1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,980 Unknown: Goes back to the writing. You know, the King of 2 00:00:01,980 --> 00:00:05,220 Queens are really good writers, and Seinfeld is good writers. 3 00:00:05,220 --> 00:00:07,620 And it's hard to develop good writers in today's world, 4 00:00:07,620 --> 00:00:10,380 because not too many people want to sit in front of a computer, 5 00:00:10,380 --> 00:00:12,780 look at a blank screen and then take criticism for 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,740 it. This is the rich Redmond show, ladies and gentlemen, 7 00:00:21,060 --> 00:00:24,260 here we are live at the rich Redmond show. Listen 8 00:00:24,260 --> 00:00:26,780 to that door. That's baritone. Where are 9 00:00:26,780 --> 00:00:29,120 we? Again, that's nice. We are in Spring Hill, Tennessee, 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:29,660 spring where 11 00:00:29,660 --> 00:00:32,960 you live here. See, I don't live here. I live in St Louis. Okay, 12 00:00:33,020 --> 00:00:36,620 I live everywhere. Lately. I'm like, all over North Hollywood, 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,540 yeah, St Louis, St Louis. And 14 00:00:38,540 --> 00:00:41,120 you made the five hour trek in today with with your friends. 15 00:00:41,180 --> 00:00:43,660 You got Chris and mark in the house. That's is here 16 00:00:43,780 --> 00:00:48,520 for Chris and Mark. Here we go. All right, as we previously 17 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,340 mentioned, my hair is I'm losing my hair lately. I'm going with 18 00:00:51,340 --> 00:00:55,120 these different items here, like taking the hems. Oh, 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,460 how's the hymns working? I don't know. I started like, you gotta 20 00:00:57,460 --> 00:00:58,420 wait about 90 days, 21 00:00:58,420 --> 00:01:00,540 right? Yeah, we see the difference. And now we got the 22 00:01:00,540 --> 00:01:04,860 other stuff. Eta Durham is shampoo. It's, I don't know if 23 00:01:04,860 --> 00:01:07,800 it's working or not, but I give it a go, and I get this other 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,200 stuff, give it a go, and then a doctor gave me this other pill. 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,080 Give that a go. Yeah. But, you know, losing the hand you get 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,960 your finasteride, and that's very difficult for us Italians 27 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:20,040 as part of our our thing is that we want a nice head of hair as 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,940 we're chowing down on a nice plate of pasta 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,060 like now. I'm just glad my hammer still works. So that's 30 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:30,020 all right, man. I mean, be it Italian, you know, you got your 31 00:01:30,020 --> 00:01:32,600 hair, but you got your hammer too. Yeah, got the hammer to 32 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,140 work. So if I had a choice, I'd lose the hair, keep the hammer. 33 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,300 Yeah, that's true. You can 34 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,720 always shave your head. You get Oh, yeah. 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:47,380 And little limiting for for parts, yeah, you know, because 36 00:01:47,380 --> 00:01:48,220 then you're that guy, 37 00:01:48,220 --> 00:01:50,260 you're the bald guy, right? You're the ball guy, right? 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,640 Worked out for Michael Chiklis. 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,980 It worked great for Bruce Willis, you know, for the most 40 00:01:53,980 --> 00:01:57,280 part, yeah, he did guide, right? Hey, Michael Chiklis is another 41 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,040 cat that plays the drums, and let's just get this out. The 42 00:02:02,220 --> 00:02:04,680 elephant in the room is that there are so many drummers here. 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,880 Larry smashes a set of drums. Jim smashes a set of drums eyes. 44 00:02:09,180 --> 00:02:11,820 And it's later. We got, I passed out some hand drums. We got some 45 00:02:11,820 --> 00:02:17,280 L we got an LP set of tabletop bongos. We got an old toca, like 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,300 a, it's like a portable cojone. And then I got this little 47 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:23,060 sonar, and all these things are pretty time tested. They've been 48 00:02:23,060 --> 00:02:25,460 on a lot of recordings. But we're gonna just jam, man. We'll 49 00:02:25,460 --> 00:02:27,800 just do them, pull a McCarthy later, and we'll do a little 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,320 jam. When you say, pull him a kind, Hey, what is that? Because 51 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,740 he likes to play his bongos in the in the nude. Oh, you know, 52 00:02:33,740 --> 00:02:36,260 that's his thing. It taps into his primal 53 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:38,600 that's his only fans. 54 00:02:38,660 --> 00:02:41,620 That's just, that's crazy. Yeah, they were talking about doing 55 00:02:41,620 --> 00:02:44,860 only fans to people like, oh, you can't do an only fan. Just 56 00:02:44,860 --> 00:02:47,680 good for girls with, you know, this daddy out of Dang, I'm 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:47,860 like, 58 00:02:47,860 --> 00:02:50,440 only music fans, right? 59 00:02:52,060 --> 00:02:56,440 The impetus of that site was more of a pure approach, sure, 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,380 and for your fans, yeah, you know. And then it just went a 61 00:02:59,380 --> 00:03:00,420 different direction. Well, I 62 00:03:00,420 --> 00:03:04,320 think our friend, I got to watch it. But, you know, the drum 63 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,460 icon, Russ Miller has a new site called, I think it's called only 64 00:03:08,460 --> 00:03:12,540 Drum Fans. And I'm like, You are smart. That's a very smart 65 00:03:12,540 --> 00:03:12,960 thing. You know, 66 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,020 I'm going to look up right now, as we're talking to see if fans 67 00:03:16,020 --> 00:03:17,040 only is available. 68 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,080 Fans only just flip it, flip it, just flip it. A new venture. 69 00:03:21,260 --> 00:03:24,020 Make it like the Christian do only fans, which I'm not going 70 00:03:24,020 --> 00:03:26,300 to, like, take my clothes off. I'm going to put music up on 71 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:28,760 there, because that's what it was supposed to do, yeah, 72 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,580 basically, Patreon, rights. Patreon, right? I'm going on 73 00:03:31,580 --> 00:03:34,160 Patreon too. It's like, you know, we talk about musicians, 74 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:38,540 because nowadays it's like, you put a song up on a streaming 75 00:03:38,540 --> 00:03:41,260 and, you know, we don't get paid, as if we don't have to 76 00:03:41,260 --> 00:03:44,560 eat, like, fractions, fractions of a penny. Yeah, it's nonsense. 77 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,900 So, like, I'm thinking, like, okay, so we cut this great 78 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:50,020 track, God bless America. Yeah, tell us about, well, tell us 79 00:03:50,020 --> 00:03:52,600 about that. Well, I had this thing inside me, man, you know, 80 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,780 like, okay, really, it wasn't like the Irvin Berlin version, 81 00:03:55,780 --> 00:03:58,180 you know what? I mean, it was just that thing, you know, God 82 00:03:58,180 --> 00:04:01,620 bless America. You know, you drive across America, and I'm 83 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,020 going here and there, and, like, yeah, you know, there's so many 84 00:04:04,020 --> 00:04:07,260 beautiful places in America, so many different kinds of really 85 00:04:07,260 --> 00:04:11,280 cool people, you know, especially coming New York and 86 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,820 Los Angeles and St Louis and Nashville and Chicago. And we 87 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:17,280 meet a lot of great people, all these little and you go on tour, 88 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:19,680 you meet a lot of really cool people. Man, it's like, you 89 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,760 know, and America's coming under fire, and whatever, everybody, 90 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,640 whatever, so on and so forth. We know what the temperature is 91 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,060 and, and it's like, no, man, you know. Like, this is like, you 92 00:04:29,060 --> 00:04:31,220 know. So I had this thing I wanted to do, like, with 93 00:04:31,220 --> 00:04:33,740 guitars, because, you know, I like guitars, yeah, you know. 94 00:04:33,740 --> 00:04:36,800 And then, like, you know, I'm banging on drums. I call them 95 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,320 the bongos. No matter what it could be a trap set. It could be 96 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,460 whatever it's, the bongos, yeah, in the bongos. And like, you 97 00:04:42,460 --> 00:04:45,520 know, come up with this thing. And next thing, you know, you 98 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,280 know, how it went, is that, you know, with these cats down to 99 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:51,340 Illinois, right? And it was like, you know, they jam out. 100 00:04:51,340 --> 00:04:53,980 And, like, I brought it to them, and we, like, finagle doing it a 101 00:04:53,980 --> 00:04:56,680 little bit, yeah, which you heard a little bit of that, you 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,800 know. And then it was like, coming, like, what are we going 103 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,240 to. Do like, and then Michael goodnight says, Yo, why don't we 104 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,660 get rich to lay the drums? And it's like, yeah, right, let's do 105 00:05:06,660 --> 00:05:09,060 that. And next thing, you know, like, Michael goodnight, is the 106 00:05:09,060 --> 00:05:12,300 guy to introduce me and rich, right? What's up? Michael, Mike, 107 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:15,060 he did the score for Saturday, you know, park the movie which 108 00:05:15,060 --> 00:05:17,640 rich plays the drums on, you know, a whole bunch of stuff. 109 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:22,160 Post the trailer, whatever. So now it's like, we're on zoom 110 00:05:22,940 --> 00:05:23,840 with you 111 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,380 over there, Tony Morris, place downtown. Battery, yeah, 112 00:05:27,380 --> 00:05:29,840 and you're doing the drums, and me and Michael in North 113 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:32,840 Hollywood, California. Technology, technology is good 114 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:35,960 is it's not the greatest thing in the world, but it is good. It 115 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:37,940 works for like, it's got its place, right? It's like 116 00:05:37,940 --> 00:05:41,260 everything else. And next thing you know, we got this great drum 117 00:05:41,260 --> 00:05:45,100 track that you went off of a drum track like I recorded 118 00:05:45,100 --> 00:05:48,340 myself at amp rehearsal in North Hollywood on my cell phone. Is 119 00:05:48,340 --> 00:05:51,160 that where you were? Yeah, and sent it to you, and then blah, 120 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,680 blah, blah. And next thing, you know, you laid a kick ass drum 121 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:58,060 track. And I tried to work it out with this other cat who just 122 00:05:58,060 --> 00:06:01,200 took it in a total different direction, yeah, you know. And I 123 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,960 was like, bro, it's not happening, man. He got a little 124 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,020 offended, but he's a great musician, great creative guy. 125 00:06:07,260 --> 00:06:10,200 I'm like, bro, just ain't hitting man. And I ended up 126 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,220 bringing it over and sending it to Derek in St Peter's, 127 00:06:14,280 --> 00:06:17,340 Missouri, which is St Peter, st, Louis, st, Charles. A lot of 128 00:06:17,340 --> 00:06:20,600 saints in that area. I'm not going to say I'm one of them, 129 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,260 but no, 130 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:26,600 okay, so Larry, it really was a, it was a creative it was a 131 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,220 creative process. 132 00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:31,700 Oh, yeah, really straight up. And it's like, it's like, went 133 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:35,240 from this to that to that, next thing, you know, you know, with 134 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,140 your drum track. Yeah, we were at the Ozarks, and we took your 135 00:06:39,140 --> 00:06:43,540 drum track, sent it to Derek in St Peter's, and I went from the 136 00:06:43,540 --> 00:06:46,600 Ozarks with these guys, Mark and Chris, drove all the way up in 137 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,180 an electric car, which means you have to stop and get charged 138 00:06:49,180 --> 00:06:51,760 every now and then. It's not easy to get charged as it is to 139 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,580 just go pump petrol in the sucker. I know it's less 140 00:06:54,580 --> 00:06:58,180 expensive and it's quiet and all of that stuff, but like, it's 30 141 00:06:58,180 --> 00:07:00,520 minutes we're sitting there. Like, what's going on, man? 142 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,820 Like, you know, I mean, it's like an old, like an old flip 143 00:07:02,820 --> 00:07:05,340 phone. You got to charge it, right? So, next thing you know, 144 00:07:06,420 --> 00:07:10,320 I'm a Derek's and we got your drum track, and I just laid a 145 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,760 vocal to your drum track. Yep. And then Derek went to, went, 146 00:07:14,820 --> 00:07:19,560 went to California, yeah, with a hard drive. No, not even, like, 147 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,340 he just went to California because he wanted to go see his 148 00:07:22,340 --> 00:07:25,400 mom, which is cool. So, like, he's in California, and then I 149 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,980 don't even know where I was at that point in time, I guess I 150 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:30,260 was in New York, and we're trying to figure out how to do 151 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:32,540 this. And he's like, Oh, we got a couple of them on a Monday 152 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:35,300 night. Plane lands at eight o'clock, and we're going to, you 153 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:38,780 know, go to the studio. We're going to lay drums and guitar 154 00:07:38,780 --> 00:07:42,040 and bass, you know. And, okay, cool, because Chris over here, 155 00:07:42,220 --> 00:07:46,180 he's got, what's the name of a saw horse. He's got sawhorse 156 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,380 booked for July 2. So we got to get everything in order. So 157 00:07:50,380 --> 00:07:53,800 Derek, to his credit, get delayed. Plane gets in at like, 158 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,740 one o'clock in the morning. Saw another friend of ours at the 159 00:07:56,740 --> 00:08:00,220 airport, Savannah Lee, who her plane was delayed like 11 hours, 160 00:08:00,220 --> 00:08:03,420 where she was going, which is a whole other journey. And she's 161 00:08:03,420 --> 00:08:06,540 super talented too. That's how I met Chris through Savannah Lee. 162 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:10,320 And she's got some good music coming out too. You'll be on the 163 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,920 lookout for her, right? And now, so now Derek and her actually 164 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,520 crossed paths in the airport in St Louis. What a coincidence, 165 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,440 right? Derek goes home. I don't know what he did anyhow, the 166 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,200 next morning I show up at his house, he's got bass and guitar 167 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,500 already dropped to your drums, yeah, and we did 168 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:29,960 this whole thing over the internet, and I do today, I do 169 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,540 want to listen to it, Larry, and I appreciate you asking me to 170 00:08:32,540 --> 00:08:34,940 play drums. And I think it's super funky. It's almost like, 171 00:08:34,940 --> 00:08:38,180 it's kind of like, you know, like tone, Loke, you know, 172 00:08:38,180 --> 00:08:41,560 hanging out with fish bone, hanging out with Run DMC, big 173 00:08:41,560 --> 00:08:45,700 guitars, but people are probably gonna know who is this guy with 174 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:48,280 the cool shades, and let's just tell everybody. Hailing from 175 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,100 Mount Vernon, New York, he's called Los Angeles home for a 176 00:08:51,100 --> 00:08:54,280 long time now. Calling St Louis home. He's coming to Nashville 177 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,100 more and more. He's a film and TV actor, writer and producer. 178 00:08:57,220 --> 00:09:00,300 He's also a singer songwriter, producer, and he wrote and 179 00:09:00,300 --> 00:09:03,540 directed a new film called Saturday in the park that we 180 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,020 both kind of collaborated on. It's going to drop sometime this 181 00:09:07,020 --> 00:09:11,100 year in 2024 we're super excited about that. It's sort of a film 182 00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:13,380 festival film, a very, very, very cool we're going to see a 183 00:09:13,380 --> 00:09:16,080 clip from it. But just as an actor, look at some of these 184 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,560 credits. King of Queens, Donnie Brasco, thin, red line. NYPD, 185 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:23,240 blue. CSI, New York, LA law lockup, he's worked with actors 186 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:26,840 like Bucha no Depp, Sean Penn, Mickey Rourke, Madonna 187 00:09:27,020 --> 00:09:30,740 Sylvester, Stallone, highly accomplished, and our friend, 188 00:09:30,740 --> 00:09:32,900 Larry Romano, that's who's in the house. 189 00:09:35,780 --> 00:09:39,980 The music, the music is the connection at all times. 190 00:09:39,980 --> 00:09:43,840 The thing is, is that the Muses connection at all times. And you 191 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,260 know, I respect and admire you as an actor. And you know, King 192 00:09:47,260 --> 00:09:51,460 of Queens, I had the box sets my band is a big fan of the band, 193 00:09:51,460 --> 00:09:55,180 so when the song, when that show was out, and then even after 194 00:09:55,180 --> 00:09:57,280 that, in the early days of touring with Al Dean, we used to 195 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,920 have DVD players in all of our bunks, and we were living on. 196 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,840 Road, man, we were gone like 320 days a year. So in between 197 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,680 shows, we'd stop at Walmarts and we would get the, you know, I 198 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:10,320 buy a new season at Camp queens, or I buy a new season of 199 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,380 Everybody Loves Raymond. We pop men, and we hear all these 200 00:10:13,380 --> 00:10:16,440 laughter coming from the different bunks. So we love the 201 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,020 show. And later, I want to play some of the highlights of, you 202 00:10:19,020 --> 00:10:22,700 know, you know, Queen cousin Richie. I mean, he was the 203 00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:24,020 cousin of Doug hefferny. Wasn't 204 00:10:24,140 --> 00:10:27,260 he's the friend, the friend the five man friend. Yeah, exactly, 205 00:10:27,260 --> 00:10:27,680 you know, 206 00:10:27,980 --> 00:10:31,880 in the meantime, this is, this is a tune called God Bless 207 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,180 America that you guys, literally, over the course of a 208 00:10:35,180 --> 00:10:39,800 month, wrote, tracked from a variety of cities, and then 209 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,800 mixed and mastered. You want to hear it? Jim here a little bit. 210 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,040 Well, pop it up. There's a cowbell in there too. Cowbell 211 00:10:45,940 --> 00:10:46,180 while 212 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:51,040 the storm clouds gather from across the sea. Let us swear 213 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:57,040 allegiance to a land that's free. Let us all be grateful for 214 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,980 this land we all share as we raise our voices in solemn 215 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,900 prayer, God Bless 216 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:20,120 America through the night with the light from above. Yeah. Out, 217 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:26,000 who knew that Irving Berlin could rock like that dude? Well, 218 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,100 it's really not him, it's us, yes, 219 00:11:29,420 --> 00:11:32,660 just kind of took off on that lyric and all of that, and we 220 00:11:32,660 --> 00:11:36,020 did another version lyrically, yeah, where I just, you know, 221 00:11:36,020 --> 00:11:39,320 and the third verse to this is, like, fresh lyrics, yeah, you 222 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:44,080 know, because he covers it was written in 1918 and then we, I 223 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,300 guess we recorded in 1939 we're in 2025 you know, we want to say 224 00:11:49,300 --> 00:11:52,180 God bless America, but there's a lot of things that have changed 225 00:11:52,180 --> 00:11:56,980 about America in the last so on, almost 100 years, right? Years 226 00:11:56,980 --> 00:12:00,480 or more, really, and but it's still the greatest country in 227 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,840 the world, and it's where people from all over the world meet to 228 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,180 come as one, yes, and you never really when I very, very look, 229 00:12:09,180 --> 00:12:12,540 I'm not a very formally educated person. I did a little bit of 230 00:12:12,540 --> 00:12:15,600 community college, and I did this sociology class, and he 231 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,780 says that the teacher said that to America, New York is the 232 00:12:20,780 --> 00:12:25,700 world to the world. New York is America, yes. And, you know, and 233 00:12:25,700 --> 00:12:28,280 now I go to New York just recently on my recent journey, 234 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,160 and I'm up in the Bronx with a whole group of people, different 235 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:35,120 ethnic type, and then I'm, you know, then from this, I was up 236 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,940 in a luxury suite in the Bronx, and then I'm down on the streets 237 00:12:37,940 --> 00:12:40,720 in the Bronx, which I love, that the if you ever go to Yankee 238 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,500 Stadium. You got to go to the Yankee twin see my friend Eleni, 239 00:12:44,500 --> 00:12:47,680 the Greek goddess. She's got the Yankee twins. You got the DJ 240 00:12:47,740 --> 00:12:51,640 blasting. And I come from the suites of the Yankee Stadium 241 00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:55,000 with Ronnie Bloomberg, Mickey rivers, two time world series 242 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,700 champion, right? All those cats and blah, blah, blah, you're a 243 00:12:57,700 --> 00:13:00,840 huge baseball guy, let's just say baseball people. And next 244 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,020 thing, you know, I'm crossing river Avenue after the game to 245 00:13:04,020 --> 00:13:07,920 the Yankee twin, and they got Nelly from St Louis, blasting 246 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,920 out the speakers, yeah? So, like, you know what I mean, 247 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,900 that's what they're blasting, you know, and everybody's 248 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:15,960 dancing. You got this whole eclectic vibe. And then from 249 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,020 there, I went to a party with my Haitian friends out in Brooklyn, 250 00:13:19,020 --> 00:13:24,020 yeah, next year? No, I'm at a karaoke at like 2am on a Monday 251 00:13:24,020 --> 00:13:24,620 morning. 252 00:13:24,740 --> 00:13:26,300 It's the melting pot of all melting 253 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:29,720 pots. And there's people singing in Spanish, singing Russian 254 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,800 songs, karaoke, singing a rock and roll, singing soul music. 255 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,900 And yeah, and, you know? So, I mean, yes, as far as New York, 256 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:42,700 it's ingrained in me, you know. But now, as I branch out and I 257 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:45,040 see the rest of the world, always, I had a chance, chance 258 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,560 to be in Los Angeles, which is that now I'm in the Midwest, and 259 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:50,500 it's bad, man. I love it badass. I mean, was in a good way. You 260 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:53,620 like, you enjoy your time in the Midwest. Absolutely, man, is a 261 00:13:53,620 --> 00:13:56,140 lot of elbow room. And there's a whole, you know, there's a good 262 00:13:56,140 --> 00:13:57,280 there's culture here too. 263 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,620 I like about Spring Hill, Tennessee. You got some nice 264 00:13:59,620 --> 00:14:02,640 sidewalks. Birds are chirping. Kids are playing. I got to be 265 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,280 slower when I back out. I don't want to you know, the kids are 266 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,200 playing, playing ball in the street. 267 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:09,420 That's good. Playing ball on the street is good. 268 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:12,660 But let me tell you this. I think that most people you know 269 00:14:12,660 --> 00:14:17,520 would say, oh my god, this guy is a New Yorker, Mount Vernon, 270 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,360 New York. Tell us about your new york experience coming up as a 271 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,180 child, your folks was there music in the house, 272 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,360 yeah? You know, like people mistake me. They go the Bronx. 273 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,180 I've never, I never lived in the Bronx. Mount Vernon, New York, 274 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:33,020 is the closest I got. Two houses down was the border, and that 275 00:14:33,020 --> 00:14:36,020 was pretty much the majority of my life, in the first two and a 276 00:14:36,020 --> 00:14:38,900 half decades of my life, yeah. And on the south side of Mount 277 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:41,440 Vernon, it was a lot of people that came up from the south, 278 00:14:41,500 --> 00:14:45,100 maybe the they were descendants of slaves, maybe two, maybe two, 279 00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:48,160 three generations before. So they had that, you know, that 280 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,560 thing going on right there. But everybody was real cool with 281 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,000 each other. And you listening to am radio on the transistor radio 282 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,940 on the hood of a Chevy when you're five, you know, six, 283 00:14:57,940 --> 00:15:00,720 seven years old, and it's playing an am. That Motown 284 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,500 stuff. And then my father moved us up to Rockland County, is a 285 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:07,680 half hour north of the Bronx, and across the bridge, across 286 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,200 the bridge, you're familiar with New York, right? And, you know, 287 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,860 and it's looking back on, it was Nyack tap in, and it was, it was 288 00:15:13,860 --> 00:15:18,000 a lot of Bronx kids with fresh air in their lungs. Did you go 289 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,960 to the Long Island drum setter up there? Long Island drum 290 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,560 setter. You know, Long Island accuses me a Nyack, yes, right. 291 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:25,460 I've been there nice 292 00:15:25,460 --> 00:15:27,500 drum shop. Well, there was Manny's, there was Manny's 293 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:27,800 writing, 294 00:15:29,060 --> 00:15:32,060 yeah, yeah. Mash, right. 295 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,740 Being in Mount Vernon, though, another actor came out of there 296 00:15:36,740 --> 00:15:39,380 who was a part of the Boys and Girls Club, I guess he was a big 297 00:15:39,380 --> 00:15:43,540 part of it. He also gave back to it quite a bit. Was old Denzel. 298 00:15:43,540 --> 00:15:46,900 Denzel Washington, right? Yeah, he was a few years ahead of me. 299 00:15:47,140 --> 00:15:50,800 Denzel, a lot of talent comes out, well, a lot of talent comes 300 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:54,460 out of stat out of Mount Vernon, New York in general, right? And 301 00:15:54,460 --> 00:15:58,660 I was, and, you know, Rockland County, where I went for, you 302 00:15:58,660 --> 00:16:01,620 know, Mount Vernon was always the constant, because that's 303 00:16:01,620 --> 00:16:04,560 where my Aunt Nancy lived, and she was like my grandmother, 209 304 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,640 South 12th Avenue. And that was, I always that vibe, you know, 305 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,120 Rockland County for many years for that was the country. It was 306 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,940 a little bit but it was that country was Bronx kids with 307 00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:18,180 fresh air in it. Yeah. You know, my first band that I had in high 308 00:16:18,180 --> 00:16:21,020 school was with Danny Spitz, who went on to form anthrax. That's 309 00:16:21,020 --> 00:16:23,840 right, that's right. So that was like my first band, you know? 310 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,240 And so when did you start playing drums? Larry, well, in 311 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,060 Mount Vernon, New York, the fabrio School of Music. I was 312 00:16:29,060 --> 00:16:32,480 maybe five years old, and I was in there. And it started really 313 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:37,100 because of my family, not blood related. My uncle, Carmine, Jim 314 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:41,080 and azo, who was married to my mother's sister, right? His son, 315 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,860 Jerry, played the accordion. And Jerry had two kids who had four 316 00:16:44,860 --> 00:16:48,400 sons, Ricky and Buddy were the two. Oldest Bud was on drums and 317 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,060 Rick was on bass. Rick went on to, like, do a lot of the 318 00:16:52,060 --> 00:16:55,720 orchestration for a lot of Sony movies. Okay, big time stuff, 319 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,240 you know. And Bud is he went on to write and direct feature 320 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,000 films, independent feature films, in the States. He's out 321 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,300 in Germany now. He's doing a lot of television, promptly, like 322 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:10,560 very prominent German TV out there. So Bud was on the drums. 323 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,560 He was an inspiration. So at the family parties, I see cousin bud 324 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,320 on the drums. But I just took to the drums. I mean, you're a 325 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,780 drummer, you know, you just kind of take to it. You just, we've 326 00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:21,560 jammed over at Tony's place. Yeah, two kids. It was great. 327 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:26,780 Yeah, we played it up and and so that, you know, that's the 328 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,020 foundation, I guess the family parties that you because you get 329 00:17:30,020 --> 00:17:32,060 in a mix and then, you know, playing the drums. But 330 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,500 my parents never wanted me to be in the music. Least 331 00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:39,200 my father didn't, yeah, well, what was your trajectory for 332 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,460 them? What they want you to 333 00:17:40,460 --> 00:17:44,200 do? My father wanted me to play center field for the New York 334 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,620 game like DiMaggio, the magic three on five days. It's 335 00:17:47,740 --> 00:17:50,200 like, I want you to be a policeman or a fireman or go 336 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,660 into the trades or something. No, I want you to be a baseball 337 00:17:52,660 --> 00:17:53,500 player. But 338 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,000 not only that, center field, 339 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,920 he set the bar, but you played 340 00:17:59,980 --> 00:18:02,940 a lot. I played, and I wasn't very good. I had some really 341 00:18:02,940 --> 00:18:05,580 good years coming up, and it had some really not so good years, 342 00:18:05,580 --> 00:18:08,580 because my head wasn't into it. My head was more into girls and 343 00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:09,000 rock and 344 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:12,000 roll. But it allows you all these years later, to be a super 345 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,900 fan of the game. 346 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,900 I Yeah, you know, I could name this, that the other thing, and 347 00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:18,420 then getting to go to Yankee Stadium, hanging out with Mickey 348 00:18:18,420 --> 00:18:20,780 Rives, was the center fielder for the Yankees when they won a 349 00:18:20,780 --> 00:18:24,620 World Series in 77 and 78 so I was 1415, years old. Make the 350 00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:27,620 quick was one of my like, whoa. You know Ronnie Bloomberg. He 351 00:18:27,620 --> 00:18:31,100 was another guy. He was a Yankee. And so we talk a lot of 352 00:18:31,100 --> 00:18:34,820 baseball. You know baseball, and you know all time, NFL, 353 00:18:34,820 --> 00:18:35,480 football. You 354 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,180 know your stats, buddy, you were ripping off the stats backstage. 355 00:18:38,420 --> 00:18:41,620 Yeah. Two years ago you saw us at the Hollywood Amphitheater in 356 00:18:41,620 --> 00:18:45,220 St Louis, and we usually play that every year sometime in July 357 00:18:45,220 --> 00:18:50,200 or August. It's always the hottest temperature wise show of 358 00:18:50,380 --> 00:18:55,360 the year. I mean, you I have to hydrate and drink Gatorade all 359 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:58,600 day long because it is an intense show. But yeah, you were 360 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,700 ripping the stats backstage. So you know the game you playing 361 00:19:02,700 --> 00:19:06,540 drums. Now, you told me, before you got into acting, music was 362 00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:08,760 always in your life. Love of baseball was always in your 363 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,920 life. Before you got into acting, you went to the Fashion 364 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,720 Institute of Technology. Did you finish? 365 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:17,400 No, okay, no, no, school, formal education wasn't my thing. How 366 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,600 long were you at fit like, it's two semesters, taking night 367 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,660 courses, yeah, well, my father was in a garment business. Oh, 368 00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:26,300 okay, you know, he had dress factories up in Mount Vernon, 369 00:19:26,300 --> 00:19:30,260 New York, and cutting rooms and stuff like that. So, but, you 370 00:19:30,260 --> 00:19:34,100 know, by the time I came of age, the garment business was moving 371 00:19:34,220 --> 00:19:38,300 out of the country. And, you know, being a drummer, they came 372 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:42,040 up with a drum machine, and music in New York was changing 373 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,040 at that point, yeah, which is some of like the movie that you 374 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,100 played the drums on the score Saturday Park is about a kid 375 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,600 who's a drummer. Yeah, tell 376 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,180 us. Tell us about, tell us about the the 377 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:58,120 story behind that play, which became the film that you 378 00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,920 directed, and the plot. 379 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,820 The plot. The storyline is that, well, it's semi 380 00:20:02,820 --> 00:20:07,020 autobiographical, and is that, you know, here's this kid, he's 381 00:20:07,020 --> 00:20:09,900 a drummer, and his parents are putting the pressure on him that 382 00:20:09,900 --> 00:20:12,240 you gotta, you know, you gotta start paying rent, you gotta get 383 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,820 a union job. You gotta, you know that, that and the other thing. 384 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,000 And here's a drummer in New York City, where the music was 385 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,080 changing, the sound was changing, and they come up with 386 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,220 the drum machine. So he's really cooked, you know? And it's about 387 00:20:25,220 --> 00:20:28,280 him deciding what he wanted to do with his life, moving forward 388 00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:31,340 as a drummer, you know, when they come up with the drum 389 00:20:31,340 --> 00:20:34,400 machine. Now we're looking at AI that's taken over everything, 390 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,520 right? Yeah, if you go back, you know, you go back, okay, it's 391 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,920 like, you know, the ice man who's to deliver ice to 392 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,560 residents, right? Oh, yeah. You know, they come up with the 393 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,740 residential ice box, the residential refrigerator, so 394 00:20:47,740 --> 00:20:50,620 he's out of business. And now you look at the drummer who's 395 00:20:50,620 --> 00:20:53,260 facing the drum machine in New York City night. But we all 396 00:20:53,260 --> 00:20:56,620 survived it. We survived with the drugs, because the music is 397 00:20:56,620 --> 00:20:59,740 you can't what you did that day and all of that and the 398 00:20:59,740 --> 00:21:04,620 camaraderie, you can't beat it. Man, no, you can't be just no 399 00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:06,960 computers going to do it. Man, I think, 400 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,020 I think we're safe. AI is going to be here. New drum machines, 401 00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:12,900 new technology is coming, but you can't replace the head and 402 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:15,900 the heart and the spirituality and what the collective energy 403 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:19,020 when people get to collaborate in a room. So, so really, it is 404 00:21:19,020 --> 00:21:21,560 the tale of but it's two friends, Danny and Mike, yep. 405 00:21:21,620 --> 00:21:24,980 Danny, Mike, yeah. And the And what's wonderful about the film 406 00:21:24,980 --> 00:21:27,620 is somebody you know, who did study acting in Los Angeles for 407 00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:31,160 five years, got my sad card. I got to see these two great young 408 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:36,560 actors. And the scene is final scene in the movie. I can't tell 409 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,100 you, because it totally be a spoiler, but it's a 13 minute 410 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:42,640 scene. It's pretty long. Yeah, it might be longer than 13 411 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,280 minutes. It might be even longer than 13 minutes. And I asked 412 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,600 you, like, hey, that wasn't like, one take, was it? And you 413 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:53,200 laughed at me like it took, like, one night, whole COVID. 414 00:21:53,620 --> 00:21:56,680 What happened was it took a couple days. And, you know, I 415 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,260 knew that. I knew and you know, someday we'll be able to get the 416 00:22:01,260 --> 00:22:04,380 behind the scenes footage out there, because I knew that once 417 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,740 it warms up in the Bronx, because we shot it entirely in 418 00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:11,460 the Bronx, once it starts to warm up in the Bronx, forget 419 00:22:11,460 --> 00:22:14,580 about Thursday, Friday, Saturday night. You're not filming out 420 00:22:14,580 --> 00:22:17,460 there, because there's too many people that are coming out and 421 00:22:17,460 --> 00:22:19,800 they just want to get out there, and they want to be the warm 422 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,820 weather. They want to be out on the street, yep. So we lost a 423 00:22:22,820 --> 00:22:25,580 couple days because of that. Then it was some other stuff 424 00:22:25,580 --> 00:22:28,040 that went down that we could that could have been helped, but 425 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,660 wasn't. So it took about five days to film that, you know, but 426 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,300 you know, the actors were right on. As you can see, they're 427 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:36,980 really happening those actors, what 428 00:22:36,980 --> 00:22:39,140 are those two young cats doing now? Please tell me they're 429 00:22:39,140 --> 00:22:41,140 still in the biz. Well, 430 00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:46,000 we lost track of Aaron. Aaron sauter, he was played Mikey. He 431 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,940 pretty much disappeared. That's crazy, yeah, off of social 432 00:22:48,940 --> 00:22:52,960 media, off of every day, maybe something tragic happened. I 433 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:54,940 think we kind of would have known that, right? Yeah, you 434 00:22:54,940 --> 00:22:58,720 know. I mean, maybe he's turned into a monk or a Buddhist or 435 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,280 something like that, I don't know, but he was fantastic in 436 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,700 the role. As you know, I originally read him for the role 437 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:09,300 of Danny, but when he read for Mikey, when he read for Danny, I 438 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:12,780 knew he was Mikey. Well, I played both roles on stage. So I 439 00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:15,780 played not, not at the same time, when we did it as a work 440 00:23:15,780 --> 00:23:18,600 in progress with Ana Strasburg at the Lee Strasberg Theater 441 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Institute that I played Danny the drummer. Greg heck played 442 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,400 Mikey the guitar player. Okay, then we went off, off Broadway. 443 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,480 I played Danny again. Michael oselini, he played, he played 444 00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:32,960 Mikey. Okay, that's where Stallone's casting agency, Agent 445 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,020 found me. Joy Todd, she found me. She cast me in a movie with 446 00:23:36,020 --> 00:23:39,020 Sylvester Stallone called lockup, yeah. Then when we did 447 00:23:39,020 --> 00:23:43,180 it in Los Angeles, I played Mikey and Walt Woodson played 448 00:23:43,180 --> 00:23:48,040 Danny, so I was very familiar with both roles. Wow. So that 449 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,040 the part, I mean, that's actually a an acting exercise 450 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,860 that I have been privy to, which is very hard, because you have 451 00:23:53,860 --> 00:23:56,800 to wrap your you got to wrap your head around the other 452 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,440 person in that same scene. Yeah, 453 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,100 it's a lot of back and forth. It's playing off each other. And 454 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:04,320 then every play, every production of the play, went 455 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,980 really well. It evolved. And then as far as when we got to 456 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:14,040 casting it, you know, Aaron sort of got red for Danny, but I cast 457 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,700 him as Mikey, yeah. And then we had another actor who I wanted 458 00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:20,840 to cast musicians that were real musicians so they could put a 459 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,680 soundtrack together. And Mikey's a real musician, and I cast 460 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,940 another kid. He was really good, and he was a drummer, so I put 461 00:24:28,940 --> 00:24:33,620 him above the eventual Danny, who was Ilya Constantine, but 462 00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:37,520 then he didn't show up for rehearsals. What? Yeah, anyway, 463 00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:40,520 Oh, I gotta go skiing in Aspen. Don't blow your chances, kids. 464 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:44,680 So I had to get rid of him. That sucks. And that's where Ilya 465 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,380 Constantine came in. He had five days to learn the script 466 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,100 at that is a lot of dialog, dialog, man. So that's very 467 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,320 impressive. Yeah, it was good. Let me ask you this, and it 468 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,140 seems like you look out for your friends, because now Victor 469 00:24:56,140 --> 00:25:02,700 Williams, yeah, played Doug Heffernan. Friends in the King 470 00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:05,880 of Queens, co worker, and you cast him, yeah? So you guys kept 471 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,820 in touch over the years, yeah. And then wasn't Chuck Zito in 472 00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:12,000 the Sopranos. Chuck Zito, and I don't think Chuck, I mean, he's 473 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,840 been in a lot of Italian, American based movies, wasn't 474 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,040 he? I could have sworn 475 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:22,520 he was in Oz tonight. Oz in grave Zen, yeah. Big part in 476 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,840 Osman, right? And, you know, he plays a tough guy, because he's 477 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,200 a legitimate tough guy, let's face it, right? So, you know, 478 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,600 he's always been cast as that role. So when I what I wanted to 479 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,480 do is I cast him as, you know, as the loving, caring father, 480 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,680 yes. And you know, people like, What do you mean? Chuck is a no. 481 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,700 Because, you know, when you're writing and directing stuff, you 482 00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:48,340 know, you look at these actors. You look at no matter how 483 00:25:48,340 --> 00:25:51,220 interesting they are as a person, as an actor, they're 484 00:25:51,220 --> 00:25:54,400 1000 times more interesting as a person. So, you know, here's 485 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,580 this guy who's known for being the former president of a 486 00:25:57,580 --> 00:26:02,760 motorcycle club, you know, tough guy, so on and so forth. Leader, 487 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:08,460 yeah, all that stuff you know, and, and it's like there's more 488 00:26:08,460 --> 00:26:12,720 to him than that, you know. And to be able to know, knowing him, 489 00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:15,720 you know, knowing him, seeing him in certain situations, okay, 490 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,360 I could cast him as that role, which is more exciting for me 491 00:26:19,020 --> 00:26:22,220 than to, like, cast a guy straight on as a tough guy. 492 00:26:22,220 --> 00:26:26,660 Yeah, you know, it's more fun to play like that. So. But all this 493 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:30,740 comes from decades of study and acting, studying movies, being 494 00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:34,400 in movies, being in TV shows, and people ask me if I want to 495 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,820 go back into acting. And sometimes I say, I don't know, 496 00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:41,920 you know, like, I don't like, really playing certain roles, 497 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,160 you know, 498 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:48,880 please tell me that. Please tell me you enjoyed the part on the 499 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,020 can Queens because you were 500 00:26:50,020 --> 00:26:54,340 spectacular. Yeah, I did. I had some fun with it and but here's 501 00:26:54,340 --> 00:26:58,120 the, here's the thing is that I, you know, you talk about, you do 502 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:00,900 some of that positive stuff, like all that stuff. So 503 00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:03,300 motivational, yeah, the motivational stuff. So now here 504 00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:07,740 I am, okay. I used to visualize because, you know, here look at, 505 00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:11,340 look at how it goes. My father was basically, you know, trying 506 00:27:11,340 --> 00:27:13,740 to grooming me to play center field for the Yankees. Look at 507 00:27:13,740 --> 00:27:16,860 the long shot, bro, yeah, you know, I mean, like, that's that. 508 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,860 Then he's in the garment business, which basically, not 509 00:27:19,860 --> 00:27:23,540 basically, is going overseas. So I'm cooked on that one, right? 510 00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:26,000 And then you got the drum and stuff and got the drum machine. 511 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,940 I'm cooked. I'm done, yeah? Like, how do I really figure 512 00:27:28,940 --> 00:27:31,700 this out, how to make something happen? Like, I'm dead in the 513 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:37,100 water at 22 years old, right? With no education and but I 514 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:41,260 wasn't giving up. I mean, so does that take you to Los 515 00:27:41,260 --> 00:27:44,440 Angeles acting, because I was going down Seventh Avenue or 516 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,080 Broadway one day, and you open up one of those boxes with the 517 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,720 newspaper in it, or a pamphlet, and it was for the Learning 518 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,020 Annex. And it was different classes. Want to learn how to 519 00:27:53,020 --> 00:27:56,980 play piano, which I took that one I'm not which it was fun. 520 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,920 One to How To Lose Your New York accents, which I have no 521 00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:03,000 business trying to lose my New York accent because, you know, 522 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,880 later on, I found out that, like, it was a selling point for 523 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,700 you, right, exactly. And there's a whole other story with that 524 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,000 one. And then there was a commercial acting class, Whis 525 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,000 Barron. And when I went, I said, let me give it a go, you know, I 526 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,460 mean, because I got to figure out how I'm gonna eat, right? 527 00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:22,400 And I went in there and I read, and, you know, there was a 528 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,340 class, and it was a whole group of people, and, you know, New 529 00:28:25,340 --> 00:28:27,560 Yorkers, I was probably considered more like a bridge 530 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,440 and tunnel person, you know, from the outer boroughs coming 531 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,440 into Manhattan, which is more worldly. And it was a lot of 532 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,540 people in there that, you know, it was a little slightly 533 00:28:35,540 --> 00:28:38,000 intimidated. You could tell they probably did four years of 534 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,420 college, or maybe even all of that. And here I am with maybe 535 00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:43,720 one, two years of community college, which I really, you 536 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,200 know, didn't grab much out of it, right? So, except from that 537 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,980 note from the sociology teacher and but when I read, I said, You 538 00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:53,560 know what? Just keep going straight forward, man, just do 539 00:28:53,620 --> 00:28:56,080 it. And I did, you know, sometimes you get nervous and 540 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,600 you feel like the heat's coming out the top of your head. And I 541 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,280 was it, but the teacher says you got something. So when she said, 542 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:06,180 You got something, I remember, you know, driving home, I had 543 00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:10,140 this Audi with a blanc stereo, and like, 120 watt, watt amp 544 00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:13,080 system in the back. And I'm cranking Van Halen, because I 545 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,720 was, do you know, I'm into Van Halen totally, totally, was into 546 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,560 Van Halen and David Lee Roth. And, of course, we talk about 547 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,000 that in the movie Saturday in the park, but I'm driving there, 548 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,420 and I'm thinking, like, I'm gonna get into acting, and I'm 549 00:29:26,420 --> 00:29:29,000 gonna make money with acting, because I don't have to worry 550 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,220 about a drum machine. I don't have to worry about getting a 551 00:29:31,220 --> 00:29:33,500 band together. I could do this on my own, right? Because, you 552 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:35,600 know, when you get a band together, there's always a guy 553 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,300 that, even up till now, just three months ago, I thought I 554 00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:40,220 had a band, and next thing, you know, the guy's like, oh, I 555 00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:42,580 don't know, my wife ain't gonna let me do it and all of this 556 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:45,760 stuff. I'm like, what? Yeah, there's always the the weakest 557 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,400 link, you know what I mean. So, like, I'm on there on my own. 558 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,520 So, like, what happens is, I says I'm gonna work and get some 559 00:29:52,180 --> 00:29:55,000 acting gigs, and then I'll be able to go on to music, yeah? 560 00:29:55,180 --> 00:29:57,760 And so I got the movie with Stallone, then I ended up 561 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,020 working with Madonna. And, you know. Her story was like, Oh 562 00:30:01,020 --> 00:30:04,620 yeah, I'm going to do music and get into movies. Which she did, 563 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,080 you know, she did what she wanted to do. You were in one of 564 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,660 her videos, right? I did the video. Oh, Father with her, 565 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,500 okay, where, you know, which was a black and white video David 566 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:16,320 Fincher directed, he went on to direct seven and a lot of great 567 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,780 movies. What a fantastic thing, right? You know? And so now I'm 568 00:30:20,780 --> 00:30:23,060 sitting there. I have responsibilities. As a young 569 00:30:23,060 --> 00:30:25,880 man, I had kids, so I didn't want to leave them like living 570 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,240 in squalor. So I did whatever I had to do to survive, but I 571 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,380 wanted to do music all the time, and movies are a boom, a hit, 572 00:30:33,380 --> 00:30:35,480 boom. Next thing you know, you're going to Australia for 573 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,900 five months, which was great on a thin red line. But then what's 574 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:43,060 your next gig? So I like, I started to, first of all, once I 575 00:30:43,060 --> 00:30:45,940 got into acting, I would visualize myself with Stallone, 576 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,940 which I ended up working with Stallone. So the visualization 577 00:30:48,940 --> 00:30:52,480 stuff worked. I visualized I had the Rolling Stone magazine with 578 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,480 Madonna and Rosanna or cat on the cover. I kept that on my 579 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,360 wall. And then next thing you know, within you know, I was 580 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,200 working with Madonna. So like, I visualized all that you are 581 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,540 tapped into the law of attraction. Larry, I was tapped 582 00:31:03,540 --> 00:31:07,740 in pretty seriously. And I'm I kind of tapped out for a while, 583 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,740 and I got to tap in again, yeah, but, and I'm working on that, 584 00:31:10,740 --> 00:31:15,600 but so because as years go by, you know, I realized that, you 585 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,080 know, you see how people get beat down, you know. But to keep 586 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,420 going, you know. So now, what I figured out after the Stallone 587 00:31:23,420 --> 00:31:29,300 movie, if I get a TV show, I could be my own record label. So 588 00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:32,480 I got a TV show, so my responsibility is to keeping a 589 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,120 roof over kids house. And, you know, keep keep a roof over the 590 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,560 kids and feeding them. How many 591 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,740 kids you got? I got three, and the most of them are in Los 592 00:31:39,740 --> 00:31:40,580 Angeles now. Well, 593 00:31:40,580 --> 00:31:44,200 yeah, well, yeah, you know, they are where they are, and they 594 00:31:44,740 --> 00:31:48,340 grown man, but I'm like, I did my thing. I did what I had to 595 00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:53,620 do, you know? And when I got the TV show, I was able to finance 596 00:31:54,340 --> 00:31:59,620 rehearsals, recordings, the whole bit, and we recorded three 597 00:31:59,620 --> 00:32:00,280 albums. 598 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,240 Now, is this in New York, or is this one Sunset Strip with Los 599 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,640 Angeles? Yeah, with some of these cast of characters, which 600 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,040 is like Ty Dennis, who played with the doors, and Robbie 601 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,540 Krieger the new doors. And then you had a who's Lance Morrison. 602 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,500 No, I work with and Lance Morrison on some other tracks. 603 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,660 Yeah, that you know my cousin Ricky, and I Ricky the guy that 604 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,140 he's he's the base cousin who ended up orchestrating a lot of 605 00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:27,860 music for Sony Records or movies and stuff like that. So Ricky 606 00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:31,400 and I wrote two songs when I was in Los Angeles, when he came 607 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,580 down to Los Angeles, and back in 91 when we were doing the play 608 00:32:34,580 --> 00:32:37,760 in Saturday and park, yeah. And then he found a cat named Jimmy 609 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,100 Hunter, who was from Detroit, and we went and did 16 track, 610 00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:45,700 uh, one inch tape, but with a drum machine, yeah, but Jimmy's 611 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:48,820 a drummer. He's really good with the vocals and doing stuff like 612 00:32:48,820 --> 00:32:53,020 that. And Jimmy brought in Lance Morrison, Penny wonzo, Keith 613 00:32:53,020 --> 00:32:57,580 Howland, Jimmy Corey, Johnny duva, yeah. And Lee Thornberg, 614 00:32:57,580 --> 00:32:59,500 uh, Tom Pollock on a horns. 615 00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:03,060 So, So Keith every Keith is a friend, and he played 20 years 616 00:33:03,060 --> 00:33:07,560 with Chicago, and you got Lance Morrison, who played bass on 617 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,860 Jagged Little Pill and Ty Dennis and I were buddies. We're 618 00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:13,800 Facebook friends, small world. Man, yeah, so the music and the 619 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,640 acting were all kind of going together. You're studying at the 620 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,140 least Strasbourg. That was 621 00:33:19,140 --> 00:33:23,960 back in 8687 by this time I'm in LA and, you know, and I tapped 622 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,980 into all that music. And, you know, these guys, they hadn't, 623 00:33:27,980 --> 00:33:30,740 Lance had not played with, you know, this is before he played 624 00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:33,740 with, honest, right? Yeah, before Keith was with Chicago, 625 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,580 Jimmy Corey, he's a fan. He ended up with Beth Hart. Oh, 626 00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:40,220 nice. Beth Hart, you know, she's, she rocks. Oh, right, 627 00:33:40,220 --> 00:33:42,940 exactly. You know, Johnny Dover, at that point, already played 628 00:33:42,940 --> 00:33:45,400 with, I think Johnny Edgar, winter, or something like that. 629 00:33:45,580 --> 00:33:48,640 But, um, and those, that's a different sound. And Lee 630 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,980 Thornburg, Tom Pollock, they must have played with, like, 631 00:33:50,980 --> 00:33:54,040 maybe tower power. They got to, they that hammers. They call 632 00:33:54,040 --> 00:34:00,220 them hammers, you know. But once I got the King of Queens, the 633 00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:04,920 goal, the dream was to have a quartet, whereas bass guitar 634 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,400 drums, and that's where Ty Dennis came in on drums, Angelo 635 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,780 Barbera on the bass, who's like a, just, he's a, he's a, I don't 636 00:34:12,780 --> 00:34:16,080 know. He's just a wild hammer, man. He's a jackhammer. He says, 637 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,620 some of the stuff he does, he's unique, yeah. And then Mick was 638 00:34:19,620 --> 00:34:23,600 on guitar, and then I was just like, doing what I do, groveling 639 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,540 and saying my lyrics, scream my lyrics and the feelings. And we 640 00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:30,620 ended up, so the King of Queens, when we talk about how fun it 641 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:35,300 was. So I would be going to this, you know, TV sitcom, CBS, 642 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:39,500 yeah, which, you know, it's, they have the network and the 643 00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:44,260 studio and the analytics, and they all of this stuff. And then 644 00:34:44,260 --> 00:34:46,840 I'm going, like, flipping the hat, and, you know, putting on a 645 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,720 different hat, and then just going into a studio, usually, 646 00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:52,960 amp rehearsal in North Hollywood. And North Hollywood 647 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,260 was not the way it is right now. It's gentrified. There was, 648 00:34:56,380 --> 00:34:59,260 like, the buildings that are there now were not there, yeah, 649 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,000 you know. And. And and it just had that vibe. And next thing 650 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,240 you know, I'm going into this rehearsal room with these 651 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:10,320 musicians who obviously went on to that, obviously went on to do 652 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,940 great things, so they're no joke. So it was just Wild Rock 653 00:35:14,940 --> 00:35:18,120 and Roll and, like, rah and that was really what it was. So I go 654 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,900 from the corporate TV 655 00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:25,160 show. Yes, is America's network. That's the family network, 656 00:35:25,460 --> 00:35:26,660 right? You know what I mean? 657 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,800 Oh, yeah. Then you're, you're living a double life. Larry, so 658 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:36,380 that show ran from 1998 to 2007 and what? What seasons were you 659 00:35:36,380 --> 00:35:41,320 on? I was in the first two seasons 1998 1999 Yeah, amazing. 660 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,620 And if for those that don't remember, you got Kevin James, 661 00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:47,740 who played Doug hefferman, who is a delivery man for a sort of 662 00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:51,820 like a faux ups. You had Leia Remini, who played Carrie 663 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:55,540 Heiferman. And, of course, God rest his soul. Comedic genius 664 00:35:55,540 --> 00:35:58,660 Jerry Stiller played Arthur Spooner. Oh, my God, he's 665 00:35:58,660 --> 00:36:01,500 hilarious. And then your buddy, Victor Williams, and then Patton 666 00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:06,060 Oswalt. Patton Oswalt actually played the voice of an animated 667 00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:10,800 character when I did my acting part with Christopher Maloney 668 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,400 from law and order on a television show called Happy on 669 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,760 the Sci Fi Channel. So Patton was the voice of an animated 670 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,480 character. So I had to act, and there was like an ant. They put 671 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,020 in this animated character between me and Maloney. And it 672 00:36:24,020 --> 00:36:26,420 was, dude, it was so fun. I mean, just to be thrown in the 673 00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:29,900 deep end of the pool. Like, here's this super, multi decade 674 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,540 trained thespian actor, Christopher Maloney, and here's 675 00:36:32,540 --> 00:36:36,140 this drummer with a little acting training that got this 676 00:36:36,140 --> 00:36:39,080 job, and they throw me into the deep end of the pool and action. 677 00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:43,360 And I, dude, I hit my mark and I I did my thing. Yeah, yeah. 678 00:36:43,420 --> 00:36:43,780 Crushed. 679 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,120 I heard some things, 680 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,460 things little bit. Now, before I really want to play the trailer 681 00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:53,980 to we heard God bus America, I want to play the trailer to 682 00:36:53,980 --> 00:36:58,000 Saturday in the park. But can we quickly do this little best of 683 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,860 compilation of your character? Richie on the gay queens, just 684 00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:05,700 for everybody can have some nice belly laughs. So I love the 685 00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:08,940 show, and it runs reruns all the time, which means you do 686 00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:13,980 Hillary checks? Would you do Hillary? That's a whole story, 687 00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:15,300 right? Lady, you got to do it. 688 00:37:18,900 --> 00:37:19,980 I don't know. She's 689 00:37:19,980 --> 00:37:21,980 filling out that skirt a little bit too much for my 690 00:37:21,980 --> 00:37:24,080 taste. Nah, see, I love a little jiggle, jiggle on the first 691 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,880 lady. Hey, moose. 692 00:37:27,020 --> 00:37:30,560 Question for you, now that your wife's sister moved in, the two 693 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,400 of them, ever you know, get into an argument, then maybe start 694 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,760 whacking each other with pillows. Next thing you know, a 695 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,560 little playful wrestling leads to a lingering because 696 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,840 I'm asking. Oh, somebody's cranky. Hey, Santa Claus, you 697 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,320 missed. 698 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,560 Moose, relax. We got you covered. Hey, Chens, go get me a 699 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,940 big stick. If we whack him, maybe candy will come out. 700 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:06,660 This is where he 701 00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:09,060 the hell is this 702 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,440 a new car? No, seriously, what is 703 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,980 it? It's a car. Hey, maybe you spent some time in Luxembourg. 704 00:38:16,980 --> 00:38:18,660 You wouldn't ask him stupid questions. 705 00:38:19,860 --> 00:38:21,080 Where did clowns come out 706 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,460 so you find anything you want to watch yet, 707 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,160 no. Daytime TV is brutal. 708 00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:31,040 What are we supposed to watch? What the way we were on the 709 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,000 romance channel, 710 00:38:34,220 --> 00:38:35,960 that on anybody want to watch it? 711 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,440 You? No, 712 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:50,560 hey, hey, this remote. It keeps jumping around. Hey, moose. Hey, 713 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,560 Richard, listen, sorry. I'm late. I was at OTB, and I just 714 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,580 kept winning trifectas. The exact is a couple Daily Doubles. 715 00:38:57,580 --> 00:39:00,160 Unbelievable, boom. $28 Mom's 716 00:39:01,180 --> 00:39:03,780 coming in from St Louis. I got to pick a gotta pick her up from 717 00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:04,440 the airport that 718 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,380 night. St Louis. Oh, she could watch Ultimate Fighting with us. 719 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,720 Hell, I met her. She could be in it. 720 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,660 St Louis, Larry, great stuff. Hey. So what was the schedule on 721 00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:21,360 this sitcom you're rehearsing Monday through Thursday? You go 722 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,600 live in front of a studio audience. Studio audience on 723 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,020 Friday, 724 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,100 right? Yeah. So we get the, let's say we filmed on Friday 725 00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,580 night. So Friday night, we go back to, you know, come home, 726 00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:34,520 and they would, I guess nowadays, they email you a 727 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,460 script, but we would have a hard copy of the script at our front 728 00:39:37,460 --> 00:39:40,960 door or wherever we were living. And then, you know, so you got 729 00:39:41,020 --> 00:39:43,120 sad, you know, you peruse through it Friday, because 730 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,400 you're still coming down off the show, which I know, you know 731 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,180 what that's about. And then, um, and then, you know, Saturday, 732 00:39:49,180 --> 00:39:51,700 maybe dabble a little bit, Sunday, a little then Monday, 733 00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:55,900 you'd have a reading with the cast and maybe the network and 734 00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:59,380 the studio, and you maybe rehearse a little bit. Then you 735 00:39:59,380 --> 00:40:02,460 go home early. Me. Tuesday, you come back, there's new pages, 736 00:40:02,460 --> 00:40:06,000 rehearse a little bit, go home. Wednesday, you really start 737 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,700 hitting it. You're reading for the studio. You're reading for 738 00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:12,720 the network. Final tune ups. Thursday is when they start 739 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:16,080 doing the lights, they blocking, and you block in and that stuff. 740 00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:18,720 And then, you know, Friday, you come in for your hair, your 741 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,800 makeup, a bop it, Bing, and then you shoot the show, and you go 742 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:22,460 home, start all 743 00:40:22,460 --> 00:40:25,040 over again. And it's like a live thing with a live studio. It's 744 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,880 mostly tourists coming into, you know, Los Angeles, and maybe 745 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,520 they get the pizza and they get them all excited. You got a warm 746 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,000 up cook comedian. Hey, you guys ready to see the That sounds 747 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,880 exciting? It really is good, man. I don't know what the 748 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,020 current state of sitcoms are, but I think that the 749 00:40:41,020 --> 00:40:44,620 laugh tracks are, I don't know they sound, yeah, and that the 750 00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:50,440 new high definition thing is weird. So I think that the multi 751 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:56,680 cam, oh, sorry, the single cam, like family, modern, family 101, 752 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,160 documentary, yeah, that kind of got more popular. 753 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,480 But I think that really, really a sitcom format, and the way it 754 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,320 is, it has to be brought back, yeah, yeah, because it's just a 755 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:08,880 classic format, man. You know, 756 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,940 22 minutes, there's trouble. I mean, Jim and I are huge fans 757 00:41:11,940 --> 00:41:14,100 of, you know, Three's Company. We talk about Three's Company 758 00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:14,460 all the time. 759 00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:17,520 My Uncle Pete did the sound on Pete's threes, like the boom 760 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,480 operators. Oh, he was, like, one of the mixing guys in a bag. My 761 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,720 Uncle Pete got my Uncle Pete Romano, my father's brother. He 762 00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:27,320 came out to California 1949 he wanted to pioneers of radio and 763 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,560 music. You know, he was an engineer on when Phil Spectrum 764 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,460 was producing Mac. He was an engineer with Mac Davis. He's 765 00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:38,060 got gold records on the wall. Gold records, platinum. Yeah. My 766 00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:40,700 Uncle Pete was a hammer, but he was a three. He was on Three's 767 00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:43,000 Company. I guess at that time he might have been doing full doing 768 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,600 Foley, yeah, kicking back. You know, they keep taking it easy, 769 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,120 but he was the guy that was cutting it with a razor blade, 770 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,940 yeah? Mac Davis and all of those cats. I 771 00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:55,900 can't imagine being on that set with John Ritter being as a such 772 00:41:55,900 --> 00:42:00,060 a physical comedian, and the tripping and the falling and the 773 00:42:00,060 --> 00:42:04,020 spinning and the over exaggerated. It's just so 774 00:42:04,020 --> 00:42:04,620 enjoyable. 775 00:42:04,620 --> 00:42:07,140 Yeah, you know, it goes back to the writing. You know, the King 776 00:42:07,140 --> 00:42:10,080 of Queens are really good writers, and Seinfeld is good 777 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,600 writers. And it's hard to develop good writers in today's 778 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,180 world, because not too many people want to sit in front of a 779 00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:18,120 computer, look at a blank screen and then take criticism for it. 780 00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:22,760 Yeah. You know, I would think that Fox was trying something 781 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,580 many years ago, which I played a role in it, where they would do 782 00:42:25,580 --> 00:42:28,160 plays and see if they could run into a TV 783 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,880 show. Oh, wow. Like, almost, like a, like, a farm, yeah, 784 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,660 incubator, incubator, right, you know. And I think because, you 785 00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:39,320 know, a sitcom is a sitcom, man, you can't beat that. You know, 786 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,980 when you watch those all time, classic sitcom, Norman Lear 787 00:42:41,980 --> 00:42:44,680 stuff. I mean, right? Whether you, no matter how you feel 788 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,880 about Archie Bunker or the Jeffersons, or go down Happy 789 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,540 Days, or Laverne and Shirley, King of Queens, Raymond, you 790 00:42:52,540 --> 00:42:55,600 know Ned and Stacy, which Ned and Stacy was written by Michael 791 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,780 Whitehorn, who is wrote, co wrote, co created the King of 792 00:42:58,780 --> 00:43:01,620 Queens, and it's one of my favorite shows. But that sitcom 793 00:43:01,620 --> 00:43:05,400 formula, I don't know why they got away with it. They got to 794 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,020 get back to it if they want to. I 795 00:43:07,020 --> 00:43:09,720 hope it comes back. I really do, because I'm such a fan of it. 796 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,060 Yeah, tell us about Jerry Stiller, why he's a genius, 797 00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:18,780 classic, old time New York guy, you know, sounds like a song and 798 00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:19,560 dance man, like, 799 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,760 yeah, you know, he's like, I think is, you know, is a New 800 00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,480 Yorker man, like an old time New York guy, you know, and his wife 801 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,780 and Mira, she was just a very interesting person, hardcore New 802 00:43:29,780 --> 00:43:33,620 York person, yeah, you know. And I don't believe she comes from 803 00:43:33,620 --> 00:43:39,260 an era where being offended would be acceptable, yeah, oh, 804 00:43:39,260 --> 00:43:42,820 I'm offended. Well, that's unacceptable. He's part of 805 00:43:42,820 --> 00:43:46,000 comedy. It's just part of life, too. Life is, you know what I 806 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,300 mean, like, Oh, I'm so offended. Like, you're offended. Too bad, 807 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,200 you know, it's, oh, I'm sorry I offended you not, you know. 808 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,100 Like, and she's like, you know, she comes from that era where no 809 00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:00,100 one is safe and no one should laugh. 810 00:44:00,460 --> 00:44:03,480 Like, Don it's like, Don Rickles, he got away with 811 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,340 everything because he spared no one, 812 00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,020 right, right? Spared no one. 813 00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:11,280 But he was also self deprecating as well. Yes, yeah. So, I mean, 814 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,200 that was the, you know, everybody could laugh at 815 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,420 themselves back then. Yeah, yeah. That doesn't 816 00:44:15,420 --> 00:44:17,880 happen. You know, people don't have thick skin nowadays. You 817 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,360 know, people are offended over this tiny other thing. And it's 818 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,020 like, it's, it's up to, I guess, our generation as the elders, to 819 00:44:24,020 --> 00:44:27,200 sing ace. It's like, when Cher smacks Nicholas Cage in the 820 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,500 face, you know, in Moonstruck. Snap out of it, yeah. What's 821 00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:35,120 wrong with you? Yeah. Snap out of it. You know. You know, like, 822 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,700 I mean, as far as anything's concerned, you everything, like, 823 00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:39,980 You got to be careful that you might offend somebody. It's 824 00:44:39,980 --> 00:44:40,540 like, No, bro, 825 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:44,560 it's too bad. I'll be honest. I think we turned a corner. We're 826 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,620 back. We heading back. It's society, yeah, I think so we got 827 00:44:47,620 --> 00:44:50,140 that, yeah, because people just got enough. Is Enough already? 828 00:44:50,140 --> 00:44:50,620 Are we talking? 829 00:44:50,620 --> 00:44:53,020 Did we turn the corner? I think we did. Okay, good. Well, we 830 00:44:53,020 --> 00:44:53,620 got, according 831 00:44:53,620 --> 00:44:54,760 to the book, we turned the corner. 832 00:44:54,820 --> 00:44:58,900 Okay, the metal and keep going. Bring pay phones back. 833 00:44:58,900 --> 00:45:00,240 It'll take about 20. Years, 834 00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:03,060 maybe 20. Hey, man, just think about the here's the deal. And 835 00:45:03,060 --> 00:45:05,760 just made COVID made me think about this. Just think about the 836 00:45:05,820 --> 00:45:10,320 amount of germs that are on a New York City pay phone. People 837 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,960 put that thing up to their ear, in their mouth, they're touching 838 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,500 all the buttons, 839 00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:17,220 and they were healthy. Oh my God, when Kramer went and swam 840 00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:22,100 in the Hudson River. And, I mean, we used to swim in Lake 841 00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:24,260 Candlewood. That thing is just a puddle. It's, you know, 842 00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:26,900 Candlewood lake up and, you know, we're familiar with that. 843 00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:31,940 And going up in New York, that was the first man made lake. It 844 00:45:31,940 --> 00:45:34,280 was a lake, yeah. And they basically pumped water out of 845 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,340 the Housatonic River into the Candlewood Valley. They created 846 00:45:37,340 --> 00:45:40,960 a lake. They dammed both ends, and it's essentially a battery. 847 00:45:41,020 --> 00:45:44,080 But they have recreational squats pond. Does that ring a 848 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,900 bell? No, really? No. There's a lot of New Yorkers used to come 849 00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:48,520 up to Candlewood or squats. Pond 850 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,500 was the one that we used to go hang out. 851 00:45:50,740 --> 00:45:53,260 He was too busy. Welch baseball 852 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,380 music. Watches Lake. Welch Lake, I think it was called. It was 853 00:45:56,380 --> 00:45:59,440 not too far out from from Rockland County. Yeah, that's 854 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,040 what happened. I ended up playing double headers on 855 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,740 Saturday and Sunday, and really, just like, what was the ante? 856 00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:09,600 And, you know, I mean, it was, you know, whatever. But, you 857 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,840 know, I still like to throw the ball around and play baseball, 858 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,660 and, you know, do a little bit of this and that, and follow the 859 00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:18,540 game a little bit. But, you know, so, 860 00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:20,660 you know, Larry, like, when I'm into, like, you know, I'm in the 861 00:46:20,660 --> 00:46:23,600 grocery store and I'm trying to find the perfect avocado, and I 862 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,680 hear a song I play on it comes on, it's still, still pretty 863 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,380 fun. You pat yourself on the back a little bit like I did 864 00:46:30,380 --> 00:46:33,020 that. Man, there's not a lot of people do that. So you see 865 00:46:33,020 --> 00:46:34,400 yourself on the television show. You 866 00:46:34,460 --> 00:46:38,240 don't watch myself. No, no, you don't watch it. No, I hate it. 867 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,060 Yeah. It's one of the reasons why I didn't want to be on a 868 00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:44,200 Sopranos. Because if I was on a sopranos, I couldn't watch it. 869 00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:47,620 And I read, you asked to be, we know, I never approached it. 870 00:46:47,620 --> 00:46:51,580 Man, there was a whole chapter or two of my life that after the 871 00:46:51,580 --> 00:46:54,400 K of Queens and after the Kristen Chenoweth show, that had 872 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,220 nothing to do with the entertainment industry, there 873 00:46:57,220 --> 00:47:00,040 was a lot to go on with my screenwriting and so on and so 874 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,820 forth like that, but I kind of started doing other things, 875 00:47:02,820 --> 00:47:05,640 which is, you know, a conversation for another day. 876 00:47:06,180 --> 00:47:10,800 And, yeah, because of just the environment of Hollywood in 877 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,280 general, yeah, I don't necessarily vibe with it at, you 878 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,540 know, 100% I vibe at maybe 50. And if you don't want to vibe 879 00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:21,920 with it 100% you're kind of not in the league, you know, right? 880 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,480 So a lot like being in a mob, you 881 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,000 know, you didn't ever have Lee Remini coming over and be like, 882 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,860 Hey, have you heard of Scientology? 883 00:47:27,980 --> 00:47:29,960 Yes, she definitely brought that up a 884 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,900 few for reals, yeah. She certainly changed her tune on 885 00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:33,500 it. She 886 00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:36,500 changed her tune on it, yeah, for whatever reasons it may be, 887 00:47:36,620 --> 00:47:39,800 you know. And you know, Patton Oswalt is an atheist, and Lee is 888 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,780 a Scientologist. So that was the but that never became a problem 889 00:47:43,780 --> 00:47:46,180 with me on the set. I'm always a person that you know, you 890 00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:48,400 believe what you want to believe. Just don't, you know, 891 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,280 don't try and jam something down my, you know, throat, you know 892 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,920 what? I mean. Yeah, whatever, bro, I don't care. Yeah, 893 00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:58,240 Oswald, though he's, he's, uh, he's a genius, real smart, 894 00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:01,860 seemingly, like I've seen him on, like, game shows, yeah, in 895 00:48:01,860 --> 00:48:04,380 jeopardy. He knows all the words, yeah. Apparently knows 896 00:48:04,380 --> 00:48:05,580 Yeah. Seems like, it seems 897 00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:07,920 like maybe they give you a study book. If you're gonna go on 898 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,860 those, those shows, they're gonna be like, here it is. It's 899 00:48:10,860 --> 00:48:13,500 this thing. Like, it can ask you any of these things, you know, 900 00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:16,140 and it's up to you, as you know, to put in your bathroom time 901 00:48:16,140 --> 00:48:19,260 and, like, you know, study the book, yeah? But so, okay, so 902 00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:23,540 this is so fun to hear. Let's, let's talk. Maybe pull up the 903 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:28,220 trailer to Saturday in the park. Yeah. And the music to Saturday 904 00:48:28,220 --> 00:48:32,240 in the park is a collection of kind of, like, rock inspired 905 00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:34,880 remakes, like, hey, let's do something in the spirit of like 906 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,540 this. You know, this ace freely song from aces solo record. And 907 00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:41,860 then there's some, what I would call take a drum set and throw 908 00:48:41,860 --> 00:48:45,340 him down a staircase, kind of my wild improvisations. It was 909 00:48:45,340 --> 00:48:49,360 basically improvisational drum set that was used to create like 910 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:53,380 energy from scene to scene, right? Am I right saying that, 911 00:48:53,380 --> 00:48:57,220 right? So that's what the score consists of, right? And this is 912 00:48:57,220 --> 00:49:01,800 the trailer that is going to promote the movie that is coming 913 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,560 out this year, give everybody a taste of the movie. Yeah, here 914 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:05,220 we go. Yeah. 915 00:49:06,420 --> 00:49:09,060 1986 New York City. Oh 5050. 916 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,040 Fuck the five. Oh, I'm telling you, may catch is on the news. 917 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,720 He's come down on all this graffiti, 918 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:19,740 rock and roll, hip hop. Y'all know these guys beat my fucking 919 00:49:19,740 --> 00:49:23,840 meat. B murder, dirty cops. John Gotti. The mob runs everything. 920 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:27,320 John Gotti runs everything. And neighborhood friends for life. 921 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaking about his shame in a waste, Where's your friend? 922 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,780 Oh, fuck Angelo. Stop him. He's got my money. What's he talking 923 00:49:32,780 --> 00:49:35,900 about? He's full of shit. That guy. Well, look who it is, 924 00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:37,940 Manhattan, Danny. Stop you 925 00:49:37,940 --> 00:49:40,460 and your friend. Mikey, playing at double music all the time. 926 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,000 You're not kids don't walk. It's not devil music. The name of the 927 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,580 band is the devil maniacs. It's devil music. 928 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,420 It was one night in the time of their lives, a hell of a 929 00:49:49,420 --> 00:49:51,940 drummer, you wouldn't wake it right up there with the best we 930 00:49:51,940 --> 00:49:56,140 can fucking make it me and you and never let nothing stand in 931 00:49:56,140 --> 00:49:59,500 the way of your dreams when the past will collide with 932 00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:02,640 the future. Small bed man and Larry Davis, cops gonna wrap 933 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:03,900 them down so they tried to kill 934 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,640 him. The kids selling drugs. 935 00:50:06,780 --> 00:50:08,640 That looks like we ran out of internet. Hold on. 936 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:12,600 Hey, it's exciting, though. And here's another crazy, small 937 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,480 world. Is that the reason that you and I know each other, 938 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,520 Larry, is because we have a mutual friend, Michael, 939 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,720 goodnight, who's a he's a musician and a film editor in 940 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:24,800 Los Angeles. He does a lot of, you know, trailers and promos 941 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,980 and epks, and just like, you know, high level stuff, he's a 942 00:50:27,980 --> 00:50:32,900 fantastic editor. And over the years, he has edited reels for 943 00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:35,780 me and my friends. And then I found out he was a musician. 944 00:50:35,780 --> 00:50:38,720 Next thing I know, he's got this project called Warlords of Mars, 945 00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:41,380 which is basically him playing all the instruments. And then he 946 00:50:41,380 --> 00:50:44,920 has a neighbor next door that's this crazy, like boa Zappa type 947 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:48,580 poet. And the guy writes no lyrics. He just takes Michael's 948 00:50:48,580 --> 00:50:51,340 tracks and just starts riffing on these things, and it's pretty 949 00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:53,440 brilliant. Yeah, so Michael, Michael and I trade. He'll be 950 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,000 like, I'll be like, Hey, man, could you put my new 951 00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,160 motivational speaking reel together for me? It would 952 00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,620 usually cost this amount of money. And then I go and I'll 953 00:50:59,620 --> 00:51:03,000 play 1212, drum tracks. So yeah, so I think I probably had on 954 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,420 recorded like 20 tracks for him. Really good music too. Yeah, 955 00:51:06,420 --> 00:51:08,280 Mike, he's just some stuff together 956 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,100 too. Definitely, we definitely got down, man. 957 00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:14,880 He's a, he's a product of of living in the heart of show 958 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,720 business for decades. Just a nice guy and super smart. What's 959 00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:19,560 up? Michael, 960 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,820 yeah, no, like you said, right, exactly. He's a he's Orange 961 00:51:22,820 --> 00:51:26,480 County Hollywood guy, and he's, like, knows all this one and 962 00:51:26,540 --> 00:51:29,600 knows that one knows all the names, like, I know baseball. He 963 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,960 knows each actor's name. He knows what movies this is from, 964 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,180 what that's from, so on and so forth. So it's a good 965 00:51:35,180 --> 00:51:39,140 combination. And, yeah, when I first brought it up to him, I 966 00:51:39,140 --> 00:51:42,640 says, Hey, man, the movie is about a drummer and a guitar 967 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,700 player, and the lead character is a drummer. So why don't we 968 00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:49,000 get a drummer to you know? And initially somebody said for me 969 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,820 to play. I'm like, nah, nah, nah, nah. And it's like, oh, 970 00:51:51,820 --> 00:51:54,220 let's try rich Redmond. And I think he pulled I'm like, well, 971 00:51:54,220 --> 00:51:57,220 who's that guy? He's like, he pulls up a video of you playing 972 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,160 with slash Yeah, with slash Yeah, and Leanne rimes on 973 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,000 background, and 974 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,400 Winona Ryder and Paul Rogers. Yeah, it was sorry. What did I 975 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,440 say? Why not a writer? Oh yeah. Well, you know, 976 00:52:10,620 --> 00:52:13,680 yeah, there you go. Oh yeah. I don't know if she sings back up, 977 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,200 but yeah, they were hammering. I'm like, what this guy, you 978 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,000 know, this guy? He's like, Yeah, like, all right. 979 00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:20,480 Top guy too, right, yeah. And the 980 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,000 next thing I know, I got Larry Romano on the phone. Hey, rich. 981 00:52:23,060 --> 00:52:26,060 Larry Roman I'm like the guy from the King of Queens, yeah. 982 00:52:26,180 --> 00:52:28,520 And next thing you know, we're in the same room together. We're 983 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,160 doing the thing. So it's all these amazing, you know, small 984 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,580 worlds, human relationships, a really, really cool thing. So 985 00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,920 I'm excited for the film for you, because I know that it 986 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,120 started as an idea. It became a script. You put it up in New 987 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,180 York. You put it up in Los Angeles, you've filmed it. You 988 00:52:43,180 --> 00:52:46,000 put your heart and sweat into it. Everybody look it up. You 989 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,180 can look it up on IMDb and just kind of watch, you know, Larry 990 00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:51,820 and I socials, and we'll let you know when the film comes out. 991 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,000 Yeah, definitely keep a keep an eye out, because we're doing it 992 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,520 independently. We spoke about the, you know, how things have 993 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,360 changed in the business where, you know, used to cut a record, 994 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,720 you sell records, you sell CDs, you sell cassettes, and, you 995 00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:06,120 know, airplay and you can make a living. And same thing with 996 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,780 movies and social media and streaming has changed all of 997 00:53:09,780 --> 00:53:15,840 that. There is some upsides to it. But as far as the movie is 998 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,660 concerned, we, you know, we're going to hold private 999 00:53:18,660 --> 00:53:21,200 screenings. If anybody wants to have a private screening of the 1000 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,440 movie. They get a theater that's, we could do something 1001 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,900 like, yeah, you know, we're doing our own marketing, our own 1002 00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:28,040 distribution. I'd 1003 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,500 love to see it put up at the Franklin theater. I think that 1004 00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:33,080 would be perfect. It's a perfect, you know, like when the 1005 00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,980 the wrecking crew had that film about, you know, the the 1006 00:53:36,980 --> 00:53:39,680 Wrecking Crew in Los Angeles, they, they premiered the film 1007 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,700 there, and it was nice. It's perfect size for events. And, 1008 00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:45,160 you know, a little bit of the press can come out, and some 1009 00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,400 cute little downtown Franklin that might be, you know, that 1010 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,940 might be a thing. And, and, God, in Los Angeles, where we could 1011 00:53:51,940 --> 00:53:55,720 do it somewhere, I know, a small little theater there somewhere 1012 00:53:55,720 --> 00:53:57,340 on Santa Monica or something, you 1013 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,180 know, very big movie. Well, yeah, it's 1014 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,240 interesting Los Angeles has changed very much for the not 1015 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:10,200 good, you know, yeah, it hasn't. It's not a place where, you 1016 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,780 know, Neil Diamond said, LA is fine. The sun shines all the 1017 00:54:12,780 --> 00:54:16,740 time. LA is about to rent, being low. So you could be an artist, 1018 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,080 you know, and you could, you know, hang in there. And we 1019 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,740 talked about this last time we're together is that, you 1020 00:54:21,740 --> 00:54:27,980 know, New York is, New York is hanging in there. I could say, 1021 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,540 you know, Los Angeles is, is not doing very well. Yeah, was the 1022 00:54:32,540 --> 00:54:35,120 last time you were out there. I've been out there three times 1023 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,800 this year. So I was out there just for June 7, and so when I 1024 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,480 was out there last month. And, you know, it's just not a place 1025 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,940 where it's not what it was. 1026 00:54:46,540 --> 00:54:49,000 It is not affordable for an upcoming artist, that's 1027 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,360 not affordable and, you know, and is something that goes with 1028 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:56,380 that grind, that creates that creativity, you know, you know. 1029 00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:59,740 So, you know, it's just collective mindset, yeah, and 1030 00:54:59,740 --> 00:55:04,320 I've. Find that St Louis has a much better environment for 1031 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,200 artists. You know, much better environment. Yeah, much better 1032 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,600 environment. Because you're not to worry about this high 1033 00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,860 overhead. And 475, $5 for a gallon of gas, and you got to 1034 00:55:13,860 --> 00:55:16,800 drive everywhere. You know, we're looking at reasonable 1035 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,860 overhead. Is there a lot of gentrification going on in St 1036 00:55:19,860 --> 00:55:22,880 Louis as well, I hope not. Is there? Is there? A lot of, 1037 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,460 are there. 1038 00:55:26,060 --> 00:55:29,180 I live on a hill, and it's, you know, it was, it was originally 1039 00:55:29,180 --> 00:55:32,360 called day go Hill, which is a derogatory name for Italians, 1040 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,260 which they really don't bother me at all. Guinea and wop does 1041 00:55:36,260 --> 00:55:40,220 Yes, but they go, kind of sounds cool, but yes. And, you know, 1042 00:55:40,220 --> 00:55:44,140 there is some benefits to, you know, but there are places where 1043 00:55:44,140 --> 00:55:47,080 you could really, you know, buckle down if you're an artist. 1044 00:55:47,860 --> 00:55:51,700 One thing for sure, though, still in New York and Los 1045 00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:56,260 Angeles, well, Los Angeles, if somebody got a gig in LA they're 1046 00:55:56,260 --> 00:55:59,800 showing up. If somebody has an opportunity in Los Angeles, 1047 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:06,060 they're showing up sometimes, I think in St Louis, my 1048 00:56:06,060 --> 00:56:11,280 experiences is that somebody has a chance to do something, they 1049 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,100 might blow it off, yeah, you know, because they don't 1050 00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:18,660 recognize the actual opportunity that's there. You know, when Los 1051 00:56:18,660 --> 00:56:21,680 Angeles, they're starving for the opportunity in New York, 1052 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,660 they're probably, they're starving more for the 1053 00:56:23,660 --> 00:56:26,720 opportunity. They're going to show up. But we got to bring 1054 00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:30,380 back in person auditions, this, going this, the actors cannot be 1055 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,080 continually going on camera for auditions 1056 00:56:33,860 --> 00:56:36,080 seven years, years, right? 1057 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,980 Some of the cast of The Office is from St Louis, Jenna Fisher 1058 00:56:39,980 --> 00:56:40,600 and 1059 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,600 Phyllis, whoever played 1060 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,060 to a lot of times. Jim loves the office. There's a lot of talent 1061 00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:48,040 that's come out of St Louis already, you know. But 1062 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,800 why did you when you left Los Angeles? Why did you pick St 1063 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:51,520 Louis? Of all the 1064 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,280 cities, I didn't really pick it. Okay, guys kind of picked me in 1065 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,820 some way. It's there's a whole other story of how I ended up 1066 00:56:57,820 --> 00:57:02,040 having to leaving Los Angeles because I got I I'm a cancer 1067 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,240 survivor myself, so, you know, go down to 125 pounds in St 1068 00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:09,480 Louis, and Los Angeles is really kicking my tail. And I had two 1069 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,480 German Shepherd dogs that I didn't want to put into a pound. 1070 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,720 So I just kind of got in my vehicle, and I tried it out 1071 00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:18,540 there in Henderson, Nevada, for a little while. And there's a 1072 00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:21,080 whole other story there, where I had to tip out of there, but 1073 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,540 somebody told me that my dogs could live outside, and I had to 1074 00:57:23,540 --> 00:57:27,200 tell her, no, you live outside. I know Henderson very well. 1075 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,020 It's, it's it's nice. I like it in the wintertime because it's 1076 00:57:30,020 --> 00:57:34,940 cool and all of that. But when, when, when you whatever you want 1077 00:57:34,940 --> 00:57:38,600 to say, the woman that you're living with suddenly tells you 1078 00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,460 that it's okay for your dogs to live outside. Where I stand on 1079 00:57:42,460 --> 00:57:46,000 that is, it's okay for you to live outside, because you're not 1080 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,060 putting my dogs outside. So next thing I know, I'm packing up my 1081 00:57:49,060 --> 00:57:53,020 truck and I'm, that's my country western song, got my dogs and 1082 00:57:53,020 --> 00:57:56,620 mctuck, and it's, I couldn't head west again. I headed east, 1083 00:57:56,620 --> 00:57:59,500 yeah. And I ended up, you know, hitting St Louis. I ended up 1084 00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:01,800 coming down to Nashville, checking it out a little bit, 1085 00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:06,060 which to tell you, man, I got into Nashville and I tasted that 1086 00:58:06,060 --> 00:58:10,500 traffic, and I'm like, No bueno, man, I'm not doing this was in 1087 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,100 2018 oh, really, yeah, it's much worse. Now 1088 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,500 the entire state of California is moving here. I 1089 00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:23,420 mean, I just was another thing too, right? And then, you know, 1090 00:58:23,420 --> 00:58:26,180 you go up to St Louis, where everything is 12 minutes away. 1091 00:58:26,300 --> 00:58:26,540 Hey, 1092 00:58:26,540 --> 00:58:28,880 wait, there's St Louis. They got some barbecue. 1093 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,340 They got some Yeah, okay, the city got pretty little women, 1094 00:58:34,340 --> 00:58:41,260 and so to St Louis. Yeah, some, yeah, single and mingle, yeah. 1095 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,740 Just got out of a nice relationship that really was not 1096 00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:47,920 didn't end the way I wanted it to, but I wrote a couple songs 1097 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,140 about it. So there you go. What you got? You got some walking 1098 00:58:50,140 --> 00:58:52,840 papers that you could turn into some creative man. I couldn't be 1099 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,760 any happier, right now, that's for sure. 1100 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:58,000 You have the attack like the Italian draw, the Taylor 1101 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,800 Sheridan shows like Tulsa King that have come out. It's a 1102 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,700 sliced alone production, right? Yeah, any interest in, you know? 1103 00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:08,520 Hey, you've worked with them before. I mean, sure, bring a 1104 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:09,540 ding. Ding. Hey, you 1105 00:59:09,540 --> 00:59:12,360 know, if they want to put me in a room with a cast in there, 1106 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:12,540 right? 1107 00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:14,760 I mean, we'll cut through all the red tape of casting 1108 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:16,260 directors and go in the back door. 1109 00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:20,420 Well, you know, she said, you know, it could, who knows what 1110 00:59:20,420 --> 00:59:23,240 happens, you know. I mean, who knows how it happens? I'm here, 1111 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,300 um, listen, if there's a good part and I'm, you know, and it's 1112 00:59:26,300 --> 00:59:29,300 a good, you know, there's, like, if there's a good part and 1113 00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:32,960 there's good people involved, if I could show up and, you know, 1114 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:36,260 I'm able to do it, I would. He's got interested. But rock and 1115 00:59:36,260 --> 00:59:38,960 roll, really music, you know, that's my thing, man, yeah, 1116 00:59:39,020 --> 00:59:39,440 yeah. He 1117 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,400 seems like that. The Taylor Sheridan universe seems to have 1118 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,700 a lot of a certain kind of bent to it. You know what? I mean, 1119 00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:50,500 there's a land man, land man as well. A great show, yeah, you 1120 00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:53,080 know, in the Tulsa King Courtney and I have really been enjoying 1121 00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:57,640 watching it. You got Frank Grillo, who's now in it, yeah? 1122 00:59:57,820 --> 01:00:02,340 James Russo got in there too. I really. Yeah. I mean, sure, man, 1123 01:00:02,340 --> 01:00:06,000 I look, I got a screenplay that Sylvester Stallone, if I, if he 1124 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,860 was to be in it, I would love to direct a minute and it's, it's 1125 01:00:10,860 --> 01:00:14,640 something that I was working on. One director that was attached 1126 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,220 to it for a while was the director who directed Rocky and 1127 01:00:17,220 --> 01:00:20,600 Karate Kid, John G avidson, yeah. So I would love to work 1128 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,540 with Sylvester Stallone in that capacity, directing him, because 1129 01:00:23,540 --> 01:00:24,500 it's the role of 1130 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,100 it's a role that he would really do well. And, yeah, 1131 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,100 yeah, he seems like a really nice guy. It was nice to me. 1132 01:00:31,460 --> 01:00:33,020 Yeah, you know, I met his brother, 1133 01:00:33,020 --> 01:00:35,720 you know? Oh, yeah, Frank, yeah. He's a musician, 1134 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,120 but I got you some stories. But, I mean, we have Frank. I mean, 1135 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,020 God, he wrote the music for a lot of the films, yeah, you 1136 01:00:41,020 --> 01:00:44,260 know. And that's him harmonizing at the trash can with the fire 1137 01:00:44,260 --> 01:00:46,780 in the alley. They're doing the thing right, yeah. What other 1138 01:00:46,780 --> 01:00:47,020 movie 1139 01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:48,880 Roadhouse too, wasn't he 1140 01:00:50,140 --> 01:00:53,500 was the one with Mickey ROG Barfly. Barfly, yeah, Mickey 1141 01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:54,580 plays Bukowski. 1142 01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:58,900 It was another movie that he was in, though, Frank Stallone that 1143 01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:02,820 I we just watched it. Gosh, but he was, I worked in radio in Las 1144 01:01:02,820 --> 01:01:06,000 Vegas for four years, and we used to have a whole bunch of 1145 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,580 people coming through the stations at the time, and he 1146 01:01:08,580 --> 01:01:10,800 came in, I'm like, looking at, you know, I was getting in 1147 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,960 there, putting my stuff down. All the morning shows are doing 1148 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,260 their thing, and you never know who you run into at this at 1149 01:01:16,260 --> 01:01:19,860 these stations. So he's just kind of following me around. And 1150 01:01:19,860 --> 01:01:21,980 I go to get my coffee. And he's like, Hey, can I get some 1151 01:01:21,980 --> 01:01:24,800 coffee? I'm like, yeah, come on, you know, what do you you know, 1152 01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,500 what station you on? He's like, I'm going to be on ksfn and 1153 01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:30,560 kluc. I'm like, oh, you know, what do you do? He's like, Oh, 1154 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,260 I'm an actor and a musician. I'm like, Cool. What have you know, 1155 01:01:33,260 --> 01:01:36,260 what have you been? She's like, Oh, my name is Frank Stallone. 1156 01:01:36,260 --> 01:01:38,000 I'm like, oh, that's how I know you. 1157 01:01:39,620 --> 01:01:43,480 Hey, great guy. Totally cool. You got Pacino, you got Deb, you 1158 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,380 got pen, you got me. So these guys, plus all have different 1159 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:52,840 styles of working, styles of preparing any any fun stories or 1160 01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,460 insights for the actors out there. 1161 01:01:54,460 --> 01:01:56,980 Well, Al Pacino didn't say much to me on the set, but that's 1162 01:01:56,980 --> 01:02:00,040 because the two characters were like he was. He was my father 1163 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,480 and he didn't like me very much, you know, but then Johnny Depp 1164 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,900 and I, we got along very well. He gave me the CD to his music 1165 01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:11,040 as a band called P really good stuff. Yeah. So that was John. 1166 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,740 Now he's in the Hollywood Vampires. There. He goes crazy 1167 01:02:13,740 --> 01:02:15,060 with Alice Cooper, right? Crazy. And 1168 01:02:15,060 --> 01:02:17,940 he got to play with Jeff Beck, right? So, like, Come on, let's 1169 01:02:17,940 --> 01:02:22,820 be real. And I was still on, was just great to work with. For me, 1170 01:02:23,060 --> 01:02:25,820 yeah, it was really cool to work with. Madonna. Was really great 1171 01:02:25,820 --> 01:02:29,480 to work with. Yeah, so Kristen channel with, there was some 1172 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,180 really fun people to work with. Without a doubt. I didn't have 1173 01:02:32,180 --> 01:02:35,600 any scenes with Sean Penn, but we were in the jungles of 1174 01:02:36,380 --> 01:02:39,020 Australia for five months, so I had a lot of start a lot of 1175 01:02:39,020 --> 01:02:43,300 stories on set for five months when a world war two movie, 1176 01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:47,620 yeah, sweat and humidity, you know, had to get a bunch of 1177 01:02:47,620 --> 01:02:50,740 shots, I bet. Well, yeah, malaria, well, yeah, none of 1178 01:02:50,740 --> 01:02:53,980 that stuff, man. But, you know, they gave us the heads up not to 1179 01:02:53,980 --> 01:02:55,840 swim in the ocean by the estuaries, because the 1180 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,260 crocodiles go out into the ocean to the sea. We're by the Coral 1181 01:02:59,260 --> 01:03:02,580 Sea. And you know about some kind of bird you could head 1182 01:03:02,580 --> 01:03:06,900 monk, you and kill you, yeah, a bunch of spiders and snakes and 1183 01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:12,420 scorpions, yeah. And they got, but they got some people out 1184 01:03:12,420 --> 01:03:15,420 there, really cool people, and I've still remained in contact 1185 01:03:15,420 --> 01:03:18,420 with a lot of them. So that was, that was just a great 1186 01:03:18,420 --> 01:03:22,160 experience. And, you know, and it was a great experience. I can 1187 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,800 have a, you know, that's something. And we didn't get to 1188 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,320 work with Sean Penn, but I got to hear a lot of stories. 1189 01:03:27,740 --> 01:03:32,180 Definitely, a lot of stories. Amazing. Yeah, yeah, man. And 1190 01:03:32,420 --> 01:03:33,680 so St Louis, since 2018 1191 01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:38,720 Yeah, 2019 19, yeah. There you go. And then, you know, of 1192 01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,620 course, COVID hit, and all that stuff. Kind of slowed stuff down 1193 01:03:41,620 --> 01:03:46,000 a little bit, yeah, and then still getting over, you know, 1194 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,560 injuries and stuff like that, and then, but it all, it always 1195 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,380 comes back to what's in your in your mind all the time, and it's 1196 01:03:53,380 --> 01:03:56,560 always going to be music, really, for me. I mean, movies 1197 01:03:56,560 --> 01:04:00,960 are fun, definitely, without a doubt, TV sitcoms are fun. You 1198 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:06,840 know? I know writing one is a chore. Writing a movie is less 1199 01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:12,900 of a chore, you know. And but when you get in that room with a 1200 01:04:12,900 --> 01:04:15,720 bunch of cats and you got the drums and the guitar going and 1201 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,400 the bass going, and it's like, it's 1202 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:21,320 terribly exciting, yeah, it's still, it's just never gets old, 1203 01:04:21,380 --> 01:04:24,680 not for me, you know, it doesn't. And I can't say movies 1204 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,800 or TV or movies got all for me, but I'm just saying when I wake 1205 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,680 up in the morning or when I go to bed at night, it's always a 1206 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,200 rhythm or something to that effect. Right now, where I live, 1207 01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,840 I got a drum set in my living room, which I hadn't had since I 1208 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,480 was, you know, I never had a drum set in my living well, I 1209 01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,680 guess I did at one point in time, you know, St Louis, you 1210 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,440 got a house you get to open up, yeah, that's the other thing, 1211 01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,020 right? I got it. I got a spot, right? Like, I talked to good 1212 01:04:47,020 --> 01:04:49,720 night about that too. It's like, you know, because we've written 1213 01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,420 a couple songs together, yeah, where I would put a drum track 1214 01:04:52,420 --> 01:04:55,660 down in St Louis, and then blah, blah, blah. But like, if he was 1215 01:04:55,660 --> 01:04:59,020 in St Louis, all you got to do is come to the house, plug in 1216 01:04:59,020 --> 01:05:01,620 the bass. We got to re. Recorder. I got 12 track digital 1217 01:05:01,620 --> 01:05:04,920 recorder we could just create. Yeah, we're in Los Angeles, you 1218 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,500 know, he's got a cool apartment. But then if we wanted to do the 1219 01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:10,200 live drums, we got to go to amp, gotta go to amp, gotta go to 1220 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,380 amp. Which amp is great, yeah? Like 75 bucks an hour. Well, 1221 01:05:13,380 --> 01:05:16,140 yeah, you know, they could get by for a little less, but still, 1222 01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:19,020 right? Exactly, you know, by the time you end up with all of that 1223 01:05:19,020 --> 01:05:26,000 stuff. And, you know, so but being an independent artist in 1224 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,580 today's world, there's a definitely a lot of Vantage to 1225 01:05:28,580 --> 01:05:30,920 it, like he says, we could have a showing of the movie with his 1226 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,680 wizard theater down here, the Franklin the Franklin theater. 1227 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,680 You got the Tivoli up in the high point up in St Louis. We 1228 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,780 got here and there. And just let it go. And you know, the people 1229 01:05:40,780 --> 01:05:43,720 that are in the audience right now, if they want to really see 1230 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:47,020 some new stuff out there and and keep it alive. And 1231 01:05:47,020 --> 01:05:49,960 what about the festivals? How do you could you get it into the 1232 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,480 Telluride and the Venice and the 1233 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,180 I've been through the festivals with a movie as a producer, 1234 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,960 yeah? And, you know, my honest opinion on festivals is that 1235 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,040 bogus, man, 1236 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,540 is it like some serious politics for winning as bogus, 1237 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,720 interesting. They have agendas, you know, all of this stuff, 1238 01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,780 when the bigger ones probably have more agendas where they're 1239 01:06:09,780 --> 01:06:13,980 trying to push like a social whatever, which, you know, they 1240 01:06:13,980 --> 01:06:17,040 trying to make it that it's supposed to be art imitates 1241 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,360 life, but that what they're trying to do is they're supposed 1242 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:23,960 to have, they're trying to have life imitate art. And you can't 1243 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,920 do that, man, you know. And it's, they're doing it, but it's 1244 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,880 failing. You know, the they might make these big tent hole, 1245 01:06:31,940 --> 01:06:36,320 tent hole, tent hole, tent pole movies, right? But like, at the 1246 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,080 end of the day, it's, there's, they don't. It's like, what do 1247 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,680 you watching some guy flying around in pantyhose, make him 1248 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,320 believe he's a spider, or make him believe. Like, I mean, there 1249 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,280 are people that love this stuff, but like, for me, like, I don't 1250 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,980 want to give two hours of my life, where, what do I get out 1251 01:06:50,980 --> 01:06:54,820 of watching a guy making believe he's a spider? Spider? Man, 1252 01:06:54,820 --> 01:06:57,760 yeah. Well, whoever, spider super, this guy, that. Man, 1253 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:57,940 you're 1254 01:06:58,060 --> 01:07:00,960 not a big fan of the Marvel movies or anything. Oh, 1255 01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,460 no, because, I mean, like I said, people that are, God bless 1256 01:07:05,460 --> 01:07:08,220 it. It's all well and good, but I don't want to give I watched, 1257 01:07:08,220 --> 01:07:10,320 you know, the Pope, McCarthy village. I watched rocky I 1258 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,460 watched the godfather. I watched, you know, for unlawful 1259 01:07:14,460 --> 01:07:17,880 carnal not carnal knowledge. Was like you watch these movies from 1260 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,020 Bangor, watch Woody, Allen movies, when you come out of it. 1261 01:07:21,020 --> 01:07:23,600 You know, not only did you have some laughs or did you enjoy the 1262 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,420 story, but you come out of it like a little bit, like with a 1263 01:07:26,420 --> 01:07:28,640 bit of life that might enhance your 1264 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:33,320 life. Woody Allen can write. He's great, great clarinet, 1265 01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:37,460 clarinet player too, yeah. And I just had these guys. These guys 1266 01:07:37,460 --> 01:07:40,180 are from the Midwest. They never really experienced Woody. And, 1267 01:07:40,180 --> 01:07:43,060 you know, I put the Woody Allen movie on for them. I think it 1268 01:07:43,060 --> 01:07:46,180 was Danny Hall. No, I put Hannah and Her Sisters on. Ah, okay, 1269 01:07:46,180 --> 01:07:48,400 see, Could you, could you imagine I'm watching Hannah and 1270 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,460 Her Sisters, and I just watching the whole thing play out. And 1271 01:07:51,460 --> 01:07:53,860 these guys started watching it, too. Yeah, you know, because 1272 01:07:53,860 --> 01:07:56,500 they start going, Wow, they draw you in, because it's real life, 1273 01:07:56,500 --> 01:07:59,680 real it's real human beings. Yes, you know, that's 1274 01:08:00,340 --> 01:08:03,960 interesting. So you know when part of the plot at towards the 1275 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,140 end of Saturday in the park is, is when you know the two 1276 01:08:07,140 --> 01:08:10,020 characters are trying to decide, what are we going to do? We got 1277 01:08:10,020 --> 01:08:12,300 to get out of here. We got to go try to make it. We're not 1278 01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:16,260 getting any younger. And they mentioned, oh my god, David Lee 1279 01:08:16,260 --> 01:08:19,800 Roth just quit Van Halen. He put his own band together with this 1280 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:23,960 guy named Billy Sheehan and Greg Bissonette on the drums. Next 1281 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:28,400 thing I know, we sent the trailer to Greg. Greg is so 1282 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,400 happy to be named. Dropped in the movie. Billy is happy to be 1283 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,280 named the movie we went and we broke bread with Billy over at 1284 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,940 brick tops, yes, in Cool Springs, yeah. So they're so 1285 01:08:37,940 --> 01:08:38,540 happy. But, 1286 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,440 you know, I'm so happy. They're happy. That was a big part of my 1287 01:08:41,440 --> 01:08:44,440 life. And we would Mike nickel from Germany, yep, my bro from 1288 01:08:44,440 --> 01:08:47,080 Germany, which was I wanted, that's great. Billy picked up 1289 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,440 the tab. Thank you, Bill. Thanks. How's it going? And I 1290 01:08:50,440 --> 01:08:53,560 saw Greg Bissonette in Los Angeles. He actually remembered 1291 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,960 a whole bunch of lines from the movie, and then he bought me. 1292 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:58,960 Then I said, I was like, Wow, where did you guys go? Forgot 1293 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,740 the name of the place, but it was in Westlake Village, Los 1294 01:09:01,740 --> 01:09:06,060 Angeles, and you know, he's on tour with Ringo now, yeah, but 1295 01:09:06,300 --> 01:09:10,740 you know, that's that time. Okay, so 1984 the album came 1296 01:09:10,740 --> 01:09:14,340 out. Right then 85 Dave came out with crazy from the heat, which 1297 01:09:14,340 --> 01:09:18,120 was an EP going crazy from the heat. California Girls, 1298 01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,539 just a gigolo and TV 1299 01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:26,420 and I always love Van Halen, like, I tell you, Danny Spitz 1300 01:09:26,420 --> 01:09:29,420 came to my house with Anthony Amendola back in, I guess, 78 1301 01:09:30,140 --> 01:09:32,780 and we they bring this their amplifiers, and I got the drum 1302 01:09:32,780 --> 01:09:35,300 set, and they're like, Did you ever hear this band called Van 1303 01:09:35,480 --> 01:09:38,420 Halen? But back then, like you listen to a song on the radio if 1304 01:09:38,420 --> 01:09:41,020 you didn't stay in the car until they came and told you who the 1305 01:09:41,020 --> 01:09:44,020 band was. So I was like, Nah, I never heard of Van Halen. And 1306 01:09:44,140 --> 01:09:46,480 they started ripping up any talking about love. I was like, 1307 01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:49,720 Oh, I know these guys, you know. And then then I had taken a trip 1308 01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:52,600 to California to see my Uncle Pete with the gold records on 1309 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,360 the wall, and I met cousins that I didn't know I had. And it was 1310 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,020 like the California thing, man, like, whoa, wow. Like, couldn't 1311 01:09:59,020 --> 01:10:02,220 wait till they come back. Like, yeah, like, you know, we're from 1312 01:10:02,220 --> 01:10:04,560 New York. Like, oh, you're from New York. That's really cool. 1313 01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,200 Like, really do you're from California. That's like, really 1314 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,260 cool too. Like, because that's where Eddie and Dave and Alex 1315 01:10:10,260 --> 01:10:13,740 and Michael Anthony come from. So now, when they go through 1316 01:10:13,740 --> 01:10:16,680 that breakup, I was like, man, it's like, my parents are 1317 01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:20,360 getting divorced. I was broken up. Like, man, what that? What's 1318 01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,240 that about, you know, that found its way into the film. Found the 1319 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,000 ways into the film, because that's a transition, too. And 1320 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,980 then, you know, so, 1321 01:10:27,980 --> 01:10:30,680 Larry, were you there on the Sunset Strip for the Sunset 1322 01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:32,240 Strip? Golden Era? 1323 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:36,800 Yeah, many nights. 8485 80 No, no. Came a little later, a 1324 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:40,160 little later. 86 a little bit so Guns and Roses, yeah, like 1325 01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,420 little bit of them, right? Exactly. Um, yeah, it was 1326 01:10:43,420 --> 01:10:46,780 happening, and it was happening up until the 90s, right? Whiskey 1327 01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,840 Viper. You go to the rainbow late night, you run into Ron 1328 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,500 Jeremy. He's playing the Pac Man Machine. You get a slice. You 1329 01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:55,900 end up in the red leather seats. And you never know who you're 1330 01:10:55,900 --> 01:10:58,420 gonna end up in a seat with at the red leather seat with, 1331 01:10:58,420 --> 01:11:01,020 yeah, uh, LA, was Grace. Did you 1332 01:11:01,020 --> 01:11:05,280 read their book? No brothers. Alex put it out. It's actually 1333 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:10,560 right behind you there the shelf. Yeah, that's one. Next 1334 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,940 one. Basically, it's a great book, yeah, and he I actually 1335 01:11:14,940 --> 01:11:18,660 listened to it. Alex read it, okay, and it's a really 1336 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,620 interesting take on it goes right on up to the point where 1337 01:11:21,620 --> 01:11:26,360 they make 1984 he does not give any attention to Sammy Hagar, 1338 01:11:27,260 --> 01:11:28,040 yeah, 1339 01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,380 it was, you know, they came up with some good songs. They 1340 01:11:30,380 --> 01:11:34,160 definitely got some good songs. But after you was Van Halen, was 1341 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,580 David Lee Roth, there's no doubt about it. And then, you know, 1342 01:11:37,580 --> 01:11:41,680 obviously I was broken up over this and the fella, this fella 1343 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,160 that he was actually a catcher on a baseball team that I was 1344 01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,260 playing with the Scarsdale Redskins at the time, guy, 1345 01:11:47,260 --> 01:11:51,040 vodka. And I'm like, Oh, man. I was all, he's, no wait, man, 1346 01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:55,660 bro, David Lee Rock, got Billy Sheehan on base. Why? Well, like 1347 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,900 a super band, yeah. Oh, he's got Stevie VI and great. I'm like, 1348 01:11:58,900 --> 01:12:01,500 really? And then I went and got that first eat them and smile 1349 01:12:01,500 --> 01:12:05,280 out like, Oh, wow. These guys are happening. So they made 1350 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,800 their way into the script because they were a big part of, 1351 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,280 like, helping me getting over Van Halen breaking up that eat 1352 01:12:11,460 --> 01:12:14,460 them and smile album was just off the charts. Man. That was 1353 01:12:14,460 --> 01:12:17,100 good one right at the next and then when I loved it, right? And 1354 01:12:17,100 --> 01:12:19,740 then I went to go see him live, they were like, Whoa. You know 1355 01:12:19,860 --> 01:12:23,360 Greg Bissonette wasn't he's done some acting himself. He's Winnie 1356 01:12:23,420 --> 01:12:25,040 the Pooh. He's Winnie the Pooh. Did you 1357 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:28,100 know that voice act? So Greg didn't tell you when you broke 1358 01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:31,340 bread. So, so Greg has been the voice of Winnie the Pooh for 1359 01:12:31,340 --> 01:12:35,360 like, a decade, really, yeah, because he's got that gravelly 1360 01:12:35,420 --> 01:12:38,300 voice. He's got a gargling with your razor blade kind of 1361 01:12:38,660 --> 01:12:42,700 voice. It's like a raspy voice, like listening to him, it makes 1362 01:12:42,700 --> 01:12:45,160 you want to catch your breath, yeah? Because you feel like he's 1363 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:46,000 running out of hand 1364 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,640 to watch it now. Well, you know what's really cool about him? 1365 01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,240 He's from Detroit, yeah, and Detroit, he was telling me his 1366 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,420 stories about living in Detroit, you know. And, you know, in the 1367 01:12:55,420 --> 01:12:58,000 movie, we didn't know, because, you know, there's no social 1368 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,320 media at that time, we thought he was a California guy. So they 1369 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,960 go commission. That's from California, but they do say 1370 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,500 something by Detroit. Yeah, you know, New York is like Detroit. 1371 01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:10,440 It's cold, which means that you spend your your winter time, 1372 01:13:10,440 --> 01:13:13,620 either in the basement or the garage, playing music. It's like 1373 01:13:13,620 --> 01:13:17,580 Detroit, man. But yeah, those guys really, they, they 1374 01:13:17,580 --> 01:13:20,480 definitely smooth it out. A lot of the pain of Van Halen 1375 01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:21,740 breaking up. What a cool thing. Well, 1376 01:13:21,740 --> 01:13:28,340 maybe Greg or Billy will get the trailer or will let no Stevie VI 1377 01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,660 that he's also name dropped in the movie. Only way I know how 1378 01:13:32,660 --> 01:13:35,480 to get to him is that I believe he's really good friends with 1379 01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:38,720 Dina Carter, and I know Dena Carter, but I think Greg would 1380 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,980 be a faster track to get to Stevie and let him know that, 1381 01:13:41,980 --> 01:13:44,200 you know, he's name dropped in the movie. I'm sure he'd get a 1382 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,140 kick out of he seems like a super nice guy. Okay, man. So, I 1383 01:13:47,140 --> 01:13:51,340 mean, what a, what a, what a history, a history in music and 1384 01:13:51,340 --> 01:13:55,120 film. The the movie is coming out this year. You got this 1385 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,520 song, God bless America. What are you gonna do with that? Man, 1386 01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:58,000 what you guys 1387 01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,480 gonna do? You know, I just let it ride, you know, man, people 1388 01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:02,820 want to hear it. And it takes, you know, it's about, you know, 1389 01:14:02,820 --> 01:14:05,520 we did some, we did one version with, you know, some of the 1390 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:09,720 original lyrics, and added third verse, And then I did another 1391 01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,600 version where I just put all my lyrics to it, because it's 1392 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:17,820 America 2025, we're living in. So, you know, what happens with 1393 01:14:17,820 --> 01:14:20,280 it nowadays? You know, if I, if we had a record label and a 1394 01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,940 publicist, would be on every radio station in America 1395 01:14:22,940 --> 01:14:23,480 tomorrow, right? 1396 01:14:23,660 --> 01:14:28,220 But nowadays, the people that need to find it will find it. 1397 01:14:28,220 --> 01:14:31,400 You kind of just, you know, you throw it against the wall and it 1398 01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:33,740 goes into your body of work. It's really great. It was so 1399 01:14:33,740 --> 01:14:35,720 cool to be involved with it. Brother, appreciate 1400 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,940 you. Yeah, and you really pulled it together, because it's like, 1401 01:14:37,940 --> 01:14:42,400 you know, once those drums are clicking, man, just jamming on 1402 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,040 it. You know, the drums are slamming, and then it just goes 1403 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:48,340 from there. Yeah, in the pocket. Way to go. Keep it simple, yeah. 1404 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,520 Hey, Larry, what is, what's your favorite color? 1405 01:14:52,420 --> 01:14:54,340 Geez, I think I'm gonna go blue. Okay, 1406 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:59,500 okay, we get a lot of blue. I want to think blue or black. I. 1407 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,260 Favorite 1408 01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:05,220 drink, favorite drink, yeah, well, it depends what day or 1409 01:15:05,220 --> 01:15:08,340 month or what you know, that stuff is, you know, I mean, as a 1410 01:15:08,340 --> 01:15:12,720 coffee, no drink, coffee. I'm off coffee for quite some time. 1411 01:15:13,020 --> 01:15:17,640 I was, I was, I was for quite some time, one of my favorite 1412 01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:22,400 drinks was water with barley, hops and yeast. Yeah, that was a 1413 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,560 favorite one. Then I took a little break off of that, but 1414 01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,060 that's coming back into the fold. Well, 1415 01:15:26,060 --> 01:15:29,540 when I met you a year ago, you were off the yeast 1416 01:15:29,660 --> 01:15:32,540 off. I was off. I go back and forth between drinking beer and 1417 01:15:32,540 --> 01:15:37,100 not drinking beer and standing by. But you know, a nice 1418 01:15:37,460 --> 01:15:42,100 pineapple juice, freshly squeezed vacation drink, orange 1419 01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:44,740 juice, freshly squeezed. You know what? I mean? Something 1420 01:15:44,740 --> 01:15:48,280 like that. Some nice juice. Green tea, nice. I mean, I used 1421 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,460 to really love coffee, but I love it too much, me too. Yeah, 1422 01:15:51,460 --> 01:15:54,520 I'm gonna have another one after this. I know. See, I'd be right 1423 01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,460 there with you, like, oh, let's get a pack, pack of Marlboro 1424 01:15:57,460 --> 01:16:00,960 reds and a whole pot of coffee. Yeah, that was high school. See, 1425 01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,160 that. Yeah, 1426 01:16:03,420 --> 01:16:07,620 my preference was camels. No filters. No, we had filters, but 1427 01:16:07,620 --> 01:16:08,820 it was camel wines, 1428 01:16:08,820 --> 01:16:13,320 okay, camel wise, yeah, yeah, man, yeah, you know. I mean, you 1429 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,960 know, you go to Europe and people smoke cigarettes, and I 1430 01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,600 don't have a problem with it. I have no problem whatsoever. They 1431 01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,020 are still puffing away over there. Yeah, I have no problem 1432 01:16:21,020 --> 01:16:21,980 with secondhand smoke. 1433 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,560 Yeah, it's actually kind of endearing, because once you're a 1434 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,360 smoker and you smell it, it's, 1435 01:16:26,780 --> 01:16:28,940 Oh, that smells. Yeah, right, it does. 1436 01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,840 It just makes me think I am in a dive bar, and I love this 1437 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,380 jukebox, and I love these people that I'm with and but, um, you 1438 01:16:36,380 --> 01:16:40,040 don't get that, that rustic, musty smell in the bars anymore, 1439 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,660 like you used to no except when we went and watched a band at 1440 01:16:43,660 --> 01:16:47,560 the Elks Lodge up in like, Gallatin, they all smoked, and 1441 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,740 they had the smoke eaters. It's like, oh, this is how a bar used 1442 01:16:51,700 --> 01:16:55,120 to as a place. St Peter's, like that too. Salvatore's, you could 1443 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:55,840 smoke in there. 1444 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,120 So how do they get around it in Gallatin? Because 1445 01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,300 that's part of Elks Lodge. I mean, it's like they write the 1446 01:17:00,300 --> 01:17:01,980 wrong rules. Yeah? Okay, gotcha, 1447 01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:04,860 yeah, that's another thing about too, about God bless America. 1448 01:17:04,860 --> 01:17:07,440 Like, you know, we got to start re, you know, writing our own 1449 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:10,560 rules again, man, you know, doing unhealthy things, yeah? 1450 01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:14,040 Like these, I mean, these whole universal rules, you know, like, 1451 01:17:14,340 --> 01:17:17,340 Yeah, I'm not, I'm totally not down with the fast food stuff, 1452 01:17:17,340 --> 01:17:18,960 because that's like, whatever, like, 1453 01:17:19,620 --> 01:17:21,020 our food supply has been poisoned. 1454 01:17:21,020 --> 01:17:23,780 So there are you probably really with the green tea, yeah, and 1455 01:17:23,780 --> 01:17:26,420 the no fast food and all that. That probably became part of 1456 01:17:26,420 --> 01:17:29,900 your, your modus operandi when you were treating your kid. We 1457 01:17:29,900 --> 01:17:30,020 all 1458 01:17:30,020 --> 01:17:32,600 remember when McDonald's before that, too, though, yeah, 1459 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,940 McDonald's tasted a lot different. Yeah, kids, 1460 01:17:34,940 --> 01:17:37,220 yeah, yeah. It was, like, fresh ingredients. It was awesome. 1461 01:17:37,220 --> 01:17:37,580 Yeah, it 1462 01:17:37,580 --> 01:17:38,540 was actually not bad. 1463 01:17:38,540 --> 01:17:40,820 Yeah. In Europe too, I was in Germany for a month, and you go 1464 01:17:40,820 --> 01:17:43,780 to McDonald's and it's like, wow, I want to go again. Yeah? 1465 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,420 It says, but now it's like, a real meal. Yeah, we Well, I 1466 01:17:46,420 --> 01:17:48,580 think that's another thing we're getting on the right track. Of 1467 01:17:48,580 --> 01:17:52,480 people are realizing how much poison that we actually eat. We 1468 01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:55,180 stopped in like, Marion, Illinois yesterday, get 1469 01:17:55,180 --> 01:17:57,340 something to eat. And I'm thinking, like, here we are in 1470 01:17:57,340 --> 01:18:01,020 the middle of all this farmland, and all all the food sources 1471 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:04,200 are, you know, processed food, yeah, right, genetically 1472 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,740 modified, you know. And, you know, that's one thing we can't 1473 01:18:07,740 --> 01:18:10,860 let happen to our music and our art, yeah, you know, we kind of 1474 01:18:10,860 --> 01:18:13,680 stay, you got to stay with, you know, doing our thing. Man, no 1475 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,800 computers, and just get out there and, you know, and bring 1476 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,900 back garage bands. Yeah, 1477 01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:23,660 there's one, there's some food guy that I don't mind, and that 1478 01:18:23,660 --> 01:18:28,520 is peanut. M, M's, I don't care what they're doing. I love it. I 1479 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,040 got, I got. That's my treat, you know, like one once a month or 1480 01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,320 whatever, I'll have my peanut. M, M's, you know, gotta try to 1481 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,540 keep it off the bus. That's, that's the deal once 1482 01:18:35,540 --> 01:18:41,140 for me. It's apparently, lately, the dove bar ice cream. Oh yeah, 1483 01:18:41,140 --> 01:18:42,580 that's good stuff. 1484 01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,600 Yeah, for me, it's been wayward woman lately. Yeah, this way 1485 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:50,140 would mean women with bow legged women. No, I don't know about 1486 01:18:50,140 --> 01:18:56,020 that, just I love them. Yeah, wayward women, 1487 01:18:56,440 --> 01:19:00,520 you're so like Richie, your character definition. Richie was 1488 01:19:00,580 --> 01:19:02,940 a ladies man. You know, he was single, he was single, he was a 1489 01:19:02,940 --> 01:19:04,140 ladies man. Hey, if I'm 1490 01:19:04,140 --> 01:19:07,800 a ladies man, but maybe you know man, but 1491 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:11,340 again, gonna getting back to the movies and everything like that. 1492 01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,360 What were we talked about? It yesterday? Jaws. 50th 1493 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,500 anniversary this month. 1494 01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:19,440 Keep me out of the ocean. I always love to go on the ocean. 1495 01:19:19,440 --> 01:19:20,720 Until I saw jaws. 1496 01:19:20,900 --> 01:19:23,540 Did it spark any sort of an acting thing for you? I mean, 1497 01:19:23,540 --> 01:19:25,700 especially the US. You 1498 01:19:25,700 --> 01:19:28,160 know, you guys studied the screenplay for it, because it's 1499 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,980 a great screenplay, but it really, JAWS just kept me out of 1500 01:19:30,980 --> 01:19:33,200 the ocean. Man, it's like, I'm not, I'm not down with the 1501 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,280 ocean. Man, God, 1502 01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:38,240 that movie now we are guests, yeah, we are guests their 1503 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,260 house. Yeah, no, I'm not down with that. You know, that's what 1504 01:19:41,260 --> 01:19:41,620 we share, 1505 01:19:41,620 --> 01:19:46,180 that snake, Scorpion, spiders and sharks, snakes, scorpions 1506 01:19:46,180 --> 01:19:50,380 and spiders. Those are the four S's, yeah, no, yeah, that's for 1507 01:19:50,380 --> 01:19:50,680 sure. 1508 01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,320 Another s in there too. 1509 01:19:54,340 --> 01:19:58,060 When they get to the sharks, and like the dangerous fish get to 1510 01:19:58,060 --> 01:19:59,920 the Hudson River, they probably turn around and. 1511 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,600 Well, now it's clean. So interestingly enough, I found 1512 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,680 out this last year when Robert F Kennedy was integral in cleaning 1513 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,460 up the Hudson River. When I was a kid growing up in Rockland 1514 01:20:11,460 --> 01:20:14,160 County, the Hudson River was polluted. It was dead. You 1515 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:16,800 couldn't go nowhere near it. But he started something like the 1516 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:20,360 River Keeper. He actually got the corporations to clean it up, 1517 01:20:20,900 --> 01:20:24,020 and it's pretty clean right now. You'll see dolphins in there. 1518 01:20:24,020 --> 01:20:27,380 You'll see, yeah, like the waterways have cleaned up, and 1519 01:20:27,380 --> 01:20:29,780 there's some other stuff going on, like, where I was in Queens, 1520 01:20:29,780 --> 01:20:32,000 I was living in college point for a little while, where they 1521 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,420 get oysters, and they put the incubate the oysters, and they 1522 01:20:35,420 --> 01:20:39,080 put river oyster beds around the in the around the shoreline, and 1523 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,620 they clean the water. And the waters looks, you can see the 1524 01:20:41,620 --> 01:20:44,740 bottom in the Long Island Sound, it's really right in Queens, you 1525 01:20:44,740 --> 01:20:45,040 know, it's 1526 01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,980 crazy for me. I actually did a job down, I want to say around 1527 01:20:47,980 --> 01:20:52,840 Mount Vernon, probably more towards where the Whitestone is, 1528 01:20:53,140 --> 01:20:56,560 and heading back up. I'm like, you know, I got a half an hour 1529 01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,100 to kill. I've never been to city Island. It's like a resort, 1530 01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:02,940 yeah, it's interesting. It's a whole different world. You ever 1531 01:21:02,940 --> 01:21:04,140 been to city Island? Bronx, 1532 01:21:04,140 --> 01:21:06,960 New York, is an island. There's a movie called City Yeah, there 1533 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:07,200 is, 1534 01:21:07,260 --> 01:21:11,040 yeah, but it's a really, like a detachment from that whole area. 1535 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:14,580 Yeah, it's a village in the Bronx, right? Bronx is an 1536 01:21:14,580 --> 01:21:17,880 interesting place. I love it. I love it still. And each borough 1537 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,580 is different. Oh, sure is, yeah, each borough is different. But 1538 01:21:20,580 --> 01:21:23,360 that TV show that I did with Maloney, we shot in 1539 01:21:24,620 --> 01:21:29,060 Jamaica Queens at a in a real prison. There is a part of the 1540 01:21:29,060 --> 01:21:32,060 prison that they that is still functioning, and then a couple 1541 01:21:32,060 --> 01:21:34,940 of areas of the prison that they use to shoot television shows 1542 01:21:34,940 --> 01:21:39,020 like, I'm sure, like NYPD and CSI and all the all the lettered 1543 01:21:39,020 --> 01:21:42,220 shows, yeah, yeah. It's pretty crazy. The rights of passage 1544 01:21:42,220 --> 01:21:44,680 shows the rights of walking, walking down the hall, taking up 1545 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:45,940 the entire hallway, shows, yeah, 1546 01:21:47,620 --> 01:21:49,180 but it shall go to cool. 1547 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,100 Larry, what? What final question are your favorite? So you had 1548 01:21:54,100 --> 01:21:56,980 your favorite, favorite food. Favorite food? Which? 1549 01:21:56,980 --> 01:21:59,680 Fair Food? I mean, you know, lately, I've been just, you 1550 01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:04,620 know, eating spinach salads with garlic and, you know, I lay off 1551 01:22:04,620 --> 01:22:07,800 the tomatoes for a while with spinach, sounds with garlic 1552 01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:13,620 cloves and olive oil. Chicken like that. Yeah, chickens, okay. 1553 01:22:13,620 --> 01:22:17,100 I like steak. I like hamburgers, if I get obviously a good pizza 1554 01:22:17,100 --> 01:22:20,340 pie, you know, but I run the gamut, 1555 01:22:20,340 --> 01:22:24,860 man. Okay, so St Louis, did you find a good pizza place? I mean, 1556 01:22:25,460 --> 01:22:28,820 I can't say no, they obviously is different than New York. 1557 01:22:28,820 --> 01:22:31,100 There's the Pie Guy on Manchester. They're close to New 1558 01:22:31,100 --> 01:22:34,400 York. And Pizza de gloria is on the hill, and they make their 1559 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,800 own kind of pie or fresh ingredients. That's a really 1560 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,780 good spot. But, you know, coming from New York to New York, New 1561 01:22:40,780 --> 01:22:43,720 Jersey, Long Island. I mean, it's a different thing that 1562 01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,460 you're used to. Man, yeah, it's 1563 01:22:45,460 --> 01:22:49,540 Jim McCarthy. I, I'm a loose New Yorker, because we grew up on 1564 01:22:49,540 --> 01:22:52,540 the border. But, you know, and even Connecticut, where we were, 1565 01:22:52,540 --> 01:22:56,020 Connecticut got a pizza too, in New Haven, yeah, but we were, we 1566 01:22:56,020 --> 01:22:59,320 had the, we were the beneficiaries of Manhattan, you 1567 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,880 know, the Bronx, that kind of area of a town, good Italian, 1568 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,040 yeah, you could throw a rock and get 1569 01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:08,400 great. Yeah, that's the other thing. You know, the food in New 1570 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:12,240 York is, it's, it's tough, right? Yeah, it's tough to come 1571 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,980 anywhere else, yeah, you know, 1572 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,680 we went to Manhattan, Cami saying at 1573 01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:21,980 Carnegie Hall. Carnegie Hall. Carnegie 1574 01:23:21,980 --> 01:23:24,740 Hall, yeah, wow. How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice? 1575 01:23:24,740 --> 01:23:28,520 She couldn't, she couldn't care less, but she, you know, we 1576 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,340 spent a couple days in Manhattan, and it's like all we 1577 01:23:31,340 --> 01:23:34,580 did was eat Italian food, just to get it, just to fill 1578 01:23:34,580 --> 01:23:38,660 our quota. Little Italy so fun. You got to go to Eataly. Italy 1579 01:23:38,660 --> 01:23:40,300 is fantastic. Yeah, I enjoy 1580 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:43,480 Italy. Put some weight on you, man, I know, but it 1581 01:23:43,480 --> 01:23:47,200 doesn't do that in Italy, you can actually lose weight by 1582 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:47,680 eating there. 1583 01:23:47,980 --> 01:23:50,200 I never been to Italy. How is it? We've 1584 01:23:50,500 --> 01:23:53,980 never been there because, because I know that my people 1585 01:23:53,980 --> 01:23:55,600 are from Napoli, Naples, 1586 01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,480 my father's family's from Naples. Gotta get there. Yeah, 1587 01:23:58,480 --> 01:24:03,180 yeah. I got this opportunity to get citizenship with port Italy. 1588 01:24:03,180 --> 01:24:05,820 Port Italy, and I'm really working with them to get 1589 01:24:05,820 --> 01:24:08,820 citizenship. But yeah, I mean, I would be fun going to Italy. I'm 1590 01:24:08,820 --> 01:24:11,040 sure that they would know me from the Stallone and Pacino 1591 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,280 movies. Yeah, Germany, the King of Queens, is really big out 1592 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,600 there. But who knows. I mean, right now, you know, lately, 1593 01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,440 I've been traveling around America. Here, St Louis, 1594 01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:26,420 Nashville, Los Angeles, New York, and fill in my quota. God 1595 01:24:26,420 --> 01:24:30,140 bless America. God bless America, right? You know, Larry, 1596 01:24:30,140 --> 01:24:33,020 I really appreciate you making this trip out here, not just the 1597 01:24:33,020 --> 01:24:35,780 Spring Hill from Nashville. You drove five hours from St Louis. 1598 01:24:35,780 --> 01:24:39,260 Get your posse here. These guys doing the thing. Guys, thanks 1599 01:24:39,260 --> 01:24:43,060 for for being here, Chris and mark, and the film is gonna come 1600 01:24:43,060 --> 01:24:45,460 out sometime this year, Saturday in the park. Everyone watch for 1601 01:24:45,460 --> 01:24:50,140 that. Everybody look for God Bless America the track, and 1602 01:24:50,140 --> 01:24:53,560 look for Larry and his new roles. He's got new roles coming 1603 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:58,660 up. Really it's gonna happen. I feel it now. You got a drum in 1604 01:24:58,660 --> 01:25:01,200 front of you. Jim's got a drum. I'm in front of you. Let's take 1605 01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,700 this thing out. Style man, 1606 01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:06,840 oh, wow, look at this. 1607 01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,040 So Larry, you start a jam. You can just kind of put it kind of 1608 01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:12,420 between your legs like that. Just 1609 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:22,980 like, yeah, you 1610 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:50,800 Hi, I'll go four bars. I'm 1611 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,900 I am in the house. I 1612 01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:25,880 it. Let you guys do here we go, last 1613 01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:40,660 time, first time ever on the rich Redmond show, three drum 1614 01:26:40,660 --> 01:26:44,500 specialists, jamming, McConaughy style. Larry, thanks 1615 01:26:44,500 --> 01:26:48,220 for being here. Man, wanted to Google one thing about wayward 1616 01:26:48,220 --> 01:26:49,840 woman. I want to know what that actually 1617 01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,480 that means women who have lost their way, 1618 01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:58,120 word way, the way we word 1619 01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:03,120 word. What is the definition wayward woman generally refers 1620 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:08,340 to a woman who deviate from societal societal norms or 1621 01:27:08,340 --> 01:27:11,760 expectations, often characterized as rebellious, 1622 01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:16,200 independent or unconventional behavior. The term could be 1623 01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,560 found in various contexts, including literature, social 1624 01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,000 commentary, historical studies and often nuance. Well, in 1625 01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:26,720 reality is I find wayward women the most interesting women. 1626 01:27:26,780 --> 01:27:29,780 That's right, yeah, you say deviate from norms and 1627 01:27:29,780 --> 01:27:32,660 expectations and a bit rebellious and independent, 1628 01:27:32,660 --> 01:27:36,440 yeah, which that's perfect for you? Larry, yeah, I don't know 1629 01:27:36,440 --> 01:27:40,280 about perfect, but it's definitely like lights my fire. 1630 01:27:40,940 --> 01:27:44,680 Yeah, maybe, maybe someday we will be perfect. That'd be great 1631 01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:47,980 to find the perfect one, right? For sure, as we all search 1632 01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,320 the perfect, you're funny man, yeah. 1633 01:27:51,340 --> 01:27:54,340 Okay, anyway, with women out there, just so you know, if 1634 01:27:54,340 --> 01:27:59,500 you're deviating from societal norms and or expectations and 1635 01:27:59,500 --> 01:28:02,880 you're rebellious and independent and unconventional. 1636 01:28:03,540 --> 01:28:06,600 Well, Uncle Larry is in the house. I don't know about Uncle 1637 01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:06,960 Larry. 1638 01:28:08,220 --> 01:28:11,760 Uncle Larry, that's Larry McCarthy. Jim McCarthy, 1639 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,760 voiceovers.com thank you is always for your time and talent. 1640 01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,820 Thank you for you guys. Yeah, thanks everyone for tuning in. 1641 01:28:17,820 --> 01:28:21,320 Be sure to subscribe, share, rate and review. 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