WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:03.720 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:06.480 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:13.880 practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys. My 4 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:16.280 name is Chris Man. This is Jeff to be a 5 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.480 good one. It is. We are excited for today. In fact, 6 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:23.320 if you're watching on YouTube, I'm wearing the Bible Guys 7 00:00:23.399 --> 00:00:25.839 T shirt with the Bible Guy's. 8 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:27.760 Logo logu logu. 9 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:31.000 So we are very excited to be with you here today. 10 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:32.960 And we are in the middle of a series called 11 00:00:33.039 --> 00:00:36.439 Dangerous Prayers. And so this series is gonna. 12 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:37.679 Go oinate your grandma's prayers. 13 00:00:37.880 --> 00:00:39.719 No, not your grandma's prayers. 14 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:41.320 There's other kind of prayers. We're daring you. 15 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:44.399 How do you know that your grandma wasn't dangerous? 16 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:45.759 My grandma was dangerous. 17 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:47.000 There's a lot of dangerous grandma's. 18 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:49.439 I saw my grandma tear the head off a chicken 19 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:53.000 one time, did you well, there you go. We were 20 00:00:53.399 --> 00:00:55.799 butchering chickens. We had like a hundred chickens. Yeah, so 21 00:00:55.840 --> 00:00:59.039 we're butchering mountain yard. My grandmother come out and she's like, oh, 22 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:02.119 you know, amazing, grace apple Pie. Grandma bun on the 23 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.719 back of her head skirts, you know, or her nyelnes 24 00:01:04.760 --> 00:01:07.280 right in the middle of her calf. Kind of old lady, 25 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:10.400 you know, with the like leather shoes and the glasses. 26 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:12.519 She come out and she's like, what are you doing, Like, 27 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:14.359 we're butchering, you know, we had to hatchet. We're get 28 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:17.159 killing chickens. And she goes, that's not how you do it. 29 00:01:17.239 --> 00:01:19.519 She just reaches down, she picks up a chicken, and 30 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:21.680 she said, when you hit them with the hatchet like that, 31 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:24.000 it casts them the tense up. You least a bunch 32 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:27.200 of adrenaline and it just tightens their their their muscles. 33 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:29.400 And she just pulled that right up. That's how you 34 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:32.319 do it. My grandmother had to butcher chicken every Sunday, 35 00:01:32.439 --> 00:01:35.000 you know, because they had chicken fried chicken at the church. 36 00:01:35.560 --> 00:01:37.799 So she go up butcher chicken every Sunday morning for church. 37 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:38.400 Wow. 38 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.879 Wow, it was a different world, man, that's a different world. Yeah, 39 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:45.120 so all right, grandma was kind of dangerous. Yeah, I 40 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:46.519 have her back talked to her after that. I'll tell 41 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:49.640 you that I was like ten, eleven years old, eleven 42 00:01:49.680 --> 00:01:50.040 or twelve. 43 00:01:50.280 --> 00:01:51.439 Imagine it'd be hard to forget. 44 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:53.439 Yeah, Yeah, it was traumatic. 45 00:01:53.680 --> 00:01:57.680 Yeah, I bet. Hey, so does Ray put us put 46 00:01:57.680 --> 00:02:02.560 together for us? A segment called Bible versus Aika. It says, 47 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.640 Chris will ask Jeff a question, let Jeff answer, then 48 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:08.599 ask chat GPT the same question, compare the answers to 49 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:12.039 vote who wins, and then ask the listeners to comment 50 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:13.120 who they thought won. 51 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:15.199 Okay, so it's me against chat JPT. 52 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.360 Yeah. So here's the I'm going to ask you. 53 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:19.240 Right now. 54 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:20.960 I'm going to ask you what I think is a 55 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.960 is a particularly hard question, but it's an easy topic. 56 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:25.719 Okay. 57 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:26.520 Does that makes sense? 58 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:26.919 Yes? 59 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:29.560 So there's really no consequences to this. It's not like 60 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:30.919 I'm asking you a Bible question. 61 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:32.919 I'm not worried about consequences. 62 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:37.759 Okay, So here we go. Ready, in your opinion, what 63 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:42.280 is the greatest song ever written and recorded based on 64 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:45.560 the majority opinions over the last six decades? 65 00:02:45.599 --> 00:02:51.759 And why last six decades? Yes, oh, my goodness, the 66 00:02:51.840 --> 00:02:54.639 greatest songs In other words, in your lifetime, the greatest 67 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:57.479 song ever written? Here what I said in my lifetime? 68 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:03.120 The last six decades. Yes, I'm going to say. I'm 69 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:08.759 going to say, according to pop opinion, Yes, in the 70 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:13.800 last six decades, the greatest song ever written and recorded, 71 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.759 according to popular opinion, is going to be imagined by 72 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:18.319 the Beatles. 73 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:23.479 Now tell me why, by the way, great answer, great answer. 74 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:26.960 I think so, But tell me why, uh, Because I 75 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:29.319 think that there's still a ton of Beatles fans out there, 76 00:03:29.400 --> 00:03:32.879 and I think that it had a pretty significant impact 77 00:03:33.000 --> 00:03:36.120 on society and still gets played a lot. It has 78 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:43.319 this idealistic view of how the world could be if 79 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:46.439 we were all just better. It's kind of a kumbaya song, 80 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:48.919 but in a meaningful way by one of the biggest 81 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:49.680 bands in history. 82 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:52.199 Okay, yeah, all right, so. 83 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:53.520 I think did you look it up? 84 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:53.879 I did? 85 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:55.120 Of course you already looked up yep. 86 00:03:55.120 --> 00:03:57.919 I already asked chet did you what? 87 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.319 Did so read it? What did you? Yes? And it says, well, 88 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:01.639 what did you ask? What was the question? 89 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:04.280 Oh? Well, I I was very specific with it, so 90 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:07.879 I wore it was worthy or no, it's the same. 91 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:09.639 It is the same way. I just said, what is 92 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:11.479 the best song ever written and recorded based on the 93 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:13.560 majority of opinions of people over the last six decades? 94 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:15.800 And once you give that answer to that question, then 95 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:19.399 explaining detail why you think that particular song is the best. 96 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:21.639 Okay, okay, So same question, okay, And. 97 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:26.319 It basically said, while there's no you know best, it's subjective, 98 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:29.560 but based on the last sixty decades of public opinion, 99 00:04:29.600 --> 00:04:33.600 critical consensus, and cultural influence, one song consistently rises to 100 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:36.560 the top. Like a Rolling Stone by Bob Dylan in 101 00:04:36.639 --> 00:04:41.040 nineteen sixty five, why many consider it the greatest critical 102 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:44.839 acclaim and consensus. It talks about Rolling Stone rated at 103 00:04:44.879 --> 00:04:51.000 number one acclaimed music, critically acclaimed, cultural and historical impact, 104 00:04:51.560 --> 00:04:55.079 fan popularity across eras. But wait, just using keep listening 105 00:04:55.279 --> 00:04:57.160 because you're going to be pleased with what I'm about 106 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:02.839 to say next. Okay, fan popularity across eras. They rank 107 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:06.839 it as the number one fan voted most popular songs rankings, 108 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:09.959 and then they say why, like a Rolling Stone stands 109 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:16.160 out revolutionary form in tone, emotional and lyrical depth, everlasting influence, 110 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:20.519 balanced acclaim other contenders, And then it says this other 111 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:24.720 contenders based on poles and opinions. These legends also ranked 112 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:27.480 highly in similar surveys and discussions. The first one at 113 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:31.879 lists Imagine by John Lennon in nineteen seventy one, universally 114 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:36.160 regarded as a modern hymn for peace and humanity humanism. 115 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.959 Guinness ranked it as the second best single ever recorded, 116 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:44.079 behind Bohemian rat Rhapsody. 117 00:05:44.199 --> 00:05:46.240 See I almost did Bohemian Rhapsody. 118 00:05:45.959 --> 00:05:52.079 YEP, positioned on Rolling Stones and other greatest songs ever written. 119 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:55.720 Bohemian Rhapsody was the other contender by nineteen seventy five 120 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:59.360 by Queen and then it goes on God Only Knows 121 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.079 by the beach book What's going On by Marvin Gay, 122 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:04.720 and then it gives look at this convenient little thing here, 123 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:09.519 it gives a summary, okay, and it says this, here's 124 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.560 the song, and then why it's revered. So this is 125 00:06:12.600 --> 00:06:16.680 actually the most the most insightful okay, like a rolling stone. 126 00:06:16.680 --> 00:06:22.120 Why it's revered because of its groundbreaking form, unmatched critical consensus, 127 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:27.480 and cultural revolution. Imagine was revered because of its uplifting 128 00:06:27.519 --> 00:06:32.360 message of peace and its widespread public affection. Bohemian rhaps 129 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:35.639 He was revered because of its bold, multi genre epic 130 00:06:36.480 --> 00:06:41.279 and then also unmatched global reach. God Only Knows was 131 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:45.879 revered because of its artistic and emotional perfection and peer acclaim. 132 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.360 Yeah, and the musical complexity was unbelievable in that one. Yes, 133 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:52.680 and then I think Musically they say that may be 134 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:55.040 the perfect song. Wow, harmonically all those things. 135 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:59.480 And then the other song is What's going On by 136 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:04.560 Marvin Gaye because it's revered by its socially uh conscious 137 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:07.120 and then deeply soulful and timely. 138 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:10.879 Okay, well I picked the number two one according to 139 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.639 according to jet Checchi, but here's what I would say. 140 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:18.879 Check is wrong. GPT's wrong. Yeah, yeah, like a rolling Stones, 141 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:20.120 not better than imagine. 142 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:23.600 Well it says, it says it's opinion because remember I 143 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:26.120 told it then give it its opinion. So those were 144 00:07:26.160 --> 00:07:27.319 all the clinic. 145 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:28.360 You know, consensus. 146 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:30.720 It says, because it rewrote the rule book of what 147 00:07:30.759 --> 00:07:33.879 a pop or rock song could be, and its intensity 148 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:36.959 and lyricism speak both to the personal and the universal. 149 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:42.879 And then the power of sixty years later. Yeah, so 150 00:07:43.079 --> 00:07:45.720 what it was really saying is groundbreaking for its day, 151 00:07:46.000 --> 00:07:48.519 for its time, right time, right song, right time? 152 00:07:50.079 --> 00:07:52.560 Yeah, ho hum, it's wrong. 153 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:55.120 Well I don't really like the song like a chutch. 154 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:58.160 Stone either chet GPT can be wrong. It doesn't actually right. 155 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:00.759 GPT does wrong math too. Did you know that? 156 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:02.680 Hey? Hey, did you hear that? Buddy? 157 00:08:02.920 --> 00:08:03.240 Yeah? 158 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:05.120 Did you hear what he said? Because I know you did. 159 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:07.120 I know you heard it. 160 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.000 Now it's gonna hate me. It's gonna be like it's 161 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:13.399 gonna the light's gonna turn from green to red and 162 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:14.920 start staring at me everywhere I go. 163 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:17.319 Now i'm gonna say this. Okay, Now I'm gonna Now 164 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:21.759 I'm gonna ask you another question. Who's a bigger fan 165 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:25.399 of chat GPT? Is it Chris Zarba or Jeff Forrester 166 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:33.759 Based on recent conversations you were listening to, it has 167 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.480 to answer this. It's probably gonna say something politically nice. 168 00:08:36.519 --> 00:08:41.159 I hope it does. Okay, it's still thinking. 169 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:41.879 I'm still thinking. 170 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:42.919 It doesn't know what it's saying. 171 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.720 It's right, we need to move on. I know it's 172 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:52.120 not gonna do it for you. Okay, So uh, speaking 173 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:54.639 of man, I don't even have a transition for this, 174 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:55.320 do you. 175 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:55.639 Yeah? 176 00:08:55.799 --> 00:08:59.080 Not really speaking of asking a big, big, complex question. 177 00:08:59.159 --> 00:09:00.919 Oooh there it is, yeah, where it is? 178 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:02.360 Yeah, Yeah, there's a guy in them. 179 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:05.039 Speaking of asking a big things. 180 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:09.799 That's what we're talking about today. So we're in First Chronicles, 181 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:10.759 chapter four. 182 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:11.799 Oh oh it didn't. 183 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:14.080 It did everybody everybody's favorite chronicles. 184 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:16.759 You know why it didn't answer me? Because I had 185 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:17.759 an airplane mode. 186 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:19.240 Oh that's why. 187 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:21.600 Oh it says I don't have the ability to listen 188 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:23.639 in on conversations outside of what you share with me. 189 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:27.360 I can't compare individuals private usage. What I can say 190 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:29.960 is what I only know about Chris Arba's interactions because 191 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:32.559 you've been chatting with me under that name. I don't 192 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:36.000 have any record of Jeff Forrester using chat gpt H. 193 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:39.559 Yeah, that's the right answer, chat GBT. 194 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.879 What you don't tell it your name? 195 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:44.639 It knows me. 196 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:46.519 It apparently doesn't. 197 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:48.519 Oh yeah, yeah, ask it. 198 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:49.440 It knows me though. 199 00:09:50.799 --> 00:09:51.399 Describe. 200 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:53.480 Okay, Now we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna 201 00:09:53.519 --> 00:09:54.360 get obsessed with this. 202 00:09:55.879 --> 00:10:02.720 It knows me. It's just from what you've shared with me. 203 00:10:02.720 --> 00:10:04.879 Here's a description Jeff Forester. He's a pastor, a leader 204 00:10:04.919 --> 00:10:08.399 communicator known for combining visionary leadership with practical, down to 205 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:11.039 earth style. Serves as senior pastor Heritage Church, where he's 206 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:14.000 guided the ministry to remarkable growth. Under his leadership, the 207 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:17.120 church has expanded to multiple campuses, launch new services, baptized 208 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:19.639 downs as, and new believers. It's also a strategic partner 209 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:21.440 with the Timothy initiative playing a major role. 210 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:24.720 Okay, that is super scary, super scary. 211 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:29.799 It actually say entrepreneur, entrepreneurial. He co hosts The Bible 212 00:10:29.840 --> 00:10:31.159 Guy's podcast with Chris Sarba. 213 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:35.919 Okay, did you know? Did you know that it actually 214 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.799 listed your growth? It said seventeen percent growth? 215 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.639 Isn't it crazy? He loves big adventures. He's also a 216 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:44.559 foodie and skilled cook. He's faithful the scripture, passionate about 217 00:10:44.559 --> 00:10:47.240 disciple making term of live with integrity, courage, and creativity. 218 00:10:48.440 --> 00:10:49.360 Okay, that's crazy. 219 00:10:49.360 --> 00:10:49.799 It knows me. 220 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:53.559 It's crazy. I'm telling you it's going to be our doom. 221 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.080 It gave you one of those secret It gave you 222 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:00.879 one of those politically correct answers. What me, I'm not 223 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:04.480 in spying on you, right right? Okay, okay, So back 224 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:06.960 to this guy who asked big questions. It's in First Chronicles, 225 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.679 chapter four. I'm gonna start reading in verse five, and 226 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.799 it says Asher, the father Takoa had two wives named 227 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:17.200 HeLa and Nahara. Naara gave birth to Who's m heath 228 00:11:17.720 --> 00:11:21.840 dem and I and ha ash Ha ha ha Stai. 229 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:28.360 HeLa gave birth to zarath is Her eith Nan and 230 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:33.240 Kas who became the ancestor of anub Zobaba and all 231 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:40.360 the families a harra hal Al son of Harim who 232 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:44.159 There was a man named Jabez who was more honorable 233 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:47.600 than any of his brothers. His mother named him Jabez 234 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.679 because his birth had been so painful. He was the 235 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:52.799 one who prayed to the God of Israel, Oh, that 236 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.200 you would bless me and expand my territory. Please be 237 00:11:56.279 --> 00:11:58.200 with me and all that I do, and keep me 238 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:03.360 from all trouble and pain. And God granted him his requests. Keleb, 239 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.360 the brother of Shahua or Shuha, was the father of 240 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:11.039 me Her me Here was the father of Echhton. Eshton 241 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:16.759 was the father of beth Rapha Pasah, and Tehina Tohina 242 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:20.840 was the father of ir Nahash. These were the descendants 243 00:12:20.840 --> 00:12:21.279 of Recca. 244 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.039 So so so am I I asked Jeff actually before 245 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:28.559 the before the podcast started, I said, wouldn't it be 246 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.320 fun for you to uh, for you to read some 247 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.879 of the lineage verses, because the prayer of Jabez is 248 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:42.480 actually found in the middle of this incredibly boring, yet 249 00:12:42.559 --> 00:12:45.919 I'm sure important for some reason to God. 250 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.159 Well, it's important to lay out the the family lines 251 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:52.799 because you have to be able to prove that Jesus 252 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:53.759 was the son of Abraham. 253 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:54.720 Is that what this does? 254 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:59.279 What's that that? That's why all of the lineages exist 255 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:01.240 in the Bible, is you have to prove that Jesus 256 00:13:01.279 --> 00:13:03.159 is the son of Abraham. Which these are all the 257 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:03.919 sons of Abraham. 258 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:06.600 Fact I knew that was the lineage purposes in the 259 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:07.279 two Gospels. 260 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:10.679 Well this is that. That's the lineage of Judah. Those 261 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:14.200 are the descendants of Judah right there. Okay, So then 262 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:18.039 most of the lineages point to back to Abraham. A 263 00:13:18.039 --> 00:13:20.279 bunch of the lineage just point back to David. So 264 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:21.600 he had to be the son of David. He had 265 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:23.480 to be the son of Abraham. And so that's why 266 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:25.919 they matter. So you and I don't know those names, 267 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:28.840 but they matter because the prophecy was Jesus was going 268 00:13:28.879 --> 00:13:31.000 to be the son of Abraham and a son of David. 269 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.600 You had to be able to directly tie them to both. Yeah, 270 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:35.679 So Mary and Joseph were both part of the the 271 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:41.240 the royal line of King David, and they were relatives 272 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:42.039 of Abraham. 273 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:45.879 So so right in the middle of this lineage with 274 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.480 all these crazy names that I asked Jeff to tackle, 275 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:52.120 which is hilarious. That was so funny. That was one 276 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:53.000 of that. That was one of these. 277 00:13:53.080 --> 00:13:53.639 It was hard. 278 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:57.000 That was one of the hardest lineages ever. But right 279 00:13:57.039 --> 00:13:59.759 in the middle is this Prayer of Jabez in which 280 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:03.960 really strange is that Jabez is They're like, oh, and 281 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:07.360 then there was Jabez And by the way, Jabev was 282 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:09.759 the guy that prayed this prayer and that God granted 283 00:14:09.840 --> 00:14:12.320 him his request And okay, now let's just move on 284 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.679 with the rest of the lineags, right, And and that's 285 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.159 one of the reasons why, I mean in our lifetime 286 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.519 when when was it It was like it was right 287 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:25.240 around the late nineties where who was the author? Was 288 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:29.120 it Bruce Wilkinson where he actually wrote a book called 289 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:33.519 The Prayer of Jabez? Yes, and he just just made 290 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:36.960 two verses. He made a splash on the Christian community, 291 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:37.720 that's for darn sure. 292 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:39.279 Well had a big impact on a lot of people, 293 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:42.399 a lot, a really big impact. So there's there's thirteen 294 00:14:42.679 --> 00:14:47.080 pages of names. Wow, in the middle of thirteen pages 295 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:50.960 of names, there's these two verses. Yeah, with thirteen pages 296 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:51.879 and names, man. 297 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:57.879 Yeah, And it lays out the fact that Jabez and 298 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.720 asked this really a kind of on the surface on 299 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.759 a dacious prayer, and then God answers it, and he 300 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:06.879 says God granted him his request, and it just moves on. 301 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.879 And so my wife actually bought me a big wooden 302 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:16.039 very expensive, I might add, wooden plaque, this big with 303 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:17.919 the prayer of Jabez on it, to hang in my office. 304 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.840 Oh yeah, it was carved in to this huge wooden plaque. 305 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:22.440 I bet you was. I mean it had been one 306 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:25.159 hundred and fifty bucks or something. And I hung at 307 00:15:25.200 --> 00:15:28.919 my office for years. But then afterwards I think I 308 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.679 gifted to somebody, I think when I moved up to Michigan. 309 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:35.039 But it was in my office for a very long time. 310 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.720 Well, so the Bible says that Jabez was more honorable 311 00:15:38.759 --> 00:15:41.360 than any of his brothers. So the word honorable there, 312 00:15:41.360 --> 00:15:44.840 it's talking about he tried to honor God more than 313 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:46.559 his brother. He was pursuing God, trying to do the 314 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:52.799 right thing all the time. So and in that he 315 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:57.320 comes to his comes to God and he says, you know, 316 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:01.279 I'm asking you to bless me. I'm asking you to 317 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:04.200 help me in my work by expanding my territory. Right, 318 00:16:04.919 --> 00:16:08.080 build out my find be with me in everything that 319 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:10.000 I do, and then keep me from any kind of 320 00:16:10.039 --> 00:16:14.200 harm around me. Right, And the Bible says, so God did. 321 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:18.200 He answered all of his prayers. Right, God granted him 322 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:21.519 his request. So it's not wrong to pray that God 323 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:24.559 would bless us. I think is the big the big 324 00:16:24.600 --> 00:16:28.919 takeaway here that he decided God, You're my only source 325 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:33.840 of hope to find blessing. You're my only source of 326 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.720 hope to find expansion in my work. You're the only 327 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:40.480 source of hope I have to be protected from the 328 00:16:40.519 --> 00:16:42.480 difficult things that happened to everybody in life. 329 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:45.240 Right. And for a while there, remember that song that 330 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:48.799 went along with this, Father bless me. Indeed You're all 331 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:54.519 that I need expand my horizons beyond what I see. 332 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:57.840 That was the prayer gIBIS song. So yeah, that was 333 00:16:57.840 --> 00:16:59.960 popular for a while at the same exact time as well. 334 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:05.279 So yeah, I just definitely remember being completely inspired by 335 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:10.519 by you know, I connected it to the prayer of 336 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:17.039 Remember Jesus taught the prayer uh Basically basically, he in 337 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:20.880 so many words challenge us to pray pray big. Remember, 338 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:25.039 so Jesus himself said pray big, right, like like like 339 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:27.680 just you know, don't be afraid to ask God for 340 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:32.160 big things. And and so it's a biblical concept. It's 341 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.480 not just a reference to you know, this man named Jabez. 342 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:39.319 It's not this isolated thing that happened just to him. 343 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:43.279 It is a It is attached to, uh, you know, 344 00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:47.960 God's desire for us to dream big, pray big. And 345 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.960 of course as long as our you know, desires line 346 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.359 up in God's will and he's willing to grant us, 347 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:56.079 grant us our request, then there's nothing wrong with with 348 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.119 with those kinds of things. Because, after all, Jabez says, hey, 349 00:17:59.319 --> 00:18:02.039 you know you're you're the one that I want. You 350 00:18:02.039 --> 00:18:06.160 can tell that Jabez wants to honor God in this prayer. 351 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:06.559 Right right. 352 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:11.960 Uh well, actually, I guess I guess the only thing 353 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.240 that that says that is he was honorable. 354 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.240 It says it was honorable. Also says his mother named 355 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:21.079 him Jabez because his birth so painful, and the word 356 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:25.480 in Hebrew jbez, sounds like a Hebrew word that means 357 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:28.759 distress or pain. So those are two things we know. 358 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:31.400 He was a pain to his mother and he was 359 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:33.000 more honorable than his brothers. 360 00:18:33.079 --> 00:18:35.599 Yeah, well, I guess I guess what I was looking 361 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:38.359 for was I was looking for a desire for God, 362 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:40.319 and I guess it isn't here. It says, please be 363 00:18:40.440 --> 00:18:41.920 with me in all that I do. 364 00:18:42.359 --> 00:18:44.640 Yeah, right, yeah, so there is I think that the 365 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:48.000 honorable is that too, Yeah, that's right right, that he's 366 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:52.079 he's a part of the family of Judah, and so 367 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:55.200 he's part of God's people. And I think that when 368 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:57.039 you find that he's more honorable, I think that's what 369 00:18:57.039 --> 00:19:00.519 you're discovering, is that he's following God's ways in a 370 00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:04.160 better fashion than his brothers are. And then, but can 371 00:19:04.200 --> 00:19:06.640 you imagine being born with a name, given a name 372 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:10.519 from the very get go just pain? How difficult that 373 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:13.039 that would be in life? Right, to have a life, 374 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:20.000 your whole life, your pain. And I think could have 375 00:19:20.200 --> 00:19:25.920 a real, almost a victimizing kind of of of view 376 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:28.839 of your life. I'm just a pain to everybody, I'm 377 00:19:28.880 --> 00:19:30.640 just a bother to everybody. Whatever. 378 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.200 And it could be that maybe he was given his 379 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:35.640 lot in life based on those things, Yeah, which is 380 00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:38.119 one of the reasons why he prayed expand my territory. Yeah, 381 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:40.480 help me to get out from underneath this. 382 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.720 One hundred percent. Yeah, Yeah, I think that's what he's asking. 383 00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.039 I think he's asking, God, deliver me from these things 384 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.720 and help me be everything I can be. Help me 385 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:50.000 be everything that you made me to be. That's I 386 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:52.279 think what he's asking. So the Bible says that God 387 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:54.799 opposes the proud, but he gives grace to the humble. 388 00:19:55.279 --> 00:19:57.839 And I think that this idea that he's honorable. I 389 00:19:57.880 --> 00:19:59.880 think that's what it is. Is he's humbling himself to 390 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.480 o God's ways and then he's asking God, oh, that 391 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:07.680 you would bless me. So God's not gonna bless a 392 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:12.359 prideful man. He opposes prideful people. So this, this humbled 393 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:16.799 man comes to God and he says, I need you 394 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:19.079 to bless me. My mom didn't bless me, my dad 395 00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:23.640 didn't bless me, not in my name anyways. And oftentimes 396 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:26.079 your name determined what you were going to do in 397 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:28.519 your life. Yeah. 398 00:20:28.559 --> 00:20:31.920 And there's a footnote here in this Bible that i'm reading. 399 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:37.160 This is actually I'm reading from the Worn Weirsby Transformation 400 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:38.000 Study Bible. 401 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:39.680