[Music] The Noon Hour of Madness and Mayhem, the podcast.
Well, yesterday's Noon Hour was quite a lot of fun, with all the different songs we created with Suno.
Mm-hmm.
It's crazy how much better it's gotten. It's available on demand, by the way. That whole episode's available on demand wherever you get your podcasts.
Yeah, good stuff, good stuff. I enjoyed it, Peaches. I really did.
Well, now we're here to talk about good old-fashioned corporate radio, Victor.
Ugh.
You wanna talk about this?
Uh, [sighs] I guess.
This entire morning I've been, uh, doing what you do and chiming in on, uh, Facebook comment sections.
Yeah, I had to take a break from that 'cause, uh, I- I've been getting too frustrated with stupid people. Uh, no offense if I've been discussing things with you. Um, I might not be calling you stupid, but, uh-
But if the shoe fits, wear it.
I- I get in discussions about all kinds of things. One of the recent ones was c- was, uh, Christmas music with radio people, and there was a lot of stupid in that thread.
I- I chimed in on that thread too, because the one dude is like, "Uh, too bad you're wrong."
[laughs] Yeah, "Too bad you're wrong." Oh, great, great comeback, buddy. Yeah, wa- way to back it up with some data. Way to back it up with some research.
Well, he went on this-
Yeah
... whole tangent about how like, oh no, that song, Linus and Lucy that we're referring to in the post, like, you said Linus and Lucy is not a Christmas song.
Yeah, it's not.
And this guy was so adamant about how like it became big with the Charlie Brow- Brown Christmas movie, but it wasn't featured... Oh, it wasn't meant for that movie. It was just on an album, then got m- then got put on the, uh, Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown, and then The Charlie Brown Christmas.
Yeah, it's on every single thing relating to The Peanuts, because it's The Peanuts theme. It's not a Christmas song. Now that would be like... I don't know. I'm trying to think of an example. Ugh.
Well, Harry Potter is not necessarily a Christmas movie, even though there's Christmas in the movie.
Yeah, the Harry Potter theme, it's now a Christmas song.
Right.
The Die Hard theme is now a Christmas song.
I did see somebody post that Die Hard was in the holiday section on Disney+.
Well, it should be. It's a Christmas movie.
I haven't seen it.
It's Chris- You haven't seen Die Hard? It's a classic, man. It's fun.
I just said that. I haven't seen it.
You ne-
Why, why are you asking that stupid question?
You're missing out on s- You, you been watching all these dumb movies with your, your girlfriend. You're like-
Back to the Future Part I and II, those are dumb movies?
You told me you were going through like the worst movies of all time or something.
No.
That was, I swear, what you said. You were watching a dumb movie collection. Back to the Future is a classic. It's great.
We just finished Part II last night. We'll move onto Part III tomorrow. We'll be done.
All right. Part III, uh, you know, wraps up the trilogy quite nicely, I'd say.
I guess they were-
Good stuff
... showing it in IMAX theaters?
Oh, that woulda been cool to see.
Yeah.
I've seen those movies so many times though that, uh, I don't think I'd go to the theater.
Uh, I was watching some LA radio show complain. Actually, the LA radio show I'm talking about is The Woody Show. They're gonna tie into what we're about to talk about with this whole radio thing.
All right.
But, uh-
The good old Woody Show, you know, just stabbing your friends in the back.
Woody was complaining about, uh, what's... How like people were buying the DeLorean popcorn bucket for 50 bucks, and then during the movie people were com- clapping along and, you know, s- yelling things out loud.
Okay, Woody, don't ever go see The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Right. [laughs]
Geez, dude, settle down. [laughs]
But, uh, The Woody Show, the reason why I also bring them up is because 105.7 The Point is one of the biggest alternative stations in the country. It's in St. Louis, uh, Missouri.
Yeah, and, uh, one of the first stations that played Sleep Token, as, as a little factoid.
Well, they also played the radio edit. L- let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
[laughs] All right. But at least they gave 'em the time of day, and that was before the new album, so I, I, I gotta give 'em props for that. But now, they're on my crap list and they're, they're just another garbage sta- It's probably upper management. Maybe it's not the program director.
Maybe it's, uh, Hubbard.
Yeah, Hubbard Radio. And you know, I always had good impressions of Hubbard Radio.
So did other people too, because th- that's what I was gonna bring it up to you too, is that they, they got r- so for the listeners, they got rid of this DJ in the afternoons named Liv Maddox.
How long had she been there?
Three years.
Okay. I mean, not a tremendous amount of time, but it would appear based on her social media action, she was pretty popular.
Yeah, people liked her. She-
Yeah.
Uh, the thing is, is that most, uh, you know, older radio listeners are probably like, "Oh, she's so hot," you know, and are watching her for being the eye candy aspect of the station.
H- how was her show? Did you ever listen to it?
Uh, here and there. I, I really enjoyed her interviews because she was really, really good at them, I would think.
Okay.
She wasn't asking the stereotypical questions. She was more so just genuinely talking to the artists.
Well, you know that I'm not a big fan of The Woody Show, so, uh-
And I grew up listening to those guys. They used to be a really good group of people, but Woody has turned into this like, uh, power hungry, syndicated just radio maniac, and he, he makes a lot of money.
Oh, yeah.
And I, I, I think the other guys in the shows also make a good amount, but not nearly as much as him.
No, it's kind of like Howard Stern, like, you know, his co-hosts.
But Robin still makes too much money for how little she does and how terrible she is.
Yeah, but she was there like from the beginning.
I know, but she was lucky, right place, right time type of person.
Yeah, but they also created that dynamic of the, uh, the man and the woman doing a radio show together.
I'm shocked that she-
Yeah, they-
... allowed all of that stuff to happen too.
Yeah.
Like, she allowed Howard just to do what he did. [laughs]
Exactly. So they-
Yeah.
The reason you hear these radio shows with men and women, i- it's all attributed to Howard Stern.
Yeah.
So-
But him and Robin got along. Most, most of those forced guy-girl combos, they're not getting along behind the scenes.
Well, no, and they, they, they're trying to like cop... Uh, well, now they've shifted it. They're not really trying to copy what Howard did, but in the beginning that's what they were trying to do is, "Oh, this is a new thing. We can copy it and, uh, we'll do great." But you have to have that-... they had a connection, Howard and Robin.
But-
For, for, for whatever reason, they had this weird connection and it worked really well. And, uh, so they, they were innovators.
But-
But radio hates innovators.
But now with the modern radio thing, it's like, okay, you, you for the morning show you want a group of people. You wanna have the main guy who's the host, you wanna have the quirky sidekick, you wanna have the eye candy girl who basically runs the whole social media because she'll be catching the dude's eyes, giving them likes and comments and all of that sort of thing. I- it's how it usually goes.
Yeah, I think you don't need more than three people. I think three should be maximum. That way you bring in a guest, you've got, you know, the, the host running the board who keeps things running straight. The other two guys can be funny, and you've got your, your guest. You know, when you... How many people are on The Woody Show?
There's Woody, Menace, Sea Bass, Greg, Sam, Gina, Morgan. And then the other studio there's Bort, Tyler.
Are you kidding me?
And there's a guy... Uh, there's another dude. So there's about 10 people.
No wonder it always sounds like they're barreling over the top of each other and you can't understand what's going on. That is about seven too many people. All right, Woody, I know you like firing your staff-
[laughs]
... so why don't you get rid of seven of those people. I hate to, you know, call for radio people to be fired, but that's too many people. You don't need more than three.
I, I predict the show is not gonna go on for much longer.
Uh, y- really?
Because W-
They're syndicated everywhere.
... W- Woody said he's gonna retire at 50. He's about 48 now.
Yeah. I'll believe it when I see it.
But also-
People make money.
People on their Reddit, and also all over their socials, are really hating the show now because of the whole Ravey thing.
Well-
But also, I, I'm very glad to see that people are, are... The o- o- overall point of this break was to talk about Liv being laid off, fired because of, you know, budget cuts, quote unquote.
Budget cuts, yeah.
But they decided to bring The Woody Show in the afternoons on 105.7 The Point.
Yeah, just replace it. You know, n- nobody wants to hear alternative music on the alternative station with a host from the local area talking to you about what's happening in St. Louis and the music scene. Nobody wants to hear that. They wanna hear Woody babble. That's what they wanna hear, and then everybody else barrel over the top of each other.
And it's from 2:00 PM to 6:00 PM, and it's a morning show-
Mm-hmm
... being shifted to the afternoons. And the big theme that The Point's trying to do is say, "Oh, Rizzuto..." Who's the morning show host on The Point, "... and Woody are back together again," which they're not really back together. Rizzuto is doing his own thing with his own group of too many people, and then in the afternoons you get the pre-recorded Woody show that happened I don't know how many hours earlier, 'cause, you know, St. Louis is also way ahead of, uh, P- uh, Southern California.
And what's funny is when you shift a morning show to afternoon, there could be, like, major news that happens during the day, and you're, you're just gonna have the afternoon show not acknowledging it whatsoever. Like, imagine if a major terrorist attack happened. You know? Think back to... I mean, you might not remember 'cause you were li- a little baby.
I was five.
You were five when 9/11 happened. Uh, The Woody Show would be just going on, babbling [laughs] in the afternoon about who knows what crap from the morning.
Oh, they did a game called, uh, Guess Whose Bra It Is. Could you imagine-
[sighs]
... some major building, you know, falls down because of a terrorist attack. You turn on 105.7 The Point, "All right, whose bra am I feeling right now?"
Oh, my gosh.
"This has to be Gina's. It's bigger than everybody else's."
Are they... That's what they're really doing to their coworkers?
I... They had Greg blindfolded doing that, yeah.
Wow. Wow. What, what, what is it, 1980 again?
Well, they did Guess Whose Gas as well, Victor. Come on, you had to basically fart onto your phone, send the recording to Woody, Woody would play it on the air. And then somebody, uh, who listens to the show calls in and says, "Oh, I believe that's Morgan's fart."
Okay.
Err, you're wrong.
I mean, guess that fart is better than... I don't know. I would feel like a creep-
Well, here's another thing-
... feeling up the female staff's bras.
Here's another one that they did recently.
Like, th- that's weird.
They had Morgan, um, c- no Bort from the show captured a cockroach that was loose because they did this, uh, this, uh, glory something challenge. I can't say the full name of it-
Okay. [laughs]
... but there was a cockroach involved with that. And one of the cockroaches got loosed, loose. Well, Bort got the cockroach, put it in a cup, taped it shut, and then they, uh... Woody said, "Hey, Morgan, I'll pay you $1,000 if you take the cockroach out and you kiss it on the lips." You know how many diseases roaches can have?
That's disgusting. And it-
And also, this is 1990s radio at its peak.
It, it is.
[laughs]
Like, is this Fear Factor?
Yeah.
Like, I, I don't know. It just seems like weird radio to me, but what do I know? They're getting syndicated nationwide.
Also ge-
They must be doing pretty well.
They're getting pushed by iHeart, and in the beginning, they had the greatest ratings for anything alternative.
Yeah.
So, th- that, that's what happened. Well, now, um, they've been on the air for so long. And Woody did that whole thing where he got rid of Ravey and brought in Gina. Allegedly, he brought in Gina, who's more appealing to look at.
Yeah. [laughs]
That's, that's the whole legal issue they're going through right now.
There is that lawsuit going on.
Yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, we s- w- we wanna make sure we throw allegedly in there.
Yes.
But, uh, y- uh, it's, it's just so weird to me that in a market as big as St. Louis, and at a station that I believe The Point does pretty well, um-
The, The Point, I think does. I think it was supposed to be one of the more respected stations 'cause they-
Yeah
... play a whole bunch of stuff. And the one thing that kinda irritated me, I wasn't gonna bring this up on the noon hour, this whole subject, but then I went onto Reddit. Somebody posted an R/woodyshow, "The Woody Show expands to multiple dayparts and formats." And then they put in quotations from the executives at the station, "Things change. Content is content."
[groans]
I hate that.... I, I'm old-
Yeah
... radio executives. Well, I didn't leave an explicit comment on the-
[laughs] Yeah
... on The Point's Facebook page.
Good. Good.
And, uh, I'm kind of starting to speak out against these types of things. The stuff that I'm really passionate about. Because these old radio boomers, they have to go.
Yeah.
They, they're really, they're really killing it. Literally killing it. And they just suck.
Yeah, these were terrible.
Yeah. The- these radio executives just fired a young person in the business to let some old-timer come in and do a syndicated thing and make more money for himself.
And what really sucks is, there's a good chance she might just be done with the business now.
Yeah.
'Cause at, I, I, I know so many rock people that are gone now. I mean, even Weasley Radio, Beesley, fired 30-year legendary programmer, Teri Carr. She's beloved in the active rock radio business. She's moved on. She's doing like voice work and like-
Good for her
... a podcast kind of thing. She's done with the biz.
30 years is a long career. Good for her.
And she's a legend, and everybody loves her. And it was just budget cuts. They don't care about the employees. I mean, I'm really glad we work for a locally owned company. I have never seen a budget cut thing happen around here.
Right.
You know?
No matter how bad it gets, we're usually okay.
Yeah. You know, you gotta do something, you know? And I don't even know the reasons, but if somebody's let go around here, there's a reason. Not just, "Hey, we're trying to be cheap, and we'll go ahead and replace them with The Woody Show."
Right. [laughs]
I mean, shame on you, The Point. I would guess it's upper level management, but again, I, I've always heard good things about Hubbard, and now I gotta add 'em to the list. You know, I would never work for Beesley. I'd never work for Audacy. I'd certainly never work for iHeart. And I mean, I, I think if I got done here, you know, if I got the boot, I'd probably be done too. I'd be calling up, I don't know, Teton Toyota, "You guys need a salesman?"
Oh, boy. Remember-
Yeah
... never to buy a car from you. [laughs]
[laughs] Come on down. Victor Wilt, I'm here to sling you a brand new Tundra. 'Cause radio's just such a ... It's just such a shady business.
It really is.
I would be so nervous. 'Cause you, you have to move to in a whole other city to get a job. I, I just couldn't imagine trying to go work for another company in another city. 'Cause look what they did to her at three years. Done.
Well, my friend Erica, she was in the mornings in Salt Lake City, 97.1 ZHT.
It was there-
After 13 months, they just said, "Hey, you know what? We're just gonna lay you off. Sorry." And then she end up, um, she now works for a radio show in Denver, but she started in LA, San Diego, Salt Lake for over a year, and then now finally Denver.
Yeah, and what's ZHT? Is that, uh, Cumulus?
Um, let me check actually.
Another company I wouldn't wanna work for. I saw them, uh, blow out their, uh, uh ... but many people at Cumulus in Salt Lake that they've just blown out. Yeah.
It's iHeart, actually.
iHeart. No, big surprise.
Yeah.
The worst company in radio. I, I could go on all day about how terrible iHeart is. If you use the iHeart radio app, delete it. They are a scourge. They don't deserve the numbers. Um, screw them. [laughs] I almost said something else.
Oh, very nice. Would had to bleep you out.
Yes. [instrumental music plays]
All right, Victor, let's talk about merch. Considering we just talked about, uh, how bad radio is for the first 15 minutes, let's go on for another 15 talking about bands with the most beautiful/most disappointing merch. And it's been, uh, talked about for a long time that Pantera has some of the worst merch you could ever see.
Really?
Them and Asking Alexandria.
[laughs] I was wearing an Asking Alexandria shirt on Halloween.
I see right here, "Asking Alexandria has consistently bad merch," with 20 upvotes. "It matches how bad the music is." Oh!
Oh.
Somebody wrote.
All right, I'm trying to think of ugly merch. One of the worst pieces of merch I ever got was, uh, from the band The Hu, but I don't think it was their fault. It was like a bad print. You remember that shirt? I think I showed it to you.
The Hu.
And the print was like off.
Oh, not Boris the spider. You're talking about Wolf Totem.
I'm talking about ... Yes, the H-U, Hu.
Yeah.
And, you know, I don't know, any shirts that have the picture of the band on 'em, I don't think look good.
I do like AC/DC, when they put Angus in like, uh, uh, in like what, what, what venue they're gonna be at.
Uh-
Like when I went, when I went and saw AC/DC at the, uh, Dodger Stadium in 2016, they had Angus with his like big lips pointed out, and he has a Dodgers uniform on, and it looks cool. I, I-
Maybe if it's somebody legendary like that. Like, okay, I could see wearing a Sabbath shirt or an Ozzy shirt.
You have Ozzy on the toilet? [laughs]
The, the Beatles ... Y- yeah, the Beatles shirts maybe. But like, if you're just a new up and coming band, like I, I know I got a From Ashes To New shirt too that I gave away 'cause I was like, "Dude, these guys are like half my age."
[laughs]
"And I'm not gonna wear a shirt with a bunch of young dudes on it. It just feels weird."
But then, yeah, I get it. No, I totally understand that. 'Cause like, I, I've gotten to the age now where NBA players are younger than me.
Yeah.
And it's weird to wear their jersey-
[laughs]
... as in a guy older than them.
See, a jersey, at least it just has their name. It doesn't have their face.
But it's like I idolize this dude type thing.
Like, even, like, I have a, a Poppy shirt that has like a small Poppy on it, and like the one that has her eyes. Even that one's like-
You gotta grow half your age on your shirt
Yeah, yeah.
... Victor, even that one's a little bit awkward. What am I wearing right now? I got Dethklok. That's got a cartoon band. Okay, I've got an Ice Nine Kills that has Patrick Bateman from, uh, American Psycho on it.
You're wearing a dude who's older than you.
Yeah.
Or Christian Bale's older than you.
Christian Bale. That's, that's his name. Is it Patrick Bateman in the sh- the movie? That right?
American Psycho?
Yeah.
Okay, but Christian Bale, and he's, you know, very well known for a particular phrase that you, you might have handy.I, I, I don't know if you have it handy, but you know, I feel good wearing a shirt with him on it.
You're talking about-
Because, uh-
Oh, good for you!
[laughs] That's right.
[laughs] His big meltdown on set. What a great classic.
And the... And it's also a famous horror movie picture. So like, I'd wear a Jack Nicholson The Shining shirt. Um, but I don't know, just when you have the full band, I guess I did buy a Vended shirt at the, uh-
[laughs]
... Mudvayne show. And I mainly bought it 'cause it has bad language on the back, and it was the cheapest piec- piece of merch-
[laughs]
... in the entire venue.
I can't wear a shirt that has any terrible word on it, just because I couldn't wear that most of the time. Like, I can't go out into Ralphs... Or not Ralphs, we don't have a Ralphs around here. But I can't go out into like Winco, and it says like, "One, two, bleep you on the back."
See, I'm starting to lose my patience with all of the world, so I'm like-
It's like those people that wear those stupid, like, Second Amendment shirts. It's like, "Dude, you're in a public library."
[laughs]
Wh- why are you wearing a gun- a shirt [laughs] with a gun on it?
[laughs] Yeah, I... I don't know. I, I felt like I should give Vended a little bit of support. I might have had a few beers in me, too, and that leads to bad merch decisions from time to time.
Sure, yeah.
But, uh, even the Vended shirt, I'm like, "Eh, why am I wearing this? It has four young dudes on it." But it... The, the bad words on the back kinda make up for it, and it kinda looks like a black metal shirt.
You shou- [laughs] you should wear a shirt with Iggy Pop on it and all of, all of his glory, just shirtless and weird looking.
Yeah. All skinny.
Yeah. What's up-
Make a shirtless Jade Davis shirt.
[laughs]
Imagine if Death in December became huge, and he was like the face of all their merch [laughs].
Now, ju- that's who Jade should have been for Halloween, Iggy Pop. That would have been pretty funny.
He would have been the best as Vessel.
He would have.
He would have made a great, great vessel.
Absolutely.
Uh, somebody ha- did say that, "I feel like Sleep Token has gone a little overboard with their endless stream of limited edition double vinyl sets and T-shirts, and now they're even selling duvet sets." Well, I wouldn't say-
Duvet sets?
... I wouldn't say that's them. It's more so their, their team, and also Hot Topic, I feel like, is producing all of those T-shirts. Do... Is Top-
I, I-
Is Hot Topic producing those shirts?
... think the band has to s- has to-
'Cause-
... sign off on all that stuff.
They're taking advantage of those people, those like Book Tok listeners that will buy something dumb like that and wear it.
Dude, if I was them, I would sell every useless product ever.
Apologies.
I'd be like Gene Simmons.
Yeah.
Yeah. I'd be slinging caskets, I don't care. You know, give me that money.
Bury your, or, uh, cremate your, uh, your dad in the, uh, Sleep Token urn.
The Sleep Token urn-
Call it-
Sure
... The Vessel.
The Vessel.
[laughs]
Put your dad in The Vessel.
[laughs]
Wro- signed by Vessel. Uh, I'm surprised Sleep Token isn't selling signed merch. That's, that's the one thing that kinda blows my mind. They could make a lot of money. With how much their fans would pay for a concert ticket, why don't they... Like, Ghost, even before people figured out who was in the band, they would sign their stuff with symbols, you know? And you, you could make some money selling signed merch. Ghost sold some very unique pieces of merch that were signed, one of which I will not describe on air. But, uh, they're collector's items now [laughs]. You may know what I'm talking about, Peaches, but I won't elaborate. Um-
Sorry, I'm not really paying attention. I was [laughs] going down this thread. Uh, somebody said Johnny Booth has some of the worst merch they've ever seen, and there was multiple people saying that, so.
Huh. I don't know if I've seen much of their merch, but, um... I'm trying to think of some of the worst merch I've seen. I, I'm, I'm not super picky when it comes to merch. Like, I, I... To me, if I really like the band... I mean, I've seen bad designs from some bands, but then they'll have others that look good, so. I don't-
I, I do... I did see a meme somewhere basically saying that, uh, whoever is making those shirts available at Walmart that have Dolly Parton, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube all on them, g- like, lay off, dude [laughs].
[laughs]
There's, there's too many of those shirts around [laughs].
I know, but, uh, y- those artists have to be signing off on that. They're like, "Oh, put my shirt in Walmart? Heck yeah."
Oh, yeah, the... These Johnny Booth shirts aren't all that bad. Like, I would say Panteras are much worse, but it's not the greatest.
Yeah, I mean, I remember some pretty tacky Pantera shirts from back in the day. You know, Slayer had some, uh, pretty cool shirts. Cannibal Corpse usually has great shirts.
Cannibal Corpse is pretty funny.
Yeah, yeah. I'm... I'm gonna have to really think on this one, and maybe do it-
[upbeat music]
... on another break, Peaches.
It's the noon hour of madness and mayhem. I am Peaches.
I'm Victor Wilt, and I'm gonna make at least one person in the building mad, and I guarantee I'm gonna make some of our listeners mad. Our previous break, we were talking about ugly band merch, and we went through a variety of bands and like, "Okay, yeah, some of their stuff's tacky." And it reminded me of some tacky clothing that I've seen recently. And I really hate to throw, uh, particular groups of people under the bus-
If you don't agree with my statement, pack... I'll help you pack a bag.
No, uh-
Oh
... they, they're not political shirts, nothing like that, no slogans. I wanna talk about the shirts that people in bowling and dart leagues wear. I'm sorry, Justin, they're colorful and fun, but man, I, I went to this dart tournament for a little bit over the weekend, where there were like th- thousands of these guys rolling around. And I'm sorry to anybody who's in a dart league, you're cool.
Oh, come on, imagine a team of dart throwers. That's almost as bad as a motorcycle club.
[laughs]
Right [laughs]?
Motorcycle clubs are great. All right, they dress cool. All right, they dress-
Sure
... pretty much metal.
Yeah.
Now-
It's fun to stay at the Y [laughs].
N- Peaches, you're gonna get yourself in trouble. Motorcycle clubs, you know, not to be messed with. The, the're tough. But, uh-
Who has a gun to your head [laughs]?
Peaches, I've, I've ha- I've hung out with bikers my whole life. Trust me, who, if, if I'm gonna have some fear, dart league or bikers.
Oh, obviously y-
[laughs]
... you fear the bikers.
Yeah. Bowling league or bikers?
But [laughs]-
Okay, you've seen the shirts that Justin wears. And Justin, love ya.... but those type of shiny, rainbow colored, logo plastered, like, every sponsor all over 'em shirts, and they're just so shiny.
Oh, you wanna talk about sponsors?
Oh.
The UFC gear you see- you see, like, those MMA fighters wear, like the tap out gear?
Yeah, that stuff's pretty tacky too.
On-
No offense to all of [laughs] those cage fighters out there. All right, we're getting a lot of people mad.
Okay, NASCAR. Those, those drivers.
[laughs] Okay, just as bad. All right.
I, I, I have the Wonder Bread logo on my thigh.
[laughs] I'm not gonna be able to go to a bar for months now.
[laughs]
They got the dart leagues mad. The... Well, the biker clubs, they just have their one logo. You know, they keep it real.
I was making a joke. They know how to make jokes too.
Yeah, they're, they're not covered with ads.
Right.
You're not even... Can you imagine seeing a biker club and they've got [laughs] their, you know, vests and they're just covered with ads for, like, motor oil?
Well, there's an ad for Harley maybe.
Look, I don't think that, uh, if you're in a biker club you'd even put a Harley logo on your... You know, you just have it on your bike.
I would like to know.
You know?
Get a, get a biker on the phone here.
Uh, uh, call us up, 208-535-1015. I know we got some bikers listening. But man, dude, when there, when there was a sea of dart players, and they're all [laughs] wearing these shiny ad covered shirts and the... You know, they're all covered with, like, skulls and stuff, and it's like-
You're throwing darts.
[laughs]
[laughs] You're throwing darts. Most of them are drinking water.
Okay.
[laughs] And you're like, "Come on."
W- we can talk about this on another break too.
[laughs]
I mean, bowling, is it a sport? [laughs] Is it really a sport?
I, I think it's a heavy ball and it requires aim. Um, I think bowling is more of a sport than golf.
Yeah?
'Cause golf, you're just swinging a, a pretty light stick.
I- if you can do, uh, something that a 65-year-old man can do, like if you only have a limited window to play the sport before it starts to hurt-
Yeah.
Like, that's a real sport. Like football, you can't really do it for all that long. I would suggest people not even to do it in the first place. But, you know, like basketball, that's also tough on the joints. You, you retire by the time you're, like, 40, maybe even thir-
Yeah.
like, 38. Bowling, you can do your entire life. Unless your arm falls off or something.
Yeah. I mean, you have to mo- might have to move to a lighter ball. But okay, let's talk about darts. Okay. A lot of people would argue that video games are not a sport, but they require intense concentration, hand-eye coordination, uh, lots of skill. I think that, uh, if darts are a sport, video games are definitely a sport. What does the internet say? Are darts a sport? You might be able to type faster than me, Peaches, 'cause I'm on my phone. Are darts considered-
Yes. Darts is a consid- is considered a sport due to its high level of skill, per- precision, and competitive nature, and is officially recognized by sports bodies like Sport England.
Okay.
Oh.
Then video games are definitely sports.
Well, then so is croquet and bocce ball and all those dumb lawn games.
Yeah. [laughs] Exactly.
Cornhole.
[laughs] Dude, com- you know, what- what do they call competitive Frisbee? What, what-
Ultimate Frisbee?
Ultimate Frisbee.
Yeah, there's also disc golf.
Definitely a sport. Disc golf, that's a, definitely a sport. Uh, but-
Somebody posted-
Fortnite, sport!
... in r/darts, "Do you think darts is a sport?" They asked the wrong audience 'cause of course-
Oh, dude, don't go ask r/darts.
Of course it's a sport.
[laughs]
I'm a, I'm a professional.
[laughs]
This is the top comment. "Somehow asking this in r/darts may have biased this." [laughs] But still, 1.4 thousand people did- said, "No, it's not a sport." Compared to the 3.2 thousand.
Well, you know, that, so that's a... Okay, I'm not gonna get into ratios I saw on the news today.
Oh.
But, uh... [laughs]
"Sport, an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against oth- uh, another or others for entertainment."
Okay. Uh, is throwing a dart physical exertion?
I would say those competitive eaters, like Joey Chestnut-
That's a-
Tha- that's way more of a sport compared to darts.
[laughs] Dude, the dart people have gotta be so mad at us right now.
The dart people, we start seeing them hit the window.
Yeah, tink, tink.
Is it hailing outside?
Oh my God.
Take that, Peaches! [blows]
And, you know, if they're competitive, it, it might be, you know, just walking down the road, all of a sudden, dart to the brain.
Right.
Ugh. You know, I mean, a bowling ball to the brain would be worse.
It's like they're spitting them at us, like the... [laughs]
[laughs]
Through the pole.
All I was saying was we were talking about tacky band merch. Uh, some of them, uh, bowling and dart shirts. No offense again to any of you guys, especially you, Justin, down the hall, bowling, uh, professional one. Well, he won an award recently for his bowling.
He might go into the Idaho Falls Bowling Hall of Fame, is what he told me.
Really?
Yeah, we might have a Hall of Famer here in the building.
Is he gonna get a fancy shirt made that just glimmers? [laughs]
It, it will have all the sponsors on the back of how he made it there too.
[laughs]
Like, I, I, well, he ate a meal at Carl's Jr. before the speech, so that, that logo's on the back.
[laughs]
Wrapping up the noon hour of madness and mayhem, we offended dart throwers, we offended bikers, we offended, uh, bowlers.
Hey, I didn't offend no bikers, Peaches.
Oh, you did previously.
No.
Re-, resort back to that traffic school powered by the advocates when that guy called in and then, you know, didn't even bother to hear your argument. He, I hate when people do that type of thing, they yell at you and then they quickly hang up so they don't hear your, uh, retaliation.
Well, the problem was, you know, I, I wasn't really thinking of how serious some people might take things, and we ha- we, our old management wouldn't let us say, you know, certain words on air, so we'd have these jokes about, "Here's AC/DC, 'Hex Bells,'" and, you know-
I still don't say them 'cause I haven't gotten clearance at all, I don't think, of being able to.
I'm just, you know, I'm, I'm just waiting to get yelled at. But, uh, so I made a little, you know, I used that same ongoing joke in relation to a biker club and-
Well, I called them that first.
... did you call 'em it first?
I- I called them that first, yeah.
Okay.
And, and then you decided to like, "Oh, it's Peaches said this." And then-
Yeah, and I didn't realize it was a pretty serious thing, and I was like, "Listen, it's just because our bosses don't like us-"
Who, who gave you one of those-
"... to say those words."
Who gave you one of those unwanted life lessons there? "Hey, don't mess with them," or something like that.
I do. I, like I said, I grew up around bikers, so, uh, I know they can, uh, get a little bit wild, Peaches. It's like I said, you know, dart players or biker clubs, yeah, I, I know who I'm gonna, you know, try to not offend. 'Cause one, I, I have a lot of fun hanging out with bikers. They're, they're good dudes. And dart players and bowlers. Sorry we made fun of your shirts.
Well, I can tell you, like I mentioned before, with the whole Pizza Madness thing we used to do, the animal hospital was the meanest p- was the meanest, uh, business to deliver free pizza to. When I showed up to Harley-Davidson of Grand Teton, or the, however you say the business name, they were ecstatic [laughs] about getting free pizza. One of the guys was jumping up and down.
Yeah, and I think that the, you know, again, it was kinda taken out of context, and I think the guy thought we were making fun when we were just using this stupid joke we have with, you know, our bosses not letting us say, "Hey, did you hear Chad Gray's other band? Heck yeah." You know, uh, I, I, I just think they didn't know what was going on.
You're telling me someone didn't hear you correctly and then got mad and then ignorantly yelled at you?
Yes.
Whoa.
And it happens often on the radio. But I, I think we talked it out pretty well. I think we talked it out pretty well, and all is cool.
Oh, you talked to that guy?
Uh, well, uh, I think so. I think we talked it out pretty well on the ph- Yeah, 'cause he called me back after the show.
Oh.
And I was like, "Listen, our management doesn't like us to say 'hell.'"
Whoa.
So, you know-
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
So we have this ongoing thing where any time that word comes up, we say something else, we say "heck." But, uh, it wasn't poking fun. Um, anyhow, uh, I don't know how we ended up starting off this break. I was just gonna tell people, make sure to get out and vote. Did you go vote yet, Peaches?
No, I've been here.
Okay.
I wake up and then I come here. What, what-
All right, well-
... time do I have?
... the polls are open at, uh, 'til 8:00 PM, so you make sure to get out and vote, Peaches. It's very important. I know you know where to go vote, right? You voted before?
Sure. I'll go along pretend... Yeah, sure.
What do you mean? Didn't you vote in the presidential election?
Yeah.
Then you go to that same place, [laughs] Peaches, and you vote. All right? You're registered to vote and you get out and vote for your favorite local candidates 'cause local votes, as far as the local elections turn- uh, turnout goes, it's garbage, it's terrible. Everybody votes for the president around here, even though Idaho's, you know, say in the Electoral College is basically nothing and useless. But you look at the local elections where the votes really, really matter, people just sit around farting at home doing nothing. Doing nothing. And all you gotta do is get out and vote. So if you registered in... 'Cause we had high turnout in the presidential election. Most people are registered to vote. Get over to that place that you voted-
Oh
... and vote for mayor and city council.
You know who has the worst, the worst clothing? Those bikers that take up the middle of the street. Not the motorcyclists.
Okay, I was like, "Peach as well."
Those, those, those bicycle riders that wear the, all, the whole spandex outfit.
Okay, 'cause they-
Now, that right there is something to make fun of.
You're right, Peaches, 'cause that's like, you know, you combine
a, uh, like a bowler or dart player's shirt-
[laughs]
... but you make it real tight and then you add the matching, uh, short shorts to go with it. It's, it is truly, you know-
And they, they have matching cleats, 'cause I think... Or not cleats, but they have matching shoes-
That's true
... for better grip on the pedal, right?
We wanna make sure everyone knows we're talking about bicyclists. [laughs]
Bicyclists.
Yeah.
Not bikers.
Not bikers. Bicyclists, 'cause bikers wear cool, like, leather metal stuff, they got chains, long hair. They're pretty much like me. I, I just can't afford the leather jackets, they're expensive.
I, I just, I just imagine JD in a leather jacket. That's who I imagine most bikers are gonna-
JD's got a Harley-
Yeah
... and I bet he's got a leather jacket.
And JD's one of the most lovable dudes. He's a-
Well, that-
... giant teddy bear
... that's the thing. Uh, the bikers are all really lovable too. I don't know about dart players. We might have just made some real enemies. And what about bowlers?
What if we go onto East Idaho, like, we go onto Facebook, the East Idaho Dart Committee's all of a sudden, "Peaches and Victor on K-BEAR were insulting our apparel."
[laughs] I bet-
"Look at these two-"
[laughs]
"... these fat buffoons."
Well, okay, I bet I could more likely outrun a bowler than a dart player. [laughs]
[laughs]
But, but it's, it's iffy because-
But-
... I kinda look like a bowler.
Ru- running away from a bowler is like playing Donkey Kong, you just gotta jump every so often to avoid the ball.
Now let-
'Cause they get mad at you. [laughs]
[laughs] Now maybe I should join a bowling league, because I got the physique for it, Peaches.
[laughs]
Just playing bowlers, yeah. I'm, I'm really anxious-
Why don't you try playing with no bumpers, you're gonna score higher than 200, huh?
[laughs] Hey, what's wrong with playing with the bumpers, Peaches? Come on, come on, man. The Noon Hour of Madness and Mayhem is a production of Riverbend Media Group. For more information or to contact the show, visit riverbendmediagroup.com.