1 00:00:01,502 --> 00:00:02,902 All right, so here we go. 2 00:00:02,902 --> 00:00:06,764 Welcome to another edition of the Fuzz and Barrels podcast. 3 00:00:06,804 --> 00:00:08,525 I'm your host, Bobby Roberts. 4 00:00:08,525 --> 00:00:11,907 And today we have a very special guest. 5 00:00:12,227 --> 00:00:16,790 He's originally from Seoul, Korea. 6 00:00:18,171 --> 00:00:19,031 Just kidding. 7 00:00:19,031 --> 00:00:20,272 He's a good friend of mine. 8 00:00:20,272 --> 00:00:24,094 He's originally from Radcliffe, Kentucky. 9 00:00:24,114 --> 00:00:26,995 I don't know if he's originally from there, but that's where I met him at. 10 00:00:26,995 --> 00:00:30,057 He now resides in Barrington, Illinois. 11 00:00:30,057 --> 00:00:31,037 He is a 12 00:00:31,062 --> 00:00:37,909 financial services specialist, a CPA, please welcome to today's podcast, a 13 00:00:37,909 --> 00:00:39,752 special guest, Mr. 14 00:00:39,752 --> 00:00:41,713 David Robbins. 15 00:00:42,858 --> 00:00:47,293 the 16 00:00:47,394 --> 00:00:48,359 is an honor. 17 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:49,570 There you go. 18 00:00:49,570 --> 00:00:54,873 So this is gonna be a little bit off the chain because Dave and I go way back. 19 00:00:54,873 --> 00:00:58,375 We probably met, I don't know, seventh, fifth grade, something like that, in 20 00:00:58,375 --> 00:00:59,575 middle school. 21 00:00:59,756 --> 00:01:04,638 And we've actually been friends ever since, worked together for a period of 22 00:01:04,638 --> 00:01:05,539 time. 23 00:01:06,219 --> 00:01:09,721 He's bouncing around right now on the camera, it looks like, so he doesn't know 24 00:01:09,721 --> 00:01:13,183 how to set up something steady, which is not surprising. 25 00:01:13,463 --> 00:01:17,686 But we've known each other now for, I don't know. 26 00:01:17,686 --> 00:01:20,629 Long time, 40 years probably, so not to date each other. 27 00:01:20,629 --> 00:01:22,692 So I don't mean date that way. 28 00:01:22,692 --> 00:01:24,915 I meant date as in how old we are. 29 00:01:24,915 --> 00:01:26,557 But so there you go. 30 00:01:26,557 --> 00:01:30,741 So Dave, how are things in Barrington? 31 00:01:31,139 --> 00:01:31,679 Oh, 32 00:01:33,921 --> 00:01:37,745 you know, mid fifties and that's really good in February in this area of Chicago 33 00:01:37,745 --> 00:01:38,005 land. 34 00:01:38,005 --> 00:01:42,250 But, you know, the people, you know, people say we're in the Midwest, but I 35 00:01:42,250 --> 00:01:44,392 told them that technically we're not. 36 00:01:44,413 --> 00:01:48,097 But the Midwest spring is coming and it's usually last for a day. 37 00:01:48,097 --> 00:01:50,219 And then next thing you know, it's 80 degrees in the summertime. 38 00:01:50,219 --> 00:01:52,622 So I'm just hoping the snow stays the way. 39 00:01:52,622 --> 00:01:54,984 We really haven't had much snow, so it's been really nice. 40 00:01:55,678 --> 00:01:59,519 Yeah, you know, that's interesting that you say that they call it the Midwest. 41 00:01:59,579 --> 00:02:02,320 They think Kentucky where I'm at right now is the South. 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:07,401 So a lot of my work colleagues, you know, they're up in places like, you know, 43 00:02:07,401 --> 00:02:10,222 people think I do baseball for a living, you know, baseball is what I love to do, 44 00:02:10,222 --> 00:02:11,683 but I actually have a real job. 45 00:02:11,683 --> 00:02:15,644 But a lot of my colleagues are up in, you know, the real Northeast, like New York 46 00:02:15,644 --> 00:02:16,464 and things like that. 47 00:02:16,464 --> 00:02:18,705 And so they think that Kentucky is nice and warm. 48 00:02:18,705 --> 00:02:20,965 And they say, they say I'm in the South. 49 00:02:20,998 --> 00:02:26,523 So while it's more southern than they are, we still get all the all the all the those 50 00:02:26,863 --> 00:02:32,009 the seasons here I should say and so today it was rainy but yesterday it was 72 51 00:02:32,009 --> 00:02:36,653 degrees which I'll take that all day long in February, right? 52 00:02:36,653 --> 00:02:36,899 Now 53 00:02:36,899 --> 00:02:40,501 like I know your thing is about baseball and you know I've got a lot of friends 54 00:02:40,501 --> 00:02:43,864 here and at the gym I go to I do crossfit in the mornings and there's a lot of 55 00:02:43,864 --> 00:02:44,704 baseball. 56 00:02:44,717 --> 00:02:47,398 mom and dad's in there and they're already talking about because the kids are getting 57 00:02:47,398 --> 00:02:50,580 out and this is like perfect because they're like how great it is for the kids 58 00:02:50,580 --> 00:02:53,661 to be able to get outside and play a little bit of baseball. 59 00:02:54,002 --> 00:02:58,464 I'll never forget for my son, he played a little bit of baseball as a youth and 60 00:02:58,624 --> 00:03:03,747 going out there and he's wearing a full-on winter coat and he's six years old and I'm 61 00:03:03,747 --> 00:03:05,928 like, there's no way he's enjoying this. 62 00:03:05,928 --> 00:03:08,710 I'm like, of course I'm not enjoying it. 63 00:03:08,710 --> 00:03:12,892 I coached for a while and just sitting there thinking about this crazy weather 64 00:03:12,892 --> 00:03:13,605 and how 65 00:03:13,605 --> 00:03:17,646 We just have to go indoors or we just have to wait to be playing baseball or just 66 00:03:17,646 --> 00:03:19,866 getting outside for any sport because it's that weather. 67 00:03:19,866 --> 00:03:22,787 It's like the kids are just so disinterested and they're too cold. 68 00:03:22,787 --> 00:03:27,869 And I don't, now my son is like 19 years old and I kind of miss those days. 69 00:03:27,869 --> 00:03:30,570 But then again, I don't because of our crazy weather here. 70 00:03:30,570 --> 00:03:33,551 And it's really, I, for the most part, I love the sports. 71 00:03:33,551 --> 00:03:34,691 I love getting outside. 72 00:03:34,691 --> 00:03:39,052 But when you have the winters that we have here in the, in the Midwest or in 73 00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:40,252 Chicagoland. 74 00:03:40,425 --> 00:03:43,787 It's not enjoyable because it usually doesn't get nice until probably late 75 00:03:43,787 --> 00:03:44,107 April. 76 00:03:44,107 --> 00:03:45,948 That's when you can kind of count on it. 77 00:03:46,648 --> 00:03:50,210 But usually sports start up late February, early March. 78 00:03:50,210 --> 00:03:55,073 So I spent many days in the stands or on the sidelines, freezing, you know, winter 79 00:03:55,073 --> 00:03:55,433 coats. 80 00:03:55,433 --> 00:03:59,776 I used to have my whole back in my car with three, four coats, extra jackets, 81 00:03:59,776 --> 00:04:04,498 extra pants, hoodies, hats, gloves. 82 00:04:04,498 --> 00:04:05,819 I had all that stuff. 83 00:04:05,819 --> 00:04:08,705 And it's kind of nice now because now my back in my car is a gym bag. 84 00:04:08,705 --> 00:04:12,560 and golf clubs believe it or not because I've been playing in indoor golf league. 85 00:04:12,986 --> 00:04:20,894 Wow, so um you hit on a bunch of stuff right there so first off So how so your 86 00:04:20,894 --> 00:04:24,397 son that was 19 now, and he didn't play baseball and you coached 87 00:04:24,693 --> 00:04:25,313 I did. 88 00:04:25,313 --> 00:04:25,633 I did. 89 00:04:25,633 --> 00:04:29,956 And I have, it's funny because he tried out for travel ball and it just wasn't his 90 00:04:29,956 --> 00:04:30,316 thing. 91 00:04:30,316 --> 00:04:32,777 And, you know, looking back, I was kind of happy about it. 92 00:04:32,777 --> 00:04:34,338 But then I was sad because he didn't make it. 93 00:04:34,338 --> 00:04:36,439 But then he was like, I'm going to work at it. 94 00:04:36,439 --> 00:04:38,660 And I was his coach and we did a rec ball one more year. 95 00:04:38,660 --> 00:04:39,701 And we had a lot of fun. 96 00:04:39,701 --> 00:04:42,583 We had, I was with a couple of dads and I'm really good friends with them now. 97 00:04:42,583 --> 00:04:44,403 Like one of them is actually my doctor. 98 00:04:44,404 --> 00:04:49,326 And we, they do like a little draft, which was kind of kind of fun to do it because 99 00:04:49,326 --> 00:04:52,728 you rank the kids, there's like a tryout and then you do a draft between all these 100 00:04:52,728 --> 00:04:53,673 dads. 101 00:04:53,673 --> 00:04:56,394 And we felt like we had a stacked squad. 102 00:04:56,394 --> 00:04:58,575 And I think, I want to say this is like third grade. 103 00:04:58,575 --> 00:05:02,958 And it's funny to look back because a couple of those kids, they're not playing 104 00:05:02,958 --> 00:05:04,939 in college or anything, but they're really good athletes. 105 00:05:04,939 --> 00:05:06,780 And they did really good at the high school. 106 00:05:06,780 --> 00:05:07,961 And a couple of them just graduated. 107 00:05:07,961 --> 00:05:09,782 My son was a year older than them. 108 00:05:09,782 --> 00:05:13,504 And like one of the kids, his dad was a coach. 109 00:05:13,504 --> 00:05:16,185 He was like a star receiver for the football team. 110 00:05:16,185 --> 00:05:18,647 And well, I guess he's a senior right now. 111 00:05:18,647 --> 00:05:19,787 So the baseball season is coming up. 112 00:05:19,787 --> 00:05:21,188 So we'll see what he does. 113 00:05:21,873 --> 00:05:25,456 But it was a lot of fun, you know, doing that kind of stuff and being involved in 114 00:05:25,456 --> 00:05:25,936 baseball. 115 00:05:25,936 --> 00:05:28,459 And I was a coach, you know, standing there on the sidelines. 116 00:05:28,459 --> 00:05:32,523 And it was just, those are the best memories as a father, you know, standing 117 00:05:32,523 --> 00:05:33,223 there with your kid. 118 00:05:33,223 --> 00:05:35,926 And, you know, everybody thinks their kid's going to turn into something. 119 00:05:35,926 --> 00:05:39,810 And you have these outside hopes that, you know, maybe they'll play in college. 120 00:05:39,810 --> 00:05:42,793 And I know you're lucky enough that your son's going to play college baseball. 121 00:05:42,793 --> 00:05:47,236 And that's really fun as a father to kind of watch your kid do that kind of stuff. 122 00:05:47,683 --> 00:05:49,444 You know, it really is. 123 00:05:49,444 --> 00:05:53,286 And you know, I'm just thinking back, you know, there's a lot of things, you know, 124 00:05:53,286 --> 00:05:55,007 my son's a junior in high school. 125 00:05:55,007 --> 00:05:58,069 And you think back at a lot of these things. 126 00:05:58,069 --> 00:06:03,172 And you know, those are the memories that we're going to have really in our family 127 00:06:03,172 --> 00:06:04,713 is just all the travel ball stuff. 128 00:06:04,713 --> 00:06:06,153 But you know, I 129 00:06:06,250 --> 00:06:08,831 It's a lot, it costs a lot, there's a lot of sacrifice. 130 00:06:08,831 --> 00:06:10,892 I haven't taken like a real vacation. 131 00:06:10,892 --> 00:06:12,953 Like you always make fun of me, you're taking all these vacations. 132 00:06:12,953 --> 00:06:18,915 And I'm like, my vacation is somewhere, is in Lake Point, which baseball people that 133 00:06:18,915 --> 00:06:21,297 are listening to this, they know exactly what Lake Point is. 134 00:06:21,297 --> 00:06:23,838 Or, you know, it's at the WWBA, perfect game. 135 00:06:23,838 --> 00:06:25,118 They know exactly what that is. 136 00:06:25,118 --> 00:06:28,040 I know that you probably don't, but you know, some big tournaments down in 137 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,162 Georgia, but you know, that's my life and I wouldn't do it any other way. 138 00:06:32,162 --> 00:06:35,483 But so back when you were coaching, I know that you mentioned that a couple of the 139 00:06:35,483 --> 00:06:36,144 kids 140 00:06:36,144 --> 00:06:38,069 playing baseball and some other sports. 141 00:06:38,069 --> 00:06:42,962 So I know they were at a young age, but even at that younger age when you were 142 00:06:42,962 --> 00:06:44,610 coaching, could you like... 143 00:06:44,610 --> 00:06:48,513 just see the mannerisms of the kids and even though it was baseball but just see 144 00:06:48,513 --> 00:06:53,678 how they were reacting to athletics in general and you could kind of like say 145 00:06:53,678 --> 00:06:56,741 okay this kid's probably going to be something this kid's probably going to be 146 00:06:56,741 --> 00:07:00,384 something this kid probably needs to start you know playing chess and get really good 147 00:07:00,384 --> 00:07:03,787 at that because i don't think athletics is going to be good for him did you could you 148 00:07:03,787 --> 00:07:06,669 see that on these kids at an early age do you think 149 00:07:06,909 --> 00:07:07,509 Oh, 100%. 150 00:07:07,509 --> 00:07:11,590 I mean, you knew the kids that were really into sports at a young age. 151 00:07:11,590 --> 00:07:14,391 And the kids, like my son was really into sports. 152 00:07:14,391 --> 00:07:15,431 He's really focused. 153 00:07:15,431 --> 00:07:19,332 And, you know, even playing baseball as a first or second grader, he was the type of 154 00:07:19,332 --> 00:07:20,697 kid that paid attention. 155 00:07:20,697 --> 00:07:24,239 you know, wanted to make the play and you know, sometimes he would, he would field 156 00:07:24,239 --> 00:07:27,421 the ball and like the first baseman is just not there and not paying attention. 157 00:07:27,421 --> 00:07:28,982 And I said, you got to throw it. 158 00:07:29,042 --> 00:07:30,924 I said, you throw it, you do your job. 159 00:07:30,924 --> 00:07:32,044 The kid needs to pay attention. 160 00:07:32,044 --> 00:07:35,887 So yeah, we definitely had some kids that were really into it. 161 00:07:35,887 --> 00:07:39,189 And like the one kid that I'm thinking about that's the senior right now and the 162 00:07:39,189 --> 00:07:42,492 really good athlete that was on the football team, he was way into it. 163 00:07:42,492 --> 00:07:44,813 And this was a, the kid is kind of funny. 164 00:07:45,094 --> 00:07:48,376 Um, because looking back, he showed up first time I ever seen the kid. 165 00:07:48,376 --> 00:07:49,497 This was flag football. 166 00:07:49,497 --> 00:07:52,058 He had goggles on, like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar goggles. 167 00:07:52,058 --> 00:07:53,598 And I'm like, who is this kid? 168 00:07:53,598 --> 00:07:55,099 And then we started playing a little football. 169 00:07:55,099 --> 00:07:57,140 I'm like, wow, this kid's a great athlete. 170 00:07:57,140 --> 00:07:58,660 And then now he wears contacts and all that stuff. 171 00:07:58,660 --> 00:08:02,102 But back then I just thought, man, look at this little dorky kid with glasses. 172 00:08:02,102 --> 00:08:03,802 And he just was a phenomenal athlete. 173 00:08:03,802 --> 00:08:07,064 But yeah, you could tell some kids bring it and they're just more passionate than 174 00:08:07,064 --> 00:08:07,804 others. 175 00:08:07,804 --> 00:08:10,705 And I'm sure at that young age, some kids do change. 176 00:08:10,865 --> 00:08:13,907 And there was one kid in particular that I remember that I'm like, there's just no 177 00:08:13,907 --> 00:08:15,067 way he should be out here. 178 00:08:15,067 --> 00:08:18,937 And from what I gather, he was adopted. 179 00:08:18,937 --> 00:08:22,219 His dad was like a big Michigan guy and he played football at Michigan. 180 00:08:22,219 --> 00:08:23,460 So he was like big, huge guy. 181 00:08:23,460 --> 00:08:25,422 And I just thought, man, what's, what's up with this kid? 182 00:08:25,422 --> 00:08:27,244 He's not very athletic like his dad. 183 00:08:27,244 --> 00:08:28,465 And then I found out he was adopted. 184 00:08:28,465 --> 00:08:31,547 And then, and then I have to tell you offline some other stuff that's happened 185 00:08:31,547 --> 00:08:36,111 that I've heard about him over the years, but I knew that he shouldn't be playing 186 00:08:36,111 --> 00:08:38,573 sports and he didn't go on the chess team either. 187 00:08:38,573 --> 00:08:42,596 I don't know what he did, but he, he was just, he was in the wrong element. 188 00:08:42,890 --> 00:08:46,952 You can almost tell, you know, some of the kids are twitchy and some stuff like that. 189 00:08:46,952 --> 00:08:51,654 And, you know, one of the things that I see is that a lot of these kids, which is 190 00:08:51,654 --> 00:08:57,277 really unfortunate, that you can tell from an early age that they're just a gifted 191 00:08:57,277 --> 00:08:57,958 athlete. 192 00:08:57,958 --> 00:09:03,861 And so in all those sports, when they're young, they can just show up and just play 193 00:09:03,861 --> 00:09:07,223 and be one of the best there, whether it's baseball, basketball, football, it doesn't 194 00:09:07,223 --> 00:09:08,183 matter what it is. 195 00:09:08,183 --> 00:09:11,065 They just show up and they're really good. 196 00:09:11,325 --> 00:09:12,245 And then... 197 00:09:12,310 --> 00:09:13,870 they stop working. 198 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:19,193 And so that talent will only get you so far. 199 00:09:19,193 --> 00:09:24,876 And like baseball, for instance, you pretty much, if you're a good athlete and 200 00:09:24,876 --> 00:09:28,638 you got good eye-hand coordination, you got a decent arm and all that stuff, you 201 00:09:28,638 --> 00:09:34,861 really don't have to work that hard to be good up until you get on the big field. 202 00:09:34,866 --> 00:09:38,807 And so we see a lot of kids that, you know, they were dominant when they were 203 00:09:38,807 --> 00:09:43,169 younger on these 200 foot fences using these juice bats and all this stuff. 204 00:09:43,269 --> 00:09:47,351 But then when they get on the big field, things start catching up to them. 205 00:09:47,351 --> 00:09:53,614 And you start seeing the kids that really put in the work that start passing those 206 00:09:53,614 --> 00:09:58,897 kids who had the effort because that hard work just, it almost always seems like it 207 00:09:58,897 --> 00:10:01,217 just surpasses that talent. 208 00:10:01,442 --> 00:10:02,463 when the talent doesn't work. 209 00:10:02,463 --> 00:10:04,705 I know there's some goofy phrase for that, right? 210 00:10:04,705 --> 00:10:09,270 Like, the talent that doesn't work and the hard work will pass that or whatever. 211 00:10:09,270 --> 00:10:12,292 I can't remember what it is, but it's true, right? 212 00:10:12,293 --> 00:10:16,137 You see that and you see it in almost anything. 213 00:10:16,137 --> 00:10:20,081 You see someone who's just naturally smart and you're in school and you're like, 214 00:10:20,081 --> 00:10:23,544 damn, this dude passes every freaking test and doesn't even have to study and 215 00:10:23,544 --> 00:10:24,770 everything else, but then... 216 00:10:24,770 --> 00:10:27,312 you know, he just stops doing, you know, stops learning. 217 00:10:27,312 --> 00:10:29,534 And then before you know it, he turns into an idiot like me. 218 00:10:29,534 --> 00:10:33,217 And then, you know, you go to college and you know, you're a CPA and all that stuff. 219 00:10:33,217 --> 00:10:35,399 And then like, you're smart and everything. 220 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:37,020 But, you know, it's weird. 221 00:10:37,020 --> 00:10:41,184 Like I wish that there was a way that you could, you could motivate those kids a 222 00:10:41,184 --> 00:10:44,287 little bit more, but you know, you see that all the time. 223 00:10:44,287 --> 00:10:48,190 Did you ever see any of those kids that you were talking about that were like, you 224 00:10:48,190 --> 00:10:51,533 knew that they had something, but I don't know if you followed them a lot that 225 00:10:51,533 --> 00:10:52,330 didn't really. 226 00:10:52,330 --> 00:10:55,553 continue to have any driver passion and just kind of fell off. 227 00:10:55,583 --> 00:10:58,329 Well, yeah, I think that goes on. 228 00:10:58,329 --> 00:11:01,590 in the play with just about anything in life, you know, with kids that have the 229 00:11:01,590 --> 00:11:05,972 talent and they just don't take, have that ability, whether they're smart or they're 230 00:11:05,972 --> 00:11:09,333 really good at something or really good at sports and they just don't work at it 231 00:11:09,333 --> 00:11:13,495 because like anything, any good craft I think people have to have that work ethic. 232 00:11:13,515 --> 00:11:16,936 And I say that all the time, like even about my own dad, like, you know, he might 233 00:11:16,936 --> 00:11:21,658 not have been the most talented guy or the most smart guy that you'd meet, but no one 234 00:11:21,658 --> 00:11:25,920 could outwork my dad and my dad has like the best work ethic and it was always kind 235 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,080 of fun to watch him because I, you know, I don't 236 00:11:28,277 --> 00:11:29,778 I don't think that I'm that smart. 237 00:11:29,778 --> 00:11:34,703 I just think that I work hard and I had to work hard at learning and studying and I 238 00:11:34,703 --> 00:11:39,387 had to study harder than maybe another guy that maybe it came a little natural to 239 00:11:39,387 --> 00:11:39,547 him. 240 00:11:39,547 --> 00:11:42,430 Over years you get experience and then you become really good at your craft. 241 00:11:42,430 --> 00:11:46,133 But I think it takes time and effort no matter what it is, whether it's sports or 242 00:11:46,133 --> 00:11:46,914 your career. 243 00:11:46,914 --> 00:11:50,778 Just like you, you could say something about not being smart or whatever, but I 244 00:11:50,778 --> 00:11:54,353 don't know anybody that doesn't work as hard as you do and can figure things out. 245 00:11:54,353 --> 00:11:58,075 like you do and I've always said that about you to even my kids and my friends 246 00:11:58,075 --> 00:12:01,798 and I'm like, Bobby figured stuff out, like even the TikTok thing, you figured it 247 00:12:01,798 --> 00:12:06,421 out and you know, I just know that when you and I worked together and you were in 248 00:12:06,421 --> 00:12:09,963 that one room by yourself, you know, starting the company from scratch and I 249 00:12:09,963 --> 00:12:12,926 was over there doing accounting, I was like, he's gonna figure it out and you 250 00:12:12,926 --> 00:12:13,306 did. 251 00:12:13,306 --> 00:12:17,529 And we had like, we had a big company and we were doing great things and that was a 252 00:12:17,529 --> 00:12:18,049 lot of fun. 253 00:12:18,049 --> 00:12:21,271 We made a lot of good friends and a lot of good memories and it got me out of my 254 00:12:21,271 --> 00:12:22,732 shell from just being a. 255 00:12:23,077 --> 00:12:26,639 basic accounting guy sitting in a cubicle thinking this is what my life is going to 256 00:12:26,639 --> 00:12:31,302 be working for somebody else to make me really think about, you know, what's it 257 00:12:31,302 --> 00:12:35,445 like to be personable, you learn a little bit about sales, you know, dealing with 258 00:12:35,445 --> 00:12:40,989 people and I learned all those things under you at the APB and it was like those 259 00:12:40,989 --> 00:12:44,431 were great years and you know, a lot of things that I look back and I think, I 260 00:12:44,431 --> 00:12:47,033 don't think if I did that I would be doing what I'm doing today, you know, owning my 261 00:12:47,033 --> 00:12:50,355 own company and you know, there's just eight of us but you know, I've got eight 262 00:12:50,355 --> 00:12:52,356 people that rely on me for jobs. 263 00:12:52,821 --> 00:12:55,401 I'm one of the eight, but that's pretty neat. 264 00:12:55,401 --> 00:13:01,383 And I've got almost 2,000 clients that come to us and that's really neat to, and 265 00:13:01,383 --> 00:13:05,464 you're one of my clients, it's fun to do this kind of stuff and be in this kind of 266 00:13:05,464 --> 00:13:09,965 industry and going back to the whole sports thing, I've got a couple clients 267 00:13:09,965 --> 00:13:13,966 that are in the minor leagues right now and that's kind of fun to text with them 268 00:13:13,966 --> 00:13:18,688 and see what their journey's like and even see like their W-2, see what they're 269 00:13:18,688 --> 00:13:19,228 making. 270 00:13:19,228 --> 00:13:21,248 It's like, wow, that's kind of cool. 271 00:13:21,581 --> 00:13:22,501 It's just interesting. 272 00:13:22,501 --> 00:13:23,942 So it's fun to be on this side. 273 00:13:23,942 --> 00:13:27,224 And at the end of the day, going back to what we're saying, it's like, you got to, 274 00:13:27,224 --> 00:13:28,664 no matter what it is, people got to work. 275 00:13:28,664 --> 00:13:31,306 You can't just be a natural talented person. 276 00:13:31,306 --> 00:13:34,088 Cause even someone like LeBron James, he works. 277 00:13:34,088 --> 00:13:37,249 He's got to work hard to keep playing at the level he's playing. 278 00:13:37,249 --> 00:13:39,350 Even today, he's got to work, work. 279 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:40,471 I mean, you see these videos. 280 00:13:40,471 --> 00:13:44,493 I saw a video showing about Christian McCaffrey and what he puts his body 281 00:13:44,493 --> 00:13:45,174 through. 282 00:13:45,174 --> 00:13:48,516 It's insane, but that's why he's like the best running back in the NFL. 283 00:13:48,516 --> 00:13:50,616 I mean, because he works hard. 284 00:13:51,274 --> 00:13:51,714 He does. 285 00:13:51,714 --> 00:13:53,816 I mean, like LeBron James is like 60 years old. 286 00:13:53,816 --> 00:13:55,597 He's been like through four hair transplants. 287 00:13:55,597 --> 00:13:56,878 I mean, he still does. 288 00:13:56,878 --> 00:13:59,840 I mean, the guy like dominates, right? 289 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,582 Like it's unbelievable. 290 00:14:01,582 --> 00:14:05,105 And you know, just all the stuff that these guys go through and like these 291 00:14:05,105 --> 00:14:07,046 athletes catch all kinds of hell sometimes. 292 00:14:07,046 --> 00:14:09,548 It's like they got to take a day off and this and that. 293 00:14:09,548 --> 00:14:12,270 Oh my God, they're, you know, they get paid all this stuff and they're going to 294 00:14:12,270 --> 00:14:12,831 take a day off. 295 00:14:12,831 --> 00:14:14,412 Do you know how hard it is? 296 00:14:14,412 --> 00:14:17,114 Like if you've ever been to an NBA basketball game, right? 297 00:14:17,114 --> 00:14:18,796 Like we all play basketball. 298 00:14:18,796 --> 00:14:21,157 Well, you go to an NBA basketball game. 299 00:14:21,170 --> 00:14:24,753 And these guys, they don't look like they're even trying a lot of times, but 300 00:14:24,753 --> 00:14:27,555 like, there's these guys are like superhuman. 301 00:14:27,555 --> 00:14:29,817 They're twice as big as me and you combined. 302 00:14:29,817 --> 00:14:33,520 And like you just look at the at the lane where someone's going to drive into. 303 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,821 There's nowhere to go. 304 00:14:34,821 --> 00:14:36,342 They're so big and so long. 305 00:14:36,342 --> 00:14:38,144 And so why do you keep just drive in? 306 00:14:38,144 --> 00:14:41,727 I mean, it is hard and it's a physical game, but, you know, it's crazy. 307 00:14:41,727 --> 00:14:45,349 But you were talking about, you know, back in our in our work days. 308 00:14:45,794 --> 00:14:48,875 And you brought up that, I totally forgot about sitting in that, I mean, I didn't 309 00:14:48,875 --> 00:14:52,697 even have, when we started that company, I was just sitting in a conference room. 310 00:14:52,697 --> 00:14:54,037 I didn't even have an office. 311 00:14:54,037 --> 00:14:57,399 And I took, and I don't, and you'll probably remember this, but I took out a, 312 00:14:57,399 --> 00:14:58,819 it was a flip chart. 313 00:14:58,979 --> 00:15:04,582 And I, and I did a map of where, an organizational chart of where I wanted 314 00:15:04,582 --> 00:15:05,763 that company to go. 315 00:15:05,763 --> 00:15:09,284 And it was like four regions, and all over Florida, and all over Texas, and all over 316 00:15:09,284 --> 00:15:12,734 this, and it was an org chart, and it was taped on the back of that door. 317 00:15:12,734 --> 00:15:15,735 And anytime I'd interview someone, I'd say, hey, here's the blueprint of the 318 00:15:15,735 --> 00:15:16,456 company. 319 00:15:16,456 --> 00:15:20,718 If you come on and you kick ass, you can put your name on this chart wherever you 320 00:15:20,718 --> 00:15:22,559 want it and we're going to grow it. 321 00:15:22,699 --> 00:15:25,741 And it was funny and I'm not going to name their names, but you can think about the 322 00:15:25,741 --> 00:15:27,082 first people that we hired. 323 00:15:27,082 --> 00:15:29,243 We're still friends with every one of them today. 324 00:15:29,263 --> 00:15:33,925 All that became VPs and it was like, you know, everything we talked about, you 325 00:15:33,925 --> 00:15:38,408 know, happened and you know, we had some unfortunate circumstances with financial 326 00:15:38,408 --> 00:15:39,529 crisis and all that stuff. 327 00:15:39,529 --> 00:15:41,469 But you know, at the end of the day. 328 00:15:41,526 --> 00:15:45,650 We all, I mean, not that financially, it didn't really affect us that much because 329 00:15:45,650 --> 00:15:46,611 we got out and all that other stuff. 330 00:15:46,611 --> 00:15:51,036 But the thing was is that everybody there learned, I mean, did you ever think when 331 00:15:51,036 --> 00:15:56,202 you were going, when you were doing your CPA stuff, that you would ever be in a job 332 00:15:56,202 --> 00:16:01,067 interview and someone would pick up, and this is from our buddy Fazz, I'm not gonna 333 00:16:01,067 --> 00:16:03,309 say his whole name, he wouldn't care, but. 334 00:16:03,598 --> 00:16:07,441 I still remember when we got together many years later, he told the story about when 335 00:16:07,441 --> 00:16:14,207 you interviewed him, you took out a crushed Coke can that was in the garbage, 336 00:16:14,207 --> 00:16:17,010 and you put it on the desk and you said, sell me this. 337 00:16:17,010 --> 00:16:18,511 You made him do that. 338 00:16:18,511 --> 00:16:22,334 Could you ever imagine that you would be interviewing somebody in your career when 339 00:16:22,334 --> 00:16:26,078 you were taking the CPA exam where you took a crushed Coke can out and said, hey, 340 00:16:26,078 --> 00:16:28,940 sell me this and see if you can sell, then maybe we'll give you a job. 341 00:16:28,940 --> 00:16:30,709 Did you ever think that you would do that? 342 00:16:30,709 --> 00:16:33,982 No, there's no way, but that's because I learned it from you when you said, you see 343 00:16:33,982 --> 00:16:36,169 this pen, sell this to me. 344 00:16:36,251 --> 00:16:36,510 And then. 345 00:16:36,510 --> 00:16:40,412 And that's like famous now in like Wolf of Wall Street or whatever movie that's on. 346 00:16:40,412 --> 00:16:43,033 We were doing that shit back before it was cool, man. 347 00:16:43,033 --> 00:16:45,815 Like I was wearing those crazy socks before it was cool. 348 00:16:45,815 --> 00:16:47,956 Hell, we invented Twitter, remember that? 349 00:16:48,717 --> 00:16:52,559 We did something on the phone where we were doing text messages before that even 350 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:53,599 existed. 351 00:16:54,460 --> 00:16:57,452 Yeah, we set up like AOL Instant Messenger or something. 352 00:16:57,452 --> 00:17:00,814 had installed that on our phones and we were messaging and we had all kinds of 353 00:17:00,814 --> 00:17:03,916 stuff going on so we didn't even know what we were doing back then. 354 00:17:04,076 --> 00:17:05,857 See, that's why we're not that smart, man. 355 00:17:05,857 --> 00:17:08,179 We were sitting there past, we let this thing pass right by us. 356 00:17:08,179 --> 00:17:10,898 We could have been saying, man, we should turn this into something. 357 00:17:10,898 --> 00:17:13,520 I know Elon Musk would be interviewing me right now man. 358 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,682 I'd probably be Tesla or something. 359 00:17:15,682 --> 00:17:19,325 I don't know man but oh my gosh that's some good time. 360 00:17:19,365 --> 00:17:22,068 So let's go back a couple steps here. 361 00:17:22,068 --> 00:17:27,593 So you had said you were coaching baseball and then your son was playing and then he 362 00:17:27,593 --> 00:17:30,956 was looking at travel ball and stuff and then I don't know maybe baseball wasn't 363 00:17:30,956 --> 00:17:34,760 his thing like he wasn't I mean not everyone's good at baseball it's hard to 364 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,381 be right so he's 365 00:17:36,726 --> 00:17:42,148 He was a heck of a fielder, he was fast, he was a defensive player. 366 00:17:42,389 --> 00:17:46,091 And when it came to hitting, he just didn't practice enough. 367 00:17:46,091 --> 00:17:49,332 I mean, he was in third grade and he just didn't think that, he just thought it came 368 00:17:49,332 --> 00:17:50,273 natural. 369 00:17:51,213 --> 00:17:52,574 And he didn't realize how hard it was. 370 00:17:52,574 --> 00:17:55,636 And as the kids got a little older, even though it's third grade, the ball was 371 00:17:55,636 --> 00:17:57,116 going a little bit faster. 372 00:17:57,469 --> 00:18:00,631 And I told him, I said, let's work on it and let's just figure out if you're gonna 373 00:18:00,631 --> 00:18:00,791 do it. 374 00:18:00,791 --> 00:18:02,892 And he just, he's playing too many sports at the time. 375 00:18:02,892 --> 00:18:09,096 And he, and he's a hardworking kid now, especially with the studies and, but he 376 00:18:09,096 --> 00:18:10,677 just didn't really work that hard at it. 377 00:18:10,677 --> 00:18:12,438 The only sport he ever worked at was soccer. 378 00:18:12,438 --> 00:18:16,140 When he made a transition over to soccer, he would be in the backyard doing it. 379 00:18:16,140 --> 00:18:17,641 And he just didn't do that with baseball. 380 00:18:17,641 --> 00:18:20,783 So that's where I think the passion came and he started realizing, oh, I'm a little 381 00:18:20,783 --> 00:18:22,604 bit more passionate about soccer. 382 00:18:22,764 --> 00:18:24,104 And at some point he's. 383 00:18:24,209 --> 00:18:28,833 flipped the switch and went 100% to soccer and he played that for, I don't know, 384 00:18:28,833 --> 00:18:29,994 seven, eight years. 385 00:18:29,994 --> 00:18:33,236 And, you know, I did a lot of coaching there and then he played travel soccer and 386 00:18:33,236 --> 00:18:37,120 that's where I wasn't the coach because the travel soccer here is like real paid 387 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:38,060 coaches. 388 00:18:38,401 --> 00:18:41,484 But I did indoor soccer with him and it was a lot of fun. 389 00:18:41,484 --> 00:18:47,469 So those days were a lot of fun and, you know, he was a really good athlete and he 390 00:18:47,469 --> 00:18:48,770 could have done something with it. 391 00:18:48,770 --> 00:18:51,752 But in the long run, you know, that's probably... 392 00:18:52,013 --> 00:18:53,373 You know, he's got the bad DNA. 393 00:18:53,373 --> 00:18:58,475 He's got me, you know, I'm just an average sports guy that was okay at some sports in 394 00:18:58,475 --> 00:19:02,536 high school and, you know, play some intramurals and, you know, beat you in 395 00:19:02,536 --> 00:19:04,657 intramural soccer and became the champion. 396 00:19:04,657 --> 00:19:05,478 That's, that's all. 397 00:19:05,478 --> 00:19:11,660 That's my, that's my biggest memory of college was being the intramural champion 398 00:19:11,660 --> 00:19:13,700 and you, you were the goalie and we beat you. 399 00:19:14,182 --> 00:19:15,123 So here's a couple things. 400 00:19:15,123 --> 00:19:18,526 So first off, okay, so now that you brought that up, now I gotta bust your 401 00:19:18,526 --> 00:19:19,767 balls about something. 402 00:19:20,048 --> 00:19:25,374 Here's what I kinda heard in the whole story about the baseball, and look, I 403 00:19:25,374 --> 00:19:28,316 loved your son to death and all that stuff and everything, so. 404 00:19:29,057 --> 00:19:30,579 But here's what I heard. 405 00:19:30,579 --> 00:19:33,098 I heard that he played baseball. 406 00:19:33,098 --> 00:19:36,780 and that hitting the ball was kind of hard, which look, hitting a baseball is 407 00:19:36,780 --> 00:19:37,741 very hard to do, right? 408 00:19:37,741 --> 00:19:40,343 Hitting a round ball with a round bat is difficult. 409 00:19:40,343 --> 00:19:44,026 And then when you actually do it, you got nine people trying to get one person out. 410 00:19:44,026 --> 00:19:45,127 So it's hard to do. 411 00:19:45,447 --> 00:19:47,849 So here's what I kind of heard in that whole thing. 412 00:19:48,049 --> 00:19:53,914 People that are not very good at hitting a baseball, that's why the soccer exists, 413 00:19:53,914 --> 00:19:54,114 right? 414 00:19:54,114 --> 00:19:57,817 Because the guys who get cut from the baseball team go play soccer, is that what 415 00:19:57,817 --> 00:19:58,573 you're saying? 416 00:19:58,573 --> 00:20:00,406 No, I think they go through a lot of other things. 417 00:20:00,406 --> 00:20:02,236 I think a lot of them end up playing chess. 418 00:20:02,554 --> 00:20:10,303 Okay, yeah, all right, so I knew soccer teams existed for a reason, and now it's 419 00:20:10,303 --> 00:20:11,064 all making sense. 420 00:20:11,064 --> 00:20:14,488 The guys that got cut from the baseball team go play soccer. 421 00:20:14,529 --> 00:20:15,213 That's that. 422 00:20:15,213 --> 00:20:16,014 I don't know. 423 00:20:16,014 --> 00:20:21,678 I think I saw one of your TikToks that talked about athleticism and if you're 424 00:20:21,678 --> 00:20:24,080 good at baseball, you're probably good at a lot of sports. 425 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,344 And I would have to say that's probably pretty good because if you're a good 426 00:20:28,344 --> 00:20:33,108 athlete in general, you could probably play a lot of different sports. 427 00:20:33,108 --> 00:20:34,429 My oldest daughter played a lot of sports. 428 00:20:34,429 --> 00:20:37,211 She was a good athlete and she was able to transition a lot. 429 00:20:37,211 --> 00:20:40,674 And then my middle daughter only played soccer and she was a really good soccer 430 00:20:40,674 --> 00:20:40,954 player. 431 00:20:40,954 --> 00:20:43,657 But when it came to doing anything else, 432 00:20:43,657 --> 00:20:46,599 Especially had to do with like throwing a ball or anything. 433 00:20:46,599 --> 00:20:47,599 No, she couldn't do it. 434 00:20:47,599 --> 00:20:51,462 She was so uncoordinated She still can't throw right now and it's kind of funny, 435 00:20:51,462 --> 00:20:55,184 but she was like when it comes to her feet phenomenal she has the she had the 436 00:20:55,184 --> 00:20:59,848 greatest foot skills you would ever see in a soccer player and But that's just 437 00:20:59,848 --> 00:21:03,190 because that's all she ever did but I played I played baseball. 438 00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:08,133 The only reason I played baseball I played one season and I was in Germany and 439 00:21:08,353 --> 00:21:11,075 Because soccer for some reason they didn't have soccer. 440 00:21:11,075 --> 00:21:13,316 So my mom signed me up for this baseball team 441 00:21:13,401 --> 00:21:16,882 And the unfortunate part is back then, they realized I wasn't very good. 442 00:21:16,882 --> 00:21:19,222 So they didn't spend much time with me trying to teach me. 443 00:21:19,402 --> 00:21:25,684 And to this day, I remember I had one hit and I didn't care if I was playing or not. 444 00:21:25,684 --> 00:21:28,705 Cause I was having a fun time just being part of the team, being a dugout, doing 445 00:21:28,705 --> 00:21:30,665 all the chants or whatever we used to do. 446 00:21:30,665 --> 00:21:32,126 And we were on the best team. 447 00:21:32,126 --> 00:21:33,906 We ended up winning the championship. 448 00:21:33,926 --> 00:21:38,428 And I didn't care that I was playing or not because I just liked to win. 449 00:21:38,428 --> 00:21:41,421 So I was part of this winning team, but I did get in. 450 00:21:41,421 --> 00:21:45,184 I got this one hit, it was up the middle, it was a double, and I'll never forget it 451 00:21:45,184 --> 00:21:48,867 because I realized how hard it was to hit that baseball, but no one ever taught me 452 00:21:48,867 --> 00:21:49,887 how to do it. 453 00:21:50,868 --> 00:21:56,233 And so when I just blindly swung and hit it, it was the greatest thing ever, and 454 00:21:56,233 --> 00:21:58,294 it's a great memory of mine as a kid. 455 00:21:58,815 --> 00:22:02,238 And then, you know, we obviously played a lot of softball together and a lot of 456 00:22:02,238 --> 00:22:05,401 funny stories about softball and all that stuff, but I never really learned how to 457 00:22:05,401 --> 00:22:05,761 hit. 458 00:22:05,761 --> 00:22:09,524 So even when I played softball, obviously it's a slow moving ball, I had to kind of 459 00:22:09,524 --> 00:22:10,489 teach myself. 460 00:22:10,489 --> 00:22:13,587 And I just try to use brute strength to try to hit the heck out of that ball. 461 00:22:13,587 --> 00:22:14,932 That's all I could ever do. 462 00:22:14,970 --> 00:22:18,471 So I'm glad you brought that up because that was part of my little show notes here 463 00:22:18,471 --> 00:22:22,472 that I don't have but You know, I've never been a note-taker or anything like that I 464 00:22:22,472 --> 00:22:25,472 just start talking because if you're telling the truth and you're having fun, I 465 00:22:25,472 --> 00:22:27,493 don't I never need notes I don't take notes. 466 00:22:27,493 --> 00:22:31,314 I just that's just not me But one thing that I was definitely gonna ask you about 467 00:22:31,314 --> 00:22:35,155 I you brought up our softball So back when I when we had the company we had it, you 468 00:22:35,155 --> 00:22:38,636 know It was a co-ed softball league and I'll never forget. 469 00:22:38,636 --> 00:22:44,257 I was pretty decent and so I was hitting home runs over the fence left-handed and 470 00:22:44,830 --> 00:22:49,172 the teams got pissed and said hey you're cause you had, oh, so you had a bat 471 00:22:49,172 --> 00:22:50,552 opposite hand is what it was. 472 00:22:50,552 --> 00:22:53,914 So if you were a right handed bat, the guys had a bat opposite hand so I was a 473 00:22:53,914 --> 00:22:56,875 natural right handed hitter but I could hit both. 474 00:22:56,895 --> 00:23:00,117 So I was hitting them over left hand and then they tried to turn me around and I 475 00:23:00,117 --> 00:23:01,698 said I'll kill the third baseman. 476 00:23:01,698 --> 00:23:03,158 It was a girl playing third baseman. 477 00:23:03,158 --> 00:23:07,481 I said I'll kill her if I hit a line drive and then they turned me around, I hit one 478 00:23:07,481 --> 00:23:08,781 about 500 feet. 479 00:23:08,781 --> 00:23:09,721 But anyway. 480 00:23:10,334 --> 00:23:12,276 You played with us sometimes if I'm not mistaken. 481 00:23:12,276 --> 00:23:14,958 I don't think you played all the time, but maybe you did play all the time I can't 482 00:23:14,958 --> 00:23:18,295 remember but I don't think I don't think you did either 483 00:23:18,295 --> 00:23:22,338 if I could barely, I mean, I wasn't very good even hitting it right-handed. 484 00:23:22,338 --> 00:23:24,620 So to make me hit it left-handed, forget about it. 485 00:23:24,620 --> 00:23:26,119 There's just no way I would have hit it. 486 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:31,266 So help me remember, because maybe I misremember, but there was this one 487 00:23:31,266 --> 00:23:33,328 evening and something happened. 488 00:23:33,328 --> 00:23:34,249 I was over at your house. 489 00:23:34,249 --> 00:23:35,891 You had to do something kind of special. 490 00:23:35,891 --> 00:23:37,634 You were mowing the grass also that day. 491 00:23:37,634 --> 00:23:38,535 I can't remember what it was. 492 00:23:38,535 --> 00:23:41,498 But I know that you came out and you played with the snaffs of that night. 493 00:23:41,498 --> 00:23:44,441 Walk us through your first at bat if you don't mind. 494 00:23:45,141 --> 00:23:47,204 I don't know what you're talking about. 495 00:23:47,204 --> 00:23:49,267 So that has been some kind of... 496 00:23:51,082 --> 00:23:53,841 He's drunk out playing slow pitch softball! 497 00:23:53,841 --> 00:23:59,426 well, hey, when you never swing lefty, you're definitely gonna strike out. 498 00:23:59,426 --> 00:24:01,527 And it goes back to the whole thing of coaching. 499 00:24:01,527 --> 00:24:02,968 I had no idea what I was doing. 500 00:24:02,968 --> 00:24:05,030 I didn't even know that's what we're supposed to do. 501 00:24:05,030 --> 00:24:07,232 So I would blame you for that. 502 00:24:07,292 --> 00:24:11,575 If you would have been like, hey, Dave, we swing left-handed, you know, maybe you 503 00:24:11,575 --> 00:24:12,636 should practice a little bit. 504 00:24:12,636 --> 00:24:15,839 I probably would have been, could have been coached up, but no, you just threw me 505 00:24:15,839 --> 00:24:17,881 out there, made me look like an idiot. 506 00:24:17,881 --> 00:24:22,104 And I just remember your cackling, laughing, because that was pretty 507 00:24:22,104 --> 00:24:23,044 embarrassing. 508 00:24:23,230 --> 00:24:27,811 Well, you know so it was for those of you that don't know these co-ed, you know 509 00:24:27,811 --> 00:24:30,872 leagues They're all their beer leagues, right? 510 00:24:30,872 --> 00:24:35,153 and so everyone's drinking and all that stuff and so when Dave goes up there cuz 511 00:24:35,153 --> 00:24:38,634 I'm pretty sure you were talking smack too before You went up there cuz that's just 512 00:24:38,634 --> 00:24:40,075 what that's just what we do. 513 00:24:40,075 --> 00:24:41,015 So he's talking smack. 514 00:24:41,015 --> 00:24:44,256 He's gonna hit it farther than me I don't know what I don't I can't remember But 515 00:24:44,256 --> 00:24:47,777 anyway, he gets up there strikes out and our whole dugout we were just laying down 516 00:24:47,777 --> 00:24:50,518 the ground laughing people were spilling beer I mean 517 00:24:50,518 --> 00:24:51,319 Fantastic. 518 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:53,785 So man, those were some of the best times, you know, when you put... 519 00:24:53,785 --> 00:24:56,706 a lot of issues from that, you know, and I'm, you know, I probably should be in 520 00:24:56,706 --> 00:25:01,509 therapy for that session that just that one night it really kind of messed me up. 521 00:25:01,509 --> 00:25:02,310 But yeah, you're right. 522 00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:03,770 Those are those are great times. 523 00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:09,574 And this is a great thing about sports as a youth as an adult, you know, even today, 524 00:25:09,574 --> 00:25:12,235 they bring people together, you know, no matter what it is. 525 00:25:12,235 --> 00:25:16,277 I mean, just like the Super Bowl, you know, people are the fans of the Chiefs, 526 00:25:16,277 --> 00:25:18,058 you know, bring brings people together. 527 00:25:18,058 --> 00:25:19,539 I mean, sports are like that. 528 00:25:19,539 --> 00:25:22,320 And I miss that with my kids playing sports. 529 00:25:22,509 --> 00:25:25,651 and being around the other parents and just being a part of that because you feel 530 00:25:25,651 --> 00:25:29,374 like you're part of the team, even coaching young kids, it's great. 531 00:25:29,374 --> 00:25:30,655 There's nothing better. 532 00:25:30,715 --> 00:25:35,479 And I'm a firm believer in people being involved in something sporting because it 533 00:25:35,479 --> 00:25:36,640 teaches you a lot. 534 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,664 Because when we get to our age, even being part of teams at work, when we were 535 00:25:41,664 --> 00:25:45,708 building that company and you were building it and I joined in, it was just, 536 00:25:45,708 --> 00:25:49,050 we're part of a team and we're working toward a common goal, just like sports 537 00:25:49,050 --> 00:25:51,965 teams, they're all trying to work toward a common goal and it's kind of... 538 00:25:51,965 --> 00:25:56,008 It's a lot of fun and it brings a lot of good core values to all of us. 539 00:25:56,232 --> 00:26:02,093 And you know, I think it's, you know, teams and everything for kids growing up, 540 00:26:02,093 --> 00:26:05,594 if there's any kids listening to this or the parents that listen to it that, you 541 00:26:05,594 --> 00:26:09,376 know, are thinking about should I get my kids involved in sports or not, you know, 542 00:26:09,376 --> 00:26:13,817 I'll tell you, and you can attest to this too, and you probably still do it today. 543 00:26:14,497 --> 00:26:16,277 When we're looking to hire people. 544 00:26:16,330 --> 00:26:21,474 You know in companies and things when I would see a resume that came through that 545 00:26:21,474 --> 00:26:25,578 said, you know I would I was a collegiate athlete or I was a high school athlete or 546 00:26:25,578 --> 00:26:30,862 I was all state and I was the team Captain and all that kind of stuff That that stuff 547 00:26:30,862 --> 00:26:35,206 really went a long way with me when I was when I was hiring because I just thought 548 00:26:35,206 --> 00:26:39,470 okay Not only did this person play and compete they wanted to win. 549 00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:43,446 They were a captain, you know that goes into 550 00:26:43,446 --> 00:26:47,507 the business world into whatever career you're going into. 551 00:26:47,947 --> 00:26:51,109 Not only competing and winning, but then being part of a team. 552 00:26:51,109 --> 00:26:56,591 And so, everybody is part of a team, regardless of what you're doing. 553 00:26:56,591 --> 00:26:58,952 And that really teaches you to do that. 554 00:26:58,952 --> 00:27:02,553 Wouldn't you say that if you take a look at some of the people that you've hired 555 00:27:02,553 --> 00:27:04,054 over the years, there's been many of them. 556 00:27:04,054 --> 00:27:07,415 Not saying that they all have to be athletes and all that, some great 557 00:27:07,415 --> 00:27:11,857 employees aren't, but over time, would you say that you see some similarities in 558 00:27:11,857 --> 00:27:13,377 someone who was a great... 559 00:27:13,606 --> 00:27:15,830 athlete, team captain, etc. 560 00:27:15,932 --> 00:27:19,981 And then their level of success in their professional careers as well. 561 00:27:20,084 --> 00:27:24,305 Oh, 100% because you know, you learn the things from, you know, not only working 562 00:27:24,305 --> 00:27:30,227 and practicing and becoming better at your craft, you know, it translates perfectly 563 00:27:30,227 --> 00:27:33,948 into the work world because you already have this mindset of I want to be better 564 00:27:33,948 --> 00:27:34,885 at something. 565 00:27:34,885 --> 00:27:39,731 and then you go to work and every day you should want to be better at work. 566 00:27:39,731 --> 00:27:42,214 You should want to present the best version of yourself. 567 00:27:42,214 --> 00:27:46,440 So I think that correlates very well, you know, the sport world to the professional 568 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,120 world. 569 00:27:47,711 --> 00:27:48,391 Absolutely. 570 00:27:48,391 --> 00:27:53,815 So, now you said that after baseball you were in soccer and you were coaching 571 00:27:53,815 --> 00:27:57,537 soccer and I don't know if you just coached your son, but I think you maybe 572 00:27:57,537 --> 00:28:00,159 have coached your daughters too, but even if you didn't, I know that you've been up 573 00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:00,580 there. 574 00:28:00,580 --> 00:28:04,322 All three of your kids played sports and they played it at a high level and all 575 00:28:04,322 --> 00:28:05,042 that. 576 00:28:05,623 --> 00:28:12,408 Did you ever encounter some fans that were a little bit, let's just say, overzealous 577 00:28:12,408 --> 00:28:14,969 or maybe just flat out crazy in the stands? 578 00:28:15,617 --> 00:28:16,758 Oh, that's everybody. 579 00:28:16,758 --> 00:28:21,562 I think that's you've always seen that and we've seen crazy stuff at some of the 580 00:28:21,562 --> 00:28:24,924 games that I've been to and I remember I'll never forget one and this is actually 581 00:28:24,924 --> 00:28:29,848 the Gracie's team my middle daughter playing soccer and one of the kids got 582 00:28:29,848 --> 00:28:30,361 hurt. 583 00:28:30,361 --> 00:28:33,962 And actually what's interesting about this kid, she's playing soccer at Notre Dame 584 00:28:33,962 --> 00:28:34,263 now. 585 00:28:34,263 --> 00:28:35,683 I don't know if she's playing, but she's on the team. 586 00:28:35,683 --> 00:28:39,505 She's in Notre Dame playing soccer, but she got pushed several times and she 587 00:28:39,505 --> 00:28:44,248 finally fell and she ended up breaking her arm and we had some crazy parents just 588 00:28:44,248 --> 00:28:45,229 going crazy on the side. 589 00:28:45,229 --> 00:28:49,371 It was I think it was a grand grandparents because even after the game, they were 590 00:28:49,371 --> 00:28:53,973 like yelling at the ref like in the ref's face like and I was like, oh my gosh, it 591 00:28:53,973 --> 00:28:57,755 was so embarrassing like because they and I get it because they probably were in the 592 00:28:57,755 --> 00:28:58,416 natural instincts. 593 00:28:58,416 --> 00:29:00,176 I want to protect my grandchild. 594 00:29:00,217 --> 00:29:04,378 But you see that all the time, whether that's one example, but just people, they 595 00:29:04,378 --> 00:29:05,638 don't like a call. 596 00:29:05,698 --> 00:29:09,139 I mean, most times these people, these aren't professional referees. 597 00:29:09,139 --> 00:29:10,639 I mean, they're trying the best. 598 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,121 And it's, to me, it's a little crazy that people would yell like that. 599 00:29:15,121 --> 00:29:16,461 And I'm sure I did it. 600 00:29:16,461 --> 00:29:17,701 I'm sure I did it. 601 00:29:17,961 --> 00:29:21,282 And at some point you're just like, you're looking back, I'm like, are you, am I 602 00:29:21,282 --> 00:29:22,222 crazy? 603 00:29:22,283 --> 00:29:25,303 But I think people just become so passionate, parents become so passionate 604 00:29:25,303 --> 00:29:28,504 to watch your children, that sometimes it's hard, but that coaching from the 605 00:29:28,504 --> 00:29:29,564 sideline, 606 00:29:29,957 --> 00:29:30,858 It's terrible. 607 00:29:30,858 --> 00:29:36,803 I mean, the kids, my kids used to tell me that Grace would get so mad at me and her 608 00:29:36,803 --> 00:29:37,384 mom. 609 00:29:37,384 --> 00:29:40,727 You know, they would, she would get so mad at us for saying stuff and she would say, 610 00:29:40,727 --> 00:29:41,388 don't talk. 611 00:29:41,388 --> 00:29:44,171 Or there's been times in the game she looked at us and gave us an eye because 612 00:29:44,171 --> 00:29:45,391 we're saying something. 613 00:29:45,592 --> 00:29:49,776 And I learned, I don't know what grade or what age, but I just shut up. 614 00:29:49,776 --> 00:29:50,837 I just stopped. 615 00:29:51,225 --> 00:29:55,608 You know, here's the thing, you know, coach is coach, players play, parents 616 00:29:55,608 --> 00:29:57,468 cheer, that's what it needs to be. 617 00:29:57,909 --> 00:30:02,832 But there's those lines that get blurred just because, like you said, you're 618 00:30:02,832 --> 00:30:03,952 passionate. 619 00:30:03,952 --> 00:30:09,155 And I think, you know, it's embarrassing to the kid, right? 620 00:30:10,176 --> 00:30:13,137 And I've tried to help kids and I have not, you know... 621 00:30:13,154 --> 00:30:16,296 Part of what I do is, and I don't really do it that much anymore, but I'll try to 622 00:30:16,296 --> 00:30:19,038 help some kids fulfill their dreams and try to play in college. 623 00:30:19,038 --> 00:30:22,361 I know a lot of college coaches and all these different things, and so it's like, 624 00:30:22,361 --> 00:30:25,524 hey, I can help you out and I can tell you what to do, get videos here and there and 625 00:30:25,524 --> 00:30:26,544 all that kind of stuff. 626 00:30:26,624 --> 00:30:30,428 But I will tell you what, a couple things. 627 00:30:30,428 --> 00:30:33,010 If you're coaching from the stands, you hear it all the time, like a dad's going 628 00:30:33,010 --> 00:30:34,091 to tell the kid he's batting. 629 00:30:34,091 --> 00:30:37,734 He's like, get up in the box, get back in the box, get your arms up, all of a 630 00:30:37,734 --> 00:30:38,494 sudden. 631 00:30:38,494 --> 00:30:40,856 And one, I don't know what they're really doing anyway for the most part. 632 00:30:40,856 --> 00:30:42,806 But when they're coaching from the stands... 633 00:30:42,806 --> 00:30:47,129 What they're really doing is they're alerting everybody that who's there that 634 00:30:47,129 --> 00:30:49,451 my kid is not ready to play on his own. 635 00:30:49,451 --> 00:30:51,193 He can't prepare on his own. 636 00:30:51,193 --> 00:30:55,497 So I've got to try to coach him through this because he's not ready. 637 00:30:55,497 --> 00:30:57,498 That's what everybody hears. 638 00:30:57,498 --> 00:30:58,680 And that's what the kid hears too. 639 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,841 And they're like, shut up, dad, but they won't say it. 640 00:31:00,841 --> 00:31:04,164 But the only one who doesn't realize that is the one who's saying it because you 641 00:31:04,164 --> 00:31:04,645 just don't know. 642 00:31:04,645 --> 00:31:07,767 Because you think I'm just trying to help my kid do the best. 643 00:31:07,788 --> 00:31:10,349 But someone like that should just go stand out on right field. 644 00:31:10,458 --> 00:31:13,861 And just watch from out there if they can't keep their mouth shut because I will 645 00:31:13,861 --> 00:31:20,346 tell you when they get older This is a true story So I was this past summer. 646 00:31:20,346 --> 00:31:21,847 Um in lake point. 647 00:31:21,847 --> 00:31:27,713 I was standing there talking to a college coach About some kids on our team Um who I 648 00:31:27,713 --> 00:31:30,795 was like, you know, this kid's doing this and this kid's doing that And then they 649 00:31:30,795 --> 00:31:32,817 were also watching a kid on the other team. 650 00:31:32,817 --> 00:31:37,501 Okay And um, he was like, all right, this kid's coming up the bat. 651 00:31:37,581 --> 00:31:38,341 Um 652 00:31:38,346 --> 00:31:40,407 I'm gonna, you know, we're gonna see how he does. 653 00:31:40,407 --> 00:31:43,429 And then he talked to his assistant coach and he looks over and he points over to 654 00:31:43,429 --> 00:31:43,789 the stands. 655 00:31:43,789 --> 00:31:44,410 I'm like, what are you doing? 656 00:31:44,410 --> 00:31:45,951 He's like, that's his mom over there. 657 00:31:45,951 --> 00:31:48,033 We're gonna see how she reacts to on this. 658 00:31:48,033 --> 00:31:49,193 I said, how do you know it's the mom? 659 00:31:49,193 --> 00:31:51,655 He's like, you always know who the mom, she's the one with the camera recording 660 00:31:51,655 --> 00:31:51,775 it. 661 00:31:51,775 --> 00:31:54,797 And I'm like, okay, all right. 662 00:31:54,797 --> 00:31:57,599 And then mom's recording it, the kid's batting. 663 00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:00,621 The kid hits a pop-up, okay. 664 00:32:00,762 --> 00:32:02,743 The coach is standing there with a stopwatch. 665 00:32:02,743 --> 00:32:04,785 The kid hits a pop-up into the infield. 666 00:32:04,785 --> 00:32:06,325 As soon as he hits it, click. 667 00:32:06,338 --> 00:32:09,418 the kid is running as hard as he can to first. 668 00:32:09,438 --> 00:32:11,679 Click, when he gets there, he's like, man, he just had like a, I think it was like a 669 00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:14,380 four or five, home to first, whatever. 670 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,941 This is a play where some kids hit the ball, they throw the bat, they don't run 671 00:32:18,941 --> 00:32:20,161 hard to first. 672 00:32:20,601 --> 00:32:25,143 That was the only at bat that coach saw of that kid that he wanted to see play. 673 00:32:25,143 --> 00:32:26,323 He didn't care that he popped it up. 674 00:32:26,323 --> 00:32:27,843 You're not gonna get a hit every time. 675 00:32:27,843 --> 00:32:31,164 But he cared how fast he ran to first so he could get real time on him. 676 00:32:31,164 --> 00:32:33,325 He looked at the mom afterwards. 677 00:32:33,325 --> 00:32:35,274 She just said, she sat down. 678 00:32:35,274 --> 00:32:36,374 He kept watching her. 679 00:32:36,374 --> 00:32:39,076 The next kid came up, she started clapping her hands, like, come on, Jimmy, or 680 00:32:39,076 --> 00:32:43,498 whatever his name is, wasn't angry that her kid didn't get a hit, didn't do all 681 00:32:43,498 --> 00:32:45,460 this other stuff, started cheering for the next team. 682 00:32:45,460 --> 00:32:48,602 And I don't know what he wrote on his little notes, but he liked everything that 683 00:32:48,602 --> 00:32:51,063 he saw, and the kid had a little weak pop-up. 684 00:32:51,063 --> 00:32:54,305 But I'm telling you, they're watching the parents when you get to the high level. 685 00:32:54,305 --> 00:32:56,886 So parents, if you're out there and you got a kid that you're trying to get to the 686 00:32:56,886 --> 00:33:01,429 next level, just, and you can't hold it together, go out and right field or 687 00:33:01,429 --> 00:33:02,269 something. 688 00:33:02,634 --> 00:33:07,640 But don't do any of the craziness in front of the stands or around the kids because 689 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,963 people see every little thing that you do, so. 690 00:33:09,963 --> 00:33:11,419 Right, yeah. 691 00:33:11,419 --> 00:33:12,480 I agree. 692 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:19,163 There was one time I remember Grace's soccer coach had a meeting with us after 693 00:33:19,283 --> 00:33:23,425 one of the games and he literally was telling us, you guys need to stop. 694 00:33:23,425 --> 00:33:24,625 I'm the coach. 695 00:33:24,685 --> 00:33:27,286 You're telling kids stuff they're not supposed to be doing. 696 00:33:27,286 --> 00:33:32,768 They're telling me at halftime that my mom said this or my dad said this. 697 00:33:32,981 --> 00:33:36,262 And I'll never forget that day because there's certain parents that we all kind 698 00:33:36,262 --> 00:33:37,843 of like joked and looked at them after the thing. 699 00:33:37,843 --> 00:33:40,504 So you're getting us all in trouble because you're the one that's talking. 700 00:33:40,605 --> 00:33:45,968 And looking back, like this one particular mom, she had played college soccer and had 701 00:33:45,968 --> 00:33:46,708 a pretty high level. 702 00:33:46,708 --> 00:33:52,171 So she just coached the heck out of her kid on the sideline when it was actually 703 00:33:52,171 --> 00:33:54,592 against what the coach was trying to tell her to do. 704 00:33:54,613 --> 00:33:56,594 So it's like, yeah, it's really terrible. 705 00:33:56,594 --> 00:34:01,176 And some people, I think they just project themselves too much on their children that 706 00:34:01,176 --> 00:34:02,236 they hope that. 707 00:34:02,257 --> 00:34:04,932 They're helping them, but really, like you're saying, they're not. 708 00:34:04,982 --> 00:34:07,784 No, they're hurting them, they're embarrassing them and everything else. 709 00:34:07,784 --> 00:34:11,206 And you know, look, at the end of the day, these parents are living vicariously 710 00:34:11,206 --> 00:34:12,107 through every at-bat. 711 00:34:12,107 --> 00:34:14,028 And I can't, I'm not going to say that I never did. 712 00:34:14,028 --> 00:34:16,509 When like, you know, fortunately... 713 00:34:16,662 --> 00:34:20,605 My son has been pretty good and so but he struggles sometimes too. 714 00:34:20,605 --> 00:34:21,445 They all do right? 715 00:34:21,445 --> 00:34:24,107 I mean they'll have that they'll go strike out three four times in a row. 716 00:34:24,107 --> 00:34:28,350 I mean it's it happens it's baseball but um you know the worst thing that you can 717 00:34:28,350 --> 00:34:33,054 ever do is just like let them see that you're that you're not pleased with them. 718 00:34:33,054 --> 00:34:37,517 The best thing that you can ever say to your kid I promise you is never like you 719 00:34:37,517 --> 00:34:40,820 know a lot of times he's car rides home now he drives on his own now but these 720 00:34:40,820 --> 00:34:43,734 kids on the car rides home you'll hear some horror stories. 721 00:34:43,734 --> 00:34:46,915 The best thing you can ever do to your kid is just say, hey man, I really enjoy your 722 00:34:46,915 --> 00:34:47,595 love. 723 00:34:47,776 --> 00:34:49,357 I enjoy watching you play, man. 724 00:34:49,357 --> 00:34:50,537 It makes me happy. 725 00:34:50,557 --> 00:34:53,359 Regardless of how good they do, I enjoy watching you play. 726 00:34:53,359 --> 00:34:54,540 I'll never forget this one. 727 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:59,723 So when we play, like, you know, you probably, you never see the signs on the 728 00:34:59,723 --> 00:35:03,465 coaches, but they're doing all this other stuff and you know, but you know, it all 729 00:35:03,465 --> 00:35:04,505 means something. 730 00:35:04,505 --> 00:35:08,528 On our travel team that we're on, I know the signs because I help out in practice, 731 00:35:08,528 --> 00:35:08,748 right? 732 00:35:08,748 --> 00:35:11,929 I don't get anywhere near the dugout during the games because my son would kill 733 00:35:11,929 --> 00:35:11,983 me. 734 00:35:11,983 --> 00:35:13,763 presentation of the 735 00:35:13,763 --> 00:35:14,443 are. 736 00:35:14,484 --> 00:35:20,069 And so, and this even happens on our high level elite travel team that we're on, 737 00:35:20,069 --> 00:35:26,414 that some of the parents still get a little bit too, a little voicey, I guess. 738 00:35:26,414 --> 00:35:27,055 Is that even a word? 739 00:35:27,055 --> 00:35:27,976 Is voicey a damn word? 740 00:35:27,976 --> 00:35:28,516 I don't know. 741 00:35:28,516 --> 00:35:30,078 They talk too damn much, right? 742 00:35:30,078 --> 00:35:32,680 But anyway, but it's very rare. 743 00:35:32,780 --> 00:35:38,705 But this one dad, so I'm looking at the coach, he gives a signal. 744 00:35:38,974 --> 00:35:42,357 And then here comes the pitch and it's right down the middle, a fastball right 745 00:35:42,357 --> 00:35:45,219 down the middle, a pitch that normally you should hit, right? 746 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:46,681 And he didn't swing at it. 747 00:35:46,681 --> 00:35:48,703 And the dad's like, swing the bat! 748 00:35:49,184 --> 00:35:51,766 And I look over at him, I was like, he had the take sign. 749 00:35:52,267 --> 00:35:55,330 Like, the coach told him, don't swing at this pitch. 750 00:35:55,330 --> 00:35:57,452 Because he was the first pitcher to hit a bat. 751 00:35:57,452 --> 00:36:01,096 The pitcher, the guy before him walked on four straight pitches. 752 00:36:01,096 --> 00:36:03,297 So the coach is like, we're making him throw a strike. 753 00:36:03,414 --> 00:36:07,215 And so he gave him the take sign, he didn't swing, dad yells at him for not 754 00:36:07,215 --> 00:36:07,815 swinging. 755 00:36:07,815 --> 00:36:11,056 And I could almost just look at the kid and see the kid just like wanting to just 756 00:36:11,056 --> 00:36:12,716 say shut the F up man. 757 00:36:12,716 --> 00:36:14,477 Like I had the take sign, I couldn't swing. 758 00:36:14,477 --> 00:36:17,517 So parents don't know what's going on all the time either, right? 759 00:36:17,517 --> 00:36:19,738 Like they're being told, let the coaches coach. 760 00:36:19,738 --> 00:36:23,959 But anyway, so hey, you used to live in California, right? 761 00:36:24,619 --> 00:36:32,941 So okay, so do you think that, totally switching gears a little bit, but 762 00:36:33,362 --> 00:36:36,025 So the weather's obviously, what part of California was it in? 763 00:36:36,025 --> 00:36:37,667 Was it Southern California, SoCal where it's warm? 764 00:36:37,667 --> 00:36:38,467 Okay, all right. 765 00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:44,675 So it was 76 and no humidity and no rain, you know? 766 00:36:44,895 --> 00:36:46,057 Yeah. 767 00:36:46,057 --> 00:36:49,201 So they got to, you guys got to play outdoor sports all year long. 768 00:36:49,201 --> 00:36:49,898 Do you think? 769 00:36:49,898 --> 00:36:52,344 school, like we walked out of class when I was outside. 770 00:36:52,830 --> 00:36:57,072 So do you think the kids that play there, play in Florida, play in South Texas, do 771 00:36:57,072 --> 00:37:02,435 you think that they have a competitive advantage playing the outdoor sports 772 00:37:02,435 --> 00:37:04,516 because they get to do it all the time? 773 00:37:04,516 --> 00:37:09,278 Or do you think that possibly since they get to do it all the time, they don't, 774 00:37:09,819 --> 00:37:11,160 they take it for granted? 775 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:16,763 And I say that because the kids around here are just chomping at the bit to get 776 00:37:16,763 --> 00:37:17,803 outside and play baseball. 777 00:37:17,803 --> 00:37:20,444 They've been inside of Smash Zone baseball, plug. 778 00:37:22,270 --> 00:37:23,990 you know, all year long, right? 779 00:37:24,471 --> 00:37:27,733 And so they don't take it for granted because they only get to do it for a long 780 00:37:27,733 --> 00:37:27,893 time. 781 00:37:27,893 --> 00:37:31,535 So do you think that it's a competitive advantage to be able to play all year long 782 00:37:31,535 --> 00:37:31,975 like that? 783 00:37:31,975 --> 00:37:34,416 Or do you think sometimes it might be taken for granted? 784 00:37:34,416 --> 00:37:35,297 I'm just curious. 785 00:37:35,297 --> 00:37:36,557 I don't know the answers to that. 786 00:37:36,557 --> 00:37:39,818 I don't I don't know if there's a right answer right or wrong answer on that. 787 00:37:39,818 --> 00:37:44,500 I don't I don't I want to say no because especially with the facilities that we 788 00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:45,440 have today. 789 00:37:45,445 --> 00:37:47,386 that weather really doesn't matter as much. 790 00:37:47,386 --> 00:37:50,509 I mean, obviously there's nothing that's gonna, you know, like playing baseball 791 00:37:50,509 --> 00:37:52,310 indoor versus playing baseball outdoors. 792 00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:57,074 It's an outdoor sport, so to be playing inside in a building is not the same, and 793 00:37:57,074 --> 00:38:01,098 you're not gonna get the same atmosphere and all that stuff, so I don't know. 794 00:38:01,098 --> 00:38:04,841 I mean, obviously you hear and you see, like especially on, you know, people 795 00:38:04,841 --> 00:38:08,044 playing Division I, there's a lot of kids from Texas that play football, you know, 796 00:38:08,044 --> 00:38:12,627 for instance, or Florida, or just in the South in general, because then they say, 797 00:38:12,627 --> 00:38:14,348 but I don't know if it's the... 798 00:38:14,349 --> 00:38:16,370 I can't say that it's going to be because of the weather. 799 00:38:16,370 --> 00:38:20,272 I just think that there's a culture of that sport being really popular in the 800 00:38:20,272 --> 00:38:22,214 South and a lot of kids playing football. 801 00:38:22,214 --> 00:38:23,394 And Texas is a huge state. 802 00:38:23,394 --> 00:38:27,077 So you're going to have a lot of kids that end up on D1 rosters and it's going to say 803 00:38:27,077 --> 00:38:28,818 Texas because it's a huge state. 804 00:38:28,818 --> 00:38:30,519 Even California is a huge state. 805 00:38:30,519 --> 00:38:32,020 So it's hard to say that. 806 00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:36,282 So I would say no, just because the facilities and people have the training 807 00:38:36,282 --> 00:38:37,163 facilities. 808 00:38:37,903 --> 00:38:40,144 But at the end of the day, sometimes it comes down to money. 809 00:38:40,345 --> 00:38:43,586 You know, so now when you get to the point where you got to go indoors that cost 810 00:38:43,586 --> 00:38:47,267 money and, you know, not all the kids have the money and the resources to do that 811 00:38:47,267 --> 00:38:47,787 kind of stuff. 812 00:38:47,787 --> 00:38:50,248 And I know there's a family here in Barrington. 813 00:38:50,248 --> 00:38:55,229 Their kid was, is actually on the Packers right now. 814 00:38:55,229 --> 00:38:59,090 And I think they do all right, like from a financial standpoint. 815 00:38:59,090 --> 00:39:02,291 And I remember when he was going through high school and I remember the dad talking 816 00:39:02,291 --> 00:39:06,632 about he's taken him to all these specialists to train him. 817 00:39:06,705 --> 00:39:08,946 to build his body, to do a lot of different things. 818 00:39:08,946 --> 00:39:14,508 And I may have the whole story wrong, but the kid was working hard and you needed 819 00:39:14,508 --> 00:39:16,269 those resources to be able to do that stuff. 820 00:39:16,269 --> 00:39:18,550 And I think that definitely helped him. 821 00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:22,972 Whether he would have made it to the Packers or played at, he went to Iowa, if 822 00:39:22,972 --> 00:39:28,254 that would have still happened, maybe, but I'm sure having resources and the money 823 00:39:28,254 --> 00:39:28,975 helped a lot. 824 00:39:28,975 --> 00:39:30,315 And a lot of people don't have that. 825 00:39:30,315 --> 00:39:33,476 So I think that's really where the competitive advantage might come from. 826 00:39:33,790 --> 00:39:36,312 Yeah, you know, that's a great point. 827 00:39:36,312 --> 00:39:40,396 You know, I see a lot of, you know, baseball's getting expensive now. 828 00:39:40,396 --> 00:39:46,001 I mean, it's not, you know, back when I played, I mean, I remember, I remember, I 829 00:39:46,001 --> 00:39:51,125 literally remember Tommy Wheelock, our good friend Tommy, who's my partner in 830 00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:52,426 Smash on Baseball. 831 00:39:53,567 --> 00:39:58,871 You know, his dad was our coach when I was like 10 years old, right? 832 00:39:58,972 --> 00:40:01,093 And we had like two bats. 833 00:40:01,234 --> 00:40:04,515 And he, you remember though, your dad was in the military, my dad was in the 834 00:40:04,515 --> 00:40:06,316 military, Tommy's dad was in the military. 835 00:40:06,316 --> 00:40:10,639 Do you remember those big green duffel bags, those army bags, right? 836 00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:12,280 That was our equipment bag. 837 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,482 And in that bag, literally, okay, literally there was a one cup that the 838 00:40:16,482 --> 00:40:18,963 team shared, okay, disgusting, right? 839 00:40:19,163 --> 00:40:20,624 But we didn't know. 840 00:40:21,305 --> 00:40:25,627 There was like two bats, a glove, and it came in that duffel bag, right? 841 00:40:25,627 --> 00:40:29,249 Coaches were smoking, wearing jeans, I don't know if his dad was, but I mean, it 842 00:40:29,249 --> 00:40:30,342 was just crazy. 843 00:40:30,342 --> 00:40:32,643 And so it wasn't expensive back then. 844 00:40:32,643 --> 00:40:36,727 But now like I saw this one guy on TikTok or somewhere and it was a hilarious, it 845 00:40:36,727 --> 00:40:39,549 was a hilarious, uh, little skit he did. 846 00:40:39,549 --> 00:40:40,409 He looked over at the dugout. 847 00:40:40,409 --> 00:40:41,951 He's like, these bats are $400. 848 00:40:41,951 --> 00:40:46,994 He's like, we got, we got, he said, there's 10, there's 10, $400 bats in that 849 00:40:46,994 --> 00:40:47,215 dugout. 850 00:40:47,215 --> 00:40:50,157 There's $4,000 worth of bats in that dugout. 851 00:40:50,157 --> 00:40:52,639 We got two damn hits. 852 00:40:52,639 --> 00:40:55,701 It was hilarious, but baseball is an expensive sport. 853 00:40:55,701 --> 00:40:56,621 And you know, 854 00:40:57,358 --> 00:41:00,060 There's something that I gotta give these guys and I'm gonna butcher the name of it 855 00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:05,744 But it's called speedball or something and it's because the record the rec leagues 856 00:41:05,744 --> 00:41:09,747 are dying down because everyone's in travel ball now and they're really bad and 857 00:41:09,747 --> 00:41:14,770 It's a way that to try to get kids involved Where it's a lot less expensive 858 00:41:14,770 --> 00:41:17,793 and I'm gonna look in that and try to get him on one day and try to find out What 859 00:41:17,793 --> 00:41:22,196 they're doing because there's a lot of kids especially the inner-city kids, you 860 00:41:22,196 --> 00:41:24,982 know that are unbelievable athletes 861 00:41:24,982 --> 00:41:28,803 that are just, they're just not into baseball because, one, you can't play 862 00:41:28,803 --> 00:41:29,903 baseball on your own. 863 00:41:29,903 --> 00:41:32,104 It's easy to go outside and play basketball on your own. 864 00:41:32,104 --> 00:41:32,624 Right? 865 00:41:32,624 --> 00:41:34,264 And basketball is pretty cheap. 866 00:41:34,264 --> 00:41:36,105 You know, half the time it's free. 867 00:41:36,105 --> 00:41:39,506 You just go out and find it, or you have to have a basketball and a hoop. 868 00:41:39,666 --> 00:41:42,427 And it's free, so like, you can do these things on your own, but baseball and 869 00:41:42,427 --> 00:41:46,568 stuff, but I'm gonna try to look into that because I think that would be, I think 870 00:41:46,568 --> 00:41:51,109 that would be an interesting thing, not interesting, but a. 871 00:41:51,626 --> 00:41:55,110 a noble thing to do to try to figure out a way to help these kids that are less 872 00:41:55,110 --> 00:42:00,717 fortunate be able to get involved in baseball because you know it's the barrier 873 00:42:00,717 --> 00:42:03,721 of entry is difficult because you show up to a tryout and you don't have your own 874 00:42:03,721 --> 00:42:07,216 bat and your own stuff you're not getting on the team, right? 875 00:42:07,216 --> 00:42:11,618 Well, it's also like anything, it's having the facilities too. 876 00:42:11,618 --> 00:42:15,881 So like, you know, you can obviously, you know, you and I, we didn't need much to 877 00:42:15,881 --> 00:42:16,642 play baseball. 878 00:42:16,642 --> 00:42:18,203 I mean, we could just go find a thing. 879 00:42:18,203 --> 00:42:21,224 But nowadays, their facilities are top notch. 880 00:42:21,473 --> 00:42:23,674 and kids are being attracted to that kind of stuff. 881 00:42:23,674 --> 00:42:26,636 And then you got places that they may not have access and they're just not even 882 00:42:26,636 --> 00:42:30,759 gonna have bases and just this dirt field and the lure is not there. 883 00:42:30,759 --> 00:42:34,002 So the kids, maybe if we're going to inner city, the kids just end up playing 884 00:42:34,002 --> 00:42:38,285 basketball or just playing football, which kind of surprises me that they would play 885 00:42:38,285 --> 00:42:40,246 football because football is not cheap either. 886 00:42:41,267 --> 00:42:41,807 So I don't know. 887 00:42:41,807 --> 00:42:48,612 I mean, but it's, the access is important and money, at the end of the day, some of 888 00:42:48,612 --> 00:42:49,692 these kids are. 889 00:42:49,889 --> 00:42:53,451 If you come from affluent stuff and you've got all the training in the world, it can 890 00:42:53,451 --> 00:42:56,073 help you a lot, but it still comes down to the person. 891 00:42:56,073 --> 00:42:58,074 Do they have the ability? 892 00:42:58,074 --> 00:42:59,155 Do they have the work ethic? 893 00:42:59,155 --> 00:43:00,696 Are they going to put the work in? 894 00:43:00,756 --> 00:43:06,340 And for the most part, it's because you think about the number of percentage of 895 00:43:06,340 --> 00:43:10,624 people that actually make it to D1, it's so small, and then even making their pros, 896 00:43:10,624 --> 00:43:11,644 it's really small. 897 00:43:11,644 --> 00:43:13,665 It's almost impossible to get there. 898 00:43:14,486 --> 00:43:17,861 And I don't care how hard you work because you have to have a lot of talent. 899 00:43:17,861 --> 00:43:19,422 and you gotta work really hard. 900 00:43:19,543 --> 00:43:23,729 I don't think there's any professional player that lacks one of those. 901 00:43:23,729 --> 00:43:25,672 That's just a really good talent, but they're lazy. 902 00:43:25,672 --> 00:43:26,473 There's just no way. 903 00:43:26,473 --> 00:43:29,216 You gotta be talented and you gotta work really hard. 904 00:43:29,674 --> 00:43:35,876 Yeah, I mean, you know, I know some of these guys that either train with that 905 00:43:35,876 --> 00:43:39,638 smash zone that I know that are playing in college or kids I know who are committed 906 00:43:39,638 --> 00:43:41,078 to colleges and things like that. 907 00:43:41,078 --> 00:43:44,940 And, you know, I can speak on behalf of some of these kids that are like that are 908 00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:48,241 in high school right now, but they're committed to play college baseball, right? 909 00:43:49,101 --> 00:43:50,302 I know a couple of them, right? 910 00:43:50,302 --> 00:43:57,044 And so these kids, without anyone telling them, are up at 430 in the morning. 911 00:43:57,445 --> 00:43:59,365 They're at the gym at 530. 912 00:44:00,226 --> 00:44:04,448 They're working out until seven, they're hitting the shower, they're going to 913 00:44:04,448 --> 00:44:10,632 school at eight, they get out at three, they go straight to practice, they eat, 914 00:44:10,632 --> 00:44:14,695 and after that, the majority of the time, they'll go find another place to hit and 915 00:44:14,695 --> 00:44:15,756 do more reps. 916 00:44:15,756 --> 00:44:17,737 I mean, that's just what they do. 917 00:44:17,737 --> 00:44:19,278 It's a way of life. 918 00:44:19,378 --> 00:44:24,374 And, you know, there's a point to where like 919 00:44:24,374 --> 00:44:27,595 when they're younger, I remember, like my son for instance, I would push him when he 920 00:44:27,595 --> 00:44:28,416 was younger. 921 00:44:28,416 --> 00:44:35,079 And then it comes to a point to where it's like, okay, I have reached my stopping 922 00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:37,220 point, I can't help you anymore. 923 00:44:37,220 --> 00:44:40,042 Now at that point it's like, okay, now you gotta decide if you want it. 924 00:44:40,042 --> 00:44:44,785 Especially when they start driving, because it's really easy to turn left and 925 00:44:44,785 --> 00:44:48,246 go to a girl's house, rather than keep going straight, rather than keep going 926 00:44:48,246 --> 00:44:49,767 straight and go to the gym, right? 927 00:44:49,767 --> 00:44:51,969 And so it's like, you gotta do both. 928 00:44:51,969 --> 00:44:54,006 I mean, you gotta do both, you gotta be a kid. 929 00:44:54,006 --> 00:44:55,647 But you know, you gotta stay focused too. 930 00:44:55,647 --> 00:44:57,629 And it's like, okay, let's just see what they're gonna do. 931 00:44:57,629 --> 00:44:58,670 And some of them fall off. 932 00:44:58,670 --> 00:45:01,012 And some of them are like, no, I know what I gotta do. 933 00:45:01,012 --> 00:45:02,513 So it's. 934 00:45:02,513 --> 00:45:05,595 I mean, it's just like anything, like even me, like if I go to the driving range, 935 00:45:05,595 --> 00:45:07,416 because I like to get better at golf. 936 00:45:07,417 --> 00:45:11,759 After about 15 minutes, I realized I'm not gonna get better at golf because I don't 937 00:45:11,759 --> 00:45:13,340 wanna keep hitting balls. 938 00:45:13,340 --> 00:45:14,400 You know, you get bored. 939 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:19,503 It's like, I don't, so that's why I knew at an early age that I'm not gonna work 940 00:45:19,503 --> 00:45:25,666 hard to become a superior athlete because I just, I don't know, it's not in me to 941 00:45:25,666 --> 00:45:28,088 work that hard or do something. 942 00:45:28,088 --> 00:45:32,150 So, you know, just like a kid that goes and will swing a baseball bat, I don't 943 00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:35,952 know how many times they swing it on a given day, but I would not do that because 944 00:45:35,952 --> 00:45:37,312 I get bored too quick. 945 00:45:37,545 --> 00:45:39,031 you know, and I'm like, I'm just not going to do it. 946 00:45:39,031 --> 00:45:43,086 So that's why I never was going to excel at sports because I wasn't putting the 947 00:45:43,086 --> 00:45:44,228 extra work in. 948 00:45:44,398 --> 00:45:46,030 That's why you just want to play soccer. 949 00:45:46,477 --> 00:45:48,838 Well, I played soccer until about 8th grade and then I switched to football, 950 00:45:48,838 --> 00:45:49,479 so... 951 00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:59,046 So here's what's funny, before we wrap up, so you brought up where you guys beat us, 952 00:45:59,066 --> 00:46:05,312 our dorms or whatever, in the intermural, isn't that in the archives at University 953 00:46:05,312 --> 00:46:07,598 of Louisville or something and you posted it or something? 954 00:46:07,598 --> 00:46:09,301 It was in the student center for the longest time. 955 00:46:09,301 --> 00:46:12,325 And then I don't know who found it, but someone found it. 956 00:46:12,325 --> 00:46:17,431 And there's a picture of us that, not you, sorry, because you didn't win, but of my 957 00:46:17,431 --> 00:46:22,218 dorm as the dorm champions of maybe it was 1990 or 91. 958 00:46:22,218 --> 00:46:24,860 And we were the campus champs. 959 00:46:26,454 --> 00:46:27,545 And that was the goalie. 960 00:46:27,545 --> 00:46:30,938 And you were the goalie, so if the way I look at it, you were the reason that you 961 00:46:30,938 --> 00:46:32,707 guys lost, because you were the goalie. 962 00:46:32,707 --> 00:46:36,053 the reason we lost was Mad Dog 2020. 963 00:46:36,114 --> 00:46:38,137 Shouldn't have been in the goalie's hand. 964 00:46:39,590 --> 00:46:43,996 It was rainy that day and that was so much fun. 965 00:46:43,996 --> 00:46:45,737 I remember like it was yesterday. 966 00:46:45,758 --> 00:46:48,401 And, but we were in the showdown in the final. 967 00:46:48,401 --> 00:46:52,407 I don't know what the final score was, but I know you lost and I won. 968 00:46:52,407 --> 00:46:55,090 And I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. 969 00:46:55,090 --> 00:46:57,132 You can't ever take that back. 970 00:46:57,634 --> 00:47:00,375 Dave won, bobski nothing on that one I guess. 971 00:47:00,375 --> 00:47:05,977 All right man, well hey look, thanks for joining us, for joining in today. 972 00:47:06,238 --> 00:47:07,898 It was a lot of fun catching up. 973 00:47:07,898 --> 00:47:10,439 I mean we see each other all the time on FaceTime and all that stuff and we get 974 00:47:10,439 --> 00:47:12,641 together a couple times a year it seems like. 975 00:47:12,641 --> 00:47:13,861 We need to do it more. 976 00:47:13,861 --> 00:47:20,444 But before I get off, if you wanna do a little plug, I mentioned earlier that you 977 00:47:20,444 --> 00:47:23,806 were a CPA and financial planner. 978 00:47:23,806 --> 00:47:26,947 So what is it exactly? 979 00:47:27,749 --> 00:47:28,437 again. 980 00:47:28,437 --> 00:47:32,300 Yeah, I'm a wealth manager and we specialize in small to mid-sized 981 00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:35,283 businesses and their owners for the most part. 982 00:47:35,283 --> 00:47:39,226 We do a lot of tax and wealth planning and all that fun stuff. 983 00:47:39,226 --> 00:47:44,850 So that's what I do by day and I enjoy it because I enjoy working with people and 984 00:47:44,850 --> 00:47:45,851 helping people. 985 00:47:45,851 --> 00:47:49,834 So that's really when I think about what I really enjoy about what I do is because I 986 00:47:49,834 --> 00:47:51,136 like to help people. 987 00:47:51,136 --> 00:47:53,698 And that's really, it's not really about the numbers. 988 00:47:53,698 --> 00:47:57,469 I mean, I'm good at numbers and that comes naturally for me and it just happens to be 989 00:47:57,469 --> 00:48:01,504 But at the end of the day, we're good about helping people and helping them to 990 00:48:01,504 --> 00:48:03,208 be successful in their business. 991 00:48:03,710 --> 00:48:04,172 That's awesome. 992 00:48:04,172 --> 00:48:07,703 It sounds like you're a perfect candidate to be one of our show sponsors, right? 993 00:48:08,695 --> 00:48:11,044 Yeah, once you start to get some traction, I'd love to do it. 994 00:48:11,214 --> 00:48:13,882 Hey, well look, I've got 180,000 followers on TikTok now. 995 00:48:13,882 --> 00:48:15,073 I think this will catch on. 996 00:48:15,073 --> 00:48:19,057 No, I don't doubt it because you turn TikTok into something and I don't, I'm 997 00:48:19,057 --> 00:48:20,619 pretty sure you're going to turn this into something. 998 00:48:20,619 --> 00:48:25,845 I'm pretty excited to be, you know, one of your initial people that you brought on. 999 00:48:25,845 --> 00:48:29,388 And I look forward to watching you grow in your success. 1000 00:48:29,638 --> 00:48:32,422 Absolutely, so David Robbins our guest today. 1001 00:48:32,422 --> 00:48:38,192 I'll throw his contact information in the show notes and Thanks for tuning in make 1002 00:48:38,192 --> 00:48:39,434 sure you subscribe to the channel. 1003 00:48:39,434 --> 00:48:42,860 We're gonna have a lot of good stuff and so That's it. 1004 00:48:42,860 --> 00:48:43,761 Let's go 1005 00:48:44,084 --> 00:48:44,514 Let's go!