Ryan Schreiber—Chief Growth Officer at Metafora—joins The Freight Show to unpack why most freight-tech projects fail before they start, how to reframe “the problem” as an operational one, and why a broker’s goal should be zero inbound calls. We dig into AI’s real promise (natural-language workflows at 3 a.m.), the orchestration mindset (people × process × tech), and how to redesign the carrier org around strategic sourcing → advanced booking → coverage instead of asking one rep to do it all.
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What you'll learn
- Stop solving the wrong problem: Most “AI failures” are ops failures—misframed problems and incentives, not model quality.
- Zero inbound is the goal: Every inbound call is a lagging indicator that upstream work (quoting/follow-ups/coverage) slipped.
- Natural language as UI: Why chat/voice beats app labyrinths for drivers at 3 a.m.
- Orchestration > automation: Harmonize people, process, and tech so the system can triage work and scale capacity thoughtfully.
- Carrier org of the future: Cohort by strategic sourcing, advanced booking (≈48h), and coverage—and measure for carriers who want your freight, not just those who’ll take it.
Time-stamped highlights
- (00:00) Drivers don’t want a call—they want a fix: NLP and AI as “the 3 a.m. workflow.”
- (07:00) “Zero inbound” as a north star for brokers.
- (10:30) Orchestration defined: aligning process, tech, and UX.
- (14:45) Cloud-computing analogy for staffing & surge demand.
- (22:30) Pilots that flop: answering calls vs eliminating the need for calls.
- (29:45) Capacity Strategy: strategic sourcing → advanced booking → coverage.
- (36:30) “Carriers who want your freight” and how to measure fit.
- (41:45) Micro-decisions: when to post vs. invest in relationship routes.
- (43:30) Ryan’s signature: “I don’t know who needs to hear this, but…”
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The Freight Show brings stories of freight and logistics leaders who’ve shaped the industry. Through in-depth conversations, we explore their journeys, the challenges they’ve overcome, and the insights that have driven their success. Each episode uncovers the lessons, strategies, and wisdom of these freight leaders.