Mike (00:02) There it goes. Hello, David! How are you? David (00:23) Ho! Hey Mike, I'm a bit old right now! Mike (00:27) You look a little old. I look a little... Bill-like. David (00:28) thank you. You do look like a bill, Bill, but I'm just old tired and I could use some meat on my bones. What? not only a bill, you're just a, anyway, Mike, I'm good, how are you? Mike (00:35) But I am just a on Capitol Hill. Well, hello, David. How are you? I'm terrific. you may notice after our little silliness of a t-shirt talk. ⁓ maybe we should make that a thing. T-shirt talk. I am once again wearing a shirt that is David (00:54) T-shirt talk. Love Mike (01:00) based on the day that we are talking about this week. We are talking about government and specifically one of the three branches of government that's not this one. which David (01:14) we don't judge here. So it's not that one either. Mike (01:18) Very well played. I like that. David (01:20) Thank you. Give it away. Give it away. I gave it away now. Yeah, the executive branch. Mike (01:24) Presidente. And because it's our first President's Day, we decided we should talk about our first President. Who was that, David? David (01:25) See. Yes. That would be George Washington, not Carver. Yes. Were you going there? ⁓ I love it. So not the peanut guy not the peanut president, because that was Carter. Correct. But George Washington, our first president, like, I don't know, ever. Mike (01:37) Car? okay. I gonna say it. Exactly. Jimmy Carter. but like peanuts, that's what we make from the show. So down below, please subscribe to our show and ⁓ send us money. We'll get a Patreon or a, you know, buy me a coffee or something page get started so that we can drink coffee and be caffeinated and be crazier than we are. David (01:58) Yes. love it because this is decaf and clearly it's not working. Mike (02:19) I just switched to Sanka. Have a heart. David (02:22) funny. Mike never has two cups of coffee at home. ⁓ unless he's recording. Mike (02:27) we've used that one before, I think. We've probably used them all. We've been doing this for 40 weeks. David (02:29) Have we? That joke? Take the bus. Mike (02:35) Don't need to discuss much, except about a book called... Hey, George Washington's teeth. Were they carvered? David (02:47) George Washington's teeth. Yes. So ⁓ they were not from the famous peanut tree. No, that was a different myth. Yes. the reason we chose this book is Mike and I, Mike is the brains behind this operation, which is kind of scary. couple three weeks ago, Mike was like, Hey, president's day is coming up. Mike (02:54) okay. Yeah. David (03:09) like, okay. And he was all, we should do a president's book. we were both like, yes! But then we thought, do you have one? No, I don't have one. Do you have one? So we did some research and We found a few, but then we couldn't actually find access to Mike (03:25) Right, because we both tried to go to our local libraries, mine the River Forest Library in Illinois, River Forest Illinois, obviously, and David went to both of his. David (03:32) Mm-hmm. Obviously. Yep, the Grapevine Public Library and the Keller Public Library here in north central Texas. And didn't find the ones we were thinking we were looking for. Nothing stood out, but I went to yet another library. Mike (03:40) Yep. David (03:50) I teach improv public speaking electives at Holy Trinity Catholic School where my girls go to school. And I thought, wait, there's a library there. So I went there yesterday and Miss Dickinson recommended a few books. And one of them was this very book. She said it was hilarious and she had it. So I took it home, I opened it up, I looked at one page and called you Mike and said, let's do this book. Mike (04:13) You did. And then I said, okay, let me see if I can find it at my library. And it was not there. and I looked on Libby and hoopla and they did not have it. So I actually had to go to internet and watch, I don't know, maybe a second grade teacher read it. And, we won't. put a link to it because it was, I did not have an enjoyable time. I turned off the sound. David (04:43) it's funny. You played me a very brief clip of that last night when we were trying to figure out how you were going to do this. And when you just said teacher, I thought it was a second grader. Like I was shocked just now to learn that it was actually an adult. ⁓ Mike (04:58) It was an adult who I believe was in their late 40s or 50s. I'm trying to be nice. I mean, you know, I feel like everybody's my age, but yeah, I'm old now. I still think everybody's my age. And then I look and I'm like, ⁓ you're like in college and I'm totally way not. David (05:03) ⁓ okay. Okay. Not there's anything wrong with that. Right. You have like hair on your head. Mike (05:21) And that's weird. David (05:23) Mm-hmm. do too, but it's the lower half of that. Yeah, okay. So, you in the, that's okay. Mike (05:26) Yeah. sorry. I was enamored with my Van Dyke. That's the Van Dyke. David (05:35) Yeah, we have to not look at ourselves in these monitors here because then we just stop talking and it's... Mike (05:41) because everybody is so, oh my gosh, is there something on my nose? Wait, is that, what? Oh. I'm back. David (05:57) Yeah, so I have to be honest with you. when we committed to the book and you discovered that you had at least one medium that would work and I looked at a, oh wow, it's in poetry, not prose. And I forgot what I looked at, but I thought, hmm, this is not going to be very good. I hope Mike still likes me. Mike (06:00) Yes. David (06:20) And because that was quite late last night and I had slated this morning to sit down and actually read the almost immediately fell in love with it and there are a couple of reasons. number one, even just on the cover, sometimes you can judge a book by its cover. ⁓ Tell me what medium or media the artwork is done. Did you notice from your video? Mike (06:32) Tell me why, tell me why. Absolutely. it's funny because I really did actually think about that, even if it was for the briefest moment. And I thought that there was water color involved. David (06:49) Mm-hmm. You're absolutely correct. Ding ding ding. Right. Mike (06:58) Yay! Not having it in front of me, I can't look the art and go, ⁓ well, that's clearly, watercolor. Yep. David (07:04) Yeah, it's definitely watercolor. And I thought, yay, I love watercolor. Because we've talked about watercolor in Guess So Much I Love You with our friend the rabbit. Mike (07:12) Yes. Don't punch the blind. Zzzz. David (07:18) Can you see? Nope, they're still Yeah, it reminded me what was the book? Was it Mrs. McTats and Her House Full of Cats? That was also a wonderful use of watercolor. And you know me, I love me some watercolor and the watercolor in this book is brilliant. I also consulted not one, but two experts at Holy Trinity because today, after I read the book, Mike (07:26) Yes. Yep. Absolutely. ⁓ David (07:43) We had Teacher Appreciation Week scheduled for last week, and then we got a blizzard, so they did it this week instead, and there's tons of food in the faculty lounge, but also there was Mr. K. And K is short for, he is very special, capital S, he's one of our specials teachers, he's the art teacher. his name is Sheridan Klugovitz, and because we have all the way down to pre-K in our school, he is therefore called Mr. K. And... Mike (07:54) Is he special? Okay. Absolutely. David (08:08) I wasn't gonna do it, because he was getting his lunch together, I thought, no, I gotta do it. So I said, can I talk to you for a second? And we discussed the art in this book and watercolor technique, and it was a really cool conversation. Should I talk about that now? Okay, cool. gonna hold this up for you. This is one of the many awesome scenes of George Washington. And what I love about watercolor is the texture is so cool. Mike (08:19) That's awesome. Yes, absolutely. Yes. Yep. David (08:35) And even though these pictures are really, really drawn well, and you can look at the picture and see the detail, you hear it, you can smell the gunpowder, they're great pictures. You can also look really closely and really see the technique. And with watercolor, you can they did more of the paint there, less of the water, and there's an actual splash of the water. So I brought that up to Mr. K, and I said, did they just draw ink? And he said, sometimes. They draw the ink completely and then color it in. Other times, they let the watercolor splotch and then draw ink around it, depending on what they're doing. And we both agreed that maybe, I said maybe they pencil in the sketches and then re-ink at the end and maybe it's a combination. These are obviously really good detailed drawings of all the different parts President Washington and General Washington's life Mike (09:10) ⁓ David (09:25) before the war, during the war, and after. And I don't know, I just loved it. It was just a great conversation about watercolor. It's one of my favorite media or media in books. Mike (09:33) Awesome. it's really interesting because, ⁓ I think 40 episodes ago and I think, I really had never thought about the medium of the arts that's used in these books. Like literally I had never ever thought about it. it's. Nope. David (09:40) Hahaha Wow, yeah. So not as a kid that you remember, and certainly not as an adult when you're reading a lot of these books to your girls. Wow. Mike (10:00) No, and I am like super interested in the books and the pictures, but I never thought about the pictures as being an form in an art medium. So, yeah. David (10:14) Well, and the other thing that you and I have talked about is in some of these books, especially the ones that are a little less what was the driver of the story? Was it the writer or the illustrator? In the case of, two Dans with Dan Gutman, not only did he do all of his writing and Jim Pio did all of the art, they've met literally once and yet they've collaborated on books for decades. Mike (10:25) Yep. Yes. David (10:39) whereas Daniel Carino does both. He does all of it for his books. Mike (10:42) But he also just does illustrations. So sometimes he is just the illustrator. that's something we didn't really get to talk about either with him because we had so many other things to say. And we probably made it through 10 % of what we wanted to ask him. But yeah, so it's. David (10:47) Yes. Yes, and so little time. Which is a quality problem. Mike (11:03) Yeah, it is a quality problem and hopefully he'll come back like he said he would. David (11:08) I think he likes us so far, but the sequel to Piccolo is coming out this fall, he said. Mike (11:12) so hopefully we can get them on around then as well, but we really want to talk about the animation stuff. but that is not this book. David (11:19) Yes, but we really, really wanna talk about, what you thought. One more thing, I ended up really, really loving the book. So much more than I thought. It's also one of those books that the further along I went, the more I loved it, especially the end, and we'll talk about that in a second, but I wanna hear what you thought, think of the book. Mike (11:24) you I think about the book that I liked it. I didn't love it, but one of the things that I really found interesting was that this is a story that I had not really heard. Like I knew that George Washington had problems with his teeth, but I did not know to the extent of what it was. David (11:58) Yes. Mike (12:04) So there was one line in the poem that I really didn't like, you read a book and sometimes you're like, wait, you missed a word because it doesn't fit the pattern that you're writing with. Yes, it can be, but David (12:18) Yes, that's a trap of poetry. Or can be. Mike (12:25) I like when it follows the rules. If you're going to follow the rules, not do it on one. just felt it felt weird. So yeah. it was, and I don't remember what page it is because again, no page numbers, but, it's a page with a cannon and I think he's leaning against it. And he says, I think I am dying. David (12:29) Mm-hmm. Try the jarring. Okay. Mike (12:47) So something, my mouth hurts and I think I'm dying. the way, David (12:51) founder. Okay, I shall read it for you. Are Yet bravely George led forth his men, coat and pigtail flying. While cannons boomed, he held his jaw and groaned, I think I'm dying. Mike (12:54) you So I think it should be, I think that I am dying. Yeah, that's the of the book that I have. David (13:12) Really? Well, if that's the only criticism you have, then I think you're giving it at least one thumbs up. Mike (13:22) My other, it's not a criticism. It's ⁓ one thing that I thought was super funny. somewhere he says, I'm too fliss. David (13:31) Yes! I'm Toofless. Yes, that was awesome. I love that too. I wrote that down. I'm Toofless with an F. I'm Toofless. I love it. Now I would have spelled it T-O-O-F-L-E-F-F. I'm Toofliff. But they spelled it Toofless. Mike (13:33) And I thought that was hilarious. I'm toothless. Yes. Tooth lift. Yeah. Hmm. Again, there's another one. Thank you. Now we found two criticisms. Sississisms. Yes. David (13:57) why you're welcome. And only two. Now, one of the things I loved, and actually I did write a note, and it's funny. So early in the book, so this covers George's entire history of tooth issues. And like you, I had no idea. first of all, what's the legend? What were his teeth made Right, is that true? Mike (14:16) would. No. David (14:19) Correct. He never had wooden teeth. It goes right up there with that cherry tree. He never chopped down that cherry tree and he never had wooden teeth. ⁓ And we'll get to that later early on, there's the picture where, already lost a tooth or two and involved one of his many dentists. It's like the drummers in Spinal Tap. Mike (14:20) He never had wooden teeth. Yep. Absolutely. yes. David (14:41) They keep mysteriously dying or exploding or... Mike (14:41) I know every, every time I read something, I'm like, it's this dentist. Wait, which dentist? Now it's that wait, but where'd the guy go from the. Yeah. David (14:47) Yes. Yeah. I have spreadsheets, have dry erase, multiple colors. I couldn't keep track. But early on it says, all that night. That's awesome. I love it. It's the spread where he's in bed, the page where he's in bed. All that night, George tossed and moaned. Another tooth was sore. And it's a picture of George and Martha in bed. Mike (14:56) Yeah, only dentists in the building. David (15:15) And she's sleeping soundly with a smile on her face and he's lying in bed, arm on the floor, staring up at ceiling and not asleep. And also the palette, it's almost entirely gray. It's the neat portrayal of darkness and night. But that also reveals something I didn't notice until further into the book. On almost every page, the facial expressions on everyone really tell you what's going on. Because on this one, Mike (15:28) Yeah. David (15:45) Martha's asleep. She has that kind of soft sleep smile on her mouth. And George has these giant wide eyes like, I cannot sleep. Mike (15:54) like giant cartoon eyes. David (15:56) exactly. And there's another page where that happens, and at first I'm like, wait a second, what's going on? The Valley Forge one, you know, when they cross the Delaware? Everybody's smiling, except George. And I know why George isn't smiling, his teeth hurt. But why are they all smiling? Crossing the Delaware, it was cold, I wouldn't be smiling. But there's, exactly. No, but they're smiling because, it's dark. Mike (16:03) Yeah. Right. and the middle of the night. And they can't see. Yeah. David (16:22) No, but they're smiling because their teeth are fine, things are good, if they need to chatter, they have what they need. So it was just really fun how it especially with George leaning against the cannon, the one you mentioned, he's like, arrr, my teeth. I mean, it's just fun. The art is really good in terms of portrait. He was, he was trying anything to get those teeth repaired. So, exactly. So anyway, the reason why I love the book so much is because... Mike (16:34) Yeah. I didn't know George Washington was a pirate. Arrrr, my teeth! David (16:49) poems can be fun, the writing is fun, but the art is really super fun. And I could just imagine the illustrator, would be Brock pictures by. Oh, that's funny. Mike (16:59) Lee? Thanks. Literally that just, cause I read it before and that did not come to me. just right now. I was like, wow, rock-o-lee. David (17:09) Mm-hmm. That came to you spontaneous. Lee, Well, so what I also, I didn't do research on this. I don't think you did, but it's actually written by Deborah Chandra, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, and Madeline Kimora. So two people wrote it, and then Brock Cole illustrated it, or do the pictures. Mike (17:18) spontaneously. It is pretty funny. David (17:38) Anyway, So I'm, go ahead. Mike (17:39) Yeah. I was just going to say, I agree. I think the art is really interesting. It's does give you something to, to really look at a lot. definitely a book not reading to, you know, toddlers, but you know, as they get a little bit older and they're able to read a little bit, maybe this is a great one for that. But the other part about. the book that I did love was just learning like this history. Like how interesting that he had so many teeth troubles and lost eventually, spoiler alert, lost all of his teeth, every single one. it talks about how he wouldn't smile. David (18:21) Every single one. Mike (18:28) think there was some pages at the end that talk about like more of the history. ⁓ Yeah. yeah. And that's what it was. Of his teeth. Yeah. And that's where, that's where like all of those dentists came in. Man, did another one self implode? David (18:32) Yeah, the timeline. It gives the timeline of his life. And more importantly, of his teeth. Yeah, I loved it. Exactly. ⁓ Well, and even during the book, as we said earlier, wait, was that the dentist's name? I guess I'm bad with names. I don't remember being, yeah, it's all over the book, but it's also explained in the timeline. It's almost like, know, surveyor in the French and Indian War dentist, revolutionary war new dentist, president new dentist. Mike (18:56) ⁓ Yeah. Yeah. did find it interesting that the last set of teeth that he had made, I believe it was the last set. He actually, at least this is what it made it sound like, and I didn't get a chance to verify this, but they made it sound like it was his idea to use the plaster of Paris. David (19:24) Well, yes, you're right. And not only, but not only his idea, he actually did a lot of the work. Did you catch that? In Mike (19:25) for the mold for his mouth. Yeah, yeah, that he was was making the springs. David (19:35) Yes, and 1783 he makes his own model with the plaster use to make the teeth. And that was early. I mean, that was after the Revolutionary War and well before he became president. So a great question, Mike. 1789 he became president. Yes. Mike (19:40) Yeah. What year did he become president? 1789. David (19:57) And inauguration was later, it was in March of that year, because the election was 1788 and he was inaugurated in 1789. Mike (20:05) voted for the 15th. David (20:06) And you? Mike (20:10) and Brutus. David (20:11) Nice, from the... So yeah, there's a timeline in the back and that's what I was referring to earlier. And a couple of fun things in the timeline that are great is... He mentions Jordan Almans in 1774. I know! And he liked... Mike (20:24) Who knew that there were Jordan Allmans then? We need to do some research on Jordan Allmans. If anybody knows like a good place to get the history or a great kids book about Jordan Allmans even better, it down in the things. I can never remember. Email us. We're at dadsonbooks@gmail.com. Indeed. David (20:40) Email us. Do something. Do something. We are indeed. Another fun thing that he did is, do you remember? I wasn't watching. Mike (20:53) I was sorry, I was in my head like going, comments, that's what's below. Why can I not remember words? I'm dumb sometimes. No, that's ⁓ episode four. David (20:58) comments! We're not big words people. I'm all about illy illy illustrations. I love it. Love it. So trivia question. When did he lose his last tooth? Because we've already given away he lost all of his teeth. But do remember when he lost his last tooth? Mike (21:08) You were saying. Right. I believe he was president. don't remember. He wasn't. David (21:22) He wasn't. He wasn't. No, it was 1796. I don't think he was president anymore. Maybe he... Mike (21:27) Okay. I think he would have been. Because if he was elected in 89 and then started in March of 90. David (21:34) Do you serve two terms? No, no, he was elected in 88, started in March of 89. Mike (21:46) So then four years later would be 93 and then four years later from that would be 97. I thought it was like near the end of time as president. David (21:48) 93. Okay, you're right. He did serve. it was, the author said his last tooth is giving him trouble. Still, he hates the thought of parting with it. Mike (22:07) Yes. David (22:08) It's my last tune! Mike (22:10) It's my last real tooth! Can't I just keep one? David (22:13) Please don't go! And this is decades, because I think he lost his first tooth when he was like 18 or something like that. Mike (22:19) Yeah, yeah, I think it says at the beginning of the book, at the beginning of the poem. But yeah, he was very young. he had teeth troubles forever. So now. you have anything more? OK, go ahead. David (22:22) Yeah. Mm-hmm. His entire adult life. I do. Did you see based on records they figured out his and his family's medical bills? Mike (22:40) Yes. David (22:41) So from 1772 to 1792, over a 20 year period, the medical bills for him, his wife, family and 200 slaves. How much? Mike (22:54) $100. David (22:55) You're right. medical bill just for his teeth over the same 20 years? Mike (23:00) $1,000. David (23:03) That's insane! Mike (23:05) I bet that's why we have such high deductibles on dentistry. It's all George's fault. Another thing to blame him about. David (23:09) It's his fault. ⁓ I just realized something! But I discovered something else. Why he had so many dentists. They kept retiring. he paid them so much money they're like, I can live half labor after, see ya. teeth. I just thought this was a funny book about poems about George Washington and his teeth problems. And it was. Mike (23:15) What? It's so true. I don't need to work anymore. I'm out. David (23:36) but it was well documented, well researched, well told, and I learned a lot. So that was awesome. It was Mike (23:41) ⁓ I obviously knew that he lost his teeth because of the whole wooden thing. Legend. But. it's really interesting to hear about when he was losing his teeth. And part of that is because of diaries that he kept or. David (23:47) Mm-hmm. Yeah, wooden teeth thing. Which is not true! Yeah, legend. Letters that he wrote. Mm-hmm. Four count, one and a two, and hit the snare here, and the three and a four, and hit the bass. Mike (24:04) dentist kept or drummers kept. ⁓ Because they had drummers and with the fife. Exactly. So enough about the book. We're gonna move on. man, go on. Hurry up. David (24:19) No wait, I have one more thing. I have one more thing. I'm so sorry. It was one more thing about the book. The problem is I forgot what I was gonna say yes, So at one point, he needs myrrh. And he uses myrrh. Did you catch that? Okay. This is probably the first known mention of myrrh since the Three Kings. Mike (24:35) Uh-huh. I did not. Right. David (24:44) No more kings. I don't know. I just, whenever a book mentions him, okay, we're done talking. Mike (24:52) I'm in admiration of your thoughts there. So we're moving on. ⁓ David (24:59) ⁓ Hey, no more kings. Are you ready? Can we move on? Mike (25:04) We can move on. David (25:06) ⁓ I am so sorry. Are you okay? Mike (25:06) Whoa. That's a big splash. Sorry Lucy. David (25:11) Just kidding, there's there's nobody here. Mike (25:12) There's no one there. So the first thing I want to say before we get to Dan Gutman's dad joke Monday is yes, I did actually do research because this actually made me think about, about the president and a little bit about him. So I started reading some things while looking for a joke. I did come across interesting father died in 1743 George was 11 years old. So his family had very little money for his formal education, which I guess back then you had to pay all of your teachers directly, probably. I don't know. I didn't look up that part. David (25:47) Yeah. Mm-hmm. ⁓ Mike (26:01) So he was actually finished with formal school when he was 15. And a lot of what he learned, he taught himself through his life by doing what? Reading. And he did that to become a better soldier, farmer, and president. David (26:17) reading done Nice. Mike (26:26) One of the things about our podcast is getting people to read and look at that. George Washington, big reader. Good job, George. Way to go, George. David (26:32) Yes! Big reader, huge. Way to go, George. And just to mention more than one president on President's Day, Abraham Lincoln, of course, was famed for have been reading in his log cabin a lot. So reading is good. Yay. Yes, it is. Gives you strong teeth. Mike (26:46) Yes. Yes, it is. It's really good for you. Yeah. chief. David (26:56) Sorry, too soon? yeah. Nice. Mike (26:58) Too soon? All right, you have a joke for Dan Gutman's Dad Joke Monday. David (27:06) I look at successful people like you and I want to do what they do. So like you, I didn't prepare. I just opened the book and found one right now, but I love it. Are you ready? How many apples grow on a tree? Mike (27:16) Awesome. I'm ready. All of them? Seriously, that's the answer. David (27:31) Verbatim. Like, you know, take the punchline, Mike. See if I care. Mike (27:39) My bad. I guess I've been telling dad jokes for too long. David (27:44) That's a first. I don't think any of us has ever like answered the question correctly. Mike (27:48) no, that is a first. Good job. David (27:50) Yeah, yeah, good job to who? I'm not bitter. I'm not randomly throwing stuff. Mike (27:53) Me. That is a lot. That's a big like you've got there to still be splashing that loud. David (28:02) Okay. ⁓ Mike (28:04) So I have a whole ton of bad, bad jokes. I'm gonna just go through them very quickly and you will say yes or no, you know the answer and then I will answer it or you will answer it, okay? Why did George Washington have trouble sleeping? David (28:09) wow. ⁓ Okay, I don't know. Mike (28:24) because he couldn't lie. What do you call George Washington's false teeth? David (28:28) I don't know, President-in-Chance? I did it! I said it! Did you hear it? Nice! Mike (28:29) Presidenters. Sweet, what would you get if you crossed the first US president with an animated character? David (28:37) George Rabbit. Mike (28:38) George Washington. And the final one, What's the difference between a duck and George Washington? David (28:40) Nice. Huh. I don't know. Mike (28:49) One has a bill on his face. other has a face on a bill. David (28:51) other has his bell. That's awesome! Mike (28:54) Bill! It all comes back. David (28:57) Full circle. Circle. Fill. Circle. Mike (28:58) Full circle, full circle, full circle. I can't even talk. And then I found some interesting stories this was actually a story Abraham Lincoln would tell. Ethan Allen, who I would have to look up in history, but I know that he's not just a furniture maker. Return to England after the war. David (29:17) So much more. Mike (29:20) And the British made fun of him. ⁓ One day, they put a picture of George Washington in the outhouse. The British asked him about it because he never said anything. And Alan said it was very appropriate place for an Englishman to hang a picture of Washington, because nothing will make an Englishman poop as quickly sight of George Washington. David (29:22) You Did they scare the poop? Mike (29:47) Yes. The poop out of them. So there are a lot of interesting stories. And when I was looking for a George Washington joke, I came across a lot of stories about George Washington and his humor. So it's actually kind of funny that we're, telling jokes about George Washington in a lot of his letters and diary entries. ⁓ he was actually very funny. in his writing, which of course, people have a sense of humor, but we don't think about the first president of our United Nation being a funny guy. but he was. Yeah. David (30:18) Wow, who knew? and the fact that he was, that makes me very happy that one of our founding fathers, our first president, was funny, who knew? Mike (30:37) He probably took improv on his off days, you know, when he wasn't generaling. David (30:39) Oh, of course you did. Oh yeah, yeah, totally. Or forced surveying or presidenturing. Choose your own presidential. Mike (30:46) Yes, exactly. David (30:52) on that note. And scene. And podcast. Mike (30:54) ⁓ and Happy reading. David (31:01) ⁓ Happy reading everybody. Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching. See you next time. Mike (31:05) Make comments. Bye.