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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Good morning, good morning. We talked on that

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<v Speaker 1>through good morning, good morning to you and you and.

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<v Speaker 2>You good job. Good that's everybody's favorite. Something that should be.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I should incorporate like the Bible Guys, the Bible

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<v Speaker 1>guy right, who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that'd be great.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, you are the Bible Guys. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you today and we are in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a series called what If Jesus had a podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>And today Jesus says, apart from me, you can do nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big, a big one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's a big.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna find out what he has to say about that,

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<v Speaker 2>but first we have a brand new segment. It is

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<v Speaker 2>because Ray is using all of her gray matter to

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<v Speaker 2>try to figure out how to make a compelling seconds nice. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a brilliant idea. So you like you like

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<v Speaker 2>like board games and stuff? Of course I love you

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<v Speaker 2>love like taboo, especially like word board games.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is our family thing. We we love

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<v Speaker 1>zar bag game Night what we call it. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a family in our church. Uh uh. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great family, great friends, and uh they actually

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<v Speaker 1>bought us an actual thing that was customized. It says

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<v Speaker 1>zar bag game night. Yeah yeah, and it has all

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<v Speaker 1>the all the stuff in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa super cool. Well, so today we're doing taboo, right,

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<v Speaker 2>only it's theological taboo. So that means I have to

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<v Speaker 2>describe a Bible concept of theological concept concept without using

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<v Speaker 2>forbidden words.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So there'll be forbidden words, yes, which means if

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<v Speaker 1>you're watching on video, hopefully what we can do is

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<v Speaker 1>place them on the screen right here, just knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff cannot say these okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And and I haven't thought about this yet, okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>I just looked at it a second ago, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have no idea how to do this. But you're allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to speak in sentence, so so yes, I am allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to speak in sentences. But the words that I'm forbidden

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<v Speaker 2>to say make it very difficult to speak of the

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a theological idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So listeners, race against me and see if you can

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<v Speaker 1>beat me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is a theological idea. Yep. Uh, let me see. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there's the dad, the kid, and the dove, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Trinity, Yes, and the dove, the dove.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go. I got it. So so I had

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<v Speaker 2>here's the words. I wasn't allowed to say three because Trinity,

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<v Speaker 2>three and one say that. I couldn't say God. I

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't say father, son or spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that was a tough one. Good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the dove was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go, because.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have got without that. Yeah, so you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>dad kid dove. I'm like dad kid dull.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost said holy ghosts. That is what I almost

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<v Speaker 2>said to because I could have said that.

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<v Speaker 1>One, but but no, holy was on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I couldn't say three godfather, son, spirit, Oh holy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I could have said holy ghost. Yeah, I could

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<v Speaker 2>have said the Dad, the kid, and the other one, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Which I would have known.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that's how most Christians live, is

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<v Speaker 2>the Father, the Son, and the other one. Most Christians

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<v Speaker 2>don't really spend time with the Holy Spirit. So hey,

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<v Speaker 2>well there you go. I liked that one, yes, man,

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<v Speaker 2>And and I mean we blew through that.

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<v Speaker 1>One because we're well listen, we could.

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<v Speaker 2>Expand on theological minds.

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<v Speaker 1>We could expand on it by saying this, did you

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<v Speaker 1>know I know you know this, but did all of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners know that the word trinity is actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Not in It is not in the Bible, right, The

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<v Speaker 2>concept is, yes, but not the not the word.

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<v Speaker 1>So trinity is a word that Christians created to explain

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<v Speaker 1>what the Bible says is true about God. So the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that we have a triune God, a God, one God,

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<v Speaker 1>three persons, right, and God describes himself this way and

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<v Speaker 1>so it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes people panic, go, you know, because they'll hear somebody

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<v Speaker 2>on Discovery Channel go, well, you know, early Christians didn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe in the trinity. Trinity. The word trinity is not

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<v Speaker 2>even in the Bible, right and oh, oh my goodness, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not in the Bible. Oh well, that's terrible. It must

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<v Speaker 2>not be real. Neither is the term vicarious suffering of Christ,

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<v Speaker 2>right right, correct, But that's still a true theological term,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right. So when we assign a word like the

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<v Speaker 2>vicarious suffering Christ means that Jesus died in our place.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the substitutionary death of Christ. He died in my place.

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<v Speaker 2>Vicarious means on my behalf or on the behalf of others.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fact that Jesus died on your behalf, on

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<v Speaker 2>my behalf. The theological term is the vicarious suffering of Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>Which by the way, is this Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact of the Bible is Jesus died in

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<v Speaker 2>your place. That's the fact that it's the same. The

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<v Speaker 2>term for the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit being three

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<v Speaker 2>and one is the trinity. That's not that word's not

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible. It's the theological term we use to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. But the fact of it is at jesus baptism,

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<v Speaker 2>the Father's voice spoke from heaven while Jesus was in

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<v Speaker 2>the water, and the Spirit descended upon him like a dove.

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<v Speaker 2>At creation in Genesis chapter one, God in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>God created the heavens and the earth, and then it

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<v Speaker 2>says that we find out Jesus was where he spoke.

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<v Speaker 2>And we find out in Genesis, or in John chapter one,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus was the Word, and Jesus created everything that existed.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the book of Genesis chapter one it says,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Spirit of God hovered over the deep. So literally,

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<v Speaker 2>in the first few verses of the book of Genesis,

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<v Speaker 2>you have of the Father. So the fact that the

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<v Speaker 2>word trinity does it, it's just a functional theological word

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<v Speaker 2>that we use, right, But the concepts are deeply rooted

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<v Speaker 2>in the truth of scripture. Paul believes in the Trinity.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus believes in the Trinity. Obviously, James believes in the Trinity.

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<v Speaker 2>Jude believes in the Trinity. The Gospel writers believed in

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<v Speaker 2>the trinity. Uh, it's it's deeply rooted in scripture, even

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<v Speaker 2>though the term trinity is not there. So yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you don't have to freak out about it. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact that terms not in the Bible. It's just a

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<v Speaker 2>theological word that Professor's made of so that we can explain.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just how we explain the fact that God

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<v Speaker 2>is three in one, that's right. Yeah, So hey, that

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<v Speaker 2>was really cool. Yes, good job, Chris. It's it's your

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<v Speaker 2>theological astuteness that helped you figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>That's me.

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<v Speaker 2>You said, the dad, the kid, and the dove.

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<v Speaker 1>And I bet you somebody beat me to it. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you somebody who's out there said.

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<v Speaker 2>And without me, you that have never won that game.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you also know Trinity is the name of

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<v Speaker 1>Neo's girlfriend in the Makers.

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<v Speaker 2>So without me, you could have never won that game

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<v Speaker 2>because apart from me, you can do nothing, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the thing Jesus said. Jesus also said, apart from me,

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<v Speaker 2>you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally place yourself in the position.

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<v Speaker 2>No just with this game. Yes, I know with you

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<v Speaker 2>on this show, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can do nothing without you in this game. Jeff, that

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<v Speaker 1>reds me too. Hey, that reminds me. God said the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing about him.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, that's right. So Jesus says the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Apart from me, you can do nothing. If you're new

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<v Speaker 2>to the show, We're not trying to be blasphemous. We

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<v Speaker 2>always just try to find the worst possible transitions from

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<v Speaker 2>the silly segment at the beginning into the devotional part today.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, there's no blasphemy attempt here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So in John chapter fifteen, we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>reading John fifteen one through seventeen. Jesus he says, I

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<v Speaker 2>am the true grape vine, and my father is the gardener.

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<v Speaker 2>He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn't produce fruit,

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<v Speaker 2>and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so

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<v Speaker 2>that they will produce even more fruit. You have already

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<v Speaker 2>been pruned and purified by the message I've given you.

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<v Speaker 2>Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For

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<v Speaker 2>a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from

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<v Speaker 2>the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain

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<v Speaker 2>in me. Yes, I am the vine, and you are

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<v Speaker 2>the branches. Those who remain in me and I and

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<v Speaker 2>them will produce much fruit. For apart from me, you

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<v Speaker 2>can do nothing. Anyone who does not remain in me

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<v Speaker 2>is thrown away like a useless branch in withers. Such

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<v Speaker 2>branches are gathered into a pile to be burned. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you remain in me and my words remain in you,

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<v Speaker 2>you may ask for anything you want, and it'll be granted.

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<v Speaker 2>When you produce much fruit, you are my true disciples.

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<v Speaker 2>This brings great glory to my Father. I have loved

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<v Speaker 2>you even as the Father has loved me. Remain in

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<v Speaker 2>my love. When you obey my commandments, you remain in

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<v Speaker 2>my love, just as I obey my father's commandments and

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<v Speaker 2>remain in his love. I've told you these things so

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<v Speaker 2>that you be filled with my joy. Yes, your joy

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<v Speaker 2>will overflow. This is my commandment. Love each other in

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<v Speaker 2>the same way I have loved you. There is no

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<v Speaker 2>greater love than to lay down one's life for one's friends.

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<v Speaker 2>You are my friends if you do what I command.

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<v Speaker 2>I no longer call you slaves, because a master doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>confide in his slaves. Now you are my friends. Since

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<v Speaker 2>I've told you everything the Father told me. You didn't

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<v Speaker 2>choose me. I chose you. I appointed you to go

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<v Speaker 2>and produce lasting fruit so that the Father will give

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<v Speaker 2>you whatever you ask for using my name. This is

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<v Speaker 2>my command. Love each other. Well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he covers it, cots the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so great. And you know, if you're a farmer,

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<v Speaker 1>especially man, is this illustration so deep and you understand

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<v Speaker 1>it so well. But for those of us who didn't

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<v Speaker 1>grow up you know, in agriculture, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as rich as the first century listeners, right, who would

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<v Speaker 1>have all been completely hands on with these kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The closest I got was we used to

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a student pastor with high school students

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<v Speaker 1>and middle school students. Back then, we used to have

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<v Speaker 1>a company that we would all glean off of called

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<v Speaker 1>Youth Specialties.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember you specially, Yeah, we used they were great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So Youth Specialties had all these great books for

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<v Speaker 1>youth ministries and you know, great ideas and such.

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<v Speaker 2>And they had tons of ideas of how to plan

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<v Speaker 2>and plan an event or yeah, games or engaging ways

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<v Speaker 2>to communicate tough topics stuff. Yeah, it was great.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they had this book and it was called

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<v Speaker 1>Destination Unknown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I remember, Yeah, we did destination on those.

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<v Speaker 1>So we we would do Destination Unknowns and we would

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<v Speaker 1>So we did all that in one location that we

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, here's your nine twelves and you're all these

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<v Speaker 1>and literally we saw some of the same cars we

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<v Speaker 1>And so we talked about you know, we're muff duff corrupt,

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<v Speaker 2>That is great. We should do that on a Sunday here, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it great. It's a great video, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great video, idea great and so anyway, but

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<v Speaker 1>that made a huge impact on the teenagers about, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>in the junkyard somewhere, right, So materialism is not the thing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so it was just tremendously effective. Well, I did

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<v Speaker 1>literally have this vineyard on the side of the road,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very uncommon because it's not an agricultural area.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's this lady who has this massive vineyard. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember driving by and seeing we were working out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I pulled over and I said, hey, can we

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<v Speaker 1>working all day and we're cleaning up the vineyard. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's perfect. Then I said, because it'll be perfect, it'll

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<v Speaker 1>be perfect for us to walk through and you can

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<v Speaker 1>teach us about vines and branches. She says, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so tired. And I said, can you put a price

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<v Speaker 1>on affecting the lives of sixty students guilting this lady

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<v Speaker 1>into it? And she says fine, And so sure enough, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we had these kids walk into this vineyard, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you it was one of the most effective lessons

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<v Speaker 1>because then we were able to sit there in the

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<v Speaker 2>So my wife I was out of the country. I've

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<v Speaker 2>told this story several times, but my wife buys a

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<v Speaker 2>house while I'm gone. Right, Yeah, we've been looking for

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<v Speaker 2>our house for a long time. So the backyard, you've

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<v Speaker 2>when we moved there, I had noticed that we moved

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<v Speaker 2>in December, but just before all the leaves started disappearing,

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<v Speaker 2>I had realized that there were vines growing up to

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<v Speaker 2>of trees that were losing, that were dying the things.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got back in the woods and I realized

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<v Speaker 2>somebody had planted or some somehow there were these grape

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<v Speaker 2>vines that were climbing up to the top. And then

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<v Speaker 2>what happens is, you know, the vine is usually you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple inches around, yeah, a few inches around, but

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<v Speaker 2>and then they put out these huge, like one square

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<v Speaker 2>will be covering, and they wind up killing the tree

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<v Speaker 2>below that came at the sunlight the nets, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I realized, man, I'm about ready to lose most of

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<v Speaker 2>this forest behind me if I keep letting these grape

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<v Speaker 2>leaves go. And so at first, all I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>was cutting the cutting the branches and pulling them out

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<v Speaker 2>of my trees. And that's what I was trying to do.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was so hard, and I was exhausted, and

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<v Speaker 2>where the where the vine is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, cut the vine and then the branches the dost.

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<v Speaker 2>So it turns out there were nine vines, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was thousands of branches, right, there were only nine, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I went and cut those. So some of them

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to get out of the tree. But

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<v Speaker 2>right now, if you go there, all of them are dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though I got a bunch of them out. We

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<v Speaker 2>filled an entire dumpster with them. But all of them

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<v Speaker 2>have died now because I cut off the vine. So

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<v Speaker 2>all the branches are dead now and I got it

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<v Speaker 2>out of the tree. Now they're all brittle and I

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<v Speaker 2>can just pull them out. It's a lot easier all

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<v Speaker 2>than last year when they were all still a lot

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<v Speaker 2>And so Jesus says the same thing, that the power

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<v Speaker 2>of the branches is in the vine. That's right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's when when we talked yesterday, was it yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about the bags of money and that God

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<v Speaker 2>was expecting a return in two days ago, that God

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<v Speaker 2>respects a return on his investment. We feel like that

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<v Speaker 2>to do it right. Well, Jesus is saying, don't you

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<v Speaker 2>understand the power of you as a branch, is in

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<v Speaker 2>me the vine. Yeah, I'm the one that's bringing all

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<v Speaker 2>the power to you, right, I'm the one that's it's

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<v Speaker 2>flowing from me to you so that you have the

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<v Speaker 2>ability to do what you're supposed to do. And your

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<v Speaker 2>job is, he says, to bear fruit. Right, in the

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<v Speaker 2>same way that before the investor said your job is

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<v Speaker 2>to double my investment. Here he says, your job is

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<v Speaker 2>to bear fruit. But this time what we discover is

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<v Speaker 2>to Jesus as the vine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And you know, as Christians, sometimes we get weary

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes we're you know, we can go a long

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<v Speaker 1>feeling close or you know, listening to podcasts or going

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<v Speaker 1>to church, and we feel like our relationship with God

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<v Speaker 1>goes into a void. And if there's no power in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives, if God's not producing in our lives, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's so disconnected. We have to realize, hey, it's because

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<v Speaker 1>we're not connected to the power source. Right. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to get reconnected with our relationship with our heavenly Father,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the power comes from. And that brings true

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<v Speaker 1>even more so in ministry. So we're not just Christians,

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<v Speaker 1>we're professional Christians, right, we get paid to do things

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<v Speaker 1>this way. And so sometimes you can try to produce

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<v Speaker 1>because that's what ministry is. That's what jobs do. They

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<v Speaker 1>ask for results, and so in ministry there's ministry results

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<v Speaker 1>that we try to sometimes fabricate in our own power.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll say, okay, you know, for instance, we're at

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<v Speaker 1>this we're on this stage, and we're looking at these chairs,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're probably even tonight, in a few hours, we're

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<v Speaker 1>probably gonna have five hundred kids in this room because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a kid's camp that's happening, right, and so somebody

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<v Speaker 1>so you better you better make sure that if you're

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<v Speaker 1>planning an event this big, you better be preyed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, you better rely on the power of the Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 1>Because God gives the increase, God gives the fruit. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what Jesus is saying. He's saying, you cannot do

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<v Speaker 1>anything like this by yourself, right, You've got to be

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<v Speaker 1>connected in me. I'm the vine. You are the branches.

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<v Speaker 1>Apart from me, you can do what nothing, nothing, nothing nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>So nothing good in me is going to produce anything, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's got to be through the power of the Holy Spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know any of the translations of this passage

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<v Speaker 2>that say anything other than you will produce much fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't just say his goal is for you to

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<v Speaker 2>produce fruit or a fruit. He doesn't say some fruit

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<v Speaker 2>or a fruit. Yeah, he says much fruit. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>on occasion, we'll take shots from people going, oh, you're

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<v Speaker 2>just all about the numbers. Right, there's a measuring word.

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<v Speaker 2>Even in this idea of bearing fruit. The measurement word

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<v Speaker 2>is much as opposed to some or a right. And

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<v Speaker 2>God doesn't waste words. He's not just randomly choosing a word.

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<v Speaker 2>Every translation I know says that God's goal for you

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<v Speaker 2>is to bear much fruit.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't. He didn't. He didn't misspoke. He didn't. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't misspoken.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right, he didn't just stumble through it like

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, that's correct. Well, I wanted to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to say, because you always use the word misspoke,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't say misspeak right anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't miss no, I was I was teasing. It

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<v Speaker 2>was funny that that came out. You were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about misspeaking when when when Yeah, it was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>But God doesn't just randomly throw out words. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>only had thirty one thousand ors something versus he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to ever give us in his word. And so

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<v Speaker 2>he's not wasting words here. He's saying it a purpose

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<v Speaker 2>and this idea of there's a quantifiable measurement and we

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<v Speaker 2>will be quantifiably measured. This is why in this previous story,

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days ago, he gave one guy five,

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<v Speaker 2>one guy two, one guy one, and then he said,

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<v Speaker 2>some and made it more. He didn't do that. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>you took five turned into ten, you took two and

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<v Speaker 2>turned it into four. Those are quantifiable measurements. And then

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<v Speaker 2>now he says, even when he's talking on a farming level,

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<v Speaker 2>God's goal isn't some fruit. God's goal is much fruit

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<v Speaker 2>from you. And there's multiple kinds of fruits. Obviously, he

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<v Speaker 2>eventually he gets into loving one another. That's a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of it. We know the fruit of the spirit

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<v Speaker 2>and Galatians chapter five love, joy, peace, gentleness, kindness, meekness, right,

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<v Speaker 2>long suffering, all those kinds of things. So that's part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Then Jesus said, here and as my father glorified,

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<v Speaker 2>that you bear much fruit. He says that the fruit

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<v Speaker 2>of the righteous is the tree of life, and he

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<v Speaker 2>that win his souls is wi the moble says, So

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<v Speaker 2>there's lots of different kinds of fruit, and God wants

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<v Speaker 2>all of it. That's what he wants. He wants you

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<v Speaker 2>to produce as much as possible. And so then there

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<v Speaker 2>is this difficult phrase where Jesus says, listen, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to be pruned. So I went out a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>days ago, it was a couple weeks ago now, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had a tomato plant that had some extra branches

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't look like they were going to produce any fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't have any flowers on them, they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to produce any tomatoes. And so I went and cut

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of those and got those out of the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I did the same thing. I have some climbing pea plants.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just about ready to produce, and there was some

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<v Speaker 2>that were dying, and I cut some of those off,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, both of those plants just

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<v Speaker 2>went like crazy, And so it's interesting. Sometimes there's things

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<v Speaker 2>that are useless that aren't actually going to produce in

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<v Speaker 2>our life, and God's going to cut those off. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what pruning is, is you cut off the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 2>useless that's not going to produce anything, so that all

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<v Speaker 2>of the energy goes to the ones that are going

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<v Speaker 2>to produce. Because if I got a branch here and

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<v Speaker 2>it has four leaves, and I've got a branch here

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<v Speaker 2>that has four leaves and a flower that's going to

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<v Speaker 2>produce a tomato, what I don't want to do is

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<v Speaker 2>spread that all the energy nine ways. These four leaves

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<v Speaker 2>aren't going to produce anything in these four plus the flower.

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<v Speaker 2>What I want to do is get rid of these four.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I get all of that extra energy pushing towards

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<v Speaker 2>this one, and it's going to produce more, right, more,

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<v Speaker 2>The fruit is going to be better. And so God

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<v Speaker 2>does the same thing. Sometimes that can be painful in

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<v Speaker 2>our lives, and we just have to understand that all

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<v Speaker 2>he's doing is he's making us so much better. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get through the pain He'll take us as long as

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<v Speaker 2>we stay connected to Jesus, We're going to get through

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<v Speaker 2>the pain. He'll heal us. But we will be so

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<v Speaker 2>much more effective on the other side of that pain

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<v Speaker 2>book that Bruce Wilkerson wrote. Man, I'm drawing a blank

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know with the Jabez thing did. But he

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<v Speaker 1>also wrote something on this too, and I have it

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<v Speaker 1>in my office. Anyway, I remember reading that little book,

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<v Speaker 1>and I remember him talking about how when it says

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<v Speaker 1>prune right, some branches are pruned. He said that it

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<v Speaker 1>could literally be translated into lifting up the the lifting

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<v Speaker 1>up and so he says, lifting up is an unusual

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<v Speaker 1>phrase until you realize that part of pruning something could

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<v Speaker 1>be taking branches that are like laying in the mud,

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<v Speaker 1>branches that could produce right, but to lift up because

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<v Speaker 1>vines have to be tended to write, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>lift them up, wash them off, clean them up, tie

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<v Speaker 1>them up. He said, sometimes that could be a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the you know, pruning process and preparing process for

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<v Speaker 1>tending to your to your vine. And I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was really.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting part of the cultivating of that, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Cultivating yeah, because because you know, a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>we hear pruning, we think of the discipline and the

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<v Speaker 1>and the harshness of it, which there's there's definitely that

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<v Speaker 1>part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the word prune nine times out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of ten means to cut.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, but I'm just trying to give everybody a

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<v Speaker 2>lifeline here. Well Bruce did, yeah, yeah, Exactly's but.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was interesting how he said, I just

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<v Speaker 1>remember that word lift up and he said, he said

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<v Speaker 1>that there's that's a part of this passage. And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that's interesting how pruning could be both harsh and

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<v Speaker 1>gentle at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I don't see it as harsh. It's loving. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>for sure, it's not. So so I don't know that harshness.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of has a.

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<v Speaker 1>Harsh only in the pain of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. But but when it comes to hey, this is

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<v Speaker 2>holding you back, let me, let me cut you loose

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<v Speaker 2>from that, you'll heal from that, right, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>have the right attitude, it doesn't cause a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>pain anyways, Right, Okay, God's just removing that from me

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<v Speaker 2>so that I can run faster, so I can do more,

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<v Speaker 2>so I can have a greater impact. But Jesus says,

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<v Speaker 2>apart from me, you can do nothing, and then ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>he leads into I'm going to call you my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not minaemy. I'm telling you these things because you're

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<v Speaker 2>my friends. But it is interesting he says, you're only

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<v Speaker 2>my friends if you do what I command. You are

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<v Speaker 2>my friends. Verse fourteen. You are my friends if you

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<v Speaker 2>do what I command. So there's an obedience component to

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<v Speaker 2>the friendship with Jesus. I'm separated from him. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>attached to him when I'm not obeying him, but I

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<v Speaker 2>am attached to him. And this is just in your

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<v Speaker 2>everyday life, the blessings, the power of God in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about going to heaven. Obedience doesn't get

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<v Speaker 2>you to heaven, but the power of God in your

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<v Speaker 2>life to produce fruit comes from obedience.

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<v Speaker 1>And I find it interesting how just two verses later

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<v Speaker 1>he says, hey, go produce the fruit, and then two

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<v Speaker 1>verses later he goes, this is my command love each other. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is interesting because you know, you would think that

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<v Speaker 1>in that moment Jesus would talk about, uh, maybe something else.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm always I don't know why, but I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>thrown back a little bit. How much Jesus commands us

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<v Speaker 1>to love other humans. I don't know why, because I

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<v Speaker 1>because for my entire life, I've always thought that. I've

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<v Speaker 1>always thought he says, oh, the two greatest commandments are

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<v Speaker 1>love God and then the second one is equally important,

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<v Speaker 1>which is love others. And that always confused me. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, why, I know it makes sense to me

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<v Speaker 1>to love God because I love God.

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<v Speaker 2>But have you seen these idiots?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, It's like, but people are sometimes really hard to love.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, and there are people well he

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<v Speaker 2>knows that, yes, he knows it's hard to love people.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves anyway, that's an important part of what bearing

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<v Speaker 1>fruit means. Love each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it's interest. He's talking about love, and right

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of love, he talks about it being

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<v Speaker 2>a choice. You didn't choose me, I chose you, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so you have to understand that there's a choice

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to loving. There's a there's a choice

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<v Speaker 2>in loving God, there's a choice in loving other people.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, well, hey, that's our time, so hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>will see you tomorrow on the Bible. Guys,