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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Here we are, we are back. The Bible

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<v Speaker 1>Guys are back in the house. The Bible Guys plus

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<v Speaker 1>one plus one with a special guest, Wesley Woods. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Forster. I'm half of the normal the regular normal normals.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that's not the correct word. Let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>retake restate that part of the regular Bible Guys. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Arba is out today this week with us, but we

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<v Speaker 1>have Wesley Woods is in the house with us, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's going to be even better, even better. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe we're gonna miss Chris, but we're glad that you're

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<v Speaker 1>here today. So, Wesley, today is Christmas Eve. Yes, for

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are listening in order right as we

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<v Speaker 1>release it, this is Christmas Eve. And not only is

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<v Speaker 1>it Christmas Eve, but some people say extremely important national

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<v Speaker 1>holidays other than Christmas Eve. So it's also National last

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<v Speaker 1>Minute Shopper's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>I can relate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we need to hurry up into the podcast, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and National Eggnog Day? So are you an agnog glover?

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<v Speaker 2>When I was younger? But not really. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>could take it or leave it.

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<v Speaker 1>I despise it. I despise it. This is one of

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<v Speaker 1>those national holidays.

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<v Speaker 2>What do people put cinnamon or what do you put

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<v Speaker 2>on I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I know putrescen. That's what they put on it. They

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<v Speaker 1>put nastiness on it, that's what they put on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then are you a last minute shopper?

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't consider it last minute shopping? It is

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<v Speaker 3>an intentional choice to go shopping on the last day,

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<v Speaker 3>making rapid extractions.

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<v Speaker 2>From various shops. Yes, that's how I classify it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes sense. And all you're doing there is

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<v Speaker 1>managing your time well up until that day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Now here's the thing. If you do go out on

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas Eve, there is no browsing. No, you literally know

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<v Speaker 3>what you're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>You get in. It's kind of like mission impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're forced not to fret and worry. You're forced

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<v Speaker 1>to go. That'll be nice. That's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>You get in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So do you plan way ahead on your Christmas

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<v Speaker 1>purchases or do you just it's so whatever catches your

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I normally have an idea of what I want

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<v Speaker 3>to get and then you just get in and out quick.

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<v Speaker 1>One day, Well, what happens if it's not there anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>One day, Jeff I went to Birch Run Oakland Mall, Summerset,

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<v Speaker 3>all before like three pm.

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<v Speaker 2>On the same day. You just get in and yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>For our listeners from not in this region, he's talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a two and a half hour distance between between

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<v Speaker 1>malls here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wow, just.

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<v Speaker 2>Gun it and doing the speed limit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you get there and then you get out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So does has a couple of questions for us

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate. Let's pull some questions from AI. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>these are questions AI asked, what you're going to get?

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. The first one is why does agnog always

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<v Speaker 1>look like it's a warm hug and a cup, but

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<v Speaker 1>after two SIPs you're questioning your own life choices.

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<v Speaker 2>It's overly sweet, it's thick. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to answer that one for me, because

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<v Speaker 1>it does not look like a warm hug and a

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<v Speaker 1>cup to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I could take it or leave it.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't even remember the last time I had eggnog.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, I would like to ask Ai, when

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<v Speaker 1>was the last time you had aggnog?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to I'm going to do it right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to ask. I'm going to ask when was

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<v Speaker 4>the last time He's literally typing his in you had eggnog?

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<v Speaker 2>And see what response you do.

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<v Speaker 1>And see what it says. Okay. I don't consume food

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<v Speaker 1>or drink, but eggnog does sound like a festive treat.

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<v Speaker 1>When was the last time you enjoyed some? I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell him was none of your business.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. If it responds back, now, I will destroy you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. This may this may cause the universe. This may

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<v Speaker 1>cause the destruction of university. Here picking a fight with Ai. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just say fair enough, let me know if you

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<v Speaker 2>I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 1>That okay, good, So we're gonna so AI has opinions

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<v Speaker 1>about agnog, but it's never had okay, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>a little confused about that for a minute. Okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the second question is is there a special badge

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<v Speaker 1>of honor for last minute shoppers or do we just

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<v Speaker 1>get gold star for stress induced survival? That sounds to

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<v Speaker 1>me like what you're doing, but it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Not stressful for me. It's like completely non stressful. You

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<v Speaker 2>have your list, you go in, you get the item,

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<v Speaker 2>get out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it would be stressful if I didn't have an

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<v Speaker 3>idea and then I'm browsing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, there's no time for that. On close it five,

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<v Speaker 2>do you do.

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<v Speaker 1>All of your Christmas shopping on Christmas Eve?

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<v Speaker 2>Every bit?

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody is yeah, before your mom forever, for your yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for your family, for your wife, for your daughter. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just ba your dad your dad okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when I see him after Christmas, I'll be like, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, you know he picked that out in

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<v Speaker 1>three minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the perfe of that though, the wrapping aspect of

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<v Speaker 3>it that happens like at three am.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's the worst part of it. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. AI had some opinions about Christmas, these

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<v Speaker 1>two big holidays that also go along with Christmas Eve,

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<v Speaker 1>National Last Minute Shopper's Day National Eggnog Day. If if

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<v Speaker 1>you are a last minute shopper and you stop off

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<v Speaker 1>for eggnog, maybe you should let us know right in

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<v Speaker 1>the comments today, And that was that was something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they should mail you eggnog.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, do not do it. I will pour it

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<v Speaker 1>down the dream It's it's one of the most despicable things.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's ever been invented.

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<v Speaker 2>This is almost like what Chris hate moment. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you want to know what made Jeff mad this

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<v Speaker 1>Weekgnog eggnog makes me mad this week? That's right there,

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<v Speaker 1>So talking about things that make people mad. God's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>mad at Solomon.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's going down the wrong path.

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<v Speaker 1>See what I did there? That transition. We're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do cheesy transitions. So if you're a new listener today,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we've been trying to find the cheesiest transition

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<v Speaker 1>we could think of. Yeah, there you go. So Solomon

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<v Speaker 1>he starts to try to blend all these religions together

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<v Speaker 1>rather than staying true only to God. And it's because

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<v Speaker 1>of the influence of his wives, the relationships he was

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<v Speaker 1>in caused him to go down this path. And then

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<v Speaker 1>God says, listen, I'm going to take the kingdom away

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<v Speaker 1>from your family. I'll let you keep one tribe two

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<v Speaker 1>he keeps part of Benjamin and Judah, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>ten are going to leave you. And so some of

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<v Speaker 1>his enemies begin to rise up. We talked about that yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>But then it says here in First King's Chapter eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>verse twenty six says another rebel leader was Jereboam, son

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<v Speaker 1>of Nebat, one of Salomon's own officials. He came from

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<v Speaker 1>the town of Zareda in Ephraim, and his mother was Zarua,

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<v Speaker 1>a widow. This is a story behind his rebellion. Solomon

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<v Speaker 1>was rebuilding the supporting terrocesm repairing the walls of the

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<v Speaker 1>city of his father, David. Jeroboam was a very capable

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<v Speaker 1>young man, and when Solomon saw how industrious he was,

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<v Speaker 1>the tribes of Ephraim and Manassa, the descendants of Joseph.

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<v Speaker 1>One day, as Jereboam was leaving Jerusalem, the prophet of

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<v Speaker 1>Hijah from Shiloh met him along the way. Ahijah was

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<v Speaker 1>wearing a new cloak. The two of them were alone

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<v Speaker 1>Then he said that Jeroboam take ten of these pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>for this is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about to tear the kingdom of the hand of

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<v Speaker 1>from the hand of Solomon, and I will give ten

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<v Speaker 1>of the tribes to you. But I will leave him

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<v Speaker 1>one tribe for the sake of my servant, David, for

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<v Speaker 1>the sake of Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of

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<v Speaker 1>all the tribes of Israel. For Solomon has abandoned me

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<v Speaker 1>and worshiped Astorreth, the goddess of the Sidonians, Chimas, the

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<v Speaker 1>God of Moab, and Molak, the God of the Ammonites.

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<v Speaker 1>He has not followed my ways and done what is

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<v Speaker 1>pleasing in my sight. He has not obeyed my decrees

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<v Speaker 1>and regulations as David his father did. But I will

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<v Speaker 1>not take the entire kingdom of Solomon at this time,

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<v Speaker 1>for the sake of my servant, David, and the one

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<v Speaker 1>whom I chose who obeyed my commands and decrees. I

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<v Speaker 1>own life, but I will take the kingdom away from

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<v Speaker 1>his son and give ten of the tribes to you.

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<v Speaker 1>His son will have one tribe, so the descendants of David,

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<v Speaker 1>my servant, will continue to reign, shining like a lamp

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<v Speaker 1>in Jerusalem, the city I've chosen to be the place

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<v Speaker 1>for my name, and I will place you on the

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<v Speaker 1>throne of Israel, and you will rule over all that

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<v Speaker 1>your heart desires. If you listen to what I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you and follow my ways and do whatever I consider

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<v Speaker 1>to be right, and if you obey my decrees and

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<v Speaker 1>commands as my servant David did, then I will always

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<v Speaker 1>be with you. I will establish an enduring dynasty for

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<v Speaker 1>you as I did for David, and I will give

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<v Speaker 1>Israel to you. Because of Solomon's sin, I will punish

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<v Speaker 1>the descendants of David, though not forever. Salomon tried to

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<v Speaker 1>kill Jereboam, but he fled to King Sheshak of Egypt

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<v Speaker 1>and stayed there until Solomon died. The arrest of the

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<v Speaker 1>events in Solomon's reigned, including all of his deeds and

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<v Speaker 1>his wisdom, are recorded in the Book of the Acts

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<v Speaker 1>of Solomon. Salomon ruled in Jerusalem over all Israel for

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<v Speaker 1>forty years, and when he died, he was buried in

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<v Speaker 1>the city of David, named for his father. Then his

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well there you go. There's some good things in there. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I like verse twenty six. Another rebel leader was Jeredbaum,

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<v Speaker 3>son of Nabat, one of Solomon's own officials. Oftentimes, destruction

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<v Speaker 3>will come from within, Yeah, so he was on the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong path. And it wasn't some like outside invading force.

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<v Speaker 3>It was literally someone in his own camp that caused

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<v Speaker 3>this to kind of unfold. So I think that's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're on the sin path, it's going to come

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And it wasn't that Raabaum did it or did

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<v Speaker 1>and he was very industrious. Right, those are the words.

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<v Speaker 1>He's young, he's capable, he's industrious, And so Solomon put

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<v Speaker 1>tribes of Ephraim and Manassa, which are the descendants of Joseph. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>there were twelve tribes of Israel. If you don't remember this,

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<v Speaker 1>And then Jacob had twelve sons, and the twelve tribes

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel are the families of the twelve sons. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Levites didn't have tribal land. The Leevites were set

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<v Speaker 1>Fraim and Manassa, Joseph's sons each get a tribe, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's how you get the twelve tribes. All

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<v Speaker 1>up taking different parts of the nation of Israel. After

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<v Speaker 1>So they kind of had this coalition of tribes. It

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<v Speaker 1>they each had their own leaders. They are essentially, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what's in the country, choosing to cooperate, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So they were the United States of Israel. Is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how it would have been, right, So the states

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<v Speaker 1>were sovereign, and then they had a king over them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of so these tribes. So what happened was Manassa,

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<v Speaker 1>Judah protects Benjamin takes care of Benjamin. So oftentimes Benjamin

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<v Speaker 1>the other, and Benjamin was so small, So that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>So then here is this young man, he's clearly the

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<v Speaker 1>elite leader of the workers of Ephraim and Manassa. Solomon goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I love this guy. He's great. He's such a good leader.

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<v Speaker 1>And then God sends a prophet to Jereboam and says, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>God also saw in him, Hey, you could be a

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<v Speaker 1>that he made to David to Solomon, if you follow me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make a great nation under you, and your family

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<v Speaker 1>will be rulers forever. If you follow me. The opposite

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<v Speaker 1>is true too. If you disobey me, same thing's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen to you. That is happening to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Solomon today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's one little point in here that I kind

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<v Speaker 3>of find humor in the Bible, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>it's very subtle, and we may have just if you're

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<v Speaker 3>reading the Bible, you may have just glanced over it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it says and Ahdra was wearing a new cloak.

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<v Speaker 3>The two of them were alone in to fill and

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<v Speaker 3>Ahijah took hold of the new cloak he was wearing

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<v Speaker 3>and tore it into twelve pieces. Now, if I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to meet someone and I got a new leather coat,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah yeah, I don't know if I'm going to rip

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<v Speaker 3>that not that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll rip up the old one that I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>using But I just thought that was funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if the Lord told him, hey, uh, did

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<v Speaker 1>you say ahija a hija aja?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I might have said he ahja.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He said, hey, I want you to run down

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<v Speaker 1>to run down to Macy's, find yourself a nice new coat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to have you got an important meeting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And he goes, oh, okay, he runs down to Macy's

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<v Speaker 1>Jereboam and they go says okay, here's all you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and tear it in twelve pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, come on, man, we see that happen often in

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<v Speaker 3>the label. Well, it's almost as if God is testing

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<v Speaker 3>us with things. Yeah, you know what's more important me

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<v Speaker 3>what I told you to do or is it the thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So I just thought that was very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this this single garment that you know kind

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<v Speaker 1>of is supposed to represent all of israel tribes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he said tear it in twelve pieces, and

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<v Speaker 1>then ten of them are going to go with you, Jereboam.

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<v Speaker 1>So that'd be an uncomfortable moment, quite honestly, because there

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<v Speaker 1>is no real indication until afterwards there's no real indication

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<v Speaker 1>that the people hated Solomon. Yeah, right, Israel prospered, Everything

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<v Speaker 1>was great. Solomon worked them hard and they were ready

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit of a break, Yeah, certainly, But

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<v Speaker 1>and they drove. You know, he was a real driven leader,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I think the people were getting fatigue. But

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<v Speaker 1>there wasn't like this animosity. You know, David had almost

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<v Speaker 1>perpetual danger even from within, right, because he was a

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<v Speaker 1>of fighter warriors around him all the time. But Solomon

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<v Speaker 1>was more clever and more diplomatic, and it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>things were far more peaceful. So it must have been

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<v Speaker 1>weird to Jereboam to suddenly find out. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any indication that he had aspirations to take the kingdom

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<v Speaker 1>or to be the king.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody knew that Solomon was chosen and that God had

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<v Speaker 1>promised David that his kingdom would reign forever, right, all

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<v Speaker 1>these things, and so I think that this must have

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe similar to David when David was anointed, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>David just a boy following his sheep, taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>his family, and Samuel comes annoys him, says, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the next king. It must have been weird for

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<v Speaker 1>David because David's like, we already have a king. How's

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<v Speaker 1>this going to work?

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<v Speaker 1>And all of Israel knew the stories. They would rehearse

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<v Speaker 1>all the stories of David. All the children would have

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<v Speaker 1>grown up knowing the stories. And so here's David anointed

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<v Speaker 1>king and running from Saul for you know, decades, decades.

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<v Speaker 1>He's running from Saul. And I wonder if jere Bohm's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, yeah, I'm not even sure I want this job, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's sometimes God just chooses you to do a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, even when you're not looking for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And jere Bohm had to have the courage to say, Okay, God,

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the interesting thing, Jeff, along the lines of

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<v Speaker 3>what you're talking about in verse thirty three, at the end,

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's talking about obedience. I think for a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people it can be difficult to be obedient

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<v Speaker 3>when you can't see the next steps you know oftentimes,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, God doesn't tell us he'll give you the

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<v Speaker 3>initial command. Then we have to trust him and have

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<v Speaker 3>faith that everything is going to work out. But oftentimes

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<v Speaker 3>we as human being things, we want the first step,

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<v Speaker 3>and then a line graph of how all this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to pan out and work out, and how God

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<v Speaker 3>where the money is going to come from, how he's

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<v Speaker 3>going to fix it. And God is saying, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>giving you any of that now. I just want you

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<v Speaker 3>to do step one right. And it's just difficult for

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<v Speaker 1>I've developed the habit of trying to do whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>next thing is God God wants me to do right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't always do it. But as your faith grows,

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<v Speaker 1>and as you grow a maturity, and as you become

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<v Speaker 1>that God causes all things to work together for good

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<v Speaker 1>for those who love Him and are called according to

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<v Speaker 1>His purpose Romas eight twenty eight, all those things. The

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<v Speaker 1>more you become convinced that God's going to follow through,

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<v Speaker 1>the less fearful you are about six steps down the road, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I've tried to do that in my life. So

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<v Speaker 1>a number of years ago, was it twenty twenty, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you heard twenty twenty was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a rough year. It's like a blur, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a rough year.

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<v Speaker 1>So right at the end of twenty twenty, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>COVID's going on, everything's shut down, what to do, And

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, the whole world just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of collapses around us. And then at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, I find out I had cancer. At

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<v Speaker 1>the time, and I've got all these plans. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fairly young, especially at the time, I was still

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of ticked off, like, come on, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of all time, right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I felt like I had more I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>these years of preparation and work, now just you're in

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<v Speaker 1>that sweet spot and leadership in your early fifties, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is where you should be anyways. And so that's I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking, Man, I'm coming into that season. This is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be such a powerful time. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>found out have cancer and think Boh might die, and

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<v Speaker 1>it wound up me. It was a bad kind of cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>As opposed to all those good cancers out there, This

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<v Speaker 1>And I left, and you know, we shed some tears

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<v Speaker 1>and all those things. But then very quickly I just

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<v Speaker 1>had this sense from God that God didn't speak out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>but has very strong sense that God said, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>just do the next thing. Yeah right, That's what you've

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<v Speaker 1>of faith, you've learned to just do the next thing,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that is, and I'll be with you in the

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<v Speaker 1>be with you in the next thing, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>got this peace. And I remember talking to my wife

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not in control.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, control is an illusion anyway, Even

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<v Speaker 1>as much as you try to control your budget and

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<v Speaker 1>children and your relationships in your career, control is an illusion.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I had the strong sense God was saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not in control, and I am, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to go with you on this journey and you just

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<v Speaker 1>take the next step. So I told my wife, I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just going to do the next thing. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know what it is. The next thing. When the doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>do we believe that these are the right doctors? Yes, God,

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<v Speaker 1>please give us guidance through our doctors. I wound up

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<v Speaker 1>having a surgeon friend who specialized in my circumstances that

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<v Speaker 1>had just retired, and so I started sending all my

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<v Speaker 1>charts to him to so I always was getting a

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<v Speaker 1>second opinion. And as long as his opinion and my

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<v Speaker 1>doctor's opinions or my surgeon's opinions whatever aligned, then okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe that this is what So we're going together

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<v Speaker 1>on this journey, and the doctor would say, Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>need to go to this appointment. Okay, I go to

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<v Speaker 1>that appoint I need to make this phone call. I

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<v Speaker 1>make that a phone call, go to this appointment, get

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<v Speaker 1>these scans. I go to that. All right, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to do the surgery and this day, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>do these things. And I just decided I was going

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<v Speaker 1>to do the next step. I couldn't think twenty steps ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't in control of those I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>they were. And I'm telling you, God gave us a

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<v Speaker 1>piece of just doing the next thing. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that when you're not sure about the future, you just

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<v Speaker 1>pull back and go God, I'm trusting you for the

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you show me to do next, I'll do that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so, coming out of the end of it, from

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<v Speaker 1>the day I found out I had cancer to the

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<v Speaker 1>day I had my surgery, miraculously was only twenty four days.

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<v Speaker 3>And this was during the COVID IT season when they

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<v Speaker 3>were canceling all types of suff.

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<v Speaker 1>So my surgeon told me there were one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty nurses out of the hospital at the time, right

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<v Speaker 1>out of the hospital that hospital system, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>to piece together his surgeon team because he couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>all the surgical team that he normally used. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he had to use a different hospital than he usually

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<v Speaker 1>used because of the equipment he needed was only available

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<v Speaker 1>in that hospital at that time. It was phenomenal how

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<v Speaker 1>God worked all those things out and in twenty four days,

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<v Speaker 1>and thank God, because God rescued me, it didn't spread.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cancer free today. All those things and we got

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<v Speaker 1>it just in time. The doctor was really clear on that.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to get just in time. So you just

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<v Speaker 1>follow the next step, whatever the next step is, and

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<v Speaker 1>God get peace. So now I have a friend who's

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with cancer and he came to me, So what

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<v Speaker 1>do I do next? And I said, just do the

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<v Speaker 1>next thing? Yeah, whatever, they just follow God. You've been

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<v Speaker 1>following God up to this point. At this point, you

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<v Speaker 1>have never actually been in control of your life. And

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<v Speaker 1>so just do the next thing. And this is it

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<v Speaker 1>for Jeroboam. Solomon of course does what David did or

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<v Speaker 1>what Saul did, and others they tried to kill Jeroboam.

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<v Speaker 1>So Jeroboam flees. That's the next thing, right, He just

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<v Speaker 1>does the next thing that God shows him to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and God had already made this promise. Now Jeroboam is

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<v Speaker 1>going to fulfill that promise. Nothing is going to disrail

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<v Speaker 1>God's commitment or promise to Jeroboam at this point. And

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<v Speaker 1>so even though Solomon, the wisest man in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>tries to kill Jeroboam, God helps him escape, gets him

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<v Speaker 1>down to Egypt, and he stays there until Solomon dies,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after that it all comes off the rails.

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<v Speaker 3>So and then I'm going to toss this in really quick, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 3>verse thirty eight, because I think this is a culmination

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<v Speaker 3>of everything that.

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<v Speaker 2>You just said.

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<v Speaker 3>When it says, if you listen to what I tell

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<v Speaker 3>you and follow my ways and do whatever I consider

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<v Speaker 3>to be right, and if you obey my decrees and

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<v Speaker 3>commands as my servant David did did, then I will.

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<v Speaker 2>Always be with you. Yes, And I think that's the key.

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<v Speaker 3>When you obey God, he is right there by your

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<v Speaker 3>side every single time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. I don't really have any right to expect me

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<v Speaker 1>to be by my side when I'm doing my own

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<v Speaker 1>thing or when I'm disobeying his word. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't obey God's words, so you can go to heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>But God promises to bless you in this life when

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<v Speaker 1>you're obeying his word, right, and so here he's promising

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<v Speaker 1>to go with you and be with you every step

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<v Speaker 1>of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>What always makes sense, he said to obey him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right. And so hey, that's the lesson

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<v Speaker 1>I think from this segment right here from jare Bohem.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's going to get kind of over the next

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<v Speaker 1>little while. I think we're gonna pivot for a few minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>for a few days and get into some of the struggles.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you see Solomon having emotionally and spiritually

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<v Speaker 1>in the Book of Ecclesiastes, which has written probably about

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<v Speaker 1>this time. So we're gonna pivot to that tomorrow on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible. Guys, so thank you for joining us today

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see you tomorrow