What the Midwife Said

In this episode of What the Midwife Said, Leah chats to Tinuke Awe and Clo Abe who co-founded Five X More in response to a 2018 report that found that black women in the UK are five times more likely to die during pregnancy than white women.

The two mothers came together with the ambition of improving maternal mortality rates and health care outcomes for black women in the UK.

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What is What the Midwife Said?

Welcome to the podcast all about how babies and families are made.

In this series, working midwife, mother and bestselling author Leah Hazard speaks to remarkable women and men from all walks of life about fertility, birth, pregnancy and parenting.

She explores the way we see our bodies and our relationships, the choices we make as we build our families, and the highs and lows that those choices can bring.

No judgment, no shame.

Just real stories, and all the warmth, wit and compassion you’d expect from a visit with your favourite midwife.

Guests include dynamic, diverse voices - some familiar and some fresh - from Lorraine Kelly, Dr Amir Khan and Emma Barnett to athlete/adventurer Anna McNuff, author Katherine May, activists Tinuke Awe and Clotilde Abe who founded the FivexMore campaign highlighting racial disparities in maternal health, and many more.

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