The David Leifeste Podcast

Dr. Kathy Campbell, pharmacist and author of Obesity: The Modern Famine, on why obesity is a symptom, why dieting fails, and why mental health is often physical health.

Show Notes

Most of us have had a bad experience with medicine: side effects, copays we can't afford, a drug that stopped working while we kept getting sick. Dr. Kathy Campbell has been a pharmacist in one Oklahoma community for 35 years and has served five generations of patients, and somewhere along the way she saw that the medications only worked when food and movement came with them. Her book and TEDx talk, Obesity: The Modern Famine, make a case that surprised me. Obesity isn't the problem. It's a symptom of a body that is starving for what it needs. We talk about why dieting keeps failing, why she says movement instead of exercise, the foundations of health (nutrition, sunlight, water, oxygen, movement, love and connection), her definition of trauma as what your body had to do to survive it, why mental health is often physical health, and the research connecting metabolism and the brain. Kathy is also building a network of wellness pharmacists so the pharmacist can help you before you are sick, not only after.

Chapters:
0:00 Coming up
0:31 The David Leifeste Show
0:52 Welcome: Dr. Kathy Campbell
1:43 Our bad experiences with medicine
2:29 Seven years of chemistry
4:24 Obesity: The Modern Famine
4:46 Obesity is a symptom, not the problem
5:59 Why dieting keeps failing
7:04 The TEDx talk and the book
7:49 Nutrition in medical school
8:12 35 years, five generations of patients
8:32 Medication only works alongside diet and movement
9:18 Does your doctor talk about food?
9:46 73% of our food is ultra-processed
11:09 Movement, not exercise
12:04 Foundational health
12:32 Your personal fishbowl
13:29 The wellness pharmacist
14:14 The Wellness Pharmacy Network
14:52 My job is to help you not need medications
15:14 Love is the most powerful chemistry
16:54 The five Es
17:49 Trauma and physical health
19:17 Trauma is what your body had to do to survive
19:29 The brain is an organ
20:39 Love as acceptance
22:04 Physiology first, then the psychology of change
22:49 A diet that is toxic and deficient
23:12 Eat more of the right stuff
24:12 The skeptic at the hospital
27:04 Brain Energy and metabolic mental health
28:12 Less medicine, more love
28:59 A culture that produces health
29:29 Mothers as chief medical officer
30:02 What other cultures get right
31:39 Where to find Dr. Kathy
32:18 Thank you, Dr. Kathy
32:35 Until next time

This conversation is for education, not medical advice. Please talk with your own doctor before changing any medication or starting a therapeutic diet.

Watch Dr. Kathy's TEDx talk, Obesity: The Modern Famine: https://www.ted.com/talks/kathy_campbell_obesity_the_modern_famine

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ABOUT THE GUEST
Dr. Kathy M. Campbell, PharmD, has been a community pharmacist in Oklahoma for more than 30 years. She owns Owasso Wellness Pharmacy & Compounding, founded the Wellness Pharmacy Network, and wrote Obesity: The Modern Famine, the follow-up to her 2018 TEDx talk of the same name.
Website: https://drkathysays.com
Instagram: @drkathysays
Facebook: Kathy Brooks Campbell

ABOUT DAVID
David Leifeste, M.S., L.P.C., is a psychotherapist and executive coach, and the author of The Possibility of You. The David Leifeste Podcast brings the book's message to life: honest conversations about the stories that keep us stuck, and the way back to your true self.

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