and you may acid.

1097
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,460
I'm not a singer. She goes, I
don't care if you're a singer.

1098
00:59:22,460 --> 00:59:24,620
What's the lowest note you can
hit? What's the highest note you

1099
00:59:24,620 --> 00:59:27,980
can sit? So she did that, and
then she went, well, there's

1100
00:59:27,980 --> 00:59:31,040
your character range, yeah,
there's your highest note. You

1101
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,260
can take a character with all
your different palettes of

1102
00:59:33,260 --> 00:59:36,680
accents or dialects or aging,
and there's your lowest note,

1103
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:41,440
but a character you have to
embody, right, right? Like even

1104
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:45,820
like Cletus T Judd said this. He
says, I can't sing, but I can

1105
00:59:45,820 --> 00:59:49,300
sing in the key of funny. And
he's basically talking about a

1106
00:59:49,300 --> 00:59:52,900
character, yeah? And I get what
he's saying, because my, you

1107
00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:56,320
know, my most impersonated
character is Christopher Walken,

1108
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,620
always has been, yeah, but it's
always been somebody else doing

1109
00:59:59,620 --> 01:00:03,540
it. That I absorb. You know,
sure, Morgan Freeman might be my

1110
01:00:03,540 --> 01:00:05,940
latest one I've been kind of,
sort of working on, but it's

1111
01:00:05,940 --> 01:00:08,160
Frank Caliendo. Is Morgan
Freeman. He's good, he's

1112
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,940
amazing. Oh my God, because he's
all, all, all. Morgan Freeman is

1113
01:00:11,940 --> 01:00:15,240
an old man, and he's got to kind
of look, you know, lay out the

1114
01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:17,820
you want to drive a point home.
You got to make sure you do it

1115
01:00:17,820 --> 01:00:21,320
like it's genuine man, yeah, I
mean, and that's, how he is. You

1116
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:21,680
know,

1117
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,380
theater for the blind is what a
buddy of mine said had gone

1118
01:00:27,380 --> 01:00:30,200
that's true. Yeah, theater of
the mind, yeah.

1119
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,820
You know, thinking back on this,
I almost feel like with

1120
01:00:34,820 --> 01:00:39,080
VoiceOver, I'm a one trick pony,
so I don't know if it's going to

1121
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,560
be something that's going to be
on my resume for the rest of my

1122
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:42,580
life, or like even

1123
01:00:42,580 --> 01:00:46,960
you're capable of doing it, you
know, it's your your voiceover

1124
01:00:47,020 --> 01:00:50,380
is your character, of you in
terms of being an MC, a host and

1125
01:00:50,380 --> 01:00:53,380
announcer. So if you were to go
down that road and they want,

1126
01:00:53,440 --> 01:01:00,040
you know a who's the guy? Ryan
ranci, Chris Ryan Seacrest,

1127
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,800
yeah. Old Man brain. He doesn't
exactly do voiceover, but he

1128
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:09,120
does himself. You know, he can
play himself in somebody who

1129
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,820
imagined, who imagines a Ford
commercial. Oh, we want a Ryan

1130
01:01:11,820 --> 01:01:14,760
Seacrest. He's gonna sound like
Ryan Seacrest, yeah, you know

1131
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:15,540
what I mean. But

1132
01:01:15,540 --> 01:01:18,420
on camera, you have all the
diversity in the world. Because

1133
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:22,220
I feel like people probably have
said this to you so many times,

1134
01:01:22,220 --> 01:01:27,680
but your ethnicity could be so
many things, right? Like, it

1135
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:30,740
just works for camera so well,
because it's like, Oh, my God,

1136
01:01:30,740 --> 01:01:33,080
he could be Greek, he could be
Italian, he could be, you know,

1137
01:01:33,140 --> 01:01:35,420
Arabic, he could be Egyptian.
You know, it doesn't matter.

1138
01:01:35,420 --> 01:01:39,920
It's like, where one actor is,
like, you're the pale American,

1139
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:41,320
all American boy,

1140
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:42,700
technically ambiguous,

1141
01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:44,500
yeah, it's cool to have that, if

1142
01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:51,940
you had to be pigeonholed, yeah.
Have you ever played like the

1143
01:01:51,940 --> 01:01:54,340
seemingly nice Hispanic
gangster?

1144
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:59,020
I have not played the gangster
I've played as of recent I

1145
01:01:59,020 --> 01:02:03,600
played the maintenance guy,
Pablo, and I grew up my mustache

1146
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,900
and did the whole it was for a
pilot of a television show,

1147
01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:12,060
nice. And it was the Hispanic,
very like immigrant, kind of guy

1148
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,640
looking at some of the pictures
you have on your website, like

1149
01:02:15,300 --> 01:02:15,360
the

1150
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,540
cowboy Marlboro thing,
incredibly. Well, there's a lot

1151
01:02:18,540 --> 01:02:21,740
I'm typecasted. Man, that's my
apparently, that's the thing,

1152
01:02:21,740 --> 01:02:26,000
and I follow. And, you know,
well, it's just like, I don't

1153
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,520
know what it is, but I think
it's, yeah, probably what I get

1154
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,100
mostly booked for is kids,
cowboy gigs,

1155
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,920
really. And what's that actor?
What's that actor that a lot of

1156
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,420
people are comparing you

1157
01:02:35,540 --> 01:02:39,980
to? John Bernthal. John Burns is
like an older bro, yeah, the

1158
01:02:39,980 --> 01:02:42,940
Punisher. Respect the heck out
of hell. He's a great actor, Man

1159
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:43,720
Walking

1160
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:44,800
Dead and beyond.

1161
01:02:44,980 --> 01:02:48,220
It's like he's almost like a
step away from a Frank Grillo

1162
01:02:48,220 --> 01:02:48,940
too. Oh, I love

1163
01:02:48,940 --> 01:02:52,540
him. And I mean, you go watch
fury, you know him, and Shia

1164
01:02:52,540 --> 01:02:55,480
LaBeouf, and though that whole
crew, yeah, I don't know if

1165
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,380
there's better acting just stuck
in a tank like you're just

1166
01:02:59,380 --> 01:03:00,040
watching it go,

1167
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,660
yeah, Frank Brillo did great
with them. You know, lifelong

1168
01:03:03,660 --> 01:03:07,560
boxer fitness guy, later life
actor.

1169
01:03:08,460 --> 01:03:11,400
Was he a boxer fitness guy? And
that's, that's, oh, yes, whole

1170
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,640
life a boxer. He played, I
believe I saw him for the first

1171
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:18,420
time in a Marvel movie, in the
Captain America movies. He led

1172
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:19,200
rumlow, that's

1173
01:03:19,620 --> 01:03:23,240
right, yeah, you wouldn't. One
of my goals, truly is I get,

1174
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:27,860
well, I gotta get a tan first
again, but post summer, I wanna

1175
01:03:27,860 --> 01:03:31,880
do a project with rich, whether
he plays my older brother, where

1176
01:03:32,060 --> 01:03:35,780
we just it'd be cool to do some
sort of on camera thing, and

1177
01:03:35,780 --> 01:03:38,960
then the other like, kick the
bucket thing is, he may not

1178
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,160
remember this, but we made a PA,
I said, Rich, I am pushing you

1179
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,580
to do a comedy set. Yeah, at
some point he really wants me to

1180
01:03:45,580 --> 01:03:48,220
go to I'm telling you, we're
gonna either do a Zanies night

1181
01:03:48,220 --> 01:03:52,300
or we're going to Atlanta. So
Jim, if you want to hop in the

1182
01:03:52,300 --> 01:03:53,980
truck, sure we're doing it, man.
Because

1183
01:03:54,940 --> 01:03:57,880
guys, you know what you haven't
done yet, some stand up comedy.

1184
01:03:58,540 --> 01:04:01,500
He would crush. You know he
would crush? Yeah, yeah.

1185
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:02,520
I mean, you gotta have

1186
01:04:02,580 --> 01:04:05,640
goodbye. I do. I'm part of a
group every week, and it's like,

1187
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,820
I know I can be funny here and
get laughs and stuff like that,

1188
01:04:08,820 --> 01:04:12,420
because I'm in my element. Yeah,
it's long form. I can take my

1189
01:04:12,420 --> 01:04:15,900
time whenever I'm constrained
for time, especially every week

1190
01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:18,480
I'm in a business networking
group. We get 30 seconds to talk

1191
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,980
about a commercial of sorts, and
a lot of people try to be funny,

1192
01:04:21,980 --> 01:04:23,720
and whenever I try to eye bomb

1193
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,360
every Wait a minute. Wait a
minute. BNI, you only have 30

1194
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,900
seconds. Yeah, I thought that
was 60 at least. Oh, well, that

1195
01:04:29,900 --> 01:04:33,440
in our group. So it's 30 seconds
for your hard pitch, for your

1196
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:33,980
business,

1197
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:36,440
but it's, it's, you're doing it
every week. It's like having a

1198
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,840
billboard up Gotcha. So as long
as you really can, you know,

1199
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,020
make your messaging concise and
to the point that's

1200
01:04:41,020 --> 01:04:43,060
not easy though, 30 seconds.

1201
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,480
Actually, I prefer 15 because, I
mean, in the radio world, it

1202
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:51,160
forced somebody to think about,
how do you say what you do and

1203
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:55,540
say what problem you solve? Tip
of the spear, type of offering

1204
01:04:55,540 --> 01:04:58,780
that gets the most conversation
started in the smallest amount

1205
01:04:58,780 --> 01:05:01,800
of time. That. That's the most.
That's the best thing a business

1206
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,320
owner can do, in my opinion. You
know,

1207
01:05:04,620 --> 01:05:08,160
hey, he's going to beat us at
this game. But I think we should

1208
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,560
move on, because he's going to
win. You just don't want to do

1209
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,020
move right? Well, I just think
that the the average listener is

1210
01:05:13,020 --> 01:05:13,500
like, Yeah,

1211
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:16,200
we're gonna win. We're now,
we're they're probably like,

1212
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,520
we're over it. Okay, so

1213
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,100
let me ask you this to bring
this back to drumming. What was

1214
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:24,620
the what is your drumming like?
Who's your favorite couple of

1215
01:05:24,620 --> 01:05:27,560
drummers? Stewart Copeland,
boom, right

1216
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,980
there, right? I mean, of course,
super definable. And what's

1217
01:05:30,980 --> 01:05:34,340
weird is, I like some of the
cuts on, like, synchronicity

1218
01:05:34,340 --> 01:05:36,560
that I feel like a lot of people
would be like, Oh, you don't

1219
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,380
like that or not. You don't like
that one. But that's weird, go

1220
01:05:39,380 --> 01:05:42,400
and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah.
It's just like, some of the,

1221
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,300
some of the choices you made are
super cool, yeah, I of course,

1222
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:49,420
just love the musicality of John
Bonham, sure. I think it's super

1223
01:05:49,420 --> 01:05:52,060
cool that he would just throw
the sticks out and then play

1224
01:05:52,060 --> 01:05:55,480
with his hands. And, you know,
talk about a showman, you know,

1225
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,020
like, super cool stuff like
that. And, I mean, you know,

1226
01:05:59,020 --> 01:06:04,800
it's hard not to modern wise,
adore what you do and and I, you

1227
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,220
know, I think so much of it, too
is just, you know, of course,

1228
01:06:08,220 --> 01:06:12,240
it's, it's cool to see my wife
is an artist and a country

1229
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,720
artist, and watching what McHugh
does in the studio is really

1230
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,240
cool. And just watching his
choices and that kind of stuff,

1231
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,520
as far as you know, modern guys
that are doing it. I have a

1232
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:26,840
buddy right now, absolutely,
just a powerhouse drummer. His

1233
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:30,380
name's Garrett Tyler, and if
you're not familiar with him,

1234
01:06:30,380 --> 01:06:33,200
please just go check him out. He
plays with a couple different

1235
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,580
people, Mike zabilla for king
and country in the kind of more

1236
01:06:37,580 --> 01:06:40,420
Christian, Christian girl, but
he's, he's putting out records

1237
01:06:40,420 --> 01:06:44,020
with buddies, and he's just talk
about, I think he Modern

1238
01:06:44,020 --> 01:06:47,380
Drummer. Chose him recently and
for some sort of a cover story.

1239
01:06:47,380 --> 01:06:51,280
But talk about just somebody who
inspires you. I will say another

1240
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,160
Modern Drummer that I absolutely
love, not to just go to

1241
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:59,620
throwbacks, but modern guy is
Dan McMurray, another lesser

1242
01:06:59,620 --> 01:07:03,600
known guy, maybe in just the
full spectrum of things, but, my

1243
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:08,880
goodness, an absolute machine,
showman, everything else. So

1244
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,760
it's just, I try to, like, toss
it to people also, who are like,

1245
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,740
now doing stuff that's
inspiring.

1246
01:07:13,740 --> 01:07:15,600
Why don't we know Garrett
Tyler's name? It's like, I

1247
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,940
follow him on Instagram, or,
sure, but what does he is he

1248
01:07:17,940 --> 01:07:21,440
play with man again, you know,
Mike Seville has done some

1249
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,080
international tours for King
countries, probably one of the

1250
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,360
biggest things in Christian
music, if not. You know, their

1251
01:07:26,420 --> 01:07:29,720
their Christmas tours, like a go
and watch him Buble or

1252
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,720
something. I mean, it's
unbelievable, the production

1253
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:37,220
value of it, but Garrett's done
quite a lot of session stuff.

1254
01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:40,100
But, man, I don't know. I just
think, other than Modern Drummer

1255
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:44,080
and a lot of these other
entities that support drummers,

1256
01:07:44,380 --> 01:07:48,820
they're really keeping their eye
on him, just cool and humble as

1257
01:07:48,820 --> 01:07:51,760
can be, which is always, you
know, the greatest thing in the

1258
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,700
world to just watch somebody be
an absolute animal on stage, and

1259
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:56,080
then you're like, and you're
humble.

1260
01:07:56,320 --> 01:08:00,720
How about the Harry Myrie? He's
like, Oh, dude, doesn't he? But

1261
01:08:00,780 --> 01:08:03,360
the Jim Carrey thing is on. It's
scary,

1262
01:08:03,420 --> 01:08:08,100
yeah, he's we had him on via
Zoom, zoom during, during the

1263
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:10,500
pandemic, during the pandemic.
And it's funny, because all the

1264
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:15,480
girls we were in a different
building, who is that? And it

1265
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,440
was like, you know, over zoom,
yeah. It's like, son, on. It's

1266
01:08:23,060 --> 01:08:25,640
Yeah, amazing. Talk about
feeling old.

1267
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,140
Rob, what's your favorite color?
Green, forest green. What's your

1268
01:08:30,140 --> 01:08:34,220
favorite food? I would have to
say Mexican food. Yeah, yeah.

1269
01:08:34,340 --> 01:08:36,860
Like, just a nice, solid. How
weird, as an Italian to say that

1270
01:08:36,980 --> 01:08:39,320
goes. I mean, who doesn't like
tacos? But I love there's

1271
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,660
something about a burrito. I had
to go the other day, especially

1272
01:08:41,660 --> 01:08:43,960
a breakfast burrito. You got
two. Burrito. You got, you got

1273
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,300
eggs, you got Pico, you got
guac. Maybe they put a little

1274
01:08:46,300 --> 01:08:49,480
sausage in there, chorizo, and
it's all rolled up, and it's

1275
01:08:49,480 --> 01:08:53,080
portable, and it's so masculine
you grab this thing, and it's so

1276
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:57,220
satisfying every time, it's
amazing. Yeah, it doesn't

1277
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,040
give you a gut bomb burrito.
It's a little large. You know,

1278
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:06,120
sometimes it it'll act like two
meals. Not caliborina, not

1279
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,180
California burritos. Where I go,
Cali burrito is a good place,

1280
01:09:09,180 --> 01:09:11,940
but what's the place up? By
Simon Zoe's Baja burrito.

1281
01:09:11,939 --> 01:09:14,999
Baja burrito. Oh, my God, but I
do prefer California burrito

1282
01:09:14,999 --> 01:09:17,339
over here, by the public that's
my spot. I don't know how they

1283
01:09:17,339 --> 01:09:20,419
stay in business. Every time I
go in, it's a ghost town. Lot of

1284
01:09:20,419 --> 01:09:23,599
takeout. Lot of takeout. Yeah,
no one sits in there. It's like

1285
01:09:23,599 --> 01:09:27,019
a little strange, but great
burrito, yeah? Breakfast

1286
01:09:27,019 --> 01:09:29,719
burritos, or the California
burrito, which is basically

1287
01:09:29,779 --> 01:09:33,439
chicken guac pico sample. They
don't ruin it with a bunch of

1288
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,799
cheese and sour cream and all
that American stuff. You know,

1289
01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:37,459
you'd mind. You know,

1290
01:09:37,460 --> 01:09:39,920
have you found the best burrito
in town as of yet, you've been

1291
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:41,500
here a minute. Well, California

1292
01:09:41,500 --> 01:09:44,860
burritos, I'll tell you there,
yeah, okay. I mean, because all

1293
01:09:44,860 --> 01:09:49,120
the Mexican restaurants, with
maybe one or two exceptions, I

1294
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,580
mean, we probably got like 13 of
them, they're very chewy, right?

1295
01:09:51,580 --> 01:09:54,640
Well, I don't even, I'm not even
sure if they're that good, you

1296
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,220
know, I think they're. They're
just kind of okay, you know, we

1297
01:09:57,220 --> 01:10:00,360
have the new one that opened in
the old car joke, ahead. Day,

1298
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:04,080
and we went there for lunch, and
it's like, okay, you know, get

1299
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:07,020
it, it kind of, they kind of run
together. I hear you. Nothing

1300
01:10:07,020 --> 01:10:10,500
really, Cali burritos,
California Mexican. No,

1301
01:10:10,620 --> 01:10:12,960
yeah. What about your favorite
drink? It could be, you know,

1302
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:17,640
boozy or not. Oh my gosh, you're
a coffee guy, right? We share a

1303
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:17,940
lot of

1304
01:10:17,940 --> 01:10:21,200
coffee. I was gonna say I'm
absolutely addicted to coffee.

1305
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:25,640
So, for sure, coffee, yeah, no
doubt. And particular kind

1306
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,600
French press, man, I do like a
French press I am. I'm a very

1307
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:33,800
Italian kind of like espresso,
just right to the veins kind of

1308
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,100
a thing.

1309
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:36,740
You know, who he'd get along
with really well. Who's that?

1310
01:10:36,860 --> 01:10:37,700
Mercurio,

1311
01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:41,500
yeah, his name, yeah, it's like,
Zorro, yeah. Mike

1312
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:43,840
Mercurio, he'll be here
tomorrow. It's really, it's

1313
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,360
funny because, as we're kind of
talking, it's like, it's kind of

1314
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,060
too bad you don't live around
here, because he'd be a good

1315
01:10:49,060 --> 01:10:52,060
hang at the cigar shop. Oh,
yeah. Well, he'll make

1316
01:10:52,060 --> 01:10:55,240
the drive. Let me say this rich
before, since I get the honor of

1317
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,600
being on the show, there's so
many you know, you can walk into

1318
01:10:59,140 --> 01:11:04,020
any most bars in this town. And
I've learned with rich that you

1319
01:11:04,020 --> 01:11:07,320
walk in and there's probably a
good three or four people that

1320
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,960
are just going to come out of
nowhere and give Rich a hug,

1321
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,800
yeah, not out of just even the
pure music industry, but most of

1322
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:19,140
the time they're drummers. And I
will say it is the wildest

1323
01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:23,420
thing, and this is myself
included, over the years, to sit

1324
01:11:23,420 --> 01:11:28,280
back and literally go like where
you should and most certainly

1325
01:11:28,820 --> 01:11:33,260
could, how take all the work in
the world from from you

1326
01:11:33,260 --> 01:11:38,900
literally prod all of us to be
greater. And it's a weird thing

1327
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,220
to know that you might not on
this side of things. Might not

1328
01:11:42,220 --> 01:11:46,720
be where you want to be without
people like that in your life.

1329
01:11:46,780 --> 01:11:50,860
And you are one of those people,
and I can say, for just doing

1330
01:11:50,860 --> 01:11:54,760
this record, staying with the
artists, I have the loyalty in

1331
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:58,360
that regard, coming to you at
weird times in life, not knowing

1332
01:11:58,420 --> 01:12:01,980
exactly what to do, or you've
had those phone calls I've had,

1333
01:12:01,980 --> 01:12:05,100
or texts like rich, what? Not
even, what would you do? What

1334
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:08,940
would you just motion me to do?
Yeah, and you have been so not,

1335
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,880
you know, one sided on things
given me a greater perspective.

1336
01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:17,460
And I think a lot of drummers in
this town benefit their entire

1337
01:12:17,460 --> 01:12:21,620
futures and their families on
not just education, but you

1338
01:12:21,620 --> 01:12:24,740
going, I'm gonna put you on my
shoulders, man. So, oh, wow.

1339
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,700
Like, truthfully, I want to say
that this, this podcast, should

1340
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,720
kind of be a place for drummers
to kind of go, man, let me put

1341
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,900
the spotlight on you, man.
Because, Oh man, that's I

1342
01:12:35,900 --> 01:12:38,480
wouldn't be here without you.
So, oh, it's true, Rob, thanks

1343
01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:40,960
for being in my wedding. I
appreciate. I love you to

1344
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:45,040
death. I really appreciate it.
Was a serious honor. And have

1345
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,100
you been listening to the recent
episodes by chance? So the the

1346
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:49,480
Ben satterly

1347
01:12:49,780 --> 01:12:53,380
is a buddy of mine, and that was
so cool to see him on the show.

1348
01:12:53,380 --> 01:12:55,060
Like, I guess it was two or
three weeks

1349
01:12:55,060 --> 01:12:57,520
ago. He was a he was, yeah,
probably, and he's

1350
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,960
another guy that just gives
away. It's like he learns the

1351
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,000
thing, like, how many people do
you

1352
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,520
share, shares his value and just
gives it away.

1353
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:08,820
And very much, like, rich in
that way, where it's just like,

1354
01:13:08,940 --> 01:13:11,340
oh yeah, man, this program or
this app or this thing, you

1355
01:13:11,340 --> 01:13:11,460
know,

1356
01:13:11,460 --> 01:13:13,800
it's like, you got to give it
away if you want to keep it.

1357
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,480
That's, that's the thing, you
know. And that's, that's the

1358
01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:18,000
beautiful thing is, and
especially in this, you know,

1359
01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:20,780
season of my life, I don't want
to be like, Oh my God, I need

1360
01:13:20,780 --> 01:13:23,240
your you know, I need Geritol.
But it's just, you know, you get

1361
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,880
to a point where you've required
some wisdom, and it's like, what

1362
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,180
am I going to do? I want to give
it away, you know. And I'm not a

1363
01:13:29,180 --> 01:13:32,240
genius, but I just know that if
people have moved here, they

1364
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,720
want to do the thing. If they
show up with a smile and a firm

1365
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,800
handshake, they're doing the
best they can at all times and

1366
01:13:40,580 --> 01:13:43,780
trying to exceed expectations.
You could buy a house and have a

1367
01:13:43,780 --> 01:13:48,040
life. Man, you could be part of
this music community. Man, we

1368
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:49,480
have a great one. You know,

1369
01:13:49,780 --> 01:13:53,020
it's unreal. Go read Rich's
book, by the way. Oh, thanks,

1370
01:13:53,020 --> 01:13:55,420
buddy. I can, honest to God say
I've read it twice and

1371
01:13:55,420 --> 01:13:58,840
making it a country music Yeah,
thanks, buddy. Absolutely. It

1372
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,560
should actually be required
reading. It all college music

1373
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:04,740
programs. But anyway, you just,
I mean, you have to have

1374
01:14:04,740 --> 01:14:09,060
somebody working on your behalf
all day long on a phone going,

1375
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,360
you know, calling every library,
every college, every prison in

1376
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,660
the United States, going, do you
have a copy of this? You got to

1377
01:14:15,660 --> 01:14:20,300
do a book tour, right? You know.
And does that really, you know,

1378
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:26,060
help ROI or sales, I don't know.
It's books are hard. You have it

1379
01:14:26,060 --> 01:14:29,120
available, though, clinics, you
know, here's my book, yeah,

1380
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,400
yeah, it's awesome. We are going
to have a booth at the Music

1381
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,920
City drum show, and the co
author of my book Making a

1382
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,680
country music, Jennifer de la
Sanna, hey, another Italian.

1383
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,380
She's going to be there with Jim
McCarthy at the booth. We're

1384
01:14:39,380 --> 01:14:41,800
going to have a nice step and
repeat. We're gonna have a lot

1385
01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:44,500
of my products. I won't be there
on the Saturday, but you can say

1386
01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:46,600
hi to Jim and Jen, and then I'll
be there on the Sunday.

1387
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,120
I'll be fielding a lot of
questions, like, where's rich?

1388
01:14:50,020 --> 01:14:50,380
But it's

1389
01:14:50,380 --> 01:14:53,020
cool. You can talk drums, and
then you get their email

1390
01:14:53,020 --> 01:14:55,360
address. We got an email list
for you guys. It's gonna be fun.

1391
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:55,540
It

1392
01:14:55,540 --> 01:14:58,720
was funny, speaking of getting
recognized, you know when you he

1393
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,520
goes and you go with him play?
Yeah, 34 so my brother comes to

1394
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:07,920
town over this past weekend, and
we go to jbjs, and up there on

1395
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,320
the top level, you can actually
look down on the drummer and

1396
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,840
watch him and stuff like that.
So we're both just sitting here

1397
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,720
having a drink, and they wanted
to experience Nashville in that

1398
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:19,740
realm. So, you know, they
finished the song, and I start

1399
01:15:19,740 --> 01:15:22,340
clapping. The guy looks up at
me, and he does double take, and

1400
01:15:22,340 --> 01:15:24,200
he goes, You're Jim McCarthy,

1401
01:15:26,540 --> 01:15:28,220
yeah. Okay.

1402
01:15:28,220 --> 01:15:30,680
That means somebody has tuned
into our program. Somebody's

1403
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,380
actually watched the video. It's
really amazing, hey, so we know

1404
01:15:33,380 --> 01:15:35,660
about his favorite colors,
favorite drink, his favorite

1405
01:15:35,660 --> 01:15:38,780
food. Do you have some of those
deep questions, or do you want

1406
01:15:38,780 --> 01:15:39,380
to go in with the

1407
01:15:39,380 --> 01:15:44,140
question? The the deep question.
The deep question would be, if

1408
01:15:44,140 --> 01:15:49,600
you had to forego all things to
be played for the rest of your

1409
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:54,880
life and only play one artist in
a tribute band?

1410
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:58,360
Oh, my God. What would that
artist be

1411
01:15:59,500 --> 01:16:03,900
like my till the day you die,
you can't play anything else

1412
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,900
over and over

1413
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,060
and over again.

1414
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:19,200
Okay? And it can't it only can
be yeah one, yeah. I Okay. They

1415
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,580
were a duo, but I would yeah for
forever play their music, log

1416
01:16:22,580 --> 01:16:25,940
ins and Messina. Wow. Interest
Absolutely. Yeah,

1417
01:16:25,940 --> 01:16:29,060
they have enough hits, though. I
mean, your mama don't dance and

1418
01:16:29,060 --> 01:16:30,200
your daddy don't rock and

1419
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:35,360
roll like vehavala That song,
the that record, specifically

1420
01:16:36,980 --> 01:16:41,080
from a drummer's point of view,
please. If you're a drummer or

1421
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,960
percussionist, whatever, go
listen to that record. And what

1422
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:49,360
they did live in the studio,
it's, it's a wonderment of fun.

1423
01:16:49,420 --> 01:16:53,200
And they went on trails of three
minutes after the song. You

1424
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,660
don't get tired of it. They
switch time signatures, they

1425
01:16:55,660 --> 01:16:56,500
switch tempo. Was

1426
01:16:56,500 --> 01:16:58,960
that something coming up that
your parents turned you onto or

1427
01:16:58,960 --> 01:16:59,860
something my dad?

1428
01:16:59,860 --> 01:17:02,400
Yeah. I mean, my dad was the
music. It was the tastemaker,

1429
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:05,280
yeah, it was, like, it was
weird, because we grew up in

1430
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,160
like, ministry, but at the same
time, he was the cool dad, who

1431
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,860
was the hippie way back when,
and was, like, knew all the good

1432
01:17:10,860 --> 01:17:13,200
music, yeah, and so on the way
we'd be on the way, he was the

1433
01:17:13,260 --> 01:17:16,560
principal of my school, so I
grew up. Wow, kid, yeah, which

1434
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,780
is, well, I don't know if you
knew that your dad is a

1435
01:17:18,780 --> 01:17:23,660
principal. He loves Rich Dad,
Bob ricotta, very Italian. Hey,

1436
01:17:24,020 --> 01:17:24,560
cheese.

1437
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,340
John Morgan's dad, nice cabinet.
Drive the bus for you guys. You

1438
01:17:28,340 --> 01:17:28,580
know,

1439
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:32,840
yeah, that's right, but yeah. So
log ins and Messina, I would

1440
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:33,860
say, Wow.

1441
01:17:33,860 --> 01:17:37,100
You are an old soul, totally an
old soul. Love it. So our friend

1442
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:40,360
Jack Bruno has been playing for
Jim Messina, and they just

1443
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,880
played a show over at the
Franklin theater in Franklin,

1444
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,500
Tennessee, and I missed it.
Yeah, and

1445
01:17:44,500 --> 01:17:47,560
the sax player for his band will
be playing with me. Oh,

1446
01:17:47,620 --> 01:17:51,100
there you go. Yeah. See this
next? Steve Nieves, what a

1447
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:53,800
community, yeah, what an
incredible community. What's the

1448
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,380
best way for folks to get in
touch with you guys? Get that

1449
01:17:56,380 --> 01:17:58,120
got a.com or something? Or

1450
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,580
robertri.com, R, I, C, O, T, T,
A, if you can't remember it,

1451
01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:06,240
it's the cheese in every Italian
dish. Robert, ricotta.com. Nice.

1452
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:08,580
That's easy. Easiest way to get
a hold of me. That's amazing.

1453
01:18:08,580 --> 01:18:12,480
And then obviously, socials.
It's wild worlds. How many

1454
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:13,620
people? Yeah, well, that's

1455
01:18:14,219 --> 01:18:16,379
easy. Drums come from John

1456
01:18:16,380 --> 01:18:19,560
and I was because of the cheese,
a friendship, you know,

1457
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,520
conversation where he went,
Look, man, you can't just post

1458
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,400
all, like, my voice over and
acting stuff, and I'm like, All

1459
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,220
right, and he kind of gave me a
hard time about it. And I said,

1460
01:18:28,220 --> 01:18:30,140
Yeah, you're right. You know,
we're on the road the majority

1461
01:18:30,140 --> 01:18:32,720
of the time and and I said,
Well, I'm gonna make a bit of a

1462
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:36,320
fool of myself. I'm not a chops
guy, and my last name's a

1463
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:40,040
cheese. Someone just call it
cheesy drums, amazing. So that's

1464
01:18:40,100 --> 01:18:44,080
but our ricotta is Instagram,
and that's that's also, as you

1465
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:47,200
know, social media is like, the
it's weird. You can message

1466
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,060
people through there now, and
it's okay.

1467
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,940
Lot of people send me DMS like
people, even though want to take

1468
01:18:51,940 --> 01:18:54,700
my drum drum lessons or our drum
10s of it. And I was like, Hey,

1469
01:18:54,700 --> 01:18:59,200
man, here's my number. Yeah, I
prefer texting. I really do,

1470
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:02,220
because I'll see it fit more
than agree. I don't have my

1471
01:19:02,220 --> 01:19:05,220
notifications on from the
socials. Otherwise the phone

1472
01:19:05,220 --> 01:19:06,480
would be like a Christmas

1473
01:19:06,480 --> 01:19:09,420
you're so good at getting right
back. I try to get back to

1474
01:19:09,420 --> 01:19:09,900
people

1475
01:19:10,500 --> 01:19:14,880
immediately. Immediately. I try
that. I try it's great. I really

1476
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:15,660
do. You're good

1477
01:19:15,900 --> 01:19:19,020
at that. If you go to his
website, you're gonna get finger

1478
01:19:19,020 --> 01:19:23,720
fatigue. Looking at the pages as
brands, in my voice just keeps

1479
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:24,440
on going.

1480
01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:26,420
Now, didn't you do some high end
car brands like

1481
01:19:26,900 --> 01:19:31,340
Porsche? Claire just did your
Indian Motorcycle reached out,

1482
01:19:31,340 --> 01:19:33,800
and I've loved their brand for a
long time, just because they

1483
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,440
literally their motorcycles got
us through the First World War,

1484
01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:40,040
which is crazy. So they're like
110 year old parts of history,

1485
01:19:40,700 --> 01:19:44,620
and they re released their
motorcycle that basically

1486
01:19:44,620 --> 01:19:47,260
started their brand way back
when, and they said, Hey, would

1487
01:19:47,260 --> 01:19:49,600
you be the voice of our company?
And I was like, Man, that's

1488
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,500
crazy. So that's been a really
fun one recently to work on with

1489
01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:58,720
them. Yeah, I've done some some
car stuff over the years, and I

1490
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,940
always say, like, low. Voices
that move you are always going

1491
01:20:02,940 --> 01:20:04,560
to sell chocolates and cars

1492
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,860
to you, and there's jewelry,
some some trailers like video

1493
01:20:07,860 --> 01:20:08,160
games,

1494
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,580
yeah, just that's a World Man,
like, you know, when you have

1495
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,540
just goals for yourself, right?
That's it's another thing I feel

1496
01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:18,780
like with to your point of AI,
it's like we got to keep up with

1497
01:20:18,780 --> 01:20:21,500
the times of where things are
going. And it's like video games

1498
01:20:21,500 --> 01:20:25,460
are truly cinematic. Now it's
just unbelievable. They really

1499
01:20:25,460 --> 01:20:28,460
are. And so getting a part of
trailers for video games was a

1500
01:20:28,460 --> 01:20:31,460
goal of mine in the last year
and a half was to just really

1501
01:20:31,460 --> 01:20:34,820
pound that pavement and find
people that I really aligned

1502
01:20:34,820 --> 01:20:37,820
with, and especially characters
and showing that side of what I

1503
01:20:37,820 --> 01:20:42,040
do. So thankfully enough, I've
been working a lot with a brand

1504
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:45,280
called Counter Strike, but they
do a lot of competitions around

1505
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,520
the world, and been doing all
their trailers, which is cool,

1506
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:49,840
and it allows me to

1507
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,980
they kind of give me free reign.
They don't,

1508
01:20:55,480 --> 01:20:58,300
they don't hire another actor.
They go, we want you to do all

1509
01:20:58,300 --> 01:21:01,560
five voices in this trailer. Oh,
it's really, really fun. Oh, my

1510
01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:05,160
God, switch on the spot and it's
fun. Yeah, have conversations

1511
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,800
with yourself. Going, my wife
thinks it's just the weirdest

1512
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,500
thing ever, because, you know,
I'll wake up audio books. It's,

1513
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:13,380
well, it's strange, you know,
you switch on the fly. People

1514
01:21:13,380 --> 01:21:15,360
think it's a session where
you're like, Oh, I'll go, we'll

1515
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:18,300
do that character tomorrow. And
it's like, no, you're doing them

1516
01:21:18,300 --> 01:21:20,340
like, in, you

1517
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,880
know, yeah, holy cow. But that
isn't

1518
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:27,080
credible. So it's, it's a wild
world that way, but it is fun.

1519
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,400
It's a lot of fun, I bet.

1520
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:30,980
Yeah, that's a goal.
Congratulations on that. Thank

1521
01:21:30,980 --> 01:21:33,440
you being achieved. You know, I
was talking to our friend Thomas

1522
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:35,840
Lang about doing video games.
And of course, you know, video

1523
01:21:36,140 --> 01:21:40,660
games as a as an economy, are
like, they are way above music.

1524
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:41,860
Yeah,

1525
01:21:44,140 --> 01:21:47,980
above every I mean, video games
are their own ecosystem. It is.

1526
01:21:47,980 --> 01:21:50,200
And he goes, you would not
believe the budget to these

1527
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:53,320
things. So he says, like armed
security guards will come to his

1528
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:56,800
house with hard drives because
that hard drive has all the

1529
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:01,500
confirmation of the in the FBI
never fell on the wrong so it

1530
01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:05,220
literally Brinks. Security
trucks come with these guy,

1531
01:22:05,460 --> 01:22:08,220
muscle guys. They show up in the
house. There's a guy at the door

1532
01:22:08,460 --> 01:22:11,280
they, he's like, Who's that?
Well, that's my child. That's my

1533
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,740
kid. You know, is he going to be
here during and there's like, a

1534
01:22:13,740 --> 01:22:16,200
whole budget, and they've got
budget for, like, you fill out

1535
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,720
the budget, because they have to
spend the money. So he's, like,

1536
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:24,320
napkins, toilet paper, coffee
catering for the next several

1537
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:27,200
days. That all shows up at the
house, and then these guys are

1538
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:31,460
there while he's tracking and,
you know, he's playing on all

1539
01:22:31,460 --> 01:22:36,080
the like the, you know, that's
the last beat stuff. I would

1540
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,540
never get called for that stuff,
I mean, but it'd be cool at some

1541
01:22:38,540 --> 01:22:41,900
point to do some sort of a video
game. That'd be neat 100% our

1542
01:22:41,900 --> 01:22:44,080
friend Tony Mora does all Mora
does a lot of those too. I

1543
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,360
recorded Tony's house a lot. He
does a lot of those with the

1544
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:47,320
fast feet and stuff.

1545
01:22:47,380 --> 01:22:51,940
So cool. Man, I feel like these.
Another example, just the other

1546
01:22:51,940 --> 01:22:54,940
day, watching on a flight the
Grand Theft Auto thing, you

1547
01:22:54,940 --> 01:22:59,140
know, coming up. Been going, you
look at it. You go, it. This is

1548
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,160
absolute cinema quality, like
the storyline, everything and

1549
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:03,600
you're going, this is where
we're headed.

1550
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,880
And then the actors, with the
with the things they put on,

1551
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:08,820
they've got to do the motion
captures and easy. What an

1552
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,900
industry. Yes, some kid is
literally just becoming just a

1553
01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:15,720
schlep in his room, you know,
not getting any exercise.

1554
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,860
No, the joke is, right? They're
making three times we make daily

1555
01:23:19,860 --> 01:23:22,940
in these competitions. Oh, yeah,
rooms. I mean, you know,

1556
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:26,240
games tournaments. Oh, and
eSports, they do it on Twitch.

1557
01:23:26,300 --> 01:23:27,080
They're making that

1558
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,780
right, you know, six figures a
month, and where they can get

1559
01:23:29,780 --> 01:23:31,820
you and we're over here, yeah,
King Kong,

1560
01:23:33,740 --> 01:23:36,800
going, Wait a second. I'm like,
Dude, I'm destroying my body.

1561
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,840
Hey, Rob, the human body.
Amazing. 25 days ago, I thought

1562
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,300
my career was over. I was
washing the dishes, coffee mug

1563
01:23:43,300 --> 01:23:48,100
handle lacerated. My money
making finger where the fulcrum

1564
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:51,220
or the stick sits right there,
blood all over the wall,

1565
01:23:51,220 --> 01:23:55,600
spraying. I get up, Kara's out
of town, Jim's busy. I Uber to

1566
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,560
the Spring Hill. Er, I get
there, they put five stitches in

1567
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,740
there. I'm going, oh my god,
what am I? Am I gonna lose

1568
01:24:01,740 --> 01:24:04,500
nerves? Am I? Am I gonna have
feeling? Am I gonna my drumming

1569
01:24:04,500 --> 01:24:09,300
ever gonna be the same? Perfect
recovery. God, look at that.

1570
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,000
Right there, right

1571
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,600
there. And that is your, like,
money hand to your snare hand.

1572
01:24:15,780 --> 01:24:18,720
So everyone was like, what'd you
do with your April? I pray to

1573
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:23,720
God. I just watched this thing
heal. Wow, didn't pick up a

1574
01:24:23,720 --> 01:24:25,160
stick, or that could have been

1575
01:24:26,180 --> 01:24:28,580
crazy. Could have been bad,
could have been bad,

1576
01:24:28,580 --> 01:24:32,240
but it wasn't because of the big
G in the sky. Rob ricotta,

1577
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:35,180
thanks for being here. Man, oh
my gosh. Man, wonderful to spend

1578
01:24:35,180 --> 01:24:38,120
this time. Good to meet you. I'm
just so glad maybe you guys can

1579
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,800
do the thing. You can have
synergy. You can join voice over

1580
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:45,880
groups together. You can have
voice battles, table readings,

1581
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:46,000
yeah,

1582
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,400
yeah, that's exactly. So I've
never done any of that kind of

1583
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,980
stuff. I really need to get more
into it. I just never had an

1584
01:24:50,980 --> 01:24:52,000
opportunity. It's really

1585
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,960
fun where you're about to do it.
And so people can contact you on

1586
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:58,840
the socials, and they can see
you on tour with John Morgan,

1587
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,140
and they could see you play
your. New number one song,

1588
01:25:01,140 --> 01:25:04,500
friends like that. Awesome.
Congratulations on playing on

1589
01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:08,520
the new record, Carolina blue.
Appreciate it. Rob, love you

1590
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:11,100
buddy. Thanks for the gifts. Of
course. Love you man. Let's get

1591
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:14,160
social. Maybe we'll go smoke a
cigar right now. Done. Nice,

1592
01:25:14,220 --> 01:25:16,560
Jim. Thank you for all your time
and talent, of course, as

1593
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,780
always. And to all the folks out
there, thank you so much for

1594
01:25:18,780 --> 01:25:21,980
listening to our show, watching
our show, be sure to subscribe,

1595
01:25:21,980 --> 01:25:25,340
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1596
01:25:25,340 --> 01:25:28,280
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It really helps people find the

1597
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:30,500
show. We'll see you next time.
Thanks, Rob, thanks, Jim,

1598
01:25:30,980 --> 01:25:31,760
thank you. Thank you.

1599
01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:58,240
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1600
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