WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:08.209 --> 00:00:11.299 Candace Dellacona: Welcome to the Sandwich Generation Survival Guide. 00:00:11.299 --> 00:00:17.329 I am your host, Candace Dellacona, and I am really excited to welcome 00:00:17.389 --> 00:00:22.399 our guest today, Rachel Welch, who is here as a mother, as a 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:25.909 daughter, as a woman's health expert. 00:00:26.429 --> 00:00:33.029 Rachel is known far and wide as a pre and postnatal fitness pioneer, and Rachel 00:00:33.029 --> 00:00:35.849 is the founder of Revolution Motherhood. 00:00:35.849 --> 00:00:36.489 So welcome Rachel. 00:00:37.559 --> 00:00:38.499 Rachel Welch: Thank you, Candace. 00:00:38.519 --> 00:00:39.839 It's really a joy to be here. 00:00:40.169 --> 00:00:44.489 Candace Dellacona: I'm so excited to have you and to talk to you about 00:00:44.489 --> 00:00:52.349 women's health and all of the struggles we have as mothers, as daughters, as 00:00:52.409 --> 00:00:55.139 members of the sandwich generation. 00:00:55.559 --> 00:00:59.999 One of our favorite topics here is to talk about self-care, and 00:00:59.999 --> 00:01:01.064 that's really why you're here. 00:01:01.904 --> 00:01:02.414 Rachel Welch: Yeah. 00:01:02.604 --> 00:01:06.744 I'm excited to talk about self care and to unpack what that term really means. 00:01:07.344 --> 00:01:08.394 It's thrown around a lot. 00:01:08.934 --> 00:01:09.354 Candace Dellacona: It is. 00:01:09.354 --> 00:01:11.064 And that's a really good place to start. 00:01:11.064 --> 00:01:16.824 And maybe you can fill us in on your journey and what led you to find 00:01:17.424 --> 00:01:19.554 and establish Revolution Motherhood. 00:01:21.129 --> 00:01:25.839 Rachel Welch: At its inception revolution, motherhood really was born when I became 00:01:25.839 --> 00:01:34.269 a mom and it was born to become a body and health education platform for women. 00:01:34.739 --> 00:01:38.249 When I became a mom, my oldest just turned 14. 00:01:38.699 --> 00:01:46.439 The black hole of women's health information was much more vacant 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:48.359 and vast than it is today. 00:01:49.029 --> 00:01:52.629 And I would even say even while it's a lot more filled right now, 00:01:52.629 --> 00:01:54.459 the information isn't necessarily. 00:01:54.764 --> 00:01:57.374 Better or more easy to understand today. 00:01:58.004 --> 00:02:04.964 But when I became a mom and discovered firsthand the real failings of 00:02:04.964 --> 00:02:10.039 the industries I was a part of with regard to women and more 00:02:10.654 --> 00:02:14.594 specifically than failing women had never even really considered women. 00:02:15.014 --> 00:02:23.144 And the different bodies we live in and the changes that our bodies transcend year 00:02:23.144 --> 00:02:30.584 over year and decade over decade, and no conversation, no language, and certainly 00:02:30.584 --> 00:02:37.754 no roadmap to navigating those many changes so that women could thrive and. 00:02:38.924 --> 00:02:42.374 I speak of those industries, their fitness, their eastern medicine, their 00:02:42.374 --> 00:02:44.654 health their, all the movement modalities. 00:02:44.654 --> 00:02:46.364 There's yoga, Pilates. 00:02:46.364 --> 00:02:47.324 I was in all of it. 00:02:47.774 --> 00:02:50.714 And that really fired me up because 00:02:50.789 --> 00:02:56.234 because the disregard for the quality of our physical health is 00:02:56.234 --> 00:02:58.364 actually a disregard for our lives. 00:02:58.714 --> 00:03:02.464 Your physical health colors, everything about your reality, and 00:03:02.464 --> 00:03:05.254 in particular, once you become a mom. 00:03:05.794 --> 00:03:11.344 Those demands are amplified and that amplification is occurring 00:03:11.374 --> 00:03:14.344 on a compromised physicality. 00:03:14.764 --> 00:03:18.634 Let alone a compromised hormone and emotional and everything else system. 00:03:18.694 --> 00:03:23.344 And so I really set out to answer those questions, not just for 00:03:23.344 --> 00:03:27.904 myself, but for women everywhere, because we deserve to be valued. 00:03:27.904 --> 00:03:29.944 Our bodies are valuable. 00:03:29.944 --> 00:03:35.264 And the assumption that from childbirth onward, even if you don't have a baby, 00:03:35.264 --> 00:03:38.954 you've crossed the threshold of forties and fifties, that there's an assumption 00:03:38.954 --> 00:03:40.724 that women's bodies just decline. 00:03:41.439 --> 00:03:43.164 And that's totally unacceptable. 00:03:43.914 --> 00:03:45.444 Candace Dellacona: So first of all, amen to that. 00:03:45.444 --> 00:03:48.564 And I think you bring up a really important point that here you are, 00:03:48.984 --> 00:03:51.864 you're immersed in this world of fitness. 00:03:52.254 --> 00:04:00.204 You have education around the physicality, the body, and really have surrounded 00:04:00.204 --> 00:04:05.934 yourself probably with the people that should be able to have provided you 00:04:05.934 --> 00:04:11.874 with the answers and the data, and you as someone who had the education and 00:04:11.874 --> 00:04:16.224 the resources to find the additional resources, you couldn't find them. 00:04:16.224 --> 00:04:20.514 So it sounds like you just created the resource, and I love what you're 00:04:20.514 --> 00:04:28.114 saying about we, part of the deficit of that information is a statement on 00:04:28.114 --> 00:04:30.904 the fact that it wasn't considered. 00:04:30.934 --> 00:04:36.844 That women's health is dismissed, and so you're bringing it to the forefront 00:04:36.904 --> 00:04:39.874 to make sure that we're not dismissed. 00:04:40.219 --> 00:04:41.149 Rachel Welch: Absolutely. 00:04:41.359 --> 00:04:42.769 We've never been studied. 00:04:43.334 --> 00:04:48.974 And as much as that is now coming out in the menopause conversation and the 00:04:48.974 --> 00:04:52.574 menopause movement, when I started Revolution Motherhood, I would say 00:04:52.574 --> 00:04:54.524 the movement then was diastasis recti. 00:04:54.564 --> 00:04:59.514 These conversations that are so important to be having out loud in the open as 00:04:59.514 --> 00:05:01.404 women, we process by talking it out. 00:05:01.404 --> 00:05:03.264 We need to know that we're seen and heard. 00:05:03.664 --> 00:05:06.344 The research is still not there. 00:05:06.734 --> 00:05:11.894 And as much as I give our physicians the benefit of the doubt and credit 00:05:11.894 --> 00:05:16.904 for working in a very broken system they're working an uphill battle trying 00:05:16.904 --> 00:05:20.174 to answer questions based on research that hasn't been done and experience 00:05:20.174 --> 00:05:24.224 they don't have, and frankly, topics that are way outside their scope. 00:05:24.734 --> 00:05:26.864 And so as women, it's like. 00:05:27.394 --> 00:05:30.484 As always, we're left to figure it out by ourselves and to 00:05:30.484 --> 00:05:32.434 self-educate and then self-advocate. 00:05:33.014 --> 00:05:38.804 And so to have a place like Revolution Motherhood where there's reliable 00:05:38.804 --> 00:05:40.694 information, it's science backed. 00:05:40.694 --> 00:05:42.464 I researched women's bodies. 00:05:42.704 --> 00:05:44.114 I researched the changes. 00:05:44.114 --> 00:05:48.584 I created a cross training method that actually meets you through each 00:05:48.584 --> 00:05:53.624 change so that every life change becomes an opportunity for growth. 00:05:54.194 --> 00:05:57.829 And a deeper connection, I would say, to your humanity and to your essence. 00:05:58.169 --> 00:05:59.729 You just get better with age. 00:05:59.789 --> 00:06:01.559 You don't decline with age. 00:06:01.869 --> 00:06:06.079 And to have an outlook like that and a resource like that is it's a lifeline 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:11.269 to a lot of women who have shown up in my office and who I know you interact 00:06:11.269 --> 00:06:15.439 with all the time, who are just like, they've given up and shuttered 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:17.844 themselves out of living in their bodies. 00:06:18.844 --> 00:06:23.074 Candace Dellacona: That's a great segue to talk about the importance of self-care 00:06:23.074 --> 00:06:30.934 and making sure that in the midst of trying to raise good humans and advocate 00:06:30.934 --> 00:06:33.064 for the older generation in our lives. 00:06:33.799 --> 00:06:36.529 That we are not sort of lost in the middle. 00:06:36.529 --> 00:06:41.169 And that's a big part of the sandwich generation and the moniker and the 00:06:41.169 --> 00:06:44.889 origination of the moniker, which is feeling squeezed in between. 00:06:44.889 --> 00:06:50.709 And I think society dismisses us and we dismiss ourselves because we're 00:06:50.709 --> 00:06:53.689 so busy looking to other people. 00:06:53.929 --> 00:06:59.479 So can you talk a little bit about why self care is so important and 00:06:59.479 --> 00:07:01.879 what that means for our listeners? 00:07:02.604 --> 00:07:02.894 Rachel Welch: Yeah. 00:07:03.789 --> 00:07:09.069 Absolutely self care in my world means having a living 00:07:09.069 --> 00:07:10.629 relationship with yourself. 00:07:11.149 --> 00:07:12.919 And that means through your body. 00:07:12.919 --> 00:07:15.319 It means listening to your emotions. 00:07:15.349 --> 00:07:20.979 It means, investing time and energy in knowing yourself the same way you 00:07:20.979 --> 00:07:24.519 invest time and energy in a relationship with your children and with your 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:27.189 partner, and with your parents, and with all the people you're taking care 00:07:27.189 --> 00:07:28.599 of, and you're sandwiched in between. 00:07:29.169 --> 00:07:36.739 Investing that energy in yourself is what gives you your personal ability to 00:07:36.889 --> 00:07:41.899 process and align your decisions that you're making in your life for these 00:07:41.899 --> 00:07:47.869 people in your caretaking efforts, but also for yourself to navigate not just 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:52.839 physiological changes, but the changes that come with living decade over decade. 00:07:53.319 --> 00:08:03.059 And the sooner you establish that habit, and I will say self-care is a habit, not a 00:08:03.059 --> 00:08:06.149 motivational sort of if you feel like it. 00:08:06.329 --> 00:08:06.419 Right. 00:08:06.879 --> 00:08:07.539 Candace Dellacona: Yeah. 00:08:07.574 --> 00:08:07.864 Yeah. 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:11.849 Rachel Welch: because one of the things that really happens for us. 00:08:12.304 --> 00:08:18.334 In that sandwiched, overtaxed, overwhelmed reality as caretakers of so many others, 00:08:18.754 --> 00:08:20.974 is you never are gonna feel like it. 00:08:21.154 --> 00:08:24.454 As soon as you open this can of worms, like you're gonna feel things, you're 00:08:24.454 --> 00:08:28.284 gonna face things, your thoughts are gonna be like loud, all those things that 00:08:28.284 --> 00:08:32.964 come up, pressing it down and ignoring it, we all know is not going to work. 00:08:33.709 --> 00:08:34.519 Candace Dellacona: It doesn't work. 00:08:34.519 --> 00:08:36.649 I can attest if anybody needs proof. 00:08:37.219 --> 00:08:38.569 Yeah, no, I love that. 00:08:38.849 --> 00:08:44.109 The fact that you're bringing it up and framing it as a routine. 00:08:45.714 --> 00:08:50.214 And an exercise is so important because self-care doesn't 00:08:50.244 --> 00:08:52.554 just mean going for a walk. 00:08:53.484 --> 00:08:57.084 It means prioritizing who you are. 00:08:57.564 --> 00:09:03.524 And to your point, thinking about the body that you embody as the 00:09:03.524 --> 00:09:06.224 pathway, I guess to the outside world. 00:09:06.284 --> 00:09:12.649 And one of the things that I loved that you brought up in a past conversation that 00:09:13.279 --> 00:09:17.719 we had is honoring your body at every age. 00:09:17.719 --> 00:09:21.139 We have listeners who have young children and maybe they're in their 00:09:21.139 --> 00:09:24.109 thirties, and people who have moved on. 00:09:24.109 --> 00:09:26.389 I myself am in my fifth decade. 00:09:26.389 --> 00:09:32.599 What does that mean and why do you think that we as a society 00:09:32.929 --> 00:09:36.319 don't honor our body at every age? 00:09:36.349 --> 00:09:40.429 What is it that prevents us from doing that? 00:09:42.239 --> 00:09:44.194 Rachel Welch: I'll share like an in imagine. 00:09:44.194 --> 00:09:44.204 Okay. 00:09:46.199 --> 00:09:50.609 You have an experience in your body, whether you're 10, whether you're 20, 00:09:50.609 --> 00:09:54.239 whether you're 50, whether you're 80, you have something going on in your 00:09:54.239 --> 00:09:55.619 body that doesn't quite feel right. 00:09:55.649 --> 00:09:57.299 Maybe it's pain, maybe it's something going on. 00:09:58.499 --> 00:10:02.189 We know whether you've experienced it directly or you've just heard 00:10:02.189 --> 00:10:03.449 it from the women around you. 00:10:03.569 --> 00:10:09.179 You know that the most likely response you're gonna get if you take this 00:10:09.179 --> 00:10:12.479 to a healthcare provider is a shrug. 00:10:13.619 --> 00:10:14.579 Well, I don't know. 00:10:14.579 --> 00:10:15.479 You're getting older. 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:17.119 You had a baby. 00:10:17.119 --> 00:10:18.019 What do you expect? 00:10:18.019 --> 00:10:19.729 Your body's just gonna be like this now. 00:10:20.339 --> 00:10:21.299 We get dismissed. 00:10:21.869 --> 00:10:28.169 And so starting to bring things up and pay attention to your body as you 00:10:28.169 --> 00:10:34.409 age is just scary because if you have something wrong with you or you are 00:10:34.589 --> 00:10:41.909 feeling something going on and there is no path to change it or recover or fix 00:10:41.909 --> 00:10:44.079 it, I'd rather not know about it too. 00:10:44.154 --> 00:10:44.444 Candace Dellacona: Yeah. 00:10:44.729 --> 00:10:45.179 Yeah. 00:10:45.299 --> 00:10:45.779 Rachel Welch: right? 00:10:46.139 --> 00:10:49.019 It's like, well, we better just get on with it because this is gonna take 00:10:49.019 --> 00:10:50.579 time and energy I don't have already. 00:10:50.579 --> 00:10:54.629 So why am I gonna take the time to go see somebody who's gonna tell 00:10:54.629 --> 00:10:55.919 me that I'm just broken forever? 00:10:56.129 --> 00:10:56.939 Candace Dellacona: You're so right. 00:10:57.059 --> 00:10:57.839 You're so right. 00:10:57.839 --> 00:11:04.679 There's like almost, it's an easy way out because you look at having to expend 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:07.229 more time than you already do not have. 00:11:08.384 --> 00:11:11.174 But it does go back to devaluing ourselves, right? 00:11:11.174 --> 00:11:16.154 Because if we had value, then we would say this is necessary time to spend. 00:11:16.814 --> 00:11:21.449 I mean, I think what is really important to think about too. 00:11:21.459 --> 00:11:26.119 And, I try to think about is I'm advocating for my children, 00:11:26.119 --> 00:11:28.989 for example, or my dad. 00:11:29.079 --> 00:11:33.849 And one of the ways that I'm a great advocate is because I know them well. 00:11:33.959 --> 00:11:39.089 And so it sounds to me like you're talking about the same thing for our own bodies. 00:11:39.089 --> 00:11:42.419 Like the better you know your body, the better you can articulate 00:11:42.749 --> 00:11:44.159 and advocate for yourself. 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:45.809 Rachel Welch: absolutely. 00:11:45.809 --> 00:11:54.854 So flip that what if that I just described and what if you had had a multi-decade 00:11:54.854 --> 00:11:59.294 relationship with yourself, and that was really the story that I came into 00:11:59.294 --> 00:12:03.104 motherhood with and having this, all of a sudden life change occur in my body. 00:12:03.554 --> 00:12:09.734 I had a template against which to test and recover and experiment on myself 00:12:10.154 --> 00:12:12.134 and understand, this is working. 00:12:12.134 --> 00:12:12.974 This isn't working. 00:12:13.024 --> 00:12:18.079 Take that and apply it to you have a general understanding, a good base 00:12:18.079 --> 00:12:22.279 knowledge of how your neuromuscular system works, when it feels like you're 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:23.869 connected, when it feels like you're not. 00:12:24.139 --> 00:12:29.299 You have a general understanding of what occurs to your body when you're 00:12:29.299 --> 00:12:34.409 entering perimenopause and menopause and you're well-educated and versed. 00:12:34.554 --> 00:12:38.179 And then you can go to your medical providers and you 00:12:38.179 --> 00:12:39.534 can one, vet them better. 00:12:39.874 --> 00:12:41.704 If you can know the questions to ask. 00:12:41.704 --> 00:12:47.179 You can really choose a better, more skilled provider who's already 00:12:47.179 --> 00:12:50.239 doing their own research in women's health and ready to meet you there. 00:12:50.289 --> 00:12:55.119 But you can also have better language that they're going to hear better. 00:12:55.489 --> 00:12:59.389 And you can, and this is unfortunate, but it's what we all have to do in this 00:12:59.389 --> 00:13:02.859 day and age is you're gonna maybe have to go through several physicians, right? 00:13:03.129 --> 00:13:04.899 Test one out and you don't get the answers you want. 00:13:04.899 --> 00:13:06.279 Go get a second and third opinion. 00:13:06.639 --> 00:13:08.134 And it's like, Nope, that one wasn't it. 00:13:08.814 --> 00:13:14.079 Take hormone replacement therapy, take a blown out knee, take a hip replacement, 00:13:14.349 --> 00:13:20.199 like these are major life moments for women in particular, and having the 00:13:20.199 --> 00:13:23.589 right medical guide as you go through it. 00:13:24.219 --> 00:13:28.449 The medical guide is gonna meet you at one level and then having the knowledge 00:13:28.779 --> 00:13:32.739 that you have about your body and your relationship with yourself is what's 00:13:32.739 --> 00:13:34.479 gonna take you to a full recovery. 00:13:35.214 --> 00:13:39.264 And that's true for every single life event, whether it's pregnancy, 00:13:39.264 --> 00:13:46.479 childbirth, a hurt back a skiing injury, or you're 70 and just trying to maintain 00:13:46.479 --> 00:13:47.949 really strong muscle and bone mass. 00:13:48.549 --> 00:13:51.969 Candace Dellacona: And with that being said, and going to the various care 00:13:51.969 --> 00:13:58.359 providers and trying out the doctors and figuring out if that is an individual that 00:13:58.359 --> 00:14:01.749 you can communicate with and that they hear you in a way you need to be heard. 00:14:02.189 --> 00:14:07.549 Or open to the, data you're essentially giving them by telling 00:14:07.549 --> 00:14:09.059 them what ails you let's say. 00:14:09.479 --> 00:14:13.139 Why do you think the healthcare space is so far behind? 00:14:13.139 --> 00:14:15.569 Why has the healthcare space not caught up? 00:14:15.569 --> 00:14:21.994 I shared with you that, it took me over a year to get into a physician 00:14:21.994 --> 00:14:27.194 that's specialized in perimenopause and menopause, and I'm here in New York City. 00:14:27.194 --> 00:14:31.214 I have great health insurance, so why is it that the healthcare 00:14:31.214 --> 00:14:33.794 system hasn't caught up to help us? 00:14:34.814 --> 00:14:37.754 Rachel Welch: There are a lot of facets to that answer. 00:14:37.854 --> 00:14:40.864 I would say zoom out away from women's health and look at 00:14:40.864 --> 00:14:43.324 healthcare as a general umbrella. 00:14:43.384 --> 00:14:49.144 And I think we can all agree it's a crumbling, antiquated, broken system. 00:14:49.504 --> 00:14:54.104 It has been dismantled like systemically by a lot of different forces, 00:14:54.134 --> 00:14:57.944 political and nonpolitical, but certainly by financial forces, right? 00:14:58.184 --> 00:15:02.814 So that, increasingly it's for profit, decreasingly, it's for genuine health. 00:15:03.314 --> 00:15:06.134 So that's the condition under which we're dealing with medicine. 00:15:06.434 --> 00:15:08.114 Then zoom in on women's health. 00:15:08.324 --> 00:15:12.404 Women's health historically has not been researched, has not been prioritized. 00:15:12.664 --> 00:15:15.214 Physicians are not routinely trained in it. 00:15:15.214 --> 00:15:17.584 Same situation as fitness instructors. 00:15:17.644 --> 00:15:19.444 They're not trained in women's fitness. 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:23.989 That's changing a little bit now, there's just no education around it. 00:15:24.049 --> 00:15:32.119 And so for a physician to be trained in perimenopause, in even in obstetrics 00:15:32.119 --> 00:15:33.949 and gynecology, like that's a field. 00:15:34.129 --> 00:15:38.599 But then in women's health related to obstetrics and gynecology, that has to 00:15:38.599 --> 00:15:41.929 be the physician going out and educating themselves and wanting to learn it. 00:15:42.499 --> 00:15:44.799 And then take the position of the physician. 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:49.739 I work a lot with practitioners, both, from obs, midwives, PTs, 00:15:49.739 --> 00:15:51.029 like across the whole spectrum. 00:15:51.599 --> 00:15:53.729 These people are burnt out. 00:15:54.179 --> 00:15:56.159 They are doing the very best they can. 00:15:56.189 --> 00:15:58.349 They're very limited in time. 00:15:58.589 --> 00:16:01.109 They're also really restrained by scope. 00:16:01.409 --> 00:16:06.089 They are physically not allowed to go outside their scope, so 00:16:06.119 --> 00:16:07.379 they're allowed to refer out. 00:16:08.184 --> 00:16:12.054 But if you ask them a question that is not within their training 00:16:12.204 --> 00:16:13.524 they're not allowed to answer. 00:16:14.094 --> 00:16:18.744 And so there's a, an enormous amount of restriction and gagging on the 00:16:18.744 --> 00:16:23.694 medical providers themselves in a system that's just crushing them, 00:16:24.609 --> 00:16:24.789 Candace Dellacona: So. 00:16:24.789 --> 00:16:27.879 When you think of that though, and so we're on the other 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:29.439 side as the novice, right? 00:16:29.439 --> 00:16:31.059 As the non-medical person. 00:16:31.569 --> 00:16:37.139 And let's say that we've done a great job at knowing who we 00:16:37.139 --> 00:16:39.239 are and understanding our body. 00:16:39.509 --> 00:16:43.319 How do we find the right practitioner? 00:16:43.319 --> 00:16:48.989 What is your sort of best advice for somebody who really needs to 00:16:48.989 --> 00:16:51.089 connect with the right care provider? 00:16:51.089 --> 00:16:52.079 Where do they start? 00:16:53.364 --> 00:16:54.924 Rachel Welch: Google is not a bad place. 00:16:55.194 --> 00:16:57.929 I will tell you, I would go to Google before I went to social media. 00:16:58.674 --> 00:16:59.004 Candace Dellacona: Yeah. 00:16:59.669 --> 00:17:03.899 Rachel Welch: Social media is just so invasive and divisive. 00:17:04.019 --> 00:17:05.219 Put that to the side. 00:17:05.579 --> 00:17:12.149 Go to Google and I would put in the terms that you, for instance, let's 00:17:12.149 --> 00:17:13.739 take, we'll take perimenopause. 00:17:13.889 --> 00:17:14.099 Okay. 00:17:14.099 --> 00:17:18.314 So if I were gonna Google a practitioner and perimenopause, I would put in 00:17:18.704 --> 00:17:25.124 perimenopause general practitioner, or if I wanted like women's health specialist, 00:17:25.154 --> 00:17:30.644 something like that I would put a general geographical area around it, so I would 00:17:30.644 --> 00:17:32.714 put some parameters like that around it. 00:17:32.924 --> 00:17:34.334 See what comes up. 00:17:34.724 --> 00:17:40.979 Then generally you do get a list or a link to like Zocdoc or 00:17:40.979 --> 00:17:46.079 some, list of practitioners where they've been reviewed by patients. 00:17:46.469 --> 00:17:48.239 And then you've gotta do your research. 00:17:48.239 --> 00:17:50.684 You've gotta like pull out a few of the physicians. 00:17:50.864 --> 00:17:53.564 I will tell you this is a place for AI as well. 00:17:53.614 --> 00:17:57.124 I'll go into Claude and I will plug in some doctor's names. 00:17:57.124 --> 00:17:59.704 I'll plug into my health insurance and I'll be like, line this up. 00:18:00.274 --> 00:18:02.134 And Claude's pretty good. 00:18:02.274 --> 00:18:04.639 They, he they'll help define things for you. 00:18:04.639 --> 00:18:06.349 Candace Dellacona: That's a great suggestion actually. 00:18:06.389 --> 00:18:09.399 Another great example of how AI can help you. 00:18:09.774 --> 00:18:10.884 Rachel Welch: It can, yeah. 00:18:10.884 --> 00:18:12.804 It can cut through the noise a little bit for you. 00:18:13.194 --> 00:18:16.549 And so that'll then start with like, all right, I've narrowed it 00:18:16.549 --> 00:18:18.739 down to a handful of physicians. 00:18:19.249 --> 00:18:24.129 And then, then you can like Google the actual name and just 00:18:24.129 --> 00:18:25.659 start reading about that person. 00:18:25.659 --> 00:18:30.979 Read their bio, read the bio they wrote about themselves, and figure out 00:18:30.979 --> 00:18:32.479 what they're saying about themselves. 00:18:33.019 --> 00:18:34.249 That's where I would start. 00:18:34.249 --> 00:18:37.819 And then honestly, I've had a couple physicians where I thought they 00:18:37.819 --> 00:18:40.279 were, I thought they were gonna be great, and I called the office to 00:18:40.279 --> 00:18:45.739 try to make an appointment and that experience was so weird and off-putting. 00:18:45.739 --> 00:18:47.779 I was like, I don't think that's the one actually. 00:18:48.139 --> 00:18:49.549 And then I would go to somebody else. 00:18:49.589 --> 00:18:51.299 Don't be afraid to change doctors. 00:18:51.299 --> 00:18:55.294 All of this takes time, which is why it becomes it's easy to get 00:18:55.294 --> 00:18:56.554 self-defeating about it, right? 00:18:56.904 --> 00:18:59.334 So it does take a little bit of diligence and time. 00:18:59.644 --> 00:19:02.034 But this is time that's well spent. 00:19:02.179 --> 00:19:05.149 Candace Dellacona: It is and making right, and making it a priority. 00:19:05.149 --> 00:19:09.809 And you just use the word noise, which I think is really illustrative, 00:19:09.809 --> 00:19:15.309 because as someone who is now in her fifties and searching for the 00:19:15.309 --> 00:19:21.364 data to help me find my way through, how do we cut through the noise? 00:19:22.214 --> 00:19:24.764 There's this vast vacancy that we talked about, right? 00:19:24.764 --> 00:19:27.824 And there was like the wide open space where, you realize 00:19:27.824 --> 00:19:29.564 that there was no information. 00:19:29.954 --> 00:19:33.314 And then I feel like it's two extremes because then there's also so much 00:19:33.314 --> 00:19:36.924 information and we're being told to take this supplement and don't 00:19:36.924 --> 00:19:40.664 do hormone replacement therapy, and then this could, don't have soy. 00:19:40.664 --> 00:19:47.654 And so how do you cut through the noise with all of the information 00:19:47.654 --> 00:19:49.544 that's floating out there in the ether? 00:19:50.099 --> 00:19:52.829 Rachel Welch: it's really hard and we'll just start there. 00:19:52.979 --> 00:19:58.469 You have to be really an adult with yourself and discipline the information 00:19:58.469 --> 00:19:59.549 you're allowing in your brain. 00:19:59.549 --> 00:20:03.359 And I would say this across all information, not just your health. 00:20:03.449 --> 00:20:06.459 Know, I would, this is how I relate to it. 00:20:06.639 --> 00:20:07.929 I choose my sources. 00:20:08.379 --> 00:20:12.819 I don't allow every source into my brain, but I also choose sources 00:20:12.909 --> 00:20:19.059 that are science backed or based in research, based in data. 00:20:19.509 --> 00:20:24.399 For instance, someone just in our community the other day was asking 00:20:24.399 --> 00:20:27.159 about a perimenopause supplement. 00:20:27.204 --> 00:20:30.034 And they're just like jumping into the group and they're like, what do I do? 00:20:30.944 --> 00:20:34.544 I respond to all those inquiries and I went in and I found an NIH 00:20:34.544 --> 00:20:36.304 study National Institutes of Health. 00:20:36.304 --> 00:20:42.844 I found an NIH study and I linked her to that and I said, this is from NIH, it's 00:20:42.844 --> 00:20:44.614 science backed, it's research backed. 00:20:44.824 --> 00:20:48.994 They're even at the front, like in the abstract saying women 00:20:49.384 --> 00:20:51.424 need more study in this area. 00:20:51.484 --> 00:20:53.854 However, from what we have seen in the data we've 00:20:53.854 --> 00:20:55.444 collected, here are the results. 00:20:55.744 --> 00:20:59.794 So it's not telling you a should, it's not advice. 00:21:00.094 --> 00:21:02.104 It's here is the data. 00:21:02.374 --> 00:21:03.964 You can weigh it for yourself. 00:21:04.204 --> 00:21:08.134 And then I said at the bottom of that, here's my opinion, right? 00:21:08.764 --> 00:21:12.544 In my experience, supplements should be just that. 00:21:12.889 --> 00:21:17.389 A supplement to your whole nutrition and active lifestyle, and you have 00:21:17.389 --> 00:21:21.229 gotta run supplements like this by your doctor because your blood work matters. 00:21:21.469 --> 00:21:24.319 So supplements just 'cause they're vitamins doesn't mean they don't 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:27.259 have anything in them, or they can't have any negative impact on you. 00:21:27.309 --> 00:21:29.679 I was like, you need to know if you're deficient in anything or 00:21:29.679 --> 00:21:32.379 what if this is gonna contradict anything that you're already taking. 00:21:32.379 --> 00:21:34.809 Like you definitely need to run this stuff by your doctor. 00:21:35.169 --> 00:21:37.749 So that's a, that's one of the ways we cut through the noise, right? 00:21:37.749 --> 00:21:41.769 Like she came to a trusted closed community, asked her a question, 00:21:42.039 --> 00:21:44.799 and the response is, here's science. 00:21:45.939 --> 00:21:50.189 Definitely run it by your doctor, but also litmus check this 00:21:50.519 --> 00:21:52.859 with your holistic lifestyle. 00:21:53.764 --> 00:21:57.214 And the other piece I would say is once you do wanna try something, if 00:21:57.214 --> 00:22:00.784 you've tested it out, you like think it looks great, you have five friends 00:22:00.784 --> 00:22:04.744 who've taken it and tried it, try it like, if it seems safe, go for it. 00:22:05.254 --> 00:22:07.864 And then listen to the results you're having in your body. 00:22:08.254 --> 00:22:09.484 Don't override it. 00:22:09.724 --> 00:22:11.914 'cause as women, we're just trained to doubt ourselves, 00:22:11.944 --> 00:22:12.634 Candace Dellacona: That's true. 00:22:12.784 --> 00:22:14.744 The, the inner voice Is a real thing. 00:22:14.969 --> 00:22:15.929 Rachel Welch: It's it just must be me. 00:22:15.929 --> 00:22:16.499 I'm crazy. 00:22:16.499 --> 00:22:17.789 It is no, you are not crazy. 00:22:17.789 --> 00:22:19.019 Your body's talking to you. 00:22:19.229 --> 00:22:21.059 So maybe it worked for those five other women. 00:22:21.209 --> 00:22:23.039 Maybe you're having a negative response. 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:23.519 Stop. 00:22:23.879 --> 00:22:29.009 See if the negative response stops, and if it does, that's not the thing for you. 00:22:29.399 --> 00:22:34.079 And I would say that from fitness to nutrition, to diets, to 00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:35.969 supplements to like all of it. 00:22:36.224 --> 00:22:39.704 Candace Dellacona: Yeah, and you brought up technology before and your 00:22:39.704 --> 00:22:41.414 answer went back to technology, right? 00:22:41.414 --> 00:22:44.864 We have access to a lot of information, which can be, on the 00:22:44.864 --> 00:22:48.599 one hand, confusing because we have a lot of information coming at us. 00:22:48.929 --> 00:22:53.609 But on the other hand, you're talking about vetting resources and making sure 00:22:53.609 --> 00:22:58.709 that you know the website, for example, and the link that you provided was to NIH. 00:22:58.979 --> 00:23:01.149 So that is a reputable resource. 00:23:01.149 --> 00:23:05.139 And then always going back to that physician that you've identified, 00:23:05.619 --> 00:23:10.059 who you can have that sort of dialogue with, and really knowing 00:23:10.059 --> 00:23:11.614 the source of your information. 00:23:12.639 --> 00:23:13.149 Rachel Welch: Yeah. 00:23:13.149 --> 00:23:19.289 And I would say, my daughters are 14 and nine, and as they are entering the vast 00:23:19.289 --> 00:23:25.469 spaces of the internet and all the things we are teaching them very carefully, 00:23:25.469 --> 00:23:30.659 methodically to be safe, to doubt things, to vet their sources, like to really think 00:23:30.659 --> 00:23:32.519 before they allow things into their brain. 00:23:32.909 --> 00:23:36.269 I feel like our generation, we didn't have it. 00:23:36.509 --> 00:23:37.799 We didn't have smartphones. 00:23:37.829 --> 00:23:39.959 I was just telling them what microfiche was the other day. 00:23:41.369 --> 00:23:41.789 Candace Dellacona: Did they? 00:23:41.789 --> 00:23:43.139 Did they get it or not really? 00:23:43.244 --> 00:23:44.864 Rachel Welch: They thought it was fascinating. 00:23:44.864 --> 00:23:48.014 And my 9-year-old asked if we could get a microfiche machine. 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:50.669 Candace Dellacona: Actually, you probably could and you 00:23:50.669 --> 00:23:51.289 could probably get a bargain. 00:23:51.314 --> 00:23:53.324 Rachel Welch: Probably gonna, I was like, let's go to the library. 00:23:53.369 --> 00:23:53.759 Candace Dellacona: Yeah. 00:23:54.054 --> 00:23:57.894 Rachel Welch: It's like we have this really unique experience in our 00:23:57.894 --> 00:24:03.354 lifetime of pre-technology and using microfiche and doing good research 00:24:03.684 --> 00:24:09.364 all the way to this really crazy noisy overflowing world of information, getting 00:24:09.364 --> 00:24:12.394 assaulted all the time by opinion. 00:24:12.904 --> 00:24:16.504 And for us, we're learning this later in life. 00:24:16.804 --> 00:24:20.464 It's newer to us than it is to these kids who've never known anything else. 00:24:20.824 --> 00:24:24.034 And so we've got a learning curve to catch up to. 00:24:24.644 --> 00:24:26.834 At the beginning when social media was coming out, like 00:24:26.954 --> 00:24:28.184 it wasn't that big of a deal. 00:24:28.184 --> 00:24:33.099 We, I don't, I didn't like, put parameters around it for myself, I 00:24:33.099 --> 00:24:34.419 was like, oh, I'll go check Facebook. 00:24:34.469 --> 00:24:36.989 Now I am like, I'm diligent. 00:24:37.859 --> 00:24:41.519 I'm diligent about who I follow, what I allow on my feed, and I'm diligent about 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:43.109 what I look at and when I look at it. 00:24:43.764 --> 00:24:47.624 Candace Dellacona: And so even talking about those parameters and being 00:24:47.624 --> 00:24:50.174 diligent and finding the right resources. 00:24:50.864 --> 00:24:54.524 While you were talking, I was thinking those are also examples of self-care. 00:24:54.854 --> 00:25:00.794 You're making sure that the information you're allowing to seep into you 00:25:00.824 --> 00:25:04.424 to help make decisions is good information because you're worth it. 00:25:05.784 --> 00:25:11.214 And so putting the value on that and making sure that the data and that 00:25:11.604 --> 00:25:16.824 the medical people that you choose to be in your orbit are worthy to 00:25:16.824 --> 00:25:21.594 be in your orbit and making sure that those things are a priority. 00:25:21.844 --> 00:25:25.794 I think, one of the things that I love so much about Revolution Motherhood, 00:25:25.794 --> 00:25:30.694 and if we could talk a little bit about that amazing endeavor that you started. 00:25:31.174 --> 00:25:32.794 First of all, I love the title. 00:25:33.054 --> 00:25:33.619 Rachel Welch: Thank you. 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:37.089 Candace Dellacona: It's just really indicative of, about what the program is. 00:25:37.089 --> 00:25:43.319 And so when you found, this wide open space where, this information 00:25:43.319 --> 00:25:47.849 was really lacking, what was the most important thing for you when 00:25:47.849 --> 00:25:49.614 you started Revolution Motherhood? 00:25:52.639 --> 00:26:05.984 Rachel Welch: I would say it was the desire to help women who had lost all hope 00:26:06.764 --> 00:26:10.874 that they could really live vital lives. 00:26:12.074 --> 00:26:17.989 And I can't even describe or count how many women have showed up in my office. 00:26:18.769 --> 00:26:22.369 And I sit down and I look at them and I ask them how their 00:26:22.369 --> 00:26:24.469 bodies are and they fall apart. 00:26:24.994 --> 00:26:30.004 They just sob hysterically, it's like someone's finally asked, and 00:26:30.034 --> 00:26:35.254 the end of that sobbing is almost always I just, I don't think 00:26:35.254 --> 00:26:36.424 there's anything that can be done. 00:26:36.424 --> 00:26:37.864 I'm just in pain all the time. 00:26:38.914 --> 00:26:44.984 And, over the course of 60 or 90 minutes, we take our time. 00:26:45.074 --> 00:26:47.744 I listen to them, I listen to their bodies. 00:26:47.744 --> 00:26:49.124 I watch their bodies move. 00:26:49.124 --> 00:26:51.884 We find what does turn on and what does work. 00:26:53.174 --> 00:26:57.974 We chart a course to making the positive changes they didn't think were possible. 00:26:59.114 --> 00:27:03.524 And it's so much more than just getting strong and doing fitness. 00:27:03.524 --> 00:27:05.234 Fitness is a word, like self-care, right? 00:27:05.504 --> 00:27:06.344 Candace Dellacona: Yeah. 00:27:06.374 --> 00:27:07.634 Rachel Welch: so much more than that. 00:27:07.634 --> 00:27:09.284 It's about intentional living. 00:27:09.854 --> 00:27:12.209 And for me. 00:27:13.424 --> 00:27:16.994 This is my personal story, but my body's always been, I've been an 00:27:16.994 --> 00:27:21.554 athlete my whole life and it's how I've known myself, how I process myself. 00:27:21.554 --> 00:27:27.404 And for a woman, for other women who live like that, to have that, that 00:27:27.614 --> 00:27:31.844 like oasis taken away from them or threatened, it's so much more than, 00:27:31.934 --> 00:27:33.704 oh, my butt isn't tight anymore. 00:27:33.704 --> 00:27:35.174 I don't have a six pack anymore. 00:27:35.174 --> 00:27:37.154 And we're talking about a real loss of self. 00:27:37.964 --> 00:27:45.029 And so for me that was the real impetus was this isn't just about fitness, this 00:27:45.029 --> 00:27:48.539 is about teaching you how your body works, so you don't need to fear it anymore. 00:27:48.784 --> 00:27:49.074 Candace Dellacona: Yeah. 00:27:49.679 --> 00:27:54.059 Rachel Welch: And then from that, discovering the incredible joy that 00:27:54.059 --> 00:28:00.059 can be found and empowerment truly that can be discovered and accessed 00:28:00.509 --> 00:28:04.799 in making positive changes in your physical health and getting strong. 00:28:05.219 --> 00:28:05.519 Candace Dellacona: Yeah. 00:28:06.149 --> 00:28:06.869 I love that. 00:28:06.899 --> 00:28:11.589 The fact that, to your point, whether you're an athlete your whole life or you 00:28:11.589 --> 00:28:16.959 were someone who was in shape and you were more able bodied maybe than you are at 00:28:16.959 --> 00:28:23.009 the current time, there's so much identity and self-worth entangled into your 00:28:23.009 --> 00:28:25.409 physicality, especially in our society. 00:28:25.459 --> 00:28:30.889 For you to have created this platform, which is a soft place for people 00:28:30.889 --> 00:28:37.189 to land and creating a community from that, which is a big part 00:28:37.189 --> 00:28:39.709 of what Revolution Motherhood is. 00:28:39.709 --> 00:28:44.769 And I encourage people to check out the website because it really is a 00:28:44.769 --> 00:28:52.089 place where like-minded people look for vetted information, evidence-based 00:28:52.089 --> 00:28:59.884 information, and a sense of belonging and not being alone in their struggle. 00:29:00.424 --> 00:29:00.874 Rachel Welch: Yeah. 00:29:01.654 --> 00:29:02.254 Totally. 00:29:02.464 --> 00:29:06.554 I'll say like I, as a founder, I had an idea, I had a passion flash, I had a 00:29:06.554 --> 00:29:08.054 vision of what it was gonna be, right? 00:29:08.264 --> 00:29:10.454 And you never know what it's actually gonna become once it's 00:29:10.454 --> 00:29:12.044 put out into the organic world. 00:29:12.944 --> 00:29:15.104 This inner, we call it the inner circle. 00:29:15.184 --> 00:29:16.144 It blows me away. 00:29:16.194 --> 00:29:16.914 We've been on it all. 00:29:16.944 --> 00:29:20.724 We had a summer sweat club, so it was just like one of the groups they could join it 00:29:20.724 --> 00:29:22.014 if they wanted to, have accountability. 00:29:23.019 --> 00:29:27.429 And the women that come in there are like, I don't know, like how did you, 00:29:27.429 --> 00:29:30.639 like someone like posted that they worked out at 5:00 AM and someone else gets in. 00:29:30.639 --> 00:29:32.829 They're like, all right, tell me how you're getting up at 5:00 AM 00:29:32.829 --> 00:29:34.299 because I don't think I can do that. 00:29:34.299 --> 00:29:34.599 And blah. 00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:38.409 It's just like this constant community of Yes. 00:29:38.784 --> 00:29:43.344 Encouragement and hands on each other's back, like it's where we've removed. 00:29:43.344 --> 00:29:44.124 It's blown me away. 00:29:44.154 --> 00:29:48.024 It removes competition, it removes the judgment, it removes 00:29:48.444 --> 00:29:51.774 everything that kind of, we get the social media dusty bus, right? 00:29:51.774 --> 00:29:56.914 Like pits us against is each other, is like, it is such a safe and loving 00:29:56.914 --> 00:30:03.179 space where what unites us as women and mothers is what is strongest and loudest. 00:30:03.944 --> 00:30:07.304 And it is, I've said that actually for a long time is that what unites us as 00:30:07.304 --> 00:30:11.504 women is so much stronger than any of the distractions that would divide us. 00:30:11.984 --> 00:30:17.044 And when we come together in that group, we just like, we achieve mountains, right? 00:30:17.574 --> 00:30:21.464 So I'm, it's just it's been the best and it continues to grow. 00:30:21.464 --> 00:30:25.784 It continue, like obviously it's this growing community, but it continues to 00:30:25.784 --> 00:30:32.504 be this place where women are able to imagine for themselves something that 00:30:32.624 --> 00:30:37.244 could suddenly become possible that up until that point they had just written 00:30:37.244 --> 00:30:38.954 off as impossible for themselves. 00:30:39.194 --> 00:30:41.534 Whether that is getting in the best shape of their lives and getting 00:30:41.534 --> 00:30:42.974 a six pack for the first time. 00:30:42.974 --> 00:30:46.494 Or, running a marathon after you've had four kids because your 00:30:46.494 --> 00:30:47.844 pelvic floor has been blown out. 00:30:47.844 --> 00:30:53.844 Or literally just being able, getting out of such chronic pelvic pain 00:30:54.054 --> 00:30:56.754 that you can go to the playground and have fun with your kids. 00:30:57.334 --> 00:30:58.594 Candace Dellacona: That's the thing too, right? 00:30:58.594 --> 00:31:05.454 It's at every stage, and one of the great sort of guidance that you provide is that 00:31:05.634 --> 00:31:10.994 your body, you should expect your body to be different every single year, and that 00:31:10.994 --> 00:31:19.444 is okay and it should happen and that, every stage of life has its thing and 00:31:19.444 --> 00:31:22.054 that is just part of the aging process. 00:31:23.059 --> 00:31:24.229 Rachel Welch: A hundred percent. 00:31:24.229 --> 00:31:28.849 And I think two things I'd say to that is that one normalizing, just 00:31:28.849 --> 00:31:34.029 me saying out loud and normalizing a woman's internal experience really 00:31:34.029 --> 00:31:35.724 helps us off take a breath and relax. 00:31:36.569 --> 00:31:37.499 oh, okay. 00:31:38.009 --> 00:31:42.239 I'm not unique or alone or isolated or different or falling 00:31:42.239 --> 00:31:43.739 apart the way other women aren't. 00:31:43.919 --> 00:31:46.439 Your body will change every single year. 00:31:46.439 --> 00:31:49.979 Our bodies, this is one of the foundational principles of our 00:31:50.099 --> 00:31:53.279 fitness method is that it just over the course of one month. 00:31:54.344 --> 00:32:00.284 Your cycle, your abdominal wall, and the muscles that hold your abdominal wall 00:32:00.284 --> 00:32:05.744 from the front sides and back change shape, they relax, they don't respond as 00:32:05.744 --> 00:32:10.784 well, and then over the course of your cycle ending, they start to wake back up. 00:32:11.264 --> 00:32:15.044 So the layers of our tissues and the qualities of our tissues and 00:32:15.254 --> 00:32:19.634 our mind muscle connection, how our muscles respond or don't when we ask 00:32:19.634 --> 00:32:23.594 for strength, it changes just over the course of one menstrual cycle 00:32:23.984 --> 00:32:28.694 and not take that kind of circular experience and apply that over a decade. 00:32:28.724 --> 00:32:30.914 Apply that over menopause. 00:32:30.914 --> 00:32:35.384 Apply that over multiple childbirths and recoveries, and what you're getting 00:32:35.624 --> 00:32:43.124 is opportunities to continue to know yourself, to activate, to listen to, to 00:32:43.124 --> 00:32:44.744 find the muscles that have turned off. 00:32:45.524 --> 00:32:47.474 Not judge yourself about it. 00:32:47.474 --> 00:32:49.154 'cause it just is the nature of the beast. 00:32:49.634 --> 00:32:50.774 Activating them. 00:32:50.954 --> 00:32:54.884 And once we have a good strong activated muscle group, we can strength train them. 00:32:54.884 --> 00:32:59.594 And that's how we stay strong and vital through every life phase. 00:32:59.594 --> 00:33:03.944 Whether you're going into the changes of menopause and really needing to 00:33:03.944 --> 00:33:09.164 focus more on some weightlifting and strengthening and maintaining bone density 00:33:09.164 --> 00:33:11.774 and muscle mass, which is RM revive. 00:33:12.509 --> 00:33:16.259 Versus postnatal recovery and you gave birth five days ago and 00:33:16.259 --> 00:33:18.929 you're like, I just would like to be able to sit down without pain, 00:33:19.009 --> 00:33:20.599 we got you through all of it. 00:33:20.819 --> 00:33:25.409 And that's really where, it's that change that like we can just count on the body 00:33:25.589 --> 00:33:31.049 going through this cycle where I started to research well, what gets our tissues 00:33:31.049 --> 00:33:33.299 vital and that's fascial hydration. 00:33:33.329 --> 00:33:36.389 If I'm gonna get into some science, like we use this big soft foam ruler 00:33:36.389 --> 00:33:41.909 and we really tend to hydration and muscle tissue movement, meaning 00:33:42.059 --> 00:33:43.919 muscles have full range of motion. 00:33:44.129 --> 00:33:45.539 They're not stuck like this. 00:33:46.424 --> 00:33:50.084 Take that to your pelvic floor, your back, or anywhere else in your body, right? 00:33:50.294 --> 00:33:55.274 We get full functional ranges of motion, then we activate, then 00:33:55.274 --> 00:33:58.064 we strength train and integrate, and then we cross train you. 00:33:58.249 --> 00:33:58.599 Candace Dellacona: Right. 00:33:59.174 --> 00:34:03.614 Rachel Welch: And that is the magic sauce that just travels with you 00:34:04.034 --> 00:34:08.534 over a lifetime, that you're not just prenatal and then now you're postpartum. 00:34:08.534 --> 00:34:09.854 So you have to learn something all brand new. 00:34:10.394 --> 00:34:11.474 And now you're perimenopausal. 00:34:11.474 --> 00:34:13.754 You're just gotta learn something all brand new and go lift some weights, right. 00:34:13.804 --> 00:34:17.824 Candace Dellacona: And also, to your point is it's a journey and it's a 00:34:17.824 --> 00:34:24.904 journey that we are all, we are all worthy of going on and putting the time in. 00:34:25.444 --> 00:34:29.614 And so when you think of being in the sandwich generation and stuck 00:34:29.614 --> 00:34:34.304 in between and we've said this before that you are so much better. 00:34:34.664 --> 00:34:38.744 A better parent, a better daughter, a better sister, a better advocate. 00:34:38.774 --> 00:34:43.944 When you yourself have put the time in to know yourself and finding people like 00:34:43.944 --> 00:34:50.544 you, Rachel, who have done such a great job at creating a community and a place 00:34:51.414 --> 00:34:55.164 for resources that have been vetted. 00:34:55.554 --> 00:35:00.354 I think it's so important that our listeners think about community and 00:35:00.354 --> 00:35:05.504 find the community that helps them in the way that you're trying to, do that 00:35:05.504 --> 00:35:07.924 for us with Revolution Motherhood. 00:35:07.974 --> 00:35:09.624 'Cause it really is a revolution. 00:35:09.624 --> 00:35:15.394 We're demanding time and attention and medical expertise and we're, we should 00:35:15.394 --> 00:35:19.054 demand it for ourselves and we should demand it from the rest of the world. 00:35:19.589 --> 00:35:21.599 Rachel Welch: Yeah, it's a brand new narrative. 00:35:21.959 --> 00:35:29.199 And that narrative is being challenged constantly by the internal scripts, right? 00:35:29.529 --> 00:35:33.609 And so to have a community around you that, we've all done this for women, 00:35:33.609 --> 00:35:37.239 you get with your girlfriends and you're like, F me, I think I'm just drowning. 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:38.469 I can't do this anymore. 00:35:38.469 --> 00:35:40.499 And your girls are like, no, you got this. 00:35:41.084 --> 00:35:45.129 You're gonna go get a massage, go like, you know, 00:35:45.269 --> 00:35:46.709 Candace Dellacona: Or take a nap, whatever 00:35:46.709 --> 00:35:47.339 works. 00:35:47.684 --> 00:35:50.624 Rachel Welch: What is the self-care moment that is needed right now? 00:35:50.864 --> 00:35:51.614 You're worth it. 00:35:51.614 --> 00:35:56.924 And to have those like mirrors of support just pouring back on you all 00:35:56.924 --> 00:36:02.504 the time and to know you're safe, to be vulnerable there and to reveal that 00:36:02.504 --> 00:36:05.564 truth because that truth is ubiquitous. 00:36:05.564 --> 00:36:07.154 We are all experiencing it. 00:36:07.644 --> 00:36:10.824 I, I teach group experiences all the time. 00:36:10.824 --> 00:36:13.074 And I'll walk into a group cold. 00:36:13.074 --> 00:36:13.944 They don't know each other. 00:36:13.944 --> 00:36:14.724 They don't know me. 00:36:15.054 --> 00:36:18.924 And the second I open space for women to start to talk about 00:36:18.924 --> 00:36:20.724 themselves, it's immediate. 00:36:20.814 --> 00:36:21.464 It's just wait. 00:36:21.464 --> 00:36:22.094 You go through that? 00:36:22.094 --> 00:36:22.694 I go through that too. 00:36:22.694 --> 00:36:23.564 Wait, you did that too. 00:36:23.564 --> 00:36:24.104 I did that too. 00:36:24.134 --> 00:36:25.864 It's just oh my God, what a relief. 00:36:25.954 --> 00:36:27.004 I'm not alone. 00:36:27.229 --> 00:36:27.949 Candace Dellacona: I love that. 00:36:27.949 --> 00:36:34.344 And that is really, the purpose of this podcast is to really highlight for others 00:36:34.344 --> 00:36:39.534 the universality of this experience and sharing with each other the resources 00:36:39.534 --> 00:36:44.184 that help get us through so that maybe the people that follow behind us have 00:36:44.184 --> 00:36:47.994 a little bit of an easier path than we did, and really putting good into the 00:36:47.994 --> 00:36:53.184 world, which is exactly what you have done with Revolution Motherhood, and it was 00:36:53.274 --> 00:36:55.374 really a pleasure to have you, Rachel, 00:36:55.629 --> 00:36:56.259 Rachel Welch: Thank you. 00:36:56.434 --> 00:37:00.334 Candace Dellacona: I encourage our listeners to check it out and thank you 00:37:00.334 --> 00:37:05.014 for all that you have done to try to bring the narrative to the forefront 00:37:05.074 --> 00:37:06.694 and make sure that we are valued. 00:37:07.309 --> 00:37:10.069 Rachel Welch: Oh God, it's my privilege truly, besides having 00:37:10.069 --> 00:37:11.299 my daughters, it's my privilege. 00:37:12.529 --> 00:37:17.959 And thank you for creating and generating this platform because this is how, 00:37:18.349 --> 00:37:23.359 it's by sharing our stories and sharing these resources that we imagine. 00:37:23.719 --> 00:37:27.049 And are allowed to imagine a different reality and a different narrative. 00:37:27.139 --> 00:37:32.099 So the more we fill the space with good noise and good information, the better. 00:37:32.099 --> 00:37:32.719 So thank much. 00:37:32.984 --> 00:37:33.424 Candace Dellacona: Cheers to that. 00:37:33.524 --> 00:37:34.124 Yes. 00:37:34.154 --> 00:37:34.924 Thanks again.