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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey everybody, it is Monday, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>made the right choice by tuning in to the.

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<v Speaker 2>Bickley for Mondays. Yes, no, who said that?

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody?

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<v Speaker 2>That was better. I'm going to retract that comment.

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<v Speaker 1>We grew up reading Garfield, remember, yes, and Garfield's famous saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Was I hate Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate Mondays.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mondays aren't that bad. It's all perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>It is.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is.

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<v Speaker 1>Although I will say this, I've not said this publicly anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but so before I came to join the staff at

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<v Speaker 1>Heritage Church with you, So I've been a pastor for what.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty three years, like three hundred and something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I guess I've been here four years. So

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty nine years, five years, Chris coming up and

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<v Speaker 1>coming Toby, Yeah, yeah, four and a half years. So

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty nine years I had Mondays off. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I came to here and you're like, oh no, no, we

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<v Speaker 1>work Mondays. We work Mondays. We come in but don't

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<v Speaker 1>come in for noon, you know, like a little bit rest.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you know, you're here till you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>four or five uh, and uh, but but now I

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<v Speaker 1>end up coming, you know, like at ten in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning and thirty in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And for forty years or thirty years, you also

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<v Speaker 2>didn't preach four times on a Sunday either.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true. So so you preaching four times on Sunday

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<v Speaker 2>and coming on a Monday, you're here for ten hours

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<v Speaker 2>on a Sunday and then yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, I just uh and so anyway, when I

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<v Speaker 1>got hired, uh, one of you know, Kyle who's also

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bible Guys, Kyle, that Kyle, because there's multiple coles.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle said, oh, so it's it's just what you're used to.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, really you think so? And he goes, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's what you're used to. He goes, you'll get used

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Four and a half years later, guess what

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<v Speaker 1>is not used to it? Buddy, I am not used

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<v Speaker 1>to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, we work here. No, no, no free loaders

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<v Speaker 2>they here at the church.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny. So anyway, hey, today we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>dive into and continue with our series what if Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>had a podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which is such a fun idea, Yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically what we're doing is we're taking really famous

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<v Speaker 2>comments and statements he made, yes, and we're working off

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<v Speaker 2>of those.

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<v Speaker 1>And so today is Matthew chapter five, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>Sermon on the Mount.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's the beginning of the Sermon on the Mount. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>because the whole Sermon a Mount is Matthew five, six

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<v Speaker 2>and seven. I know, yeah, yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that crazy. I was saying that for them, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, Yes, I know, you know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why I said I know. But but before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, we have a segment. And the segment is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's let me go back to that other piece

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<v Speaker 2>that you were talking about, you know, getting working on mondays.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, stuff. Now that we've had this little exchange,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always thought we may not be smarter than other groups,

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<v Speaker 2>and we might not be more talented than other groups,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's not going to be anybody else that out

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<v Speaker 2>works us, right right, and we just proved it a

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<v Speaker 2>minute ago. Here we go. So today is guess the word.

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<v Speaker 2>It's taboo, Yeah, right, the game taboo. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>have to see if Chris can figure out the keyword

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<v Speaker 2>while I give you clues. But I have five words

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<v Speaker 2>that I cannot say, And.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're watching instead of listening, hopefully we're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>able to put the words on the screen, the ones

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<v Speaker 1>that Jeff cannot say, just to follow along.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so you know I'm a musician. Yes, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>played in some very large concert trumpet orchestra, with the orchestra.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, very good. Yes, I was gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>with the Detroit Symphony Orchestra. I did a few concerts, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>with a different band. But anyways, this is a hard one.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us the words you couldn't say.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't say music instruments, conductor, symphony, or performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, that was actually quite tough.

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<v Speaker 2>This one's really hard. So we just celebrated Father's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>We did. And when fathers get a certain age and

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<v Speaker 2>they continue to indulge with steaks and with ice cream,

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<v Speaker 2>they get a certain kind of shape couch potato, a

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<v Speaker 2>certain kind of shape, a shape, and it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a famous Oh dead bodadod there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't say jim belly, comfortable sweatpants or snack.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's great, that's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, Uh, you look through this telescope. There

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<v Speaker 2>you go, Wow, stars, space lens, astronomy, magnify.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I said, telescope.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Remember when we were talking about dad bods. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>when you uh get up in the middle of the night, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>for a you have to go to the bathroom. No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no prostate, No, no, you are getting it's the dad bod.

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<v Speaker 2>It's how you get your dad Bodnah, midnight snack. There

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<v Speaker 2>you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you said you said you have no night. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>You are getting old. Couldn't you say fridge hungry, secret

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<v Speaker 2>leftovers and regret. That's great, that's a lovely regret one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. At the Louver. At the Louver, yep, there's all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of of paintings. There's paintings and things, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>also not paintings, but they're made from like.

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<v Speaker 1>Marble carvings, statues almost statues, carvings, marble master piece.

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<v Speaker 2>What what is it? What is a carving? A carving?

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<v Speaker 1>Is a car What is a carving?

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<v Speaker 2>Carving is uh? You know our listeners are screaming this

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<v Speaker 2>out of out of marble, it's a beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, I boy, I don't know anything.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to be so mad about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Carving is a sculpture. Sculpture I can't believe. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>So you said carving, So then I was able to

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<v Speaker 2>say carve. But it's art, statue, carved stone shape.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I couldn't get sculpture. And for somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who likes arts, I can't believe I couldn't come up

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<v Speaker 2>You go, yeah, so in good job.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for some reason, I always picture sculpture like

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<v Speaker 1>some reason. But but uh, marble is a sculpture. But

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<v Speaker 2>I should have done better. You usually are better, clue guy, everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know why because the word sculpture implies sculpt right,

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<v Speaker 1>and sculpting is in my mind is molding and shaping.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not like it could be shaving, like shaving

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<v Speaker 1>off right, But like, but like when I do sculpt

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<v Speaker 2>I have done it when I'm in my sculpting studio.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but but I've done my share of sculptures in

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<v Speaker 1>our class and and I mold and I make right

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<v Speaker 1>when you said marble, I was not thinking sculptures.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you were thinking statue. Yes, And a statue

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<v Speaker 2>in your mind's not a sculpture. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember when when Michaelangelo the famous quote. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mean you weren't there, but but you remember reading the

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<v Speaker 1>famous quote where it said, how did you how did

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<v Speaker 1>you turn a big block of marble into David? And

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember what he said.

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<v Speaker 2>That David was already inside he just had to get

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, that's right he said. He said David was

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<v Speaker 1>always there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that fun?

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<v Speaker 2>Great speaking of amazing quotes and great perspective. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go into the message.

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<v Speaker 1>The most amazing quote, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That Jesus preaches the longest sermon that he preaches in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible. Yeah, it's Matthew six seven and eight or

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<v Speaker 2>five six and seven. I know, Jeff, Matthew five six

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<v Speaker 2>and seven and in it is where he tells us

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<v Speaker 2>almost all of the famous things people know. Jesus said

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<v Speaker 2>turn the other cheek the golden rule. Treat people the

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<v Speaker 2>way you want to be treated. Everybody, every every every

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<v Speaker 2>person who lives in sin that doesn't want to be correct.

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<v Speaker 2>It always wants to say judge, not that you be

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<v Speaker 2>not judged. Right, Jesus said that Jojo this right. This

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<v Speaker 2>is rare. Tought us to pray our father who art

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<v Speaker 2>in heaven. This is ray toss to go the extra miles.

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<v Speaker 1>The poor attitudes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep? Is there? So this whole five, six, and seven

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<v Speaker 2>you could read those in twenty five minutes. It wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>take you long if you go find book of Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>and read them.

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<v Speaker 1>You're slow reader, maybe not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I would say. And if you're an average reader, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five minutes, thirty minutes. Don't discriminate jeh, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. But we're just going to read the first

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<v Speaker 2>sixteen verses of this message, and it starts off with

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<v Speaker 2>what's called the beatitudes. Says So one day, as he

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<v Speaker 2>saw the crowds gathering, Jesus went up on the mountain

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<v Speaker 2>side and sat down, and his disciples gathered around him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he began to teach them. Is it right?

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<v Speaker 2>God blesses those who are poor and realize their need

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<v Speaker 2>for Him, for the Kingdom of heaven is theirs. God

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<v Speaker 2>blesses those who mourn, for they will be comforted. God

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<v Speaker 2>blesses those who are humble, for they'll inherit the whole earth.

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<v Speaker 2>God blesses those who hunger and thirst it for justice,

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<v Speaker 2>for they will be satisfied. God blesses those who are merciful,

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<v Speaker 2>for they will be shown mercy. God blesses those whose

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<v Speaker 2>hearts are pure, for they will see God. God blesses

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<v Speaker 2>those who work for peace, for they will be called

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<v Speaker 2>the children of God. And God blesses those who are

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<v Speaker 2>persecuted for doing right, for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs.

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<v Speaker 2>God blesses you when people mock you and persecute you,

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<v Speaker 2>and lie about you, and say all sorts of evil

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<v Speaker 2>things against you, because you are my followers, be happy

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Be very glad, for great reward awaits you

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<v Speaker 2>in heaven. And remember the ancient prophets were persecuted in

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<v Speaker 2>the same way. You are the salt of the earth.

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<v Speaker 2>But what good is salt of It's lost its flavor.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you make it salty again? It'll be thrown out

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<v Speaker 2>and trampled underfoot as worthless. You are the light of

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<v Speaker 2>the world, like a city on a hilltop that cannot

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<v Speaker 2>be hidden. No one lights a lamp and then puts

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<v Speaker 2>it under a basket. Instead, a lamp is placed on

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<v Speaker 2>a stand where it gives light to everyone in the house.

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<v Speaker 2>In the same way, let your good deeds shine out

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<v Speaker 1>There it is. And there's a lot packed in that

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<v Speaker 1>And so the Beatitudes, who is it? Weirsby Warren Weersby,

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<v Speaker 1>Poor in spirit, those who mourn, the meek, or in

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<v Speaker 1>and merciful. Well, gee, whiz showing mercy back then was

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<v Speaker 1>these what paradoxal, upside down type comments that that really

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<v Speaker 1>are rooted in love. And so Jesus lifts up these

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<v Speaker 1>attributes you know, blessed, blessed if you're persecuted, what what like?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, persecuted? Is I hate my life? But Jesus like, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would imagine that anybody who's persecuted would probably think, no, yuck,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's no advantage of being persecuted, right, I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jesus is like, no, if you get persecuted for

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what, You're gonna have a reward in heaven

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<v Speaker 1>for you and enduring this for me.

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<v Speaker 2>So the word beatitude means supreme blessing. And they would

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<v Speaker 2>have heard the word as when it says blessed are those,

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<v Speaker 2>or blessed are you? Or God blesses those, they would

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<v Speaker 2>hear it, happy are you? You'll be happy with these things.

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<v Speaker 2>So we did before you came to Heritage number of

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. We just had a big yellow smiley face

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<v Speaker 2>was the name of the series. Oh yeah, and preached

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<v Speaker 2>through the beatitudes, and we covered several things. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>amazing because it's mentioned here in the Life Application Study Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>It says this section of Jesus teaching is often referred

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<v Speaker 2>to as the Beatitudes. These verses can be understood in

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<v Speaker 2>at least four different ways. One, there are code of

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<v Speaker 2>ethics and a standard of conduct for all believers. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so being poor in spirit means being humble. I recognize

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<v Speaker 2>that spiritually I don't have it all together. Doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>how long I've been a follower of Jesus. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm humble in my spirit, then I recognize I

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<v Speaker 2>need more of Jesus. So I'll be happier when I

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<v Speaker 2>finally realize I haven't arrived yet. Yeah, but there's something

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<v Speaker 2>to keep growing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the opposite of pride or entitlement. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So, one, they can be viewed as a code of

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<v Speaker 2>ethics or a standard of living for all of Jesus followers.

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<v Speaker 2>The other way to view it is that they contrast

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<v Speaker 2>And so this idea of constantly being hungry for Christ,

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<v Speaker 2>constantly being aware of the fact that I need Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever those things. Even persecution has an eternal impact.

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<v Speaker 2>God says there's eternal reward for those who are persecuted,

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<v Speaker 2>Whereas if you're always avoiding it, avoiding any kind of persecution,

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<v Speaker 2>that usually means you're also willing to compromise with the

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<v Speaker 2>instead of eternal decisions, or at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Very least afraid to stand up for anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, which means usually you're just going with the flow,

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose that is what is you know, biblical values.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's contrasting between those things that are eternal

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<v Speaker 2>a choice, choose the eternal thing. That's kind of Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>is laying that out there. So those are two of

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<v Speaker 2>the ways. The third way is they contrast the superficial

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<v Speaker 2>faith of the of the Pharisees with the real faith

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<v Speaker 2>that Jesus demands. Right, the Pharisees were, look at us,

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<v Speaker 2>Look how holy we are. Look right, blow the trumpet,

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<v Speaker 2>just so that everybody can know it's time to pray

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<v Speaker 1>Things, which is why I said stand on the corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those whose hearts are pure, those who are merciful,

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<v Speaker 2>that's exactly the opposite. Those who hunger and thirst for

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<v Speaker 2>justice is Jesus way, and Jesus followers need to be

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<v Speaker 2>that way. And it was exactly in contrast to the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the Pharisees were not this way. The Pharisees

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<v Speaker 2>didn't seek justice. The Pharisees picked up stones chance, every

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<v Speaker 2>breaking the law. Right, And so he seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>contrasting those two things because this, this is that first

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<v Speaker 2>big message he preaches after he starts becoming really famous,

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<v Speaker 2>religion of the Pharisees, and so he's kind of dissected.

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<v Speaker 2>So he starts off his message separating my kingdom is

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<v Speaker 2>very different from the kingdom of their building that he's

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. And then the fourth one is they show

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<v Speaker 2>New Testament, right, because then he sets those first ten

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<v Speaker 2>verses and then he unpacks most of those verses, those beatitudes,

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<v Speaker 2>he unpacks through the whole rest of the things. Don't judge,

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<v Speaker 2>rely on God, seek justice, right, go the extra mile.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that. I'm not sure that I've ever had

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<v Speaker 1>that thought before. Structurally, like, you know, because I write sermons,

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<v Speaker 1>so do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you love the structure of a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so it's an intro. It's an intro for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the.

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<v Speaker 2>The first ten The first ten verses are the introduction

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<v Speaker 2>for the rest. So the rest of the three days

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<v Speaker 2>unpacks all these big ideas forgive, forgive those that want

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<v Speaker 2>to hurt you, pray for them, do good to them. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the persecution thing. You go down the line. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>that Jesus talks about after this, he introduces in this

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<v Speaker 1>I would love first of all, the Beatitudes. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>Do they actually have the being? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the weirds b books don't go exactly in

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<v Speaker 2>line with the beatitudes, but he got the idea from

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<v Speaker 2>the beatitudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was just thinking like like, if the beatitudes

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<v Speaker 1>are sorry, I need to move on from this revelation.

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<v Speaker 1>But if these ten verses are an intro of like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about these ten things now for the next

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<v Speaker 1>three chapters. If that's the case, I would love to

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<v Speaker 1>read something that takes the entire sermon on the Mountain

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Like I would love I think

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<v Speaker 2>when we when I preached it through that series, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I tied those together. I think, And if not,

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about it, but I don't remember. It was

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<v Speaker 1>It's not on percent of the content, it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really amazing. So that those are the four

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<v Speaker 2>ways to view it, and quite honestly, I think all

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<v Speaker 2>four of those ways are the appropriate way. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>And then he doesn't lay these out as a la carte.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what one is? I really like. I like

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't like the persecution. I like that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a la carte. It's just this. These are

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<v Speaker 2>happen to go to the place where they believe that

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that like God would have you know, So

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<v Speaker 1>I have these thoughts all the time. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>forgive me. But like when God was creating the earth

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<v Speaker 1>and when God was formed, mean you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the rocks and putting them all into place, I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder and I think the answer is yes. I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if he would have thought, I'm going to make this

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<v Speaker 1>a natural amphitheater.

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<v Speaker 2>So that because Jesus is going to yes, yes, yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I totally believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And so I believe that I believe that God,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in his omniscience just you know, knew that yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Uh, it's it's the same thought that uh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's his name, Ron Hubbard when he when he was

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<v Speaker 1>when he was in Israel and he was unpacking things,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a theory that maybe this is exactly where

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<v Speaker 1>the Israelites crossed the Red Sea. You know, there's like

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<v Speaker 1>a waddie there's a big beach there, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>then uh and so if you do a sonar, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's is you know the Dead Sea or the Red Sea.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh is wide in a lot of places, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there it's thin in a lot of places, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>but there's actually if you do a sonar, it actually

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<v Speaker 1>comes up and there's a natural land bridge. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>land bridge from one side of the other under the

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<v Speaker 1>surface of the surface of the sea. Now we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's where they crossed, but there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of evidence that suggests that could be where they're from.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe God planned it for right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and so when God, so when God was making

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<v Speaker 1>the earth, he's like, I'm going to make a natural

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<v Speaker 1>language because one day, one day, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think that God does those

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<v Speaker 2>things all the time. And so when you read these passages,

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<v Speaker 2>understanding that he's saying, you need to allow me to

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<v Speaker 2>change your mind. Remember in the Book of Romans, it

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<v Speaker 2>says we're transformed by allowing God to change the way

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<v Speaker 2>we think, right, Romans, chapter twelve. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>what Jesus is doing, is he's kind of hitting reset.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the first big message. He'd already preached, repent

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<v Speaker 2>and turned to God, the King of Heaven is near.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd done some of those things, but as far as

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<v Speaker 2>this first big, full fledged message, this very likely is

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<v Speaker 2>a conglomeration of multiple days of preaching, right that they

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<v Speaker 2>put together there in this preaching session. But he's hitting

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<v Speaker 2>reset on everything that people understood about faith, religion in

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<v Speaker 2>those things and starts putting it into a lifestyle that

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<v Speaker 2>his heart driven more than rules driven. Right, So the

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<v Speaker 2>Pharisees had all these laws, and they were pretty good

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<v Speaker 2>at keeping those laws, but their heart was far from

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<v Speaker 2>God as a matter of fact. In this message, was

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<v Speaker 2>it when you get in chapter seven he goes he

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<v Speaker 2>starts calling out the Pharisees, and he tells him, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are like painted tombs whited sepulchers. You're painted white

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<v Speaker 2>and beautiful and clean on the outside, but on the

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<v Speaker 2>inside you're full of dead men's bones. That's the whole point.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how he kind of ends this message. The beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of the message is, let me tell you, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>about the heart. How you approach this thing is more

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<v Speaker 2>important than just cleaning up the outside. Although as you

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<v Speaker 2>begin to go God's way, the outside cleans up too.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's it, and that's why he says, you're the

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<v Speaker 2>light light of the world city, your light on a

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<v Speaker 2>city on a hill. Right, and by the way, which

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<v Speaker 2>our politicians have used that phrase many times it describe

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<v Speaker 2>our country. But Jesus, Jesus said it first, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, this is the conversation that he

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<v Speaker 1>had with the woman at the well. And the woman

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<v Speaker 1>at the well, they were talking about, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>traditions and where should you worship, and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>worship on this mountain or that, you know, or in

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<v Speaker 1>Jerusalem where the temple is. And then this conversation was

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<v Speaker 1>and then Jesus looked at her and said, soon there

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<v Speaker 1>will come a time where it won't matter where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You can just worship God in spirit and in truth. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>just in spirit and truth. It's all about the heart.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, that's that's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So then what's inside should be coming out. And so

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<v Speaker 2>he hits reset and says, it's all about the heart.

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<v Speaker 2>But then, if your heart's right, you're the salt of

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<v Speaker 2>the earth. You're going to make an impact.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you touch on the.

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<v Speaker 2>If your heart's right, you're the light of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And so he ends it with in the same way,

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<v Speaker 2>let your good deeds shine out for all to see,

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<v Speaker 2>so that everyone will praise your heavenly Father. It's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>because earlier, a little later, just a few versus later,

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<v Speaker 2>he calls out the Pharisees for bringing attention to themselves

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<v Speaker 2>when they give generously to poor people, or when they

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<v Speaker 2>pray or when they fast, And at the same time

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<v Speaker 2>he says, listen, when your heart's right, then your motivation

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<v Speaker 2>for doing good is so that others will see that

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<v Speaker 2>there's a God in heaven who changes lives. Yeah, rather

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<v Speaker 2>than look at how good of a follower of God,

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<v Speaker 2>I am right. There's a big differ between those two things.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love how Jesus uses salt and then light.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now salt just in itself is a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>illustration because it was such a valuable commodity.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, so salt.

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<v Speaker 1>Preserves that you can rub it on meat, Salt heels, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we gargle with salt, water, salt, it flavors, right, salt,

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<v Speaker 1>what else does it do? Salt melts, we throw around rock, salt,

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<v Speaker 1>and so salt does so many different things, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a valuable commodity. And he says, hey, if it loses

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<v Speaker 1>all that, it just it gets thrown out. But as

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<v Speaker 1>of right now, you are the salt of the earth.

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<v Speaker 1>You are the people. You're my disciple.

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<v Speaker 2>Salt changes everything, It touches everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And then he goes on to say, you're the

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<v Speaker 1>light of the world. Then, and you know, think about light.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about how valuable light is compared to the darkness.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he says, nobody lights a candle and puts

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<v Speaker 1>it under a bushel. He's like, that defeats the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of light, right, think about it. He says, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>light a candle where you put it. You put it

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<v Speaker 1>on a candlestick high in the house. Why so everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in the room could see. A city that is set

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<v Speaker 1>on a hill cannot be hidden. And he's referring to

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<v Speaker 1>cities that were built back then. Oftentimes were placed on

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<v Speaker 1>hills as beacons, but more so for strategic purposes, so

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<v Speaker 1>that people could not attack. They'd have to climb up

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<v Speaker 1>a hill. Then they would build walls around the city.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to climb uphills and then scale walls. And

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<v Speaker 1>so to fortify a city, you would place it up

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<v Speaker 1>on a hill. And when it's lit at night, with

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<v Speaker 1>all the torches and everything else, you cannot hide that city.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see it from miles around. And so at

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<v Speaker 1>night time, if you're traveling you don't have to wonder

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<v Speaker 1>where the city is, as it's there, and so everybody

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<v Speaker 1>would have known that. And so he says, hey, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a city on a hill. I cannot be hidden. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>you are the light of the world. Let your light

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<v Speaker 1>so shine before men that they may see your good

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<v Speaker 1>works and glorify your father, which is in heaven. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you're just like that light on a candlestick. You're like

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<v Speaker 1>that city on a hill. And he says, and he say,

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<v Speaker 1>the value of light in the darkness, the value of

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<v Speaker 1>salt on the earth. That's who we are in Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how he chooses both of those, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>so rich.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well, sorry about that. We won't pass our time,

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<v Speaker 1>but we will see you hopefully tomorrows.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody that's free.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not trying to scam anything, all right, We'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you next time on the Valva. Guys,