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Hey everybody, welcome back to the Thrilling Partners podcast.

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It's Kirby and Joseph here.

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Coming to you on a Wednesday night, we are going to give you the breakdown of the trade
deadline.

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Trade deadline ended, it was basically done yesterday at five o 'clock central standard
time.

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So we are going to go over the winners of the trade deadline, the losers of the trade
deadline, how the trade deadline affects our teams.

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And then also the teams that are probably going to be better set up for the future.

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So Joe, I want to hear about your winners at the trade deadline.

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And then I'm going to give you some of my winners and I might chip in.

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kind of play back and forth about who we thought were the winners.

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So go ahead.

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Yeah, so my number one winner, obviously, I mean, they just do it every year.

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They get whoever they want.

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They pay for whoever they want.

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It's the Los Angeles Dodgers.

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They made a buzzer beater at the deadline trading with the Detroit Tigers for local kid
Jack Flaherty.

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And he was honestly the pitcher of the deadline outside of, and this is going to sound
crazy, but you say Kikuchi.

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he was probably the first, the top arm available and Kikuchi was probably the second, best
arm available as stuff wise, for starting pitching and, the Dodgers got Tommy Edmond,

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Ahmed Rosario for the second year in a row.

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And then Michael Koepke, from the white socks.

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and they're, hands down, you know, the winners of the deadline.

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For the Jack Flaherty trade, they really didn't give up very much.

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I believe they gave up their second prospect, their second ranked prospect and their 25th
prospect, their 25th ranked prospect, if I'm not mistaken.

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But I mean, it just...

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overall for him.

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Yeah, I mean, they just they continue to get, I said, whoever they want, whenever they
want.

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And just I mean, they're set up for the future.

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As in this season and just making a huge run.

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Although I know a lot of Dodgers fans were complaining that they did not address the real
concerns with their lineup because they do have a lot of players out with injury right

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now.

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And then Freddie Freeman is obviously dealing with some family issue.

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issues.

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So he's out as well.

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But they were frustrated that they didn't address a real bat.

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But they've bolstered their rotation for October.

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now they'll probably be able to choke in the NLCS this time instead of the NLDS, you know.

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Well, I actually, let me give you a fun fact real quick, Joe.

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So, you know, you were saying that Jack Flaherty is a native or a local to LA.

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Did you know that Jack Flaherty, Lucas Gialito, and Max Fried all went to the same high
school at the same time?

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Did you know

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I did not know that that was a crazy rotation.

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Imagine getting out of...

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Imagine getting out of...

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I know what I was just about to say.

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I Mean that's unreal.

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but Yeah, well I actually want to say this to Joe before we close on the Dodgers because
like you said they had a great tread that trade deadline like they always do but I

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Actually think they have a really good shot to extend Flaherty and I actually wouldn't be
surprised

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Absolutely.

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within the next couple of weeks just because he is a native to there.

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Not to mention they have a really good, you know, picture development system, you know,
that they always have arms.

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So I can easily see Flaherty being in a Dodger uniform, not only this year, but also in
the years to come, which also terrifies me because if Flaherty says, I really like the

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Dodgers, well, guess what?

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at once teammates with Max Fried, who's also a free agent.

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So it wouldn't surprise me to see, honestly, both of them in a Dodger uniform next year,
along with Glassnow and Yamamoto and whoever else they feel like going to get.

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So the Dodgers, like you said, I think they could be set up just because of that.

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And then Michael Kopek too, Joe.

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This guy's a hard thrower, just like they like.

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was actually, he's been really good so far this year.

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I feel like he's only gonna get better in a Dodger uniform.

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And then they also got Kevin Keirmeyer, which is basically just outfield depth, but we've
all seen the plays that that guy can make.

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He can hold down any outfield position and be great at it.

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So they did a really nice trade deadline.

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Who else do you feel like was a winner, Joe?

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Because I got a couple of teams in mind.

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I think, this is might surprise some people just because they have a big prospect pool and
they really didn't get rid of anybody.

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But I think the Mariners were also a winner at the deadline.

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They got Randy Rosarena, who if you look at his full season numbers, aren't great compared
to the rest of his career.

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But in the last nine weeks, he's been on an absolute heater and he's been picking those
numbers back up.

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And then they got a gritty veteran and someone familiar to the Astros and Justin Turner.

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who was always an Astros killer.

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I hated playing against him, when he was a Dodger and then during his time with the blue
Jays this year, it was also a pest and annoying.

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so I think, you know, that sets them up better than what they had, you know, offensively.

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And they also added Yemi Garcia to the bullpen who could be a sneaky pickup for them as
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so I think that, you know,

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That addition of Randy Rosarena, I wanted him on the Astros so bad when I heard that the
Rays were going to sell.

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I've wanted Randy Rosarena on the Astros for so long and I've made so many jokes on
Twitter because the Rays always do this.

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They always develop a player and then they sell them like, like nobody's business.

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But I had been making this joke that Randy Rosarena was going to be a future Astro

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like three years now and I'm really sad to see him go to the Mariners because he is now a
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got to put on his downfall.

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So that's really it really sucks to see but you know, I do think that they were winners
and they didn't give up much for this trade deadline.

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I think that they bolstered their rotation.

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Sorry, not the rotation their lineup and they got a high leverage bullpen arm

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Yemi Garcia.

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I agree.

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I think there's another winner here just because they had a very simple trade deadline,
which is the Cardinals, because Eric Fetty has had a really fantastic year and he's very

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cheap.

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And then also too, they went and got Tommy Fam, which if there's ever been a fire up the
boys kind of guy or fire up the clubhouse kind of guy, it's Tommy Fam.

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He's got an edge to him.

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People know that he puts up with no crap from anybody.

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He hit a grand slam today.

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or yesterday, I'm sorry.

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So, I mean, this guy hit third on the NL champion Diamondbacks roster last year in the
World Series.

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Tommy Pham is a ball player.

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I don't care that he is in his mid to late 30s.

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Tommy Pham is going to give you quality at bats.

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He's got good speed on the bases and he plays good defense.

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He is a solid player.

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So the Cardinals getting Pham and Fetty and not really giving up anything.

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But they also got rid of, I don't want to call it dead weight because that's not fair to
Dylan Carlson or Tommy Edmond.

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But they essentially did away with those guys.

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And yeah, I think it was a good trade deadline for them.

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Joe, do you feel about the Orioles trade deadline?

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Because they got a lot of guys, but I have my opinions about it.

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So go ahead, let me hear your opinion about

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So I think the Orioles did okay.

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They did give up a lot in that trade with the Marlins.

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And I'm just going to give a, I think the Marlins are also very clear winners here at the
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I just want to point that out.

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They made some really good trades at the deadline and even in May trading Luis Arias.

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But I mean, they got a haul for Chaz Chisholm and

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for Tanner Scott.

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mean, you're talking about a rental, high leverage reliever, and you've got Connor Norby
and I forgot the other prospect, Kyle Stowers, who they both great out to be some pretty

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decent prospects for the Marlins, only continuing to build their system after having it
depleted over the last couple of years.

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You know, the Orioles did okay.

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I don't think there were really winners or losers.

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I think they did what they thought they had to, to really solidify their spot as being a
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I don't, I mean, I don't, like I said, I don't think that they, I don't think that they
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I think that they had a decent deadline.

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I agree that they had definitely had a decent deadline.

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I mean, the haul that Trevor Rogers got Joe basically told me that the Braves were not
going to go get a starting pitcher when they traded Connor Norby and Kyle Stowers for him.

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When I saw that return, I said, there is no way that the Braves go get a starter.

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It's not happening because first of all, Alex Anthopoulos does not give up top prospects.

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And he's for sure not going to give up a top five one.

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for a starter like Trevor Rogers.

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He's not good, by the way.

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He's just gonna be an innings eater for them.

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The Zach Efflin trade that they did, I thought that was a really solid move.

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The one that, it was just surprising to me that they went out and got Eloy Jimenez from
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That move to me was kinda odd, but at the same time, we have seen, first of all, we have
seen the Orioles draft extremely well.

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But not only have they drafted well, they have also developed well.

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Because most of the guys that they have developed that have come up to the big leagues
have had success in the big leagues If they can keep it loyal him in as healthy he is in a

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very valuable asset to them We saw what he did in his rookie campaign.

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I Mean this guy was fourth and rookie of the year voting.

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I think he hit 31 homers that year Joe he could very well be a superstar in Baltimore,
especially he's going to have lineup protection He's gonna have some of the best player

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development

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in the country, in Baltimore.

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We have seen that with their players.

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So I'm interested to see what they squeeze out of him.

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And you know what, maybe he is just an off season, an off season move where they move him
and they get more prospects back or they get an arm back or something like that.

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So that one to me was probably the most shocking because he's not the guy that we all
thought that the White Sox were going to trade in either Garrett Crochet or Luis Robert.

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And I apologize.

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I've got the pitcher who the Orioles traded for mixed up.

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It was not Tanner Scott that he went to the Padres.

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It was Trevor Rogers who went to the Orioles, the lefty that has, I believe it's like two
or three more years of control on his contract.

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But yeah, they went out and surprised everybody getting Aloy Jimenez

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I think the White Sox, if you want to talk about a real loser, they were, them and the
Tigers and the Ashrows were all losers, all for very different reasons, but we can get

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into that in a little

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I gotta ask you this, okay?

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How do you feel about what Garrett Crochet said when he said that if I'm going to be
traded to a playoff contender, I want an extension before playoff time comes?

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How do you feel about that personally?

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I'll tell you how I feel after you tell me how you

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So I think it's a complete loser move, but I think it's very selfish also.

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You've got teams that are willing to go out there and trade a boatload of prospects for
you and give up a lot of talent to go get you in hopes of bringing a championship to their

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city.

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And the fact that you're thinking about yourself before you're thinking

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a potential team that you'd be going to and I get it.

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It's a cutthroat business.

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The business side works both ways.

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You could be ripped from your team like Joey Loperfito out of nowhere and have your whole
life completely uprooted without even knowing it.

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And I get it.

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He's looking out for himself.

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He also, you know, doesn't want to pitch in October, have an arm injury and then not have
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So I can understand, you

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where he's coming from and kind of the disappointment from the White Sox front office and
fans for not being able to get anything for him because he's not going to sign back with

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them at the end of the season or in the off season.

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So, I think that it's pretty interesting.

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I think it's kind of like a Josh Hader move where he said when he was

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the Padres that he wasn't going to pitch in a non -safe situation or he wasn't going to go
two innings.

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He was only going to pitch in certain situations and it was only going to be one inning
and he wouldn't pitch after that because the Brewers, when he was with the Brewers, held

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that against him during arbitration and they really screwed him out of some money there
using that argument against him.

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So I think that that's part of the reason why Garrett Crochet didn't

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you know, really want to go to a team without having that security.

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And like I said, I get it.

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It's a business and the business side works both ways.

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You know, teams can be cruel to their players and, manipulate their service time and then
go fight them in arbitration.

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And this is kind of his way of fighting back.

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So that's kind of how I see

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I definitely agree that there are two different sides to this because we know that, know,
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He's already gone through that whole process and that process sucks.

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It is not fun.

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But then also too, I mean, we saw guys like Matt Harvey.

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Matt Harvey basically gave his whole arm for the city of New York on the Mets playoff run
to the World Series in 2015.

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That didn't pay off for him because that basically killed his

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But we saw somebody like C .C.

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Sabathia give his whole body for the Brewers in I think 2008 and Sabathia just shoved four
of them all the way to the NLCS.

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But I mean, he ended up staying healthy after that.

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He got a nice bag from the Yankees and whatnot.

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I thought that that when Crochet said that, I thought that that had a big market team's
name all over it.

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that wanted to extend a guy like the Dodgers or the Red Sox or maybe the Yankees or maybe
the Braves because Alex Anthopoulos loves to extend young guys and he's young.

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So I thought that that move could happen, but I'm sure that the asking price for him was
just astronomical.

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I'm sure that it was unreal because we saw the return from Trevor Rogers.

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We saw the return from Yusei Kikuchi.

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So it's just I'm there's a reason that this overall was a very mediocre deadline when it
came to pitching especially Because the asking price for starting pitching Was just unreal

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like I know people get so attached to prospects but prospects are prospects until they
become superstars and Rarely do they become superstars?

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So to me it's just it's one of those things when I started seeing the returns for some of
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middle of the rotation to back half of the rotation.

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I was like, man, there's just no point in going to get a starter.

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Like you're better off throwing some guy from AAA that has a good shot to make it in the
rotation than going to trade off two or three prospects.

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So it was really interesting.

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But I just wonder too, Joe, do you think that Crochet is mad at the White Sox for even
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Because he sure seems like a guy that's mad that he plays for them and it's like it's
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also may have screwed the club by saying that too Because they're probably not gonna get
the same return now, you know what I mean?

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So it's almost like well if you're gonna screw me I'm gonna screw you back So it was just
one of those things that I was like man, man I think this he actually may have done, you

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know done this intentionally and said it intentionally

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Yeah, I mean, I don't know what that's got to do for like the clubhouse culture in there.

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I heard that it's horrible right now in the lights off organization.

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They're on like the franchise record losing streak right now.

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And so I can only imagine I can I can only imagine that they haven't won a game since the
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So I think that I think that it's, you

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It's got to be very toxic there and I still can't believe that they didn't trade away Luis
Robert Jr.

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I know that he's not having the best year ever.

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He's been struggling offensively and I'm sure that they still wanted that.

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They were probably dangling him out there if they were like he was still that 2021 Luis
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where he was a perennial MVP candidate.

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But he's just not that guy this year and they were probably

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you know, valuing him like he was, 2021 Luis Robert, Robert Jr.

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and I just, I think they're a horrible franchise.

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mean, they had one good year.

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and they just, I guess they put all the chips in and now they have no player development,
honestly.

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And they're just a mess of a franchise.

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I don't, don't really know what that front office was thinking.

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And like you said, Garret Crochet pretty much screwed them out of, you know, a big haul at
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So, yeah, I mean, just another organization that just doesn't know what they're doing.

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It's gotta be the Colorado Rockies.

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I mean, they did nothing.

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They are horrible and they did nothing.

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I'm pretty sure they have like one of the worst ranked farm systems and they just sat on
their hands.

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They had a couple guys

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Qualicom Quantro that could have been dealt at the deadline who's actually got better
numbers at course field than he does outside of course field.

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I don't get that either, but that's neither here nor there, but they did nothing.

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The Tigers were also a mess.

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They I'm pretty sure panicked at the buzzer and just traded Flaherty for

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the best available offer.

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But at the time, at the point of the deadline, there was really only one team bidding left
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So it was really just the Dodgers bidding against themselves.

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And they obviously didn't end up giving up near as much as the halls for Tanner Scott and
Rogers and Kikuchi.

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I think they overplayed their hand and I think they waited too long to deal him and I've
heard multiple people close to the tiger's organization say that they are just so fed up

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with the front office and their lack of ability to make this trade deadline, which was a
sellers, A seller's deadline Make it into a mech deadline.

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I mean You know what the astros gave up for kakuchi They were in they were in on flirty
for the longest time up until that kakuchi trade

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And the fact that the Astros felt like they needed to get Kikuchi the day before the
deadline, and that was their offer, just makes me think what they were offering for

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Flaherty if they were in serious talks.

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Like if that was, I'm sure the Tigers fans would have much rather had the deal that the
Astros gave for Kikuchi for Flaherty than what the Dodgers ended up giving them.

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And I know that the GMs and front offices value prospects differently.

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just based on the way that they analyze and project numbers and they all have their own
models and systems that they use.

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But I've got to imagine that the upside on the players that the Astros gave up are going
to be higher than the two that the Dodgers gave up.

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I just got to imagine.

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Agree.

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Well Joe, there's a couple other teams that I feel like had a really good deadline that we
haven't mentioned so far.

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The first one is the Royals.

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The Royals went out and got Paul DeYoung who basically swapped dugouts because he was with
the White Sox.

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They also got Michael Lorenzen who is going to be an innings eater for them and I thought
that was a pretty good pickup for them.

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But the key haul for them was they got Lucas Ersig.

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If you've never seen Lucas Ercig pitch, he is must watch TV.

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This guy throws hard.

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He's got a hard slider.

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He's got really good stuff and I think he's going to excel on a team like Kansas City.

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He was lights out in Oakland for the most part.

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He is a big power arm and they their bullpen needed help and they went and got it.

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So shout out to the Royals.

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I love to see them doing well.

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Another team that I actually felt like had a good deadline was the D -backs.

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The D -backs went and got Dylan Floro and AJ Puck to add to their bullpen, who are both
great arms for their bullpen.

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And then they went and picked up Josh Bell too, just as kind of reassurance with Christian
Walker having some issues.

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So those were both really good moves for those teams.

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I don't really know what in the world the Cubs are doing.

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trading Christopher Morel and they're getting Esau Paredes back.

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The Cubs are not competitive, Cubs suck.

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Their offense is atrocious.

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We had the Guardians go get Lane Thomas.

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I really liked that move for the Braves.

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I wish they would have done that because they need some speed.

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The Guardians already run pretty well for the most part and they just added to it getting
Lane Thomas.

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Now let's see who else I got

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The Phillies actually had a decent deadline too.

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They got Carlos Estevez for their bullpen.

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That's a good armor going there.

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And then they got Austin Hayes from the Orioles, which was a very interesting swap as
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And then they got rid of some dead weight out in their bullpen.

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So more of addition by subtraction.

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The Mets actually had a decent trade deadline as well.

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They went out and got an innings eater in Paul Blackburn from the Oakland A's and they
went out and got Jesse Winker.

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To fill an outfield spot, which I that was another move that I thought the Braves could
have made because he's a rental He's very cheap, but they didn't and now he's placed for

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the Mets The Mets also got Ryan Stanek, which I thought was a good move before he played
against the Braves and he gave up two home runs to the Braves So that was great for the

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Braves and not so much for the Mets That was great one more move Joe that I want to talk
about real quick because we were talking about the Orioles and their

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their player development.

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I'm not sure which deal it was, but Christian Pache came to the Orioles from the Phillies.

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So it must have been the Austin Hayes deal.

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For those of you who don't know, Christian Pache was the Braves top prospect at one time.

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He is still very young.

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I think he's in his early to mid 20s.

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He came up in 2020 during the COVID season.

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the Braves organization thought that Christian Pache was going to be the next Andrew
Jones.

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It did not turn out that way.

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He has had his he's had some real struggles at the plate.

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He couldn't hit the broadside of a barn for a long time.

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But let me tell you something Joe, if Christian Pache goes to the Orioles and gets with
the right guys in their player development system

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and just learns how to swing a bat and be good at it, Joe Christian Pache could be an all
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He has a great glove.

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He's got decent speed.

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He's got all the tools, all the tools are there, but man, he just cannot hit.

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So I'm interested to see, for one, if they even keep him around or maybe they DFA him.

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They may have already DFA'd him.

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I don't know, I haven't looked.

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But that is one guy that I hope makes it.

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is a great quality human.

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So we'll see.

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But it's just one of those things that was kind of coming to mind.

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I was like, okay, well maybe if he gets with the right guys over there, they can figure
out his swing.

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Maybe he has to go through a JD Martinez type life cycle in the big leagues.

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But the talent is there.

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But he's definitely going to have to make some kind of swing adjustment to make it in the
big leagues.

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Do you want to talk about any more winners, Joe?

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Are you ready to move on with the winners?

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Because the only thing we'll little bit about is the winners

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Chisholm.

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I think, you know, they didn't add as much as a lot of their fans would have liked, but I
think that his addition is going to bring a spark into their ball club.

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It already has.

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They just got through sweeping the Phillies and he is the first Yankees player to make his
debut and hit four home runs and it was like two games.

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Now granted, one of them was off of a position player,

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I mean, he's really been a boost to them already and the three games that he's been with
them.

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So I mean, I think that, you know, he brings an aura to the team that they didn't have
before.

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And I think that he's going to be a great Yankee, especially with that, that smooth left
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I think that he's going to probably hit a little bit, hit for a little bit more power than
we're used to seeing him hit for.

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So I think that was a good trade for them as well.

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I agree.

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I think that was a wonderful trade for them, especially if he's probably going to hit, I
think honestly, I think you should hit lead off.

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But overall, the Yankees didn't really have a great trade deadline because they didn't do
anything else to really help the rest of their lineup.

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Well, like I mentioned, they were in on Jack Flaherty, but they were knocked out due to
medical concerns, according to people close to the situation.

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that was their guy that they were going after and they didn't acquire him because as I
mentioned, they were concerned with Flaherty's medical history.

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Yup.

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Joe, I know that...

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I'm just laughing, sorry.

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Tell me how you feel about what the Astros did and then I'll tell you how I feel about
what the Braves did.

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Okay, so I've gone back and forth on how I feel about what the Astros did.

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I hated it at first because of the not the prospects.

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It's really not about the prospects.

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I think the Joey Lopifito will probably be the best player out of that trade.

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I'm not too high on Jake Bloss.

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A lot of people keep saying that it's Jake Bloss and people are that the Astros are going
to regret letting go

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and all of his starts that he had this year, and I know that he just got drafted last year
and he's not Paul schemes, but every start that he had, he hit a wall where after three

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innings, his fastball velocity was dipping and he already had an arm injury.

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He was dealing with an arm injury after his first start.

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I don't, I don't see the upside that a lot of people do.

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I know that he progressed really, really fast.

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into the Astro system and then obviously to the Major League roster.

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But I think that Joey Lopofito has the potential to be a Joey Gallo type, someone that has
real raw power.

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I honestly believe that he's just a rookie and he can cut down on the swing and miss.

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Everybody talks about his strikeout numbers.

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He had almost a 40 % strikeout percentage.

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But I like they're acting like he's a fifth year veteran in the league.

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This is his rookie year.

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He has, think.

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Under a hundred at bats, if not just over a hundred at bats at the major league level, he
has plenty of time to go out there and make an adjustment to his swing.

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I mean, like I said, he's a rookie.

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so, and he already showed so much potential.

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You know, coming up in clutch situations and being a very good defender.

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So I think that he is going to be the real, the real piece of the Astros Miss.

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Will Wagner, I know this person on Twitter.

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He loved Will Wagner and some of his batted ball data was like, you're putting him up
there with some really, you know, top prospects and the minors and then, you know, some

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major leaguers that

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you know, the best of the best like Rafael Devers, Juan Soto, you're on Alvarez type of
batted ball data.

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But his problem was that he sucks at defense and he doesn't lift the ball.

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So while he has this really good batted ball data, he's not hitting for very much power
because his launch angle just isn't there.

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But if the Blue Jays are able to, you know, make that adjustment to a swing and their
player development, then he could be somebody that's a real, you know, power threat.

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But I'm not really concerned about losing him.

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He was kind of blocked due to his lack of ability to play defense.

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And if he was playing defense, he would be a second baseman, obviously with Jose Altuve,
signing a five -year extension at the beginning of the year, there was really no place for

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him.

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So I'm not really mad about that.

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But the reason that I was hung up on this trade was because we gave

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a lot of team control on these players for someone with two months of control and someone
that we're probably not going to extend after the season or possibly in the next two

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months.

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And I thought that at the time, you know, this hall could have gotten a throw in and
either the bullpen, which I thought that we still needed to add.

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The Azores would go on to add Caleb Ferguson.

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from the Yankees who hasn't been pitching well, they're hoping that they can pull a Taylor
Scott and fix him.

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But I think that Diastro, Sal Cucchi, and a higher or a brighter light than most, people
do.

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And I think that they really took a hard look at the underlying numbers

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thought that there was something there that most teams weren't seeing.

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think that they got their guy.

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I think that they see him as a, thought at the time that they saw him as a three starter.

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And that's why they paid such a high price for him.

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And that's exactly what Dana Brown actually came out and said today on the flagship
station for the Astros is that they see Kikuchi slotting in as the number three starter

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for the Houston Astros.

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So he's somebody that they believe will play a big role in their postseason run.

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Which I find very interesting because a lot of people kept saying that, when Verlanger
gets back or when Garcia gets back, he's just going to be the fifth starter and he's not

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going really factor into the postseason very much.

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He'll probably go to the bullpen.

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But people forget that Hunter Brown and René Blanco are already at an inning count that
they've never seen before in their career, both of them.

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This is Renell Blanco's first year as a starter and he's already hit his maximum innings
that he's ever thrown in professional baseball.

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And Hunter Brown is a third year starter at this point and he's already getting close to
where his maximum innings pitched is at.

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And you've kind of seen the fatigue set in for both of them.

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They have both

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had very good starts the last few times out.

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Renell Blocko is three and four in his last couple starts, and he hasn't been pitching
well.

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And I think that has to do with fatigue.

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And adding Kakuchi gives them another day of rest, especially when Verlander comes back.

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They'll have a six -man rotation, and they'll be able to give each guy an extra day of
rest.

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And then when you look at Hunter Brown, I'm just going to say it.

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He hasn't pitched well against a good team.

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Like he had this start against the Pirates last night and he pitched well.

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He did pitch well.

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I will say that the defense did not help him and himself included on the defensive side.

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He had a misplay, but he ended up giving up five runs.

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I think a couple of those were unearned, but I have to go look back and look at the box
score because like I said, the defense didn't help him out.

407
00:35:03,419 --> 00:35:06,080
But if you look at the teams that he's pitched against,

408
00:35:06,426 --> 00:35:10,497
Like they're like the A's twice, the Angels twice.

409
00:35:11,838 --> 00:35:19,420
and then just not really good teams, which are teams that the Astros have been playing
while they've gotten hot and they've gotten back into this race.

410
00:35:20,941 --> 00:35:32,404
and so I think that they see something in the Kikuchi that they believe that they can just
go in there and fix, whether it's his pitch usage, or something mechanical.

411
00:35:32,516 --> 00:35:44,575
I think it has more to do with usage and location of his pitches that they believe that
they can go in there and tweak because the underlying numbers for Kikuchi aren't as bad as

412
00:35:44,575 --> 00:35:54,551
a lot of people see when they actually take a look at his more forward -facing numbers and
more like casual numbers.

413
00:35:56,093 --> 00:36:00,175
But Chandler Roe mentioned this the other day or actually today.

414
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,703
giving an interview to the Astros flagship station.

415
00:36:05,703 --> 00:36:06,133
Damn it.

416
00:36:06,133 --> 00:36:07,384
I can't speak.

417
00:36:07,845 --> 00:36:18,532
He said that, you know, part of the reason that Kikuchi could have such an inflated ERA is
because he was coming out of ball games with runners left on base and the Blue Jays had

418
00:36:18,532 --> 00:36:20,934
one of the worst bullpens in all of baseball.

419
00:36:20,934 --> 00:36:23,796
I think they had the worst bullpen in all of baseball.

420
00:36:23,796 --> 00:36:29,948
So if Kikuchi is coming out of these games and these Blue Jays relievers are coming in in
these high pressure situations.

421
00:36:29,948 --> 00:36:32,088
I know there's bullpen in baseball.

422
00:36:32,608 --> 00:36:44,008
It's easy to assume that there were a lot of inherited runner scoring from those
relievers, which could inflate Kikuchi's numbers.

423
00:36:44,008 --> 00:36:45,308
Now, I'm not sure that's the case.

424
00:36:45,308 --> 00:36:52,908
He said that he would look into that, but I'm sure that that might have something to do
with the reason Kikuchi's numbers are a little bit inflated.

425
00:36:52,908 --> 00:36:56,668
He had a really good first seven starts to the season.

426
00:36:56,668 --> 00:36:59,356
I think he had like a 2 .19 ERA.

427
00:36:59,356 --> 00:37:06,016
So if the Astros can just unlock that, figure out how to adjust his usage, I think that
he'll be fine.

428
00:37:06,356 --> 00:37:07,976
I really do.

429
00:37:07,976 --> 00:37:11,216
His baseball savant page looks pretty good.

430
00:37:11,616 --> 00:37:14,796
He's got a 91 percentile extension.

431
00:37:14,796 --> 00:37:20,516
He's got a great K rate and a great whiff rate, and he does not walk a lot of batters.

432
00:37:20,516 --> 00:37:23,016
And he can also get the up there and V -Lo.

433
00:37:23,016 --> 00:37:26,556
He throws hard, so he sits.

434
00:37:26,972 --> 00:37:30,612
95 and that can get it up there to 98, 97.

435
00:37:30,612 --> 00:37:38,872
So I'm hoping that they can just figure out how to unlock, you know, that one thing that
he's been missing for the last few weeks.

436
00:37:39,272 --> 00:37:45,572
And I'm hoping that they can really, you know, turn his season around for the betterment
of the Astros.

437
00:37:45,572 --> 00:37:47,752
And then the Caleb Ferguson trade.

438
00:37:48,272 --> 00:37:51,732
Like I said earlier, I think that they're going to try to pull Taylor Scott.

439
00:37:51,732 --> 00:37:56,604
His numbers were horrible with the Yankees this year, but historically he

440
00:37:56,604 --> 00:37:59,064
He had pitched pretty well for the Dodgers.

441
00:37:59,064 --> 00:38:03,924
That's who he'd been with before joining the Yankees this year.

442
00:38:03,924 --> 00:38:06,004
But he'd been really bad this year.

443
00:38:06,004 --> 00:38:08,224
He has like a five something ERA.

444
00:38:08,224 --> 00:38:17,404
I can't find it right now, but he's a 5 .13 ERA and we really didn't give up much for him.

445
00:38:17,484 --> 00:38:26,150
We just gave up one prospect and $750 ,000 of international bonus pool money.

446
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:27,261
So I'm not too mad about that.

447
00:38:27,261 --> 00:38:30,743
they can turn his season around too, I think that he'll be a real weapon.

448
00:38:31,104 --> 00:38:46,214
And they needed another arm in the bullpen because they just, can't keep relying on Brian
Abreu, Josh Hader and Ryan Presley because as we saw Monday, they once again melted down.

449
00:38:48,076 --> 00:38:48,980
Ryan.

450
00:38:48,980 --> 00:38:58,006
Brian O 'Brien you pitched really well and then Ryan Presley came in gave up a leadoff
double ended up giving up the tying run and then Josh Josh Hader Again, I'm gonna keep

451
00:38:58,006 --> 00:39:07,973
saying it has a home run problem He gave up another home run home to Michael a Taylor
someone who had like two or three home runs on the season before facing Josh Hader and the

452
00:39:07,973 --> 00:39:17,710
ninth on Monday and I was actually at that game I saw that coming from mile away as soon
as Presley gave up the tying run

453
00:39:17,788 --> 00:39:19,928
I was really frustrating to watch.

454
00:39:19,928 --> 00:39:21,588
saw Libby Dunn's boyfriend pitch.

455
00:39:21,588 --> 00:39:22,608
That was pretty cool.

456
00:39:22,608 --> 00:39:25,088
There was a really good crowd out there on Monday.

457
00:39:26,108 --> 00:39:27,748
He wasn't all that impressive.

458
00:39:27,748 --> 00:39:29,268
I'm not going to lie.

459
00:39:29,268 --> 00:39:31,028
He was okay.

460
00:39:31,028 --> 00:39:32,688
He was just okay.

461
00:39:33,068 --> 00:39:37,908
But that was just like, I'm hoping that they can turn Caleb Ferguson into something.

462
00:39:37,908 --> 00:39:43,698
He's another, you know, he sits like 93 and he's a lefty.

463
00:39:43,698 --> 00:39:46,928
So I'll be interested to see how they utilize him.

464
00:39:47,536 --> 00:39:48,459
But I

465
00:39:51,228 --> 00:40:04,108
I had been saying that they didn't need a bat and I'm not gonna lie, I was kind of
disappointed when they didn't get Yandy Diaz from the raise, even though I had been saying

466
00:40:04,108 --> 00:40:05,848
they didn't need a bat.

467
00:40:06,248 --> 00:40:12,588
Their offense has been struggling as of late, they're 3 and 6 in their last 9 games.

468
00:40:12,608 --> 00:40:20,608
They're currently winning 5 to 4 against the Pirates in the top of the 9th.

469
00:40:21,936 --> 00:40:30,098
Their offense hasn't been great and I think that they really did need out of hat now, now
that I look back at it.

470
00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:36,300
There's still a mystery question mark surrounding Kyle Tucker.

471
00:40:36,820 --> 00:40:38,501
We don't know what his timeline is like.

472
00:40:38,501 --> 00:40:41,642
He's still not really doing very much baseball activity.

473
00:40:41,982 --> 00:40:45,303
We did get updates on Justin Verlander and Luis Garcia.

474
00:40:45,303 --> 00:40:49,364
They both threw live bullpens on Tuesday.

475
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:55,893
And they said that they both felt great after and they're just waiting for, you know,
their recovery to see how they feel.

476
00:40:55,893 --> 00:40:58,165
then they'll probably go make a rehab start.

477
00:40:58,165 --> 00:41:02,496
So I think that the Astros are going to get some real reinforcements in the rotation
there.

478
00:41:03,957 --> 00:41:07,279
but yeah, I think that the offense needed a real boost with the bat.

479
00:41:07,279 --> 00:41:15,523
they haven't been playing well offensively, after ever since that Alex Bergman walkoff,
they just haven't been playing good offensively, which is crazy because that was probably

480
00:41:15,523 --> 00:41:17,264
the highest moment of the season.

481
00:41:17,725 --> 00:41:18,876
they've now gone.

482
00:41:18,876 --> 00:41:23,720
to a pretty low point with the trade deadline passing and not getting a bat.

483
00:41:25,423 --> 00:41:27,164
But I just want to say one thing, man.

484
00:41:27,164 --> 00:41:34,171
mean, so the Astros gave up Jake Ballas, who was their number two prospect.

485
00:41:34,212 --> 00:41:41,899
They gave up Joey Loprofito, who I think was ranked 15th, and then Will Wagner, who was
ranked 22nd in there.

486
00:41:43,736 --> 00:41:46,997
And their farm system and those numbers are probably wrong other than Jake boss.

487
00:41:46,997 --> 00:41:58,800
I know he was for sure the number two prospect But they were they're addressing a need
that they quite frankly could have answered in the offseason There were plenty of starting

488
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:08,913
pitchers available in the offseason that could have given the Astros Some depth some
rotation depth and they didn't do it And this is the second offseason in a row where they

489
00:42:08,913 --> 00:42:11,684
did not do anything that they needed to

490
00:42:12,576 --> 00:42:25,480
and I think that you know the frustration with this front office all comes back to Jim
Crane and being a stubborn asshole and Telling James click to go f himself And I just I'm

491
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:36,163
I'm still very frustrated with the whole the whole situation I'm gonna keep saying I know
that I've had these rants before on the podcast, but he was a World Series winning general

492
00:42:36,163 --> 00:42:41,964
manager he fleeced team after team making trades to build the

493
00:42:41,968 --> 00:42:45,549
best bullpen in postseason history.

494
00:42:45,549 --> 00:42:54,451
He's got Yiner Diaz who is currently leading the league in batting average for catchers
and who has been on a heater as of late.

495
00:42:55,191 --> 00:42:57,151
Fomaila Schraw.

496
00:42:57,292 --> 00:43:03,673
and he also got Phil Maitan for that who was again huge in the Astros bullpen.

497
00:43:04,393 --> 00:43:05,484
I don't understand.

498
00:43:05,484 --> 00:43:10,155
I mean, I do understand it's because Dusty Baker is also a stubborn asshole.

499
00:43:11,195 --> 00:43:11,938
and

500
00:43:11,938 --> 00:43:25,720
He didn't like James Click and Dusty Baker had the ear of Jim Crane and Jim Crane did
whatever he thought Dusty Baker would like as well as Jeff Bagwell and Reggie Jackson.

501
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:33,386
And this all has to stem from Jim Crane's distrust from the science stealing scandal.

502
00:43:33,386 --> 00:43:34,407
I get it.

503
00:43:34,407 --> 00:43:37,110
But James Click knew what the hell he was doing.

504
00:43:37,110 --> 00:43:39,551
He knew how to operate a front office

505
00:43:40,012 --> 00:43:47,235
You just have two trade deadlines in a row where you give up some top end talent in a farm
system that is not very good.

506
00:43:47,235 --> 00:43:54,718
When you look back at the Justin Verlander trade, again, that is something they could have
addressed in the prior off season by just signing him.

507
00:43:54,718 --> 00:44:03,452
If they had just signed him, they would still have Drew Gilbert, who was their number one
prospect at the time, and Ryan Clifford, who was, think, at the time, their number three

508
00:44:03,452 --> 00:44:05,102
or five prospect.

509
00:44:05,123 --> 00:44:08,870
And they have now traded in two deadlines.

510
00:44:08,870 --> 00:44:12,681
They're number one, they're three and they're five prospect.

511
00:44:12,822 --> 00:44:15,033
And that frustrates the hell out of me.

512
00:44:15,033 --> 00:44:29,249
I just, that's because that's not a way to operate a front office, especially when you
could have addressed the needs at the beginning of the season in free agency.

513
00:44:29,249 --> 00:44:35,441
If Jim Crane would have just opened his wallet like he did for Josh Hader, who I think is
a horrible contract.

514
00:44:35,441 --> 00:44:36,401
Again, I'm going to say it.

515
00:44:36,401 --> 00:44:37,916
I was happy at the time.

516
00:44:37,916 --> 00:44:41,116
But $95 million is a lot for one player.

517
00:44:41,396 --> 00:44:44,396
And I just, I still don't understand it.

518
00:44:44,396 --> 00:44:47,216
I don't understand the way that Dana Brown has been operating.

519
00:44:47,216 --> 00:44:49,256
I think that he's got a great eye for talent.

520
00:44:49,256 --> 00:44:59,156
I really do, but I think that he might be a little in over his head when it comes to
negotiating trades and contracts in the off season, because I just, cannot understand the

521
00:44:59,156 --> 00:45:00,756
way that the front office has been operating.

522
00:45:00,756 --> 00:45:03,256
And I get that he is not the only one making decisions.

523
00:45:03,256 --> 00:45:06,616
He alluded to that earlier in his press conference saying

524
00:45:06,828 --> 00:45:10,739
we as a whole front office are making these decisions as a team.

525
00:45:10,739 --> 00:45:21,812
And that also frustrates the hell out of me because if he's not the one, you know, flying
the ship, then like all of this is wasted breath because he's not the one actually making

526
00:45:21,812 --> 00:45:22,492
these moves.

527
00:45:22,492 --> 00:45:27,984
It's Jeff Bagwell, Craig Bisio and Mr.

528
00:45:27,984 --> 00:45:30,915
October, Reggie Jackson making these moves.

529
00:45:30,915 --> 00:45:35,176
And that really frustrates me because if they're not going to let him operate,

530
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:41,904
Like honestly, I just, at this point it's more frustrating because I don't know where to
point my frustration.

531
00:45:41,904 --> 00:45:47,027
I don't know what moves are Dana Brown moves and I don't know what moves are being led by
those three.

532
00:45:47,547 --> 00:45:54,772
and that's probably the most frustrating part because I want to be able to place my blame
somewhere so that I know who's head to call for when it doesn't go wrong.

533
00:45:54,772 --> 00:46:01,287
But at this point, I just have to blame everybody and Dana Brown is getting the most of it
because he's the head.

534
00:46:01,287 --> 00:46:02,878
He's the face that we see.

535
00:46:02,878 --> 00:46:05,879
So that's just, that's been really frustrating to me.

536
00:46:06,864 --> 00:46:13,268
Dana Brown, like there are some moves that I can see where Dana Brown definitely had more
input than not.

537
00:46:13,268 --> 00:46:18,851
Like the Taylor Scott trade was definitely his move.

538
00:46:18,851 --> 00:46:24,013
The Josh Hader acquisition, I know for a fact was not his move.

539
00:46:24,654 --> 00:46:30,817
But it's interesting to see how these last two trade deadlines have played out.

540
00:46:31,378 --> 00:46:36,340
The Justin Verlander trade also, I do not think was

541
00:46:36,376 --> 00:46:37,547
a Dana Brown move.

542
00:46:37,547 --> 00:46:39,297
think that was a Jim Crane move.

543
00:46:39,297 --> 00:46:41,498
He wanted his golfing partner back.

544
00:46:41,758 --> 00:46:44,249
So it's been interesting to see how this front office is operated.

545
00:46:44,249 --> 00:46:45,990
I'm going to keep screaming it from the rooftop.

546
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:57,445
think that this is all stemming back from James Click being outed in place of a manager
who literally only ended up coaching one more season.

547
00:46:57,445 --> 00:47:04,668
You gave up your future, you know, when it comes to talent evaluation and potential
trades.

548
00:47:04,668 --> 00:47:16,288
for a manager that refused to not hit two of the worst qualified hitters in the league in
2023, which I think ultimately led to our downfall.

549
00:47:16,288 --> 00:47:18,218
But that's another story for another day.

550
00:47:18,218 --> 00:47:20,328
Kirby, let's get into the Braves.

551
00:47:20,328 --> 00:47:22,644
How did you feel about their trade deadline?

552
00:47:23,222 --> 00:47:32,105
Well, Joe, I'm glad that overall you see both sides of the Astros trade because some
people are calling for Dana Brown's head when in fact, if you look at a lot of the

553
00:47:32,105 --> 00:47:36,526
underlying stats on Kikuchi, I don't feel like it was a horrible trade.

554
00:47:37,586 --> 00:47:45,248
The what you were talking about with the bullpen issues for the Blue Jays is possibly why
his ERA is inflated.

555
00:47:45,248 --> 00:47:50,818
I thought that was a very interesting point because his FIP is actually like almost a
whole run lower.

556
00:47:50,818 --> 00:47:53,703
than as he are right, which is really good news for the Astros.

557
00:47:53,703 --> 00:48:00,733
The Astros also played really good defense, which is going to be huge for him as well,
because he does give up a lot of hits.

558
00:48:00,834 --> 00:48:02,757
He does have a little bit of a home run problem.

559
00:48:02,757 --> 00:48:03,328
That's OK.

560
00:48:03,328 --> 00:48:05,340
That can be solved too.

561
00:48:05,830 --> 00:48:18,607
That does worry me because he does give up a lot of homeruns to right handed hitters and I
don't know if they know this or not but we play in a stadium that is known for giving up

562
00:48:18,607 --> 00:48:21,169
ranking decom runs to right handed hitters.

563
00:48:21,169 --> 00:48:23,750
This is another thing that I just never understand.

564
00:48:23,750 --> 00:48:28,713
The Astros never pursue players that have good career numbers in MinuteMate.

565
00:48:28,713 --> 00:48:33,596
They always go for the guys that have some of the worst stats I've ever seen.

566
00:48:33,596 --> 00:48:36,876
playing at Minute Maid Park and that also frustrates me.

567
00:48:36,876 --> 00:48:42,296
But they also play 81 games or 82 games outside of Minute Maid.

568
00:48:42,296 --> 00:48:50,005
So I do see, you know, if they can manipulate the rotation to where he's not pitching at
Minute Maid, unfortunately, his first start will be in Minute Maid.

569
00:48:50,005 --> 00:48:53,416
But if they can manipulate it outside of this, then I'm going to be okay.

570
00:48:53,416 --> 00:48:55,576
I'm just hoping that he pitches well after this.

571
00:48:55,576 --> 00:49:00,666
And like you said, I think that they project him as a three starter.

572
00:49:00,666 --> 00:49:02,808
So I do not think that they gave

573
00:49:03,376 --> 00:49:04,967
too much at the end of the day.

574
00:49:04,967 --> 00:49:09,433
If that's really where they see him, then I think that they gave up what they thought was
best.

575
00:49:09,433 --> 00:49:10,683
Then I'll let you

576
00:49:12,262 --> 00:49:12,843
I agree.

577
00:49:12,843 --> 00:49:17,765
I just hope that he has a very soft landing in his first start because they play the Rays
this weekend, right?

578
00:49:18,246 --> 00:49:19,646
And then who they play?

579
00:49:22,088 --> 00:49:31,453
Hopefully since they kind of offloaded a bunch of guys then hopefully it'll be a nice soft
landing at Minute Maid for him.

580
00:49:31,793 --> 00:49:35,495
If not, be ready for more of the worst on Twitter.

581
00:49:37,176 --> 00:49:40,648
Okay, Joe, so let's talk about the Braves for a minute.

582
00:49:41,291 --> 00:49:42,834
They made one trade

583
00:49:43,484 --> 00:49:45,884
Party like it's 2021.

584
00:49:45,902 --> 00:49:47,342
Yeah, well, okay.

585
00:49:47,342 --> 00:50:00,562
Let me let me start by saying all the good and then I'll Talk about how I feel about it So
let me just say this so the Braves went and got Jorge Soler and Luke Jackson back from the

586
00:50:00,562 --> 00:50:11,722
Giants in exchange for basically nothing They gave up Sabine Sabayos who is probably like
their number 20 number 20 prospect overall He's got good bat to ball skills.

587
00:50:11,722 --> 00:50:15,462
He plays a little third base Doesn't have a lot of

588
00:50:16,348 --> 00:50:18,278
could be a, it could be a decent major leaguer.

589
00:50:18,278 --> 00:50:21,198
I don't think he's ever going to be that great to be honest.

590
00:50:21,358 --> 00:50:30,538
and then they also gave up Tyler Matzik, who has arguably one of the best moments in
praise postseason history, for striking out the side against the Dodgers and the LCS in

591
00:50:30,538 --> 00:50:31,658
2021.

592
00:50:33,018 --> 00:50:40,558
so, thank you, Tyler Matzik, first of all, for all that you did during that postseason run
and the prior postseason run in 2020.

593
00:50:41,108 --> 00:50:45,114
so I, I, those memories will forever be ingrained in

594
00:50:45,322 --> 00:50:50,286
I hope that he is able to make it back and continue to have a successful big league
career.

595
00:50:50,286 --> 00:50:53,858
Anyway, so let me just say this, Joe.

596
00:50:53,858 --> 00:50:55,930
First of all, the Braves need a leadoff hitter.

597
00:50:55,930 --> 00:51:04,636
If you have looked at the Jorge Soler leadoff numbers, his leadoff numbers are unreal.

598
00:51:05,196 --> 00:51:12,601
Ronald Acuna went down, they tried the Jerry Kelnick experiment, and it worked quite well
up until about the last month.

599
00:51:13,878 --> 00:51:16,240
And it just went south in a hurry.

600
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,882
So they desperately needed a leadoff hitter.

601
00:51:18,882 --> 00:51:20,323
Now let me say this.

602
00:51:20,604 --> 00:51:24,807
The top five now with Soler hitting leadoff, this is what it looked like today.

603
00:51:24,807 --> 00:51:27,870
It went Jorge Soler batting first and playing right field.

604
00:51:27,870 --> 00:51:29,531
Then it went Austin Riley.

605
00:51:29,531 --> 00:51:31,053
Then it went Marcelo Zuna.

606
00:51:31,053 --> 00:51:32,414
Then it went Matt Olson.

607
00:51:32,414 --> 00:51:34,335
And then it went Travis Darnow.

608
00:51:34,476 --> 00:51:37,718
That is the best top five in Major League Baseball right now.

609
00:51:37,718 --> 00:51:42,422
I can honestly say that with Jorge Soler, especially the way he hits out of the leadoff

610
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:48,381
Because hitting lead off, his stats, I've got them right here.

611
00:51:48,803 --> 00:51:50,746
Let's see, let me scroll

612
00:51:53,070 --> 00:51:58,530
Hitting leadoff this year, Joe, he's got an 866 OPS with an OBP of 380.

613
00:51:58,530 --> 00:52:03,770
There are not many guys that hit leadoff in the big leagues that have an OBP of 380.

614
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:06,790
380 is elite.

615
00:52:06,990 --> 00:52:18,150
If they can get a 350, 360 OBP out of him hitting leadoff, they're going to win a lot of
ballgames because they need guys on in front of Austin Riley and Marcel Ozuna and Matt

616
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:22,430
Olson, who hit two home runs today, and Travis Darnoe, who hit two home runs

617
00:52:23,450 --> 00:52:26,691
So the top five automatically looks a lot better.

618
00:52:28,893 --> 00:52:35,075
A lot of people in Braves country wanted the Braves to go and get a second baseman or
another outfielder.

619
00:52:35,075 --> 00:52:36,696
That did not happen.

620
00:52:38,577 --> 00:52:46,760
Since they got Solair back, I am actually okay with them not going to get another
outfielder because in roughly two weeks they're getting Michael Harris back.

621
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,651
Michael Harris will hit sixth, seventh, eighth or ninth.

622
00:52:49,651 --> 00:52:51,342
He'll hit somewhere in there but he

623
00:52:51,444 --> 00:53:02,573
automatically sit probably Eddie Rosario or Ramon Lloriano or Adam Duvall, whoever, he
will probably sit one of them and that's who spot he will take and he'll be back in center

624
00:53:02,573 --> 00:53:05,605
field in his, you know, his prime position.

625
00:53:06,687 --> 00:53:13,312
And then also a lot of people were mad because they didn't go get a middle infielder to
replace Ozzy Albies.

626
00:53:13,653 --> 00:53:20,308
According to Alex Anthopoulos, he said that Ozzy Albies will be back in early September.

627
00:53:20,344 --> 00:53:23,776
For those of you who don't know, early September is five weeks from now.

628
00:53:24,037 --> 00:53:27,560
They can live with Whit Maryfield playing second base.

629
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,642
Whit Maryfield gives you good defense.

630
00:53:29,642 --> 00:53:34,765
He also gives you quality at bats and he's going to give you great speed on the bases.

631
00:53:36,207 --> 00:53:37,668
I like Whit Maryfield.

632
00:53:37,668 --> 00:53:40,010
I enjoyed watching him when he played in Kansas City.

633
00:53:40,010 --> 00:53:43,573
It didn't work out for the Phillies, but this guy is going to get regular A -Bs.

634
00:53:43,573 --> 00:53:47,096
He's going to be just fine playing second base until Ozzy gets back.

635
00:53:47,096 --> 00:53:50,368
And then he's going to be a really great depth piece on the bench.

636
00:53:51,194 --> 00:53:54,915
So like I said, a lot of people are mad that they didn't do more.

637
00:53:54,915 --> 00:54:00,236
I don't really think they needed to do more, especially with what they were going to have
to give up.

638
00:54:01,037 --> 00:54:06,838
First of all, their farm system is not the best because most of their guys that were in
the farm system are now on the big league club.

639
00:54:06,838 --> 00:54:15,621
And know, some of their top prospects being AJ Smith Schaver, Hurston Waldrub, Nacho
Alvarez, Drake Baldwin, guys like that.

640
00:54:15,661 --> 00:54:20,402
Three or four of those guys will be on the big league roster next year, more than likely.

641
00:54:20,654 --> 00:54:24,724
So there's no reason for them to give those guys up when they are a part of their future.

642
00:54:24,724 --> 00:54:25,454
are not...

643
00:54:25,454 --> 00:54:35,754
Alex Anthopoulos is not going to leverage the future for a rental or for a mid to back of
the rotation starter when they already have that.

644
00:54:36,554 --> 00:54:41,354
A lot of people were mad too because Jorge Soler has been a DH all year.

645
00:54:41,354 --> 00:54:49,038
It does not matter what his defense looks like in right field if you strike out 10 to 12
batters a game as a pitching staff.

646
00:54:49,038 --> 00:54:52,957
They have the best pitching staff in the National League.

647
00:54:52,957 --> 00:54:55,578
Probably in Major League Baseball as well.

648
00:54:55,818 --> 00:55:01,878
If not the best, they are a top two and or a top three in every single category.

649
00:55:02,118 --> 00:55:04,778
It does not matter what his defense looks like.

650
00:55:04,778 --> 00:55:06,358
Who cares?

651
00:55:06,358 --> 00:55:07,508
Let him play right field.

652
00:55:07,508 --> 00:55:08,678
He has a decent arm.

653
00:55:08,678 --> 00:55:09,778
It's not the best.

654
00:55:09,778 --> 00:55:12,538
It's, you know, it's for sure not the worst.

655
00:55:12,958 --> 00:55:18,764
When the pitching staff strikes out 12 a game, you've only got 15 more outs that that come
via

656
00:55:19,278 --> 00:55:28,561
Ball put in play And most of those are not going to the right fielder anyway Especially if
you've got a right -handed hitting team or a majority right -handed hitting team So his

657
00:55:28,561 --> 00:55:37,334
defense really doesn't matter They already said today that if they have a nice, you know
Probably if they have a nice comfortable lead in the later innings They will just sub him

658
00:55:37,334 --> 00:55:45,112
out and let Ramon Moriano play right field who was actually a very talented right right
fielder So a lot of people in Braves country were mad

659
00:55:45,112 --> 00:55:51,046
That, well that's all they did, I'm not gonna be very invested in the team now, blah blah
blah, a bunch of crap like that.

660
00:55:51,046 --> 00:55:54,247
If you don't wanna listen, if you don't wanna watch them, don't watch them.

661
00:55:54,548 --> 00:55:59,150
But this team now has a very nice top five in their lineup.

662
00:56:00,291 --> 00:56:03,683
He adds a component that they haven't had all year, which is an O .B .P.

663
00:56:03,683 --> 00:56:04,374
guy.

664
00:56:04,374 --> 00:56:06,314
They need that at the top.

665
00:56:06,975 --> 00:56:12,204
It doesn't hurt to have any more power in their order because we have seen in every single
year.

666
00:56:12,204 --> 00:56:17,198
that the team that hits more home runs wins the World Series every single time.

667
00:56:17,498 --> 00:56:22,222
Home runs win World Series, so does pitching and good defense, but mainly home runs too.

668
00:56:23,243 --> 00:56:29,568
So with that being said, he adds what they need to the lineup.

669
00:56:30,489 --> 00:56:34,553
Would I have liked for them to go out and gotten a Brandon Lau?

670
00:56:34,553 --> 00:56:36,413
Yes, that would have been fine.

671
00:56:36,794 --> 00:56:40,427
Or a Jesse Winker, Tommy Pham, Randy Arroz Arena?

672
00:56:40,427 --> 00:56:41,728
Absolutely.

673
00:56:42,078 --> 00:56:45,298
But Jorge Soler gives them what they need.

674
00:56:45,298 --> 00:56:48,998
Ozzy Albies is gonna be back in five weeks, Michael Harris is gonna be back in two weeks.

675
00:56:48,998 --> 00:56:53,808
All of a sudden, you've only got one hole in your order, and that's Orlando Arcia.

676
00:56:53,808 --> 00:56:59,698
And for those of you who haven't paid attention in the past seven to 10 games, Orlando
Arcia is hitting a lot better.

677
00:56:59,698 --> 00:57:09,218
He is not gonna be put on the bench because of his batting longer, because he's actually
hitting quite well, which is great for them because they're gonna need it.

678
00:57:09,458 --> 00:57:11,018
So overall,

679
00:57:11,458 --> 00:57:14,461
I can't really complain about this trade deadline.

680
00:57:14,521 --> 00:57:18,125
The guys in the Braves Clubhouse, they love Jorge Soler.

681
00:57:18,125 --> 00:57:19,686
They love Luke Jackson.

682
00:57:19,686 --> 00:57:21,327
They are good guys.

683
00:57:22,008 --> 00:57:26,152
Jorge Soler hit the biggest home run in Braves history.

684
00:57:26,152 --> 00:57:26,513
guess...

685
00:57:26,513 --> 00:57:30,734
Okay, okay, okay, let's pop the brakes there

686
00:57:30,734 --> 00:57:34,714
If it's not him, it's maybe David Justice, okay?

687
00:57:34,794 --> 00:57:44,494
But regardless, they love him in the clubhouse and they are going to keep him further on
into next year and the year after.

688
00:57:44,494 --> 00:57:55,414
I think after the 2025 season, I think he transitions to being the full -time DH after
Marcelo Zuna probably goes because they are going to pick up that team exercise or that

689
00:57:55,414 --> 00:57:58,634
team option that they have on him for next year.

690
00:57:59,314 --> 00:58:00,354
So,

691
00:58:00,354 --> 00:58:04,636
I think overall it was a great move especially because they didn't give up anything.

692
00:58:06,139 --> 00:58:12,524
I'm excited to see what they're going to do over the next few weeks because their schedule
coming up is not great.

693
00:58:12,785 --> 00:58:22,612
They play the Rockies a little bit, they play the Marlins, they go out, I think they play
the Giants, and then they play the Phillies shortly after that.

694
00:58:23,073 --> 00:58:26,396
So overall, I'm actually excited to see what they're going to do in the next few weeks.

695
00:58:26,396 --> 00:58:28,577
I think they can actually make up some ground.

696
00:58:29,218 --> 00:58:33,290
with the Phillies, who as of Saturday, they were nine and a half games back.

697
00:58:33,290 --> 00:58:33,932
Well, guess what?

698
00:58:33,932 --> 00:58:42,238
The Phillies are on quite the skid right now, especially after the way they played against
the Yankees, which I wish they'd the Yankees more often because the Yankees just

699
00:58:42,238 --> 00:58:44,069
absolutely curb stomped them.

700
00:58:44,530 --> 00:58:47,332
And now as of today, the Braves are only six and a half back.

701
00:58:47,332 --> 00:58:49,043
We still have two months of baseball, Joe.

702
00:58:49,043 --> 00:58:52,375
The Braves and the Phillies play seven more times.

703
00:58:52,375 --> 00:58:54,957
That division is not out of reach just yet.

704
00:58:55,748 --> 00:58:56,418
no, it's not.

705
00:58:56,418 --> 00:59:05,168
mean, we've seen the run that the Astros were able to go on making up, you know, 10 games
on the Mariners and just, yeah, and just like a month.

706
00:59:05,168 --> 00:59:08,008
So there's no telling what the Braves are going to be able to do.

707
00:59:08,008 --> 00:59:12,628
You know, I want to mention one thing about this trade deadline that I think was
absolutely crazy.

708
00:59:12,628 --> 00:59:16,988
While it was a seller's market, I believe I heard this correctly.

709
00:59:16,988 --> 00:59:20,528
There wasn't a single top 100 prospect move.

710
00:59:20,528 --> 00:59:23,808
So a lot of the teams were looking for quantity.

711
00:59:23,836 --> 00:59:26,076
over quality, in my opinion.

712
00:59:26,076 --> 00:59:29,116
don't know if that, I believe that's correct.

713
00:59:29,116 --> 00:59:34,456
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that that's what I heard, which I think is absolutely
insane.

714
00:59:34,516 --> 00:59:42,390
All things considered, because over the last couple of years, you've had trade deadlines
where top 100 prospects were flying off the shelf left and

715
00:59:43,790 --> 00:59:54,340
Did not hear that but if that is true that is absolutely wild Because there were some good
names that are moved that were moved like Connor Norby He's really talented There were

716
00:59:54,340 --> 01:00:01,276
several guys that were moved and I'm like, wow, that's that's great Let me think what

717
01:00:01,276 --> 01:00:02,296
Yeah, that's what I'm seeing.

718
01:00:02,296 --> 01:00:08,994
Zero top 100 prospects dealt at the 2024 trade deadline, which I think is crazy.

719
01:00:08,994 --> 01:00:10,175
That is nuts.

720
01:00:10,596 --> 01:00:13,818
We talked about the winners, the losers, how it affects our team.

721
01:00:13,919 --> 01:00:17,581
We talked about the teams that are best set up for the future.

722
01:00:18,683 --> 01:00:27,751
You know, overall, Joe, this trade deadline, there weren't any extremely talented, you
know, big name guys traded.

723
01:00:27,872 --> 01:00:35,328
Overall, was kind of a, let's get better pieces to add to our puzzle instead of one big
piece to add.

724
01:00:36,223 --> 01:00:39,766
There was no Trey Turner, Max Scherzer trade to LA this year.

725
01:00:40,448 --> 01:00:42,169
There was nothing like that.

726
01:00:44,792 --> 01:00:46,523
So a lot of teams got better.

727
01:00:46,523 --> 01:00:50,805
Some teams did nothing, which is going to screw them even more in the long run.

728
01:00:50,805 --> 01:00:54,727
And then you've got some teams who set themselves up for the future, like the Marlins.

729
01:00:55,608 --> 01:01:01,211
The Marlins got some good prospects back, but unfortunately for them, they don't know what
direction they're going in either.

730
01:01:01,211 --> 01:01:05,533
So more than likely, they'll be a wild card team in about four years.

731
01:01:05,573 --> 01:01:10,836
And then they'll trade those pieces off and, you know, the cycle just continues for them.

732
01:01:10,836 --> 01:01:14,898
So, I mean, it just, sucks for their fans, even though there's not many of

733
01:01:15,202 --> 01:01:19,711
but I would hate to be a fan of the Morelands.

734
01:01:22,108 --> 01:01:23,248
Yeah.

735
01:01:23,658 --> 01:01:30,088
one last thing I want to mention about the Astros, because they did release Rafael Montero
today.

736
01:01:30,868 --> 01:01:33,148
I'm just going to read out this tweet.

737
01:01:33,408 --> 01:01:35,208
I'm just going to read out this tweet.

738
01:01:35,208 --> 01:01:44,308
And this once again goes back to my disdain for Jim Crane and the, the post 2022 world
series, front office operation.

739
01:01:44,448 --> 01:01:51,900
Six days after winning the world series, Jim Crane partnered waves with GM James Click
over the next six weeks without a GM, the Astros would sign.

740
01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:57,620
Montero, Jose Abreu, and Michael Brantley, while Verlander and Uli signed elsewhere.

741
01:01:57,620 --> 01:02:02,360
Brantley played 15 games, Montero and Abreu got paid to go away.

742
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:21,058
All in all, the Astros owner spent $105 million on players who would combine for a
negative 1 .9b war or a negative 2 .7f war.

743
01:02:21,190 --> 01:02:22,689
That is just insane.

744
01:02:23,842 --> 01:02:25,166
That's nuts.

745
01:02:25,270 --> 01:02:26,613
That is nuts.

746
01:02:27,401 --> 01:02:33,645
I'm sorry, I could not get through that without laughing because that's just so
unimaginable.

747
01:02:34,686 --> 01:02:38,959
Once again, I don't think there was anything wrong with the way James Click operated.

748
01:02:38,959 --> 01:02:41,891
I just don't understand it.

749
01:02:41,891 --> 01:02:43,412
I will never understand

750
01:02:43,704 --> 01:02:52,705
You know, the whole thing with the Breyew is we could all see all of his whole stat -cast
page was going downhill every single year.

751
01:02:52,705 --> 01:02:55,007
Okay, we knew that that was going be bad.

752
01:02:55,148 --> 01:02:59,856
The Montero one, Montero had one good season and then got paid.

753
01:02:59,856 --> 01:03:01,317
I don't understand that.

754
01:03:01,317 --> 01:03:12,066
Like, James Click found a diamond in a Roth and I swear that if he had been there, he
would have just let Montero walk because all the projections showed that he was going to

755
01:03:12,066 --> 01:03:15,559
regress based off of career statistics.

756
01:03:15,559 --> 01:03:17,381
And I don't think that that's something that...

757
01:03:17,381 --> 01:03:21,806
Like, it's so frustrating because the Astros built this dynasty off of analytics.

758
01:03:21,806 --> 01:03:30,252
And once they got rid of or parted ways with James Click, they said, no, we're going to
move away from analytics, which makes no sense to me because that's exactly what Jeff Leno

759
01:03:30,252 --> 01:03:32,893
did to build this dynasty.

760
01:03:32,893 --> 01:03:38,707
And that's what James Click did to extend it to what it's been now.

761
01:03:38,707 --> 01:03:40,328
I just don't understand.

762
01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:45,752
And that's, that's another one of my Ashraf run office

763
01:03:46,659 --> 01:03:47,271
I agree.

764
01:03:47,271 --> 01:03:51,371
I'm interested to see how our team is doing from here.

765
01:03:51,634 --> 01:03:54,139
Both of our teams won today, which was very nice.

766
01:03:54,652 --> 01:04:02,834
Yes, the Actors just capped off a 5 -4 win against the Pirates and they are now back in
first place over the Mariners.

767
01:04:03,164 --> 01:04:05,084
one last thing I was going to share with you, Joe.

768
01:04:05,084 --> 01:04:06,614
So the Braves have this rookie right now.

769
01:04:06,614 --> 01:04:08,294
I don't know if you're familiar with him or not.

770
01:04:08,294 --> 01:04:10,154
His name is Spencer Schwellenbach.

771
01:04:10,154 --> 01:04:16,814
He was a shortstop in college, turned pitcher at the University of Nebraska.

772
01:04:16,814 --> 01:04:17,854
Okay.

773
01:04:17,934 --> 01:04:24,774
He has been fantastic for the Braves so far, pitching out of that fifth, basically that
fifth spot in rotation.

774
01:04:24,774 --> 01:04:26,934
He's got a 4 .06 ERA.

775
01:04:27,554 --> 01:04:29,234
He doesn't walk anybody.

776
01:04:29,234 --> 01:04:32,094
He's got several quality starts already.

777
01:04:32,558 --> 01:04:34,478
He looked good against the Padres.

778
01:04:34,478 --> 01:04:36,948
He looked good against the Mets the other day.

779
01:04:36,948 --> 01:04:38,798
He went seven innings, struck out 11.

780
01:04:38,798 --> 01:04:51,258
And did you know, that since starting pitching was such a priority for a lot of teams that
are wanting to contend for a postseason, he was the most asked about brave at the trade

781
01:04:51,258 --> 01:04:54,018
deadline, which I found very fascinating.

782
01:04:54,018 --> 01:04:57,018
So teams that called, called about Spencer Schwalombach.

783
01:04:57,018 --> 01:04:58,898
They didn't call about Max Fried.

784
01:04:58,898 --> 01:05:01,018
They didn't call about Charlie

785
01:05:01,254 --> 01:05:03,795
They didn't call about Chris Sale or Renato Lopez.

786
01:05:03,795 --> 01:05:07,186
They called about Spencer Swellenbach, which I thought was really interesting.

787
01:05:07,186 --> 01:05:11,257
It says a lot about him and this organization for drafting him.

788
01:05:11,857 --> 01:05:13,658
So shout out to Swelly.

789
01:05:13,658 --> 01:05:18,199
I hope he has a good start this weekend against the Marlins because they need it.

790
01:05:18,199 --> 01:05:27,051
They need to gain some ground, at least on the wild card, if not on the Phillies, which
nothing will make me happier, Joe, than like three weeks from now if we were talking about

791
01:05:27,051 --> 01:05:29,962
the Braves being within like two to three games of the Phillies.

792
01:05:30,254 --> 01:05:40,097
Because man, I you know as much as divisions are kind of boring they've won it six years
in a row So like I'm kind of selfish now like I gotta have that first before we go to the

793
01:05:40,097 --> 01:05:50,680
postseason So I don't know it's gonna be interesting to see and like I said they play the
Phillies in a few weeks So hopefully by that time Michael Harris will be back or very

794
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:57,182
close to it So that would be huge for them to have back as well Joe is there anything you
want to close with?

795
01:05:57,540 --> 01:06:07,000
you mentioned the Phillies collapse and the Braves coming back to win the division and it
just gives me flashbacks to 2021 all over with the Mets just crumbling after the deadline

796
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,120
and the Braves overtaking them for the division.

797
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:15,220
So I would like for that to not happen because we all both know how that ended.

798
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:19,866
So I'm praying on your wild card.

799
01:06:20,330 --> 01:06:31,690
that year in 2021 when they won the World Series first of all, they played I don't
remember if they played Padres Phillies last two series or Phillies Padres But they ended

800
01:06:31,690 --> 01:06:41,550
the they ended the Padres season in that series against them They ended the Phillies
season in that series with them and then every single series that they played after that

801
01:06:41,550 --> 01:06:44,108
they ended that team's season

802
01:06:44,108 --> 01:06:49,540
So then they ended the Brewer season, who nobody picked the Braves to beat the Brewers in
that postseason.

803
01:06:49,540 --> 01:06:52,100
And then they ended the Dodger season.

804
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:55,881
Well, and then they ended the Astro season because they won the whole damn thing.

805
01:06:56,842 --> 01:06:59,783
So to me, was just, it was a wild turn of events.

806
01:06:59,783 --> 01:07:02,814
They were the best team in baseball after August 1st.

807
01:07:02,814 --> 01:07:11,616
So I'm hoping they can turn it around again because the division is not everything, but
that is something to at least put in the ballpark, which is kind of nice.

808
01:07:11,683 --> 01:07:18,752
Because nobody wants to put wild card participator in the in the ballpark that just that's
just I mean, yes, it is a postseason run, but

809
01:07:18,752 --> 01:07:20,487
you're the Seattle Mariners.

810
01:07:20,534 --> 01:07:24,055
Yeah, or yeah, I mean, my thing is too Joe.

811
01:07:24,055 --> 01:07:25,756
I don't know how you feel about this.

812
01:07:25,756 --> 01:07:34,400
I think like nl champion rings Are just like, you know pin it pin it rings is just stupid.

813
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,640
because like They're probably champions.

814
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,214
Well, you didn't win the whole thing, you know,

815
01:07:39,214 --> 01:07:45,957
Well, but you won your league, which I do understand that, but I get what you're saying.

816
01:07:45,957 --> 01:07:55,192
You lost in the World Series, so you don't win the whole thing, but you did win your
league, which I think is still a pretty big accomplishment.

817
01:07:56,780 --> 01:07:57,590
Yeah.

818
01:07:57,831 --> 01:08:01,874
But okay, Joe, well, are we going to reconvene on Sunday?

819
01:08:01,874 --> 01:08:06,157
And we're going to go back to our regular scheduled programming.

820
01:08:06,458 --> 01:08:08,500
We'll give our business update.

821
01:08:08,500 --> 01:08:13,483
We'll see how some of these teams are doing since the deadline has ended.

822
01:08:13,724 --> 01:08:16,485
And we'll get you guys caught back up on all of that.

823
01:08:16,526 --> 01:08:20,949
But thanks again, everybody, for listening to our trade deadline special.

824
01:08:21,470 --> 01:08:25,213
Remember to like, share and subscribe to our YouTube channel.

825
01:08:25,213 --> 01:08:26,934
That really helps the show.

826
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:30,531
Our views have been going up, Joe, and I am happy to see that.

827
01:08:32,092 --> 01:08:33,052
Yeah, we are up.

828
01:08:33,052 --> 01:08:37,614
And then also too, guys, remember that we are also now on Apple Podcasts as well.

829
01:08:37,614 --> 01:08:44,096
So whether you're going to work or going to the gym, there is always a time where you can
listen to us talk about ball.

830
01:08:45,037 --> 01:08:47,877
And I think that's it, Joe.

831
01:08:47,978 --> 01:08:48,752
So.

832
01:08:48,752 --> 01:08:50,093
I just want to give an update.

833
01:08:50,093 --> 01:08:52,574
Our Instagram at has changed.

834
01:08:52,574 --> 01:08:59,737
It is no longer the underscore throwing underscore partners underscore pod.

835
01:08:59,837 --> 01:09:01,578
It is now shortened.

836
01:09:01,578 --> 01:09:03,278
I shortened it earlier.

837
01:09:03,278 --> 01:09:06,009
is TP podcast underscore.

838
01:09:06,009 --> 01:09:06,660
So

839
01:09:07,688 --> 01:09:08,269
got it got it.

840
01:09:08,269 --> 01:09:09,199
Okay.

841
01:09:09,259 --> 01:09:10,619
Sounds great.

842
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,861
Fair enough Fair enough to me.

843
01:09:15,722 --> 01:09:17,103
Definitely I agree.

844
01:09:17,103 --> 01:09:18,203
I agree.

845
01:09:18,303 --> 01:09:19,544
so thanks again everybody.

846
01:09:19,544 --> 01:09:24,086
We really appreciate it Have a wonderful rest of your week and we will see you on Sunday