WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.166 --> 00:00:04.087 Welcome to the Colour Time Podcast. I am your host 2 00:00:04.087 --> 00:00:06.548 Vincent Taylor. This is the 3 00:00:06.548 --> 00:00:08.466 podcast where we speak with professionals who work 4 00:00:08.466 --> 00:00:10.552 with colour. Very often on the 5 00:00:10.552 --> 00:00:12.554 show I'm chatting to folks within the film and 6 00:00:12.554 --> 00:00:13.972 television industry because of 7 00:00:13.972 --> 00:00:17.016 my background as a colourist. But the 8 00:00:17.016 --> 00:00:19.102 goal of this podcast was to speak to 9 00:00:19.102 --> 00:00:22.147 people in all sorts of disciplines who work with 10 00:00:22.147 --> 00:00:23.273 colour and today we're gonna 11 00:00:23.273 --> 00:00:26.526 do that. Today we're chatting to an amazing painter 12 00:00:26.526 --> 00:00:29.154 Anna Evans. Anna is based 13 00:00:29.195 --> 00:00:32.866 in New Zealand. She works with beautiful beautiful 14 00:00:32.866 --> 00:00:35.285 colour. Check out the show 15 00:00:35.285 --> 00:00:39.080 notes that'll link to her work but you're gonna 16 00:00:39.080 --> 00:00:40.665 love this conversation. Let's go. 17 00:00:42.709 --> 00:00:46.254 Take your seats because the hourglass is about to 18 00:00:46.254 --> 00:00:48.965 turn. We are entering the world 19 00:00:48.965 --> 00:00:54.012 of the micro podcast. Explore the craft, creativity 20 00:00:54.012 --> 00:00:56.222 and science of professionals 21 00:00:56.514 --> 00:01:01.394 who use colour to tell stories. Welcome to the 22 00:01:01.394 --> 00:01:04.022 Colour Timer with Vincent Taylor. 23 00:01:11.988 --> 00:01:16.159 Anna, hi. Thank you for joining me. Thank you for 24 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:18.411 having me. Absolutely. I should say 25 00:01:18.411 --> 00:01:22.081 Kia ora because I actually grew 26 00:01:22.081 --> 00:01:24.250 up in New Zealand but you are a New 27 00:01:24.292 --> 00:01:26.669 Zealander but you're not a New Zealander. What's 28 00:01:26.669 --> 00:01:29.672 your background? Yes. I was 29 00:01:29.672 --> 00:01:32.592 born in Rochdale, England which is northern 30 00:01:32.592 --> 00:01:35.136 Manchester and I migrated to 31 00:01:35.136 --> 00:01:38.848 New Zealand Auckland area as well when I was 11. 32 00:01:39.557 --> 00:01:40.975 Yeah so you're pretty much Kiwi 33 00:01:40.975 --> 00:01:43.603 now right? Yeah well I feel like a 34 00:01:43.603 --> 00:01:45.605 Kiwi but you know I guess culturally 35 00:01:45.688 --> 00:01:51.569 identity wise I'm a migrant, long history of 36 00:01:51.569 --> 00:01:53.279 migrants. Long history of migrants. 37 00:01:53.905 --> 00:01:55.698 I migrated all around the world. 38 00:01:56.908 --> 00:02:01.120 Well I'm gonna, two seconds before we 39 00:02:01.120 --> 00:02:02.664 started the recording I said that I 40 00:02:02.664 --> 00:02:03.832 have in the past sometimes started 41 00:02:03.915 --> 00:02:05.625 interviewing people and forgot to start my sand 42 00:02:05.625 --> 00:02:06.584 time out and I almost forgot 43 00:02:06.584 --> 00:02:09.587 this time so I'm gonna start it. Are you ready for 44 00:02:09.587 --> 00:02:10.672 the game show to begin? Here we 45 00:02:10.713 --> 00:02:18.429 go. Now I discovered you or I kind 46 00:02:18.429 --> 00:02:21.224 of actually my wife sent me a video of 47 00:02:22.016 --> 00:02:23.893 something you had done. You were an artist, you're 48 00:02:23.893 --> 00:02:26.062 a painter and she showed me this 49 00:02:26.062 --> 00:02:31.150 really cool video you did talking about primary 50 00:02:31.150 --> 00:02:33.862 colours. Now primary colours are 51 00:02:33.862 --> 00:02:38.533 red, green and blue. Red, green and red, yellow and 52 00:02:38.533 --> 00:02:39.742 red, yellow and blue. I'm 53 00:02:39.742 --> 00:02:41.202 thinking of video. See I did 54 00:02:41.202 --> 00:02:42.912 it already but you're saying 55 00:02:42.912 --> 00:02:46.499 but you're saying no. You're saying you got a 56 00:02:46.499 --> 00:02:48.668 different opinion. No yeah I'm 57 00:02:48.668 --> 00:02:50.461 saying the primary colours are 58 00:02:50.461 --> 00:02:53.214 cyan, yellow and magenta and they're the 59 00:02:53.214 --> 00:02:54.966 subtractive primary colours. So 60 00:02:54.966 --> 00:02:57.176 the primary colours you just first 61 00:02:57.176 --> 00:02:59.721 mentioned red, green and blue are the additive 62 00:02:59.721 --> 00:03:01.973 primary colours and the ones that we were 63 00:03:01.973 --> 00:03:04.642 taught in primary school was red, 64 00:03:04.642 --> 00:03:06.269 yellow and blue and the other ones I 65 00:03:06.269 --> 00:03:14.193 dispute. So tell me about that. Why? Okay so I 66 00:03:14.193 --> 00:03:16.154 guess this all started way 67 00:03:16.195 --> 00:03:17.906 way way back in time when I was 68 00:03:17.906 --> 00:03:20.408 probably about four or five and we were 69 00:03:20.408 --> 00:03:22.911 learning primary colours at school and the teacher 70 00:03:22.911 --> 00:03:24.579 gave us the red, the yellow 71 00:03:24.579 --> 00:03:26.748 and the blue and told us that we can make green 72 00:03:26.748 --> 00:03:28.750 with blue and yellow and yeah 73 00:03:28.750 --> 00:03:30.501 we could make green and we can make 74 00:03:30.501 --> 00:03:32.795 orange with red and yellow and we could 75 00:03:32.795 --> 00:03:35.131 make orange and she told us that we can make purple 76 00:03:35.131 --> 00:03:37.800 with blue and red but that's 77 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:41.596 not what happened because well she 78 00:03:41.596 --> 00:03:44.432 had probably given us a warm red a 79 00:03:44.474 --> 00:03:46.225 vermillion or something and a warm blue 80 00:03:46.225 --> 00:03:47.810 and so when they mixed together they 81 00:03:47.810 --> 00:03:51.689 made this kind of like almost I would say it would 82 00:03:51.689 --> 00:03:53.024 be like a more darker brown 83 00:03:53.024 --> 00:03:55.818 version of what I wanted like a kind of deep maroon 84 00:03:55.818 --> 00:03:59.447 burgundy brown dried blood colour. 85 00:04:00.281 --> 00:04:03.910 So I was never very happy with that and I always 86 00:04:03.910 --> 00:04:04.911 wanted to make those really 87 00:04:04.994 --> 00:04:08.790 vibrant pinks and purples that we get and then 88 00:04:08.790 --> 00:04:10.708 years past years past I learnt a 89 00:04:10.708 --> 00:04:12.043 bit more as I got older about 90 00:04:12.043 --> 00:04:13.836 painting and mixing colours and then I was 91 00:04:13.878 --> 00:04:16.089 introduced to a teacher that showed us that if we 92 00:04:16.089 --> 00:04:18.257 used a cold red and a warm 93 00:04:18.257 --> 00:04:20.426 red the cold red and the cold blue would give us 94 00:04:20.426 --> 00:04:23.096 something closer to a purple but 95 00:04:23.096 --> 00:04:26.307 it still wasn't quite right and then I started by 96 00:04:26.307 --> 00:04:27.684 that stage I was about 15 or 97 00:04:27.684 --> 00:04:30.269 16 and I was looking up on the internet all about 98 00:04:30.269 --> 00:04:33.272 colour and my dad who happened 99 00:04:33.272 --> 00:04:37.276 to teach science had one of those I guess they're 100 00:04:37.276 --> 00:04:38.778 like slip things you shine 101 00:04:38.778 --> 00:04:41.030 the light through and then I found out all about 102 00:04:41.030 --> 00:04:42.407 red green and blue and how the 103 00:04:42.407 --> 00:04:45.827 secondary colours of red green and blue are cyan 104 00:04:45.827 --> 00:04:47.912 yellow and magenta and how that 105 00:04:47.912 --> 00:04:51.457 related to print so all went through that process 106 00:04:51.457 --> 00:04:52.375 and then I found out that 107 00:04:52.375 --> 00:04:54.752 yes sure enough all the colour printers are cyan 108 00:04:54.752 --> 00:04:56.671 yellow and magenta. Oh my gosh 109 00:04:56.671 --> 00:04:58.339 what a journey. And it made perfect sense from 110 00:04:58.339 --> 00:05:01.676 there that if we just go and 111 00:05:01.676 --> 00:05:04.012 get magenta and blue we can make 112 00:05:04.095 --> 00:05:05.847 beautiful purple so I managed to get 113 00:05:05.847 --> 00:05:08.182 some paint and sure enough yeah I was 114 00:05:08.224 --> 00:05:11.769 able to paint purples and pinks which is what I had 115 00:05:11.769 --> 00:05:14.397 always wanted to do. What was the thing that you 116 00:05:14.397 --> 00:05:16.190 was that like a kaleidoscope you 117 00:05:16.190 --> 00:05:18.568 mean or what was that you're saying your dad had? 118 00:05:19.444 --> 00:05:23.406 No so in in the physics department 119 00:05:23.573 --> 00:05:28.703 and they have like I think it's called a slit thing 120 00:05:28.703 --> 00:05:30.079 basically you shine light 121 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:34.500 through to see the light waves and I guess the 122 00:05:34.500 --> 00:05:36.544 waves and the light shines 123 00:05:36.627 --> 00:05:38.337 through and when you mix the colours up you can 124 00:05:38.337 --> 00:05:39.547 even do it with light if you get 125 00:05:39.547 --> 00:05:42.133 three torches with red green and blue light and 126 00:05:42.133 --> 00:05:43.468 combine all the light together 127 00:05:43.468 --> 00:05:45.928 it will show the white because all the light mix 128 00:05:45.928 --> 00:05:48.931 you'll know that yeah and then 129 00:05:48.931 --> 00:05:51.726 you get like red and blue and it will give you 130 00:05:51.726 --> 00:05:55.063 magenta and then you get red 131 00:05:55.063 --> 00:05:59.400 and green and it'll give you yellow so in light 132 00:05:59.400 --> 00:06:00.943 that's how it works and so 133 00:06:00.943 --> 00:06:03.362 what's happening is that the secondary 134 00:06:03.362 --> 00:06:05.073 colours when they're mixing is making 135 00:06:05.782 --> 00:06:09.327 the pigment primary colours so they're kind of 136 00:06:09.327 --> 00:06:10.828 inside out versions of each 137 00:06:10.828 --> 00:06:13.998 other. Yeah it does it does. I think it's to do 138 00:06:13.998 --> 00:06:16.959 with because light how light 139 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.796 bounces off an object so when the Sun's shining 140 00:06:19.796 --> 00:06:21.923 down and we're seeing something 141 00:06:21.923 --> 00:06:25.885 that I guess to us appears green what's happening 142 00:06:25.885 --> 00:06:27.261 is it's absorbing all of the 143 00:06:27.261 --> 00:06:30.139 stuff that makes it magenta and that light's 144 00:06:30.139 --> 00:06:32.016 bouncing back yeah and it 145 00:06:32.058 --> 00:06:34.977 becomes green so I think that's why they work 146 00:06:34.977 --> 00:06:36.229 inside out of each other but 147 00:06:36.229 --> 00:06:38.815 the same thing happens with subtractive primary 148 00:06:38.815 --> 00:06:40.399 colours so when we mix cyan and 149 00:06:40.399 --> 00:06:42.777 yellow we get green and when we mix yellow and 150 00:06:42.777 --> 00:06:45.404 magenta we get red or orange 151 00:06:45.404 --> 00:06:47.698 depending on how we balance it out 152 00:06:47.698 --> 00:06:50.368 and then between magenta and cyan we get 153 00:06:50.368 --> 00:06:54.997 blue as we know it like that kind of ultra marine. 154 00:06:55.331 --> 00:06:56.499 Oh yes. I guess we call it. 155 00:06:56.499 --> 00:07:02.004 Now yes see I told you this would go fast I'm 156 00:07:02.004 --> 00:07:02.797 already looking at the sand 157 00:07:02.797 --> 00:07:03.965 timer, I go oh I've got so many more 158 00:07:03.965 --> 00:07:09.220 questions. To me at least it speaks 159 00:07:09.220 --> 00:07:12.682 volumes that as a little girl you kind of went hang 160 00:07:12.682 --> 00:07:13.766 on that's that's not right 161 00:07:13.766 --> 00:07:15.852 or that or at least it at least it 162 00:07:15.852 --> 00:07:17.687 planted a seed or put a little splinter 163 00:07:17.687 --> 00:07:20.565 in there where you just went oh it's not that's not 164 00:07:20.565 --> 00:07:22.024 what it should be or whatever 165 00:07:22.150 --> 00:07:25.653 and you it's not the right colour. No and you'd get 166 00:07:25.653 --> 00:07:27.655 teachers that would say mix a 167 00:07:27.655 --> 00:07:30.408 bit of white in it and be like okay mix a bit of 168 00:07:30.408 --> 00:07:31.576 white in it and then it just was 169 00:07:31.576 --> 00:07:36.956 like a mauve-y beige brown it wasn't purple you 170 00:07:36.956 --> 00:07:39.041 know what I mean so and I was 171 00:07:39.041 --> 00:07:41.794 always one of those I was a bit like you know I'm 172 00:07:41.794 --> 00:07:43.504 the imprint new clothed child 173 00:07:43.504 --> 00:07:46.340 that's like no no Miss that ain't right that's not 174 00:07:46.340 --> 00:07:48.509 purple this is brown what this 175 00:07:48.551 --> 00:07:51.012 is just not purple and then 176 00:07:51.012 --> 00:07:53.472 oh my gosh they hated you right 177 00:07:54.682 --> 00:07:58.144 hmm that's what I was one of those like know it all 178 00:07:58.144 --> 00:07:59.896 kids I guess to be honest but 179 00:07:59.896 --> 00:08:04.025 you what whatever 180 00:08:04.025 --> 00:08:06.027 whatever it was in you to keep exploring 181 00:08:06.027 --> 00:08:11.115 that I mean I've introduced you as a painter and oh 182 00:08:11.115 --> 00:08:12.074 my gosh are you a painter 183 00:08:12.074 --> 00:08:15.369 I love your work it's so and and and here's the 184 00:08:15.369 --> 00:08:16.162 thing about your paintings 185 00:08:16.329 --> 00:08:18.372 that I love so much they're really 186 00:08:18.372 --> 00:08:20.875 really bright and colorful but they're 187 00:08:20.875 --> 00:08:25.046 not as well it's this really it's really hard for 188 00:08:25.046 --> 00:08:28.007 me to articulate yeah yeah well 189 00:08:28.007 --> 00:08:31.844 thank you I guess - I hope it was a compliment 190 00:08:31.844 --> 00:08:33.763 it was supposed to be 191 00:08:34.514 --> 00:08:36.349 No, no. I'll take it. 192 00:08:36.349 --> 00:08:38.392 it's an interesting that my 193 00:08:38.392 --> 00:08:40.853 work has definitely gone through a big transition 194 00:08:40.853 --> 00:08:42.521 period since I had my little 195 00:08:42.688 --> 00:08:45.566 boy just because time is super 196 00:08:45.566 --> 00:08:48.069 condensed and you don't have as much and 197 00:08:48.069 --> 00:08:52.114 also just I guess - since like you're become 198 00:08:52.114 --> 00:08:53.324 a mother you sort of it's 199 00:08:53.324 --> 00:08:56.118 like another adolescence in many ways you just go 200 00:08:56.118 --> 00:08:57.495 through a change I suppose 201 00:08:57.495 --> 00:09:01.749 and I guess that reflects in my work as an artist a 202 00:09:01.749 --> 00:09:04.710 little yeah maybe you paint 203 00:09:04.710 --> 00:09:07.129 you know your landscapes but a lot of 204 00:09:07.129 --> 00:09:09.173 birds what is it about the birds that 205 00:09:09.257 --> 00:09:14.595 draws you in oh well that's again um that almost 206 00:09:14.595 --> 00:09:15.888 feels like a lifetime ago 207 00:09:15.888 --> 00:09:18.683 because since I had my boy I have been painting a 208 00:09:18.683 --> 00:09:20.059 lot a few birds but not a 209 00:09:20.059 --> 00:09:23.813 lot a large body of my work was birds and I don't 210 00:09:23.813 --> 00:09:25.731 know why I was drawn to birds 211 00:09:25.731 --> 00:09:28.401 for the longest time I guess that was a sense of 212 00:09:28.401 --> 00:09:31.821 freedom and and that there were 213 00:09:31.862 --> 00:09:39.203 all these birds that are bright colored and they're 214 00:09:39.203 --> 00:09:40.997 not really of a memory of me 215 00:09:40.997 --> 00:09:43.749 from when I was a small child where they're those 216 00:09:43.749 --> 00:09:46.961 more brownie kind of gray 217 00:09:46.961 --> 00:09:50.006 colors of UK birds like the colors 218 00:09:50.006 --> 00:09:52.008 in New Zealand are wildly different to 219 00:09:52.008 --> 00:09:54.135 where I come from as a child 220 00:09:54.135 --> 00:09:57.013 like Manchester's really industrial 221 00:09:57.346 --> 00:10:00.308 browns grays the sky itself is kind 222 00:10:00.308 --> 00:10:02.768 of more often than not dull and when I 223 00:10:02.768 --> 00:10:04.270 arrived in New Zealand it's like 224 00:10:04.270 --> 00:10:07.606 super bright and colorful and there's all 225 00:10:07.606 --> 00:10:11.986 these crazy looking exotic trees and I suppose the 226 00:10:11.986 --> 00:10:14.405 birds are kind of a way of 227 00:10:14.989 --> 00:10:20.369 capturing how I would view New Zealand before 228 00:10:20.369 --> 00:10:23.080 migrants like me came do you know 229 00:10:23.122 --> 00:10:26.917 what I mean like it's a land that didn't have 230 00:10:26.917 --> 00:10:28.878 mammals until humans arrived 231 00:10:28.878 --> 00:10:32.173 and brought them apart from a bat so I guess the 232 00:10:32.173 --> 00:10:33.674 birds are like the original 233 00:10:34.383 --> 00:10:38.471 owners of New Zealand well going going back going 234 00:10:38.471 --> 00:10:40.765 - Going back a lifetime ago... - They were the ones that were here first 235 00:10:40.765 --> 00:10:43.934 when I did do art history and I remember studying 236 00:10:43.934 --> 00:10:46.437 don't ask me any names but I 237 00:10:46.437 --> 00:10:48.814 remember studying some Kiwi painters you know 238 00:10:48.814 --> 00:10:51.275 Europeans who came to New Zealand 239 00:10:51.442 --> 00:10:52.902 and they were so struck by the 240 00:10:52.902 --> 00:10:55.905 quality of the light and the colors and and 241 00:10:55.905 --> 00:10:59.116 that really kind of changed the way that they they 242 00:10:59.116 --> 00:11:00.659 painted or at least what they 243 00:11:00.659 --> 00:11:03.662 explored I mean that sounds almost exactly like 244 00:11:03.662 --> 00:11:06.665 you're what you're talking about. 245 00:11:06.665 --> 00:11:09.752 Yeah well I guess it is because I mean I 246 00:11:09.752 --> 00:11:11.545 obviously was 11 so it's I'm not 247 00:11:11.545 --> 00:11:13.464 coming at it from an adult viewpoint 248 00:11:13.464 --> 00:11:17.802 but it has always stuck with me the 249 00:11:17.843 --> 00:11:21.347 intensity of light when I arrived here like I 250 00:11:21.347 --> 00:11:22.681 remember the first morning we 251 00:11:22.681 --> 00:11:25.810 woke up and it was an incredible sunrise it was 252 00:11:25.810 --> 00:11:28.729 these beautiful pinks and oranges 253 00:11:28.896 --> 00:11:34.443 and these gradients of just like an explosion of 254 00:11:34.443 --> 00:11:36.654 magenta and orange it was 255 00:11:36.654 --> 00:11:39.824 just the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen and I 256 00:11:39.824 --> 00:11:40.908 was like well so this is where 257 00:11:40.908 --> 00:11:44.036 we're living now oh cool this is amazing and then 258 00:11:44.036 --> 00:11:45.663 later in the day we went out 259 00:11:45.704 --> 00:11:49.834 and we went to Takapuna Beach and it was just 260 00:11:49.834 --> 00:11:52.837 turquoise the water and I was 261 00:11:52.837 --> 00:11:57.049 like whoa like I thought that this was something 262 00:11:57.049 --> 00:11:58.676 from Treasure Island you know 263 00:11:58.676 --> 00:12:02.721 because you'd see like - that's fantastic - but yeah a 264 00:12:02.721 --> 00:12:03.639 lot different from where I 265 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.392 can I love I love I love watching you as you're 266 00:12:06.392 --> 00:12:08.185 talking about color you just you 267 00:12:08.185 --> 00:12:10.187 kind of light up for yourself and 268 00:12:10.187 --> 00:12:14.984 it's wonderful it's really cool it's 269 00:12:15.025 --> 00:12:18.487 probably my most favorite thing to talk about or 270 00:12:18.487 --> 00:12:20.781 argue about well you said you 271 00:12:20.781 --> 00:12:22.283 said that you know you haven't been 272 00:12:22.283 --> 00:12:25.453 doing birds as much so so what have you 273 00:12:25.870 --> 00:12:30.207 maybe moved on to another topic or yeah my latest 274 00:12:30.207 --> 00:12:31.792 obsession actually has been 275 00:12:31.792 --> 00:12:34.753 gardens yeah, obsession and 276 00:12:34.753 --> 00:12:37.840 gardens and it all comes from again this is 277 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:41.469 related to color fascination with dahlias or 278 00:12:41.469 --> 00:12:42.595 dahlias I believe they're 279 00:12:42.636 --> 00:12:45.973 actually supposed to be pronounced as dahlias so 280 00:12:45.973 --> 00:12:48.225 the way a dahlia grows yeah 281 00:12:48.225 --> 00:12:52.605 potatoes potatoes well yes so what 282 00:12:52.605 --> 00:12:54.523 I found out and this is what made me 283 00:12:54.523 --> 00:12:57.067 obsessed with them is when you plant a dahlia seed 284 00:12:57.067 --> 00:12:58.777 you have no idea what color 285 00:12:58.777 --> 00:13:01.822 it's gonna come out or what shape so you I could 286 00:13:01.822 --> 00:13:04.033 get a seed from a red dahlia 287 00:13:04.033 --> 00:13:07.328 and when I plant it I don't know whether it's gonna 288 00:13:07.328 --> 00:13:09.747 be a frilly double they call 289 00:13:09.788 --> 00:13:12.249 them or like a single with one row of petals so 290 00:13:12.249 --> 00:13:14.293 it's completely a surprise and 291 00:13:14.293 --> 00:13:18.339 so when you plant the seed you have no idea what's 292 00:13:18.339 --> 00:13:19.423 gonna come out and then like 293 00:13:19.423 --> 00:13:21.884 between 70 and 90 days later you've got this 294 00:13:21.884 --> 00:13:24.094 surprise flower and so I just 295 00:13:24.094 --> 00:13:27.014 thought that's the coolest thing ever I can plant 296 00:13:27.014 --> 00:13:29.141 like you know hundreds of 297 00:13:29.141 --> 00:13:31.268 these things and I'm gonna have an explosion of 298 00:13:31.268 --> 00:13:32.561 random colors and I don't 299 00:13:32.561 --> 00:13:35.356 know what they're gonna be like and so I did it for 300 00:13:35.356 --> 00:13:36.774 one season and I just fell in 301 00:13:36.815 --> 00:13:38.275 love and then I just started growing 302 00:13:38.275 --> 00:13:40.319 more and more and more and then I just 303 00:13:40.402 --> 00:13:43.781 became obsessed with like crossbreeding dahlias and 304 00:13:43.781 --> 00:13:44.990 then and then I was like oh 305 00:13:44.990 --> 00:13:46.492 dahlias are cool and then there's all these other 306 00:13:46.492 --> 00:13:48.327 flowers and so I just yeah 307 00:13:48.327 --> 00:13:50.996 again that's after I had my son and I think it's I 308 00:13:50.996 --> 00:13:52.289 started doing that because 309 00:13:52.289 --> 00:13:55.543 when you're carrying up because I carried my boy 310 00:13:55.543 --> 00:13:56.919 around I was one of those 311 00:13:56.919 --> 00:14:00.714 mums that had the slings and he was just always 312 00:14:00.714 --> 00:14:02.424 with me so gardening was like 313 00:14:02.466 --> 00:14:05.511 this new creative outlet that I just fully threw 314 00:14:05.511 --> 00:14:09.056 myself into and yeah when I 315 00:14:09.056 --> 00:14:11.058 when I become obsessed with something I do... 316 00:14:12.643 --> 00:14:17.314 When you're approaching a painting or when you're 317 00:14:17.314 --> 00:14:21.318 starting a painting whether it be birds or the 318 00:14:21.318 --> 00:14:23.571 gardens the plants the flowers do 319 00:14:23.571 --> 00:14:26.865 you have a sense already of the colors that are 320 00:14:26.865 --> 00:14:28.409 gonna go into that or do they 321 00:14:28.450 --> 00:14:31.787 come as your painting? That's 322 00:14:31.787 --> 00:14:34.331 interesting so like I've got this 323 00:14:34.331 --> 00:14:38.252 work right here with me this one I did as a speed 324 00:14:38.252 --> 00:14:39.503 painting so one of the things 325 00:14:39.503 --> 00:14:41.839 I'm doing this year has been I really 326 00:14:41.839 --> 00:14:44.341 want to speed myself up and get more 327 00:14:44.341 --> 00:14:47.386 looser and fluid with how I paint so I've been 328 00:14:47.386 --> 00:14:49.805 setting aside between an hour 329 00:14:49.805 --> 00:14:53.350 and 90 minute sessions a day to do some paintings 330 00:14:53.350 --> 00:14:55.936 and basically because that goes 331 00:14:56.020 --> 00:15:00.024 so fast I have no choice but to just sort of like 332 00:15:00.024 --> 00:15:01.650 be intuitive and let it go 333 00:15:01.650 --> 00:15:03.986 so this is based on one of those 334 00:15:03.986 --> 00:15:06.363 paintings which was yeah I was just 335 00:15:06.363 --> 00:15:08.032 painting and then I thought I'll 336 00:15:08.032 --> 00:15:10.159 put some purple in there and I'll make 337 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:15.247 this yeah I'll do some Queensland's lace and I'll 338 00:15:15.247 --> 00:15:17.041 put some blue asters and things 339 00:15:17.041 --> 00:15:19.835 like that and there's some salvia and and yeah at 340 00:15:19.835 --> 00:15:21.670 that point is I think that 341 00:15:21.712 --> 00:15:23.422 purple will go real nice with this 342 00:15:23.422 --> 00:15:26.175 purple or this blue so it becomes a bit 343 00:15:26.175 --> 00:15:31.263 about orchestrating but yeah it's I think it's a 344 00:15:31.263 --> 00:15:33.682 bit of both like like I do 345 00:15:33.682 --> 00:15:36.101 kind like when they come onto a canvas I know what 346 00:15:36.101 --> 00:15:37.645 they're gonna be because I've 347 00:15:38.103 --> 00:15:40.189 thought about it before but when they're in that 348 00:15:40.189 --> 00:15:42.566 first study stage no it's a bit 349 00:15:42.566 --> 00:15:45.319 more like I will play and see what kind of 350 00:15:45.319 --> 00:15:46.779 instinctually comes out that's 351 00:15:46.779 --> 00:15:48.906 amazing that's so fascinating yeah 352 00:15:48.906 --> 00:15:51.200 it reminds me how I'm not even though 353 00:15:51.241 --> 00:15:52.409 there's a guitar behind me I'm not 354 00:15:52.409 --> 00:15:54.620 a musician but it reminds me of how 355 00:15:54.620 --> 00:15:56.664 musicians talk about you know they've got their 356 00:15:56.664 --> 00:15:58.332 especially jazz musicians you 357 00:15:58.332 --> 00:16:00.042 know they've got they start off with something 358 00:16:00.042 --> 00:16:01.377 structure and then it kind of 359 00:16:01.377 --> 00:16:04.922 yeah yeah it turns into something else yeah like 360 00:16:04.922 --> 00:16:06.924 it's like something influences 361 00:16:07.049 --> 00:16:10.552 it's like you're responding to you'll do something 362 00:16:10.552 --> 00:16:12.346 and then you've got to respond 363 00:16:12.346 --> 00:16:15.391 to it and one part will inform the 364 00:16:15.391 --> 00:16:17.559 next part and it just sort of builds from 365 00:16:17.601 --> 00:16:20.187 there that's how yeah it's probably 366 00:16:20.187 --> 00:16:22.981 quite like Jazz. yeah and are you is it 367 00:16:22.981 --> 00:16:25.275 is it oil paint you use is that where you the 368 00:16:25.275 --> 00:16:27.319 medium that you use or acrylic 369 00:16:27.653 --> 00:16:31.115 no I'm using acrylic because again it's speed 370 00:16:31.115 --> 00:16:34.201 factor time I've got my little 371 00:16:34.201 --> 00:16:38.038 one around I'd love to get back into oils like I 372 00:16:38.038 --> 00:16:39.081 used to paint with oils when 373 00:16:39.081 --> 00:16:42.209 I was at university and um so one day 374 00:16:42.209 --> 00:16:44.002 it's it's my dream when I finally get 375 00:16:44.002 --> 00:16:47.423 this the shed studio properly skidded out so that I 376 00:16:47.423 --> 00:16:49.258 can do it safely and have 377 00:16:49.258 --> 00:16:54.096 things dry and away yeah yeah of course then yeah 378 00:16:54.096 --> 00:16:56.974 do you do you yeah do you ever 379 00:16:56.974 --> 00:16:59.518 have to push yourself to paint or is it the 380 00:16:59.518 --> 00:17:00.936 opposite like you just want to paint 381 00:17:00.936 --> 00:17:04.106 all the time how does that work with your drive I 382 00:17:04.106 --> 00:17:05.149 want to paint all the time 383 00:17:05.149 --> 00:17:07.985 I want to paint all the time and life gets in my 384 00:17:07.985 --> 00:17:10.696 way that's that that's how I'd put it 385 00:17:11.530 --> 00:17:17.369 but the cool thing about being a mom is I have 386 00:17:17.369 --> 00:17:21.206 learned to be less indulgent on 387 00:17:21.206 --> 00:17:25.127 one thing you know like like I'm with my work like 388 00:17:25.127 --> 00:17:27.504 because I put my first point 389 00:17:27.504 --> 00:17:29.757 of energy goes into him and then 390 00:17:29.757 --> 00:17:33.427 everything else is from that so I've got 391 00:17:33.427 --> 00:17:35.637 that's what the speed paintings are about yeah get 392 00:17:35.637 --> 00:17:39.391 faster and looser and yeah 393 00:17:39.433 --> 00:17:43.896 just see where it takes me take off 394 00:17:43.896 --> 00:17:47.316 folks folks who have watched listen to 395 00:17:47.316 --> 00:17:49.902 the podcast know that I'm terrible at sticking 396 00:17:49.902 --> 00:17:51.612 exactly to the time but the time 397 00:17:51.612 --> 00:17:54.615 has stopped but I've got one more kind of question 398 00:17:54.615 --> 00:17:57.493 that I want to ask you it's 399 00:17:57.493 --> 00:17:59.369 not a specific question actually it's it's more 400 00:17:59.369 --> 00:18:01.330 about do you have a color 401 00:18:01.330 --> 00:18:05.459 that you kind of tend to avoid you know like I used 402 00:18:05.459 --> 00:18:07.377 to work with a guy on a show 403 00:18:07.419 --> 00:18:10.881 and he just despised magenta and he'd start to see 404 00:18:10.881 --> 00:18:11.757 magenta where there wasn't 405 00:18:11.757 --> 00:18:15.052 magenta you know is there a color like that or the 406 00:18:15.052 --> 00:18:16.261 opposite one that you always 407 00:18:16.261 --> 00:18:18.138 just gravitate to? 408 00:18:18.138 --> 00:18:20.390 Well that's that is 409 00:18:20.390 --> 00:18:23.977 interesting I don't do it consciously 410 00:18:23.977 --> 00:18:30.025 but I have noticed from my paints that the colors 411 00:18:30.025 --> 00:18:32.152 that I use least of is red 412 00:18:32.152 --> 00:18:38.242 red red or yellow and it might be that because I 413 00:18:38.242 --> 00:18:41.078 use magenta instead of red 414 00:18:41.245 --> 00:18:46.291 that I do if I need a red I will use 415 00:18:46.291 --> 00:18:49.253 that of course but I can also I guess 416 00:18:49.253 --> 00:18:52.506 mix something similar to a red with magenta and 417 00:18:52.506 --> 00:18:53.966 yellow so it might be that 418 00:18:53.966 --> 00:18:56.343 it's red and yellow those interesting probably 419 00:18:56.343 --> 00:18:57.678 least used I think I'm more 420 00:18:57.678 --> 00:19:02.099 drawn to the magenta blue green cyan side of the 421 00:19:02.099 --> 00:19:04.643 spectrum I would say at this 422 00:19:04.643 --> 00:19:08.939 point yeah what what but I don't hate any color 423 00:19:08.939 --> 00:19:11.024 speaking of red what what did 424 00:19:11.024 --> 00:19:13.652 you think of the latest reveal for the King Charles 425 00:19:13.652 --> 00:19:18.448 portrait painting ah that's 426 00:19:18.490 --> 00:19:25.539 an interesting one um I feel like the artist knew 427 00:19:25.539 --> 00:19:29.293 the response it would have I 428 00:19:29.293 --> 00:19:31.670 do feel that I feel like any artist 429 00:19:31.670 --> 00:19:35.215 who's using pinks and reds in such a 430 00:19:35.841 --> 00:19:38.719 bodily sense it looks very internal 431 00:19:38.719 --> 00:19:42.973 inside body fluids I think that they 432 00:19:43.015 --> 00:19:45.183 knew the - how that would 433 00:19:45.183 --> 00:19:51.356 be provocative I think it yeah it's an 434 00:19:51.356 --> 00:19:56.653 interesting one I don't I yeah it's it to me I mean 435 00:19:56.653 --> 00:19:58.780 because when I it looks it 436 00:19:58.780 --> 00:20:02.951 looks war it look it looks like war to me but that's 437 00:20:02.951 --> 00:20:04.995 just because I view those 438 00:20:04.995 --> 00:20:09.541 colors and associate them with horror like if I was 439 00:20:09.541 --> 00:20:10.542 gonna make a horror movie 440 00:20:10.709 --> 00:20:13.879 it probably have a lot of those colors in it yeah I 441 00:20:13.879 --> 00:20:18.800 do yeah and I feel like an 442 00:20:18.800 --> 00:20:21.803 artist would know that I wonder I wonder I wonder 443 00:20:21.803 --> 00:20:24.640 if the artist to I wonder if 444 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:26.433 they have to if they have to say look this is the 445 00:20:26.433 --> 00:20:27.726 style or this is where I'm 446 00:20:27.726 --> 00:20:29.937 going to with this painting or or if 447 00:20:29.937 --> 00:20:31.480 they're just left alone to do their 448 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:38.528 thing yeah I wonder that too I mean 449 00:20:38.528 --> 00:20:40.572 there's been some I can't remember 450 00:20:40.697 --> 00:20:45.494 there was some Queen back in the day yeah yeah yeah 451 00:20:45.494 --> 00:20:47.621 when I say day I mean last century 452 00:20:48.372 --> 00:20:51.875 yeah and I believe that they weren't happy with 453 00:20:51.875 --> 00:20:54.169 portrait of done of her and 454 00:20:54.169 --> 00:20:56.964 they didn't even pay the artist so I don't know I 455 00:20:56.964 --> 00:20:59.883 may maybe maybe the artist 456 00:20:59.883 --> 00:21:02.427 was like oh I'll take a punt I'll make 457 00:21:02.427 --> 00:21:04.680 it look kind of out there and I'll at 458 00:21:04.680 --> 00:21:06.264 least it's certainly got talked 459 00:21:06.264 --> 00:21:09.351 about maybe now speaking of names being 460 00:21:09.393 --> 00:21:12.896 remembered hopefully folks are gonna check out your 461 00:21:12.896 --> 00:21:15.440 work because I've totally 462 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:18.068 totally loved talking to you and I knew I would I 463 00:21:18.068 --> 00:21:19.528 knew I would I could tell I 464 00:21:19.528 --> 00:21:21.488 could tell by that first video I watched I went oh 465 00:21:21.488 --> 00:21:22.781 you sound so interesting in 466 00:21:22.781 --> 00:21:26.994 the way that you you get enthusiastic about things 467 00:21:26.994 --> 00:21:28.370 and you just don't stop I 468 00:21:28.370 --> 00:21:31.248 love it I love it so thank you so much for for 469 00:21:31.248 --> 00:21:32.416 jumping on the podcast with me I 470 00:21:32.416 --> 00:21:33.834 really really appreciate it. 471 00:21:33.834 --> 00:21:34.960 thank you Vincent 472 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:37.045 It's been lovely talking to you too. 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