Indexed Podcast

Today we’re joined by Andrew Hong, Co-Founder of Herd, Advisor at Archetype, and former Headmaster at Dune.
In this episode, we discuss:
  • Leaving Dune to start Herd
  • Composability in the age of AI agents
  • Why crypto due diligence doesn’t scale
  • Morpho vault complexity & operational risk
  • AI agents for contract research
  • Two-sided marketplace: protocols & institutions
  • Hooks, adapters, and modular vault design
  • Wallet policies & multisig risk management
  • Institutional DeFi integrations (Coinbase, BlackRock)
  • Agent-to-agent payments: hype vs reality
  • Why crypto needs “boring” infra
  • AI replacing crypto analysts?
And much more—enjoy!
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Timestamps:
(00:00) Introduction
(01:08) Leaving Dune, starting Herd
(03:16) Agent research inbox vision
(05:14) Institutional crypto adoption challenges
(08:16) From aggregation to operations
(10:21) Protocols vs institutions marketplace
(14:11) Mapping contracts & transactions
(21:48) One-shot integrations with AI
(24:32) Vault adapters & hidden permissions
(30:49) Security vs operational risk
(34:30) Uniswap hooks & modular design
(41:07) Agent payments skepticism
(53:12) AI replacing analysts?
(57:50) Outro
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Wizard relations @DuneAnalytics. The data must flow.
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