WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:04.879 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a couple of friends talk 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:12.279 about the Bible in fun, in practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome 3 00:00:12.279 --> 00:00:16.679 to another episode, presuming that you've listened before to the Bible Guys. My 4 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:20.519 name is Chris, and this is Quinn because Jeff is off in another country 5 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:24.160 somewhere, and so Quinn you, yeah, you were a guest on Monday. 6 00:00:24.519 --> 00:00:27.440 Yes, I was a guest on Monday and excited to be back. 7 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:31.600 Yes, And we are excited to have you. And actually I'm most excited 8 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:36.000 about this segment that we're gonna do with you because Quinn again has only been 9 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:38.840 on here once, so you may not know him. And honestly, he's 10 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:41.840 only been on the staff with our church for only a few months, so 11 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:44.960 I don't know him as well as I would like to. But he's gonna 12 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:48.039 give me two truths and a lie, and I'm gonna have to guess and 13 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:50.119 see which one's to lie. Who are we allowed to lie on the Bible 14 00:00:50.159 --> 00:00:54.560 guys? We love it? Well, only if that's another segment for another 15 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:57.679 Only if you've ever told a lie in your life? Okay, all right 16 00:00:57.719 --> 00:00:59.359 too, truth and a lie? And then if we got time. You're 17 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:00.560 gonna do it too. So you but you didn't know this was coming. 18 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:03.479 I did, so I'm prepared. You got to just come up with something. 19 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:04.280 Yeah, I'm fine, you could do that. I'm so. You're 20 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:07.319 a witty guy. I am. He's good looking, he's witty. What 21 00:01:07.400 --> 00:01:10.079 can he do? All right too, Trista and Rye? All right? 22 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:14.040 You ready? Yep? I love to fly. I love being in the 23 00:01:14.079 --> 00:01:18.079 sky. I love being on an airplane. Oh you mean in an airplane 24 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:21.719 being You don't mean like Superman. That would be cool if I could do 25 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:23.239 that. Yeah, but you love to fly, I got it. Okay. 26 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:27.719 I have been to forty two different states. Okay. The third one 27 00:01:27.799 --> 00:01:36.840 is I have won multiple food eating competitions. Uh, there's no way that 28 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:40.799 you have won. Well, wait a minute, you did say overeating on 29 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:46.040 Monday. You did say you did say overeating. So I want to did 30 00:01:46.079 --> 00:01:49.879 that to throw them off. Yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna say the 31 00:01:49.920 --> 00:01:53.560 food competition is feasible. So I'm gonna I'm gonna lean toward the truth. 32 00:01:53.640 --> 00:02:00.879 There, you've been to forty two states or you love to fly? Okay, 33 00:02:00.959 --> 00:02:07.039 I'm gonna go with you don't love to fly. You're correct. I 34 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:13.680 used to travel. My first ministry gig out of out of high school was 35 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:16.599 I was a traveling preacher, but we traveled around travel with the traveling Youth 36 00:02:16.599 --> 00:02:20.960 group. But we traveled around on a bus. And I've been to forty 37 00:02:20.960 --> 00:02:23.280 two states and then recently I got to go to Hawaii with my wife, 38 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:28.280 which was pretty cool. But I didn't always hate flying. But coming back 39 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.400 from Hawaii when the turbulence was this and it's shaking, and this thing's falling, 40 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:35.560 oh dropping for an hour, I'm like Ever since then, I don't 41 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:37.879 like flying anymore. I don't enjoy it. Well, I mean, it'll 42 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.400 do it to you. Yeah. I've been in some scary turbulence where I 43 00:02:40.400 --> 00:02:45.080 actually thought I was convinced we were gonna go down. Yeah, but nobody 44 00:02:45.159 --> 00:02:46.960 else was worried. You know what I always do whenever I freak out, 45 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:51.479 as I look at the flight attendants. If the flight attendants are calm, 46 00:02:51.520 --> 00:02:53.080 then I'm good. If they freak out, you start praying. Well yeah, 47 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:57.759 if they freak out, I know everybody's in trouble, right, but 48 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:01.039 I just look at them and if they're just literally I just to hohum I'm 49 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:04.840 just like, Okay, then I have to be I have to calm down 50 00:03:04.879 --> 00:03:07.479 here, right, Yeah, So I don't. I don't love flying. 51 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:09.439 I haven't always hated it. I hate it more now than I'm getting older, 52 00:03:09.520 --> 00:03:13.240 and I'll probably get more motion sickness and stuff, but I had when 53 00:03:13.240 --> 00:03:15.759 I was younger. I've won a few uh eating competitions. I want a 54 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:20.759 cupcake eating competition. One time at a little church Halloween event, it was 55 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:23.360 like first one to eat half a dozen cupcakes and I just throw threw those 56 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:27.960 things back like skittles. Wow. And then one time at we grew up 57 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:32.080 uh downriver and so out in UH. I think we were in Monroe at 58 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:36.520 like an apple festival and I was walking or a pumpkin festival or something. 59 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.759 I was walking down this festival and they had a pumpkin pie eating contest and 60 00:03:38.800 --> 00:03:42.280 I was like eight or nine, and I missed, true story, I 61 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:45.520 missed my division. But there were the teenagers were about to go, like 62 00:03:45.560 --> 00:03:46.759 the thirteen through eighteen. They're like, you could do it with the teenagers. 63 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:51.319 And I beat all the teenagers and he ate they. I think they 64 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.240 quartered the pumpkin pies and you had to eat a quarter of a pumpkin pie 65 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:57.159 with just your face. And wow, I did that better than all that. 66 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:59.039 Now were you a bigger guy back then? Yeah? I was a 67 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.960 little bit bigger. Yeah, okay, all right, wow well good well 68 00:04:02.039 --> 00:04:05.879 hey man, First of all, thank you for you know, airing out 69 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:11.319 that laundry, but also pat on my back. Hang on, let me 70 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:15.319 oh pat myself? Uh because I because they got it right, that's right. 71 00:04:15.399 --> 00:04:18.560 Yeah. Okay, here's real quick. We have a couple of seconds. 72 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.839 I'm gonna give you two or three very fast things. Okay, I'm 73 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:29.720 ready. Number one, I have saved somebody's life from drowning twice, two 74 00:04:29.759 --> 00:04:34.920 different people. Number two, I've gotten two hold ones on legitimate golf courses. 75 00:04:35.759 --> 00:04:46.360 And number three, I have two five hundred comic books in mostly mint 76 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:53.240 condition in my attic. I think I've heard you tell the golf story before, 77 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:56.879 so I'm pretty sure that's true. So the false one's either got to 78 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.439 be the comic books or the drowning. I'm gonna go with the drowning. 79 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:02.839 I'm gonna say, you haven't saved two people from drowning. Uh yeah, 80 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:08.360 so I only saved one person from down Yeah and so and so, Yeah, 81 00:05:08.360 --> 00:05:10.600 that is actually the false one. But I I, you know, 82 00:05:10.879 --> 00:05:14.519 I do hold in ones. That's impressive. Well, they were totally lucky, 83 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:16.879 but I had I had to hang on to a thread of truth. 84 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.040 I saved a kid from drowning one time. So I just thought, I'll 85 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:24.079 say convincingly by saying it's two. But I actually do have a bunch of 86 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:28.240 comics somatic that I, you know, collected and grew up reading. And 87 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:30.519 then uh, and then yeah, I luckily get two hold ones. That's 88 00:05:30.560 --> 00:05:34.079 great. Yeah, so good job, and we both won a good job, 89 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:39.040 buddy, way to go. Wow, that was riveting, riveting, 90 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:45.319 I tell you yeah about me. My birthdays actually on Friday. Nobody cares. 91 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:51.040 That's nobody cares, like Starbucks. That's funny. I just snorted. 92 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:56.720 Okay, so today, Quinn, you were going to be reading from Job 93 00:05:56.839 --> 00:06:02.639 chapter three. Uh, this is actually the the heading says the three Friends 94 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:08.600 answer Job, and then this is Job's first speech. So we're gonna read 95 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:11.839 verses one through twenty six. All right, you guys ready, Yeah, 96 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:19.160 Job three, here we go. At last, Job spoke and he cursed 97 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:23.079 the day of his birth. He said, let the day of my birth 98 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:26.600 be raised. And the night I was conceived. Let the day be turned 99 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:30.879 into darkness. Let it be lost even to God on high, and let 100 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:33.560 no light shine on it. Let the darkness and utter gloom claim that day 101 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:38.560 for its own. Let a black cloud overshadow it, and let the darkness 102 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:42.680 terrify it. Let the night be blotted out off the calendar, never again 103 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:45.759 to be counted among the days of the year, never again to appear among 104 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:49.079 the months. Let that night be childless, Let it have no joy. 105 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:57.439 Let those who were experts at cursing, who's cursing could ruse Leviathan curse that 106 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:01.639 day wow. Let its morning stars remain dark. Let it hope for light, 107 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:05.439 but in vain. May it never see the morning light. Curse that 108 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:10.439 day for failing to shut my mother's womb, for letting me be born to 109 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:14.519 see all this trouble. Why wasn't I born dead? Why didn't I die 110 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.759 as I came from the womb? Why was I laid on my mother's lap? 111 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:21.360 Why did she nurse me at her breasts? Had I died at birth, 112 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:25.360 I would now be at peace. I would be asleep and at rest. 113 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:30.120 I would rest with the world's kings and prime ministers, whose great buildings 114 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.399 now lie in ruins. I would rest with princes rich in gold, whose 115 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:38.399 palaces were filled with silver. Why wasn't I buried like a stillborn child, 116 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:41.720 like a baby who never lives to see the light. For in death, 117 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:45.720 the wicked cause no trouble, and the weary are at rest. Even captives 118 00:07:45.759 --> 00:07:48.800 are at ease and death when no guards to curse them. Rich and poor 119 00:07:48.879 --> 00:07:54.199 are both there, and the slave is free from his master. Oh, 120 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:57.720 why give the light to those in misery and life to those who are bitter? 121 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.720 They long for death and it won't come. They search for death more 122 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.680 eagerly than for hidden treasure. They're filled with joy when they finally die, 123 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:09.959 and rejoice when they find the grave. Why is life given to those with 124 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:16.519 no future? Those God has surrounded with difficulties? I cannot eat for sighing. 125 00:08:16.560 --> 00:08:20.959 My groans pour out like water. What I always feared has happened to 126 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:24.759 me. What I dreaded has come true. I have no peace, no 127 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:31.919 quietness, no rest, only trouble colms. Yeah, this could be one 128 00:08:31.960 --> 00:08:39.799 of the most heart wrenching speeches probably in the Bible. And notice that he 129 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:46.759 doesn't curse God. There's no sin, there's no it actually doesn't even seem 130 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:52.600 to include any type of anger because he's not angry. He doesn't pass blame. 131 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:56.399 In fact, I don't know if you caught it, but did you 132 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:01.039 catch how many times you read the word Why? Why wasn't I born dead? 133 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:05.279 Why wasn't I late in my mother's lap? Why was I born this 134 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.919 way? Why wasn't I buried like a stillborn child? You know? Why 135 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:13.120 is life given to those future? He asked over and over that one question 136 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.360 that we talked about a lot of questions yesterday with Kyle, which was which 137 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:20.200 was you know, you don't know the why of some things, some bad 138 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:26.320 things happening. But let me also point this out as well, and that 139 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.000 is, you know, it stuck out to me this time that I read 140 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:33.000 this, and I've never thought of this any other time I've ever read this, 141 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.120 is that at any given time that he was talking about that, he 142 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:41.840 never contemplated or indicated that he was going to take his own life. Right, 143 00:09:43.440 --> 00:09:46.320 So he said, why couldn't I have been born as a stillborn child 144 00:09:46.360 --> 00:09:50.679 who's at peace? You know, comparing it to you know, those who 145 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.120 are living in misery, Because those who live in misery, they long for 146 00:09:54.240 --> 00:10:00.879 death. But he said, he said, they're finally glad when does come. 147 00:10:01.480 --> 00:10:05.399 But nowhere in the scripture does he actually say that he wants it to 148 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:09.480 end or take my life now. And you know, we later on we 149 00:10:09.519 --> 00:10:13.480 read that Elijah actually has those thoughts. Right, Elijah says it's better for 150 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:16.320 me to die, like you know, he wants his life to end because 151 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:22.480 he's so depressed running from Queen Jezebel. But nowhere does Job indicate that. 152 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:26.120 And I think that that's really important because there's probably a lot of people out 153 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:33.879 there and if you consider Job's misery, chances are it's probably more miserable than 154 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:37.919 any listener out there. Yeah. I mean he lost everything. His lifestock 155 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:41.879 is family and everything you can think of. And not only did he lose 156 00:10:41.919 --> 00:10:46.159 everything, but God is directly to blame. See a lot of times we 157 00:10:46.200 --> 00:10:48.279 say, oh, that just was happenstance, that was this? Okay, 158 00:10:48.360 --> 00:10:52.200 guess what. It was a large gust of wind that came and blew down 159 00:10:52.279 --> 00:10:56.639 the walls where his daughters were eating with their oldest brother. And it was 160 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:01.720 a god. Even even the insurance company calls that an act of God. 161 00:11:01.240 --> 00:11:05.919 Right, So it was an act of God that took away his family's life. 162 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:11.759 It was fire that came down from the skies that burned up his sheep 163 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:16.480 and his in his crops. Right, So so it was it wasn't just 164 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.080 that everything was taken from him. It was that he had no other place 165 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:24.120 to blame except for God. Like like, it is very obvious that supernatural 166 00:11:24.159 --> 00:11:28.960 things have done this to me, so you know, and and again we 167 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:33.840 know that that was Satan attacking him, but he could have very easily interpreted 168 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:37.799 it as God is to blame. Now. Job seemed like a good person. 169 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.679 It seemed like he had his affairs in order. And I used to 170 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.600 when I was a youth pastor for a long time, we would always do 171 00:11:43.639 --> 00:11:46.559 a series where we would ask let the teens ask random questions. They could 172 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:50.759 ask whatever they want. Sometimes he would get goofy questions. You get dumb 173 00:11:50.799 --> 00:11:56.080 questions a kid would ask, could could God could Jesus microwave a burritos so 174 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.200 hot that he himself could not eat it? You know, sometimes you get 175 00:11:58.240 --> 00:12:03.000 those questions I've never heard that in quite that way. Or could God create 176 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:07.080 a mountain that he couldn't move? Yeah? You know, but sometimes you 177 00:12:07.080 --> 00:12:09.399 would get some serious questions. And this one came up a lot. I'm 178 00:12:09.399 --> 00:12:11.960 sure you heard it before. So I'm about to ask you a deep theological 179 00:12:11.080 --> 00:12:15.120 question. Oh sure, you don't know what's coming, but I'd love to 180 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:18.679 get your perspective on it. And Job was probably thinking this. He's probably 181 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.320 thinking, why do bad things happen to good people? And I'm sure there's 182 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:26.879 people watching this who have thought that and would love to hear your perspective on 183 00:12:26.960 --> 00:12:30.159 it. Why do bad things happen to good people? Yeah? Well, 184 00:12:30.159 --> 00:12:33.919 I honestly believe that. First of all, that is I just want to 185 00:12:33.919 --> 00:12:37.039 acknowledge the fact that that is the number one question, that's the hottest question 186 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.759 in the world today when it comes to God. Right, So we all 187 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.919 know that tragedies happen. Bad things happen like forces of nature, Like we 188 00:12:46.080 --> 00:12:52.080 just talked about innocent babies. You cancoct diseases, right, Tragedies happen where 189 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:58.039 evil men commit heinous acts of crime, and there's victims left and right. 190 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.440 So whether it's whether it's a natural disaster or whether it's the will of man, 191 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:07.759 whatever, And and here's what I believe. I believe the short answer 192 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:13.600 is I referred to it, yes, and yesterday's podcast romans A tells us 193 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:16.600 that we live in a broken and messed up world. We live in a 194 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:20.399 world that is under the disease and the curse of sin. Right, So 195 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:24.720 when when when God created Adam and Eve, when he created the garden, 196 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:26.120 it was perfection. There was no weeds that came out of the ground. 197 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.279 So, in other words, uh, when when when sin changed? When 198 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:37.600 sin changed the world, it literally changed the Earth's DNA, It changed humanity's 199 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.039 DNA, because then disease came to be a thing. Uh, you know 200 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:46.120 it, death became a thing, right, and so uh, And so 201 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:50.639 here's what I believe. I believe that God created us with free will. 202 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:56.519 And the reason why he created us with free will is because true love cannot 203 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:00.559 exist without free will, because because you can't. If he if he would 204 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:03.360 have created us all like robots and forced us to love him, then great, 205 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.519 there's no chance for evil or death or wrongdoing or sin. But that's 206 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:11.639 not true love. But God created us for relationship and for love, and 207 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:16.440 true love cannot exist without free will. And so therefore mankind had free will. 208 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:22.559 Mankind chose sin sin. The punishment for sin was death. We live 209 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:26.399 in a broken and messed up world. And so there are consequences for sin 210 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:30.559 now the acts of God, you know, tidal waves and things like that. 211 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.919 I believe it's because the DNA of the earth changed. I believe that 212 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.279 that was not a God's original design. From the garden of Eden. I 213 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:43.080 believe that we don't know why God doesn't swoop in to intervene and stop all 214 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:48.759 evil. We don't know why, but we do know that God says that 215 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:54.080 one day he will stop all evil. Right, one day he will conquer 216 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:58.279 and cast Satan into the lake of fire, and he'll be bound and changed 217 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:01.360 up for a thousand years. One day God will defeat all evil. But 218 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:05.039 in the meantime, God has not chosen to defeat all evil. So the 219 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:09.480 consequences of sin have played out from the guard of Eni until this day. 220 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:15.320 And God tarries, and he gives the reason why he tarries because he it's 221 00:15:15.360 --> 00:15:20.279 his wish that everybody would have the chance to be saved, to know his 222 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:26.600 love. So he is patient in his second coming. And and one last 223 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:31.840 thought, one last thought is I believe that a lot of times when we 224 00:15:31.879 --> 00:15:39.080 want to place blame and there's nowhere up there's no person to blame, then 225 00:15:39.240 --> 00:15:43.519 then we we we have no choice in our reasoning, sometimes in our warped 226 00:15:43.519 --> 00:15:46.320 reasoning. But the places at the feet of God. But I believe that 227 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:52.639 God, you know, most likely sits up there, you know, saying 228 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:56.320 why are you blaming me? You know this is this is a consequence of 229 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.840 the world that mankind has created. Yeah, and God's not to violate free 230 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.080 will. He's not going to make that person go steal Robert Bank, kill 231 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:07.919 you, become a drunk driver. Whatever that person chose to do, that 232 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:11.080 was that person's choosing. God didn't cause that. So you've probably heard that 233 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:12.759 a lot. I've heard that of Christians saying, oh, God's punishing me 234 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:15.960 or God's doing this to me, and that's that's not the character of God. 235 00:16:17.159 --> 00:16:19.000 Well, I hear I hear people talk all the time about like, 236 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:25.000 you know, like a child will die for instance, and then and then 237 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:26.480 they'd say, in fact, let me let me tell you a real life 238 00:16:26.480 --> 00:16:30.360 example. There was there was a there was a funeral that I did not 239 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:33.879 actually do, but I heard about where there was a little four year old 240 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:40.039 kid who was on a tricycle rolling down a steep driveway and the grandfather was 241 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:44.919 watching the child and the grandfather was chasing the child. The bike rolled out 242 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:47.799 and get rid over by ups truck. Wow, so the child dies, 243 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:52.120 right? So I remember it? Why because that's one of the most horrific 244 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:56.159 things I've ever heard, Right, and and uh, and that poor grandfather, 245 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.559 et cetera. Right, and then here and here's here's the reason why. 246 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:03.400 I also remember the story because a person got up at the funeral and 247 00:17:03.440 --> 00:17:10.599 said it was God's perfect will that that should happen. Right like God, 248 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:15.160 God allowed it and he and he caused it to happen for reasons that we 249 00:17:15.720 --> 00:17:19.279 just should accept. And my first instinct in my humanity is to say, 250 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:22.640 well, wait a minute, if that's true, I'm not sure I want 251 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.480 to serve a God like that. I'm not sure I want to serve a 252 00:17:26.519 --> 00:17:32.279 God who says it's my will, I choose for that to happen to that 253 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:37.000 family, right, And that's in my humanity, that's my emotions. Right. 254 00:17:37.400 --> 00:17:41.440 But even in my theology, I've come to understand and I fully believe, 255 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.759 the only explanation that makes sense. And by the way, it's the 256 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:51.039 only explanation that is able to connect the dots for every scripture given. If 257 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.720 you take every scripture given about who God is, his character, his nature, 258 00:17:55.119 --> 00:18:00.039 our free will, our predestination. You know about and death and disease. 259 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:06.440 You connect every truth together. The only explanation that I have found is 260 00:18:06.480 --> 00:18:10.480 that bad things happen because we live in a broken and messed up world. 261 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:12.960 And all of it, every bit of it, is a result of sin 262 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.559 and death and curse and disease. And God sheds a tear every time we 263 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:22.359 shed a tear. God is with our pain. God is with us always. 264 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:27.279 It is not God's will, perfect will, in my opinion, for 265 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:32.440 that child to get, you know, to have that tragedy, that's not 266 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:36.920 God's perfect will. That just happened. Like God didn't cause that driver to 267 00:18:37.279 --> 00:18:40.640 know down that road that day. No, it is that it is a 268 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.559 broken world. That's what we live in. We live in a world of 269 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:47.799 pain. It's a broken and messed up world. So, speaking of pain, 270 00:18:47.839 --> 00:18:51.039 if someone who's watching this, who's maybe they feel like Job. They're 271 00:18:51.039 --> 00:18:53.039 going through some hurt they're going through. Maybe they just feel lost. Maybe 272 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:56.079 they're out there breaking like Job's at his breaking. He's looking for peace. 273 00:18:56.160 --> 00:19:00.200 Multiple times in this chapter he says, I need peace or I need rest. 274 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.880 There's someone out there hurting, they're struggling, they're looking for peace and 275 00:19:03.920 --> 00:19:07.519 rest. What's your advice to that person? What did they do if they 276 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.359 see themselves as job and they're like, I'm struggling, I need help. 277 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:15.599 Yeah, So you know, it sort of goes back to yesterday's podcast, 278 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:18.519 but I'll say it in a different way today. Did you ever grew up 279 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.680 listening to Christian music? A little bit? A little bit I get a 280 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.599 little bit older when I'm probably a teenager. Yeah. Did you ever hear 281 00:19:25.599 --> 00:19:30.079 of an old group called New Song? There's still I think they may still 282 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:32.319 even be out there, the members of Switch, but I think they like 283 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:36.160 MC and winter Jam I went to one time or soth Oh did they? 284 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:41.440 So there's a song called Trust His Heart, and it says God is too 285 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:45.240 wise to be mistaken. God is too good to be unkind. So when 286 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:49.200 you when you don't understand, when you can't see his plan, when you 287 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:55.319 can't trace his hand, trust his heart. And what they're saying is is 288 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:59.000 there they're basically saying the same thing I said in yesterday's podcast, which is 289 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:02.319 when you don't know the why, I lean into the who. That's good, 290 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:07.440 right, lean into who God is because you know, the one thing 291 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:10.480 that we want more than anything else in this world is why. And that's 292 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:12.839 the one thing that we perhaps will never get this side of eternity for a 293 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:17.599 lot of tragedies. And so people would just they say, I'll be okay 294 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:22.160 if I just understood why. But the bottom line is is we could you 295 00:20:22.200 --> 00:20:26.119 know, the chances are will never know why, right, And I believe 296 00:20:26.119 --> 00:20:27.880 it's just we live in a broken world, that's it. You know, 297 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:33.359 I've set up at funerals before and I've said, why does you know bad 298 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:37.240 things happen to good people? And I said, I've been a pastor for 299 00:20:37.279 --> 00:20:41.759 thirty two years, i have a Bible degree, I've read hundreds of books, 300 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:47.960 I've had thousands of conversations, and my theological professional view is this crap 301 00:20:48.039 --> 00:20:51.400 happens, right, that's it. Right, that's it. So what do 302 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:53.559 we do about it when crap happens? Yeah, well it's leaning into the 303 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:57.359 character of God, you know. And you know, God is faithful. 304 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:00.279 God is still a God that's worthy of our praise. He's still worthy of 305 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:04.839 our trust. And just like Job said, Job said, shall we accept 306 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:08.799 the good and not accept bad? And so you know, we have no 307 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:14.759 choice because what do a Psalm seventy seven say to what other God are we 308 00:21:14.799 --> 00:21:18.200 going to run to? Right nowhere? There's nowhere else to go. God 309 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:22.200 is the God of the universe. Right But if God before us, who 310 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:25.680 could be against us? We have no other choice but to trust in God. 311 00:21:25.720 --> 00:21:29.440 Because God is a God that exists. He's the God in control. 312 00:21:29.720 --> 00:21:33.079 He's the God who is good, and his nature is good. So when 313 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:37.640 we suffer, you know that is our lot, and that is the world 314 00:21:37.680 --> 00:21:41.079 we live in, and that is a shame. And I tell you we 315 00:21:41.079 --> 00:21:44.640 don't wish it on to anybody. But through our pain, God is there, 316 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:48.640 and through the fire, God sometimes brings out refined gold. Right. 317 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:52.519 I think about the scripture that Jesus said, if you abide in me, 318 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:53.680 if you get close to me and stay close to me, I'll get close 319 00:21:53.720 --> 00:21:56.680 to you and stay close to you. If you abide in me, I'll 320 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:59.319 abide in you. And another scripture. You mentioned this a few days ago, 321 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.000 but I'm gonna read it in Matthew eleven. Jesus said, come to 322 00:22:02.039 --> 00:22:04.400 me all who are weary, and I will and carrie heavy burdens, and 323 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:07.079 I will give you rest. In verse twenty nine, take my yoke upon 324 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:11.240 you. Let me teach you because I'm humble and gentle at heart, and 325 00:22:11.279 --> 00:22:12.559 you will find rest. And so I think that's the answer, right if 326 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:15.599 you come to Jesus. His yoke the thing that and we talked about a 327 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:18.880 little bit the other day. But the yoke, the thing that kept the 328 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:22.279 Oxens together, was a big heavy thing that kept him. They had to 329 00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:26.880 walk in step. But Jesus said, my yoke is easy and it's light, 330 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.480 so it's not this big heavy thing that's connected. It's not hard to 331 00:22:29.480 --> 00:22:32.680 get connected to me. He's saying, it's real easy and it's light. 332 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:36.000 And so just calm, and you're gonna find rest, and you're gonna find 333 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:37.400 peace, and you're gonna find joy even when it's hard, even when it 334 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:41.559 seems impossible, which is a wide thought to think about, Like all I 335 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.119 have to do is get close to Jesus and eventually I'm gonna have peace, 336 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:45.400 rest and joy. But he is those things, like we were talking about 337 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.319 earlier, that's in his character, as he loves us and he gives peace, 338 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:52.279 and he is peace, and he is joy and he is rest, 339 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.799 and so is as hard as it is. I think what we're both saying 340 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:57.200 is we need to get close to Jesus and stay close to Jesus. That's 341 00:22:57.279 --> 00:23:00.440 right. And just to wrap it up, because our time is coming to 342 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.799 an end, I would just say, when looking at Job chapter number three, 343 00:23:03.960 --> 00:23:07.920 one of the saddest and probably most heart wrenching speeches in the Bible, 344 00:23:08.119 --> 00:23:12.880 just know that it says that Job did not sin, so it is not 345 00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:18.240 sinful to lament, to to be sorrowful. And you know, and and 346 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:22.720 and ask the question why this isn't a sin? But in all of this 347 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:26.079 Job did not sin. And and notice he did not ever contemplate taking his 348 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:30.920 own life, and and and good thing he didn't because the end of the 349 00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:33.759 story, for you know, spoiler alert, you know he's gonna end up 350 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:38.799 with twice as much blessings because of his faithfulness and and so you know, 351 00:23:40.119 --> 00:23:45.640 God, you never know what's around the corner. Don't give up, don't 352 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:51.359 don't you know, don't decide that God's not there, that God has stopped 353 00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:53.880 working, that God doesn't hear you, that God's abandoned. You don't give 354 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:59.200 up because you never know what tomorrow may bring. You never know what a 355 00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:02.000 year may be. You know what a difference a year may make, or 356 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:04.359 even a week for that matter. So and keep going to Jesus and your 357 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.240 doubt and your questioning. God's not offended by our questioning. We say, 358 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:10.359 God, why does this happen? Why this thing? Why that? That 359 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:12.680 doesn't offend God. I think he loves when we come to him and sit 360 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:17.599 at his feet and ask questions, even if it's things we don't understand. 361 00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:19.559 Right, that's great. Well, hey, that is our time and so 362 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:22.480 hopefully we will see you next time on the Bible. Guys,