What is going on, everybody?
Welcome to Thursday Night
CrossFit Talk with Scott and Jamie.
As you can see, brand new opening,
same old song because we're
never getting rid of the theme song.
I couldn't see it.
Oh, my gosh.
I know.
I'm so mad.
I was trying to find the play.
Nothing.
Nothing was available.
I kept my mouth shut.
Jamie and her technical issues.
I'm going back to the phone, dang it.
That worked better.
what is up kenneth holly
jody lex sarah great to
have you all here tonight
um kenneth says new intro
is popping and attention
grabbing acr just jumped in
the chat I got to tell you
acr this is just for you um
I've learned today that
live from daryl's house if
you don't know what that is
it's daryl hall from hollow notes
has a show where he has a barn,
invites musicians out,
and I watched the whole
Johnny Resnick episode again today.
They're now available on YouTube,
so you can check those out.
And I was thinking of you, ACR,
since you and I did that
Goo Goo Dolls top five,
and it is freaking awesome.
You should check it out.
So we always start with some
goofy TV stuff because
we're in the off season
before shit gets real.
So right now,
we were just about to finish
season two of Reacher last week.
Did you?
Oh my gosh, Kenneth.
I know.
What the heck, Kenneth?
The greatest duo in the
history of rock and roll.
That's what that is.
So we were about to finish
Reacher season two.
Did you, did you, did you finish it?
I finished it.
We watched it yesterday, Tuesday night.
Finally.
Um, I, it was good and I am like,
they wrapped it up good,
but I still think I like
season one better.
I've come to the realization
they're just two different,
they're just two different entities.
They both have a different
vibe and I like the vibe in
both at different times.
Um,
And so I'm excited to see
where they go with season
three because there is
going to be one apparently.
But yeah, this one was total,
and even the first one,
total 80s action movie hero throwback.
And I loved every bit of the ending.
Yeah.
Yeah, the ending was good.
They wrapped it up really good.
I was really happy with it.
Yeah, so season three has been confirmed.
They're already filming it.
They're filming in Maine.
and um it's off of book
seven of lee child
persuader so I actually
think I'm gonna get it and
read it because I haven't I
didn't read the other books
I don't know if you did I
did not yeah I love I love
reading and I i always
prefer books over movies
whatnot so I think I'm
gonna get this book soon
and read it and have an
idea have an idea so I love
books over movies too and
so generally if I know I'm
gonna watch the movie I
don't read the book because
it'll just ruin it for me
It probably will.
It's all right.
I cannot stand the Harry Potter movies.
Cannot stand them.
Yeah.
Cause the books are so much better.
Yeah.
Agreed.
Grisham stuff.
The books are so much better.
Um, yeah.
Yeah.
So, and they've confirmed,
obviously Reacher's in it
and Neely is in it and that's it.
We, we,
if we're lucky we'll get a
cameo kind of like we did
with the one officer.
I always call him the tweet tornado.
Yes.
But, and I,
cause I can't remember his last name.
I know.
I can't think of it right now either.
Yeah.
So I wanted,
so last week I got you turned
on to welcome to Rexham.
And you told me before we
went on the air that you
have binge watched both season and
Yes.
And you were done with Welcome to Wrexham.
Yeah, we got through the whole darn thing.
It does not help anything
that Aaron is still off
work because of his heel.
Because I feel like that's
what we do is like sit here
and binge TV if I'm not at the gym.
So yeah,
we got through all two seasons of
Welcome to Wrexham.
All 36 episodes.
Yeah, a ton.
I was like, this needs to hurry up.
This needs to hurry up.
But yeah, I was like addicted.
It was incredible.
And you're in...
if you are at all a fan of
ryan reynolds like you're
gonna love it his yeah his
humor throughout is just
awesome yeah and if you if
you like a good underdog
story like unreal
so Lex is asking is anyone
watching True Detective so
I watched the first season
of True Detective and it
was weird and wacky and I
loved it I could not get
through season two so I
stopped watching them but
I've heard that this season
is really really good and
every season is a
completely different story
with completely different
characters so my wife just started it
So now it's like,
do I want to watch it alone
or let her like have me catch up?
Yeah.
So we got to figure that out.
Oh boy.
Don't get me turned on to another one.
I don't need any other shows to binge.
Yeah.
Andrew says it's funny that
Ryan and Rob were not
really close friends before
buying that team.
Yeah.
They had never met.
It sounds like Rob just kind
of like DM dry in and
they're like so close now
and it's so cute.
It is.
And that both families are
all involved and that both
are married to stars in their own right.
Yeah, for me, I honestly found it.
I know you have this at the end,
but like for me watching
Welcome to Wrexham,
everything going on with
the Lions right now,
I like I felt like it was like.
a synchro story.
Like, like you,
you feel as the way they're
talking about the town and
the way that team has been knocked out,
like bottle, you know,
a little bit different,
obviously like lines were
never going to get knocked
out of the NFL.
So you're safe there, but like, yeah,
we were like the worst team
in the league for years.
I mean,
it's been 30 years since we've even
had a shot.
So like,
In seeing grown men cry in the stands,
which happened at both the
last two games for the Lions,
it's like milestones.
I just had that feeling that whole time.
It's just like our town.
It's just like watching my team.
There's also history lessons,
like the mining accident
that happened in Wrexham.
Like that,
that episode blew me away and
how the aristocrats kind of
just let it be.
Yeah.
So, um, yeah.
I'm very excited to see the
remodel that they do on
that stadium and how they, like,
they just,
they're doing such a wonderful job.
Now I'm tied into a soccer
team that I never thought,
and I'm not a big soccer fan,
but I'm very,
very like wrapped into this
team and seeing how they do
and continue on.
Lex is asking, what am I drinking?
It is actually a nitro cold brew.
So yeah.
That is what I am drinking.
Frost?
Paper Street?
I'm out of frost.
So I had to go with a local store variety,
but it's a zero sugar flavored one.
Oh, nice.
So it is actually Mackinaw
Fudge Nitro Cold Brew, zero calories.
That sounds amazing.
It's really good.
And it does taste like chocolate milk.
What's up, Corey?
A little bit.
Not fully chocolate milk.
It has a coffee flavor to it still.
But, yeah.
Well, good.
You want that.
All right.
I was going to say that I
was watching a couple goofy
shows recently.
If you,
this is the dumbest show in the world,
but I got hooked.
It's called the spicy, super hot,
the spicy world of pepper people.
Okay.
And it's about the mission
to make the world's hottest pepper.
It is crazy.
It is stupid.
It is what these people do
to their bodies is insane.
So they grow peppers and
then they eat them?
So it's the whole gambit of
these pepper people.
Some are growers.
Some compete in eating challenges.
Yeah.
So they have like a league where round one,
everybody has to eat a pepper.
And if you don't throw up or drink milk,
you move on to round two.
And then it keeps going up 10 rounds.
And the 10th round is speed.
You have to eat like six
peppers the fastest.
it is so and there there's a
guy named joey scoville who
goes around like tasting
all these peppers to
determine if it's in the
running for the hottest so
he's going to like
pittsburgh and texas and
louisiana and all this
crazy stuff tasting peppers
so uh it was it it's so
stupid but julie and I are
like five episodes in
Yeah, that's crazy.
I'll have to have my cousin
check that out.
He that he will eat the spiciest things.
I just don't understand it.
Yeah, crazy.
So we'll move on to.
I pretended to like peppers
when I first started dating
Lex and she would make me meals.
I am a no for peppers now.
Yeah.
That's a,
you gotta just speak up from the get go.
I,
my brother-in-law did the same thing
when he was dating my sister,
they went out and he's too nice.
And so he like said he liked mush.
They had gotten,
somebody had gotten pizza.
He said he didn't mind
mushrooms or liked them.
So everyone gave him their
mushrooms and now,
and then for like a while year,
he got stuck eating
mushrooms all the time.
People would like order them extra.
it took a while for him to
speak up and be like no I
actually don't like
mushrooms I just was being
kind um so yeah lesson
learned so sarah asks am I
still going to christie's
gym yes yes I am was just
talking about that we were
um alexis carolyn is a
phony she doesn't like veggies
All right,
let's get into a little bit of
CrossFit talk now that we
have started the show off
with our goofy TV talk and randomness.
The CrossFit HQ announced
they have appointed a
CrossFit affiliate council this week.
And I'm going to share the
post so you can see that.
So there's the new affiliate council.
I'm gonna go through the names.
It starts with Austin giving
like an explanation of it all.
And then these are the
people that have been selected.
Zia Rorbaugh.
She is from Encitas, California,
CrossFit Counterculture.
Miquel Boutillion.
But tell him something like that.
It is France names France
with CrossFit names.
Trying to do my best French accent.
Craig Howard Diablo CrossFit Pleasant Hill,
California.
Gavin Heselton CrossFit Glasgow, Scotland,
United Kingdom.
Ian Barbour CrossFit Glasgow, Scotland,
United Kingdom.
Joshua Plusker, CrossFit Invictus Back Bay,
Boston, Massachusetts, Jason Kalipa,
NC CrossFit, and NorCal CrossFit,
Bay Area, California.
And that is the group.
That is the group.
So already Carolyn says,
why two from the same affiliate?
Well, I have a question.
Why three from California?
Yeah, that too.
So you have Kalipa Howard
and the first one, a roar bar,
all from California.
You have Boston represented.
So some East coast three from the West.
two from the same in the uk
we have none from australia
none from south america
south america is where
we're growing the most
australia is a major player
in crossfit affiliates and
they have none and none
from the midwest so and
this this in no way changes the regional
representatives that are
throughout the country that
are holding these um
affiliate summits and
things like that those were
still and those are still
in play okay so I don't
understand what all this is
about that's what I'm yeah
it's like yeah I mean I
guess we could listen to
austin you want to listen
to austin yeah what does he
got to say that
are organically receiving inbound,
that are doing strong work
within our community,
that have a strong voice,
that are able to hold us accountable,
that are interested and
invested in the growth of CrossFit,
but will give us a
perspective that we may not
have internally.
and a really important voice
for us when we do things, for one,
for them to hold us honest,
to give us feedback,
but also to help the community as well.
Communication's been a struggle for us,
but we also know that our
affiliates listen to each
other really well.
Sometimes, you gotta look to your left,
look to your right, and say, we got this.
If there's an opportunity to learn,
we want to take it.
And we look at that.
The affiliate council is an
opportunity to learn,
to listen and to make sure
that we measure twice before we cut.
We need a group of affiliate owners.
Okay.
So what,
what was the affiliate reps that
we already have?
Is that not what this is?
I'm confused.
So this is a committee that will just be,
um, in, uh,
Let me get this.
This is a committee that
would like just be kind of
hanging out at HQ, I guess.
Getting input about or I don't know.
I don't know.
It seems duplicative from
the regional affiliate.
Yeah.
And I don't think while I
liked Austin saying
communication has been a problem for us.
Some of the shortcomings, it just doesn't,
it seems duplicative to me.
We already have a group of
affiliate owners who are
representing CrossFit as middlemen,
middlewomen.
And I don't get why this is needed.
So Andrew says the affiliate
reps work for CrossFit and
these are just affiliate owners.
Yes.
I can maybe get behind that.
I can see that a little bit.
Okay, I see that too.
But they are affiliate owners as well.
Yeah, right.
Well, Andrew Charles is an owner.
Yes, he is an owner.
Yeah.
I would think most of them are.
I really can't imagine that there's any.
Chase Ingram is an affiliate owner.
Yep.
Well, I think he still owns CrossFit.
Isn't it CrossFit?
Big D or whatever.
He's in Dallas, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, unless things have changed.
I thought that they were.
Because our affiliate rep
used to be Dale King.
He is definitely an affiliate owner.
And then it turned into
Andrew Charlesworth.
Andrew says Chase sold it last year.
I do think I remember Chase
selling his gym.
But he was.
So yeah, I don't know.
I mean,
I guess you do want current box
owners who aren't
necessarily in CrossFit's
back pocket speaking up,
maybe getting different
communication so yeah okay
all right I stand corrected
that's why we have a great
chat that can help us fill
in the spaces and help us
understand better that's
why you guys are the best
So I talked about this a
little bit on the Monday show,
but this is something you
and I have talked about a ton.
So I wanted to bring it up
here and get your, uh,
and Corey really wanted to be picked.
I guess.
Corey, do you own an affiliate?
No.
I think that's the key
qualification that you're missing here,
buddy.
um so the online judging
team yes there was an
announcement uh barbell
spin broke the news that
there you could become an
online judge duplicative is
a word jody it is I feel
like I think you're
thinking duplicitous no I don't know okay
It's all in legal stuff when
I was doing research.
He goes to an affiliate.
He's overqualified.
So anyway, judging.
They are putting together a
team to do online judging
of team quarterfinals,
individual quarterfinals,
age group quarterfinals,
age group semifinals.
Those are all the things
that we wanted online
judging to help with.
Yeah.
And they're going to pay
these judges to help them
do some of the online judging.
The only requirement is that
you pass the 2024 CrossFit Judges course.
However,
having a current CrossFit Level 1
certificate is highly recommended.
Okay.
Those who are accepted into
online review team will be
asked to review the video
submissions from April 5th
all the way through May 19th.
Sorry, I had to sneeze.
So your thoughts?
I mean...
I still don't understand why
they don't just have it open sourced.
It's a step.
Sure.
But like, I don't know.
Yeah.
I don't,
Are you going to read us the definition?
I was just putting it up
there for everybody to see.
Duplicative.
Adjective.
Involving duplication,
especially unnecessary
repetition of effort or resources.
Done the same way more than once.
Effectively identical.
Duplicative.
Makes sense.
Like duplicating.
Got it.
Andrew,
they did not mention the open or
quarters.
Yes, quarters.
They did mention quarters.
Yeah.
Not the open.
I don't think they're going
to do anything about the open.
They're just going to let
the chips fall where they may.
Love you too, Jody.
Always keeping me in check.
I would bet...
Pretty good money that they
probably won't pick Hiller.
Oh, they will not pick Hiller.
I mean, really?
I wonder how many people
they didn't even say.
So my question to you is,
will they be able to say,
we have staffing issues and
can't get to them?
Right, right.
That excuse should be out the window now,
right?
It should be.
Andrew, that's what I,
you can't open source
quarters and summits.
They should allow the public
to thumbs up or down open videos.
That, yes.
I think they should allow
the public to thumbs up or
thumbs down all videos, all stages.
It's a blind leaderboard is
what he's getting at.
And if you put the videos out there,
it's no longer blind.
Yeah,
but they're not finalizing the
leaderboard the day it unlocks anyway.
Right, but if I'm athlete A,
I can go out and search B, C, D,
and E and see how they did.
Yeah, sure.
And then I can redo the
workout if I want to.
Yeah,
if you want to spend that much time
and that much obsessing over trying to
think about everyone in your
bracket and search videos forums, I guess,
spend that energy.
I mean, my videos have,
people could have done that
to me all along.
My videos are always up.
Right.
But that's your choice.
It's a blind leaderboard.
Right.
I know.
Choose that.
They don't want that.
Then you would make them that choice.
Who is going to seriously
take the time to go search
every athlete's name and
see if they have videos out?
Come on.
Then they probably won't
post it or they'll post it
private or whatever until the day.
If you cared that much,
you would keep your video private.
It can stay a blind until,
until the final day and then open it up.
And that's when videos are
there for review.
And everyone will just
realize that it's going to
take an extra week.
This is a quote from Andrew Hiller,
according to WAD Zombie.
I'm just kidding.
I don't know.
This is true.
Hopin and Brian Friend would.
Yeah.
Power the videos and put
together their own leaderboard.
Yeah, they probably would.
Yeah.
So, or our own Holly,
I'm sure she would do that
in her spare time.
You keep her busy enough.
I don't know if she'd have
spare time to search for
all kinds of people's later videos.
It's at least a step.
It's a step in the right direction.
And that the judges get paid
is really cool.
Yeah, that's awesome.
They're going to get so many requests.
I mean.
Did our guy get selected?
I think he's just.
Oh, yeah.
Do you already know you're selected?
How quickly are they coming that up?
uh holly says don't tempt me
with a good time and her
definition of a good time
in mind are very different
uh andrew says yes he's
been selected I would I
would think almost all of
like the regular judging
people would just be in if they applied.
And that's where,
that's where I'm wondering how many,
how many people are they even taking?
Like they should have just said, we,
you know, we only need a handful more.
They're going to get
thousands of applicants and
they're going to take like 10.
So Sarah, I agree with you.
The open doesn't matter.
Hiding a video in the open is stupid.
That should be open sourced.
It does matter in quarterfinals this year.
With the cut down to 80
athletes in North America
and 40 athletes in Europe,
it is a huge deal.
And there are people that
are going to try to game it
and people that will want
to block the gaming at the
quarterfinal level.
I did not.
I have hung up my judging
stopwatch for good.
I'm too busy with media.
That's true.
Ain't got time for that.
Nope.
But I applaud all those who, who, uh,
It was an open invitation.
There was a link.
I like, I could have signed up Andrew.
It was an open invitation.
So I wanted to briefly talk
about mic'd up athletes.
Okay.
So yesterday Savon released, uh,
the mic'd up athletes from the team,
part of water Palooza.
Okay.
I think there is something there.
Oh, it's going to be great.
I'm so excited to see that.
The disappointing part is
the weather affected it too, right?
Okay.
You're not going to wear
mics in a torrential
downpour or a swim event.
Right.
So it limits how much it
could actually be used.
But there is at this point
an authenticity that you don't get –
There's nothing just you get
because nobody's asking
them the questions.
They're just talking.
Yeah.
Right.
And they're talking with
other athletes and they're
talking with other coaches.
And so it made it.
very genuine.
And there is a part where they might Mike,
the popper on the 5k run.
And they just kind of animated the run,
like where they were on the spot.
And you would hear,
you didn't see him say anything,
but you heard what he said
and where he kind of was at on the trail.
Okay.
And they would put like a head,
like he kept saying, I got to,
I got to track down Noah.
And they'd have like a
little Noah head ahead of
him on the track.
Right.
Like I just passed Tola and he would pass.
And I thought that was like
freaking amazing.
That's awesome.
Shoot.
That's the only coverage we
have from that event.
Right.
The animated heads running on the trail.
Um,
and I do think that there is definitely
something to this that
needs to be captured more.
Yeah.
It's just a shame that it rains so much.
Um,
So like in the rain one,
they did get some
commentary after and then
went and as they were
commentating on it afterwards,
showed clips of how it was
happening on the floor.
Like Ricky having no grip on the doll,
dollamer mat and slipping
and sliding on the wall walks.
Like it was, it's really good.
It's really good.
I would almost put it above
behind the scenes because
I could see that.
When do us normies get to see it?
One week?
One week out?
Not a clue.
All right.
I'll stand by.
But it does appear that it
took the place of a
behind-the-scenes release yesterday.
I'm excited to hear the cold one.
Yeah, that one will be good.
Well, maybe.
I don't know.
He's not a talker.
So how much is he going to talk?
I don't know.
He seems to be talking a
whole lot more now than he ever did.
One week.
One week for normies, Jamie.
Okay.
I'll sit and wait.
I'll patiently wait for it.
Well, speaking of Colton,
we talked about him joining Proven.
But I found out his coach is Joey Tutoro.
Yeah.
That's not what I thought he
was going there.
I mean,
I thought he was going there
because he liked Taylor's husband.
Yeah, I thought so too.
Carolyn says, yeah,
he seems way more outspoken
than he used to be.
Joey Tutoro is from Columbus, Ohio.
Okay.
He owned CrossFit Grandview,
which was Bill Henniger's gym,
original gym that he sold
to Joey and Graham Holmberg.
And then Graham split off
and Joey owned it for a while.
He then, his wife is a doctor,
so he moved to Philadelphia
for her and was on Team OBX
the last couple seasons
with Kelsey Keel and Amia Lumberg,
Ashley Wozni the year before that.
So I think it's a great fit.
He is...
He was a smaller athlete his
entire career.
Not like short, like Colton.
Not that Joey's tall, but not short,
but he was like smaller, like you.
Like a spieler?
No, gosh.
Just slighter built.
Like strength is not his strength.
Yeah,
so kind of like spieler or just not
that small.
Not that small.
Okay.
No.
Um,
but he had to overcome a lot to get to
where he got to.
So I think he understands
Colton and I think it's
going to be a great fit and
I'm super excited for it.
Yeah.
I mean, I will be curious to see,
I don't know Colton like well at all.
So I've not like no ideas.
He had type a personality.
Is he, is he super like controlling like,
I'm curious.
And when you've done this
for so long yourself,
it's going to be really
hard to hand over that
control and trust in
somebody else that they're
going to get it right.
And like, I mean,
is he going to train and
then go out with pigs all
day and then be like in his mind,
just like, I didn't do this.
I should have done this.
I need to go.
Like, is he going to,
is he going to be able to
just let it go and trust somebody?
And,
and cause that's the whole point is to
take his mind off of some
of that stuff and stress and, and,
So I think that knowing Joey,
that it'll be more collaborative.
Okay.
Like, I don't, I don't view Joey as a,
this is your,
what you're doing and you better do it.
Yeah.
It's going to be more of a
collaborative kind of build.
I mean,
and Colton's been doing something right.
Right.
Like, right.
I'm very curious to see.
Sometimes it's helpful to have somebody,
someone's outside perspective and be like,
you know,
let's focus on this for a bit or
try this.
Maybe something different
that you don't necessarily think of.
Well,
he said he's been doing Kilo 2
programming.
I know.
And it's just not at a level
that he needs right now.
Right.
So I think it's more than just...
I don't, yeah.
I think he just needs
someone helping him with
some of the light lifting
of like programming the week out,
doing those types of things
and taking that off his shoulders.
Yeah.
Well, good for him.
Does this Joey guy have other athletes?
So he competed last year at the games.
Okay.
On OBX.
So I think he just moved to Proven.
Now, he was an individual athlete,
like early teams,
and then has been primarily
a team competitor since
then with CrossFit
Grandview for many years,
and then OBX when he moved to Philly.
But he's always been the
captain of the teams.
And my guess is he's been
the one doing the
programming for the team.
So I think that got his feet wet.
Plus he owned an affiliate free ever.
Yeah.
So, um, but yeah,
I didn't even know he moved to proven.
I'm reaching out to some of
the people there to kind of
get an update as to what's going on,
have them on the show,
talk about their new facility.
That would be awesome.
Yeah.
Speaking of guests coming up,
just checking real quick,
see if I got... It looks
like we're going to have
Adrian Bosman on Monday morning.
Don't quote me yet.
look for it.
We're,
we're just trying to iron out a time.
I think we have it.
I just need Adrian's thumbs
up and then I'll get the
thumbnail made and put up,
but we should have Boz on
the show Monday morning ish.
So I want you to talk about, and you,
you can do it in a,
in a way that doesn't
disclose the competition, but you, um,
but you reached out to a
competition and asked them
the prize purse question,
because we talked about
legends forever that, well,
they didn't say there was a prize purse.
And then, so you,
before signing up for this competition,
ask the question.
Yeah.
I mean, that, that is my biggest thing.
Like,
I was really frustrated with
some of the commentary back
about the legends, people saying, well,
they never said there was a prize purse.
So that got me thinking,
how often is it published?
I feel like other than like
Wadapalooza and the games,
you don't really see the number.
You just know that they pay
because they've always paid.
And so I'm like, well, what is the...
what, I mean,
especially when there's a lot
of different divisions, you know,
when you have an RX masters, team,
team masters, you know,
like literally like 10
different categories, like I,
I can't imagine you're
paying for every category.
Um, so like, is there really any prizes?
Um, and like just browsing,
looking for any type of
hint at like what the podium
prizes might be or what
divisions are even gonna
get anything um and there
was like literally nothing
I could find anywhere um
you look at like last pic
last year's pictures you
see some stuff um like you
see a barbell in people's
hands cool like that's not
nothing I mean and and I
totally get it they may not
these comps may not always
have stuff ironed out but
like I just feel like
You can't tell us that they
didn't say that there was a prize purse,
so you shouldn't have expected one.
And then, on the other hand,
these comps also can't
drill down their... They're
waiting probably for...
people to sign up see who's
coming then maybe they get
other sponsors and or maybe
more money because
so-and-so is coming um and
so like they don't want to
put in writing exactly what
it is because and this kind
of it sounds like they want
to do as much as they can
and so they're they're
trying their hardest to
keep growing it and keep
getting more money and
making the prize purse
bigger um but you know they
were really they were like
basically to me it sounds
like just elite which is
totally fine I just wish
that that was published
somewhere just say elite gets paid
t tbd whatever it is elite
will be paid amount to be
determined closer to the
bracket um and then that
way like masters know that
there's no prize purse t
and I'm I'm actually
curious at this one if
teams get paid like I have
no idea on that either um
but I just feel like if you
if you think you're going
to put together a prize
purse if there's going to
be some swag like
You've got a Yeti cooler bag
and shoes or a barbell or, like,
write that stuff.
Like, some of that stuff, like,
my gym could use a barbell
if I have a shot at something like that.
It could be enticing if it's
a close enough comp.
So, yeah, it's just – it's super –
Yes, Denise.
We've always gotten paid at Legends.
It's never been advertised.
It was obviously assumed
from all of us athletes who
have been going to Legends
that there would continue
to be a prize purse.
And so, yeah, I don't know.
Well, one thing I just want to clear up.
You reached out to a competition,
asked if there was a prize purse.
They said yes, depending on the division.
Yep.
That's what I said.
Yes.
Depending on the division,
I think was their response,
but they never confirmed
what it was or what divisions.
Correct.
So they did respond.
And I don't know if you've seen it.
They did respond back when I, when I said,
I basically wrote back and was just like,
I didn't say, you know,
masters have been screwed in the past.
I'm just trying to make a clarification.
They knew who I was clear,
like clearly with their response.
Um,
And they were like, I get it.
I get you want to know.
We don't know, basically,
is what they said.
And they made it clear that
the master's prize is the
entry fee to Legends.
And I get that.
And that's fine.
And I'm sure there's people
that want to go to this
comp to get that place.
and paid for that's, that's a good price.
Um, I don't, at this point,
I don't want to go back to, like,
I don't want to go there
and earn a spot to legends
to probably not get paid again.
Like, you know, like that's not even,
that's, that's just not where I'm at.
Like, um, so yeah,
But they did.
They responded to me very kindly, very,
very thorough.
It was probably like a
three-paragraph response.
It was a great response.
I totally got where they're coming from.
They totally got where I'm coming from.
I just think there should be
some level of communication.
Just say that in your communication.
Masters are getting the entry fee.
Elites will be paid TBD and
general swag for all of our other
Or, or,
or intermediate gets nothing or
whatever it is.
I mean, just make it clear.
Denise Moore says,
I was quite surprised that
last year's legends,
that individuals got nothing yet.
The teams in our X divisions
got backpacks.
That's Denise.
That's what had me like
thinking for sure we were
getting something is
because I did know that
teams and scaled or whoever
was there got some stuff, like got a bag,
got some swag stuff.
Like, and I was like, oh,
well they got something.
And so I was like, well,
we'll for sure get something.
We're not going to be like
the empty handed ones.
So I don't know.
I was, I was very, very surprised.
So still two TBD on the
prizes for masters at different comps.
We'll have to see how that
plays out over the upcoming season.
I just don't know how any
athletes are deciding where,
where to go if they don't
know like what they're going for,
like what they're aiming for.
I'm with you.
I'm in your corner.
So yesterday, yeah,
on Coffee Pods and Wads
game show around the whiteboard,
John Young was a contestant.
He said something on there
that blew me away as a way
for events to make money.
And what it was was that you
sell merchandise for the
event that people might want to have.
So do like other sports do like the NFL,
how,
like if you're not playing and you're
on the sidelines,
you're outfitted in
different gear from that
team that you can is
available for sale on the
website to get immediately.
Make it so that when you check in,
you have to be wearing the shirt.
From the competition.
So that all those videos
going out shows that
merchandise being worn by the athletes.
And then it will make it a
hotter item that people
will want to have because
they saw Emily Roth wear it
or they saw Jeff Adler wear
it or whatever.
And I thought it was brilliant.
So lightweight.
Kind of like if Rogue were
to put their baseball
jerseys on sale or their Crocs.
Well, they did put their Crocs on sale,
right?
But put them on sale
beforehand so you can also
show up with the same gear.
Yeah, exactly.
And maybe market it a little
bit before the event.
Be prepared for it.
Yeah.
Right?
So market it like, hey,
if you're coming to Wadapalooza,
here's our official Wadapalooza shirt.
Get it now to
So you could be sporting the
official water Palooza
shirt as you're walking in.
I think the Jersey sales
they tried to do last year
would have been really cool.
Except for like when I, the two I ordered,
I got four months after water Palooza.
Ooh, that's not good.
So I think rogue is a great example.
Those baseball jerseys just, you know, the,
the athletes get them with
their names on the back,
but you get it to just says
rogue on the back.
Like they do that in college
football where like, I don't know,
Kirk Cousins is playing for
Michigan state and you're a
big Kirk Cousins fan and
he's number eight.
I don't even know what his
number was up there.
Um,
but you got one that said Michigan
state on the back with a number eight.
Yeah.
Right.
But the same Jersey.
So trying to make it relatable.
Um, so anyway,
I thought that was really cool,
but then the owner of go
wad and Vicky from
Australia kind of poo pooed his idea.
And while it may not be the
game changer that saves the world,
it's thinking outside the
box from what we've been doing.
And I think he deserves credit for that.
What didn't they like about the idea?
I think they just didn't
think it was make would
make enough money.
Kenneth,
the tier jerseys that you're referencing,
that's what I got four
months after the event.
So tier was the title
sponsor last year at Wadapalooza too?
So see the Emily Rolfe jersey?
Yeah.
That's the tier Wadapalooza jersey.
I just got it four months
after Wadapalooza.
Yeah, that sucks.
so I i just wanted to give
john young credit I thought
that was very out of the
box thinking for how to
like make some money with
merchandise for an event I
see carolyn carolyn saying
the question on the show
was whether crossfit could
do it without sponsors it
was a crossfit events
CrossFit putting an event on
and not get in that,
like not CrossFit the entity,
but it could be what a Palooza rogue.
Okay.
Could events survive without sponsorships,
but it dove off a little
bit in the answers.
And regardless of this was
to make it survive,
it was a great idea to make
a little more money on
merchandise than you typically would.
The other thing though,
I don't know is if tears
are kind of sponsored,
do they get all the money?
Right.
I don't know,
but maybe that can be negotiated in.
I mean, I would assume that if tear bet,
put up a number,
if they want to donate 500,000 and they,
sell a hundred thousand
dollars worth of shirts
then they really only have
to put up four hundred
thousand I guess I don't
know how that would look I
think holly sums it up for
me it would make some money
and get some extra
attention at least yeah not
you know because you're
gonna sell them out so it's
not like any extra cost to you
you put up in a couple of IG ads saying,
Hey, check out these shirts.
They're going to be at the event.
Yeah.
I mean,
you could almost do it as a presale
only essentially.
And whatever gets,
whatever gets sold gets
made and that's it.
And then you don't make,
you don't make a bunch and
you don't bring them to the event.
You don't have to have a vendor there.
You don't have to have all
those supplies there.
Like,
Do it.
Just put it out there.
Sell what you can.
And sometimes that... Okay.
We're going to dive into an ugly hole.
Okay.
So Carolyn says,
I still don't know why T or
CrossFit Noble don't have
shirts with athletes' names
on them on their site.
Athletes get a kickback too.
What really baffles my mind
is when you go to the Rogue Invitational,
Rogue...
doesn't have all their
shirts made and out on
display you can get them
made fresh right there they
have a press that makes the
shirt at Rogue it's done in
like 30 seconds
you get your shirt and you get to move on.
Why can't you have the prints of,
of athletes and you're only
putting it on the shirt
that someone wants.
You're making it right then
and there 30 seconds done, boom,
hand it to him, sell it.
And you're only using up the
shirts that are being sold.
Right.
And the only thing you might
be out of is a couple of
screen prints that
That didn't get used.
So I don't know why that doesn't happen.
Why it took four months for
me to get shirts after
Waterpalooza when I ordered
them two months before.
It should not take six
months to get a shirt.
It should not.
We are well aware we've got
people in this game, in the shirt game,
that will do shirts and on
time and I don't know.
Everybody wears, if you follow sports,
you wear jerseys.
I agree with Carolyn.
They should be on the game
site all year round with
athletes' name on them.
I agree.
Maybe Go Ruck will, I don't know,
maybe Go Ruck will pick up
on something like that.
I don't,
that never seemed to be Noble's thing.
Like, they had their eight athletes that
they wanted to showcase and that was it.
I don't think they were ever
going to pick up other athletes.
I think you probably could get their,
their eight athletes stuff all the time.
Rad had a handheld printer
at Wadapalooza to do your
own tote bag with.
Yeah.
It's not hard people.
It sounds like it makes too much sense.
Yeah, I don't know.
We'll have to, you know,
keep pushing it on a go rock,
maybe come up with something like that.
So now that I've praised
John Young for his great idea,
we're going to talk about
what else he did last night.
Just briefly.
Okay.
And that is his infatuation
with topography.
Okay.
And if you're going to
challenge me on that word,
No, I got the word.
Okay.
Talking to Judy or whoever's
going to try to call me out.
So he loves his mountains.
He loves his base camps.
He loves his canyons.
He loves his cliffs.
So we're going to talk
briefly about Comeback Canyon.
Okay.
And I'm going to try to share my screen.
And I don't want to, it was a great idea.
He generates so much interest on this.
Yeah.
You know, I applaud him for that.
And it gives us something to talk about.
So I screenshot come back Canyon.
It's beautiful.
So what this is supposed to represent is.
It's people who can climb
their way up out of the canyon.
The further down the canyon they are,
the higher,
the harder the climb is supposed to be.
I don't know.
I'm not even going to talk
about Luka Jukic because I
didn't understand what he
was talking about him being up there.
I don't understand why he's on this thing.
And his explanation made no
sense to me about that.
But
I did want to point out,
he said that Ricky Garrard
was the tallest because he
got hurt last year, didn't make the games,
and he's going to go from
not making it to possibly
podiuming or winning the CrossFit Games.
So that's the biggest comeback.
That's why he's at the
bottom of the canyon,
and it would be the biggest comeback.
His definition,
just telling you what he said.
Okay.
But my immediate point was, well,
why wouldn't Tia be right
there beside him?
Totally agree.
She didn't make the games last year.
She sure as hell has as much
a chance to win the
CrossFit Games as Ricky Garrard does.
And to me, that's just as big a comeback.
Yes.
She should be number one.
My other point to this is
there needs to be a place
for Saxon Pancheck.
If Brooks on their Saxon
should be on there.
He got hurt at semifinals.
Yeah.
And did not make it back to
the games last year.
He is a perennial top 10 athlete.
There is no reason to think he,
he's still mid twenties.
There's no reason to think
he can't climb up out of
that and be back in a top
10 position next year.
I agree.
So I,
Two big misses on my opinion.
The other one is Jacqueline Dahlstrom.
She has shown nothing that
tells me she's going to
make it back to the games.
Her off-season comps,
and I love Jacqueline.
She's been on the show like
two or three times.
She's awesome.
Always talk to her at events,
but her performance at
Dubai was not great.
She did not just barely miss
going to the games at the
European semifinals.
She was like 18th.
Yeah.
So for her to be up there
that it's just a small comeback,
not sure about that.
Yeah, there's a few on here.
I agree with Luca.
We talked about that a little bit.
And Ken says swap out Luca for Fusile.
I could see that.
I'd like that swap.
If you put Fusil, yeah.
I'd like to see Annika somewhere on here.
Well,
she's not coming back from anything
because she never made it.
Gotcha.
Oh, he's trying.
Okay, he's saying past games athletes.
Gotcha.
But I would swap out Rebecca
for Dahlstrom.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's some interesting picks here.
So there's that.
I then wanted to go to his cliff.
There we go.
How is Spiegel in the canyon
and on the cliff?
I don't get it.
So his explanation was
that he could easily see her
make it back to the games
and be on the comeback Canyon.
He could just as easily see
her not make the games and
then decide that her
CrossFit career is over.
Okay.
So, and so the Canyon is you're done.
You're out and can't be, I mean,
there's people are not done.
And is that you're going to come back.
The cliff is your careers.
You're going to drop.
And again,
John's explanation.
So it's his picks.
It doesn't make sense.
Okay,
so he thinks Ariel is going to drop
from her position,
not be out of the games,
but he's saying Spiegel's
down here because she's
done and her career is just over.
Those are two very separate
levels of... Very much.
And I think he separated them as like,
The three on the left.
But he said,
I think he even said
Kerstetter wouldn't make the games.
Okay.
That he was not impressed
with her Wadapalooza performance.
It's the offseason.
Yeah.
A lot can change in three months.
Ariel won't get third again.
I'm not going to counter out on anything.
You just never know with
programming what it's going to be.
Right.
So, but just dropping a place,
I don't think should put you on a cliff.
Yeah.
Even dropping like five, six places.
Like, I mean, I don't, yeah, that's not a,
that's not a cliff.
Like you aren't just
dropping off the face of this mountain.
A clock says,
didn't he say that a Spiegel
misses this year?
She's never getting back.
She fell off the cliff and is done.
I think he said that in a
way that also said that she
would make that choice not
to compete again.
Like, that she didn't need all this mess.
She'll go do her other stuff
and leave this behind.
Ariel is very well-rounded.
I agree.
I don't think Ariel should
be on this list.
I will tell you who should
be on this list.
And I hate being negative,
but Jamie Simmons...
She can't get through an event anymore.
Right.
She just keeps getting hurt.
And it's not that she's not
a great athlete or wasn't a
great athlete.
Her body is just compromised now.
She tried to do an event
this weekend and could not finish.
Yep.
So I would substitute Jamie for Ariel.
The other one is Alex Caron,
I think should be on this
list more than Alex Vigneault.
Agree.
Alex Vigneault always comes
up with what he needs to
come up with to just be the
perennial games athlete.
I don't see him falling off from that.
I don't see him getting worse than that.
Caron's peck is not going to
let him compete.
Yeah, I think he's done.
And he's at a spot in his
career where it is probably
the end until he would
decide to go to Masters or something.
So I would replace Alex
Vigneault with Alex Caron.
The only explanation I could
see from John is that maybe
Caron is already off the cliff.
I could see that.
Nick Matthew,
everybody's picking on him
right now because he's just
posting heavyweights.
But it's the offseason.
Like, people aren't dialed in yet.
Yeah.
Let's see what he looks like.
I looked at a video of
either you or I
interviewing him at semis.
Like, dude's ripped.
Yeah.
This is January.
It doesn't matter till May.
Yeah.
I mean, you don't want them peaked now.
If they look too good now,
we may have a problem.
Yeah.
So just wanted to kind of go over that.
I do think what John is doing is fun.
The, it gives us something to talk about,
right?
Yeah.
Um, so I thank him for that.
Uh,
it's a very creative way of looking at
it too.
And my mouse is, there we go.
So the last thing I had on
my list was you're going
into the weekend with a
chance for your football
team to go to the super bowl.
I know a team.
the only nfc team to never
go to a super bowl and how
old are the lions old old
yeah they've been around
for all of the super bowls
yep yes and they've made
none of them yeah I know
and now they're standing on
the doorstep carolyn that's so mean
So what do you think your
chances are this weekend?
I'd like to think good.
Like, I mean, they, I don't know.
Like,
I know you just can't get your hopes
up too high as a Lions fan.
You just can't.
Like, is it what?
Oh, he is.
Aaron saying Laporte is out.
Like that's not good.
Breaking news from Aaron Latimer.
I thought he would.
I thought, I mean,
everything I keep reading
is like it hit the bone.
Bruce feels better each day.
He can pivot.
So I don't know.
I'll have to look for news on that.
They picked the,
one of the refs that they
picked is not good.
4-0.
It's not about the refs.
Yes, it is.
4-0 for the Niners.
1-5 for the Lions.
So, not good.
And we have a history with
refs just not in our favor.
But, yeah.
I think more importantly is
if Debo plays this weekend
for the Niners.
If not, I think you have a great chance.
Yeah.
When you bring up the refs,
I mean,
if anyone watched that reporting
call and you weren't a bit miffed,
I don't know what game you were watching.
Okay.
X's and O's.
I actually think the Lions have a shot.
I think they have a good shot.
I actually probably will pick them to win.
Yeah, throw 20 bucks on them.
But speaking of that and your excuses,
I brought this up on Monday.
You know,
we always rip the judges at
different events and I am a
really bad culprit about all that.
And after watching the NFL
this last weekend,
those refs get paid and they're terrible.
Yeah.
When I watch hockey,
I'm yelling at the TV.
Yeah.
When I'm watching baseball,
there's bad calls.
They have instant replay.
They get paid.
They are professionals.
The Andrew Stens of the
world are out there
volunteering their ass off,
and they're doing a pretty damn good job.
I agree.
So I think we should cheers
to the CrossFit judges for
what you do out there
Yeah.
And you're just as good as
every other professional sports league.
Yeah.
I saw a funny meme that was
basically said it's Eminem
versus Taylor Swift.
Well, not yet.
Well, if, if we get there, but yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think, I don't think the, uh,
I don't think the chiefs are making it.
You don't know.
Interesting.
I think, I think, you know,
some seasons you just have
these stories that line up.
Yeah.
And I think that it's one
Lamar Jackson gets to a super bowl.
to kind of show that he is
really a great quarterback
and to the lions make a run.
And maybe I watched way too much.
Welcome to Rexham, but like,
it just feels like the it's
the lines here.
It does feel that way.
Um, I don't know who they have time.
Show us.
Oh, sure.
Oh, interesting.
I can get down.
Yeah, it is.
It is their time.
It's much needed.
So,
and you can tell they're like fighting
for more than just
themselves and their team,
even like they're fighting for the city.
They're like, they clearly,
it's amazing to me.
Like they post the decibel
meter in the stands and,
and the other teams have
said that it's the loudest state.
Like they can't,
the other teams can't hear
because our stadium is so loud.
It's just incredible.
It really is.
And they're in my favorite team's division,
so I'm supposed to hate them.
But I just feel like it's
lining up for them.
Fingers crossed.
So, well, that's all I think I have.
Do you have anything else to
add for the week?
Nope.
I've got an in-house camp Saturday.
In-house?
In-house.
Running an in-house camp
just for our members.
How many events?
It'll be five events, six scores.
One of them is like a double lift.
Damn.
A lift.
I know.
They got to go like every
hour and 10 minutes.
That's a long day.
Yeah.
It's like they'll start at
10 and they'll be done by
3.30 if we run on time.
Will any of them be able to
walk on Sunday?
Yeah.
So myself, Veronica, Jim –
and Haley, our new member, um,
all tested and actually Lucas,
my son tested them on Sunday.
Oh, we tested all but one.
So we, and we went like back, back, back,
maybe 15, 20 minutes in between.
Um, and we were all pretty fine on Monday.
Um,
and Haley and I even like scale up the
workouts and the heavier
weight than the members will do and,
or more reps.
So
Yeah, I think they'll be okay.
It's not a ton of squatting.
None of them know,
so if any of them are watching,
which I know some of them do tune in.
Yeah, I don't know.
We got like a cardio one,
rowing and shuttles.
That's the first one,
just a little warm-up event.
And then they'll lift, do some snatches,
and a one-rep max clean.
And then a wall walk and jump rope one,
like a progressive jump rope.
They'll go from single-unders to...
double unders to crossovers
a lot of our members can't
really do the crossovers
very well so they're
nervous about that but
it'll be fun just you know
progressive move along see
how far you can get yeah
sounds great yeah we'll see
how it goes they've been
asking for something
hopefully just get some
keyed up for the open get a
few of them we've got like
19 people doing it and
seven more coming in and
helping judging so it
should be a good day yeah sounds fun
I hope you enjoy that.
I'll take some video,
put together a little reel,
throw some clips up.
Cool.
Well, with that, everybody,
thank you so much for being
with us tonight.
And we will be back next
week for Thursday Night CrossFit Talk.
You guys are the best.
Thank you for being there.
Bye, guys.