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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, we're the Bible guys, and if you're just

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<v Speaker 3>So today, poor Peter gets left out into the dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so it's going to be very exciting. There's also persecution.

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<v Speaker 2>James winds up losing his head. So okay, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>you were like stop, no, no, no, I was meaning,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, losing head. Yeah yeah, maybe, yeah, yeah, okay. Well, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you remember when we did the whole stump the pastor

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<v Speaker 2>thing and we solicited people to send us questions. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>so many people send in really really hard questions, and

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<v Speaker 2>today might be one of the tougher ones. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>we were picking five more controversial, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>For sure, we're picking five this week, so the whole

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<v Speaker 3>week and by the way, if you want to send

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<v Speaker 3>in questions to stump the pastor you can just send

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<v Speaker 3>it to right here.

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<v Speaker 4>It is info at dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>And just just email question in and then we'll use

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<v Speaker 3>it on future episodes. Yeah, yeah, it'd be fun or

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<v Speaker 3>maybe possibly maybe So how about And I'm very glad

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<v Speaker 3>by the way that you looked up and did some

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<v Speaker 3>homework on this and you get some verses to read.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this this topic has been something that even as

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, I loved, Like, I read everything I could

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<v Speaker 2>find about this this topic. I just thought it was

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<v Speaker 2>one of the coolest things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and so I'm glad that you did all that.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me read what Skyle wrote. Skiy says in

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<v Speaker 3>Isaiah job and other parts of the Bible, dragons and

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<v Speaker 3>Leviathans are mentioned, and some versions these words were replaced

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<v Speaker 3>with jackline other such creatures. What is actually being referred

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<v Speaker 3>to and why is there such a massive difference in

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<v Speaker 3>the creatures being mentioned?

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, so there's really two questions here. Yes, The bigger

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<v Speaker 2>question I think that she's asking is is the Bible

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<v Speaker 2>really talking about dinosaurs.

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<v Speaker 4>And stuff like that and dragons?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes? And the other question is why do some translations

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<v Speaker 2>change some of the words. Yeah, right, right, So those

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<v Speaker 2>there's two questions. Let's address the second one first, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>why do some translations change? So there's several passages that

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<v Speaker 2>talk about dragons, Leviathan, behemoth, and sea monsters and giant creatures. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So those would be like the Five Things Psalm chapter

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<v Speaker 2>seventy seventy four, Psalm, Isaiah thirteen, Job forty, Job forty one,

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<v Speaker 2>Isaiah twenty seven, Ezekiel twenty four, Ezekiel thirty two. So

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't just like a yeah, look at you. It

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<v Speaker 2>just gets mentioned one time in your little research. It's

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned a bunch of times, right that these creatures, And

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<v Speaker 2>the two where the name gets changed would be in

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<v Speaker 2>Psal in Isaiah thirteen. And I would say probably those

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<v Speaker 2>words get changed because the word in the original language

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<v Speaker 2>in Hebrew is more vague, it's not super clear. So

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<v Speaker 2>then translators are are trying to choose best on the

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<v Speaker 2>the other cues that are within the passage. For instance,

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<v Speaker 2>in Isaiah, it's talking about all these desert animals and

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<v Speaker 2>mentions hyenas, and then this other word that they wind

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<v Speaker 2>up translating is jackal. But in another place it talks

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<v Speaker 2>about in some of the older translations, maybe it would

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<v Speaker 2>reference something like dragon, So either it's a giant lizard

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<v Speaker 2>out in the desert or in the same context with

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<v Speaker 2>the hyenas as their jackals. So whatever it is, it's

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<v Speaker 2>fierce and eat stuff. So that's the that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's too it's so vague of a word that

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<v Speaker 2>I think the translators had a lot of leeway as

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<v Speaker 2>to what it meant. The other ones, though, there's not

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<v Speaker 2>much doubt about these things as far as not.

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<v Speaker 3>Only are they called something, but there's descriptors.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So you know, Leviathan talks about how whenever passages

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<v Speaker 2>talked about Leviathan talks about how huge its neck is,

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<v Speaker 2>how powerful his tail is, how fierce its teeth are,

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<v Speaker 2>how impenetrable its scales are, you know, all.

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<v Speaker 4>These kinds of things. How it breathes fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well that's in Job. That one is crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It literally says when it sneezes, it flashes light. Its

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<v Speaker 2>eyes are like the red of dawn, Lightning leaps from

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<v Speaker 2>its mouth, flames of fire flash out. It's a job.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So Job is the oldest book of the Bible. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the first one written and By the way, people think

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<v Speaker 3>Genesis is yeah, right, because it speaks of creation. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>And yet actually Job was written before all of those.

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<v Speaker 2>Job very likely was alive about the same time Abraham was,

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<v Speaker 2>so they would be contemporaries.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Job clearly describes. And by the way, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a whole chapter, it's a whole chapter on this dragon

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<v Speaker 3>type creature.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on Leviathan. And he says, can you catch Leviathan

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<v Speaker 2>with a hook or put a noose around his jaw?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you tie it with a rope through the nose

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<v Speaker 2>or pierces shall with a spike. He goes on, and

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<v Speaker 2>he says, I want to emphasize Leviathan's limbs and its

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<v Speaker 2>enormous strength and graceful form. Who can strip it of

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<v Speaker 2>its hide? Who can penetrate its double layer of armor?

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<v Speaker 2>Who could probably open his jaws? His teeth are terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Its scales are like rows of shields, tightly sealed together.

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<v Speaker 2>They're so close together that nowhere can get between them.

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<v Speaker 2>Each scale sticks tight to the next, and the interlocked

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<v Speaker 2>cannot be penetrated. Talks about fire. Smoke streams from his

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<v Speaker 2>nostrils like steam from a potted heat heated over burning rushes.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just go on and on so cool,

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<v Speaker 2>the ground shakes when it walks.

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<v Speaker 3>So to make sure that we address other things. So

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<v Speaker 3>here here's my question. And see if you take a

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<v Speaker 3>stabb at this. So that brings up the question. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's sort of two big things. There's dinosaurs, right, so

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<v Speaker 3>the word dinosaur means terrible lizard.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure, and then you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have dragons, which are two different things, and so do

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<v Speaker 3>you believe both existed? And do you believe that mankind

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<v Speaker 3>existed with them?

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<v Speaker 2>Second question? First, yes, I believe that mankind probably existed

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<v Speaker 2>with well did exist with them, because I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>humanity and all the creatures that God made were all

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, right in the six days of creation.

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<v Speaker 2>So the idea of a dinosaur dinosaur just means terrible lizard.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it means. Clearly, this is a terrible lizard.

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<v Speaker 2>Is clearly what he's describing here in the Book of Job.

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<v Speaker 2>There's other times, like in Ezekiel when it mentions this

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<v Speaker 2>Leviathan in the river Nile referring is referring specifically to

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<v Speaker 2>Pharaoh there, that's like an analogy. It's talking about a nile, crocodile,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's talking about so when you look at which

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<v Speaker 2>are huge, Oh they're giant, they maybe eighteen twenty feet long,

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<v Speaker 2>they're massive, so and weigh a thousand pounds. I showed

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<v Speaker 2>you the video when one as in Costa Rica and

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<v Speaker 2>we had those crocodiles come up and they weigh a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand pounds and it's just crazy. So you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you watch a modern show about wild animals, they will

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<v Speaker 2>describe a crocodile as a living fossil or a living dinosaur.

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<v Speaker 2>Same thing with what are those komodo dragons. If you

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<v Speaker 2>ever watch a show about komodo dragons, those things will

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<v Speaker 2>be ten fifteen twenty feet long, fifteen feet long, and

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<v Speaker 2>they'll describe them as living dinosaurs. So we tend to

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<v Speaker 2>separate dinosaurs from giant reptiles we currently have, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>because of the narrative of evolution. But if we just

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<v Speaker 2>say there are some extinct reptiles that don't exist anymore,

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<v Speaker 2>that we're pretty big, very big, and now we've still

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<v Speaker 2>have some pretty big ones, just not as big as

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<v Speaker 2>those forty footers, right, well, then it's not that big

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<v Speaker 2>of a leap. There's all kinds of creatures that used

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<v Speaker 2>to exist that don't exist now, but it doesn't require

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<v Speaker 2>you know, billions of years to separate us. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that humanity in what we would consider dinosaurs,

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<v Speaker 2>these huge reptiles, lived together at the same time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you too.

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<v Speaker 3>And obviously Job is speaking of such a creature. And

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<v Speaker 3>to your point earlier before we started the podcast, he's

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<v Speaker 3>not writing it to introduce the idea. No, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like I saw a mythical creature like I saw a

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<v Speaker 3>big foot in the woods, right right, right. He's describing it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's sort of saying, like, hey, what man can

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<v Speaker 3>actually put you know, a bit on him or put

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<v Speaker 3>a ring through his nose. He's making a point like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody would say, yeah, that's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, He's saying, everybody knows this, everybody the way he's

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<v Speaker 2>describing it, he's describing it like you know this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>arrows can't penetrate it, you know, you know, and and

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<v Speaker 2>he's just trying to define for people how powerful this

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<v Speaker 2>creature is. But God can subdue it. That's what he's

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<v Speaker 2>talking about in that passage, even though we can't. And

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<v Speaker 2>so everybody understands his reader would have understood what he

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<v Speaker 3>So the last thing I want to say is you

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<v Speaker 3>referenced earlier that there's a beetle that it could actually

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<v Speaker 3>produce fire.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's cool. There's several there's a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>animals that we know could. But there's a beetle that

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<v Speaker 2>mixes two chemicals and it'll blow out fire out its

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<v Speaker 2>rear end, and it'll burn any kind of attacker on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we know it is possible even today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh absolutely, yeah, sure. So I don't have any

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<v Speaker 2>reason to dismiss this as being mythical or fake. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not writing it that way. There are references that are

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<v Speaker 2>maybe talking mythically about Pharaoh or about the enemies of Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>But when Job's writing or when David is writing, they

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<v Speaker 2>both seem to be talking about something that they're aware of, which,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I mean, there's cave drawings here in

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<v Speaker 2>the US and in Europe of what appeared to be

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<v Speaker 2>oh and in South America of what appeared to be

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<v Speaker 2>very long necked water creatures of you know, in the

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<v Speaker 2>caves of people that you know from thousands years ago

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<v Speaker 2>who were drawing these things having not seen the flintstones,

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<v Speaker 2>right right, they're drawing pictures of things that they believe

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<v Speaker 2>that they saw.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, all right, so I think that's a really cool one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad Skylie asked that question. And once again we

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<v Speaker 2>can't know for sure what those are, right, But the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible doesn't even seem to apologize for the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>it references these great, big giant lizards, I agree, or beasts. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're going to continue pivot. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>how to pivot off of that one. Let's just do it.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to move into Acts chapter twelve, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is I'm sorry, Acts chapter eleven is where we're at.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, verse nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we actually introduced the wrong passage today.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh sure, said Barnabas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, well we didn't say, Barnabas. We said Peter

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<v Speaker 2>is left out in Nicole and James loses his head. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>neither one of those things happening.

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<v Speaker 2>we are actually reading in Acts chapter eleven, verse nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is going to be even more exciting. So

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<v Speaker 2>here we go. Meanwhile, the believers who had been scattered

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<v Speaker 2>during the persecution. After Stephen's death traveled as far as Phoenicia, Cyprus,

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<v Speaker 2>and Antioch of Syria. They preached the word of God,

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<v Speaker 2>but only to Jews. However, some of the believers who

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<v Speaker 2>the Gentiles about the Lord Jesus. The power of the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord was with them, and a large number of these

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<v Speaker 2>at Jerusalem heard what had happened, they sent Barnabas to Antioch.

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<v Speaker 2>When he arrived and saw this evidence of God's blessing,

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<v Speaker 2>he was filled with joy, and he encouraged the believers

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<v Speaker 2>to stay true to the Lord. Barnabas was a good man,

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<v Speaker 2>many people were brought to the Lord. Then Barnabas went

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<v Speaker 2>on to Tarsus to look for Saul. When he found him,

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<v Speaker 2>he brought him back to Antioch. Both of them stayed

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<v Speaker 2>there with the church for a full year, teaching large

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<v Speaker 2>crowds of people. It was at Antioch that the believers

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<v Speaker 2>were first called Christians. During this time, some prophets travel

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<v Speaker 2>from Jerusalem to Antioch. One of them named Agabus, stood

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<v Speaker 2>up in one of the meetings and predicted by the

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<v Speaker 2>Roman world. This was fulfilled during the reign of Claudius.

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<v Speaker 2>So the believers in Antioch decided to send relief to

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<v Speaker 2>the brothers and sisters in Judea, anyone, giving as much

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<v Speaker 2>to Barnabas and Saul to take to the elders of

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<v Speaker 2>the church in Jerusalem. There it is wow. So this

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<v Speaker 2>those moments when Barnabas takes a significant lead. He keeps

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<v Speaker 2>coming up over and over again. I remember Barnabas's name

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<v Speaker 2>means son of encouragement, right, which is such a great name.

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<v Speaker 2>And you see him always serving in that fashion. So

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<v Speaker 2>what do you have to say?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I was just reading the notes here. So

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<v Speaker 3>in Acts chapter eleven twenty one, it says in Antioch,

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<v Speaker 3>Christianity was launched on its worldwide mission, and they're the

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<v Speaker 3>believers aggressively preach to the gentiles, non Jews. And then

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<v Speaker 3>this skips all the way down believers who were scattered

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<v Speaker 3>after the outbreak of persecution in Jerusalem, spread the good

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<v Speaker 3>The seeds of the missionary work had been sown after

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<v Speaker 3>Stephen's death. That's the part I was looking at at

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<v Speaker 3>this time. The believers begin actively sharing the good news

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<v Speaker 3>with the Gentiles, you know. So you know, in Act

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<v Speaker 3>chapter seven, that's when Peter or that's when Stephen was killed.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then sort of we fast forward and

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<v Speaker 3>we can just see the connecting of the dots where

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<v Speaker 3>Barnabas goes and grabs Saul at Tarsus, which is where

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<v Speaker 3>he was from. He's still called Saul, he hasn't changed

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<v Speaker 3>his name to Paul yet. And we're seeing that the

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<v Speaker 3>gospel is being spread and you know it mentions in

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<v Speaker 3>these notes because of partly and because of Stephen's martyrdom, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because when people are willing to die for

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<v Speaker 3>their faith, it just propels, you know, the word of God.

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<v Speaker 3>And we've seen this throughout all of history. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>in China, the church has never spread as quickly in

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<v Speaker 3>China that when it was persecuted. And so when there

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<v Speaker 3>is persecution and when there's oppression and when people are

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<v Speaker 3>against what God is. That's when the word of God

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<v Speaker 3>shines brightest, that's when people are most bold. And I

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<v Speaker 3>just think it's great how the dots are connecting. We

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<v Speaker 3>know what those who know Christianity know what Paul is

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<v Speaker 3>going to do, right, and we just we see the

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<v Speaker 3>dots connecting, and I think it's a great thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So this Antioch is Some archaeologists and historians would say

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<v Speaker 2>that this Antioch. There were sixteen Antiochs, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>and Paul actually visits another Antioch in what is now

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<v Speaker 2>modern day Turkey, but this Antioch is in Syria. It

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<v Speaker 2>was probably the third most influential city in the entire

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<v Speaker 2>Roman Empire. It was incredibly affluent, it was very very powerful.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole world kind of came through Antioch to do business.

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<v Speaker 2>The colonnades that the main road that went through Anioch

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<v Speaker 2>sides and would have been one of the only cities

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, maybe one of the first cities in

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<v Speaker 2>the world to have their streets lighted at night. So

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<v Speaker 2>they lit up torches up and down this giant colonnade.

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<v Speaker 2>They did business day and night. They were famous for that.

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<v Speaker 2>They were also famous for their for their worship. They

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<v Speaker 2>worshiped all of the Roman gods, but they particularly were

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<v Speaker 2>dedicated to Daphne, had this big temple there, all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was a very strategic city to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>It would have been natural to go there because it

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<v Speaker 2>would have been like, you know, hey, let's go to

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it was a natural hub. But you could

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<v Speaker 2>also blend in with this massive crowd one hundreds of

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people, kind of stay underground a lot easier

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<v Speaker 2>than being the only Christian in your village of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred people. And so it was a natural place,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was incredibly strategic for the spread of the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when they're reaching you know, some of them

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<v Speaker 2>they go and they only share the Gospel with the Jews, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>But then others start sharing the Gospel with the Gentiles,

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<v Speaker 2>which is way more of them, and they become Christians.

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<v Speaker 2>Then the Christians down in Drusalem go, we should go

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<v Speaker 2>check this out. This is kind of confirmation from what

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<v Speaker 2>they had affirmed with Peter. Let's see if it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of working out the same way with all of these

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<v Speaker 2>new Christians in Antioch, and that's why they sent Barnabas,

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<v Speaker 3>I love how it says in Antioch, this is where

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<v Speaker 3>the believers were first called Christians. So before that time

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<v Speaker 3>there wasn't so think about this. Yeah, So last podcast

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday we talked about how Pentecost had taken place, and

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<v Speaker 3>between Pentecost and this timeline is almost a decade. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so for a decade of the beginning of the movement

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<v Speaker 3>of Christianity, it wasn't called Christianity, right, so it's movements

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<v Speaker 3>of the Way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They were the followers of the Way of the Way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so you know, assuming that came from you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when Jesus said I Am the Way, the Truth, and

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<v Speaker 3>the Life. No man gets to the Father except for

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<v Speaker 3>me John fourteen six. And so so here now they're

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<v Speaker 3>called Christians, which means little Christ, right, that's right, So

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<v Speaker 3>it means little christ. I think that's interesting too, because

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<v Speaker 3>we throw around the word Christianity.

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<v Speaker 4>We've we've been raised with our whole lives.

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<v Speaker 3>We just it's just a thing, you know, we just know, right,

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<v Speaker 3>But the word christ, the word Christian is it means

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<v Speaker 3>little Christ. So there are so many people in this

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<v Speaker 3>world but say, oh, I'm a Christian, but there's no

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<v Speaker 3>direct you know, they don't look like Christ at all, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And what they're really saying is, yeah, I sort of

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<v Speaker 3>believe that there's a God and I believe that. You

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<v Speaker 3>know that all that stuff's true, it's just not for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Or what they mean is I'm not a pagan and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a Muslim, and I'm not an atheist. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go, So I must be a Christian right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember this was a derogatory term. They weren't complimenting and going,

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<v Speaker 2>you look a lot like Jesus. You remind me. They're

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<v Speaker 2>mocking them, saying you're little Jesus is aha, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was a mocking term. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>derogatory term. We've had a season in our nation where

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<v Speaker 2>it was a beneficial thing to be called a Christian, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a respectable thing to be called a Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>But that good moniker is going away and it's going

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<v Speaker 2>back to being a negative in a lot of environments.

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<v Speaker 2>So these people proudly wore the name Christian, These followers

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<v Speaker 2>of the Way proudly wore the name Christian, even though

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<v Speaker 2>it was a mocking title. I wonder how many of

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<v Speaker 2>us are willing to wear this mocking, negative title today proudly.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of us try to hide the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>we're Christians. I had one a friend of mine tell

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<v Speaker 2>me he was an undercover Christian. Es, that's what he's

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<v Speaker 2>at work. I don't tell people I'm Christian. I'm an

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<v Speaker 2>undercover Christian. I'm like, there's no such thing as an

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<v Speaker 2>undercovered Christian, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm pretty sure you're supposed to not be exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But they proudly wore this mocking name, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important for us to be willing to do the same.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I always tell people I'm a Christian before I tell

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<v Speaker 3>them of a pastor.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh me too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I first of all, I never tell people I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>pastor because people act differently around me.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they won't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you're not a prastor, man, Come on, you're not

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<v Speaker 3>even in shade, right.

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<v Speaker 4>But no, but you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And then finally, when people sort of do corner me

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<v Speaker 3>in this in the conversation becomes spiritual. If they don't

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<v Speaker 3>know me at all, I'll just say, oh yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a Christian because they carried it should carry more weight, yes, right,

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<v Speaker 3>as opposed to him, I'm a pastor, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's doctor Chris Zarball to you.

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<v Speaker 2>So so then they start to see, they start to

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<v Speaker 2>see while God is doing great things among the gentiles,

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<v Speaker 2>this is good news. And Barnabas says, you know what

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<v Speaker 4>And so.

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<v Speaker 2>Barnabas goes on to Tarsus to find Saul. Remember Saul,

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<v Speaker 2>we just saw several chapters ago. Saul has this encounter

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<v Speaker 2>Pharisee of pharisees. He was at least if not a

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<v Speaker 2>to the Sanhedron. Right. He was at Stephen's first at

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<v Speaker 4>And did you mention he's a Roman citizen.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, he's a Roman citizen, Roman citizen.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a big deal. And he's a Jew and a

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and he's living in But remember he had to

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<v Speaker 2>away because the Christians were not the Christians. The people

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<v Speaker 2>in Damascus were so angry that Saul had become a

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<v Speaker 2>of his preaching, and so he has to escape, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible says he went back to Tarsus. Now we

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<v Speaker 2>know he also spent three years in the deserts of Arabia.

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<v Speaker 2>Galatians tells us that where Jesus had taught him all things,

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<v Speaker 2>first big ministry opportunity, and Barnabas says, hey, I need

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<v Speaker 2>lead this ministry. I need somebody to serve alongside and

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<v Speaker 3>So Acts chapter nine and Act chapter eleven, it could

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<v Speaker 3>Which is where Paul received Christ and he met Christ,

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<v Speaker 3>to this time that we're taking up here sometime.

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<v Speaker 4>A d.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a great lesson because for those of us

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<v Speaker 3>who who think that we're ready for leadership right away,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that we're we just want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>take take the reins even.

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<v Speaker 4>Though that we don't pay the dues, right, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And then here's Paul, you know, who's not even Paul yet, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and he's several years into it, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>starting off as a helper.

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<v Speaker 4>He's working in the mail room right with Barnabas.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's something to be said about that. You pay

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<v Speaker 2>your dues, you do the work. So you ask what

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<v Speaker 2>was Paul doing. Paul was preparing, right, he says, Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>was teaching him. Clearly, he would have kept on with

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<v Speaker 2>his responsibilities and his duties of studying the word and

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<v Speaker 2>sharing the gospel. But it was in a localized context,

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<v Speaker 2>not a world famous context at this point. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>where greatness. Uh, that's where greatness is cultivated. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>cultivated on the stage in front of people. It's cultivated

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<v Speaker 2>in those private moments when nobody's looking. Right, that the

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<v Speaker 2>measure of your character is who you are when nobody's looking.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's what we see in Paul. So

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<v Speaker 2>Barnabas goes, the son of his couragement goes, I need

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<v Speaker 2>this guy kind help me.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul, Saul, you know, not only is that a lesson

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<v Speaker 3>for for young leaders to say, hey, you have to

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<v Speaker 3>pay your dues. You have to you know, you have

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<v Speaker 3>to work your way up. But it's also a lesson

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<v Speaker 3>for uh, season leaders that you should not place anybody

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<v Speaker 3>who's who's not ready into a big position.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. I mean, you know, I've seen.

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<v Speaker 3>People take over entire huge church organizations without even a

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<v Speaker 3>Bible degree, right, and uh, and that didn't go very well. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like I've so I've seen it, I've witnessed it.

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<v Speaker 3>And and when that happens for season leaders, it's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>this this is a great example. God did this on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>God got you know, because Paul, you know, was as Saul,

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<v Speaker 3>a fantastic leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and incredibly talented. Yes right, it was incredibly talented.

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<v Speaker 2>But sometimes we can seize talent when they're when they're

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<v Speaker 2>not seasoned yet, right, when their character hasn't caught up

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<v Speaker 2>to their talent.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly right, that's exactly what that is. Their character,

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<v Speaker 3>their faith, their maturity, their life lessons through faith has

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<v Speaker 3>to catch up with with the talent that they have.

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<v Speaker 2>So then the first thing that they do is they

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<v Speaker 2>find out that there's going to be this famine in Jerusalem,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the main purpose of prophecy is not for

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<v Speaker 2>own benefit to know what's coming in the future, but

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<v Speaker 2>rather to inspire us to do the works of God.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Agabus says, there's going to be this famine,

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<v Speaker 2>and Paul and Barnabas move in and begin to collect

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<v Speaker 2>these resources from the people and prosperous people in Ania

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<v Speaker 2>to help out the people in Jerusalem. That's that whole

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<v Speaker 2>joke we made yesterday about you know, helping a brother out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what Barnabas did, This son of encouragement decided he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to leverage this for his own benefit, but

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to take every opportunity to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to provide for the people who were going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in need. And I think that it's incredibly important our

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<v Speaker 2>first acts of leadership should always be service. Right, Servant

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<v Speaker 2>leadership is where where it's really at in the Christian perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>and we see that in Paul and Barnabas.

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<v Speaker 4>That's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, hey, I think that's a really good place to

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<v Speaker 3>wrap up, and we will see you next time on

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>H