1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,720 Hey everybody, it's a Tuesday night. I'm at the Harrison Theater on 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,280 Corbet Street, the Poduty Live Podcast Theater. Special guest Jeff 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,560 Dwaskin, #Roundup Classic Conversations. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,680 I've got just one question for you, Jeff. You know what 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,360 time it is? Yeah, it's time we stop pretending we don't know what time it 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,840 is. What time is it? 7 00:00:32,060 --> 00:00:35,260 Oh, it's time for Poduty and the News. Poduty and the News. 8 00:00:41,180 --> 00:00:43,980 The only live news podcast about 9 00:00:44,300 --> 00:00:46,380 podcasting from the state. 10 00:00:48,620 --> 00:00:50,220 Poduty and the News. 11 00:00:52,380 --> 00:00:53,980 Poduty and the News. 12 00:00:56,220 --> 00:00:59,020 The only live news podcast about 13 00:00:59,340 --> 00:01:01,500 podcasting from the state. 14 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,640 Oh, the only live news podcast about podcasting from the 15 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,440 stage. Jeff Dwoskin, welcome to the show. Hey, great to be here. 16 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,040 Way to create your own niche. 17 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,240 It's like, what can I be number one? Mine's the best, uh, mine's the number 18 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,880 one podcast of podcasts listened to 19 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,930 on Tuesdays between 3 and 4 PM., 20 00:01:29,930 --> 00:01:33,770 with only one earbud. So we were— Liam, no, if you go to 21 00:01:33,770 --> 00:01:37,530 the Apple charts, that's— you'll see Classic Conversations is number— 22 00:01:37,530 --> 00:01:41,170 always number one. I want to dominate somewhere. So the only live 23 00:01:41,170 --> 00:01:44,770 news podcast about podcasting from the stage on Tuesday nights in 24 00:01:44,770 --> 00:01:48,570 downtown Toronto, Pennsylvania. We can't be beat because there's 25 00:01:48,570 --> 00:01:52,010 literally no other business open in this town tonight. Right now, I'm the only thing 26 00:01:52,010 --> 00:01:54,650 with the lights on in the front. All right. Well, I'm excited to be on 27 00:01:54,650 --> 00:01:57,570 the only, uh, live newscast about. 28 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Podcasting. Maybe there's a reason why. It's a bucket. Hang on, give me a 29 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,120 second. What time is it? It's time to check something off my bucket list. That's 30 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,920 what time it is. Wow. It's like Stroh's is 31 00:02:10,920 --> 00:02:14,360 America's only fire-brewed beer or wood-fired 32 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,000 beer. Maybe there's a reason for that, Stroh's. I was 33 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,000 just in Detroit this weekend outside the old 34 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,480 Stroh's ice cream building. It's now a brewery, but yeah, 35 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,400 so not too bad. I guess they're doing something right. We just don't understand 36 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,920 it. It's the only live news podcast talking about domestic 37 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,520 beer. The only live news podcast 38 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,120 about podcasting with Jeff and 39 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,520 Jeff. All the Jeffs. I was going to do one of those— everyone's betting 40 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:50,360 on things now, the prop bets and those markets where you can just 41 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,100 pick things. I was going to do a bet. Will both Jeffs have 42 00:02:54,100 --> 00:02:57,660 brushed their teeth? I did just before because I knew you'd ask 43 00:02:59,260 --> 00:03:02,300 me. I'm like, I'm brushing my teeth because I know Jeff is going to ask 44 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:06,020 me if I brush my teeth. I want to be able to 45 00:03:06,020 --> 00:03:08,540 say yes in good conscience. Yeah, there we 46 00:03:09,740 --> 00:03:12,900 go. There we go. And when we go back to your podcast, their Classic Conversations, 47 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:16,580 it is like, for me, I'm, I'm turning 50 this year, and 48 00:03:16,580 --> 00:03:20,110 the guests that you're having on the show were 49 00:03:20,110 --> 00:03:23,950 so influential in my childhood. And you're interviewing all these great 50 00:03:23,950 --> 00:03:27,510 TV stars, movie stars from that time period when I was growing 51 00:03:27,510 --> 00:03:31,150 up. And tell us a little bit about Classic Conversations. What can people expect when 52 00:03:31,150 --> 00:03:34,790 they tune in? Um, well, that's exactly— you kind of 53 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:40,190 nailed, uh, what— now what it was— it hit the hammer on the head there, 54 00:03:40,190 --> 00:03:43,990 uh, with the pocket. That's what it's— it is to me too. It's being able 55 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:46,970 to talk to people who I watched 56 00:03:47,450 --> 00:03:50,930 on TV growing up. It's kind of 57 00:03:50,930 --> 00:03:54,730 a thrill. I hope when people watch 58 00:03:54,730 --> 00:03:58,450 or listen that, you know, it's kind of like 59 00:03:58,450 --> 00:04:02,010 they have the same kind of passion that I do about the entertainment 60 00:04:02,010 --> 00:04:05,530 and those people and those characters. And I'm just filling 61 00:04:05,770 --> 00:04:09,570 in, talking to the guest on all of my guests, 62 00:04:09,570 --> 00:04:13,190 on my listeners' behalf. That's what I kind of hope the vibe 63 00:04:13,350 --> 00:04:16,550 is, you know, it's like I'm speaking for everyone and 64 00:04:17,430 --> 00:04:21,150 then, and, uh, and making it happen type thing. Yeah, asking all the questions I 65 00:04:21,150 --> 00:04:24,790 would have wanted to know, you know, 30, 40 years ago. Here you 66 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:28,351 are sitting down with them, going through some of those, you know, those 67 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:32,030 old-time production stories and the making of stories and some of the behind 68 00:04:32,030 --> 00:04:35,350 the scenes stuff. It's, it's just tremendous conversation. 69 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:39,490 So I, my biggest thrill I've always said, like, people 70 00:04:39,490 --> 00:04:43,250 ask, oh, I have people on The Love Boat— Gopher, Isaac, and Doc, 71 00:04:43,250 --> 00:04:47,050 and, you know, Happy Days— Potsie, Ralph Malph, Mrs. C. 72 00:04:47,050 --> 00:04:50,690 And then last December, I got the opportunity— The Love 73 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:55,650 Boat, uh, Isaac, Gopher, and Julie, um, Jill 74 00:04:55,730 --> 00:04:59,450 Whelan— they all, uh, did— they're doing a Love 75 00:04:59,450 --> 00:05:03,250 Boat— it's not really a rewatch, but they bring people on that guested 76 00:05:03,250 --> 00:05:07,070 on The Love Boat, and they talk about their time on The Love Boat.. And 77 00:05:07,070 --> 00:05:09,910 I, they reached out to me, somebody, their people reached out to me and they're 78 00:05:09,910 --> 00:05:13,550 like, would you like to have all three on together? And I was 79 00:05:13,790 --> 00:05:16,670 like, yeah. I mean, I was like, that's like a dream come 80 00:05:18,110 --> 00:05:21,630 true. And, um, and when I was talking to Fred Grandy, Gopher, he, who 81 00:05:21,630 --> 00:05:25,370 I had interviewed previously, he's like, and you can listen to 82 00:05:25,370 --> 00:05:28,430 this. My, and my wife even says I'm not crazy. He's like, you know, Jeff, 83 00:05:28,430 --> 00:05:32,110 when, after our interview, I, uh, you know, you kind of helped 84 00:05:32,110 --> 00:05:35,750 spark this idea for this podcast. And I'm like, and 85 00:05:35,750 --> 00:05:38,990 I got close at like, I interviewed Gopher 86 00:05:39,710 --> 00:05:43,390 and then I end up inspiring or helping 87 00:05:43,390 --> 00:05:47,230 to push forward an idea for a podcast on 88 00:05:47,230 --> 00:05:50,230 a show I grew up watching and why I enjoyed being with them in the 89 00:05:50,230 --> 00:05:53,430 first place. I mean, it's like, it was just a cool, it was a cool 90 00:05:53,430 --> 00:05:56,710 moment. I played it for my wife because she normally, she would go, no, Jeff, 91 00:05:56,710 --> 00:06:00,120 that's not what just happened. And, uh, but even she was like, oh my God, 92 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,960 that's so cool. Yeah, it's like, I— a lot of 93 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,400 times when I listen to the show, I think about those moments. Like, 94 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,240 could you imagine yourself, 1985, watching 95 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,720 Love Boat, and then 30 years later you're going to influence us, like 96 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,680 a spin-off podcast about it? Not that you would know what a podcast was 97 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,040 in 1985, but that you would have some sort of— even, even just to be 98 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,760 able to talk to those people back in 1985 was 99 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,160 so far removed from us. Celebrities were something 100 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,920 that were untouchable. You couldn't just walk in and talk to a 101 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,880 celebrity. And with technology today and what you're building, you're 102 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,560 able to have those conversations with things, with people we 103 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,240 thought were untouchable 30, 40 years ago. Yeah, I 104 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,800 mean, it's really kind of, it's wild and a little surreal. You can kind of 105 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,400 see in my background, I have all these 8x10s. So going to, and it goes 106 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,200 all the way around my office ever. And Going growing 107 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,920 up, I mean, in the last, you know, 10 or so years 108 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,040 specifically, like, uh, going to Comic-Cons has like been like my thing. So meeting 109 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,640 these people, so when I finally realized, oh, they'll talk 110 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,960 to me, it was, uh, it was quite— and then it's fun going to Comic-Cons 111 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,800 and meeting people in person that I had on the show. 112 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,560 So that's always kind of a thrill as well. So yeah, I 113 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,250 love it, love it. I'll put the link in the show 114 00:07:21,250 --> 00:07:25,090 notes. Classic Conversations, Jeff Dwaszkin. You can see there's 115 00:07:25,250 --> 00:07:29,050 at least— how. Many episodes are total? Uh, 411 116 00:07:29,050 --> 00:07:32,770 as of right now. Wow. Yeah, 411 episodes of what we 117 00:07:32,770 --> 00:07:36,210 were just talking about. Go back through and check the 118 00:07:36,370 --> 00:07:40,170 archives there. It's really an incredible production. Yeah, when 119 00:07:40,170 --> 00:07:42,530 I kind of look back on it, I'm like, I'm impressed 120 00:07:44,770 --> 00:07:47,940 by myself. You know, I do it all myself, so it's like, you know. It's 121 00:07:47,940 --> 00:07:51,460 pretty— it's a one-man show. It's a one-man theater. We got one-man show with 122 00:07:51,460 --> 00:07:55,060 Jeff Dwaszka. Yeah, you're influenced by these actors 123 00:07:55,060 --> 00:07:58,900 and actresses from the '80s and '90s, and I'm influenced 124 00:07:58,900 --> 00:08:02,700 by our first story, which is donuts. Our first story tonight has 125 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:06,340 donuts, and that's maybe what caught my attention more than the ability to podcast 126 00:08:06,340 --> 00:08:09,860 here. But this is called Donuts and Downloads from the St. Louis 127 00:08:10,020 --> 00:08:13,420 Magazine, and Sweets by Sweetwater's in St. Louis is proof 128 00:08:13,420 --> 00:08:16,840 that live podcasting does not have to start in a 129 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,600 fancy studio. It can start next to a donut counter. 130 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,040 Owner Byron Waters built more than a sweet shop. He created 131 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,880 a community hub with a rehearsal stage, event space, 132 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,480 and podcast room where kids can record their own 133 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,320 shows. That is powerful. Podcasting works best when it serves a 134 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,120 local community first. You build the room, you invite people in, you 135 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,849 give them a microphone, and suddenly you're not just selling 136 00:08:42,849 --> 00:08:46,449 donuts you're building creators, building confidence, and building the 137 00:08:46,449 --> 00:08:50,169 future of live podcasting from the ground up. And 138 00:08:50,169 --> 00:08:53,809 this type of story is something that I, I relish in. 139 00:08:53,809 --> 00:08:57,649 I love seeing these kind of grassroots moments where they're 140 00:08:57,649 --> 00:09:01,249 putting something in. Maybe they don't know fully about podcast 141 00:09:01,249 --> 00:09:04,849 studios and podcast recording, but they have some sort of interest, some sort of love, 142 00:09:04,849 --> 00:09:08,569 and they also love donuts, and they put these two things together to support 143 00:09:09,210 --> 00:09:13,050 the community. Let the kids come in after school, a safe place to hang out, 144 00:09:13,050 --> 00:09:15,930 record a couple episodes, and, you know, go home with 145 00:09:17,290 --> 00:09:19,610 a dozen. Yeah. Or baker's dozen. 146 00:09:22,890 --> 00:09:26,130 Yeah. Yeah. The, uh, yeah. The interesting part of the story is where the, uh, 147 00:09:26,130 --> 00:09:29,690 the owner's father was like, donuts, you're never gonna make it in donuts. You 148 00:09:30,090 --> 00:09:33,690 gotta diversify. And so he, uh, he opened up that 149 00:09:33,850 --> 00:09:37,330 podcast studio. So, which is smart. It's. Putting the 150 00:09:38,370 --> 00:09:42,210 power of audio in the kids' hands is, uh, is a good idea. I 151 00:09:42,210 --> 00:09:45,970 mean, Saturday Night Live, just a couple times now, Sabrina 152 00:09:46,690 --> 00:09:50,130 Carpenter has, uh, parodied a, 153 00:09:50,210 --> 00:09:52,930 um, snack talking, uh, podcast 154 00:09:54,370 --> 00:09:57,810 by kids. And we've seen a couple of these, like, kind of, uh, like 155 00:09:58,290 --> 00:10:02,130 Creator Studio slash something else. And more and more, they're, they're giving a place 156 00:10:02,130 --> 00:10:05,450 for people to come in, and there is a stage here as well, so these 157 00:10:05,450 --> 00:10:09,210 kids who are recording podcasts after school, there's an opportunity 158 00:10:09,210 --> 00:10:13,010 maybe on the weekend or Saturday mornings when, you know, the most amount 159 00:10:13,010 --> 00:10:16,370 of coffee and donuts are getting sold to possibly do a 160 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:20,609 live show in the venue while people are coming in and have some 161 00:10:20,609 --> 00:10:24,450 sort of get-together, some sort of gathering, some sort of reason to bring the 162 00:10:24,850 --> 00:10:28,290 community together. And you get this added benefit when you're teaching people how to be 163 00:10:28,290 --> 00:10:30,690 on a microphone, how to record and 164 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,480 be comfortable. It's, it's also a lifelong skill that these kids will have, and now 165 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,320 they'll be able to perform that and give something back to the community 166 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:40,520 along. 167 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,481 With donuts. Uh, yes, yes, yes, yes. They'll, they'll be 168 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,320 able to, uh, start a business and charge us $200 an hour 169 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,440 to edit our podcasts, which we 170 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,360 make 17 cents on. But yes, I mean, economically it's got to make sense 171 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,910 for someone. So yeah. Yes, if you're out in St. 172 00:11:01,910 --> 00:11:05,750 Louis in Sweets by Sweetwaters, check it out. It's an interesting 173 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:09,270 concept. It's not one I haven't seen one paired with donuts. I've seen 174 00:11:09,270 --> 00:11:13,030 other like arts and libraries and, you know, authors. I've seen 175 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:16,470 them pair podcast studios together, but first time for everything. This 176 00:11:16,470 --> 00:11:20,150 one has donuts. Donuts. 177 00:11:20,150 --> 00:11:23,710 Let's go over to our second story tonight. We're going 178 00:11:23,710 --> 00:11:27,390 lab coats and live mics. The Story Collider is 179 00:11:27,390 --> 00:11:31,080 taking a podcast with about a million downloads a year and putting it 180 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,880 on a stage in Pasadena. Scientists, 181 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,360 comedians, firefighters, everyday people are sharing true stories about 182 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,120 when life goes off the rails. That is what live podcasting is 183 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,840 supposed to be like. It's not just information, it's 184 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,600 emotion, it's attention, it's laughter in a room full of strangers who 185 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,320 suddenly feel connected. When you take something that already works in the 186 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,840 headphones and bring it to a live audience, you raise the stakes, 187 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,690 you turn science into a story, And story is what 188 00:12:00,690 --> 00:12:04,210 fills the seats. Welcome to Story Collider. 189 00:12:04,370 --> 00:12:07,490 Another interesting concept. We've heard a lot about history 190 00:12:07,730 --> 00:12:11,250 podcasts getting traction. Science podcasts are also 191 00:12:11,250 --> 00:12:14,450 another big niche in podcasting that people are 192 00:12:15,170 --> 00:12:18,250 flocking to. There are types of podcasts that people didn't care so much about in 193 00:12:18,250 --> 00:12:22,010 high school. They didn't want to sit through a history lecture or a science 194 00:12:22,010 --> 00:12:25,470 lecture, but as we're getting older and learning in different ways, 195 00:12:25,470 --> 00:12:29,190 And these podcasters are telling us stories about things that 196 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:32,830 they're passionate about. People are starting to respond to that better than 197 00:12:32,830 --> 00:12:36,270 just a general lecture in the classroom. It's a good 198 00:12:36,270 --> 00:12:39,950 way to digest information. So, and you can listen to it 199 00:12:39,950 --> 00:12:43,710 at 2 speeds, so you can take twice as much in, twice as much 200 00:12:43,710 --> 00:12:47,350 learning and twice the speed. 201 00:12:47,350 --> 00:12:50,910 So I'd rather argue about whether just because they're standing up saying the same thing, 202 00:12:50,910 --> 00:12:54,490 if it's a live podcast. Well, if they record it 203 00:12:54,490 --> 00:12:58,290 and distribute it. But what we are seeing is, as of— it's 204 00:12:58,290 --> 00:13:02,050 so weird to see science and history 205 00:13:02,050 --> 00:13:05,130 as forms of entertainment, you know. Yes, there's the History 206 00:13:05,370 --> 00:13:08,930 Channel and Hamilton. Yeah, but these are things that weren't 207 00:13:08,930 --> 00:13:12,250 really on people's radar 20 years ago. And, you know, 208 00:13:13,130 --> 00:13:16,410 as we, you know, I don't know if we're getting away from books and reading 209 00:13:16,410 --> 00:13:19,770 like I am, but entertainment as part 210 00:13:21,060 --> 00:13:24,780 of education seems to be a route that more people are attracted to. 211 00:13:24,780 --> 00:13:28,620 People who want to learn about science and history and, or just had that 212 00:13:28,620 --> 00:13:31,940 little itch in the back of their, you know, in their back of their head, 213 00:13:32,180 --> 00:13:35,900 I guess, they are now learning about the things that 214 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:39,740 they never really cared about because of the podcasts like 215 00:13:39,740 --> 00:13:42,620 this. Yeah, it's a good medium to, you know, you can get a little creative 216 00:13:42,620 --> 00:13:46,230 with it. And so it's, yeah, it's 217 00:13:46,230 --> 00:13:49,910 I think it's great. I've been— there's a couple that I've been toying 218 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:53,590 with. I was like, I'm excited. But yeah, I think it's great. I 219 00:13:53,590 --> 00:13:57,430 think sometimes those short form are really good, especially if you can just 220 00:13:57,430 --> 00:14:01,150 nail one topic really quick. Yeah, we'll keep it moving right 221 00:14:01,150 --> 00:14:04,830 along. We'll go to a story about AI. 222 00:14:04,830 --> 00:14:08,270 Of course, we're going to AI. Everything this day and age 223 00:14:08,590 --> 00:14:12,410 in 2026 is AI related, and AI takes the 224 00:14:12,410 --> 00:14:15,630 stage And this comes to us from 225 00:14:15,630 --> 00:14:19,390 TPBN. Dylan Patel from Semi Analysis 226 00:14:19,630 --> 00:14:23,070 joined TPBN live at Cisco AI Summit to talk about the future 227 00:14:23,230 --> 00:14:26,910 of AI, chips, power, and even data centers in 228 00:14:26,910 --> 00:14:30,190 space. This conversation happened on a stage at a 229 00:14:30,670 --> 00:14:34,230 real-world event. This is where big ideas belong. We 230 00:14:34,230 --> 00:14:37,790 are still underestimating how fast AI is changing 231 00:14:37,870 --> 00:14:41,630 everything. Including how creators produce content. But here's the 232 00:14:41,710 --> 00:14:45,510 bigger lesson: the smartest voices in tech are not just publishing 233 00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:48,670 episodes. They're showing up live, capturing the energy of the room, 234 00:14:48,750 --> 00:14:52,470 and building authority in real time. In an AI-driven 235 00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:56,230 world, the most valuable thing you can own is trust, 236 00:14:56,230 --> 00:15:00,070 and trust is built faster when you see it live. 237 00:15:00,070 --> 00:15:03,870 And so it's an AI summit conference. They're 238 00:15:04,430 --> 00:15:08,100 recording AI-related podcasts all throughout the conference. So this is an 239 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:11,660 idea of getting your podcast in front of the audience where your audience 240 00:15:11,660 --> 00:15:15,340 is showing up. I, I think it's one of the best strategies you 241 00:15:15,420 --> 00:15:19,060 can do. No matter what you're interested in, what your podcast is 242 00:15:19,060 --> 00:15:22,620 about, there's probably an event or an industry you could show up 243 00:15:23,340 --> 00:15:25,900 at and piggyback, piggyback off of the people who are 244 00:15:26,780 --> 00:15:30,420 already there. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. So 245 00:15:30,420 --> 00:15:33,860 this whole, this whole conversation, by the way, was created by 246 00:15:34,260 --> 00:15:37,700 AI. So I, nothing I'm saying right now, I'm reading off teleprompter. 247 00:15:37,940 --> 00:15:41,580 Every even saying I'm reading off teleprompter was written by AI and 248 00:15:41,580 --> 00:15:44,820 I'm reading it now. Uh, right now it even. 249 00:15:46,660 --> 00:15:50,460 Told me to go, uh, uh, the AI script I gave you said at, at 250 00:15:50,460 --> 00:15:54,300 moment, uh, 17 minutes pause. And go, uh, uh, 251 00:15:54,300 --> 00:15:57,620 that way, you know, it's real. Well, let's talk a little bit about 252 00:15:58,260 --> 00:16:02,020 hashtag roundup. Are there any plans to implement some AI into 253 00:16:03,020 --> 00:16:06,780 hashtag roundup? Uh, well, hashtag roundup is kind of retired a bit. 254 00:16:06,940 --> 00:16:10,740 Stampede Social is, uh, is where it's at right now. The, uh, yeah, we 255 00:16:10,740 --> 00:16:14,580 do have AI. It's a creator-based tool and we have 256 00:16:14,580 --> 00:16:18,220 AI that can help you respond to comments, 257 00:16:18,220 --> 00:16:22,061 uh, on Instagram using AI. And it can— you pick your tone 258 00:16:22,061 --> 00:16:25,620 and theme and it can read your captions and give you suggestions on 259 00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:29,070 how to respond to things in a very clever way. 260 00:16:29,070 --> 00:16:31,950 Specifically like emojis, right? 261 00:16:32,910 --> 00:16:36,390 And then you can do comment analysis 262 00:16:36,390 --> 00:16:40,150 on your posts. You can do competitor analysis. 263 00:16:40,150 --> 00:16:43,990 You can see what they're up to by analyzing their 264 00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:47,310 comments. And then, yeah, so, you know, we integrate a lot of 265 00:16:47,550 --> 00:16:48,990 AI, but sometimes 266 00:16:52,950 --> 00:16:56,740 I think a lot of people look at, think of AI as, Oh, I just 267 00:16:56,740 --> 00:17:00,540 need it to create a script for me, or I need it 268 00:17:00,540 --> 00:17:04,180 to come up with ideas for me, things like 269 00:17:04,420 --> 00:17:08,260 that. Like, and I've actually, that's not how I use AI 270 00:17:09,100 --> 00:17:12,940 myself. I use AI to build tools that I can 271 00:17:12,940 --> 00:17:16,740 use to make myself more productive. Yeah, 272 00:17:16,740 --> 00:17:20,226 I apologize. I've known you for so long. No, no, I mean, it used to 273 00:17:20,226 --> 00:17:23,609 be a competition. I wrote that thing ground up from memory on my paper, but 274 00:17:23,609 --> 00:17:27,289 it, Stampede Social is what we're looking for. That's the correct name of the 275 00:17:27,289 --> 00:17:31,089 company. I apologize for that. No, it's okay. You're okay. 276 00:17:31,649 --> 00:17:35,049 Um, I, I, uh, yeah, so yeah, 277 00:17:35,049 --> 00:17:38,449 I mean, AI I think is a big deal, but I think, uh, I mean, 278 00:17:38,449 --> 00:17:41,649 if you want my two cents on AI is you have to become a master 279 00:17:41,809 --> 00:17:44,809 of AI. And, and I don't mean a master of asking it for stuff that 280 00:17:44,809 --> 00:17:48,129 you would then parrot. I mean, you have to become a master of being able 281 00:17:48,129 --> 00:17:51,860 to create things and help it leverage you 282 00:17:51,860 --> 00:17:55,500 do what you were already gonna do better and not be the 283 00:17:55,500 --> 00:17:59,140 lead, but you're a copilot. But I built an entire, when we 284 00:17:59,140 --> 00:18:02,740 talk about podcasting, and this is specifically great for 285 00:18:02,740 --> 00:18:06,540 live news podcasts. Really, it's only 286 00:18:06,940 --> 00:18:09,980 good for if you're a news podcast that's 287 00:18:10,700 --> 00:18:14,460 live. But I created a whole tracking system, like how everything 288 00:18:15,050 --> 00:18:17,970 I do, and then, and all the data I collect for gas and stuff like 289 00:18:17,970 --> 00:18:21,650 that, I create an entire app on my thing, and it tells me 290 00:18:21,650 --> 00:18:25,290 when the calendars are. I put the release dates. It, it reminds 291 00:18:25,290 --> 00:18:28,970 me to do everything. And so I built it all with 292 00:18:28,970 --> 00:18:31,690 AI. And so, you know, and they just run it. 293 00:18:32,970 --> 00:18:36,050 So it's, um, it's, it's a great way to make— we're in a world right 294 00:18:36,050 --> 00:18:39,890 now where if you can think of something, you can create it. So 295 00:18:39,890 --> 00:18:43,620 if you have things that you're doing repeatedly, you can create those 296 00:18:43,620 --> 00:18:47,300 apps. You don't have to rely on, oh, well, Notion does it this way, so 297 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:49,780 I have to do it that way. You can just build it however you 298 00:18:51,140 --> 00:18:54,860 want it. Very nice. I usually tell people, if you're, if you're just getting into 299 00:18:54,860 --> 00:18:58,590 AI, if your prompts aren't as long as the output, you're, 300 00:18:58,740 --> 00:19:02,341 you're probably relying on AI too much. Like you're, you're, you're letting it create 301 00:19:02,341 --> 00:19:06,070 too many things. You should have full thoughts and full 302 00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:09,550 direction. And it should enhance what you're doing and make you better at what you're 303 00:19:09,550 --> 00:19:12,870 doing, at least on the level I'm not using it for coding or anything. I'm 304 00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:16,270 using it for creation and editing and 305 00:19:17,470 --> 00:19:21,070 animating things. But I always say, like, your prompt, you should have 306 00:19:21,070 --> 00:19:24,750 a really detailed, well-thought-out prompt before you take anything 307 00:19:24,750 --> 00:19:27,870 out of AI. 308 00:19:28,670 --> 00:19:32,110 Yeah, yeah, that's true. And then, you know, it's using 309 00:19:32,270 --> 00:19:35,960 the same AI over and over again, you 310 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,680 know, and if it has memory like Claude or ChatGPT has memory, 311 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,440 it can start to— you can train it like, don't 312 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,080 use em dashes, do this, do that, you know, this is the type of 313 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,920 tone I like. So you can train it to know certain 314 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,600 things every time that you don't have to refeed it, you know. If it's, if 315 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,440 it's making you images, like I have a classic conversations GPT 316 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,290 that I built So I gave it all the colors that I use from, you 317 00:20:02,290 --> 00:20:05,530 know, so I don't have to ever tell it that again. And then it just, 318 00:20:05,530 --> 00:20:09,130 it can always just kind of do it that way. So yeah, 319 00:20:09,130 --> 00:20:12,930 it's pretty cool. Pretty cool. It's amazing. The amazing thing about 320 00:20:12,930 --> 00:20:16,650 AI is how fast we're all become addicted to it 321 00:20:16,650 --> 00:20:20,330 and relying on it. That's, that's the crazy thing. So fast 322 00:20:20,330 --> 00:20:24,170 and scary all at the same time. We'll keep it 323 00:20:24,170 --> 00:20:27,670 going. Speaking of fast and scary. The 40-year-old 324 00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:31,470 sweet spot. It comes to us from Inside Radio. For 325 00:20:31,470 --> 00:20:35,230 years, advertisers chased the youngest podcast listeners, but the real 326 00:20:35,230 --> 00:20:39,030 opportunity might be 35 to 44-year-olds. New data shows they 327 00:20:39,030 --> 00:20:42,870 are more likely to remember ads and more likely to make a big 328 00:20:43,350 --> 00:20:46,150 buying decision— insurance, home improvement, wireless, 329 00:20:46,990 --> 00:20:50,830 even executive-level B2B decisions. And here's what jumped out to 330 00:20:50,830 --> 00:20:54,550 me: that same 35 to 44 demo is who shows up 331 00:20:54,550 --> 00:20:58,310 for live podcast events. They have careers, they have families, they 332 00:20:58,470 --> 00:21:02,190 have money. If you're building a live podcast business, you're not just 333 00:21:02,190 --> 00:21:05,670 building an audience, you're building access to the most valuable 334 00:21:05,670 --> 00:21:09,430 buyers in podcasting. That changes the math. And you start 335 00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:13,150 thinking about larger comedians and actors who have podcasts, 336 00:21:13,150 --> 00:21:16,550 they're filling theaters and arenas now. But if you look at 337 00:21:16,870 --> 00:21:20,620 that audience, it's 35 to 54-year-old you know, 338 00:21:20,620 --> 00:21:24,260 couples a lot of times. It's, it's the same demographic 339 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:27,900 going to these. And that's something I noticed with selling tickets here for this theater. 340 00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:31,340 We're only a 40-seat theater, but the people who 341 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:34,460 show up are 35 to 45 years old. I, 342 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:38,220 I'm like, like people that I would have grown up with are showing up and 343 00:21:38,220 --> 00:21:41,900 to these live podcasting events. So that demographic may 344 00:21:42,060 --> 00:21:45,580 have been overlooked, that, or not even one that you think of is 345 00:21:45,580 --> 00:21:49,020 listening to podcasts, but This data from Inside 346 00:21:49,020 --> 00:21:52,740 Radio says otherwise. Um, I always thought it was 40 to 347 00:21:52,740 --> 00:21:56,500 44, so I don't, you know, my target audience 348 00:21:56,500 --> 00:22:00,140 is 45 to 65. Well, you should be 349 00:22:00,140 --> 00:22:03,660 doing live shows and selling tickets. I should, I should be, I should 350 00:22:06,780 --> 00:22:10,460 be actually. Um, oh man. Um, yeah, no, that's good. I 351 00:22:10,460 --> 00:22:13,260 mean, I wish I had stuff, more stuff to sell them, 352 00:22:14,690 --> 00:22:18,130 I suppose. Well, you do Crossing the Streams. That's a live stream podcast. 353 00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:23,810 Isn'T it? Um, yeah, we, we, uh, I haven't done it in a little bit, 354 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:27,490 but yeah, we did it for many years and then, 355 00:22:27,490 --> 00:22:31,330 uh, everyone just, everyone kind of retired. 356 00:22:31,810 --> 00:22:35,650 And so, uh, but yeah, I like doing live is, I 357 00:22:35,650 --> 00:22:38,930 mean, it's, it's a lot of fun. I mean, it's like, because you 358 00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:42,870 know, it's there's no editing. So it's like, you know, 359 00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:46,310 you just go. And it's the thing 360 00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:50,150 I learned I find most fascinating about live 361 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:53,830 shows versus edited ones is people 362 00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:57,990 will accept different things from a live show than if they 363 00:22:57,990 --> 00:23:01,350 were watching something that was prerecorded, edited, and then 364 00:23:01,590 --> 00:23:04,670 put out, right? Like we could have a glitch right now and we could be 365 00:23:04,670 --> 00:23:07,750 funny trying to figure out, and people would watch that because they would think it 366 00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:10,920 was funny. But if we, if you were to put that on a 367 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,720 podcast, audio-only version, people would be like, why the hell did he not 368 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,441 edit this out? I don't need to hear this. Well, we'll keep, let's keep it 369 00:23:18,441 --> 00:23:22,160 going right along. We're going, we're climbing towers. 370 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,360 We're going to climbing live on the Rich 371 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,720 Roll Podcast. Alex Honnold's first podcast after 372 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,440 free climbing, Taipei 101, happened live on the Rich 373 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,040 Roll Podcast, and more than 32,000 people have already watched 374 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,600 it. Think about that. A historic moment followed immediately by 375 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,400 a live stage conversation. That is powerful. 376 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,800 The tension of climbing carried straight into the energy of 377 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,040 the room. Live events let audiences process big moments together. 378 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,800 They feel the risk, they feel the relief, and they feel connected to the 379 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,560 person who just did something unbelievable. This is 380 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,000 why live podcasting is so important. It 381 00:24:03,330 --> 00:24:07,130 turns interviewers into shared experiences, and shared experiences 382 00:24:07,130 --> 00:24:09,410 are what 383 00:24:11,410 --> 00:24:15,210 people remember. This type of event where they had this theater space, they pulled out 384 00:24:15,210 --> 00:24:18,650 two chairs, and they just had a one-on-one interview in front of 385 00:24:18,650 --> 00:24:22,210 a live audience right after this thing aired on 386 00:24:22,210 --> 00:24:25,970 Netflix, right after just ascending the top of a 387 00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:29,600 building. And you're— that person, Alex, is 388 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,360 still probably has adrenaline pumping through his veins, is still pumped 389 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:37,120 up from accomplishing this feat, the live show, probably got a nice check 390 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,720 from the live stream from Netflix, and now he can sit down, 391 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,440 take a minute, and tell the story of how it all came 392 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,640 together. There's something about, um, and you know, I 393 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,680 did stand-up comedy, so you know, there's interesting— 394 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,360 when you do it just your act or what would be considered like a 395 00:24:55,860 --> 00:24:59,140 normal show where things are just going normal, people enjoy 396 00:24:59,220 --> 00:25:02,980 it. They'll remember it. But when there's moments 397 00:25:02,980 --> 00:25:06,580 that are clearly specifically unique to that moment 398 00:25:06,580 --> 00:25:09,940 that, you know, may not happen again, 399 00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:13,780 off-the-cuff comments, you know, the vibe and the energy that you're 400 00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:17,620 describing with somebody just finishing something incredible that doesn't 401 00:25:17,620 --> 00:25:20,900 happen very often. And that, I think that imprints 402 00:25:21,390 --> 00:25:25,230 on somebody a lot differently. And I think it stays 403 00:25:25,230 --> 00:25:28,510 with them forever. Those are the things, those are the stories people repeat. Oh my 404 00:25:28,510 --> 00:25:32,110 God, you're not going to believe what I did, right? And, or what I heard 405 00:25:32,110 --> 00:25:35,550 or what I saw or what I, where I was. And, you 406 00:25:35,710 --> 00:25:38,750 know, that's, those are the, those are the cool things. That's like a live, you 407 00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:42,590 know, when you go see like someone in concert or any kind of, any 408 00:25:42,590 --> 00:25:46,430 kind of live experience, I think, uh, imprints a 409 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,480 little differently. One of the things I say about live podcasting, it's truly 410 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,120 a once-in-a-lifetime experience. You can only see that story be told 411 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:00,200 one time. They can't take that tomorrow and go to Cleveland and 412 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,040 do another set, another recording of the same podcast. Where a 413 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,560 little bit different than comedy where you're working on a routine, you're 414 00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:12,200 trying to, you know, perfect 7, 15, half an hour. And 415 00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:15,880 the music, the same way. You're gonna go to a town, play the same 416 00:26:16,170 --> 00:26:20,010 15 songs, and then go to the next town and do that. But with, with 417 00:26:20,010 --> 00:26:23,010 podcasting, like, you and I can't do this show again tomorrow, right? It's already been— 418 00:26:23,010 --> 00:26:26,130 these 6 stories are spent. We're— no one's going to come and see us. I 419 00:26:26,130 --> 00:26:29,010 don't know, I think we could dig in, I think, a lot here. We'll take 420 00:26:29,010 --> 00:26:32,610 it on the road. But it's— but it is only going to happen 421 00:26:32,610 --> 00:26:36,170 tonight, and that's it. It's the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to see 422 00:26:36,170 --> 00:26:39,810 a podcast recorded live, and it— most of the time it's not going 423 00:26:39,810 --> 00:26:43,530 to happen again. And, and that's, I think, what makes live podcasting 424 00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:47,590 so special. Yeah, I can concur. This will never happen again. No, I'm 425 00:26:48,070 --> 00:26:51,510 just kidding. He's never coming back. No, this is it. No, 426 00:26:53,030 --> 00:26:56,230 I'm kidding. Uh, I, I'm upset it took you this long to have me. Um, 427 00:26:56,230 --> 00:26:59,950 no, I'm kidding. Uh, we're building hype. We're building hype. The— 428 00:26:59,950 --> 00:27:03,430 no, I— you know, you're right. I mean, when you— anytime you 429 00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:09,350 watch something, um, you have, uh, anytime you 430 00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:11,920 have some unique kind of thing where, 431 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,800 you know, um, like when I go to like going to Comic-Cons and they have 432 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,600 like the panels, you know, like, and the people, you know, depending what questions 433 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,080 are asked or how things go, 434 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,200 um, it's, um, um, you know, you just, you know, like nobody's 435 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,440 gonna ever have that again, you know what I mean? They may answer the same 436 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,900 couple, some of the questions or stories, some of the stories may be the same, 437 00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:40,340 but there's always some question that gets asked or something that 438 00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:44,340 happens or, you know, that, you know, just kind of alters 439 00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:48,220 it or makes it unique for that moment. 440 00:27:48,220 --> 00:27:51,940 Yeah, and that's a great segue for our last story because it is— it's 441 00:27:51,940 --> 00:27:55,620 at a comedy club, it's actors 442 00:27:55,860 --> 00:27:59,700 and artists talking about artists on Artist on Artist. So this is 443 00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:03,460 a show business but live. Artist on Artist on 444 00:28:03,460 --> 00:28:07,060 Artist on Artist is taking their podcast live at Dynasty Typewriter 445 00:28:07,060 --> 00:28:10,831 in Los Angeles And one— and this one checks all 446 00:28:10,990 --> 00:28:14,590 the boxes. Big comedy names, audience suggestions, 447 00:28:14,670 --> 00:28:18,430 industry gossip. And here's the key part. They're selling both 448 00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:22,110 in-person tickets and a live stream. $25 to be in the 449 00:28:22,110 --> 00:28:25,870 room, $20 to watch from anywhere. This is the future model 450 00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:29,710 of podcasting. You monetize the stage and the stream at the same time. 451 00:28:29,710 --> 00:28:33,550 You create urgency with a live show, but you do not cap your audience 452 00:28:33,550 --> 00:28:37,110 at the door. This is what modern podcasting looks like 453 00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:40,790 when creators treat it like show business. 454 00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:45,080 Oh, business. And this is, this is a, this is a playbook, you know, page 455 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,830 right out of my playbook where I have a virtual stage. I have 40 456 00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:52,550 chairs in front of me and we're surrounded by cameras that we 457 00:28:52,550 --> 00:28:55,670 can broadcast this out like we're doing now. So you could watch this show if 458 00:28:55,670 --> 00:28:59,310 you wanted to come see me on a Tuesday night, uh, hang out, 459 00:28:59,310 --> 00:29:03,130 watch the show. You could watch it from your living room. 460 00:29:03,130 --> 00:29:06,730 But this is where I think the model of podcasting is going to go, where 461 00:29:06,730 --> 00:29:10,370 these types of events give you more access to local 462 00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:14,010 people, virtual people, and you're sharing the story all in real time. You're 463 00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:17,250 getting the recording and then releasing that as 464 00:29:17,810 --> 00:29:20,610 your podcast. It's, uh, creating, uh, an 465 00:29:21,410 --> 00:29:25,250 experience is amazing. It's just there's a lot of— I'm sure 466 00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:28,260 there's a lot of overhead that goes into it, 467 00:29:29,380 --> 00:29:32,860 right? I, uh, I, I wish it was an easier way to do it just 468 00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:36,660 because I, I enjoy the flexibility. Or someone cancels, you know, in 469 00:29:36,660 --> 00:29:40,260 the last second, you know, that kind of thing. It doesn't matter for me 470 00:29:40,260 --> 00:29:43,779 with my podcast, but, you know, it's, it's one of 471 00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:47,460 those things where, you know, hope people show up, you know, it's a 472 00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:51,260 whole different energy, a whole different vibe. So, but yeah, I know it's, 473 00:29:51,260 --> 00:29:54,420 it is great. It'd be cool to be able to do so if I had 474 00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:58,260 the following, could do that once a month. I know somebody could do that. Pull 475 00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:01,780 it in, you know, that'd be good. I'd like that. Let's 476 00:30:02,740 --> 00:30:05,820 do that. That's a lot of fun. We're going to do this once a month. 477 00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:09,420 Come back to the Jeff and Jeff, the only live news show 478 00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:13,059 with two Jeffs. Two Jeffs talking about 479 00:30:13,059 --> 00:30:16,900 live podcasting live at the Harrison Encore Podcast Theater. 480 00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:20,740 This has been Poduty in the News. But before we go, I turn the 481 00:30:20,740 --> 00:30:24,260 stage over to Jeff one last time. Plug, promote, 482 00:30:24,420 --> 00:30:27,140 Talk about anything you'd like. Jeff, the floor 483 00:30:27,940 --> 00:30:31,780 is yours. Poduty? You could— you, you call yourself— I thought 484 00:30:31,780 --> 00:30:35,580 it was POD-duty, but I don't know if that— yeah. All 485 00:30:35,580 --> 00:30:38,780 right, we're gonna— first we're gonna rebrand, and then— 486 00:30:38,780 --> 00:30:42,380 oh, Classic Conversations, uh, jeffisfunny.com. That's 487 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:46,180 the easy URL for that podcast, uh, 488 00:30:46,180 --> 00:30:49,990 website. You can get all the links there. 489 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:53,750 Stampede.social. If you're a creator and want to, uh, 490 00:30:54,470 --> 00:30:58,150 help drive, uh, attribution automation on Instagram 491 00:30:58,390 --> 00:31:02,190 and Facebook, check out stampede.social. Uh, 492 00:31:02,190 --> 00:31:06,030 that's it. That's it. Yeah, back to Poduty. 493 00:31:06,030 --> 00:31:09,750 Back to Poduty Live on the stage. There's the theater space that we're 494 00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:13,910 talking about. It's— we got a whole place. We have HDMI access. You could 495 00:31:13,910 --> 00:31:17,560 run any type of show that you want on on the stage. 496 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,200 There's no contract, no minimum ticket sales. I'll record it, sell the 497 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,920 tickets for you, and split the door with you 50/50 at the end of the 498 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,600 night. Check it out at poduty.com. P-O-D-U-T-Y 499 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,399 dot com. This has been Poduty in the News. Look for the 500 00:31:32,399 --> 00:31:34,680 rebrand next week. What time. 501 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:41,960 Is it? It's time for 502 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:56,360 Poduty 503 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,160 and the News, Poduty and the News, the only live news podcast 504 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,930 about podcasting from 505 00:32:00,930 --> 00:32:08,590 the 506 00:32:08,590 --> 00:32:12,090 state. Poduty and the News, Poduty and the The 507 00:32:12,250 --> 00:32:15,850 only live news podcast about podcasting 508 00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:16,590 from the stage.