Hello, guys. Welcome to the THB Strength podcast. I have next to me two of the smartest humans on the entire planet when it comes to jumping higher. And I will stand on that. I would I would take you guys.
Isaiah:I would put all my money on a debate, like a two on two debate, YouTube versus anybody I'd in the take it. Alright. So if you wanna take me on on on this bet
John:Find two people ready to compete.
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Isaiah:And if you wanna get coached by us, go to thpstrength.com. Link is in the description or in the pinned comment. You can get six free months when you buy the year plan. I got some questions for y'all. Yeah.
Isaiah:There's This is no prep. They have no idea. Straight off the dome. What I'm about to ask you guys. Last podcast, I told you guys to comment what questions you want us to give you.
John:Just making sure that's on. We're good.
Isaiah:Alright. And here's the first question. You ready?
John:I can't even look them all out.
Isaiah:How does height affect intramuscular forces? And then how does that affect externally applied forces?
John:Oh, that that's like a free body not a free body diagram. Let me see. So when you when you're looking at internal versus external moments, if you are taller, you have to overcome a greater disadvantage because as you squat deeper, for example, if you're using a squat, your joint is moving further away from the line of action. When you were are you gonna do? Oh.
John:Yeah. This is great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
John:So if Isaiah holds the holds this close to his body, right, and he pushes it out in front of him further, further, further, it's gonna feel heavier. Hard. Right? Because we've got a really long moment arm. Right?
John:And so he has to generate a lot of force internally to overcome the disadvantage that he's created. So as you're in when you're squatting, the weight isn't moving, but the axis of rotation is. So you are essentially the mass is in the same place, but your knees, as you squat deeper, if I'm like this, as I squat deeper, my knee is moving further away and my hip is moving further away. So to overcome that external torque, you have to generate more internal torque. Now when you look at internal torque, it's, I would be curious to hear your lens on this, Ben, but when you your insertion points are set.
John:So you can't change, for example, the height of your patella. You can't change where your patella inserts. You can't change where originates your patella tendon originates on the patella bone. When you're looking at the knee, you're looking at essentially the height of the patella, and if you have a higher patella, you would be at a more of, or I guess less, a mechanical disadvantage. That is what the patella does, is it changes the internal moment arm, and so that's one way that it changes.
John:When it comes to the Achilles, you're actually looking at the distance of the calcaneus. If you have a really long heel bone and your calcaneus, you know, were to stick really far outward, then you would have less of a mechanical disadvantage. Because the lever's in the body, I think the only one that you're at a mechanical advantage is the is the calf or the the foot. And you you know, unless your foot is really, really long, relative to someone who's really, really short, then, you know, you would probably have even more of a mechanical advantage there. But it's more so, you're better or worse off.
John:So if you have those mechanical advantages, you have to generate less force. So how this comes into height is not, it's not so much height per se, relative to, it's more so the anatomy of those bone distance, what those levers look like. Ben, do you agree with everything I said there?
Ben:Yeah. I can add to it if you want.
John:Yeah. Go ahead.
Ben:So when when you're when you're about like accelerating joints and like I have those videos about like why it's harder to jump higher when you're tall. So torque is equal to the mass moment of inertia times your angular acceleration, which means that your acceleration is inversely proportional to your mass, which which does not change, but mass moment of inertia is mass times radius squared. So when you have longer levers, you're you have a longer radius relative to where the mass is accelerating. And that's why you you to produce way higher torques in order to accelerate your limbs at fast enough speeds to jump high or run fast. So that's why it's really hard to be to be six ten with a 46 inch vertical or, you know, be a Usain Bolt and run a, you know, sub nine six.
Isaiah:And that's also if you've seen some of the videos, that I've posted and I put highest jumper above six feet, if you look at everybody who has tested a 50 inch vertical, they're all under six feet. And it's because of of what Ben Ben just said. That also changes. I have a I don't know if you guys can can answer this. How does that change how strong you need to be if you're a shorter lifter versus a taller lifter?
Isaiah:That When we're talking about, like, standards and stuff like
John:I mean, that gets into a couple different things. So firstly, if you're taller, then you have to overcome that mechanical disadvantage more. Because if, say, hypothetically, you had a twenty foot femur and, you know, a twenty foot tibia, then when you squat down, the mass, let's say it's hypothetically between under your foot and your knee joint is now 10 feet away and your hip joint's 10 feet away versus someone who's four foot, or maybe their femur is a foot and a half, they would only be relatively, you know, whatever half that is. Their their moment arm would be a lot shorter. So it's a lot harder to stand up when you're squatting all the way down and you've got your femur 10 feet away or your knee bone 10 feet away or knee joint 10 feet away, and you've got your hip 10 feet away.
John:It's gonna be really, really hard to stand up from that, and so you have to generate a ton of intramuscular force. So this is why if you're five foot four, you've gotta lift a ton more weight to be able to generate the intramuscular tension that someone who is a lot taller does. So you have to be a lot stronger when you're shorter to get the same intramuscular forces, which ultimately is going to dictate how high you jump. And jumping is not just one muscle contraction type. It's not just a concentric contraction type.
John:But the tension that you're generating is close to the absolute peak that that muscle can generate, and especially when you're doing it in two fifty milliseconds, that's quite a bit of time. So you want to be incredibly strong so that your force capabilities are incredibly high, no matter how tall you are. So like Ben, when he squats down relative to me, he's going to be far more of a disadvantage. And if he can squat deeper, he's going be even at more of a disadvantage, not only because the joint axis is really far away from the line of action, but also because he is going to be having less cross bridging between the mison and actin, which you ideally want, I don't know if this is still valid today, Ben, you maybe know, but you want as much cross bridging between Mison and Actin as possible, so you have the greatest amount of tension. You can change that, and we see that in cross country skiers, that they actually have more or the ideal cross bridging at joint angles that would otherwise not be ideal.
John:And that's from doing it over and over and over again for, you know, they'll be on their skis for forty k or whatever in a session or something like that.
Isaiah:You got it in the title of the video.
John:What's that?
Isaiah:Why do shorter people jump higher?
John:Why do shorter people jump higher?
Ben:Like that.
John:What Ben said, I actually I've not studied extensively the the It was a rotational What was the equation?
Ben:It's literally just like Newton's second law, but in the rotational form. It's toric it's toric equals I times the little like alpha a, like the little squiggly a, the angular angular acceleration.
Isaiah:Last time we talked about physics, we got attacked.
John:So, yeah. We we try not
Isaiah:to The nerds.
John:The nerds. That and we stay away from biochemistry. We we do talk about it sometimes, but I haven't studied, A and P in quite a few years because it has less utility outside of when you're looking at adaptations and what the benefits of those adaptations are. And that's more big picture than looking at what protein is a receptor for what molecule. Like, this doesn't matter.
John:I mean, it it does it has some utility, I guess, when you're looking at your nervous system, but I trust We
Isaiah:always we always take it through the lens. How does this
John:help me? How does this help me jump higher? It doesn't.
Isaiah:It's like the golden filter. Yeah. Try to filter everything like that. Do you have anything more to add?
Ben:Do wanna say the other thing that they don't talk about is how much harder it is to stay healthy when you're tall. Because you have such long like, if you like have a long board and you drop a bowling ball in the middle of the board, like the board's more likely to break. Whereas if it's a shorter board and you drop it in the middle, it's probably gonna be a little more sturdy. So like that's why like the really tall guys in the league can deal with a lot of soft tissue issues or even like bone issues and stuff.
John:Yeah. Like you see Chet had literally, like, his first play. LeBron bumped him and his ankle just snapped in half or something like that. I'm surprised Victor has Wamayama hasn't had anything happen yet. I'm I know it will eventually.
John:It's just a matter of when.
Isaiah:Yeah. I think he's, like, probably a outlier. Like, I'm if you looked at his, like, intramuscular forces. It probably looks insane. He also moves really well for seven
John:So here's a
Ben:four or five.
John:Here's a good here's a good question for you, Ben. Typically, you'll see taller people in things like clean. The second pull, they'll hit higher peak velos. And upright running, it's beneficial if you're quite a bit taller. So if you were to if you were to standardize for height, then you see that the stiffnesses and things like that are relatively similar.
John:But if you're shorter, you obviously have to have a higher stiffness. Or sorry, you will have higher stiffness if you're running relatively the same speeds. So you mentioned how being taller is a disadvantage, but in sprinting, it is an advantage. So how would you explain the discrepancy between those two things?
Ben:So it's an advantage if you have the forces. Like Usain Bolt, like he's swinging a driver versus everybody else is is is swinging a five iron, like when he's striking down, like at at initial contact. But that's because his hip is capable of generating the force needed to accelerate at the same or similar angular velocities. And obviously, he has longer contacts contact length, so he has longer stride lengths, but what made him so special was because he was able to have average, like competitive stride frequencies, like he wasn't a Su Bingqin stride frequency, while still having an insane stride length, whatever it was. And so it's like the caveat is, it's an advantage as long as you have the prerequisite, you know, RFD or force production capacities.
Isaiah:So give I us have two questions as well.
John:Yeah. I'll do. I have one follow-up. So give us an analogy. Give us give us an illustration that is simple to explain what you explained with Newton's second law and being taller.
John:If you can give us another illustration or example.
Ben:Well, can I can say, so to your point with the whole like Usain Bolt and being tall thing, just think about like when you're swinging a golf club? Like the golf club's way like a driver
John:We'll get it in jumping.
Ben:Okay. And jumping?
John:It's a tough one. It's it's a
Ben:tough one. Off it.
John:I was like I was
Ben:Off the off the dome, how to accelerate Well,
Isaiah:it would probably be the opposite though. Right? Because you don't see taller jumpers jump higher.
John:Well, difference is you're talking about his leg striking the ground similar to a golf club striking a ball, but that's not
Ben:because you're able to swing it at like the same angular velocity. So the linear velocity is Yeah. But when you're looking
John:at jumping, you're looking at a vertical velocity.
Ben:So it's like
John:pushing through the ground is giving you that velocity. So it's how does being taller limit your ability to generate vertical velocity. That's It's
Ben:just you just can't accelerate the limbs at a fast enough speed. Like, whatever. I mean, it's it's I don't I don't know what the number would be for what You're saying acceleration? Velocity? You're saying Yeah.
Ben:Yeah. Like, velocity.
John:Wouldn't you have more time to push upward?
Ben:You would have more range of motion, but that only is an advantage for like a certain, like a, there's a certain threshold. Like, they didn't, there's been modeling studies in the vertical jump, where they like lengthened the model's femur by an x amount, and it and it jumped a little bit higher, but if they lengthened it by more, then it'll jump lower, because the acceleration is so much less. So they they can't actually get a change in velocity to get to to hit a higher, takeoff velocity.
John:So there's an ideal length where
Ben:you Right.
John:Not see that discrepancy. And that's why
Ben:I think it's a bell curve when it comes to like jumping, like really high jumpers or you know, five eight, five ten to like six two, maybe six three. Because if they're too short, then you're shortening the range of motion. But if they're too long like me, then you're you have a lot you you have a larger range of motion, but you have way less force and acceleration.
John:So you think that, so when you look at the the taller athlete, and you're looking at them extending through the jump intramuscularly, you're what do you think is happening there versus the shorter person?
Ben:If they're moving if they're accelerating at the same speed, then they're generating a crap ton more because it's Intramuscularly, like
John:Because because they will have a larger moment arm when they're in the bottom of the jump amortizing.
Ben:Yeah, they have to overcome That more massive mechanical discipline. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Isaiah:There's also something to be said about if you're generating higher intramuscular forces, you're also stretching the tendon more. Yeah. Mhmm. Like if you're a taller athlete
John:You need more force.
Isaiah:And you're producing that much more force, you you can like potentially stretch the tendon more.
Ben:And you usually have more compliant tendons. Like, if if you have longer tendons, usually longer tendons are are more compliant.
Isaiah:So we kinda answered one of the questions I was gonna ask is, let's say, testing your vertical as an Olympic sport. So max touch minus standing reach, I was gonna I was gonna ask you guys what the ideal athlete like, what what would the I suck at saying this word. Anthropometry
John:Anthropometric?
Isaiah:Anthropometric? What what would that word Anthropometric? Yeah. What what would of the world record holders. Let's say for fifty years straight, you had was Jumping a or what?
Isaiah:Jumping, like, testing your vertical. I think it's probably Probably five eight, right? Five eight, five nine?
John:I think it could be it, like Ben said. Five It's it's between five eight and six two, probably in the middle of that. Yeah. Like five ten. Five Yeah.
Ben:Because they'll be like Yeah. Because they'll be low mass. They'll be levers that are relatively long, so they have enough range of motion, but also they can can still accelerate it. And then the other thing I was gonna say is, tall guys will probably see a little bit better transfer with the weight room, because, know, they increase their squat 10 pounds, that's more intramuscular force than if a five four guy increases his And squat by 10
Isaiah:then the second thing I was gonna ask is, does it change for one foot jumping?
John:Yeah. I think I think with one foot jumping, tall not to a point, taller is gonna be better. Because when you plant your foot relatively far out in front of your mass, and you can see this with Sutherland and I, you have a very, very long lever, and you're actually vaulting over that lever. So you can imagine, like, pole vault. Right?
John:So if I run-in at eight if two people run at eight meters per second, one person has a leg length, I don't know what's a standard leg. Like,
Ben:I don't even know. I I can't I Probably like,
John:I don't know, 42 inches or That's way too much. It's probably like 38 or something. I know. I think ours is
Isaiah:I think my 50 for me is like here or something.
Ben:I think
John:it's like 35 is like your is that right? 35 from the femoral Probably
Isaiah:little higher. Probably a little higher.
John:So we'll see.
Isaiah:Yeah. I think yeah. 36, think. 36? Okay.
John:Let's say let's say you have someone like, you know, a 35 from their foot to their greater trochanter versus someone that's like 45 or something like that. Right? And they're both running eight meters per second and they both put their leg relatively the same distance out in front of their center of mass. The person that if they have enough momentum to vault over that foot, by them rotating to vertical, they will have a higher linear velocity, total linear velocity going upwards, and the vertical vector of those two velocities would be higher in totality than the shorter person. So the shorter person would have to run faster, probably place the foot further out in front so they have more time, but then that puts them at a greater mechanical disadvantage.
John:It's really hard when you're The further your foot goes out in front of you, the more force you need to generate in your quadricep to be able to break, which is bad because that means to get the same velocity, you've got to generate a ton more intramuscular force. So shorter guys like Stefan Holmes, they'll run really, really fast and throw their foot out relatively far in front of their body, and his intramuscular force is really, really high, and his tendons are really, really stiff, so he's able to vault up over that. He's able to because you have to move the vertical, right? You can't take off without your hips being over your toe. You could, but in high jump, that would be really bad.
John:In dunking, you would go.
Isaiah:Where's Stefan Holm?
John:You rotate.
Isaiah:Are Stefan Holm and Briz kinda like the same?
John:Similar. Yeah. They're very very similar. Very similar. Like Briz and Stefan Holm's.
John:Briz is the basketball version of Stefan Holm's. That's probably the best way I
Isaiah:would Yeah.
John:I would view it.
Ben:Zay, have you seen that Stefan Holmes video of like them measuring his achilles stiffness? Dude, that's crazy.
John:It's like, what is it, like two tons to get it to stretch?
Ben:Yeah, it was like 1.8 tons to get it to stretch one centimeter, and it was like four times stiffer than the average male.
John:Yeah.
Ben:That's crazy.
John:It's pretty amazing. Pretty cool stuff. Ben, do you have anything to add to that, as well? Off one foot Yeah.
Ben:Do you I I actually had a question. Do you think it's So like, where's the bell curve in one foot? Because it Do do you think a six, say a six seven guy is gonna have
John:I think that's where it starts to fall off. Like, Fabian at six nine is gonna have a harder time. Yeah. Like, he has to be, and he is, incredibly, incredibly strong. And then you also are I mean, in in high jump, you're it's different.
John:If you're just looking at vertical leap, maybe he would have potential to jump higher. But if you're looking at high jump, you have there's a premium on rotation. You can't just jump high and clear bars. Have to rotate over the bar. So if you put your foot really far out in front of you, and your knee bends a bunch, you're going, you might get a really high impulse, but then your peak braking forces are gonna be lower, and you're probably not gonna have very much rotation.
John:The summation of where that force vector goes through through that entire takeoff is not going to be as much behind the center of mass or inward, or I guess outward of the center of mass when viewed from the front to get the rotation. So it ends up being potentially a negative consequence. And then a lot of the time, if you're a speed jumper and you're really, really tall, you'll just throw your foot out so far in front of you, and then your foot just implodes. Like you can't maybe they have the stiffness and maybe they can vault over their foot, but your ankle is in such a yeah. Really, really long.
John:And then your knee has to be really, really strong to handle that. So it can be a cluster of of bad bad things happening.
Isaiah:I feel like just from jumpers I've seen, the bell curve is probably like three inches higher. Like, if two foot jumping was like five eight to like six two, I feel like you would see like five eleven to six five Yeah. Would be like for one footers.
John:Yeah. I think I mean, the the highest one foot jumpers that we've seen, like, mean, Sutherland's definitely up there. Right? Yeah. Ilya Ivanjuk is definitely up there.
John:Like, he's How
Ben:tall is he? How tall is he?
John:He's only five ten. Five eleven.
Isaiah:Nick Ross?
John:Nick Ross was Oh, yeah. Pretty high up there in his prime. The problem is a lot of high jumpers won't do vert vertex. Bris. Bris.
John:Bris is one of the highest jumpers I've ever seen off one.
Isaiah:Our athlete.
John:Tobin. Tobin. Tobin's also up there.
Ben:I know Tobin.
Isaiah:He's what, 62?
Ben:Yeah. 62.
John:62. Yeah. Who is there anyone else off one that's tested, like, something really really crazy? Oh. That we can think of off the top of our head?
John:Tony is insane. Tony's insane. Yeah. So I mean it's I would say it's probably relatively similar. If you're only looking at vertical leap.
John:I think high jump is different.
Isaiah:Only, like, guys have tested, like, regularly.
John:They don't oh, Dalen Dalen test out. Oh, Dalen.
Isaiah:There we go.
John:What did he test? Forty six?
Isaiah:Forty six, I think.
John:Yeah. Yeah. So he's up there, and that's like a legit test.
Isaiah:I can't What do think Dalen would run-in the 40?
John:Pretty fast. Fast. He'd run fast. Yeah. I don't know if he'd be faster than Donovan, but he'd be fast.
John:Yeah. Like, probably low four fives, I would imagine. Yeah. He's pretty he's very fast. He's very I don't tube.
John:One foot. Donovan's one foot is up there. Yeah. Yeah. I think Donovan, who do you think do you have any one foot jumpers?
John:Oh, Cohen Carr has gotta be
Ben:Oh, there we go. And he's like six.
John:Cohen Carr is gonna be third. Lebron is prime. There's gotta be oh, he's a speed jumper. Not Jordan. No.
John:The speed James White. He's probably Oh. White White. He's probably He almost touched. He almost touched.
Ben:He's like six What did almost touch?
Isaiah:No. He's 6 Chuck's at 68.
Ben:Oh, really? James White's 68?
John:I'd say 67.
Ben:Yeah. I thought
John:he was
Ben:like 656.
Isaiah:Six seven. Jeez.
John:I'm trying to think of the highest one foot jumper. I mean, Santana jumps super high off one. I think he could put a crazy metric up there. Like watching him dunk in person on 10 feet downstairs Yeah. When he wasn't like fatigued.
John:And I've seen some pretty crazy jumps from him. Austin. So it's probably similar. If you're only looking at vertical jump, like
Isaiah:Yeah.
John:Most of those guys aren't taller than six foot. I mean, Brizz is six foot with short legs. Mhmm. So like and it there's different strategies, like a power jumper is I think it's it's gonna be different. I think when you're when you're a speed jumper, they typically have shorter legs.
John:Mhmm. And then the problem is you can't look at high like, if you look at high jump where your center of mass is already higher, you're gonna be at an advantage. But like like So to was like six four, I think?
Ben:Yeah,
John:he's Something like that. Then, you look at Moo Taz, Moo Taz is six three, six two. Tambourine is also like six three, 62, like, that seems to be the ideal height for high jump. You know, you called, I wanna say it was six five, like, the height is higher, but their center of mass is higher already in Right. Take
Isaiah:And I bet if you looked at
John:the But vertical velocity wise, Hollis Conway had one of the highest vertical velocities ever. Like, his was higher than So does, I think. Like his was like four point eight
Ben:or something like ridiculous.
John:Like that's almost like a five
Ben:ton, isn't it?
John:Was six foot, maybe? Yeah. Six foot? Like he was quite a bit shorter than everyone else, and he had to have crazy vertical velocities because of it. So like, and and Stefan is another one, Franklin Jacobs, like those How tall is
Ben:Will Clay?
John:What's that?
Ben:Will Clay, the long jumper. Is is it Willy Clay?
Isaiah:Yeah. Will Clay. Will Clay? Clay.
John:Clay. He's Will Clay is six two. Oh, okay. Six six two.
Isaiah:The other thing is, I bet if you looked at all the one footers that jumped the highest, is they probably have really high hips. Yeah. They do. Like, probably have the same, like, length.
John:The difference is well, some of them. Because not all like like Nick and Stefan don't. Really? Yeah. Franklin Jacobs did, but like Stefan's legs are not insanely long.
John:And Nick's are he has a really long torso. So like some speed jumpers can have crazy, crazy thick, short tendons. Right? But because they can
Isaiah:they just run fast.
John:They run super fast. Mechanically, you know, they probably do have higher patellas, and their Achilles are incredibly stiff too. They load the ever living hell out of the musculotonus unit, and get way more energy to the point where like, it actually benefits them to be a little bit shorter. And they can reposition faster. So they can run faster, reposition faster, and they have less braking forces at takeoff, and then that lets them load the really, really stiff tendons and strong muscles really, really fast to get a ton of lift.
John:Whereas like, you know, you look at someone like Jermaine Mason, he's a power jumper, jumped like two thirty five or two thirty seven or something like that, or Fabian jumped two thirty three or two thirty five. Like, those guys, they're they're gonna plant their leg further in front. They can't handle as much speed. They probably weigh a lot more. They don't get as their tendons are probably not quite as stiff, they don't get as fast.
John:They don't can't get on and off the ground as fast and get as much energy out of the takeoff. Like, it's there's so many two foot jumping, it's like be low and fast and like super strong and everyone uses, you know, a plant foot and a block foot. But in one foot jumping, you have a lot of discrepancy between how much you lower and the strategy you use to jump is very different. Like, it it's just you don't see a lot of guys pogo jump 50 inches. Right?
John:You're not like Justin Darlington. You're he's I mean, he probably jumped 45 or something like that. But The
Isaiah:thing well, the thing about Justin Darlington He's low and fast. I saw yeah. Like, if you look at how low he is, he's actually lower than Strategy.
John:I'm saying the strategy is like a short really short penultimate.
Isaiah:Yeah. Yeah. But he's still like, we've talked about this before. Even the guys that short the penultimate, when they jump high, they're they're low and fast. Yeah.
Isaiah:Where people mess up is like they'll pogo it, and they're like in a eight squat trying to jump trying to jump high.
John:I think I think just one foot jumpers, there's more you can get the same outcome more different ways. Like, can jump the same height. You can get the same in high jump specifically, you can clear the same bar and do it like 20 infinite different infinitely different ways. Right? And that's because there's somersault.
John:You could be taller, you could be shorter, and if you're taller, you're closer to the bar already. Like your height, your center of mass is already higher. At takeoff, it's gonna be even higher because your foot's bigger, your leg is gonna be higher. So at takeoff, you're gonna have more mass higher even before you leave the ground, and that's gonna get you closer to the top of the bar, but then you lose rotation. So you've gotta do other things to compensate for that, where if you're shorter, you can rotate faster.
John:You can have stiffer a stiffer takeoff, which lets you rotate faster, and lets you run faster, and lets you get more vertical lift. So it's like in dunking, I think being taller and leaner and having high hips is like Sutherland is probably the best. Right? Yeah. I don't think anyone jumps higher than him off one.
John:Right? What do you see? You see someone with really high hips, really long legs, and a relatively stiff takeoff. Right? Whereas if you look at someone like Austin, he's gotta take a way longer stride.
John:He's gotta be way, way stronger. Right? He can't do the same mechanics that Sutherland does. Same thing with me. We've gotta take a longer stride.
John:We've gotta be way stronger in that position. Where Sutherland could just maintain stiffness and his hip will vault over his foot and he can jump 40 some inches. That probably falls off. Like his hips are high. So, you know, he's what is he?
John:Six two or something?
Isaiah:Yes. Six two. Six
John:five and half inch. But his hips are way higher than yours. Like Yeah. So he's walking around like someone who's six five.
Isaiah:And his shoulders too. And his shoulders are like here. Height were the same and then his shoulder up here. Yeah. Your hips are like like at my belly.
John:That's what I'm saying. Like, he he's got a short torso and long legs. Yeah. So it's that's what you want in high jump too. You want a short torso and long legs, and that's gonna be more beneficial for you.
John:So I do think
Isaiah:And no mass
John:too. And no mass. Yeah. You can't if you have a lot of mass, you've gotta generate even more force, which is problematic. So it it one foot gets a little a little dicey, think.
John:Ben, do you have anything to add to that? That was beautiful, John. Thanks, man. I thought I think about this a lot. Did you
Isaiah:did you make a a guide for triple jumpers and
John:I made a I made a guide I made a guide for high jump technically, but that's only supposed to be for a select few.
Ben:Oh. Under lock and key.
John:Under lock and key. Oh. Yeah.
Isaiah:How do you get said lock and key?
John:I don't that that depends. I don't know if we're I don't know yet. I don't know if it's close. Coaching resource. It's a coaching resource.
Isaiah:Okay. Okay. Okay. So we'll be able to coach those guys?
John:We can coach those guys. Yes.
Isaiah:Okay. Okay.
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John:can get the access to the wealth of knowledge that our coaches have on this topic because I've coached my coaches on how to do coaching for you. Yeah. That's the best way I can say it. So Alright. Cool.
John:That's the video, guys. I hope you enjoyed it. Click the link in the description or the pinned comment. We'll see you guys tomorrow. Ben's here for two weeks?
John:Two weeks. Two weeks.
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