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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Hey, welcome to the

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Bible guys. What oops? I
am Chris and I'm Jeff. Yes,

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and so today we realized that on
yesterday's podcast we didn't actually do the segment.

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Yeah, we totally blew it off
because what I was trying to do

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is I was trying to fill in
the gaps of this chapter that we skipped

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over. Yeah, and we talked
about people living for a long time,

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and then it got us right into
the story's so exciting. We just got

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we just got pulled away. And
so yeah, you want to do both

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segments. Yeah, otherwise let's do
it really fast. Okay, very fast.

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So social media minute. There's three
of them. I'm gonna read the

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first one. This is yesterday's segment. Beth V. Wrote in and Sabeth

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just want to tell you both that
I really enjoy watching you guys. Your

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friendship is so genuine and it's fun
to watch you guys laugh together and everything

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else you do to bless us listeners. Thank you, that's nice. It's

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all a show. We don't like
you to that's right, that's exactly correct.

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Number two, I wanted to thank
you. This is from Zach Bhi.

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Zach, I wanted to thank you
for taking the extra time to share

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your wonderful insight and stories with us. Your explanations have certainly helped me to

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understand some of the more confusing concepts
in the Bible. That's that's awesome.

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Yeah, that's the whole goal.
That's right, that's right. Yeah.

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Number three it comes from Aaron,
who says love my daily dose of Christ

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and of course Jeff of course,
of course, Jeff, of course,

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Jeff, Yes, of Chris and
of course Jeff. Yes, thank you

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Aaron. You guys can make learning
the Bible so cool and relatable. Thank

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you, Aaron. Cool. Yeah, boy, spent a long time since

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I've been called cool. No,
no, no, she didn't say that.

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She said the Bible, learning about
the Bibles, we make the Bible

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cool and relatable, cool and related. She said absolutely nothing. I want

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you to hear this clearly. Yes, she said nothing about you being okay,

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well, thank you Aaron, saying
that we helped the Bible be more.

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That's right, that's right. And
by the way, yeah, no,

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no, her days and of course, yes, Jeff, Yes,

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that's really the emphasis. Well,
it's the emphasis. It is the Chris.

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It could be a period there,
but it's a comma pencis and you

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know also Jeff two of course,
of course, yep, that's awesome.

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Okay, So thank you guys.
So there you go. That's Beth,

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Zach and Aaron you. So we're
gonna squeeze in two segments since we skip

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yesterday, okay, and so this
is a very quick segment, and it

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is a simple question called story time. And the question is this, this

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is funny. If you were in
Noah's place and you had to take two

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of every kind of animal into the
arc? Would there be any animals that

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you would say no to? Oh? Absolutely, if I have a choice,

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how about you? First of all, no, I didn't have a

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choice. Let's be clear about it, right right, God told him all

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of them. But you could,
like, hey, could I suggest just

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yes if no, we're you know, compromise and say do I have a

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say in this? Who would I
say no to? Well, definitely mosquitoes,

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that's my top yes, top of
my list, yes, mosquite.

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And then I think some animals like
you know, like I know spiders are

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important, but are they really that
important? They're scary? Yeah, and

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that like the brown recluse spider,
Like, can we just do without that

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one? That'd be bad. All
the poisonous ones, yes, yeah,

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or the poisonous frogs, although they
don't affect me. Oh Ana condas you

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get rid of they affect you.
So you said you said, you said

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poisons frogs, Well, they don't
affect me, Ana condas, like you

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just thought of a thing that affects
Thinking of everybody else in the world,

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jess, all the people who get
people try to go to the river,

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they try to get a drink,
or the animals, the poor animals,

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and then here comes this Anacona coming
up and just wrapping around everybody. You've

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watched too many movies? Yeah,
well, okay, have you ever seen

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the movie Anaconda? No, with
John Voight and Jennifer Lopez. I don't

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believe I have. It's it's so
bad that it's good. Okay, Yes,

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I have not seen it. Yeah, well, so I was gonna

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say mosquitos, Yes, mosquitoes drive
from nuts and I know that you know

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bats feed on mosquitoes. Yeah,
so there's an issue there, But I

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don't know. Well, then I
have no other animals that I wouldn't bring.

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I like them all. Really.
Yeah. Yeah, I'm not a

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big fan of the poisonous snakes,
but I think they're necessary. Okay,

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Yeah, why are they necessary?
Because they get rid of rodents? Okay,

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and you know you can't have too
many rodents because rodents carry so much

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disease. Man, let's just get
them all. Let's get rid of the

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rodents, the poisonous snakes, and
the mosquitoes, and and then bats.

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Oh well, how about that?
Oh well, you know, it'd be

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interesting to see how our ecosystem would
break down if if like that many things

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were removed from Yeah. Yeah,
we're literally playing god here on this one,

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aren't we. Yeah, because everything's
so interconnected. So the answer ultimately

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to that question, Desiree is no, I would not say no to anything

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because because we don't have one.
If I could pick one, if I

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could pick one, I would still
make mosquitoes, and then you would kill

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us all. I would I would
risk it off. You would kill us

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all because who knows how this world
would be effective? That's right, that's

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right. But all of a sudden, bats would die down and then all

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of a sudden, you have these
bigger animals, and little you know,

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it would lead all like the lions
and bees. Yeah, probably run in.

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The humans would die. It's probably
it you kill the planet. Okay,

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all right then, no, no, I don't want to kill everybody

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on the planet. No, that's
not what you said. Okay, you're

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right. Yeah. Hey, well
they're starting over at this point, dude,

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that is true that they're starting over
with God's creations safe in the boat.

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Yeah, but maybe maybe God could
figure out how to do it a

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different way next time. God,
do your job better. No, no,

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no, no, no, fast
No. I did not say that

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he's he's doing fine without my input. This just lightning strikes podcast. Yeah,

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no, he's doing fine without my
input. Okay, Okay, that

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was a good segment. We squeezed
two in and the same amount of time

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that we would normally done one.
Hey, two for the price. Yeah,

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sorry about yesterday segment, lovers,
Yes, that's right. Okay,

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Well, today we're continuing on.
As we mentioned, almost everything in the

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Bible is established in some form in
the first eleven chapters the Book of Genesis,

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so we're kind of moving slowly first
through these first several chapters. That's

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fine, yeah, absolutely. Genesis
chapter seven, verse one says, when

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everything was ready, the Lord said
to Noah, go into the boat with

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all your family, For among all
the people on the earth, I can

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see that you alone are righteous.
Take with you seven pairs male and female

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of each animal I've approved for eating
and for sacrifice, and take one pair

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of each of the others. Also, take seven pairs of every kind of

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bird. There must be a male
and a female in each pair, to

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ensure that all life will survive on
the earth after the flood. Seven days

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from now, I will make the
rains pour down on the earth, and

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it will rain for forty days and
forty nights until I've wiped from the earth

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all the living things I've created.
So Noah did everything as the Lord come

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on. And Noah was six hundred
years old when the flood covered the earth.

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He went on board the boat to
escape the flood. He and his

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wife, and his sons and their
wives. With them were all the various

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kinds of animals, those approved for
eating and for sacrifice and those that were

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not, along with all the birds
and the small animals that scurry along the

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ground. They entered the boat in
pairs male and female, just as God

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had commanded Noah. After seven days, the waters of the flood came and

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covered the earth. When Noah was
six hundred years old, on the seventeenth

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day of the second month, all
the underground waters erupted from the earth and

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the rain fell in mighty torrents from
the sky. The rain continued to fall

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for forty days and forty nights.
That very day, Noah had gone into

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the boat with his wife and his
sons shem Hem and Jayfath, and their

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wives. Do I stop there,
No, because we're picking up in verse

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number seventeen, So you can go
to seventeen. I go to seventeen.

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Yes. With them in the boat
repairs of every kind of animal, domestic

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and wild, large and small,
along with birds of every kind. Two

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by two, they came into the
boat, representing every living thing that breathes.

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A male and a female of each
kind entered, just as God had

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commanded Noah. Then the Lord closed
the door behind them. There you go,

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we got some bonus verses. Yeah, here we did. And so

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with them. With them in the
boat were pairs of every kind of animal

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domestic in large, wild and small, two by two, they came into

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the boat. So they so the
animals came by themselves, that's correct,

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which means God brought the animals to
know, which means he wasn't some sort

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of like, h did you ever
like see a dog catcher with a big

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net on the cartoons? They run
around they're trying to what was that crocodile

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guy? What was that crocodile guy? Uh? Oh, Steve Irwin,

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Steve Irwin. Yeah, going out
there catching catching animals all the day.

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That's not that's not what Noah was
doing. God sent them. Yeah.

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And and so there's it's interesting that
he talked about seven pairs of the ones

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for sacrifice. So here's what this
means. Seven pairs of every bird,

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every kind of bird, every kind
of bird. Yes, and and and

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anyway, I just wanted to not
pass over the fact that for those forty

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days, Noah still was not what
what's the word I'm looking for? He

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was not exempt from his sacrifice and
his worship to godst right. So here

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he's going through the storm, and
yet he continues to worship God. Well,

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you know that there's a sermon in
there somewhere where you know, during

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the storms in our lives were not
exempt from from worshiping God. So Noah's

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experiencing, quite honestly, the most
horrific event physically in human history in terms

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of you know, weather and and
tragedy and destruction and cataclysm, the whole

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thing, and yet he is still
required to worship God and practice sacrifice.

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And so it's a good reminder for
all of us that in the worst times

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of our lives, when tragedy strikes
and when things are hectic around us and

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there's a storm going on, that
you know, one of the best things

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that we can make a priority for
is to continue to lean on and trust

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in and worship the God of the
storm. Yeah, well that's good.

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Yeah, Well, let's just wrap
up right there. That was a great

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one. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, and then and then it

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says seven days from now, and
then it goes on to say that he

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was six hundred years old. Well, here's what most scholars believe is that

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it says before that he was five
hundred years old when he had his kids,

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and then he was given instruction,
and so now it says he's six

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hundred years old, which means that
most scholars believe that it took him one

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hundred years to build this boat.
So if it was just him and his

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family building the boat, that would
actually make sense, wouldn't It makes sense

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to me. Yeah, like we're
talking like pulleys and levers. Well,

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it's all woods. So they got
to go do the logging. Yeah,

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they got to build this structure,
support this structure. They got to make

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the you know, it's not like
they had nails and all those kinds of

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things, so they would have had
to make everything that held it all together.

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They'd have to make the tar,
just everything. It would have taken

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so long. I mean, it's
mammothist. What did it say. It's

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four hundred and fifty feet long,
seventy five feet wide, forty five feet

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high. So for those of us
who try to measure something that big,

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the only thing that we can probably
get our minds around is a football field,

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yeah, which is three hundred feet
So it's a football field in the

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half, Yes, which is pretty
crazy. Yes, with the width of

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a football field, and then three
stories high, three stories high, but

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it's higher than three stories. But
there's three levels, right, So a

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story typically is figured out at ten
feet, so this is four and a

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half stories high, but there's only
three levels, so God gave high ceilings

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in each of those, probably for
draft and for you know, breathability,

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breathability and not to mention, you
know, we don't know what it was

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like birds flying around? Yeah?
Right, so yeah, so this idea

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that you know, let's answer this
question. Okay, could all the animals

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physically? Is it possible for all
the kinds of animals to fit in an

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arc? Yeah? So estimates and
this isn't life application study Bible too,

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but I've read this before. The
estimates are that almost forty five thousand animals

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could fit in the arc comfortably.
Right. You'd have to be able to

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feed them during that time, right, So if you had juvenile animals specifically,

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you could easily contain forty to fifty
thousand animals in there. Then the

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Bible says it's animals of every kind, which is a differentiation from every species.

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So you and I, right before
this show started, it dawned on

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me that the Bible keeps talking about
kind. But we asked, We asked

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Chat GPT, how many you know, Well, you asked Siri, didn't

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you, Sis? Yeah, you
asked Siri, I asked Chat GBT,

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and they said between seven and eight
million species are on the planet right,

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right. But then I was trying
to get it to differentiate between because I

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asked how many kinds of animals around
a planet? Right, and chat GBT

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responded back to me there are eight
million species. And I said, well,

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differentiate between species and kind. And
it wanted to give me this technical

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answer, scientific answer for species,
but then said the term kind is unscientific,

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and I said, clarify it.
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kind of a scientific answer species being
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You know, one bird has a
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a smaller beak. Those are two
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right right now. One has you
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others have white feathers on the shoulders, same same kind of bird. It's

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just two different species. There's subspecies. So when I talked about eight million

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species, it's talking about all the
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kinds. But the reality is,
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There are lots of species we would
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of dogs, But ultimately it would
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dogs and some wolves could create virtually
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right through breeding, through the creating
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kind in the Bible is those animals
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and cats can't breed with each other, right, so those would be two

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different kinds. So I wouldn't need
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wolf and a rottweiler, And I
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would just need the dogs that would
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It would be the same thing with
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right those things. So then it's
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don't need all eight million species on
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then with all of the extinctions,
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million species on the planet. Yeah, so it says there's six types of

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animals. This is what which would
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in those CAUs there's mammals, there's
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and insects. Yeah, so the
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know, they could fly above and
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or maybe they're flying inside the arc. Now keep in mind, the good

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news is all the fish could live
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it didn't have to have any fish
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that's one of the six kinds completely
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hundred types of species of mammals is
what it says. So it's it's interesting

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if the arc can hold would you
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so that would give you twenty two
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yes, yeah, so it's it's
it is definitely feasible. And I think

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also I remember this actually as a
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and this is way before the arc
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back then we had this genesis expert
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we're dinosaurs on the arc, and
then you know, all these all

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these different types of things. But
because he was a genesis expert, he

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actually said, not only were all
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capable of reproducing all the animals that
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He said, believe it or not, there's actually extra room, which

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is crazy. But if you really
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out with. Well, if you
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different kinds of cows on the planet, and then understand the reality is we

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only need two cows can make all
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you just do that with all the
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know, I told you I was
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forth about kinds, and it didn't
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argue species. So then I finally
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that while there are millions of species, there are only thousands of kinds of

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animals? And finally I said,
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generally true if kind is interpreted it
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which is exactly what I was trying
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a more general similarities such as basic
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characteristics, it's plausible to conclude that
there are thousands of kinds of as opposed

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to millions of species, and it
reflects a less grand more generalized way of

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classifying living organisms, which naturally leads
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and I believe you know, again, answers and Genesis would say that

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there was plenty of room on the
arc, plenty of room for living space,

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plenty of room for all of the
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you know, one barn of animals. It creates a tremendous amount of

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waste. Sure, but you also
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right, that would be your whole
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saws for the whole you know year
or so that a little longer that you

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were in the ark. And I
think that there was enough food. There

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was enough space for food. If
you look at how huge is this millions

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of square feet of space right,
it's thousands, tens of thousands of square

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feet of space. Make it very
plausible that there was plenty of room for

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the food, for the living space, and for being able to haul all

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of these animals a time. So
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Again, I believe in a creator, and so I don't think that

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this is an impossible thing. And
then the Bible says that literally the rain

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came from above and below and below, which we don't really often think about,

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right, but it said all the
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What does to say exactly says all
the underground waters erupted from the earth,

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right, and the rain fell in
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sky. So that's pretty crazy.
It came from below and above. Yeah,

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so estimates show when you melt up
polarized caps completely and that there is

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enough water in the oceans that depending
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you level out some of the depths
through earthquakes and cracks and things like that,

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there's enough water in the oceans to
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planet. So you got to remember, through earthquakes, through tectonic shifts,

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the trenches get deeper, the mountains
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But if you leveled those out a
little bit, there's there's enough water

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to cover the entire planet. And
so the Bible talks about it coming from

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underneath and from above, and when
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why we have to have the ice
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because of that, and so it's
it's I think very plausible. The math

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works. So while the Bible is
not a science book, I can't find

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anything that is contrary to a plausible
scientific response in the Bible like that.

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But the world can't find, right, the world can't find if they just

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have to disagree, but they can't
show proof opposite. That's right, because

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if if it could have been disproven
scientifically, like contradictory to science or physics

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or laws of nature, gravity or
impossibilities outside of the miracle, right in

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the Bible, outside of the miracles, because obviously miracles are miracles, right,

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But if it could have been disproven, it would have been Why because

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thousands, if not hundreds of thousands
of people have you know, spent you

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know, maybe even up to their
very lives trying to disprove the Bible,

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and none have succeeded, right,
which is great. So again, well,

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it's not a scientific book. I've
never found it to be inconsistent with

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anything it says about science. From
the six days of creation in exactly the

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right order for life to exist on
a planet, to even this there.

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It's plausible that the entire planet could
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And then it's amazing. After this
flood, life shortens, life longer

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when all that water was in the
atmosphere before, Life less, now shorter.

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So in every area it makes sense
to me. It's not a big

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leap, especially when you believe that
there's a creator. So I think you

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can look at these these accounts and
with confidence go, yeah, I totally

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believe it. The world will beat
down on these stories because they can't disprove

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them, so they just try to
make you feel bad about them, and

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I'm like, Nope, I wear
it like a badge of honor. I

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totally believe it. So during the
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you would have to assume it doesn't
talk about it, but you would

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have to assume that people would be
asking questions, what are you doing,

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and he's saying, Oh, there's
going to be this great rain that comes

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down now. Some people say this
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first rain ever. Maybe there's no

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ink was said that during the in
the garden there was no rain. It

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literally says that at the beginning not
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right, and that the water it
was watered from the dew. Yeah.

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Right, So this idea, that's
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rain, then I imagine that crazy
story, water is going to fall from

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this side this guy. So Noah
doesn't have a single convert. There's not

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a single family that said, I
believe, let me jump into the arc

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with you. So I mean they
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I can't even imagine that, you
know, scenario or scene of people

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wanting to get into the arc.
Let's not even go there with our brains.

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But the idea, though, is
that not a single person, you

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know, believed enough? Apparently because
one hundred years of building an arcs a

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long time for questions. Yeah.
Hebrews eleven says that Noah warned the people

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there. It is right. I
knew there was a no convict clause because

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it was by faith that Noah built
a large boat to save his family from

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the flood. He obeyed God,
who warned him about things that had never

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happened before. By his faith,
Noah condemned the rest of the world,

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and he received the righteousness that comes
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Yep, there you go. That's
great. Well, hey, that

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looks like our time, so we
will continue this epic flood story next time

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on the Bible. Guys,