The Wisdom of Wow Podcast

Most of the conflict in your closest relationships isn't about what you think it's about. It's about a story you never agreed to live by — but absorbed somewhere along the way.

In this episode of The Wisdom of Wow, Harris and Kate sit down after 25 years together and take apart the cultural narratives quietly wrecking modern relationships. The 50/50 myth. The soulmate lie. Happily ever after. The idea that your husband is "babysitting" his own kids.

They talk about what actually built the life they have — and it isn't chemistry, luck, or finding the one. It's a form of intellectual humility, a decision to out-serve each other, and a willingness to see the story running underneath every conflict before assuming the worst about the person in front of you.

Harris tells the story of getting stuck in India on 9/11 as an 18-year-old, and how the conversations he had there with people in arranged marriages rewrote his understanding of love as a choice, not a feeling. Kate names the moment she realized happily ever after wasn't the goal. Peace was.

In this episode:
  • Why the "speak your truth" era made relationships harder, not better
  • What Michelle Obama got right about the 50/50 myth
  • Love is a choice — and the feeling follows the choosing
  • Why "my husband is babysitting the kids tonight" is a story worth killing
  • Happily ever after vs. peace ever after
  • Joy vs. happiness — why Harris is chasing joy
  • How to take someone at face value when you're in conflict
Key Takeaway: When conflict shows up, pause and ask what story is running underneath it — yours, theirs, or one you both absorbed from somewhere else. Interpret the day through what you know to be true, not what you're afraid might be.

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Creators and Guests

Host
Harris III
Bestselling Author, Top-Rated Speaker, Award-Winning Illusionist and Founder + CEO of Istoria and the Istoria Foundation.
Host
Kate Harris
Bestselling Author, Sought After Coach & Consultant, and Co-Founder + Chief Creative Officer of Istoria

What is The Wisdom of Wow Podcast?

The Wisdom of Wow Podcast is an invitation to slow down, look deeper, and rediscover the power of wonder in leadership and life. Hosted by Harris and Kate, each episode explores the ideas, stories, and conversations that help us move beyond information and certainty—and into wisdom, imagination, and meaningful impact.

In a world obsessed with answers and efficiency, The Wisdom of Wow creates space for curiosity, creativity, and the kinds of questions that actually change us. This is a podcast for leaders, creators, and humans who believe that the future belongs not to those who know the most—but to those who can see the most clearly.