1 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:03,708 (upbeat music) 2 01:00:05,583 --> 01:00:07,000 So Sean Air English, we 3 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,166 were kind of all gonna do it 4 01:00:08,541 --> 01:00:09,583 and I chickened out. 5 01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:12,000 (laughing) It's just so my bad guys. 6 01:00:13,541 --> 01:00:14,666 But just know you're in my heart, 7 01:00:14,666 --> 01:00:15,791 you're tattooed to my heart, boys. 8 01:00:16,208 --> 01:00:18,083 Oh, I toggle easily. 9 01:00:18,458 --> 01:00:20,666 It's a day off, low power mode. 10 01:00:20,708 --> 01:00:22,125 Is that not annoying or is that just me? 11 01:00:22,416 --> 01:00:24,416 I know I'm anal and I'm not denying that. 12 01:00:24,458 --> 01:00:26,666 I don't know if I find it more annoying 13 01:00:26,666 --> 01:00:28,416 or I just find that weird. 14 01:00:28,958 --> 01:00:30,833 I tell these stories to other people, 15 01:00:31,125 --> 01:00:32,750 I guess don't judge me on them, 16 01:00:32,750 --> 01:00:33,500 but so they can say, 17 01:00:34,125 --> 01:00:34,958 I'm just glad there's 18 01:00:34,958 --> 01:00:35,750 someone else out there 19 01:00:35,750 --> 01:00:36,750 that thinks these things. 20 01:00:37,083 --> 01:00:38,875 Get off my yard, cut your tree. 21 01:00:39,750 --> 01:00:41,166 I turned out to be normal, I promise. 22 01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:42,958 I'm gonna rip off some more branches. 23 01:00:43,541 --> 01:00:44,250 Weren't we supposed to 24 01:00:44,250 --> 01:00:45,458 be in flying cars by now? 25 01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:46,875 The one intersection 26 01:00:46,875 --> 01:00:49,583 that was bass-akwards. 27 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:50,666 What does that mean? 28 01:00:51,208 --> 01:00:53,500 The autumnal equinox falls. 29 01:00:54,291 --> 01:00:55,541 Just get on with it. 30 01:00:55,541 --> 01:00:57,208 You know, people watching are like, 31 01:00:57,250 --> 01:00:59,000 this is what is happening. 32 01:00:59,708 --> 01:01:00,708 Welcome to the Mr. and 33 01:01:00,708 --> 01:01:01,625 Mrs. English Podcast. 34 01:01:02,083 --> 01:01:02,500 I'm Megan. 35 01:01:02,875 --> 01:01:03,416 And I'm Sean. 36 01:01:03,666 --> 01:01:04,750 We're here to talk about 37 01:01:04,750 --> 01:01:06,375 the wild ride of raising kids 38 01:01:06,375 --> 01:01:07,375 and growing careers, 39 01:01:07,750 --> 01:01:08,833 keeping life together in 40 01:01:08,833 --> 01:01:09,916 the middle of all the chaos. 41 01:01:10,541 --> 01:01:12,583 So buckle up because we're all 42 01:01:12,583 --> 01:01:13,958 in this crazy journey together. 43 01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:16,750 All right, well, here we go. 44 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,791 We are episode 33, the long awaited. 45 01:01:20,458 --> 01:01:21,500 Episode 33. 46 01:01:21,791 --> 01:01:22,375 Episode 33. 47 01:01:22,750 --> 01:01:23,791 Episode what? 48 01:01:24,833 --> 01:01:25,041 33. 49 01:01:25,625 --> 01:01:25,958 Trey, Trey. 50 01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:27,750 Oh, if you want to say that, sure. 51 01:01:29,416 --> 01:01:30,666 (laughing) I mean, it was your 52 01:01:30,666 --> 01:01:32,458 thing for the longest time. 53 01:01:32,458 --> 01:01:33,541 I had forgotten about that. 54 01:01:34,791 --> 01:01:34,916 Really? 55 01:01:35,791 --> 01:01:39,000 It was still pretty fresh in my mind. 56 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,208 I know, I apologize for that. 57 01:01:41,208 --> 01:01:41,666 I really do. 58 01:01:42,166 --> 01:01:43,875 It's a funny thing that you grow out of. 59 01:01:44,208 --> 01:01:45,000 So we mentioned on the 60 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,125 last podcast at the very end, 61 01:01:46,125 --> 01:01:46,833 if anybody stayed with 62 01:01:46,833 --> 01:01:47,833 us, I know a few of you did, 63 01:01:48,458 --> 01:01:50,000 but we were talking 64 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:50,916 about how it takes guys 65 01:01:51,041 --> 01:01:52,666 longer to grow up, right? 66 01:01:52,708 --> 01:01:53,041 Yes. 67 01:01:53,041 --> 01:01:55,000 And one of the things that it did take me 68 01:01:55,083 --> 01:01:57,583 a little bit of time to grow out of 69 01:01:58,208 --> 01:02:00,583 was my fascination with my sports number. 70 01:02:00,916 --> 01:02:01,958 I was 33, basketball. 71 01:02:02,458 --> 01:02:03,791 My number was 33, football. 72 01:02:04,083 --> 01:02:06,291 My number was 33, 33 in 73 01:02:06,291 --> 01:02:07,375 high school, 33 in college. 74 01:02:07,375 --> 01:02:07,875 I mean, I was 33. 75 01:02:08,166 --> 01:02:10,291 I mean, that was ingrained in me, right? 76 01:02:12,333 --> 01:02:13,458 And that's your whole 77 01:02:13,458 --> 01:02:16,000 persona for a good 10 years 78 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:16,958 of your life. 79 01:02:16,958 --> 01:02:17,208 Yeah. 80 01:02:17,791 --> 01:02:19,916 It's burned into you. 81 01:02:19,958 --> 01:02:21,250 Oh, I can imagine. 82 01:02:22,291 --> 01:02:24,083 And again, I will caveat this with, 83 01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:26,166 I did not play professional sports. 84 01:02:27,250 --> 01:02:28,416 So I can only imagine 85 01:02:28,416 --> 01:02:29,583 what it's like for an athlete 86 01:02:29,583 --> 01:02:31,333 that actually went professional, 87 01:02:32,125 --> 01:02:35,125 had that number for 25 88 01:02:35,125 --> 01:02:37,000 years, made a living. 89 01:02:37,541 --> 01:02:38,583 It was a, you know what I mean? 90 01:02:38,708 --> 01:02:39,666 That's gotta be totally different. 91 01:02:39,666 --> 01:02:43,500 But for us, amateurs, even still, 92 01:02:43,833 --> 01:02:44,666 I don't know if it's the 93 01:02:44,666 --> 01:02:46,708 testosterone burn at the time. 94 01:02:46,708 --> 01:02:47,875 It just burns it into you. 95 01:02:48,458 --> 01:02:50,166 I think it's part of, 96 01:02:50,166 --> 01:02:50,791 because it was so much 97 01:02:50,791 --> 01:02:51,750 a part of your persona, 98 01:02:52,708 --> 01:02:54,333 you know, that it was 99 01:02:54,333 --> 01:02:55,416 so much of who you are, 100 01:02:55,625 --> 01:02:57,750 what your identity was at that time. 101 01:02:58,125 --> 01:02:59,541 I think I wasn't-- 102 01:02:59,625 --> 01:03:00,541 I always go to the fact that, 103 01:03:00,541 --> 01:03:01,666 at least I played college ball. 104 01:03:02,291 --> 01:03:04,791 So I mean, there's nothing against people 105 01:03:04,791 --> 01:03:05,458 that played high school. 106 01:03:05,458 --> 01:03:05,875 There's great high 107 01:03:05,875 --> 01:03:07,041 school athletes out there 108 01:03:07,041 --> 01:03:08,500 that didn't go on to 109 01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:09,875 play in college and whatnot. 110 01:03:09,875 --> 01:03:10,708 But I always felt like, 111 01:03:10,708 --> 01:03:12,291 because I played some college ball too, 112 01:03:12,833 --> 01:03:13,458 that it gave me a 113 01:03:13,458 --> 01:03:15,666 little extra, I know, right? 114 01:03:15,958 --> 01:03:17,041 You had a few extra years there. 115 01:03:17,041 --> 01:03:18,000 A little bit of extra right there. 116 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:18,750 To wear that on the back. 117 01:03:18,791 --> 01:03:19,916 And that's a whole other story there. 118 01:03:19,916 --> 01:03:20,625 That's a whole other story. 119 01:03:20,875 --> 01:03:22,500 But yeah, so for the 120 01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:23,541 longest time when we first met, 121 01:03:23,541 --> 01:03:25,375 I mean, 33, it would be, you 122 01:03:25,375 --> 01:03:27,000 know, 4.33 in the afternoon. 123 01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:28,500 I'd be like, hey, trade, trade. 124 01:03:29,041 --> 01:03:29,291 Yep. 125 01:03:29,333 --> 01:03:31,458 I mean, and it was a 126 01:03:31,458 --> 01:03:34,000 thing, an incredibly lame thing. 127 01:03:34,916 --> 01:03:37,708 Did we, so speaking of incredibly lame, 128 01:03:37,708 --> 01:03:38,958 did we talk about the 129 01:03:38,958 --> 01:03:39,791 name on your yearbook? 130 01:03:40,125 --> 01:03:40,791 I mean, it was so much 131 01:03:40,791 --> 01:03:41,791 a part of your persona. 132 01:03:42,458 --> 01:03:43,666 Well, that was a real 133 01:03:43,666 --> 01:03:45,166 quick, like right turn, 134 01:03:45,958 --> 01:03:46,625 or left turn. 135 01:03:48,250 --> 01:03:48,458 Wow. 136 01:03:48,625 --> 01:03:49,333 No, we did not. 137 01:03:49,625 --> 01:03:50,333 But I mean, it was so 138 01:03:50,333 --> 01:03:51,500 much a part of your persona. 139 01:03:52,250 --> 01:03:52,416 Yeah. 140 01:03:52,875 --> 01:03:54,041 That you actually changed 141 01:03:54,041 --> 01:03:55,625 the name on your yearbook. 142 01:03:55,666 --> 01:03:56,708 Not to trade trade though. 143 01:03:56,750 --> 01:03:57,625 It wasn't trade trade. 144 01:03:57,666 --> 01:03:58,708 It just goes back to, I 145 01:03:58,708 --> 01:04:00,375 mean, I was a basketball player. 146 01:04:00,416 --> 01:04:02,208 Yeah, it was a part of your identity. 147 01:04:02,541 --> 01:04:03,416 Yeah, yeah. 148 01:04:03,791 --> 01:04:05,833 So much so that the name on your yearbook 149 01:04:06,083 --> 01:04:07,041 in what, eighth grade? 150 01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:08,000 Eighth grade. 151 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,166 Eighth grade, okay, so let's-- 152 01:04:09,166 --> 01:04:09,958 That's what it can be at. 153 01:04:09,958 --> 01:04:11,458 This was not my senior year. 154 01:04:11,500 --> 01:04:12,958 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 155 01:04:13,416 --> 01:04:15,416 Eighth grade, I was 14 maybe. 156 01:04:16,458 --> 01:04:16,625 Right. 157 01:04:18,166 --> 01:04:18,875 So, and it was so 158 01:04:18,875 --> 01:04:19,666 much a part of your life 159 01:04:19,666 --> 01:04:20,708 that your name was-- 160 01:04:20,958 --> 01:04:21,708 Well, the year before, 161 01:04:21,708 --> 01:04:22,291 you know how you can put, 162 01:04:22,291 --> 01:04:23,708 you know how back in the age you got it, 163 01:04:23,708 --> 01:04:24,791 you can put your name into them, 164 01:04:24,791 --> 01:04:26,500 they'd be like, what is that? 165 01:04:27,500 --> 01:04:29,500 Embossed in like gold or silver print 166 01:04:29,500 --> 01:04:29,916 or something like 167 01:04:29,916 --> 01:04:31,041 that, say, Shawn Ingalls. 168 01:04:32,250 --> 01:04:33,333 I don't know if you ever did that, 169 01:04:33,333 --> 01:04:34,208 because I didn't see it, but-- 170 01:04:34,250 --> 01:04:34,541 No, we didn't have that option. 171 01:04:34,541 --> 01:04:35,458 That was a thing in 172 01:04:35,458 --> 01:04:36,625 Colorado, we did those, 173 01:04:36,625 --> 01:04:37,416 and most of them, so it was Shawn 174 01:04:37,416 --> 01:04:38,041 Ingalls, Shawn Ingalls. 175 01:04:38,916 --> 01:04:41,791 But for eighth grade, it was Shawn, 176 01:04:43,208 --> 01:04:46,458 quotation marks, air, ingless, 177 01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:48,750 closed quotation marks, English. 178 01:04:49,875 --> 01:04:50,791 So Shawn Air Ingalls, 179 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:51,875 and that was, you know, 180 01:04:51,875 --> 01:04:54,250 that was an ode to Michael Air Jordan. 181 01:04:54,458 --> 01:04:56,041 Yes, yes. 182 01:04:56,791 --> 01:04:57,458 He and I were very 183 01:04:57,458 --> 01:05:01,416 similar back in 1990, maybe 90? 184 01:05:01,875 --> 01:05:03,208 90, maybe, yeah, yeah, yeah. 185 01:05:03,291 --> 01:05:04,833 He was winning his first championship 186 01:05:04,833 --> 01:05:09,750 and I was leading the home talks, yeah. 187 01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,416 Absolutely, leading the sport, yeah. 188 01:05:12,958 --> 01:05:16,083 Into historic wins, for sure. 189 01:05:16,916 --> 01:05:17,708 You can read all about 190 01:05:17,708 --> 01:05:18,833 it in the encyclopedias. 191 01:05:19,541 --> 01:05:19,750 (laughing) 192 01:05:20,416 --> 01:05:20,875 It is. 193 01:05:20,875 --> 01:05:21,166 Yeah. 194 01:05:21,541 --> 01:05:22,708 I mean, pretty soon, 195 01:05:22,708 --> 01:05:25,166 when I use like chat GPT 196 01:05:25,458 --> 01:05:26,708 or copilot and use your 197 01:05:26,708 --> 01:05:28,750 name, like it's going to pull up 198 01:05:29,166 --> 01:05:30,500 Shawn Air Ingalls, 199 01:05:31,125 --> 01:05:32,916 maybe, if we put that out. 200 01:05:33,708 --> 01:05:35,333 It's not, it's not. 201 01:05:35,958 --> 01:05:36,708 Well, that's the funny thing, 202 01:05:36,708 --> 01:05:37,250 because it was like, 203 01:05:37,250 --> 01:05:38,916 that's your persona for so long. 204 01:05:39,500 --> 01:05:41,416 Guys were like that a little bit. 205 01:05:41,958 --> 01:05:42,250 100%. 206 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,541 But I eventually grew out of that, right? 207 01:05:45,541 --> 01:05:47,916 Like Tre Tre, little longer part. 208 01:05:47,916 --> 01:05:48,583 That's why I was joking. 209 01:05:48,583 --> 01:05:49,166 I don't really have a 210 01:05:49,166 --> 01:05:50,291 tattoo on my back for 33, 211 01:05:50,625 --> 01:05:51,583 but I did have some 212 01:05:51,583 --> 01:05:53,291 really, really good friends. 213 01:05:53,291 --> 01:05:55,666 My two best friends, Jason and Brian, 214 01:05:56,583 --> 01:05:58,000 and all of our numbers 215 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,041 kind of went together, right? 216 01:06:00,041 --> 01:06:01,958 So it was like two, three, 217 01:06:02,791 --> 01:06:04,166 three, three, and three, two. 218 01:06:04,416 --> 01:06:06,750 So 23, 33, and 32 were our numbers. 219 01:06:07,458 --> 01:06:09,458 And they got that tattooed on their arms. 220 01:06:10,083 --> 01:06:11,083 And we were kind of all 221 01:06:11,083 --> 01:06:13,041 gonna do it, and I chickened out. 222 01:06:13,541 --> 01:06:15,625 (laughing) It's just so my bad guys. 223 01:06:17,083 --> 01:06:18,291 But just know you're in my heart. 224 01:06:18,291 --> 01:06:19,416 You're tattooed to my heart, boys. 225 01:06:19,708 --> 01:06:20,708 I know, that's like a 226 01:06:20,708 --> 01:06:21,916 deep, a deep tattoo. 227 01:06:23,250 --> 01:06:25,125 Yeah, so anyways, I grew out of it. 228 01:06:25,125 --> 01:06:27,666 I still, I mean, but are some 229 01:06:27,666 --> 01:06:29,541 of our sons and our daughters, 230 01:06:29,541 --> 01:06:30,791 have you wore that number? 231 01:06:30,833 --> 01:06:32,125 Yeah, they do. 232 01:06:32,125 --> 01:06:33,458 Because it's kind of a family thing now. 233 01:06:33,458 --> 01:06:34,500 Not that I pressured them into it. 234 01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:36,541 I think they just saw things and pictures 235 01:06:36,833 --> 01:06:37,791 and they knew about it. 236 01:06:37,916 --> 01:06:39,291 You never once 237 01:06:39,291 --> 01:06:41,500 actually even suggested it, 238 01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:42,583 talked about it, anything. 239 01:06:43,333 --> 01:06:45,791 Our kids knew nothing about the number 33 240 01:06:45,791 --> 01:06:46,833 in this Trey Trey phenomenon. 241 01:06:47,083 --> 01:06:47,833 I mean, that's how long 242 01:06:47,833 --> 01:06:49,500 ago you grew out of this. 243 01:06:50,125 --> 01:06:52,291 That like, it didn't even persist well. 244 01:06:52,375 --> 01:06:53,500 Bring it back though, right? 245 01:06:53,500 --> 01:06:54,125 It's really good. 246 01:06:54,875 --> 01:06:57,625 Or not, or not. 247 01:06:59,416 --> 01:07:00,750 Oh goodness, so we are in 248 01:07:00,750 --> 01:07:02,916 episode Trey Trey, episode 33. 249 01:07:03,250 --> 01:07:03,791 Which would have been a 250 01:07:03,791 --> 01:07:05,000 huge deal to me, you know, 251 01:07:05,291 --> 01:07:06,000 15 years ago. 252 01:07:06,583 --> 01:07:08,000 Maybe 20 years ago now. 253 01:07:08,875 --> 01:07:09,750 Forget how old I'm getting. 254 01:07:10,875 --> 01:07:12,125 I know, isn't that crazy? 255 01:07:12,958 --> 01:07:13,791 Does it still feel 25? 256 01:07:14,750 --> 01:07:15,291 Yeah, we've talked 257 01:07:15,291 --> 01:07:16,500 about that a little bit. 258 01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:17,541 It is, I mean, it is 259 01:07:17,541 --> 01:07:19,958 so weird that I don't, 260 01:07:20,541 --> 01:07:23,208 I don't feel any older than 35. 261 01:07:23,208 --> 01:07:23,416 No. 262 01:07:24,125 --> 01:07:24,333 Really? 263 01:07:24,875 --> 01:07:26,666 No, like, and that's okay. 264 01:07:27,166 --> 01:07:27,916 Just life just puts 265 01:07:27,916 --> 01:07:28,958 different pressures on you. 266 01:07:29,500 --> 01:07:31,250 I mean, I think as you get older, 267 01:07:31,250 --> 01:07:32,875 you're able to just bear more weight 268 01:07:33,166 --> 01:07:34,625 as long as you're a healthy individual. 269 01:07:35,125 --> 01:07:35,875 And there's times even when 270 01:07:35,875 --> 01:07:36,666 you're a healthy individual 271 01:07:36,791 --> 01:07:38,958 that it's too much weight. 272 01:07:39,291 --> 01:07:39,500 Yeah. 273 01:07:39,833 --> 01:07:40,000 Right? 274 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,958 There's a lot of times like that, yeah. 275 01:07:42,041 --> 01:07:43,416 I remember a few years 276 01:07:43,416 --> 01:07:45,875 back when I had a company 277 01:07:46,166 --> 01:07:46,916 that I owned, I was 278 01:07:46,916 --> 01:07:47,750 still working for the bank, 279 01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:49,291 but on the side I owned a company. 280 01:07:50,166 --> 01:07:51,666 And, you know, I had like, we were 281 01:07:51,666 --> 01:07:52,833 running like 33 trucks. 282 01:07:53,625 --> 01:07:54,375 We, you know, at 283 01:07:54,375 --> 01:07:55,791 Christmas time, you know, 284 01:07:55,791 --> 01:07:57,958 I had at least that many employees, 285 01:07:58,416 --> 01:07:59,583 a lot of pressure on that. 286 01:08:01,208 --> 01:08:03,166 And there was a lot of 287 01:08:03,166 --> 01:08:03,916 pressure on that one. 288 01:08:03,916 --> 01:08:05,166 It was not what we wanted it to be. 289 01:08:05,166 --> 01:08:06,125 I was trying to get out of it. 290 01:08:06,458 --> 01:08:07,083 I had to make it through 291 01:08:07,083 --> 01:08:08,125 the next Christmas season. 292 01:08:08,916 --> 01:08:10,541 And I remember saying like that, 293 01:08:10,583 --> 01:08:12,416 the pressure of that cracked me. 294 01:08:12,833 --> 01:08:13,416 I mean, it 295 01:08:13,416 --> 01:08:16,666 fundamentally cracked my personality 296 01:08:17,125 --> 01:08:18,583 for a good two or three years. 297 01:08:18,625 --> 01:08:18,833 Yeah. 298 01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:20,708 And it took me time to heal 299 01:08:20,708 --> 01:08:22,291 because that was a lot of pressure. 300 01:08:22,666 --> 01:08:23,041 It was. 301 01:08:23,041 --> 01:08:24,208 And I was a healthy person at that time, 302 01:08:24,208 --> 01:08:25,000 thinking I was doing like, 303 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:25,625 For sure. 304 01:08:25,666 --> 01:08:26,958 We did a lot of research on it, 305 01:08:26,958 --> 01:08:28,250 thought we made the right choices, 306 01:08:28,625 --> 01:08:29,625 talked to a lot of people. 307 01:08:30,375 --> 01:08:30,541 Yeah. 308 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,416 And it just ended up the people, 309 01:08:33,625 --> 01:08:34,458 the people that I could 310 01:08:34,458 --> 01:08:35,666 not do the research on, 311 01:08:36,208 --> 01:08:37,166 were the ones that ruined it. 312 01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,916 Well, isn't that usually how it goes? 313 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:42,291 Yeah. A lot of times it is. 314 01:08:42,291 --> 01:08:43,583 It's a human element that 315 01:08:43,583 --> 01:08:45,541 can throw a wrench into things. 316 01:08:45,583 --> 01:08:45,875 Yeah. 317 01:08:46,708 --> 01:08:47,666 Right. The people I had to deal 318 01:08:47,666 --> 01:08:48,875 with at the other company 319 01:08:49,958 --> 01:08:51,791 that dealt with my company specifically 320 01:08:52,083 --> 01:08:54,583 were just horrible people. 321 01:08:55,791 --> 01:08:58,291 And I'm lucky enough that I 322 01:08:58,291 --> 01:08:59,291 haven't had this a whole lot 323 01:08:59,291 --> 01:09:01,625 in my career, but I mean, you hear people 324 01:09:01,625 --> 01:09:03,583 and I've actually known 325 01:09:03,583 --> 01:09:05,166 quite a few as have you, 326 01:09:05,666 --> 01:09:07,666 like, hey, I'm gonna 327 01:09:07,666 --> 01:09:08,708 go to this new company. 328 01:09:08,708 --> 01:09:09,500 It's a great, you know, 329 01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:10,166 maybe there's a really 330 01:09:10,166 --> 01:09:12,000 big job offer or whatever 331 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,041 that's out there and that 332 01:09:13,041 --> 01:09:14,541 money and you get over there 333 01:09:14,791 --> 01:09:16,666 and you're like, whoa, I 334 01:09:16,666 --> 01:09:17,500 couldn't do the research 335 01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:18,708 on these people and I 336 01:09:18,708 --> 01:09:19,541 don't like the culture. 337 01:09:19,541 --> 01:09:20,916 I don't like the way 338 01:09:20,916 --> 01:09:21,916 they talk to each other, 339 01:09:21,916 --> 01:09:23,666 whatever it happens to be, you know, 340 01:09:23,708 --> 01:09:25,375 that's the piece that you can't. 341 01:09:25,416 --> 01:09:26,125 The grass is always 342 01:09:26,125 --> 01:09:27,083 seems like it's greener. 343 01:09:27,333 --> 01:09:27,500 Yes. 344 01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:27,791 Right? 345 01:09:27,791 --> 01:09:28,458 That's what everybody thinks. 346 01:09:28,708 --> 01:09:29,375 Grass is always greener. 347 01:09:29,666 --> 01:09:30,000 Right. 348 01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:31,250 And, you know, I've been 349 01:09:31,250 --> 01:09:31,916 around the block enough 350 01:09:31,916 --> 01:09:33,208 at the banks, because 351 01:09:33,208 --> 01:09:35,208 in my line of business, 352 01:09:36,333 --> 01:09:37,500 financing of a certain 353 01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:39,250 particular, you know, 354 01:09:40,250 --> 01:09:42,458 not segment, the US economy, I would say, 355 01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,333 there was just kind of a merry-go-round 356 01:09:46,333 --> 01:09:47,208 of these bankers have 357 01:09:47,208 --> 01:09:48,500 specialized in what I did. 358 01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:48,750 Yeah. 359 01:09:49,583 --> 01:09:50,625 And it just kind of 360 01:09:50,625 --> 01:09:51,791 all, we just kind of all 361 01:09:51,833 --> 01:09:53,000 hopped different banks. 362 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:54,500 We'd follow each other, we'd go here, 363 01:09:54,500 --> 01:09:55,166 then that person would 364 01:09:55,166 --> 01:09:56,583 move over here, you know? 365 01:09:57,750 --> 01:10:00,541 And, but it was the same people 366 01:10:00,541 --> 01:10:01,666 everywhere you went. 367 01:10:01,666 --> 01:10:02,583 And like, you'd be tired, 368 01:10:02,583 --> 01:10:02,958 because like this 369 01:10:02,958 --> 01:10:04,083 credit culture was terrible. 370 01:10:04,166 --> 01:10:06,291 This credit guy was horrible, you know, 371 01:10:06,291 --> 01:10:07,291 or this leadership wasn't 372 01:10:07,291 --> 01:10:08,583 what I was hoping it would be. 373 01:10:08,791 --> 01:10:09,291 You get to the next 374 01:10:09,291 --> 01:10:10,208 bank, you know, it's like, 375 01:10:11,083 --> 01:10:12,875 same tie, you know? 376 01:10:14,083 --> 01:10:15,750 Same attitude, same everything. 377 01:10:16,208 --> 01:10:16,583 Yeah. 378 01:10:16,583 --> 01:10:16,791 Yeah. 379 01:10:17,916 --> 01:10:18,458 I think there are 380 01:10:18,458 --> 01:10:19,333 probably some industries 381 01:10:19,333 --> 01:10:21,791 that are just more like that than others, 382 01:10:21,791 --> 01:10:23,291 that maybe have a little bit more of-- 383 01:10:23,291 --> 01:10:23,708 Yeah, I always had 384 01:10:23,708 --> 01:10:24,500 the banking and finance. 385 01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:25,416 We've talked about this a lot, 386 01:10:25,416 --> 01:10:26,125 because I was in banking 387 01:10:26,125 --> 01:10:27,458 and finance for 24 years. 388 01:10:28,791 --> 01:10:31,500 And, and my experiences with that are 389 01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:32,208 different than yours, 390 01:10:32,208 --> 01:10:33,750 because you're, you're also in finance. 391 01:10:34,666 --> 01:10:36,291 But a totally different segment, 392 01:10:36,666 --> 01:10:37,583 non-banking related. 393 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:38,250 Yeah. 394 01:10:38,791 --> 01:10:40,500 And you don't have as much of the 395 01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:43,625 machoism, the egoism, 396 01:10:44,125 --> 01:10:45,000 I mean, the egos are 397 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,333 just out of this world. 398 01:10:46,750 --> 01:10:47,791 And you get to some levels there. 399 01:10:47,791 --> 01:10:48,666 I'm not trying to throw 400 01:10:48,666 --> 01:10:50,500 sticks and stones at people, 401 01:10:50,791 --> 01:10:53,083 but it's, it's over the top. 402 01:10:53,333 --> 01:10:54,583 I mean, smartest guys in 403 01:10:54,583 --> 01:10:56,125 the room is a legit thing. 404 01:10:56,416 --> 01:10:56,916 Read the book. 405 01:10:57,708 --> 01:10:58,125 100%. 406 01:10:58,958 --> 01:10:59,000 Yeah. 407 01:10:59,791 --> 01:11:00,333 Well, and that's one 408 01:11:00,333 --> 01:11:01,875 thing that I think I've, 409 01:11:02,916 --> 01:11:04,625 tried to at least talk to our kids about. 410 01:11:04,875 --> 01:11:06,916 And I remember, I remember when I 411 01:11:06,916 --> 01:11:08,041 graduated from college, 412 01:11:08,041 --> 01:11:09,041 I graduated, you know, 413 01:11:09,416 --> 01:11:10,708 finance and accounting degree. 414 01:11:11,208 --> 01:11:11,500 Right? 415 01:11:12,416 --> 01:11:14,208 And up until that point, 416 01:11:14,208 --> 01:11:15,041 your life has always 417 01:11:15,041 --> 01:11:17,833 fit into a box, right? 418 01:11:17,833 --> 01:11:19,583 Like I'm a finance major, 419 01:11:19,875 --> 01:11:21,083 or I'm a marketing major, 420 01:11:21,291 --> 01:11:22,583 or I'm psychology. 421 01:11:22,791 --> 01:11:24,291 Like it fits into those boxes. 422 01:11:24,291 --> 01:11:25,083 And then you get into the 423 01:11:25,083 --> 01:11:25,875 real world and you're like, 424 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,000 whoa, that, that box 425 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,000 actually means nothing. 426 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,625 That box is so big that 427 01:11:30,625 --> 01:11:32,041 it's really hard to pick 428 01:11:33,166 --> 01:11:33,791 what to do. 429 01:11:33,791 --> 01:11:34,916 And I'm, I'm so blessed 430 01:11:34,916 --> 01:11:35,958 that I got into the right 431 01:11:36,416 --> 01:11:37,083 piece of finance. 432 01:11:37,083 --> 01:11:38,666 Cause like my education was 433 01:11:38,666 --> 01:11:40,250 geared toward brokerage firm. 434 01:11:40,625 --> 01:11:41,500 And if you know me, 435 01:11:42,541 --> 01:11:44,791 I would not have done 436 01:11:44,791 --> 01:11:46,333 well in a brokerage firm 437 01:11:46,333 --> 01:11:47,041 type environment. 438 01:11:47,041 --> 01:11:48,666 That's actually great for some people, 439 01:11:48,958 --> 01:11:49,625 but that like 440 01:11:49,625 --> 01:11:52,583 aggressive cutthroat type of 441 01:11:52,916 --> 01:11:55,500 smartest guy in the room, machoism. 442 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,166 Sexy wall street bankers. 443 01:11:57,958 --> 01:11:58,708 Smartest guy in the room. 444 01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:01,666 I, I would have cracked. 445 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,750 Like it would have never been for me. 446 01:12:03,750 --> 01:12:04,000 Yeah. 447 01:12:05,208 --> 01:12:07,041 So I always say I'm blessed to have 448 01:12:07,041 --> 01:12:08,500 gotten into what I did. 449 01:12:08,708 --> 01:12:08,833 Yeah. 450 01:12:10,416 --> 01:12:11,916 You know, but there's so 451 01:12:11,916 --> 01:12:13,333 many different levels of, 452 01:12:13,333 --> 01:12:15,000 you know, we talk about both in finance, 453 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,500 but very different. 454 01:12:17,250 --> 01:12:17,416 Yeah. 455 01:12:17,416 --> 01:12:17,750 You know? 456 01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:18,833 Those are just things we would say like, 457 01:12:18,833 --> 01:12:20,125 I could never do that. 458 01:12:20,125 --> 01:12:20,666 And you're like, oh, 459 01:12:20,666 --> 01:12:21,583 that's totally normal. 460 01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,041 Like people admit they're 461 01:12:23,041 --> 01:12:24,250 wrong all the time in mind, 462 01:12:24,333 --> 01:12:26,958 people work together and 463 01:12:26,958 --> 01:12:27,916 try to help each other. 464 01:12:28,083 --> 01:12:29,500 And it's like, no, it's cutthroat. 465 01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:30,125 My room in commercial 466 01:12:30,125 --> 01:12:31,083 banking is not that way. 467 01:12:31,458 --> 01:12:32,583 I'm just saying everybody's like that. 468 01:12:32,583 --> 01:12:33,708 There's some great people 469 01:12:33,708 --> 01:12:34,875 and great friends I've made 470 01:12:34,958 --> 01:12:37,000 in the banking industry, but, 471 01:12:38,791 --> 01:12:40,416 but there's a reason. 472 01:12:42,291 --> 01:12:42,500 Yeah. 473 01:12:42,958 --> 01:12:43,166 Yeah. 474 01:12:43,875 --> 01:12:46,125 It's just, it's, it's different and. 475 01:12:46,708 --> 01:12:47,916 Yeah. Bankers and lawyers have, you know, 476 01:12:47,916 --> 01:12:49,166 they have a certain, you know. 477 01:12:49,166 --> 01:12:49,416 They do. 478 01:12:50,041 --> 01:12:51,041 But I'm sure lawyers 479 01:12:51,041 --> 01:12:53,166 are probably at get as, 480 01:12:54,291 --> 01:12:56,125 I don't know, I don't think frustrated 481 01:12:56,125 --> 01:12:56,666 it's the right word, 482 01:12:56,666 --> 01:12:57,500 but they probably have a similar 483 01:12:57,500 --> 01:12:58,416 experience to you and I, 484 01:12:58,416 --> 01:12:59,625 where there's just different levels. 485 01:12:59,833 --> 01:13:00,916 I think you're like, 486 01:13:00,916 --> 01:13:02,000 I'm a contract attorney. 487 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:02,666 I've never seen the 488 01:13:02,666 --> 01:13:03,666 inside of a courtroom. 489 01:13:03,666 --> 01:13:04,083 I have no idea. 490 01:13:04,291 --> 01:13:05,916 I stare at documents all day, you know, 491 01:13:05,916 --> 01:13:07,375 versus you have the other ones. 492 01:13:07,375 --> 01:13:09,291 You're like, I'm a defense attorney. 493 01:13:09,916 --> 01:13:10,541 Yeah, right. 494 01:13:10,583 --> 01:13:11,916 I represent the people who 495 01:13:11,916 --> 01:13:13,458 have murdered people, you know. 496 01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:14,291 And you're like, but 497 01:13:14,291 --> 01:13:15,791 they deserve a defense too. 498 01:13:16,416 --> 01:13:17,333 Right, right, exactly. 499 01:13:18,250 --> 01:13:18,541 Yeah. 500 01:13:18,541 --> 01:13:19,333 So different. 501 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:20,916 Life doesn't fit into those boxes. 502 01:13:21,416 --> 01:13:22,291 But you brought this 503 01:13:22,291 --> 01:13:22,916 to bring that background 504 01:13:22,916 --> 01:13:24,041 to your initial point though. 505 01:13:24,041 --> 01:13:24,208 Yeah, I think people 506 01:13:24,208 --> 01:13:24,750 are always just looking 507 01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:26,458 for that grass is greener to some degree. 508 01:13:26,958 --> 01:13:28,416 And I think it's just such a blessing 509 01:13:28,416 --> 01:13:29,166 because you're one of the 510 01:13:29,166 --> 01:13:30,458 few lucky ones, I would say, 511 01:13:30,458 --> 01:13:31,666 that get up every day. 512 01:13:31,875 --> 01:13:32,958 You enjoy what you do. 513 01:13:32,958 --> 01:13:33,833 You enjoy the people you 514 01:13:33,833 --> 01:13:35,000 work with for the most part. 515 01:13:35,583 --> 01:13:37,416 And it's not a chore 516 01:13:37,416 --> 01:13:38,208 to go to work for you 517 01:13:38,208 --> 01:13:39,750 as much as maybe some people. 518 01:13:40,125 --> 01:13:40,958 Right, right. 519 01:13:41,708 --> 01:13:43,916 But a lot of that is the people, right? 520 01:13:44,291 --> 01:13:45,875 Like I work in a culture 521 01:13:45,875 --> 01:13:47,208 where it's okay to say, 522 01:13:47,250 --> 01:13:49,875 I'm wrong or I made a mistake. 523 01:13:50,750 --> 01:13:51,833 We all make mistakes. 524 01:13:52,833 --> 01:13:53,791 And just own it. 525 01:13:54,166 --> 01:13:54,291 Yeah. 526 01:13:54,291 --> 01:13:56,791 And you know me, I'm gonna out myself. 527 01:13:56,791 --> 01:13:58,458 Like I'm the last 528 01:13:58,458 --> 01:13:59,708 person to ever say I'm sorry 529 01:13:59,708 --> 01:14:02,041 because I hate being wrong and whatever. 530 01:14:02,500 --> 01:14:04,041 But it's like honestly through my job 531 01:14:04,166 --> 01:14:06,250 because I realize by being 532 01:14:06,250 --> 01:14:07,416 accountable to your mistake, 533 01:14:07,583 --> 01:14:08,125 that's actually 534 01:14:08,125 --> 01:14:09,375 thought of as a good thing. 535 01:14:09,916 --> 01:14:11,166 So it's like, it's helped 536 01:14:11,166 --> 01:14:13,333 me in my personal life too. 537 01:14:13,791 --> 01:14:14,208 Even though you would 538 01:14:14,208 --> 01:14:15,083 think that'd come more 539 01:14:15,083 --> 01:14:16,000 from your personal life. 540 01:14:17,541 --> 01:14:19,500 He's always the first to say he's sorry. 541 01:14:20,458 --> 01:14:20,833 Yeah. 542 01:14:20,916 --> 01:14:21,541 You really are. 543 01:14:23,250 --> 01:14:24,250 Well, I'm right most of the time. 544 01:14:24,250 --> 01:14:26,000 So when I'm not, it's easy to, 545 01:14:26,333 --> 01:14:26,750 there are one or two 546 01:14:26,750 --> 01:14:27,666 times it's ever happened. 547 01:14:28,708 --> 01:14:29,333 (laughs) 548 01:14:29,375 --> 01:14:30,208 You're right a lot. 549 01:14:30,708 --> 01:14:31,375 I mean you are. 550 01:14:32,250 --> 01:14:34,083 I kid, I kid, I kid, I kid. 551 01:14:34,083 --> 01:14:34,875 Anyways, we go down 552 01:14:34,875 --> 01:14:35,958 that pathway a long ways 553 01:14:35,958 --> 01:14:40,333 but I don't wanna beat that dead horse. 554 01:14:40,833 --> 01:14:42,041 We've talked about that before. 555 01:14:42,041 --> 01:14:42,625 We can talk about that 556 01:14:42,625 --> 01:14:43,875 another time at some point too. 557 01:14:43,875 --> 01:14:45,250 But today is a holiday. 558 01:14:45,250 --> 01:14:46,791 So we're trying to get some R&R in. 559 01:14:47,333 --> 01:14:47,875 We are. 560 01:14:48,708 --> 01:14:50,166 And some of us are better at 561 01:14:50,166 --> 01:14:51,666 getting R&R in than others. 562 01:14:52,125 --> 01:14:55,375 Yeah, another dagger thrown at me. 563 01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:01,000 I actually am somewhat envious of you 564 01:15:01,791 --> 01:15:04,958 because even on days off, I 565 01:15:04,958 --> 01:15:07,208 have like a low power mode. 566 01:15:08,041 --> 01:15:10,125 That's why you know I'm envious of you. 567 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:11,541 You can actually 568 01:15:11,541 --> 01:15:12,666 switch that, you can toggle. 569 01:15:13,041 --> 01:15:14,791 Oh, I toggle easily. 570 01:15:15,333 --> 01:15:17,625 It's a day off, low power mode, right? 571 01:15:17,625 --> 01:15:18,958 I'm doing laundry, I'm 572 01:15:18,958 --> 01:15:19,958 emptying a dishwasher, 573 01:15:20,250 --> 01:15:21,750 I'm changing a bed, right? 574 01:15:21,833 --> 01:15:23,666 It's the basic stuff. 575 01:15:25,541 --> 01:15:25,666 Awesome. 576 01:15:26,833 --> 01:15:30,958 Whereas you are still plagued by like, 577 01:15:31,416 --> 01:15:32,250 I gotta get stuff done. 578 01:15:32,750 --> 01:15:34,375 I don't even have that desire. 579 01:15:35,416 --> 01:15:37,083 And because of that, I feel lazy. 580 01:15:37,625 --> 01:15:38,916 Yeah, the best metaphor I 581 01:15:38,916 --> 01:15:39,625 can come up with right now 582 01:15:39,625 --> 01:15:41,000 is like since we're on 583 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,875 yachts, yachts and boats 584 01:15:42,875 --> 01:15:43,500 and all this stuff. 585 01:15:43,791 --> 01:15:45,166 It's like you got the 586 01:15:45,166 --> 01:15:46,750 boat turned all the way up, 587 01:15:46,958 --> 01:15:48,458 your hammer down, full 588 01:15:48,458 --> 01:15:50,250 blast with the engines going. 589 01:15:51,291 --> 01:15:52,291 Except you're more, 590 01:15:52,708 --> 01:15:53,708 you know, you're in dock. 591 01:15:54,625 --> 01:15:55,250 So you're just at the 592 01:15:55,250 --> 01:15:56,291 dock just bouncing around 593 01:15:56,291 --> 01:15:57,208 but the engines are going, 594 01:15:57,208 --> 01:15:58,083 but you're not going anywhere. 595 01:15:58,500 --> 01:15:59,791 Because today is a day off. 596 01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:01,041 Even though you got a 597 01:16:01,041 --> 01:16:02,041 thousand places to go 598 01:16:02,041 --> 01:16:04,583 and things to do, I don't know, 599 01:16:04,791 --> 01:16:05,750 it's just the to-do list 600 01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:07,250 in my head is constantly, 601 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:08,625 it just doesn't allow 602 01:16:08,625 --> 01:16:10,208 you to, me at least, 603 01:16:10,208 --> 01:16:11,250 I can't turn that off, 604 01:16:11,250 --> 01:16:12,500 I can't toggle that off. 605 01:16:13,083 --> 01:16:14,166 It's just, I could be doing 606 01:16:14,166 --> 01:16:15,041 this, I could be doing that, 607 01:16:15,041 --> 01:16:15,750 I could be doing this. 608 01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:18,041 I talked about that before on this show, 609 01:16:18,041 --> 01:16:18,916 having to slow down and be like, 610 01:16:18,916 --> 01:16:19,625 well instead, you know 611 01:16:19,625 --> 01:16:20,500 what, maybe let's play 612 01:16:20,541 --> 01:16:21,416 game of pool with the kids. 613 01:16:21,958 --> 01:16:22,500 Or hang out in the 614 01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:24,250 pool itself with the kids. 615 01:16:24,250 --> 01:16:24,500 Right. 616 01:16:25,291 --> 01:16:26,791 While they still want 617 01:16:26,791 --> 01:16:27,625 to do that kind of stuff. 618 01:16:27,625 --> 01:16:28,958 So I'm not horrible 619 01:16:28,958 --> 01:16:29,750 at that kind of stuff, 620 01:16:30,083 --> 01:16:31,125 but like this 621 01:16:31,125 --> 01:16:34,416 morning, I don't want to say 622 01:16:34,416 --> 01:16:35,041 it puts me in a bad 623 01:16:35,041 --> 01:16:36,708 mood, but I get aggravated. 624 01:16:37,708 --> 01:16:39,083 I have to fight through 625 01:16:39,083 --> 01:16:44,833 the annoyance of my own brain 626 01:16:45,666 --> 01:16:46,541 that's saying, Shawn, 627 01:16:46,541 --> 01:16:47,208 you could be doing this 628 01:16:47,208 --> 01:16:48,125 or you should be doing this, 629 01:16:48,125 --> 01:16:49,000 or what are you doing tomorrow? 630 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:49,791 Planning for tomorrow? 631 01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:51,708 To be like, hey, today we're 632 01:16:51,708 --> 01:16:53,958 not gonna do anything major. 633 01:16:55,041 --> 01:16:55,583 And there's still some 634 01:16:55,583 --> 01:16:56,166 things we're gonna do, 635 01:16:56,166 --> 01:16:56,833 we gotta get some vacation 636 01:16:56,833 --> 01:16:57,916 to plan and stuff like that. 637 01:16:59,041 --> 01:17:00,166 That is, it's really hard, 638 01:17:00,166 --> 01:17:02,791 it's really hard to rest. 639 01:17:03,416 --> 01:17:04,500 I find it really hard to rest. 640 01:17:04,750 --> 01:17:05,166 You do. 641 01:17:05,166 --> 01:17:06,750 My brain does not turn off, ever. 642 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,666 It never, ever, ever turns off. 643 01:17:10,750 --> 01:17:12,625 With the caveat of watching a movie, 644 01:17:12,625 --> 01:17:15,041 if I'm watching a movie, I can get 645 01:17:15,041 --> 01:17:15,791 immersed in the movie. 646 01:17:16,916 --> 01:17:18,416 And for that hour and a half, 647 01:17:19,041 --> 01:17:20,791 that's why I'm Friday nights 648 01:17:20,791 --> 01:17:21,375 or we have movie 649 01:17:21,375 --> 01:17:22,416 nights, I love movie nights 650 01:17:22,416 --> 01:17:24,000 because that is the time 651 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,041 I can turn my brain off. 652 01:17:25,375 --> 01:17:30,000 Right, and I can always tell when you're, 653 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:30,875 because I could tell you 654 01:17:30,875 --> 01:17:31,833 were agitated this morning. 655 01:17:32,250 --> 01:17:33,250 I could just, there's 656 01:17:33,250 --> 01:17:34,041 just something about it. 657 01:17:34,541 --> 01:17:35,583 There's an edginess. 658 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,166 Oh, I know, I knew it too. 659 01:17:39,125 --> 01:17:41,000 You were like, I 660 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:42,375 really, I should go for a run. 661 01:17:43,166 --> 01:17:44,333 And I-- 662 01:17:44,500 --> 01:17:45,833 I was laughing because you 663 01:17:45,833 --> 01:17:47,375 encouraged me to go for the run. 664 01:17:47,375 --> 01:17:47,791 I encouraged you. 665 01:17:47,791 --> 01:17:48,500 I always come back from 666 01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:49,291 running in a better mood. 667 01:17:50,458 --> 01:17:51,666 So you encouraged me to go on the run. 668 01:17:51,666 --> 01:17:52,791 You should just go for a run. 669 01:17:52,833 --> 01:17:54,833 I did because I knew you would feel like 670 01:17:54,833 --> 01:17:56,208 you accomplished something 671 01:17:56,208 --> 01:17:58,250 because that was part of your agitation. 672 01:17:58,500 --> 01:17:58,875 You're like, I've 673 01:17:58,875 --> 01:17:59,625 gotten nothing done again. 674 01:17:59,708 --> 01:18:00,791 Because we ate so much 675 01:18:00,791 --> 01:18:02,041 this weekend in Austin. 676 01:18:02,041 --> 01:18:03,250 Just junk food after 677 01:18:03,250 --> 01:18:04,666 junk food after junk food. 678 01:18:05,041 --> 01:18:05,500 Moodle junk food. 679 01:18:05,500 --> 01:18:06,458 And everything's fried, 680 01:18:06,750 --> 01:18:07,916 you know, I mean it's just-- 681 01:18:07,916 --> 01:18:08,666 There's nothing healthy about it. 682 01:18:08,708 --> 01:18:09,541 Right, right. 683 01:18:09,541 --> 01:18:11,625 You feel unhealthy, I get that. 684 01:18:13,041 --> 01:18:14,458 But like, I knew that 685 01:18:14,458 --> 01:18:15,625 if you went for a run, 686 01:18:15,625 --> 01:18:16,250 because at first I was 687 01:18:16,250 --> 01:18:17,916 like, whatever you want to do, 688 01:18:17,916 --> 01:18:18,291 you know. 689 01:18:18,750 --> 01:18:19,250 Usually you don't 690 01:18:19,250 --> 01:18:20,125 give that kind of direct, 691 01:18:20,125 --> 01:18:21,083 that hard direction either. 692 01:18:21,083 --> 01:18:22,291 I was laughing inside. 693 01:18:23,166 --> 01:18:23,750 Yeah, I was that 694 01:18:23,750 --> 01:18:24,750 transparent that I was like, 695 01:18:24,750 --> 01:18:26,375 no, you should go for a run after I said, 696 01:18:26,666 --> 01:18:27,583 you should do what you want to do. 697 01:18:27,583 --> 01:18:29,041 And then you kept talking and I was like, 698 01:18:29,666 --> 01:18:30,583 you should go for a run. 699 01:18:30,625 --> 01:18:31,500 But I've told you that before. 700 01:18:31,875 --> 01:18:32,833 Male's, at least me, 701 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:34,083 I'm a blunt instrument. 702 01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:36,250 So you don't need to 703 01:18:36,250 --> 01:18:37,458 like tiptoe around it. 704 01:18:37,458 --> 01:18:37,958 You know what I mean? 705 01:18:38,208 --> 01:18:38,958 Like, Sean, you got a little 706 01:18:38,958 --> 01:18:39,833 bit of an attitude problem? 707 01:18:40,291 --> 01:18:40,916 We go for a run. 708 01:18:41,833 --> 01:18:42,750 I'm okay with that 709 01:18:42,750 --> 01:18:44,375 because I already know that. 710 01:18:44,375 --> 01:18:45,125 It's not like I'm like, 711 01:18:45,125 --> 01:18:46,500 it's not an epiphany for me like, 712 01:18:46,791 --> 01:18:47,958 oh, what, I'm in a bad mood? 713 01:18:48,500 --> 01:18:49,875 It's like, I understand that. 714 01:18:49,875 --> 01:18:50,708 And I wasn't in a bad mood, 715 01:18:50,708 --> 01:18:51,875 but I was just, I was 716 01:18:51,875 --> 01:18:53,916 teeter tottering on frustration 717 01:18:54,750 --> 01:18:56,625 with myself, not with anybody else. 718 01:18:57,041 --> 01:18:58,250 But the bad news is, 719 01:18:58,250 --> 01:18:58,958 and I think a lot of 720 01:18:58,958 --> 01:18:59,791 people are like this, 721 01:18:59,791 --> 01:19:01,208 when you're in one of those moods, 722 01:19:01,208 --> 01:19:03,208 and I hope other people get in that mood, 723 01:19:04,291 --> 01:19:05,541 is, and I hope I'm not 724 01:19:05,541 --> 01:19:06,500 the only one that does it, 725 01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:07,250 because I'm just trying 726 01:19:07,250 --> 01:19:08,000 to let people know like, 727 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:08,625 this is normal, 728 01:19:08,875 --> 01:19:11,458 I think is you tend to 729 01:19:11,458 --> 01:19:12,791 take that out on other people. 730 01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:15,291 And so you start like nitpicking, 731 01:19:15,291 --> 01:19:16,250 at least I do, I'll start 732 01:19:16,250 --> 01:19:17,458 nitpicking on other people. 733 01:19:18,458 --> 01:19:19,791 And then I just feel bad, 734 01:19:19,791 --> 01:19:21,291 cause like now I'm the 735 01:19:21,291 --> 01:19:22,375 dad that's in a bad mood. 736 01:19:23,458 --> 01:19:24,833 I think that's totally normal. 737 01:19:24,833 --> 01:19:25,750 I do the same thing. 738 01:19:25,791 --> 01:19:27,250 Yeah, and so that's why I was like, 739 01:19:28,083 --> 01:19:28,750 I do need to go. 740 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:29,541 But I was also 741 01:19:29,541 --> 01:19:30,666 struggling with just being lazy. 742 01:19:31,791 --> 01:19:32,250 You know, it's like, I 743 01:19:32,250 --> 01:19:33,250 got a thousand things to do. 744 01:19:33,500 --> 01:19:34,166 I'm exhausted. 745 01:19:34,875 --> 01:19:35,708 I ate horrible. 746 01:19:37,041 --> 01:19:37,583 I'm tired. 747 01:19:38,416 --> 01:19:39,916 All these things are piled up. 748 01:19:40,625 --> 01:19:42,000 Where do I start unpacking this, 749 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:42,958 so I can have a great day? 750 01:19:43,291 --> 01:19:43,708 You know what I mean? 751 01:19:44,041 --> 01:19:45,416 And the best place you're right for me 752 01:19:45,416 --> 01:19:46,875 to start unpacking is physicality. 753 01:19:47,458 --> 01:19:48,166 I need to go shoot hoops. 754 01:19:48,875 --> 01:19:50,000 I need to go lift weights. 755 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:50,833 I need to go for a run. 756 01:19:51,125 --> 01:19:52,625 And the run is usually the easiest one, 757 01:19:52,958 --> 01:19:54,416 just to start off with, cause it's fast. 758 01:19:54,708 --> 01:19:56,458 30 minutes, I'm done, and I feel good. 759 01:19:56,791 --> 01:19:57,416 Yeah, yeah. 760 01:19:58,083 --> 01:19:59,416 And you feel accomplished. 761 01:19:59,708 --> 01:20:01,333 You got some of your jitters out. 762 01:20:02,041 --> 01:20:03,500 So it's like, even if you 763 01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:05,291 do relax the rest of the day, 764 01:20:05,291 --> 01:20:07,250 you're like, I went for my run. 765 01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:08,833 It makes me feel healthier. 766 01:20:09,250 --> 01:20:10,416 It just, yeah. 767 01:20:10,750 --> 01:20:12,125 It doesn't solve everything, but. 768 01:20:13,166 --> 01:20:14,000 No, but it's a little 769 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,250 bit of a reset for me. 770 01:20:15,250 --> 01:20:15,916 I mean, I got plenty of 771 01:20:15,916 --> 01:20:16,750 things left to do today 772 01:20:16,750 --> 01:20:17,958 that I like to do. 773 01:20:18,458 --> 01:20:20,583 But the family, including myself, 774 01:20:20,583 --> 01:20:21,166 will all appreciate 775 01:20:21,166 --> 01:20:22,250 the fact that I was able 776 01:20:22,250 --> 01:20:23,541 to run through that, literally. 777 01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,583 And, you know, transition into, you know, 778 01:20:28,583 --> 01:20:30,041 just more of a better day. 779 01:20:30,083 --> 01:20:30,791 Yeah, yeah. 780 01:20:31,541 --> 01:20:32,166 I hear ya. 781 01:20:32,500 --> 01:20:32,708 Yeah. 782 01:20:32,958 --> 01:20:33,416 It's funny, like, on 783 01:20:33,416 --> 01:20:34,458 the run, you could tell. 784 01:20:34,458 --> 01:20:35,625 I was in an agitated mood 785 01:20:35,625 --> 01:20:36,708 enough, like, on the run. 786 01:20:37,541 --> 01:20:38,083 I run down this 787 01:20:38,083 --> 01:20:39,333 neighborhood near where we live, 788 01:20:39,541 --> 01:20:40,500 and there was a while there. 789 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,041 I just tell these 790 01:20:43,041 --> 01:20:43,916 stories to other people, 791 01:20:44,166 --> 01:20:45,833 like, I guess, don't judge me on them, 792 01:20:45,833 --> 01:20:46,916 but so they can say, like, 793 01:20:47,125 --> 01:20:48,041 I'm just glad there's 794 01:20:48,041 --> 01:20:48,833 someone else out there 795 01:20:48,833 --> 01:20:50,541 that thinks these things, right? 796 01:20:51,083 --> 01:20:52,208 So in this neighborhood, 797 01:20:52,583 --> 01:20:53,833 and we're not part of that neighborhood. 798 01:20:54,583 --> 01:20:55,875 That's an HOA and all that kind of stuff, 799 01:20:55,875 --> 01:20:56,916 but I've lived in HOA 800 01:20:56,916 --> 01:20:57,541 neighborhoods before, 801 01:20:57,541 --> 01:20:58,875 so I know, like, there's rules. 802 01:20:59,291 --> 01:21:01,250 Like, for one thing, I know 803 01:21:01,250 --> 01:21:02,291 when I'm in an agitated mood, 804 01:21:02,958 --> 01:21:04,000 on the sidewalk, when 805 01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,166 you've got your tree 806 01:21:05,958 --> 01:21:07,541 that's growing near the sidewalk, 807 01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:09,208 you're supposed to trim the limbs 808 01:21:09,208 --> 01:21:11,375 so that people can walk on the sidewalk 809 01:21:11,916 --> 01:21:15,708 without being decapitated, or, I mean, 810 01:21:15,708 --> 01:21:16,666 that might be extreme, 811 01:21:16,916 --> 01:21:17,666 but at least you 812 01:21:17,666 --> 01:21:19,041 shouldn't have to duck under, 813 01:21:19,041 --> 01:21:19,791 you shouldn't have to duck 814 01:21:19,791 --> 01:21:21,250 under the tree limbs, right? 815 01:21:21,250 --> 01:21:22,166 That's part of the HOA. 816 01:21:22,166 --> 01:21:23,083 It's like, I've seen it, 817 01:21:23,375 --> 01:21:23,875 and I know that 818 01:21:23,875 --> 01:21:24,583 neighborhood's nice enough 819 01:21:24,583 --> 01:21:25,541 that that's part of it, 820 01:21:25,958 --> 01:21:27,583 and when these same people, same people, 821 01:21:27,583 --> 01:21:29,041 they have two trees in two different 822 01:21:29,041 --> 01:21:30,000 spots that hang over, 823 01:21:30,583 --> 01:21:31,916 and when I can tell 824 01:21:31,916 --> 01:21:33,458 I'm a little frustrated, 825 01:21:34,041 --> 01:21:37,500 I'm like, it frustrates me, I'm like, 826 01:21:38,208 --> 01:21:39,833 in my head, I'm like, cut your branches. 827 01:21:40,708 --> 01:21:42,291 So sometimes I run under and I try to 828 01:21:42,291 --> 01:21:43,583 snap them with my hand, 829 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,333 so that's like the dead branch, 830 01:21:45,833 --> 01:21:46,750 or then sometimes I'll 831 01:21:46,750 --> 01:21:48,416 just run through their yard, 832 01:21:48,416 --> 01:21:49,000 hoping that they'll 833 01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:50,250 see me and yell at me, 834 01:21:50,500 --> 01:21:51,250 you know, like, get off my 835 01:21:51,250 --> 01:21:52,583 yard, like, cut your tree. 836 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,041 These are the things I think about 837 01:21:56,541 --> 01:21:58,500 as I'm just like Mr. in 838 01:21:58,500 --> 01:21:59,750 a bad mood running guy. 839 01:22:00,083 --> 01:22:01,333 So today, I'm running. 840 01:22:02,541 --> 01:22:03,291 I can't wait to hear this. 841 01:22:03,958 --> 01:22:04,541 Yeah. This is news to me. 842 01:22:04,541 --> 01:22:05,750 And this is the second time I've seen it. 843 01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:06,750 The first time it didn't bother me, 844 01:22:06,750 --> 01:22:08,208 but I did take note of it. 845 01:22:09,083 --> 01:22:09,916 There's a guy in his 846 01:22:09,916 --> 01:22:11,041 neighborhood, normal street, 847 01:22:11,041 --> 01:22:12,000 just like anybody else's street. 848 01:22:13,375 --> 01:22:16,416 His driveway happens to be just exactly 849 01:22:17,333 --> 01:22:17,958 across the street from 850 01:22:17,958 --> 01:22:18,958 his neighbor's driveway. 851 01:22:20,083 --> 01:22:21,666 So he backs out his truck, 852 01:22:21,666 --> 01:22:22,416 and I've seen him do it twice, 853 01:22:22,416 --> 01:22:23,000 and he did it today. 854 01:22:23,458 --> 01:22:25,416 He backs his truck out all 855 01:22:25,416 --> 01:22:26,500 the way across the street 856 01:22:26,625 --> 01:22:29,000 into his neighbor's driveway, 857 01:22:30,375 --> 01:22:31,833 halfway into his neighbor's driveway, 858 01:22:32,375 --> 01:22:33,500 then pulls out into 859 01:22:33,500 --> 01:22:34,583 the, and then pulls out. 860 01:22:35,500 --> 01:22:37,000 He's incapable, apparently, 861 01:22:37,333 --> 01:22:38,166 did this thing just lower? 862 01:22:38,791 --> 01:22:40,541 He's incapable, apparently, 863 01:22:40,541 --> 01:22:42,166 of backing out into the street 864 01:22:42,750 --> 01:22:43,791 as most people do, 865 01:22:44,500 --> 01:22:45,750 and then pulling for it. 866 01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:46,750 So he drives into his, he 867 01:22:46,750 --> 01:22:48,666 backs into his neighbor's driveway 868 01:22:48,791 --> 01:22:50,166 every time to leave his driveway. 869 01:22:50,583 --> 01:22:51,375 Really? Yeah. 870 01:22:51,958 --> 01:22:52,833 Does that not annoy you? 871 01:22:53,500 --> 01:22:55,000 Is that not annoying, or is that just me? 872 01:22:55,291 --> 01:22:56,375 I know I'm anal, and 873 01:22:56,375 --> 01:22:57,291 I'm not denying that. 874 01:22:57,291 --> 01:22:59,625 I don't know if I find it more annoying, 875 01:22:59,708 --> 01:23:01,375 or I just find that weird. 876 01:23:01,916 --> 01:23:02,916 Everyone just backs 877 01:23:02,916 --> 01:23:04,291 out of their driveway. 878 01:23:04,666 --> 01:23:06,666 Why do you have to go all the way back 879 01:23:06,666 --> 01:23:09,166 so that makes no sense to me? 880 01:23:10,333 --> 01:23:12,583 It is totally going down. 881 01:23:14,333 --> 01:23:15,500 My day's getting bad again. 882 01:23:16,666 --> 01:23:17,750 I need to go for another one. 883 01:23:17,791 --> 01:23:20,208 My mic is acting up on me. 884 01:23:20,250 --> 01:23:21,750 I'm gonna rip off some more branches. 885 01:23:21,750 --> 01:23:23,083 My mic is sad, apparently. 886 01:23:23,291 --> 01:23:24,625 It's just like, oh, this is just sad. 887 01:23:25,083 --> 01:23:26,625 This just keeps going down. 888 01:23:28,041 --> 01:23:29,166 That's just weird. 889 01:23:29,666 --> 01:23:32,208 And maybe they're really good friends, 890 01:23:33,625 --> 01:23:34,958 and that's why he does. 891 01:23:35,291 --> 01:23:35,750 Yeah, it's like, hey, 892 01:23:35,750 --> 01:23:36,625 you don't mind if I just, 893 01:23:37,208 --> 01:23:39,083 for no reason whatsoever, 894 01:23:39,083 --> 01:23:41,333 need to use your driveway to back out. 895 01:23:42,583 --> 01:23:44,125 That's just, that's a little bit odd. 896 01:23:44,708 --> 01:23:44,916 Yeah. 897 01:23:45,166 --> 01:23:47,083 I don't get why you 898 01:23:47,083 --> 01:23:47,958 would need to do that. 899 01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,500 But these are the type of neighborhoods 900 01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:51,458 where people are like, I 901 01:23:51,458 --> 01:23:52,625 complain about these HOA people. 902 01:23:52,916 --> 01:23:53,791 I mean, people are very 903 01:23:53,791 --> 01:23:55,208 concerned about their property, 904 01:23:55,250 --> 01:23:56,541 and don't put your trash 905 01:23:56,541 --> 01:23:57,666 cans in the wrong spots, 906 01:23:57,666 --> 01:23:58,500 and all this kind of stuff. 907 01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:00,625 And it's like, oh, sure, by all means, 908 01:24:00,625 --> 01:24:01,666 use my driveway to get 909 01:24:01,666 --> 01:24:03,000 out of your driveway. 910 01:24:03,625 --> 01:24:03,875 Right. 911 01:24:03,916 --> 01:24:05,541 Because you need, you 912 01:24:05,541 --> 01:24:06,750 can't back into the street. 913 01:24:07,083 --> 01:24:07,458 Anyways. 914 01:24:07,500 --> 01:24:08,625 That's the weirdest thing. 915 01:24:08,666 --> 01:24:09,375 So I remember I was 916 01:24:09,375 --> 01:24:10,500 running by that this morning, 917 01:24:10,500 --> 01:24:11,375 just going like, okay. 918 01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:12,041 Okay. 919 01:24:12,583 --> 01:24:12,791 Interesting. 920 01:24:12,791 --> 01:24:13,000 Interesting. 921 01:24:13,458 --> 01:24:13,958 I was like, this 922 01:24:13,958 --> 01:24:15,166 should not bother me, Sean. 923 01:24:15,166 --> 01:24:16,125 This should not bother you. 924 01:24:16,625 --> 01:24:17,250 Keep on running. 925 01:24:17,958 --> 01:24:19,583 But I did shake my head at him. 926 01:24:22,416 --> 01:24:23,541 And like, I was just, I'm running. 927 01:24:23,541 --> 01:24:24,791 I kind of like, I kind of 928 01:24:24,791 --> 01:24:25,500 did like the whole thing 929 01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:26,500 in my head, like you couldn't just, 930 01:24:26,791 --> 01:24:28,625 I literally like motioned with my hand. 931 01:24:28,625 --> 01:24:28,916 Like you couldn't 932 01:24:28,916 --> 01:24:30,458 just go into your street 933 01:24:30,458 --> 01:24:31,291 and then drive out. 934 01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,416 I did this like little hand motion. 935 01:24:34,666 --> 01:24:35,708 Just in case, hopefully he 936 01:24:35,708 --> 01:24:36,708 was looking and being like, 937 01:24:36,708 --> 01:24:37,250 oh, you know what? 938 01:24:37,250 --> 01:24:37,833 That guy's right. 939 01:24:37,833 --> 01:24:39,416 I should, I should back into the street. 940 01:24:40,250 --> 01:24:41,125 This is, yeah. 941 01:24:41,125 --> 01:24:42,041 It's over and beyond. 942 01:24:42,166 --> 01:24:42,375 Yeah. 943 01:24:42,375 --> 01:24:43,041 It's beyond the pale. 944 01:24:43,458 --> 01:24:45,416 Or he just thought that there was a bug 945 01:24:45,416 --> 01:24:47,166 that you were trying to get rid of. 946 01:24:47,208 --> 01:24:48,458 Or everybody knows I'm just that really 947 01:24:48,458 --> 01:24:51,000 mad, uptight runner. 948 01:24:54,125 --> 01:24:55,458 Carrying branches that 949 01:24:55,458 --> 01:24:57,291 you've ripped off trees as you go. 950 01:24:57,291 --> 01:24:59,083 So I mean, on this podcast, 951 01:24:59,375 --> 01:24:59,916 I mean like this is 952 01:24:59,916 --> 01:25:00,916 my normal personality. 953 01:25:00,916 --> 01:25:02,791 I am generally a very 954 01:25:02,791 --> 01:25:04,458 happy-go-lucky person. 955 01:25:04,791 --> 01:25:06,041 Now that being said, I 956 01:25:06,041 --> 01:25:07,666 feel like I am a lightweight. 957 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,000 That being said, we've 958 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:10,333 covered it on here, right? 959 01:25:10,333 --> 01:25:11,916 There's different facets 960 01:25:11,916 --> 01:25:12,958 to everybody's personality. 961 01:25:13,458 --> 01:25:14,791 I am intense as they come. 962 01:25:15,208 --> 01:25:17,083 Not as they come, but I am very intense. 963 01:25:17,083 --> 01:25:18,583 I've met more intense people than me. 964 01:25:19,041 --> 01:25:20,208 I'm anal, I get that. 965 01:25:21,250 --> 01:25:22,208 I'm a perfectionist. 966 01:25:23,541 --> 01:25:24,416 What was the other thing I was gonna say? 967 01:25:24,625 --> 01:25:26,875 Oh, and I am not as much of an optimist 968 01:25:26,875 --> 01:25:27,875 as I once thought I was. 969 01:25:29,625 --> 01:25:31,083 Some might even say I'm a pessimist, 970 01:25:31,083 --> 01:25:32,958 but I really try not to be. 971 01:25:33,166 --> 01:25:34,708 I don't want to be. 972 01:25:35,458 --> 01:25:36,291 But when you've had as 973 01:25:36,291 --> 01:25:37,375 much bad luck, go ahead. 974 01:25:38,208 --> 01:25:40,125 What's so cute about it is that, 975 01:25:41,166 --> 01:25:41,833 and this is the 976 01:25:41,833 --> 01:25:43,166 maturity of our relationship. 977 01:25:44,041 --> 01:25:45,125 You used to tell me 978 01:25:45,125 --> 01:25:46,125 what an optimist you were 979 01:25:46,125 --> 01:25:47,625 and how you were just easygoing, 980 01:25:47,875 --> 01:25:50,458 and the whole time, like early dating, 981 01:25:50,708 --> 01:25:54,291 and even into 15 years of marriage, 982 01:25:54,666 --> 01:25:56,000 I just kinda was like, 983 01:25:57,208 --> 01:25:57,791 just kinda stayed 984 01:25:57,791 --> 01:25:59,250 silent when you would say it. 985 01:25:59,500 --> 01:26:00,041 15 years silent. 986 01:26:00,041 --> 01:26:01,208 And I was like-- 987 01:26:01,250 --> 01:26:03,791 You've lived in a jail. 988 01:26:04,333 --> 01:26:06,416 Finally, I was like, "No, you're not. 989 01:26:06,416 --> 01:26:08,708 "You're not an optimist. 990 01:26:08,708 --> 01:26:09,916 "You're not easygoing." 991 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,708 And now it's like, and I'm not either. 992 01:26:14,250 --> 01:26:15,416 I can't claim to be. 993 01:26:16,208 --> 01:26:16,500 I'm not. 994 01:26:16,875 --> 01:26:17,625 I never have been. 995 01:26:17,625 --> 01:26:19,333 I've never been an easygoing person. 996 01:26:20,291 --> 01:26:22,208 I'm an optimist, I think. 997 01:26:23,125 --> 01:26:23,833 I would say for sure. 998 01:26:23,875 --> 01:26:24,791 Most of the time. 999 01:26:24,791 --> 01:26:25,458 I would say for sure. 1000 01:26:25,875 --> 01:26:26,833 Unless I'm in a bad mood, 1001 01:26:26,833 --> 01:26:29,041 and then the world is crashing, right? 1002 01:26:29,041 --> 01:26:30,250 We all get like that. 1003 01:26:30,666 --> 01:26:31,791 Then everything's terrible. 1004 01:26:33,083 --> 01:26:34,833 But yeah, I think, 1005 01:26:35,666 --> 01:26:36,791 because you've been more, 1006 01:26:37,291 --> 01:26:38,583 you're like, "No, you have to be," 1007 01:26:38,791 --> 01:26:40,083 you said it earlier, you 1008 01:26:40,083 --> 01:26:41,833 just have to be super blunt. 1009 01:26:42,083 --> 01:26:44,166 And so, I'll never forget, I was like, 1010 01:26:44,583 --> 01:26:46,041 "Yeah, you're not an optimist, honey." 1011 01:26:46,416 --> 01:26:47,166 Well, that's what's funny. 1012 01:26:47,166 --> 01:26:47,791 I was just gonna say, 1013 01:26:47,791 --> 01:26:48,833 that's what's so funny though. 1014 01:26:48,875 --> 01:26:50,541 It took you 15 years. 1015 01:26:50,750 --> 01:26:52,583 Maybe that's just comfort level. 1016 01:26:52,583 --> 01:26:54,083 I mean, I don't know. 1017 01:26:54,750 --> 01:26:56,000 We're very comfortable with each other. 1018 01:26:57,208 --> 01:26:58,250 Well, I think we're upfront with you. 1019 01:26:58,250 --> 01:26:59,500 But that is a personality thing, 1020 01:26:59,625 --> 01:27:02,375 because you have had to learn that, 1021 01:27:02,375 --> 01:27:03,500 and you still are learning that. 1022 01:27:03,500 --> 01:27:04,541 I think even after 20 1023 01:27:04,541 --> 01:27:05,708 years of being together, 1024 01:27:05,708 --> 01:27:08,833 that be more blunt, just be more upfront. 1025 01:27:09,041 --> 01:27:10,375 Say what you want. 1026 01:27:10,375 --> 01:27:11,750 And that's a little bit of an 1027 01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:13,083 upbringing thing, potentially, 1028 01:27:13,333 --> 01:27:13,958 because I know your 1029 01:27:13,958 --> 01:27:15,291 family is much more sweet, 1030 01:27:15,291 --> 01:27:16,291 but under the crud. 1031 01:27:16,291 --> 01:27:17,375 And I'm not saying it's a bad thing, 1032 01:27:17,416 --> 01:27:19,500 but I mean, my family's not that way. 1033 01:27:19,500 --> 01:27:20,625 My family wears their 1034 01:27:20,625 --> 01:27:21,333 emotions under sleep. 1035 01:27:21,333 --> 01:27:22,875 We got a problem, let's talk about it. 1036 01:27:23,166 --> 01:27:25,291 At least, some of my family's that way. 1037 01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:26,500 There's other parts of my family 1038 01:27:26,500 --> 01:27:27,458 that aren't like that either. 1039 01:27:27,458 --> 01:27:28,958 But I am definitely a person 1040 01:27:28,958 --> 01:27:30,416 that I'm not just gonna be like, 1041 01:27:31,166 --> 01:27:32,208 let's pretend that didn't happen 1042 01:27:32,208 --> 01:27:33,541 and just smile at each other. 1043 01:27:34,250 --> 01:27:35,625 I hate that, I hate that. 1044 01:27:35,625 --> 01:27:36,958 And I know that's not easy. 1045 01:27:37,625 --> 01:27:41,250 Some people hate acknowledging the fact 1046 01:27:41,250 --> 01:27:42,291 that we need to have a conversation. 1047 01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:44,875 Because one of us is not happy. 1048 01:27:45,791 --> 01:27:46,875 And I think that's 1049 01:27:46,875 --> 01:27:48,333 something that, personality-wise, 1050 01:27:48,333 --> 01:27:49,041 we've worked on a lot 1051 01:27:49,041 --> 01:27:50,208 in our marriage of like, 1052 01:27:50,208 --> 01:27:53,041 hey, look, I'm very 1053 01:27:53,041 --> 01:27:53,916 upfront with those things. 1054 01:27:54,166 --> 01:27:55,833 And you've had to 1055 01:27:55,833 --> 01:27:58,333 learn to deal with that. 1056 01:27:58,500 --> 01:27:59,958 Because it's, and I have too, 1057 01:27:59,958 --> 01:28:01,625 it's not like I've hit you over the 1058 01:28:01,625 --> 01:28:02,416 hammer all the time. 1059 01:28:02,416 --> 01:28:04,833 I've tried not to do that, but it is. 1060 01:28:04,833 --> 01:28:05,875 It's very hard for me not 1061 01:28:05,875 --> 01:28:06,916 to have something to say 1062 01:28:07,875 --> 01:28:09,666 and not say it. 1063 01:28:10,791 --> 01:28:12,000 Where it's like, tell me 1064 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:13,291 I'm bad too, it's okay. 1065 01:28:13,500 --> 01:28:14,458 You can tell me I'm bad. 1066 01:28:14,916 --> 01:28:15,875 I'll work on it. 1067 01:28:15,875 --> 01:28:16,708 I don't know. 1068 01:28:17,333 --> 01:28:19,583 I'm a blunt, dumb guy sometimes. 1069 01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:22,375 And if you don't tell me, I won't know. 1070 01:28:22,625 --> 01:28:24,125 Just tell me exactly what it is. 1071 01:28:24,125 --> 01:28:25,083 And I'll work on it, I promise. 1072 01:28:25,833 --> 01:28:26,958 And I treat you the same way 1073 01:28:26,958 --> 01:28:28,416 and I know that's not how you definitely, 1074 01:28:28,416 --> 01:28:29,208 that's not how you want 1075 01:28:29,208 --> 01:28:30,083 it sometimes, delivered. 1076 01:28:30,916 --> 01:28:31,833 Yeah, and that's where it, 1077 01:28:33,541 --> 01:28:34,250 I think that's just 1078 01:28:34,250 --> 01:28:35,416 people's comfort level 1079 01:28:35,416 --> 01:28:37,666 with being super blunt, right? 1080 01:28:38,375 --> 01:28:40,583 Like, some people need the soft landing. 1081 01:28:40,791 --> 01:28:41,750 Like, you still need to hear it. 1082 01:28:41,791 --> 01:28:45,125 And I never would, when you would comment 1083 01:28:45,125 --> 01:28:45,875 about how you were 1084 01:28:45,875 --> 01:28:47,750 easy going and, you know, 1085 01:28:47,750 --> 01:28:50,375 I would never be like, oh yeah, you are. 1086 01:28:50,375 --> 01:28:51,333 I wouldn't actually agree with it. 1087 01:28:51,333 --> 01:28:53,875 I just wouldn't contradict it, you know? 1088 01:28:53,958 --> 01:28:55,041 I probably wasn't ready to hear that 1089 01:28:55,041 --> 01:28:56,291 at that point in my life though either. 1090 01:28:56,291 --> 01:28:57,208 Yeah, true. It was 15 years ago. 1091 01:28:57,500 --> 01:28:57,833 True. 1092 01:28:57,875 --> 01:28:58,916 I've had, you know, I've matured 1093 01:28:59,208 --> 01:29:00,125 during our relationship story. 1094 01:29:00,708 --> 01:29:02,083 I think we both have. 1095 01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:04,708 Let's hope so after 20, 1096 01:29:06,041 --> 01:29:08,500 more than 20 years together. 1097 01:29:08,500 --> 01:29:09,541 Yeah. Yeah. 1098 01:29:09,791 --> 01:29:10,791 That's a hard story to math in my head. 1099 01:29:11,833 --> 01:29:15,125 Well, I was still healing from, you know, 1100 01:29:17,166 --> 01:29:19,833 my tough earlier years when we met. 1101 01:29:20,083 --> 01:29:20,333 Yeah. 1102 01:29:20,333 --> 01:29:20,833 You know, we were still 1103 01:29:20,833 --> 01:29:21,541 going through some of that. 1104 01:29:21,541 --> 01:29:22,458 I mean, you saw some of that. 1105 01:29:22,458 --> 01:29:23,333 Yeah, yeah. 1106 01:29:23,458 --> 01:29:24,458 So, I mean, yeah, I've, 1107 01:29:25,500 --> 01:29:27,791 not that I'm a totally healed, great, 1108 01:29:28,041 --> 01:29:28,958 perfect person anymore, 1109 01:29:29,125 --> 01:29:30,791 but I mean, I definitely have matured 1110 01:29:30,791 --> 01:29:31,916 through some of those things. 1111 01:29:32,166 --> 01:29:32,375 Yeah. 1112 01:29:33,125 --> 01:29:33,750 And I'm still trying to 1113 01:29:33,750 --> 01:29:34,916 work on that because it is, 1114 01:29:34,916 --> 01:29:36,458 it's hard for me to have something to say 1115 01:29:36,458 --> 01:29:37,708 and give feedback to somebody. 1116 01:29:38,041 --> 01:29:38,791 And it's like, well, I just, 1117 01:29:39,375 --> 01:29:40,208 do you not want me to 1118 01:29:40,208 --> 01:29:41,250 tell you how I feel? 1119 01:29:42,041 --> 01:29:43,500 Yeah. Because now I'm just 1120 01:29:44,916 --> 01:29:46,250 keeping something from me that I feel 1121 01:29:46,250 --> 01:29:47,625 like you should know. 1122 01:29:47,916 --> 01:29:48,708 Yeah, yeah. 1123 01:29:48,708 --> 01:29:50,458 Or that I feel like I want to tell you. 1124 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:51,125 Yeah. 1125 01:29:52,375 --> 01:29:52,416 (laughing) 1126 01:29:52,708 --> 01:29:53,166 Right, right. 1127 01:29:53,375 --> 01:29:54,000 And sometimes it's 1128 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,041 just the messaging, right? 1129 01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:55,958 Like, and that's 1130 01:29:55,958 --> 01:29:59,333 where either of us may not 1131 01:30:00,208 --> 01:30:01,875 do it the right way all the time. 1132 01:30:01,875 --> 01:30:02,708 Like one, two blunt, 1133 01:30:02,916 --> 01:30:04,583 one, two subtle, right? 1134 01:30:04,583 --> 01:30:07,000 Or one even almost, like for my way, 1135 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:07,958 like I may be so subtle 1136 01:30:07,958 --> 01:30:09,125 that it never even came across 1137 01:30:09,125 --> 01:30:10,541 and it seems as complicit, right? 1138 01:30:11,458 --> 01:30:14,125 Like, but there's a 1139 01:30:14,125 --> 01:30:15,416 happy medium in there, right? 1140 01:30:15,458 --> 01:30:15,666 Yeah. 1141 01:30:16,708 --> 01:30:17,833 Not hurt someone's feelings, 1142 01:30:17,833 --> 01:30:20,083 but yet still let them hear the truth. 1143 01:30:20,583 --> 01:30:21,625 Right, right. 1144 01:30:22,208 --> 01:30:23,125 I'm still working on it. 1145 01:30:23,500 --> 01:30:24,666 Yeah, no, it's hard. 1146 01:30:24,666 --> 01:30:25,333 We're both working on 1147 01:30:25,333 --> 01:30:26,000 both of those things. 1148 01:30:27,541 --> 01:30:28,708 Anyways, but we're trying to, 1149 01:30:29,125 --> 01:30:30,500 it's just so interesting, the 1150 01:30:30,500 --> 01:30:31,500 difference in personalities. 1151 01:30:31,500 --> 01:30:32,291 I know other people out 1152 01:30:32,291 --> 01:30:33,666 there have the same issues. 1153 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,500 I mean, clearly they do because I mean, 1154 01:30:36,083 --> 01:30:37,083 think about how many 1155 01:30:37,083 --> 01:30:38,791 relationships don't work, you know? 1156 01:30:38,791 --> 01:30:41,541 So I mean, it's not easy being different 1157 01:30:42,500 --> 01:30:44,125 and trying to find that 1158 01:30:44,125 --> 01:30:46,250 common ground, you know? 1159 01:30:46,250 --> 01:30:47,750 I mean, I'll never forget. 1160 01:30:48,208 --> 01:30:49,500 I mean, my gosh, my 1161 01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:51,083 microphone does not wanna, 1162 01:30:52,291 --> 01:30:53,541 oh, okay, I remember it a while, sorry. 1163 01:30:53,833 --> 01:30:55,625 I tried to fix my mic and I still didn't. 1164 01:30:55,625 --> 01:30:56,458 It's just continuously 1165 01:30:56,458 --> 01:30:58,500 getting lower and lower here, but-- 1166 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,291 It'll just start sliding down. 1167 01:31:00,333 --> 01:31:01,500 Yeah, that's what I need to do. 1168 01:31:01,500 --> 01:31:02,666 I'll just start, that's right. 1169 01:31:03,375 --> 01:31:05,083 I'll just, I'll adjust to the mic. 1170 01:31:06,541 --> 01:31:09,541 Just be my eyebrows and up on the show. 1171 01:31:10,208 --> 01:31:11,791 It'll be me talking to an empty chair. 1172 01:31:11,791 --> 01:31:13,208 Those of you listening, they're like, 1173 01:31:13,208 --> 01:31:14,708 just get on with it, you know? 1174 01:31:15,208 --> 01:31:16,208 People watching are like, 1175 01:31:16,208 --> 01:31:17,916 this is a, what is happening? 1176 01:31:18,916 --> 01:31:19,625 Yeah, skip forward. 1177 01:31:21,250 --> 01:31:22,375 What I was gonna say is like, 1178 01:31:23,708 --> 01:31:25,250 you know, some of my 1179 01:31:25,250 --> 01:31:27,458 ex-girlfriends would know, 1180 01:31:27,791 --> 01:31:28,416 it's just like, as you 1181 01:31:28,416 --> 01:31:29,333 mature through these things, 1182 01:31:29,583 --> 01:31:32,416 like, I'll never forget one 1183 01:31:32,416 --> 01:31:33,833 of the things that changed, 1184 01:31:34,916 --> 01:31:36,875 that only you've had in our relationship 1185 01:31:37,166 --> 01:31:38,000 is the fact that I could 1186 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:39,833 get over like a disagreement 1187 01:31:39,833 --> 01:31:41,375 or an argument or something like that. 1188 01:31:41,750 --> 01:31:42,125 You know what I mean? 1189 01:31:42,291 --> 01:31:43,916 Like, I think the biggest thing when I, 1190 01:31:43,916 --> 01:31:44,958 like high school girlfriends, like, 1191 01:31:44,958 --> 01:31:45,958 I was just insanely 1192 01:31:45,958 --> 01:31:49,125 jealous because I was so clingy 1193 01:31:49,125 --> 01:31:49,750 because that was the 1194 01:31:49,750 --> 01:31:51,083 only source of like love 1195 01:31:51,083 --> 01:31:52,166 and belonging I had 1196 01:31:52,166 --> 01:31:54,166 is with that girlfriend 1197 01:31:54,166 --> 01:31:55,166 at the time, probably. 1198 01:31:55,791 --> 01:31:57,500 And so that was just so unhealthy. 1199 01:31:58,000 --> 01:31:59,458 I mean, talk about, I don't 1200 01:31:59,458 --> 01:32:00,500 know if it was codependency, 1201 01:32:00,500 --> 01:32:02,208 but it was 100% 1202 01:32:02,458 --> 01:32:03,500 dependency on my part, you know? 1203 01:32:03,500 --> 01:32:04,500 So that was just, that's 1204 01:32:04,500 --> 01:32:05,333 where all that came from, 1205 01:32:05,875 --> 01:32:06,375 completely unhealthy. 1206 01:32:06,958 --> 01:32:07,708 I know I don't talk 1207 01:32:07,708 --> 01:32:08,458 to any of you anymore, 1208 01:32:08,458 --> 01:32:09,458 but my apologies. 1209 01:32:10,666 --> 01:32:11,916 I turned out to be normal, I promise. 1210 01:32:12,583 --> 01:32:13,333 I think I did. 1211 01:32:13,333 --> 01:32:14,125 I can vouch for this. 1212 01:32:14,125 --> 01:32:14,833 It's close to normal. 1213 01:32:15,041 --> 01:32:15,791 It's totally normal. 1214 01:32:16,416 --> 01:32:17,833 But then my adult 1215 01:32:17,833 --> 01:32:19,208 girlfriends, it was then like, 1216 01:32:19,208 --> 01:32:19,958 I couldn't let go 1217 01:32:19,958 --> 01:32:20,833 because I had a lot of anger 1218 01:32:21,666 --> 01:32:24,583 from growing up and I hadn't 1219 01:32:24,583 --> 01:32:25,791 dealt with that anger, right? 1220 01:32:25,791 --> 01:32:26,750 So like when I would get in a, 1221 01:32:27,125 --> 01:32:28,458 we'd get disagreements or 1222 01:32:28,458 --> 01:32:29,500 arguments and stuff like that. 1223 01:32:29,708 --> 01:32:32,375 I could not let that anger go like that. 1224 01:32:32,375 --> 01:32:33,833 It would just build up anger in me. 1225 01:32:34,291 --> 01:32:35,791 It was just embers all the time. 1226 01:32:36,250 --> 01:32:37,458 And so you know, you fan the 1227 01:32:37,458 --> 01:32:39,125 embers and I couldn't let it go. 1228 01:32:39,125 --> 01:32:40,041 I would be mad over 1229 01:32:40,041 --> 01:32:41,750 like the dumbest arguments, 1230 01:32:42,208 --> 01:32:44,666 like dumb arguments for like a week. 1231 01:32:44,666 --> 01:32:46,291 I just couldn't get over it 1232 01:32:46,291 --> 01:32:47,916 because it was just constant embers. 1233 01:32:48,875 --> 01:32:49,875 This is in my early 1234 01:32:49,875 --> 01:32:51,125 twenties now, mind you. 1235 01:32:51,500 --> 01:32:52,750 This is not last week. 1236 01:32:54,416 --> 01:32:55,666 But that was something, 1237 01:32:55,666 --> 01:32:56,666 that was the biggest thing 1238 01:32:56,666 --> 01:32:57,625 I remember maturing 1239 01:32:57,625 --> 01:32:59,583 through with our relationship. 1240 01:32:59,958 --> 01:33:01,500 Somehow that I could 1241 01:33:01,500 --> 01:33:02,541 just cut off and left behind 1242 01:33:02,708 --> 01:33:04,916 because when you and I had a disagreement 1243 01:33:05,208 --> 01:33:05,958 or whatever it was, 1244 01:33:06,666 --> 01:33:08,125 whatever it might've been, 1245 01:33:08,500 --> 01:33:11,041 I was able to leave that behind me. 1246 01:33:11,333 --> 01:33:12,375 Like when that argument 1247 01:33:12,375 --> 01:33:13,625 ended, I could end it. 1248 01:33:14,083 --> 01:33:15,875 I didn't, it didn't, I 1249 01:33:15,875 --> 01:33:17,041 didn't carry that weight 1250 01:33:17,041 --> 01:33:18,208 and that anger with me. 1251 01:33:18,583 --> 01:33:19,000 And that was something 1252 01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,708 that I did for decades. 1253 01:33:22,583 --> 01:33:23,416 Because that's one thing 1254 01:33:23,416 --> 01:33:26,208 that all couples have to do 1255 01:33:26,500 --> 01:33:30,666 and do it well to a certain degree 1256 01:33:30,666 --> 01:33:32,666 is like have disagreements, but yet still 1257 01:33:32,666 --> 01:33:34,500 move forward, right? 1258 01:33:34,791 --> 01:33:35,000 Right. 1259 01:33:37,208 --> 01:33:38,333 I mean, you've seen things 1260 01:33:38,333 --> 01:33:39,250 like one of the best things 1261 01:33:39,250 --> 01:33:41,041 to do is argue in front of your children 1262 01:33:41,208 --> 01:33:42,750 because then they can actually see 1263 01:33:42,750 --> 01:33:43,875 conflict resolution. 1264 01:33:44,666 --> 01:33:45,708 You know, I don't think you 1265 01:33:45,708 --> 01:33:46,541 should argue all the time. 1266 01:33:48,333 --> 01:33:50,000 But like they should see some-- 1267 01:33:50,916 --> 01:33:51,833 At least once a day argue 1268 01:33:51,833 --> 01:33:52,541 in front of your children. 1269 01:33:53,041 --> 01:33:53,833 That's the, if you 1270 01:33:53,833 --> 01:33:54,833 learn anything from today. 1271 01:33:54,875 --> 01:33:55,458 You learn anything. 1272 01:33:56,500 --> 01:34:00,750 But a healthy argument, you know, 1273 01:34:01,083 --> 01:34:03,458 like resolving it in a healthy way 1274 01:34:03,791 --> 01:34:04,208 because you're not 1275 01:34:04,208 --> 01:34:05,500 always gonna agree on things. 1276 01:34:06,041 --> 01:34:06,250 Yes. 1277 01:34:06,708 --> 01:34:07,750 I mean, we agree on 1278 01:34:07,750 --> 01:34:10,916 most things, you know? 1279 01:34:11,833 --> 01:34:13,958 And I don't remember 1280 01:34:13,958 --> 01:34:15,500 which child I was talking to 1281 01:34:15,500 --> 01:34:17,958 and I was like, in a marriage, 1282 01:34:17,958 --> 01:34:19,500 yet you're not gonna agree on everything 1283 01:34:19,500 --> 01:34:21,000 and don't expect that. 1284 01:34:21,916 --> 01:34:24,083 Otherwise, there's a whole other level 1285 01:34:24,083 --> 01:34:25,416 of unhealthiness if you do. 1286 01:34:25,625 --> 01:34:27,000 Right, right. 1287 01:34:27,041 --> 01:34:28,166 You know, because you 1288 01:34:28,166 --> 01:34:29,083 are two different people 1289 01:34:29,541 --> 01:34:31,541 that are spending a lifetime together. 1290 01:34:32,083 --> 01:34:32,500 You have different 1291 01:34:32,500 --> 01:34:34,000 upbringings, different ideas, 1292 01:34:34,208 --> 01:34:35,625 different, all of it, 1293 01:34:35,625 --> 01:34:36,208 different personalities. 1294 01:34:36,833 --> 01:34:38,750 Yeah, I don't know if we've mentioned it 1295 01:34:38,750 --> 01:34:40,208 on the show before, but I just, I think, 1296 01:34:40,833 --> 01:34:41,791 some of the best advice 1297 01:34:41,791 --> 01:34:44,125 that we gave someone on this, 1298 01:34:44,750 --> 01:34:45,208 because you had to 1299 01:34:45,208 --> 01:34:47,000 give a wedding present. 1300 01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:47,500 I did. 1301 01:34:47,500 --> 01:34:48,000 Right, and we were trying 1302 01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:49,125 to figure out what it was 1303 01:34:49,541 --> 01:34:51,708 and we gave a tie to my 1304 01:34:51,708 --> 01:34:53,041 little sister on her wedding. 1305 01:34:53,458 --> 01:34:53,666 Yeah. 1306 01:34:54,375 --> 01:34:55,875 You presented it and gave it 1307 01:34:55,875 --> 01:34:56,416 to her and stuff like that, 1308 01:34:56,416 --> 01:34:56,875 but you go ahead, you 1309 01:34:56,875 --> 01:34:57,458 can tell them what it was. 1310 01:34:57,458 --> 01:34:58,708 No, it was your idea, you go. 1311 01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,541 Well, it was just, what was 1312 01:35:01,541 --> 01:35:02,750 the premise we were giving it? 1313 01:35:03,375 --> 01:35:04,625 It was, I mean, it 1314 01:35:04,625 --> 01:35:05,833 was for a wedding shower 1315 01:35:06,250 --> 01:35:07,958 and I can't even remember now. 1316 01:35:08,291 --> 01:35:09,250 There was supposed to be like a-- 1317 01:35:10,625 --> 01:35:12,291 A piece of advice and 1318 01:35:12,291 --> 01:35:14,916 then a present that kind of-- 1319 01:35:14,916 --> 01:35:16,041 But they were supposed to go together. 1320 01:35:16,083 --> 01:35:17,291 They were supposed to go together, yeah. 1321 01:35:18,083 --> 01:35:18,791 So anyways, we gave 1322 01:35:18,791 --> 01:35:20,666 them a tie, like a necktie, 1323 01:35:21,333 --> 01:35:22,625 because we kind of felt 1324 01:35:22,625 --> 01:35:23,625 like in our relationship, 1325 01:35:24,166 --> 01:35:26,833 that it's okay to tie. 1326 01:35:27,291 --> 01:35:27,833 Like there doesn't have 1327 01:35:27,833 --> 01:35:29,083 to be a winner or a loser 1328 01:35:29,083 --> 01:35:31,416 of a conversation or an argument, right? 1329 01:35:31,416 --> 01:35:32,500 It's okay just to say, 1330 01:35:32,916 --> 01:35:34,250 all right, well we tie. 1331 01:35:34,500 --> 01:35:36,250 Like I don't have to win this. 1332 01:35:36,458 --> 01:35:36,666 Right. 1333 01:35:37,041 --> 01:35:39,500 And that takes a level of maturity, 1334 01:35:39,750 --> 01:35:40,625 because that was something I had to do 1335 01:35:40,625 --> 01:35:41,416 for a long time too, 1336 01:35:41,416 --> 01:35:42,208 is feel like I had to win. 1337 01:35:42,750 --> 01:35:44,000 I think we're worse at that now. 1338 01:35:46,333 --> 01:35:49,041 (laughing) I think there's times like, 1339 01:35:49,041 --> 01:35:50,125 oh, we're gonna dig in here? 1340 01:35:50,125 --> 01:35:51,000 You're gonna dig in? 1341 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:52,083 You're like, you're digging in? 1342 01:35:52,125 --> 01:35:52,583 I'll dig in. 1343 01:35:53,333 --> 01:35:54,958 And there's times when it's like, 1344 01:35:56,708 --> 01:35:58,333 there's times when you're like, 1345 01:35:58,583 --> 01:36:00,041 no, I'm just letting this one go. 1346 01:36:00,583 --> 01:36:02,041 And you know, it's like, 1347 01:36:02,583 --> 01:36:03,500 I still think I'm right, 1348 01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:04,750 but I don't care. 1349 01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,208 It really is not worth arguing over. 1350 01:36:07,625 --> 01:36:07,875 Yeah. 1351 01:36:08,500 --> 01:36:09,875 You know, I thought you were speeding 1352 01:36:09,875 --> 01:36:10,916 faster than you were. 1353 01:36:10,916 --> 01:36:11,875 That's probably the biggest 1354 01:36:11,875 --> 01:36:13,541 one where we kind of just like, 1355 01:36:13,625 --> 01:36:16,000 okay, I'm not gonna dig in here. 1356 01:36:16,625 --> 01:36:16,833 Like-- 1357 01:36:17,708 --> 01:36:18,958 Speeding is where you went with that? 1358 01:36:19,625 --> 01:36:19,958 (laughing) 1359 01:36:20,208 --> 01:36:22,291 Sometimes you'll be like, I don't speed. 1360 01:36:22,750 --> 01:36:23,875 And in my mind, I'm like, 1361 01:36:23,875 --> 01:36:25,583 you always speed, you know? 1362 01:36:26,375 --> 01:36:27,250 I don't speed excessively. 1363 01:36:27,666 --> 01:36:28,458 I think you think I 1364 01:36:28,458 --> 01:36:30,000 drive like 95 miles an hour, 1365 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:30,916 no matter where I go. 1366 01:36:31,708 --> 01:36:33,000 And I don't, generally. 1367 01:36:33,291 --> 01:36:34,666 I will catch the next 1368 01:36:34,666 --> 01:36:35,791 person in front of me usually, 1369 01:36:35,791 --> 01:36:40,125 but I mean, I'm pretty comfy around 80. 1370 01:36:40,875 --> 01:36:41,458 You are. 1371 01:36:42,375 --> 01:36:44,500 Well, that's not pushed this too long. 1372 01:36:44,500 --> 01:36:46,291 It's any highlights from our Austin trip 1373 01:36:46,291 --> 01:36:47,250 this last week for you? 1374 01:36:48,875 --> 01:36:49,666 Maybe a learning. 1375 01:36:50,541 --> 01:36:51,000 Learning what? 1376 01:36:52,166 --> 01:36:53,875 So I've only been to Austin once. 1377 01:36:54,250 --> 01:36:54,458 Okay. 1378 01:36:54,791 --> 01:36:56,125 There is so much 1379 01:36:56,125 --> 01:36:57,791 flippin' road construction 1380 01:36:57,791 --> 01:36:58,875 going on in Austin. 1381 01:37:00,791 --> 01:37:01,625 Holy moly. 1382 01:37:01,625 --> 01:37:02,750 I was like, and I 1383 01:37:02,750 --> 01:37:03,833 mean, we never knew if Waze 1384 01:37:03,833 --> 01:37:05,083 was gonna tell us the right way 1385 01:37:05,208 --> 01:37:07,791 because just random exits would be closed 1386 01:37:07,791 --> 01:37:09,000 because of road construction. 1387 01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:12,625 I mean, how many roads like ended? 1388 01:37:12,875 --> 01:37:14,291 And we're like, oh, can't turn here, 1389 01:37:14,291 --> 01:37:16,000 but it tells me I'm supposed to. 1390 01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:16,791 How many different ways 1391 01:37:16,791 --> 01:37:17,833 did Waze try to take us 1392 01:37:17,833 --> 01:37:19,375 to make our way? 1393 01:37:20,500 --> 01:37:22,958 Every way is different in Waze. 1394 01:37:23,625 --> 01:37:23,833 Yeah. 1395 01:37:24,291 --> 01:37:25,791 Well, yeah, there was 1396 01:37:25,791 --> 01:37:27,250 a college football game 1397 01:37:27,250 --> 01:37:30,166 Friday night on 35 in the middle of, 1398 01:37:30,166 --> 01:37:33,125 in the middle of, they have a whole side 1399 01:37:33,125 --> 01:37:34,125 of the highway down. 1400 01:37:34,375 --> 01:37:35,375 So it's got it down to two 1401 01:37:35,375 --> 01:37:36,875 lanes on one side of the highway 1402 01:37:36,875 --> 01:37:37,875 because we're expanding it. 1403 01:37:38,791 --> 01:37:39,583 I mean, good Lord. 1404 01:37:39,583 --> 01:37:41,000 Is there any highway in the United States 1405 01:37:41,083 --> 01:37:42,000 not being expanded? 1406 01:37:42,791 --> 01:37:43,166 I don't know. 1407 01:37:43,791 --> 01:37:44,500 Weren't we supposed to 1408 01:37:44,500 --> 01:37:45,875 be in flying cars by now? 1409 01:37:47,125 --> 01:37:47,833 And they should have, 1410 01:37:47,833 --> 01:37:48,541 they should just expand 1411 01:37:48,666 --> 01:37:50,041 all highways to like-- 1412 01:37:50,083 --> 01:37:50,625 100 lanes. 1413 01:37:50,625 --> 01:37:51,833 100 lanes, yeah, exactly. 1414 01:37:52,166 --> 01:37:53,875 I was gonna say something ridiculous too. 1415 01:37:53,916 --> 01:37:55,000 Yeah, that is pretty ridiculous. 1416 01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:55,500 You know what I mean? 1417 01:37:56,125 --> 01:37:57,458 Or just go with the tube 1418 01:37:57,458 --> 01:37:58,291 theory and does everybody, 1419 01:37:58,750 --> 01:38:01,291 boom, you know, just send 1420 01:38:01,291 --> 01:38:02,416 cars down one at a time. 1421 01:38:02,958 --> 01:38:04,000 Like that, you know 1422 01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:04,791 exactly what I'm saying. 1423 01:38:05,250 --> 01:38:05,708 I do. 1424 01:38:06,708 --> 01:38:08,791 Yeah, no, that was good. 1425 01:38:09,916 --> 01:38:10,625 Trying to think if I 1426 01:38:10,625 --> 01:38:11,750 had any takeaways from it. 1427 01:38:12,583 --> 01:38:14,125 Oh, the one 1428 01:38:14,125 --> 01:38:17,375 intersection that was bass-acwards. 1429 01:38:17,583 --> 01:38:20,875 Any intersection we've ever been through. 1430 01:38:21,666 --> 01:38:23,625 30 years of driving, never seen this. 1431 01:38:23,625 --> 01:38:24,625 And how many cars did we 1432 01:38:24,625 --> 01:38:27,041 see quite literally driving 1433 01:38:27,666 --> 01:38:28,833 the wrong way on the road? 1434 01:38:28,833 --> 01:38:29,708 There's no way to explain 1435 01:38:29,708 --> 01:38:30,875 this in a short amount of time 1436 01:38:30,875 --> 01:38:32,250 when we're trying to wrap this up. 1437 01:38:32,250 --> 01:38:33,208 This just tell you that 1438 01:38:33,208 --> 01:38:34,583 this was the most complex 1439 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,333 right hand turn lane 1440 01:38:37,333 --> 01:38:39,875 anywhere in the United States. 1441 01:38:40,083 --> 01:38:41,750 Because the right hand turn took you into 1442 01:38:42,541 --> 01:38:44,000 the middle of the road. 1443 01:38:44,458 --> 01:38:46,791 If you turned into the first two lanes, 1444 01:38:47,333 --> 01:38:48,250 you're turning yourself 1445 01:38:48,250 --> 01:38:49,708 into oncoming traffic. 1446 01:38:50,416 --> 01:38:51,666 Instead, you went down into 1447 01:38:51,666 --> 01:38:53,041 the middle of oncoming traffic. 1448 01:38:53,041 --> 01:38:54,500 There was one lane going straight, 1449 01:38:54,500 --> 01:38:55,833 then you turned next to that one. 1450 01:38:56,583 --> 01:38:57,625 And then the next two lanes 1451 01:38:57,625 --> 01:38:59,041 were oncoming to turn left. 1452 01:38:59,583 --> 01:39:02,041 So you basically split oncoming traffic. 1453 01:39:02,708 --> 01:39:02,833 Yes. 1454 01:39:03,083 --> 01:39:03,833 And there was the sign 1455 01:39:03,833 --> 01:39:04,833 that we were looking at before 1456 01:39:04,833 --> 01:39:05,791 and I'd never been there going like, 1457 01:39:05,791 --> 01:39:07,250 "Do you understand what that sign means?" 1458 01:39:07,291 --> 01:39:08,708 Every single one of us was 1459 01:39:08,708 --> 01:39:09,625 like, "What does that mean?" 1460 01:39:09,958 --> 01:39:11,083 So we asked the kid 1461 01:39:11,083 --> 01:39:13,041 who's taking driver's ed, 1462 01:39:13,041 --> 01:39:14,666 we're like, "Is that like a new thing?" 1463 01:39:14,791 --> 01:39:15,625 And she's like, "I don't 1464 01:39:15,625 --> 01:39:16,958 know what that sign means." 1465 01:39:17,333 --> 01:39:18,333 Every single one of us said, 1466 01:39:18,458 --> 01:39:19,666 "I don't know what that sign means." 1467 01:39:19,750 --> 01:39:21,750 So on the way back from that one time, 1468 01:39:21,750 --> 01:39:22,500 now that I knew what it 1469 01:39:22,500 --> 01:39:25,875 was, I watched and five cars 1470 01:39:26,250 --> 01:39:27,000 were driving into 1471 01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:28,000 oncoming traffic on this 1472 01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:29,250 because it's so complex. 1473 01:39:29,916 --> 01:39:31,916 It makes no sense to do that way. 1474 01:39:32,208 --> 01:39:33,000 No sense, it's just 1475 01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:33,916 outside of Flugerville. 1476 01:39:35,333 --> 01:39:35,625 (laughing) 1477 01:39:35,625 --> 01:39:36,958 Which is nice to be laughing at. 1478 01:39:37,041 --> 01:39:39,458 Yeah, with a P outside of Austin. 1479 01:39:39,750 --> 01:39:41,250 And it is the dumbest 1480 01:39:41,250 --> 01:39:42,625 intersection of all time. 1481 01:39:43,291 --> 01:39:46,541 So then as I'm going, four cars head on 1482 01:39:46,625 --> 01:39:48,583 into two lanes going the wrong way. 1483 01:39:49,708 --> 01:39:50,500 So five cars. 1484 01:39:50,750 --> 01:39:53,041 And the one cycle of 1485 01:39:53,041 --> 01:39:54,166 light that I went through, 1486 01:39:55,041 --> 01:39:55,708 we're driving into 1487 01:39:55,708 --> 01:39:59,375 head on oncoming traffic. 1488 01:40:00,875 --> 01:40:01,625 You know what, everyone 1489 01:40:01,625 --> 01:40:03,625 should just Google Flugerville 1490 01:40:04,250 --> 01:40:04,708 with P. 1491 01:40:06,666 --> 01:40:07,583 Stupid intersection. 1492 01:40:08,166 --> 01:40:09,375 Oh, it's probably there, yeah. 1493 01:40:09,375 --> 01:40:10,333 And I bet it's gotta be there. 1494 01:40:10,333 --> 01:40:11,583 And I bet you will find-- 1495 01:40:12,125 --> 01:40:13,750 That was my one take away from it. 1496 01:40:13,750 --> 01:40:13,958 Yeah. 1497 01:40:14,708 --> 01:40:16,375 I'm astonished at it. 1498 01:40:16,833 --> 01:40:18,583 Whoever, whatever civil 1499 01:40:18,583 --> 01:40:20,458 engineer pulled that one together. 1500 01:40:20,791 --> 01:40:21,708 They had to be drunk. 1501 01:40:21,750 --> 01:40:22,958 I don't understand it at all. 1502 01:40:22,958 --> 01:40:23,958 I just don't understand 1503 01:40:23,958 --> 01:40:24,791 how that works better. 1504 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:26,875 They had to be drunk. 1505 01:40:26,958 --> 01:40:28,375 Every time I was at that intersection, 1506 01:40:28,666 --> 01:40:29,375 somebody was going 1507 01:40:29,375 --> 01:40:31,333 driving into oncoming traffic. 1508 01:40:31,583 --> 01:40:31,750 Yes. 1509 01:40:32,083 --> 01:40:32,625 Every single time. 1510 01:40:33,083 --> 01:40:33,625 And we went to-- 1511 01:40:33,666 --> 01:40:35,250 And I've never seen that anywhere. 1512 01:40:35,541 --> 01:40:39,375 Other than on the cops TV show. 1513 01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:41,083 Have I seen somebody else 1514 01:40:41,083 --> 01:40:42,333 driving into oncoming traffic? 1515 01:40:42,333 --> 01:40:43,500 And they were being chased by cops. 1516 01:40:43,541 --> 01:40:43,750 Right. 1517 01:40:44,083 --> 01:40:44,416 Right. 1518 01:40:44,458 --> 01:40:45,375 And they probably get arrested 1519 01:40:45,375 --> 01:40:47,166 and likely are under the influence. 1520 01:40:47,375 --> 01:40:49,083 Yeah, these were probably completely-- 1521 01:40:49,166 --> 01:40:51,041 Yeah, or they ran out of the car naked. 1522 01:40:53,291 --> 01:40:54,750 Flug got a cops show? 1523 01:40:55,166 --> 01:40:56,291 They had a, that sounds-- 1524 01:40:56,333 --> 01:40:56,708 It's all blurred. 1525 01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:57,916 You haven't seen that episode? 1526 01:40:58,375 --> 01:40:59,125 You know what? 1527 01:40:59,291 --> 01:41:02,583 It's like episode 90 through 180. 1528 01:41:02,875 --> 01:41:03,500 I mean, there's a lot of 1529 01:41:03,500 --> 01:41:04,333 people that do that apparently. 1530 01:41:04,750 --> 01:41:05,208 Oh, okay. 1531 01:41:05,791 --> 01:41:06,291 I don't think it's that hot. 1532 01:41:06,333 --> 01:41:07,833 I just can't take your word for it. 1533 01:41:08,208 --> 01:41:09,500 Like, never the C. 1534 01:41:09,791 --> 01:41:10,500 Which is good. 1535 01:41:10,833 --> 01:41:12,083 That was my one take away. 1536 01:41:12,083 --> 01:41:13,375 That was my one take away from Austin. 1537 01:41:13,583 --> 01:41:14,166 Kids played great. 1538 01:41:14,416 --> 01:41:15,250 Kids played great. 1539 01:41:15,291 --> 01:41:16,166 Good season opener. 1540 01:41:16,166 --> 01:41:17,291 It was always fun, but 1541 01:41:17,291 --> 01:41:19,500 man, yeah, Bass, Edwards. 1542 01:41:20,166 --> 01:41:20,416 Yep. 1543 01:41:21,500 --> 01:41:22,750 Flugerville's stupid intersection. 1544 01:41:23,125 --> 01:41:24,916 I have to believe it's a thing. 1545 01:41:24,958 --> 01:41:25,541 It is a thing. 1546 01:41:25,541 --> 01:41:26,125 It's gotta be. 1547 01:41:26,208 --> 01:41:26,833 It's gotta be trending 1548 01:41:26,833 --> 01:41:27,791 on Twitter or something. 1549 01:41:27,791 --> 01:41:28,625 It's gotta be. 1550 01:41:28,625 --> 01:41:29,708 Let's make it trend on Twitter. 1551 01:41:29,708 --> 01:41:31,125 Maybe I'll put a picture of it up here. 1552 01:41:31,125 --> 01:41:31,500 Oh yeah. 1553 01:41:32,041 --> 01:41:32,625 At some point. 1554 01:41:32,625 --> 01:41:33,333 Let's do that. 1555 01:41:33,333 --> 01:41:34,458 That sign that, and then we 1556 01:41:34,458 --> 01:41:35,375 can just make everyone go, 1557 01:41:35,625 --> 01:41:36,583 what in the heck? 1558 01:41:37,041 --> 01:41:38,166 Yeah, maybe they'll change it. 1559 01:41:39,375 --> 01:41:39,833 Change people. 1560 01:41:40,333 --> 01:41:41,458 Change is progress. 1561 01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:42,958 Be the change you 1562 01:41:42,958 --> 01:41:43,958 want to see in the world. 1563 01:41:44,291 --> 01:41:44,750 Here you go. 1564 01:41:45,208 --> 01:41:46,041 Let's end it with that. 1565 01:41:47,208 --> 01:41:48,333 All right, let's come up with our words. 1566 01:41:48,333 --> 01:41:49,250 We don't get too long here. 1567 01:41:51,958 --> 01:41:52,708 Guy, you got yours. 1568 01:41:52,708 --> 01:41:53,083 I got mine. 1569 01:41:53,333 --> 01:41:53,583 Okay. 1570 01:41:55,541 --> 01:41:55,791 I do. 1571 01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,166 I don't love mine, but okay. 1572 01:41:58,333 --> 01:41:59,000 I don't love mine either, 1573 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:00,458 but I couldn't find a better way of 1574 01:42:00,458 --> 01:42:01,250 saying it with one word. 1575 01:42:02,750 --> 01:42:05,083 I was just saying, one, two, three. 1576 01:42:05,875 --> 01:42:06,416 Agility. Acceleration. 1577 01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:07,583 Oh, agility. 1578 01:42:08,375 --> 01:42:08,750 What was that? 1579 01:42:10,458 --> 01:42:13,333 So I think last week, 1580 01:42:13,958 --> 01:42:16,000 just kind of threw a 1581 01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:17,208 ton of curve balls, right? 1582 01:42:17,708 --> 01:42:19,541 Like, you know, I 1583 01:42:19,541 --> 01:42:20,666 think about a night where, 1584 01:42:20,666 --> 01:42:21,541 oh, all practice was 1585 01:42:21,541 --> 01:42:22,375 canceled, celebration. 1586 01:42:22,625 --> 01:42:23,416 And then it became one of 1587 01:42:23,416 --> 01:42:24,500 the craziest nights ever. 1588 01:42:24,500 --> 01:42:25,875 We ended up going to bed way later. 1589 01:42:25,875 --> 01:42:26,583 And then we had to 1590 01:42:26,583 --> 01:42:27,958 throw in a trip to Austin 1591 01:42:27,958 --> 01:42:29,583 where everything's going to get canceled. 1592 01:42:29,583 --> 01:42:30,333 Are they not? 1593 01:42:30,333 --> 01:42:31,875 It was just one of those weeks 1594 01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:33,541 that felt like we 1595 01:42:33,541 --> 01:42:34,875 were constantly pivoting. 1596 01:42:35,291 --> 01:42:36,333 Yeah, that's true. 1597 01:42:36,333 --> 01:42:37,875 We were a lot of curve balls. 1598 01:42:38,125 --> 01:42:39,958 Okay, so I want to hear 1599 01:42:39,958 --> 01:42:41,125 about your acceleration. 1600 01:42:41,458 --> 01:42:42,041 I mean, it's similar. 1601 01:42:42,250 --> 01:42:43,416 Acceleration was just like, you know, 1602 01:42:43,416 --> 01:42:44,208 we're just peddling to the metal. 1603 01:42:44,458 --> 01:42:46,083 I mean, we're just going, you're right. 1604 01:42:46,083 --> 01:42:46,791 It's like, okay, we're 1605 01:42:46,791 --> 01:42:48,083 taking a hard left turn here, 1606 01:42:48,083 --> 01:42:49,125 but we still got to go. 1607 01:42:49,166 --> 01:42:49,625 Yeah. 1608 01:42:49,666 --> 01:42:50,041 You know what I mean? 1609 01:42:50,041 --> 01:42:50,541 It's like, we're going, 1610 01:42:50,541 --> 01:42:51,208 we're going, we're going. 1611 01:42:51,708 --> 01:42:53,083 It sort of felt like, to your point, 1612 01:42:53,416 --> 01:42:53,875 like, partners were 1613 01:42:53,875 --> 01:42:54,833 canceled, no big deal. 1614 01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:55,458 Now we're going to go 1615 01:42:55,458 --> 01:42:56,208 to the football game. 1616 01:42:56,250 --> 01:42:56,958 Right, right. 1617 01:42:57,333 --> 01:42:58,000 Oh wait, now I'm 1618 01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:58,833 going to draw up off a kid 1619 01:42:58,833 --> 01:42:59,708 at the football game while 1620 01:42:59,708 --> 01:43:00,875 I'm picking up another kid. 1621 01:43:00,875 --> 01:43:01,541 Like, who's going to now 1622 01:43:01,541 --> 01:43:03,250 stay at the, it was just weird. 1623 01:43:04,208 --> 01:43:05,416 I felt like Frogger. 1624 01:43:05,708 --> 01:43:06,583 Maybe Frogger would have 1625 01:43:06,583 --> 01:43:07,541 been in the football game. 1626 01:43:07,541 --> 01:43:08,708 That was a really good one, yeah. 1627 01:43:09,083 --> 01:43:10,291 Like, just, yeah, 1628 01:43:10,416 --> 01:43:11,208 because that is both of those. 1629 01:43:11,250 --> 01:43:11,958 I think it's a good picture. 1630 01:43:12,416 --> 01:43:12,625 Yeah. 1631 01:43:12,791 --> 01:43:13,000 Yeah. 1632 01:43:14,083 --> 01:43:15,500 All right, well, made 1633 01:43:15,500 --> 01:43:16,250 it through another week. 1634 01:43:16,250 --> 01:43:16,500 Good job. 1635 01:43:16,791 --> 01:43:17,916 We did, I'm fine. 1636 01:43:18,583 --> 01:43:19,250 And now we're in 1637 01:43:19,250 --> 01:43:21,625 September, where we're into fall. 1638 01:43:22,041 --> 01:43:23,208 My favorite, my 1639 01:43:23,208 --> 01:43:24,625 favorite season of the year. 1640 01:43:25,500 --> 01:43:26,333 Are we officially in fall? 1641 01:43:26,791 --> 01:43:27,291 That doesn't happen until 1642 01:43:27,291 --> 01:43:28,583 like October or something. 1643 01:43:29,916 --> 01:43:32,250 The autumnal equinox falls. 1644 01:43:32,791 --> 01:43:33,833 I don't know when it is. 1645 01:43:34,208 --> 01:43:34,916 Technically, I think 1646 01:43:34,916 --> 01:43:35,541 that's when it starts, 1647 01:43:35,833 --> 01:43:36,416 but I don't know, 1648 01:43:36,541 --> 01:43:37,708 September seems like fall to me. 1649 01:43:38,083 --> 01:43:38,291 Yeah. 1650 01:43:38,333 --> 01:43:39,291 So we're going to go with it. 1651 01:43:39,416 --> 01:43:40,375 Yeah, we're going to go with it. 1652 01:43:41,041 --> 01:43:41,750 Well, we saw a pumpkin 1653 01:43:41,750 --> 01:43:43,000 spice, pancakes are out, 1654 01:43:43,208 --> 01:43:45,416 so pumpkin spice has arrived, 1655 01:43:45,416 --> 01:43:46,458 which means fall has arrived. 1656 01:43:48,833 --> 01:43:53,583 There we go. 1657 01:43:54,083 --> 01:43:55,083 All right, hey, thanks 1658 01:43:55,083 --> 01:43:55,833 for joining everybody. 1659 01:43:55,833 --> 01:43:56,541 Hope you have a great week. 1660 01:43:56,875 --> 01:43:57,833 All right, ciao ciao. 1661 01:43:58,583 --> 01:43:58,833 See ya.