Try Orgo (3 days free + 20% off your first 3 months): https://www.orgo.ai/?r=COREY
In this episode, I sit down with Nick Vasilescu, co-founder of Orgo, to break down JEV, the new multiple-choice decision model that's blowing up on X. Nick explains exactly what JEV is, why it's absurdly fast and cheap compared to LLMs like Claude or GPT, and the specific high-volume, high-structure workflows (insurance claims, competitive intelligence, e-commerce arbitrage) where it can save you real money. By the end, you'll know exactly when JEV is worth building with and when it's just a distraction.
Timestamps:
(
00:00) Intro: Everyone's Talking About JEV
(
01:06) Defining JEV: A Multiple-Choice Decision Model
(
02:57) Nick's Origin Story: Building Computer Use Agents
(
05:18) When You Should (And Shouldn't) Use JEV
(
06:08) Comparing JEV To Claude Cowork Style Agents
(
08:07) The Insurance Claims High-Volume Use Case
(
08:26) Why Nick Charges $5K/Month For Managed Agents
(
10:44) Demo: JEV Playing Minecraft
(
12:28) Demo: The "Look Now" Model-Release Detector
(
13:34) The Orgo Promo And What It Unlocks
(
15:35) Use Case: Competitive Intelligence At Scale
(
16:48) Use Case: E-Commerce Arbitrage And Price Scraping
(
17:58) Orgo's Preview Playground For JEV
(
18:39) Demo: JEV Playing Chess Fast (But Dumb)
(
19:46) Will OpenAI Or Anthropic Build Their Own JEV?
(
21:40) The 80/20 Summary On JEV
(
22:17) Dewey (Nick's Hermes Agent) Demos More Use Cases
(
23:55) Ask Your Existing Agent To Explain New Tools
(
24:24) Where To Find Nick And Try Orgo
FIND ME ON SOCIAL:
FIND NICK ON SOCIAL
X/Twitter: @nickvasilez
YouTube: @nickvasilez
What is Build With AI?
Most AI podcasts talk about what's possible. Build With AI shows you how it's done, live. Each episode, host Corey Ganim brings on entrepreneurs and operators who share their screen and build real AI automations, workflows, and tool setups right in front of you. No boring slides. Nothing that hasn't been battle-tested. You'll watch actual implementations get built from scratch so you can follow along and do the same in your business. If you're a non-technical entrepreneur who wants to put AI to work without becoming a developer, hit play and build along with us.