1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,000 [panting] 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,080 I couldn't breathe. 3 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,960 Isn't this the excitement you were talking about, Tanya? 4 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,040 [screaming] 5 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,120 [screaming] 6 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:13,520 Right. 7 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,920 We do understand each other, Tanya. 8 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:22,000 See, this is just how we live, Tanya. 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,080 [groaning] 10 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:28,360 Tanya! 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:30,760 doesn't have to hurt. 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Don't you get it, Tonya? 13 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,520 I need you. 14 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:37,920 I need you to live. 15 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:38,860 Good. 16 00:00:38,860 --> 00:00:40,360 Please don't kill me. 17 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:51,920 Tonya, I don't think you're entering into the spirit of this. 18 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,360 Why don't you just think of yourself as lunch? 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,960 Hello, folks. 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,360 Welcome to CinemaBeef podcast. 21 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,560 I am one of your hosts, Gary Hill, with me as usual, is Iris. 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,760 Hello, hello. 23 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,700 Hey, she's healthy. 24 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:08,460 In a while. 25 00:01:08,460 --> 00:01:10,400 It's been a long time, man. 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,360 Yeah. 27 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,440 This is why some pocket I take the summer off 28 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,200 because you get too busy with bullshit and, you know, wanting to do things. 29 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,740 And twenty-two shots of Moons and Horrors, a great example 30 00:01:21,740 --> 00:01:23,000 that they take the whole summer off. 31 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:28,040 And I'm not that patient for all that, but it is what it is. 32 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,320 How are you Iris? 33 00:01:31,320 --> 00:01:33,920 So much better. 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:41,360 Yeah, so this having COVID sucks, but it's only five days. 35 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:48,040 So if the flu and the cold could do the same thing, that would be great. 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,800 Because yeah, it's like five days and done. 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,120 So I'm lucky with my immune system. 38 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,560 I'm sick for like two days and then I'm back to normal again for some reason. 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,360 I don't know what it is. 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,960 Oh, you're lucky. 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,160 Oh boy. 42 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,080 And also with us as usual is Suzanne. 43 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,280 Hello. 44 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,520 And greetings. 45 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,520 God, she sounds so dumb. 46 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,680 The dumps right now is what was wrong with this woman. 47 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Come on now. 48 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,680 Oh, I'm fine. 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,600 I'm just basically just decompressing. 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,960 I mean, I had to watch one of these films three times, you know, as I'm just going 51 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:31,960 throw it out there. Oh yeah, spoilers now. My review is going to be lackluster for one 52 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:39,280 of these films. You're just going to throw it out there. I don't know, we'll talk about 53 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,640 it. We'll start this show the same way we always talk about every other show. I'll 54 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:51,640 ask Iris what she's been watching lately. Okay, so believe it or not, because I was 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,240 I'm just gonna have to be, you know, 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,400 sequestered and quarantined away from everyone. 57 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,920 I started watching Dark Shadows. 58 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:05,840 But the OG Dark Shadows, where Barnabas shows up. 59 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:09,620 Right, I am on season four now. 60 00:03:09,620 --> 00:03:13,160 Two of the major characters that were on there 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,060 are now gone 'cause they're dead. 62 00:03:16,060 --> 00:03:17,980 So yeah, it's great. 63 00:03:17,980 --> 00:03:22,160 I forgot how much I loved this as a kid. 64 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,640 and uh... yeah that's basically what i've been watching and then 65 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:29,800 you know the usual shit tv arranged and 66 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,640 started watching uh... 67 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:35,720 the australian version of big brother which is a lot more interesting in the 68 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,700 american one 69 00:03:37,700 --> 00:03:41,600 but besides that uh... uh... it's pretty much it 70 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,520 cool way i can always expect my risk to watch uh... some of this reality junk 71 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,800 my sister watches and 72 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,040 oh yeah 73 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,640 It'll come up in the same conversations. 74 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,960 (laughs) 75 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,620 Oh man, Suzanne. 76 00:03:54,620 --> 00:03:57,240 - Well, it's summer, you know, 77 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:02,240 I really, most of my time revolves around baseball 78 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,280 and sitting outside, but catching up on the new season 79 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,080 of what we do in the shadows, it's still, 80 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,080 the baby Cullen thing got a little, 81 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,160 I don't know, off-putting, 82 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,800 but this season seems to be going in the right direction 83 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,000 for me. 84 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,920 And of course, I always have to do a little crime time. 85 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,120 So I watched the Ken and Barbie murders, 86 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,400 which I've seen so many documentaries on the Homoca 87 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,440 and Paul Bernardo. 88 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,840 But this one actually added a few things 89 00:04:35,840 --> 00:04:39,320 that I found that I did not know. 90 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,320 So murder aficionados out there, 91 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:44,640 check out Ken and Barbie murders. 92 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,680 And I think I watched that on Max. 93 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,640 And I know Iris is big into crime time. 94 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,040 - Yes, I am. 95 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,080 - Have you seen it yet? 96 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,580 - No, I have not watched that particular one. 97 00:04:57,580 --> 00:04:58,800 So I'm gonna have to check that out. 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,100 Is that on Netflix or? 99 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:03,940 - It's on Max. 100 00:05:03,940 --> 00:05:05,280 - Okay, yeah, I got that. 101 00:05:05,280 --> 00:05:06,160 Cool. 102 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,120 - Yeah, so do me a favor, check it out. 103 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,080 Is there, like I said, a few things I didn't even realize 104 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,880 that there was another sister. 105 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,660 and kind of details. 106 00:05:16,660 --> 00:05:19,800 Yeah, I know, never mentioned anything I've watched 107 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,560 and anything I've read. 108 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,880 So that was kind of, I guess, 109 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,000 just she was off in the shadows 110 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,960 and really didn't have any relevance in the story. 111 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,160 So I didn't even know she was there. 112 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,800 And it follows a little bit about her 113 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,800 after she got released, which it is really good. 114 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,240 It is really good. 115 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,920 So check that out. 116 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,500 and let's see what else. 117 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:51,320 Yeah, pretty much as Cubs coming up in the central, 118 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,720 except they dropped two games to the match 119 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,520 and that'll be my sports update. 120 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,320 - And now to Gary for the weather. 121 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:03,640 - And Danesby is a man's name apparently 122 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:04,760 on the show Cubs. 123 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,680 And so I found that, I thought it was a nickname. 124 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,180 - Danesby's lost it. 125 00:06:09,180 --> 00:06:11,000 (coughs) 126 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:18,120 of some country ass southern shit right there, okay? It has to be a family name. Danesby 127 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:26,520 is this man's name, okay? That's the name. That's the name his mama gave him, Danesby. 128 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:32,920 I can't get over it, but I digress. I have also been watching the news season of what 129 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:41,760 we do in the shadows. I have been enjoying it thoroughly as usual. Guillermo is half 130 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:49,840 a vampire on there. He has adorable vestigial wings for no reason. Have you seen these things? 131 00:06:49,840 --> 00:06:56,640 They're adorable, these vestigial wings. Yeah, it's hilarious as usual. It's good stuff all 132 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:04,400 the time. Even better, I'd say, is they started the final season of Reservation Dogs on FX 133 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:12,080 as well, which I can't praise enough. I'm going to catch up on that. The latest episode 134 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:20,880 is really, really powerful stuff because Bear, who's on his journey home, meets a dear lady, 135 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:26,040 if you know that is on the show, and she's like a mythological, like native creature 136 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:32,280 that kills bad men and you find out the story of the dear lady, how she became who she was 137 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:39,920 and it involves Native American boarding schools which are awful places that were run by Quakers 138 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:46,080 who basically took Native kids from her families and tried to reeducate them and take their 139 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:51,080 heritage away from them and all kinds of abuse and nasty shit. 140 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,480 So it's really tough to watch, but it's an important part of history that's really 141 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,360 ugly and just coming to light recently. 142 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,040 Yeah, it's sad. 143 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,960 That's the political portion of the show right there. 144 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:08,600 You know, you shouldn't do that, yo. 145 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:09,600 What else? 146 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:16,320 I watched, you'll hear about this on the latest Look What You Do episode of Ricky Morgan, 147 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:23,320 a show in soccer, very fun movie, Victor hasn't seen this. 148 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:27,320 Victor hasn't seen this he has to. It's excellent. 149 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:32,320 What else? There's not a whole lot. I can remember because we had been a while 150 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:40,320 recorded a show, so recent stuff is harder to recall because 151 00:08:40,320 --> 00:09:01,320 I- I- I- I- Oh, this was good. The Shark- Shark Exploitation is a documentary on- on- on Shutter about shark exploitation movies, and this is pretty good because it gets to- the- the- the movies, and it also gets to the science of the movies, and it was a- what- what's real life and what's fake, and that's a- it's a very interesting watch. 152 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:06,320 as far as not just for "hey look, you like these movies, you like these rip-offs?" 153 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:11,820 Here, here's, also here's some of the science of, you know, why manors, 154 00:09:11,820 --> 00:09:16,120 discussing people being in Peter Benchley regretted, you know, 155 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,320 Jaws getting so big because so many people were in the ocean killing these sharks who literally, 156 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:28,620 I think, five humans die, or it's a really small number of humans die from shark attacks in a year, 157 00:09:28,620 --> 00:09:31,020 and usually it's by accident. 158 00:09:31,020 --> 00:09:33,820 It's not, they're intentionally trying to attack somebody. 159 00:09:33,820 --> 00:09:37,540 So, yeah, that's an important part of the documentary. 160 00:09:37,540 --> 00:09:39,940 And, oh, I was at Suzanne's house 161 00:09:39,940 --> 00:09:42,100 and I watched part of "Demons Will Terror" 162 00:09:42,100 --> 00:09:44,300 and I fell asleep, not because of the movie 163 00:09:44,300 --> 00:09:45,540 'cause I was very, very tired. 164 00:09:45,540 --> 00:09:47,540 So I'll be going back to that movie. 165 00:09:47,540 --> 00:09:48,900 She's just giving it a watch. 166 00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:51,780 - Oh yes, I've gotta go back to that movie too. 167 00:09:51,780 --> 00:09:54,900 Yeah, 'cause I heard two people snoring in. 168 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:55,740 It wasn't me. 169 00:09:55,740 --> 00:09:58,380 So I'm like, yeah, I'll just wait and catch it. 170 00:09:58,380 --> 00:10:03,200 Everybody's gonna be away. It wasn't boring. I was just very tired. I promise, you know, I 171 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,720 Was I was 172 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,700 Enjoying what I saw just put it that way 173 00:10:09,700 --> 00:10:11,420 and 174 00:10:11,420 --> 00:10:18,760 Means who's am with the horror convention and we got to meet our friend Cameron my my microhost from last call of torches 175 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:24,920 We've heard on this show too and and his wife Patty had had some sausage and got fat together and 176 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:29,580 Got the hang out. That was pretty cool, you know, it's it's a yeah, it was 177 00:10:29,580 --> 00:10:32,400 very very good times 178 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:38,360 Yeah, no real beef on this one, I don't have anything to complain about except for you know 179 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,680 Native appropriation which I already did that and 180 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:46,560 Get powerful shit. You should all watch reservation dogs. It's wonderful. Um, 181 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:49,800 We'll get to the meat and beat and potatoes this episode 182 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,960 Been a long time coming to this 183 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,640 But here it is. We're all looking forward to this. 184 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,940 An episode entitled "Where So Horny?" 185 00:11:00,940 --> 00:11:04,000 Which includes the howling and sleepwalkers. 186 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:10,600 About horny where people sometimes husband and wife, sometimes husband and lover, sometimes mother and son. 187 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:16,280 And we'll talk all about our purple glows as we progress on this episode. 188 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,280 [coughing] 189 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,920 and Clovis of course who's just phenomenal as a cat and a character 190 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,640 um okay it's feline cop 191 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,360 feline cop man 192 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,560 get the bad guy Clovis get him get him get him 193 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:36,320 you know uh we'll start in chronological order 194 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,400 with the howling uh stone cold classic the most 195 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,480 from 1981 read the trailer 196 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,480 What do you see? 197 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,480 [chattering] 198 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,480 The howling. 199 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,480 Some night in the city. 200 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,480 In this human jungle. 201 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,480 It begins. 202 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,480 [chattering] 203 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,480 Just try. He's right there. 204 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,480 What do you see? 205 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,480 What do you see, Karen? 206 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:24,480 The water in these woods, in this primal, sensuous, secret place, lies an experience too terrifying for words. 207 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:38,480 And now all anyone can do is watch and wait. 208 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Tonight I'm going to show you something. 209 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,480 Make you believe. 210 00:12:44,480 --> 00:13:02,480 The Howling. 211 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,480 The Howling from 1981. 212 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:19,560 Your cheap applause synopsis after a bizarre and near deadly encounter with a serial killer. They forgot irresponsible. 213 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:23,400 A television news woman is sent to a remote mountain resort 214 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Whose residents may be may not be what they seem. This is 215 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,880 Directed by the great Joe Dante 216 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:35,000 Writers include Gary Brandt and Brandon Brandner 217 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:40,280 John Sayles of course he did some great horror stuff in the 80s. I think some of 70s too 218 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:47,280 and Terrence Winklis. The stars, the great and lovely D Wallace and if you don't know 219 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:53,280 D Wallace, that's a high recommend for me as the official Karen, the original Karen, 220 00:13:53,280 --> 00:14:00,280 Karen White, Patrick McNeigh as Dr. George Wagner, Dennis Dugan as Chris, Christopher 221 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:08,280 Christopher Stone as Bill, Karen's man candy and somebody else's man candy too. 222 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:18,440 Belinda Belansky as Terry Fisher, Kevin McCarthy as Fred Francis, Karen's boss, John Carrington 223 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,280 shows up, Slim Pickens, his teeth really hurt people. 224 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:28,280 Elizabeth Brooks as Marcia Quist, Robert Ricardo as Eddie Quist. 225 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,960 quest uh... noble william as charlie barton 226 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:32,680 uh... 227 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,600 who else does it dot mccloughard as is t_c_ quest 228 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,560 my favorite character the whole film 229 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,440 and we get a bona fide 230 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:45,000 lalter paisley moment a couple of them with the great dick miller in this movie 231 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,920 and i love when that happens 232 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,800 i know i feel about this movie i'm sure that the ladies here have read this book 233 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,480 multiple times the original the original book 234 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:55,560 uh... yes 235 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,820 I'm gonna kick it to Suzanne first. 236 00:14:58,820 --> 00:15:00,860 Suzanne, tell us about the Howling, baby. 237 00:15:00,860 --> 00:15:04,900 - I have to admit, it's probably 238 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:07,080 my favorite Werewolf movie. 239 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:12,900 It's just got, I just love every moment of it. 240 00:15:12,900 --> 00:15:19,340 I love the very beginning where she's in her purple dress, 241 00:15:19,340 --> 00:15:22,600 you know, wandering the sleazy side of LA, 242 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,600 to go watch some movies and talk to the serial killer. 243 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,040 We like to leave the little smiley faces. 244 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:35,180 And I have to admit that scene is just incredibly, 245 00:15:35,180 --> 00:15:38,600 I mean, I saw this when I was probably way too young, 246 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,560 but it's powerful. 247 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,920 She, all you see are these shadows 248 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:49,700 and the news footage of the bodies, 249 00:15:49,700 --> 00:15:54,420 It just kind of puts you right there. 250 00:15:54,420 --> 00:15:57,300 And then she comes back with a constant nightmares 251 00:15:57,300 --> 00:16:01,380 and of course the good doctor, like, you know, I got a place. 252 00:16:01,380 --> 00:16:06,380 Got a place, you can come, relax, get your mojo back, 253 00:16:06,380 --> 00:16:07,940 bring your husband. 254 00:16:07,940 --> 00:16:10,440 And little do they know, 255 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,320 they're walking into a colony of werewolves. 256 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,820 And you know, it's like the, 257 00:16:19,020 --> 00:16:24,060 Just want to take a moment just to talk about the eddyquist transformation. 258 00:16:24,060 --> 00:16:31,220 The air bladder effects, it is just spectacular to watch. 259 00:16:31,220 --> 00:16:34,700 I know a lot of people now would be like, well, with CGI, you could do that, 260 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:39,460 but there's just something about the original physical effects 261 00:16:39,460 --> 00:16:43,540 that just completely it took me in with this. 262 00:16:43,540 --> 00:16:48,100 And of course, you know, you've got your overly amorous 263 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:58,580 What is her name? Oh God. The... Oh, Marcia is, you know, pretty much all over her husband. 264 00:16:58,580 --> 00:17:07,140 It's just, it's just a... It's got its light moments of humor, but it's a straight up horror movie. 265 00:17:07,140 --> 00:17:14,420 It's got blood. It's got guts. It's got everything. And there's a few people who are really actually 266 00:17:14,420 --> 00:17:25,980 sad to see die, which rarely happens for me. Um, yeah, the bare bones of it, it's just fun. 267 00:17:25,980 --> 00:17:34,540 It's a fun werewolf movie that transformations are great. I love how she, the more she tries 268 00:17:34,540 --> 00:17:41,540 to, you know, adapt into this little, you know, wellness community, the more she's, 269 00:17:41,540 --> 00:17:55,820 you know, just noticing how strange the whole thing is and sharing her information with her 270 00:17:55,820 --> 00:18:05,100 friend and his girlfriend. And Dick Miller is great as the occult bookstore owner. I mean, 271 00:18:05,100 --> 00:18:10,940 he's only in for a brief period of time. But he always just lends a lot of presence to whatever 272 00:18:10,940 --> 00:18:17,500 he's doing. And I love the whole thing. We have boxes over bowls. Well, I got to look up market. 273 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:18,340 bill me. 274 00:18:18,340 --> 00:18:24,620 And of course, every channel on TV has some kind of wearable 275 00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:25,860 preference. 276 00:18:25,860 --> 00:18:30,820 It's fun. It amps up. I will the only thing that bugs me about 277 00:18:30,820 --> 00:18:34,780 this movie, and it's very, very simple. And it's just the last 278 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:38,660 thing that you see in here before the credits roll, because 279 00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:42,700 it's pretty much, yeah, it's right in your face, you know 280 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:45,500 what's coming. You totally know what's coming. 281 00:18:46,620 --> 00:18:55,500 But look at 7. It's for 1981, you know, ounce of blood and hair for ounce of blood and hair. 282 00:18:55,500 --> 00:19:00,260 It still is. It's classic. It stands up well. 283 00:19:00,260 --> 00:19:08,100 I just I just can't. I watched this movie several times a year. 284 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:10,740 It's just got such a great vibe to it. 285 00:19:10,740 --> 00:19:14,500 It's I enjoy the story. 286 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:19,780 It's a lot different, not a lot, but it's somewhat different from the book. 287 00:19:19,780 --> 00:19:24,140 The bare bones are there, but I think they took the source material 288 00:19:24,140 --> 00:19:25,780 and did a great job with it. 289 00:19:25,780 --> 00:19:29,680 And all in all, it's just it's. 290 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,020 It's a great little vampire vampire werewolf movie. 291 00:19:33,020 --> 00:19:36,380 OK, that was a mental pickup. 292 00:19:36,380 --> 00:19:40,320 So yeah, this is just this is a fantastic film. 293 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:43,320 Cool, Iris. 294 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:48,600 So on this one, the howling, I got to see this in the movie theater and it was amazing. 295 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:56,520 Gosh, if I can say I watched it 10 times in the theater, I would not be exaggerating 296 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:06,200 because I was so in love with this movie. And I grew up watching the universal monsters and 297 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:15,240 virus and stuff like that. And this movie really carried that feel of the 80s. It was gritty, 298 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:26,440 atmospheric, the music. I mean, come on, you have Pino de Nagio composed a score to this. 299 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:36,920 And it is just so dark and oppressive at some points and so majestic in others. It just 300 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:42,520 really really carries the movie and really gives this movie the correct atmosphere it needs. 301 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:52,280 Because if you really think about this, this is a movie of a commune of werewolves that are trying to, 302 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:59,480 I don't know if they're trying to recruit Dee Wallace, you know her character, 303 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,840 but they were certainly trying to recruit Christopher Stone or Bill. 304 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:14,040 But still, you take that element of atmosphere out of this movie and it's just really just 305 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:15,520 another Werewolf movie. 306 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:25,560 But being up coast in California and having the fog come in and out in the forest and 307 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:30,520 the lighting and everything, it's just such a beautifully shot movie. 308 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:38,520 And really to think about this movie, I was reading that they had gone over budget so 309 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:52,000 bad that the scene where Terry gets killed was filmed in Joe Dante's office because they 310 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,400 didn't have money to go to a set somewhere. 311 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:02,840 But here he does, what he does is he turns out this beautiful movie that I'm being, it 312 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:07,760 wrapped in some bucks for the time. 313 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:13,480 They had 1.5 million budget and it made almost 18 million dollars. 314 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,480 Back in the 80s, that's a lot of money. 315 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:23,960 But there's really not much to add from what you were saying, Suzanne, the special effects, 316 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:24,960 everything. 317 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:30,060 This movie is still relevant even though you can say well you could do that with CG. 318 00:22:30,060 --> 00:22:33,100 Okay, yeah, how easily is it done with CG? 319 00:22:33,100 --> 00:22:40,040 You had to have somebody sit in a chair for hours on end to get all this stuff done 320 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:46,520 so it could get filmed for what two to three minutes of movie time, 321 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:53,040 but it had such an impact on the story and on the viewer that to me, 322 00:22:53,580 --> 00:22:56,380 Yeah, sure you could do that in CG. Okay. Well, yeah big deal 323 00:22:56,380 --> 00:23:01,740 but this was you know physical effects and and physical effects for me when I see that in a movie now 324 00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:07,460 Mad respect for it because you know, it's it's just really not done as much anymore 325 00:23:07,460 --> 00:23:10,140 but 326 00:23:10,140 --> 00:23:14,040 This too is probably one of my favorite werewolf movies in itself 327 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,220 I enjoy the story 328 00:23:17,220 --> 00:23:19,420 atmosphere like I was saying 329 00:23:19,420 --> 00:23:20,860 Joe Dante 330 00:23:20,860 --> 00:23:27,420 just did an incredible job with this and you know, we've got people like John Carradine and 331 00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:33,060 His role to me is so impactful because he is that 332 00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:36,820 I'm sure that he was that alpha male that 333 00:23:36,820 --> 00:23:42,020 Now doesn't even have the teeth to be able to rip 334 00:23:42,020 --> 00:23:48,940 Meat off of any bone, you know, and it's sad to see that he's just sitting there and and he's going nuts 335 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:58,860 And he's going crazy because he knows what he was and now he is just an old man discarded 336 00:23:58,860 --> 00:24:00,480 off to the side. 337 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:06,900 It's just, that in itself to me is also impactful the psychology of this movie. 338 00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:13,940 So yeah, I mean, I don't know how much more to praise this movie than what Suzanne's already 339 00:24:13,940 --> 00:24:21,060 done and myself is just if by some chance you have not seen this movie what the fuck is wrong 340 00:24:21,060 --> 00:24:27,460 with you in the first place and to go find it it's online i'm sure you can find it online for free 341 00:24:27,460 --> 00:24:34,420 somewhere and watch it and if you have the chance if you are a reader pick up the three books i have 342 00:24:34,420 --> 00:24:43,140 all three and it is a yearly read for me so that's my two cents on this whole thing okay this is 343 00:24:43,140 --> 00:24:46,260 It's working as dicey for me. 344 00:24:46,260 --> 00:24:49,020 It's known that I don't love this film. 345 00:24:49,020 --> 00:24:50,020 It's one of those things. 346 00:24:50,020 --> 00:24:52,300 And it's not a thing. 347 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:54,620 Everything you guys said was correct. 348 00:24:54,620 --> 00:25:00,100 But there's a little nuances in the film and stuff I love. 349 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:05,700 Like you said with John Carradine and being the elder werewolf, talking about how much 350 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:09,180 his teeth hurt and he can't use them anymore and yada yada yada. 351 00:25:09,180 --> 00:25:10,820 These things I love. 352 00:25:10,820 --> 00:25:15,820 I love Patrick McNeese's character. 353 00:25:15,820 --> 00:25:19,160 He's just really selling this colony thing to her. 354 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,660 She's believing it all the way. 355 00:25:21,660 --> 00:25:25,360 Robert Ricardo, as any quiz, is genuinely creepy. 356 00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,380 Even when you don't see him, he's genuinely creepy. 357 00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:31,660 And do his thing. 358 00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:32,660 He's great. 359 00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:38,500 And Marjorie Quist is the perfect foil for everybody. 360 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,500 I love the brother too. 361 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:45,500 I love the animalistic nature even when he's in human form. 362 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:50,500 Like being like a hunting dog, just looking for the kills when they're hunting and stuff. 363 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:53,500 That's pretty cool. 364 00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:59,500 The problem I have with the hauling is it's almost like two lifetime for me. 365 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:01,500 Kind of like Black Christmas. 366 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:08,500 It's because Karen White, Dee Wallace's character, nobody is just naive or stupid or whatever it is 367 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:13,980 is because her husband starts going through the change after he gets it in with Marsha 368 00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:14,980 Quist. 369 00:26:14,980 --> 00:26:20,260 This is my theory on the whole thing, that they're in with a good doctor, you know, spoilers, 370 00:26:20,260 --> 00:26:23,580 the doctor isn't on this, the whole werewolf thing. 371 00:26:23,580 --> 00:26:31,460 And I think Marsha, you know, brought our good reporter and her man, Candy, to the camp 372 00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:34,780 just so she can get some revenge sex to say, "You know what, you killed my brother? 373 00:26:34,780 --> 00:26:39,780 I'm gonna make your man into one of ours and that's the whole flow of it. 374 00:26:39,780 --> 00:26:42,780 Because she takes him as her own. 375 00:26:42,780 --> 00:26:47,780 And the moment where that makes a churn is where he's a vegetarian, he starts eating meat. 376 00:26:47,780 --> 00:26:50,780 He's overly violent to the point where he slapped her. 377 00:26:50,780 --> 00:26:54,780 Now a normal person would get in the fucking car and leave. 378 00:26:54,780 --> 00:27:00,780 Because he's never been like this before, but she sticks around and that's fine. 379 00:27:00,780 --> 00:27:08,780 But you know, it's a little quiz about the film that I don't like as far as a film goes. 380 00:27:08,780 --> 00:27:10,780 This is why I have more fun with Howling 2. 381 00:27:10,780 --> 00:27:14,780 It's not a better movie I know, but I have more fun with The Howling 2. 382 00:27:14,780 --> 00:27:23,780 But with the ending of this movie, you know, they're all destroyed, the werewolves, except for one, because Marcia's still alive. 383 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:26,780 Marcia should have been in The Howling 2. 384 00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:32,820 Although how much I love some simple danning and anything that should have been your next logical, you know 385 00:27:32,820 --> 00:27:39,640 Step is her being the character now into because she lives and I would have loved it 386 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,860 um 387 00:27:41,860 --> 00:27:44,340 The very end you know she can expose everybody 388 00:27:44,340 --> 00:27:51,860 I guess the man chi chi werewolf the little cutie werewolf she turns into I guess that was a decision made by her to 389 00:27:51,860 --> 00:27:54,980 Say if I'm gonna be a werewolf, I'm gonna be adorable and you know what? 390 00:27:55,420 --> 00:28:00,400 She's like the most non-threatening ribos ever. She's adorable. You want to pet her or something, you know? 391 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:05,880 It's just it's just it's for me. It's not for me 392 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,660 It's like it's like the parts of American world from London that work 393 00:28:09,660 --> 00:28:13,420 They work so well for me, but the parts that don't work for me 394 00:28:13,420 --> 00:28:17,640 Make me not watch it a lot. It's the same thing with this one. It's just 395 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,920 The illogical stuff in the film. It's kind of like 396 00:28:22,580 --> 00:28:28,420 People can see the Last House on the left a classic and you know what it is for that kind of film 397 00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:31,220 But there's stuff in the film that takes you out of it 398 00:28:31,220 --> 00:28:37,660 Like the bumbling cops and shit like that and you know, you know, bless David S. You know, but the stupid 399 00:28:37,660 --> 00:28:40,860 Soundtrack done by him. It takes you out of it 400 00:28:40,860 --> 00:28:44,580 And there's some of this film that takes me out of it and it's not just 401 00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:51,260 It doesn't make it and any less of a good film. I enjoy what I see. I love the Robbo Teen special effects 402 00:28:52,060 --> 00:28:57,520 Although I don't like the way Joe Dante kind of shit on I watched the Beast Within recently 403 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,800 He kind of dumbed on those effects of their bladder effects 404 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:06,240 Oh those are like basically saying his or these were leaps and bounds above that. Did it look better? 405 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,140 Yes, did you look all that much better? Not really and to be to be honest 406 00:29:11,140 --> 00:29:14,420 I like the story better in a beast within I did in this movie the whole 407 00:29:14,420 --> 00:29:18,760 small-town secret, you know the with the cicadas and the 408 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:24,980 I just watched it, there's a lot going on in Beast Within. 409 00:29:24,980 --> 00:29:27,620 It's a pretty good one. 410 00:29:27,620 --> 00:29:29,780 One day we'll cover it on here. 411 00:29:29,780 --> 00:29:34,060 But I do enjoy this, just not like I should. 412 00:29:34,060 --> 00:29:35,980 Let's put it that way. 413 00:29:35,980 --> 00:29:38,780 That's my two cents on the howling, I'm sorry. 414 00:29:38,780 --> 00:29:41,620 But anything else, I'll get you to Iris. 415 00:29:41,620 --> 00:29:46,340 She wants to say about the movie, and I will wish you could win the ten. 416 00:29:46,340 --> 00:29:48,440 I'm going to give this a 10. 417 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,480 It's great. 418 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,780 I love the story and very valid points. 419 00:29:53,780 --> 00:29:55,980 Very, very valid points to your making Gary. 420 00:29:55,980 --> 00:30:00,260 Yeah, you know, Dee Wallace's character 421 00:30:00,260 --> 00:30:05,020 could have been completely left out. 422 00:30:05,020 --> 00:30:07,540 She did not need to be in the movie. 423 00:30:07,540 --> 00:30:15,980 You take her character away and you make Terry's boyfriend. 424 00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:44,980 shareboards his name, the other Bill. Yeah, let me know. Terry's boyfriend. Yeah. Yeah. Because Chris, you know, he has more of an impact on the plot than than most people in this movie. Him and him and the lady friend. Right. So if if Chris would have been the one investigating the serial killing and they found out about this colony of where I was somehow one way or another, then I think. 425 00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:48,420 I think it wouldn't have been such a, 426 00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:51,060 it wouldn't have that cutesy element. 427 00:30:51,060 --> 00:30:53,260 It would have more grit, you know, 428 00:30:53,260 --> 00:30:55,700 if it would have taken Karen White completely 429 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:56,720 out of the picture. 430 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:02,140 But that being said, I still really, really love this film 431 00:31:02,140 --> 00:31:04,180 and I'm gonna give it a 10. 432 00:31:04,180 --> 00:31:05,180 - Cool, Suzanne. 433 00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:07,660 - Yeah, I've always loved this movie. 434 00:31:07,660 --> 00:31:11,300 It's one of the funniest things I can say about this movie. 435 00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:14,900 I was watching it with my mom for the first time. 436 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:17,460 I was very young. 437 00:31:17,460 --> 00:31:21,660 And I was curled up on the couch watching. 438 00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:24,060 And my mother, I think we heard my dad pull in, 439 00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:26,660 she's like, "You roll over, pretend you're asleep." 440 00:31:26,660 --> 00:31:30,780 And that just makes me laugh every time I watch it. 441 00:31:30,780 --> 00:31:35,300 But yeah, honestly, the thing about the werewolves, 442 00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:36,140 and I know, it's like, 443 00:31:36,140 --> 00:31:39,180 I know she wanted to be a cutesy werewolf. 444 00:31:39,180 --> 00:31:40,320 But I mean, it's, 445 00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:47,060 They talked about a little bit in the movie about nature. 446 00:31:47,060 --> 00:31:53,060 Everyone's true nature came out in their werewolf form. 447 00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:57,940 So she was just not a, she was a pretty, 448 00:31:57,940 --> 00:32:00,340 I hate to say wishy washy. 449 00:32:00,340 --> 00:32:04,220 So she was a wishy washy werewolf. 450 00:32:04,220 --> 00:32:05,940 Just a thought. 451 00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:08,260 - And it was more of a goody two shoes. 452 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:11,700 She was just too pure of-- 453 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:13,660 - Yeah, she-- 454 00:32:13,660 --> 00:32:15,260 - To be a beast. 455 00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:18,140 - Yeah, that's what I was thinking. 456 00:32:18,140 --> 00:32:20,220 And it's one of those things that crosses my mind 457 00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:22,300 when I watch the movie, but, 458 00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:23,980 'cause whenever Gary and I talk about it, 459 00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:26,720 it's like I always get the whole monchi-chi speech. 460 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,180 - 'Cause that's what she looks like, okay? 461 00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:32,740 - Okay, yeah, she looks like a monchi-chi. 462 00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:35,100 But I just, I do, I have this, 463 00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:38,940 my husband got me the actual movie poster 464 00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:43,420 that hung in a theater that I have hanging up on my wall. 465 00:32:43,420 --> 00:32:46,060 One of these days I'll get some autographs on it. 466 00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:51,220 - Right under the, oh what's the name? 467 00:32:51,220 --> 00:32:52,060 - Slaughter Lamb. 468 00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:54,180 - The Slaughter Lamb tavern sign, yes. 469 00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:55,940 - Yep. 470 00:32:55,940 --> 00:33:00,740 Well, you know, I do have to keep my subgenres together. 471 00:33:00,740 --> 00:33:04,700 But like I said, I've always loved this movie. 472 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:07,100 Like I said, it just brings up that one memory 473 00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:09,980 from childhood as well. 474 00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:12,540 And yeah, I've honestly, I have not read 475 00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:14,500 the second and third book in years, 476 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:15,740 but every couple of years, 477 00:33:15,740 --> 00:33:20,220 'cause I can blow through the first book in a couple of hours. 478 00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:22,540 It's a fast read. 479 00:33:22,540 --> 00:33:24,020 - It really is. 480 00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:26,620 - Yeah, I need to go read the trilogy again, 481 00:33:26,620 --> 00:33:30,660 just for fun, 'cause I'm pretty much finishing a good book, 482 00:33:30,660 --> 00:33:32,540 which means I won't find another good book 483 00:33:32,540 --> 00:33:34,340 for at least six months. 484 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:38,460 So I have to go give those a reread. 485 00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:41,660 But yeah, honestly, I have so much love for this movie. 486 00:33:41,660 --> 00:33:43,580 It's a straight up time for me. 487 00:33:43,580 --> 00:33:45,940 I love it, love it, love it, love it. 488 00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:50,580 - Oh, it's an aid for me. 489 00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:53,340 It's classic for all the right reasons. 490 00:33:53,340 --> 00:33:57,020 And you know, I'm being really nitpicky here. 491 00:33:57,020 --> 00:33:59,980 But more interesting ending, okay? 492 00:33:59,980 --> 00:34:02,620 Marcia and Bill escape the reality. 493 00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:03,620 And then it becomes the plot 494 00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:10,980 gone girl in suburbia but they're both werewolves okay? Heck yes. Just Marcia burbating people 495 00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:14,900 and having sex with me just you didn't blame me on Bill I would love that movie you know. 496 00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:20,740 We'll see and again so again Dee Wallace's part where she comes to where she turns into the little 497 00:34:20,740 --> 00:34:27,780 Monchichi that could have been left out completely and just cut scene after you know you see the 498 00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:30,440 barn fire cut scene to 499 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,020 uh... marches sitting at the bar 500 00:34:34,020 --> 00:34:37,300 and i would have been perfect i would have been a perfect ending 501 00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:40,740 it's it's it's good and it is great and except for um... 502 00:34:40,740 --> 00:34:44,220 yet it's usually it's usually she should have been a hollering to that 503 00:34:44,220 --> 00:34:45,820 should have been the main 504 00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:49,220 the the the the the the the werewolf bitch as they say in the in the 505 00:34:49,220 --> 00:34:51,660 international title 506 00:34:51,660 --> 00:34:54,860 if you want to find the hollering it's it's very easy 507 00:34:54,860 --> 00:35:01,620 Blue Ray DVD 4K Blue Ray it's on shutter right now where I watched it so it's 508 00:35:01,620 --> 00:35:05,940 easily accessible to get to and I'm hotling too was on shutter for like a 509 00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:11,860 week and they took it off I was very upset by that it's um Chris Frilly in 510 00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:17,460 the glasses and a little person and red brown in the double denim outfit in that 511 00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:25,820 movie it's just it's just it's just good feelings you know but yeah I like this 512 00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:30,740 okay it's it's an 8 out of 10 though and I let's say if I watch it again the 513 00:35:30,740 --> 00:35:34,500 squirrel might go higher but I don't think so I think that's right where I'm 514 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:42,540 at with it and I think it's fair to call it that and I'm sorry Jamie Sammons but 515 00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:47,540 I'm not sorry, but yeah, I need the sub-plot 516 00:35:47,540 --> 00:35:50,820 to make it real-life-timey, to put Marsha Quist in Bill 517 00:35:50,820 --> 00:35:53,180 and Suburbia and Marsha Quist murdering people 518 00:35:53,180 --> 00:35:54,980 and blaming it on Bill. 519 00:35:54,980 --> 00:35:59,300 Yeah, it would just be, it would be aces, it would be. 520 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:00,860 Oh my gosh. 521 00:36:00,860 --> 00:36:05,340 But next up, we're talking about cats in love 522 00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:10,340 with young girls and cats in love with their mommies 523 00:36:10,340 --> 00:36:15,340 and listening to all these music and all that good stuff. 524 00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:18,460 Sleepwalkers, for example, the Great McGarras, 525 00:36:18,460 --> 00:36:21,180 we'll talk about that coming up next. 526 00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:23,760 (upbeat music) 527 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:32,700 - Charles Brady is new in town. 528 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:34,420 - You've actually talked to him? 529 00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:35,980 - Yeah, he's nice. 530 00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:38,180 Real nice. 531 00:36:38,180 --> 00:36:41,380 The girls all like him. 532 00:36:41,380 --> 00:36:43,980 The teachers all respect him. 533 00:36:43,980 --> 00:36:48,540 Your teachers know how must have been sorry to lose such a creative young man. 534 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:51,060 The parents all trust him. 535 00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:53,340 He's utterly charming. 536 00:36:53,340 --> 00:36:57,580 But nobody really knows him. 537 00:36:57,580 --> 00:36:58,580 Like his mother. 538 00:36:58,580 --> 00:37:01,580 You cannot be in love with this girl, Jules. 539 00:37:01,580 --> 00:37:03,580 Don't know me, Tonya. 540 00:37:03,580 --> 00:37:05,300 But I want to. 541 00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:07,340 Their smile is a secret. 542 00:37:07,340 --> 00:37:08,180 Hi. 543 00:37:08,180 --> 00:37:09,220 Come in, Donnie. 544 00:37:09,220 --> 00:37:11,140 I have something for you. 545 00:37:11,140 --> 00:37:14,100 I don't know who you are, but I know you're not 546 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:16,460 who you say you are. 547 00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:19,100 Behind the secret is a hunger. 548 00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,220 Does it have to be her? 549 00:37:21,220 --> 00:37:25,420 And behind it all is the imagination of Stephen King. 550 00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:30,500 Somebody help me, please. 551 00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:34,980 He killed one of my men. 552 00:37:34,980 --> 00:37:41,980 He was scared of a cat! 553 00:37:41,980 --> 00:38:02,460 Stephen King's sleepwalkers. 554 00:38:02,460 --> 00:38:13,340 Sleepwalkers from 1992 and ho ho 1992 it is directed by Rick McGarris written by Stephen 555 00:38:13,340 --> 00:38:19,240 King and your cheapo plot synopsis is this a mother and son team of strange supernatural 556 00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:25,060 creatures moved to a small town to seek out a young version to feed on. 557 00:38:25,060 --> 00:38:32,220 This stars Brian Krause as Charles Brady who you may know from the TV show Charmed. 558 00:38:32,220 --> 00:38:38,340 Majanamik who plays Tanya in this movie, she was in Twin Peaks and stuff, but I know her 559 00:38:38,340 --> 00:38:42,500 as Betty Cooper's mother from Riverdale. 560 00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:46,220 You know I'm obsessed with that show guys, seriously. 561 00:38:46,220 --> 00:38:51,260 The great Alice Krieg as Mary Brady just kicking all kinds of asses in this movie and just 562 00:38:51,260 --> 00:38:52,620 fucking her son. 563 00:38:52,620 --> 00:38:56,940 Come on now, you know. 564 00:38:56,940 --> 00:38:59,180 So this is fun when this happens. 565 00:38:59,180 --> 00:39:01,180 I think they're a real life couple. 566 00:39:01,180 --> 00:39:07,500 Cindy Pickett in the Lyman Ward, Mr. and Mrs. Bueller show up as her parents, Ron Perlin 567 00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:13,820 shows up as a cop in this movie, the great Glenn Shaddick shows up in this movie as the 568 00:39:13,820 --> 00:39:16,900 unfortunate teacher. 569 00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:21,000 You get a whole mix of directors and stuff in this movie. 570 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:26,060 Clyde Barker shows up, Jodonte shows up, John Landis shows up, Cynthia Garris mixed pipe 571 00:39:26,060 --> 00:39:28,220 shows up in this movie. 572 00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:29,480 and um, Rusty... 573 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,680 Don't forget Toby Hooper. 574 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:31,680 And Toby Hooper. 575 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,320 Yeah, and uh, Rusty Schwimmer who I missed in this movie. 576 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,320 I love that actress. 577 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,000 I think she's great in things. 578 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,920 Um, I know how I feel about this fucking crazy fucking movie. 579 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:46,560 Uh, oh and I forgot the major star of this movie, Clovis. 580 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,560 Because Clovis rocks. 581 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,000 We'll talk about that I'm sure constantly. 582 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,040 Start with Suzanne, Sleepwalkers, tell us all about it girl. 583 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,320 I don't like this movie. 584 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,800 I just don't like it. 585 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:04,920 I went back in the 90s, there is a very severe lack of horror. 586 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:11,240 In the early 90s, you got very few horror films. 587 00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:17,400 And, you know, before digital and, you know, having access to, you know, foreign, 588 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,440 you know, horror movies. 589 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,400 Yeah, your choices were pretty slim. 590 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,760 So I saw I was I could not wait for this movie to come out. 591 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,300 I think I went in on opening weekends on a date. 592 00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,280 Yeah, that ended up badly, but that's another story. 593 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:38,200 But yeah, I just don't like this movie. 594 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,720 There are a handful of things I do like about it. 595 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,280 So I think I'm gonna focus on those 596 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,400 and add in some of the things that I don't like. 597 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,240 Well, we'll start out. 598 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:48,680 I don't like the story. 599 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,560 I think the story is meandering. 600 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,480 It has its film as for it doesn't know what it is. 601 00:40:55,480 --> 00:41:02,480 I, Brian Cross, kind of cute, terrible actor. 602 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:11,480 And Mad Kid, she's, she was a little green in the acting area herself. 603 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,480 But I do like Alice, I love Cindy Pickett and Lyman. 604 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:23,480 And I've completely forgot that Ron Perlman was in that very, very briefly and Glenn Shaddick. 605 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,800 But the things I do like, you know, the song that Santa on Johnny did sleep while, that's 606 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,800 one of my favorite songs. 607 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,240 There's also a great version of the Brian Sutter Orchestra doing it live. 608 00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:38,800 So if you get a chance, check that out. 609 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,360 The only washable scene in this movie for me, well, other than anything where Clovis is 610 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,040 concerned, because Clovis is just a little cutie. 611 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:58,120 seen with Toby Hooper and Claude Parker, Stephen King, and Joe Dante and John Landis, 612 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:04,760 that is the funniest scene in the whole movie. That made the whole thing at least watchable for me. 613 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:12,920 It was, I know they were just dipping their toes into CGI when this came. I think if they had 614 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:20,520 possibly may be stuck with a few more physical effects instead of trying to make it as drastic 615 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:28,760 as they did. That aspect of it might have been better, but it just, it looked cheap. 616 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,680 And once again, I was so excited for this movie. At least I actually know I did pay, 617 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:44,200 but the fuck was wrong with me back then. Anyway, um, yeah, I enjoyed Clovis, Clovis, the, you know, 618 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:50,600 crime stop and ass kick and cat. I was really bummed when Clovis's owner died because that was, 619 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:59,080 that was just sad, very, very sad. But I, I'm all up and one of you, one of you guys will say 620 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,720 something that will make me think of something else I like about this, because I just, I just don't, 621 00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:06,520 I don't find it enjoyable at all. 622 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,000 It's just meanders, it doesn't know what it's doing. 623 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,360 It's, there are too many, 624 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,300 it just seemed to me like there are too many 625 00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:19,300 kind of subplots going on that kind of got garbled. 626 00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:22,600 And we had the beginning where, you know, 627 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,040 they're going 'cause they hadn't seen these people in a while 628 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,200 and all the dead cats, which, you know, 629 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,200 that always just brings my score up. 630 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,340 But, you know, I'm just gonna pass this one on 631 00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:37,820 and maybe in my afterthoughts I'll come up with something else. 632 00:43:37,820 --> 00:43:41,700 But I watched it last night and it is just as forgettable 633 00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:43,620 except for one scene. 634 00:43:43,620 --> 00:43:45,180 - She is so sad about this too. 635 00:43:45,180 --> 00:43:47,100 I can't take it. 636 00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:49,580 (laughing) 637 00:43:49,580 --> 00:43:50,980 Iris, bring the room up girl. 638 00:43:50,980 --> 00:43:51,820 Come on then. 639 00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:54,660 What do you think about Steve Walker? 640 00:43:54,660 --> 00:43:57,220 - I love this movie. 641 00:43:57,220 --> 00:43:58,060 I love it. 642 00:43:58,060 --> 00:43:58,900 I love it. 643 00:43:58,900 --> 00:44:02,060 This whole movie, right? 644 00:44:02,060 --> 00:44:06,700 So the story seems a bit hokey. 645 00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:10,340 And I can see where you say that this, 646 00:44:10,340 --> 00:44:11,780 it just kind of like meanders 647 00:44:11,780 --> 00:44:14,140 and it doesn't know what it really is. 648 00:44:14,140 --> 00:44:19,140 But put on your HP Lovecraft Cthulhu Spectacles on 649 00:44:19,140 --> 00:44:26,680 and think of the short story, Cats of Ulthar, 650 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:31,560 because this is a retelling of that short story. 651 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,040 in the cats of Ultar. 652 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:40,480 So in the cats of Ultar, basically it is a story 653 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,640 of this place called Ultar. 654 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,640 And there's an old cauldron, his wife, they hate cats 655 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,560 and they catch them and they dispatch them. 656 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,440 They hate cats, period. 657 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,440 Then here comes this little orphan boy 658 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,440 And he had a cute little cat, cute little black cat. 659 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,280 And all of a sudden his cute little companion 660 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,880 because his parents had died in the play. 661 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,880 This cute little companion was gone. 662 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,280 And he spends time meditating 663 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:18,280 and he unleashes basically a curse on the town 664 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,740 and the caravan leaves. 665 00:45:20,740 --> 00:45:22,400 And then the tells people noticed 666 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,200 that their cats are nowhere to be seen. 667 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,680 And then everybody goes, well, you know what? 668 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,240 It's probably the dude and his wife, 669 00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:32,720 because they're always killing cats. 670 00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,320 I bet all of our cats are dead or trapped 671 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,980 or something on their property somewhere. 672 00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:42,480 So they go to the property and lo and behold, 673 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,360 when they open the door to the cottage, 674 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,000 all they find is two skeletons that have been picked clean. 675 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,000 And then the mayor of Ulthar goes, okay. 676 00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,360 So understood kitties, nice kitties, 677 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,840 nobody can kill a cat in Ulthar ever again. 678 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,460 Think about the movie that we just watched, 679 00:46:03,460 --> 00:46:06,200 Sleepwalker, basically the same thing. 680 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,980 Man and a guy and his mama show up, 681 00:46:10,980 --> 00:46:13,660 they put traps all around their house 682 00:46:13,660 --> 00:46:17,660 because they hate cats and cats hate them. 683 00:46:17,660 --> 00:46:23,000 She goes down with the girl, she tries to kill dude, 684 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:30,080 dude kills deputy and then deputy sheriff deputy Clovis right 685 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,880 along. You know he's he's the instead of a canine unit they 686 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:41,920 had a feline unit. Clovis hurts the guy. Brian oh what's his 687 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,000 name in the movie I always forget. 688 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,920 >> Hi. 689 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:52,760 >> Yeah okay yes thank you try it. And then mama sees this 690 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,920 She's trying to help her son, you know, craziness ensues. 691 00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,680 And basically, what do the cats do? 692 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,000 The cats take revenge. 693 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,360 So to me, first time I watched this, 694 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,800 I kind of felt a little jipped by Stephen King 695 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,360 because I had not read this story yet 696 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,520 from his short stories. 697 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,080 I had not read it. 698 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:20,720 And I thought, well, this is just a ripoff of "Cats of Uthar." 699 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:24,880 And as I watched the movie more and more and more and I see them through those 700 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,360 spectacles, I fell in love with this movie even more and more and more. 701 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,400 And therefore that's why I just love this movie. 702 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,200 Yeah, this one's got it. 703 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,160 This is a screenplay. 704 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:36,920 I think it wasn't there. 705 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,200 What do you think? 706 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,080 She was sorry. 707 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:38,640 I think it was just. 708 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,800 Oh, yeah, it's probably why I never read it. 709 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,240 Yeah, it doesn't exist. 710 00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:44,600 I don't like it over the century. 711 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,320 Yeah, I know that was good. 712 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,120 That was really good. 713 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:48,880 I have that book. 714 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:58,360 Um, yeah, I've got so sorry. Um, so yeah, so basically that's why I, um, once I put those, 715 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:03,880 you know, just watching them more and more, I just see more and more little nuances in here 716 00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:12,280 and there and everywhere. That scene in the lab spot on, it's lovely. I love it. I crack up every 717 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:18,840 single time. I mean, I don't even have to know the scene is coming. I just start giggling because, 718 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:27,000 you know, it's just good. The gore in this, palpable, it could have been done a little better, 719 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,200 but there was some good gore, and you know, her bursting into flames at the end. 720 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:40,680 I mean, I would have enjoyed more seeing kind of like maybe the cats left kind of, you know, 721 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:45,400 like piranhas coming over and just chewing on everything. I would have enjoyed that a little 722 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:52,920 bit more but then again you know again budget but yeah I really like this movie 723 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:58,640 that's my two cents now most of the things Suzanne said was correct you know 724 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:03,000 for about the stupidity of this movie but I happen to like this video this 725 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,840 movie because in the beginning of the big opening credits you get you try to 726 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,000 get they try to think some of the lore in there or why these people are the way 727 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,600 they are but it's not really explained what's going on with them and that's 728 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:16,600 That's how I like my horror. 729 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,600 To the point where they don't explain shit, they just let it lie. 730 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:25,600 Because if you over explain stuff in a horror film to me, I'm gonna like it a little bit less. 731 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:32,600 That's why I resent the end of Psycho, because you get that very end of Psycho where he's being interrogated by the police, 732 00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,600 and they just lay everything out about why the way he is. 733 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:39,600 I was like, "I need a little mystery in my life, and this is why I resent Psycho a little bit." 734 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,600 I didn't need that ending. 735 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,000 I really didn't do that's why you resent the howling well because the howling 736 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:51,640 You know like it lays it all out for you. That's probably why you don't like the howling is mine 737 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,560 I explain why I like the howler. I thought it was pretty pretty laid out there, you know 738 00:49:55,560 --> 00:50:00,320 This this one don't explain shit 739 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:07,760 I get I get the idea of them being a life force to to survive all these years and I love the opening of this movie 740 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,120 You know where they they find the little girl in the basement and she's she's she's sucked dry 741 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,940 That that tells you right away that you know a victim 742 00:50:15,940 --> 00:50:23,960 Doesn't have to be a teenage girl or a certain type. It's just whatever they can get to live and move on 743 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,440 I like that aspect of this movie as far as 744 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,640 You know the comedy they try to pull off of this movie I 745 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:36,920 Get that you know because Charles makes some really goofy jokes in this movie and you know 746 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,980 Love it or not the the cop kebab gag works for me. It's so it's so stupid 747 00:50:41,980 --> 00:50:47,000 But but it works for me and somebody getting murdered with a ear of corn in this movie works for me 748 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:52,320 It's just it's so ridiculous. It's so ridiculous, but the stuff that's not that's not ridiculous. I 749 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,920 really enjoy like 750 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,800 The way the way 751 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,440 Modgen is introduced to the girl the victim the chosen one 752 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:09,320 She's right right away because he's carving his name into her arm and looking here in the yearbook and stuff like that 753 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:15,200 So what that's the way he shows but you know when she's in the movie theater dance with it with the vacuum cleaner 754 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,400 That's what I fell in love with her. Let's put it that way because it's like she was like 755 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:26,820 She was like Elizabeth shoe in the opening of your invention babysitting. You know right there. It's like yeah, I love that and um 756 00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:30,320 Fun stuff. Yeah 757 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:38,560 You got Lane Charles Brady doing silly things, but at the same time, you got Alice Krieg in this movie as the mother being like 758 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:45,060 the guiding hand saying, "You know, Motherfucker, we gotta eat. You're dragging your feet, asshole. It's time." 759 00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:53,560 And even away when she comes to the house, she's marking her with the flower, like you see in the beginning of the movie. 760 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,000 And she's almost like, like sexually, you know, teasing her in a way. 761 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,760 To say, "Yep, you're gonna be mine, bitch." 762 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:07,640 And I love Alice Creeg's use of sexuality in this movie, and brutality, and the fact 763 00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,180 that she did all of her own stunts in the movie, I think she did a majority of her 764 00:52:10,180 --> 00:52:15,920 own stunts, including throwing poor Mad Chin over her shoulder and getting rid of the police. 765 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:19,280 So, she's fucking badass, if for one thing. 766 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,880 I love that so much about her. 767 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,800 Oh, God, this woman is, she's classic. 768 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,320 She's just a classic beauty. 769 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,520 She's not something like Hollywood Beautiful. 770 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:30,960 She's classic beautiful. 771 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:31,800 - Oh yeah. 772 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,640 - You know? 773 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:36,160 - I love her in "Ghost Story." 774 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,400 I mean, I used to say, hey, Dan, such a-- 775 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,240 (Darren laughs) 776 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:42,480 I would say he's done a better job on "Ghost Story" 777 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,720 because the way that the character is written in the book 778 00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:49,280 is a lot different. 779 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,840 - Yeah, she had more depth in this. 780 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,400 In the movie, it was all about the guys. 781 00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,400 The book, it's about her and what the guys did to her. 782 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,380 - Yes, she is the focal point of the book. 783 00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:05,800 - Yes, oh my God. 784 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,880 (clears throat) 785 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,920 Anyway, sorry, we're talking sleepwalkers. 786 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,000 - That's okay, that's okay. 787 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,880 That's what they're called tangents people. 788 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,960 But she is the main reason to watch this movie, 789 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,560 in my opinion because just some of the action she does 790 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:25,440 if it was anybody else you know just doing this this hammy dialogue 791 00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,600 and doing what she does and it's laid out pretty quick that they're fucking 792 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,600 getting it in because he's he's carrying her upstairs in his arms and 793 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,360 you see the the purple glow of the cat sex happening 794 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:45,040 and i i i don't know man it's so strange 795 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:51,040 And if you read up on this, I listened to the commentary from the Blu-ray. 796 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:56,040 She was telling the boy to get in when he was on top of her. 797 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,040 She told him to go for it, and he fucking did apparently. 798 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:05,040 And you know, it's a passionate scene, people. 799 00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,040 Let's put it that way. 800 00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,040 "Swing!" 801 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,040 (laughs) 802 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,040 Um, Dan Martin as um, 803 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,040 Clovis's master, uh, Officer Simpson, 804 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,040 is wonderful in this movie, just the dynamic with him and Clovis is great 805 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,040 and his dialogue is wonderful. When he dies 806 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,040 it's very very sad, like he said, because you know, cats do what cats do 807 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,040 and the happily man Joy died, unfortunately, she overdoses 808 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:40,160 medicine that kind of reacted with some other medicine, her cat Annie would not leave her 809 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:46,280 side even when the paramedics were there. So that's some cats too. When he died Clovis 810 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:51,280 was standing by him, he wouldn't leave him and I love that about Clovis and just being 811 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,080 a general fuckwad, just staring at Charles Brady and saying "I see you motherfucker, I 812 00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:03,680 see you!" and Glenn Shattuck's being Glenn Shattuck's in this movie and getting murdered 813 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:14,040 hilariously. It's kind of great. It really is. Big scenes in the movie. Again, I love 814 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:22,280 Alice Krieg's siege on the house. It's on Tonya's house just not giving a fuck about 815 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:27,280 the police and just killing anybody that gets in her way of her prayer or of her care for 816 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:33,480 food. She wants this girl, she has been chosen. And she's a getter by the ministry. Throw 817 00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,160 over her shoulder and carried her out of the house. 818 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,160 All that's great. 819 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,760 Alice Krieg is the reason to watch this movie. 820 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,680 Not so much anybody else, but her actions and her doing everything is just spectacular 821 00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:48,680 in this. 822 00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,880 What would have been a turn of a movie otherwise. 823 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,880 Because a lot of inexperiences here, like I said, your two leads haven't done much at 824 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,160 this point. 825 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:05,160 But uh, Alice is holding it down man as Mary Brady, you know, just fucking her son in this movie. 826 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,160 Even when he's dying. 827 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,160 Literally. 828 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,160 Even when he's dying. 829 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:15,160 She's like, "Oh my god, who the fuck now? That's all she was thinking about, you know?" 830 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:26,160 Because he got messed up by Clovis and he was dying and that looked better than, I'm guessing this is pre-Terminator 2, you know, Special Effects, you know? 831 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:31,120 starting them more often stuff. So first for technology that was just starting out 832 00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:34,920 people need to give it a break a little bit. You know the parts where they go 833 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:40,160 from cat face to people face it just it needs to be known that this is done on a 834 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:46,160 much lower budget and did use some of the tech they used but not perfectly 835 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,920 obviously so if you're a bitch about an aspect of this movie I think you need to 836 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,960 like get over yourself just a little bit and realize that this is sleepwalkers not 837 00:56:53,960 --> 00:57:03,200 from here too. I love it. It's just my kind of stupid. And then Alice rocks. Alice 838 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:09,000 Cree rocks this movie. She rocks it and everything though. But this is a 839 00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,640 banner roll for me for her because she's just such a hard-ass and knows what 840 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,960 she wants and she's gonna get what she wants. Even to take stabs with somebody 841 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,480 with the ear of corn, which was wonderfully telegraphed, "Hey, we got 842 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,280 When we were a corn-loved, a left officer, I always loved it. 843 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,880 When we got the cop who was eating something for no reason. 844 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,980 And he's like, "Hey, he got murdered by that last piece of corn." 845 00:57:29,980 --> 00:57:32,780 "He had that last piece of corn, buddy, huh? Didn't ya? Huh?" 846 00:57:32,780 --> 00:57:34,780 "Not you fucking dead because of it." 847 00:57:34,780 --> 00:57:35,980 [Laughter] 848 00:57:35,980 --> 00:57:37,280 "Oh my gosh." 849 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,980 "He was corn fused." 850 00:57:39,980 --> 00:57:41,480 "Oh yeah, just because." 851 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:42,980 [Laughter] 852 00:57:42,980 --> 00:57:44,980 [Mimics corn sounds] 853 00:57:44,980 --> 00:57:46,980 [Laughter] 854 00:57:46,980 --> 00:57:47,980 "I'm gonna kick it back." 855 00:57:47,980 --> 00:57:49,980 "Okay, you were in that with that, totally." 856 00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:52,460 Did we chase Suzanne's minds at all? 857 00:57:52,460 --> 00:57:56,100 I gotta ask her final thoughts and what do you give the rating here girl? 858 00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:57,100 You know. 859 00:57:57,100 --> 00:58:04,580 All right, well, I have not read Cats of Oath 4 probably since early teens, possibly preteen. 860 00:58:04,580 --> 00:58:09,020 So I'm going to revisit it after I read that. 861 00:58:09,020 --> 00:58:15,380 But because I love Alice, she is really good in the movie she's in and she picks really 862 00:58:15,380 --> 00:58:26,060 the obscure films, they updated the honeymoon killers and she was in that and she was obviously 863 00:58:26,060 --> 00:58:35,500 a brave role but she's also another one of those actresses that lends some credibility 864 00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:40,100 to you know like I said in my opinion a wavering screenplay. 865 00:58:40,100 --> 00:58:45,100 But yeah, I mean, honestly, I really will reread the story. 866 00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:48,600 Like I said, I've got to refresh my old lady brain 867 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,340 and give it a revisit. 868 00:58:51,340 --> 00:58:56,700 But at this point, I'm still gonna kind of hold it about. 869 00:58:56,700 --> 00:59:01,300 Believe me, my original rating has gone up a few points 870 00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:04,700 because you both brought up some very valid points about it. 871 00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:05,980 And thank you for doing that, 872 00:59:05,980 --> 00:59:09,300 'cause occasionally I get a little stubborn. 873 00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:15,500 And I get myself set in a certain set of beliefs about a film. 874 00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:18,600 And this is one of those. 875 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,400 So yeah, it's actually gone up. 876 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,300 So yes, it's I'm sitting at about a six with this. 877 00:59:23,300 --> 00:59:29,000 But after I read, you know, reread the story and watch the movie again, 878 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,860 we'll revisit it at another time. 879 00:59:31,860 --> 00:59:35,200 But I will keep you guys updated. 880 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,600 Fair enough, Iris. 881 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,100 Right. 882 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,280 I'm going to give this one 8 out of 10. 883 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,400 But this movie was made for me. 884 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:46,920 It's oaky. 885 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:47,600 It's cute. 886 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,280 It's funny. 887 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:56,160 Subject matter is just like way out there. 888 00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,600 Kind of a bit of a sci-fi horror type of thing. 889 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:05,120 So for me, it's definitely an 8. 890 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:13,600 And like I said, once I started watching this a little more and I saw it through the lens of the 891 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:17,200 Cthulhu mythos, then I was like, oh, fuck yeah, this movie's good. 892 01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,160 So yeah, eight out of ten for me. 893 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,680 And Alex Krieg, I would do her. 894 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,040 Yes, she would get it in. 895 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:25,760 Like I said, I met her. 896 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,400 I was intimidated because, you know, this movie and of course, Star Trek First Contact, 897 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,560 or she wanted to get it in Mr. Mr. again just overly sexualizing Mr. Data in 898 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,480 that movie she she wanted she wanted to bang she wanted to bang the Lieutenant 899 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,480 Commander data you know this way she wanted to be a little bit more flesh 900 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:48,480 so she can get it in and you know it never happened unfortunately but literally 901 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:53,800 yeah exactly she she wanted to turn that in motion enhancement up and you know 902 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:58,920 just just let them let them enjoy that shit cool things exactly what this movie 903 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:03,720 McGarris, imagine, are allergic to cats. 904 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,280 I remember that in the commentary, but didn't reveal it until just before Productions. 905 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:13,240 I imagine her hanging out with Clovis was not a good time, but she has some nice moments 906 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,240 with Clovis. 907 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:19,760 Yeah, it's fun. 908 01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,760 It's just stupid fun. 909 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:28,320 Like I said, I think that as a man, turning into a man, this movie came out in '92, so 910 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:33,320 I was 11 years old, so between this and I think like from Dust Till Dawn it was hard 911 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:42,040 to pick a wife, but besides Alice Cree and Selma Hayek, you know, because Alice Cree, 912 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,200 she knew what she wanted and she was going to get it. 913 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:49,680 And you know what, I met her once and she would still get it, as I'll say about that, 914 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:51,400 as long as it's consensual. 915 01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:56,480 But yeah, that's Sleepwalkers and I think you guys should watch it. 916 01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,240 If I should say so, it's fun. 917 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,580 It's my kind of stupid. 918 01:02:01,580 --> 01:02:04,860 - But you're saying you don't like the meaning. 919 01:02:04,860 --> 01:02:06,840 - Well, I'm not saying you're wrong, Suzanne, 920 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,800 but I'm saying at the same time, you're kind of wrong. 921 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:09,640 Okay? 922 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:10,480 (laughing) 923 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,320 - I'm saying I'm not saying that. 924 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,760 - It's kind of like when you start going off on somebody 925 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,160 or you're gonna go up and say, "Be nice Sue, be nice Sue." 926 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,200 (laughing) 927 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,080 - And that happens more than you would, 928 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:24,560 it actually happens a lot. 929 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,360 - I really don't like this person. 930 01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,360 They're not worth it, Sue. They're not worth it. 931 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,360 You know, I'm gonna tell you. 932 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,360 I think Sleepwalkers is worth it. 933 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,360 That's where I'll leave this. 934 01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,360 And we'll come back and close out the show. 935 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,360 This'll keep you quiet. 936 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,360 Oh, hi there. I didn't see you. 937 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,360 You call me cutting a new show. 938 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,360 I'm Bo Randstel, and I'm one of the many creators 939 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,360 you can find on Legion Podcasts. 940 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,360 I said quiet! 941 01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:01,140 My fellow podcasters and I work hard to bring you the best in horror podcasting, but that comes at a cost 942 01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:06,840 Not that but also yes 943 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,760 No, what I'm getting at is that there are server costs 944 01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,640 Costs for good microphones and software for editing all the things that make our shows 945 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,680 You know fun to listen to and you can help 946 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:24,760 If you're enjoying the shows on Legion podcasts comm or in the Legion network available on iTunes and Stitcher 947 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:30,940 Just about anywhere you can download a podcast really you can help us out and get a little something for your trouble at patreon.com/Legionpodcasts 948 01:03:30,940 --> 01:03:35,480 for just two bucks a month 949 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:40,120 You get a pair of movie commentaries exclusive to patreon and for five dollars 950 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:47,880 You can also join us for a monthly screening of a movie all of that available on patreon.com/Legionpodcasts 951 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:53,140 We appreciate it and thank you for listening now back to the cutting room 952 01:03:53,140 --> 01:04:01,380 That's it for this one. It's great to be back and I hope with this more often thing 953 01:04:01,380 --> 01:04:07,780 and I'm sure it will be. I don't know what we're doing next. It was in discussions with 954 01:04:07,780 --> 01:04:15,140 Ricky Morgan to do... sorry guys, shit. The first two bad news bearers movies because 955 01:04:15,140 --> 01:04:20,340 the other ones are not so good and I don't want to do a whole franchise fest. But that 956 01:04:20,340 --> 01:04:28,500 That might be next, or the Jamaica one might be next, or I put it out there in the group, 957 01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:35,840 ones that I threw out there, including an episode featuring Night Breed, which I notorious 958 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:41,540 he don't love either, but I'll love it for these ladies as much as I can with Little 959 01:04:41,540 --> 01:04:43,820 Monsters, the Fred Savage joint. 960 01:04:43,820 --> 01:04:45,540 That'll be fun. 961 01:04:45,540 --> 01:04:49,180 That'll be a lot of fun. 962 01:04:49,180 --> 01:04:53,620 comes next comes next you can look for that and last call torches putting on 963 01:04:53,620 --> 01:04:58,900 episode real soon and myself and Ricky doing look what you did that's coming 964 01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:03,300 out real soon it just whatever comes out comes out be real sporadic for right 965 01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:07,140 now because my sister's health is getting up they just put our new medicine 966 01:05:07,140 --> 01:05:12,340 actually so for for her nerves themselves so she hasn't felt this good in 967 01:05:12,340 --> 01:05:18,460 in months probably because of this medicine so it's a it's plus it says 968 01:05:18,460 --> 01:05:26,140 everything's looking at people and um yeah iris what you got coming up girl well um tomorrow 969 01:05:26,140 --> 01:05:33,020 i'm going to record with robin colman on we saw the devil and you can find that on we saw the 970 01:05:33,020 --> 01:05:42,060 devil dot com that's a true crime podcast and we are going to be going over the laura the laury 971 01:05:42,060 --> 01:05:50,580 value sentencing, the Shab business business and Carly Russell. 972 01:05:50,580 --> 01:05:53,160 And that's what we're going to be discussing on that one. 973 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:59,360 And then with that sort of weird with Mike, we have added Jim. 974 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:05,360 We are now a threpol and Jim is pretty awesome. 975 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:12,000 He is about, you know, we're all in the same age group and, um, 976 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:17,760 He's witty, he's funny, we have chemistry with him, so it's really nice to have a third 977 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,920 now. 978 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,000 And the last case that we did, or I should say the last episode, was him. 979 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:29,960 He had brought to the table the topic of the Ammons Haunting. 980 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:33,160 So give it a listen, it was really good. 981 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:39,160 And that's on that'ssorta, S-O-R-T-A, weird.com. 982 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:47,520 And my next topic, that should be dropping on the 19th, the 20th. 983 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,560 I'm going to be talking about doomsday profits. 984 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,160 So that's going to be fun. 985 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,160 Cool, cool. 986 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,680 Anything, anything working out with you, Suzanne? 987 01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:56,680 What's happened to Suzanne? 988 01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,680 You're writing anything lately or anything sexy happening? 989 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:02,400 No, it's summertime. 990 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,880 I'm in summertime baseball mode. 991 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,440 I don't, my brain doesn't. 992 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:10,760 I have zero creativity in the summer, 993 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:14,440 but I did start pulling up a couple of my short stories 994 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,240 to start noodling around with again. 995 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,120 Possibly might go back and write a few reviews. 996 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:21,360 I don't know. 997 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:22,680 They said it's summertime. 998 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,200 I get really weird in the summer. 999 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,600 I don't want to, I don't want to do anything 1000 01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:32,180 other than sit outside and enjoy the very small window 1001 01:07:32,180 --> 01:07:34,040 of nice weather that I have. 1002 01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:40,640 but we'll see possibly maybe something fun coming up in the fall, and we'll find out. 1003 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:46,000 I don't say this often enough, we are prop members of the Legion Podcast Network. 1004 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:54,440 Please go to Legion Podcasts, Patreon.com/LegionPodcasts for all the early goodies, the video shows, 1005 01:07:54,440 --> 01:08:00,880 the bonus last call of torches, the pirate radio edits of Cinema Psyops, early releases, 1006 01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:07,040 All this stuff can be yours on patreon.com/legionpodcasts 1007 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:12,840 Give us a rating review on Apple Music or whatever pod catcher that you use. 1008 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,400 Go listen to all these things that Iris is on. 1009 01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,400 That's sort of weird. 1010 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,880 And what's the other one called again, Iris? 1011 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,520 We saw the devil true crime podcast. 1012 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:24,520 You show up on there. 1013 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,240 I've listened to more than one. 1014 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,460 You showed up on there for sure. 1015 01:08:29,460 --> 01:08:31,700 crime stuff. It's a hot thing people. 1016 01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:33,700 Yes it is. 1017 01:08:33,700 --> 01:08:38,340 That is the end of this one. We'll see you guys all again when we see you guys next time. 1018 01:08:38,340 --> 01:08:44,820 Hopefully within the next two weeks. Two or possibly three of us, whoever can make it. 1019 01:08:44,820 --> 01:08:50,980 We're going to put a show out because I miss these women too much. Too much has been happening 1020 01:08:50,980 --> 01:08:57,740 in our daily lives. People get busy, people get bummed. At the end of the day we're all 1021 01:08:57,740 --> 01:09:05,940 a family unit these are my sisters I am the brother you know I care about 1022 01:09:05,940 --> 01:09:14,360 little little brother well you know I'm old beyond my ears but that way I'm not 1023 01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:19,860 like Murphy I'm not like Murphy old but I'm pretty old though you know 1024 01:09:19,860 --> 01:09:26,460 see if I if I didn't fuck with this man he would think something was wrong though 1025 01:09:26,460 --> 01:09:30,000 Okay, come on now, you know, this is true. This is true. This is true 1026 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,140 No, but he's one of my mentors and him and Mike White 1027 01:09:34,140 --> 01:09:42,660 It made me the the shit talking podcast or I am today and a great great co-host like these that 1028 01:09:42,660 --> 01:09:46,620 You know, if you haven't figured out by now if you find 1029 01:09:46,620 --> 01:09:51,500 Females that are smarter than yourself. Okay, it makes you better 1030 01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:58,460 and they have made me better as a human being and as a podcaster and um yeah go 1031 01:09:58,460 --> 01:10:02,780 find yourself some intellectual female friends that are uh that know better than 1032 01:10:02,780 --> 01:10:09,980 you do okay yeah oh man love you all this is been the 1033 01:10:09,980 --> 01:10:15,140 Cinemabeef podcast where if you've got beef we've got the grinder see you next time 1034 01:10:15,140 --> 01:10:19,460 I'm always been I'm always waiting for the shower to happen but it ever happens 1035 01:10:19,460 --> 01:10:21,800 Oh, I know my God, there was a kitty. 1036 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,800 There was a kitty.