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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun in practical
ways. Well, if you're listening according

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to each day, happy Monday and
good morning, good morning, it is

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Monday, and nobody likes Mondays or
I wonder if there's anybody that actually likes

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Mondays. I don't know, like
if somebody says, oh, it's Monday.

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Oh, they just need to keep
it to themselves. That's how I

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feel about it. Just keep it
to yourself. I think so too.

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But anyway, good morning. Nevertheless, nonetheless, and my name is Chris,

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this is Jeff. We are the
Bible Guys, and today we're continuing

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with Moses, and today's the big
miracle, that's right, and I'm super

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excited about it. We're going to
be reading out of Exodus chapter fourteen.

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But Desiree gave us a very interesting
segment today to deal with. And this

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is something I've never contemplated before,
No, never, right ever, So

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she I liked new thoughts. If
Moses had to host a podcast discussing the

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logistics of parting the Red Sea,
who would his guest speakers be, Which

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is a crazy thought. Yeah,
I think that's a good idea. So,

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you know, it's very clever.
It sounds like a skit. It

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turns out we happened to be,
you know, podcast hosts. Yes,

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So I thought that was clever.
And we're reading about Moses going to the

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Red Sea, and there had to
been a lot of logistics. We're moving

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a couple million people. And I
love the fact that you asked AI for

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this. So I sat down and
asked chat gpt it. I said,

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if Moses hosted a podcast discussing logistics
parting the Red Sea, who might he

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invite to be his guests? Which, by the way, the answers are

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so scary. It's scary that a
computer can just spit this back out one.

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So I asked it for funny answers. Yes, right, so on

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purpose, and so it said the
first one was the Egyptian Army swimming instructor,

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which is great, which is great, right to discuss what went wrong

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with their aquatic training program after this
event was over. So I thought that

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was funny. Well, sir,
can you explain why everybody to arownd?

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That's a funny one. This was
funny. I didn't expect this one might

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also have a guest host who was
a stand up comedian to add some humor

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about what it must have been like
to see walls of water and think,

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well, this day just got weird, right, Yeah, And I'm sure

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you can just go off on that. I can picture a comedian, oh

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man, yeah, yeah, yeah, water going. Pharaoh's boat rental guy

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would be another one that. Yeah, to discuss the sudden surge and boat

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rental requests right after the sea part. That's great. Yeah, I'm just

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standing there and suddenly everybody wanted to
rint my boats. Yep. A weather

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forecaster to explain how they totally missed
predicting a sudden sea split in the forecast.

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Oh, there's that a fish.
You could interview a fish to give

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the underwater perspective, especially the confusion
about why their home suddenly had a no

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water zone. So there's that,
Well there's fish. Can't talk. Chet

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GPT doesn't know everything. Well,
I'm pretty sure you're the guy who talks

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about Disney all the time. And
Nemo talked he did, yeh, he

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talked to other fish. Jeff Well
Alls, I'm saying I didn't talk to

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the desk. I don't know,
I don't know. Remember, yeah,

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I remember the bird was yelling and
then when it went to the p humans

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it was a rock. Yeah.
Well, Moses also talked to God in

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a bush. Bush just don't talk
either. That's true, right, it's

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true. And then a hydraulic engineer
to sarcastically take credit for designing the world's

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first and only natural watergates. So
there you go. That's it. I

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thought those were very, very useful. They could be interesting, and we

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could probably get some very dynamic conversation
out of swimming instructors in Pharaoh's boat rental.

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Guess. So here's the thought.
I wonder if there'll be a podcast

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in heaven. We get up there
and they were like, hey, where's

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everybody at? And we walk over
and they're like, oh, they're all

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over on the east wing, and
we go to the east wing and it

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turns out they're all just right.
Yeah, todays is Moses is a big

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day, just listening to the big
podcast. And I say, well,

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and then then we say, oh, my gosh, it took you thirty

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five hundred years to have a podcast. And then they say, what are

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you talking about. We just got
here yesterday, but I'm pumped. There

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you go, okay, that's rough, Chris, come on, very rough,

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Come on, very very rough.
I think we're going to leave the

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humor to chat GBT. Now,
just tell me something funny. Our Bible

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people appreciated that that was a funny
one. Okay, good, okay,

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So there you go. I think
that was interesting. Thank you, thank

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you, thank you, thank you, Dez that we we would have never

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thought of those people. Matter of
fact, I would have thought, like,

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you know, Aaron and Joshua and
you know, just kind of nerdy

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stuff. But these were way better. Yeah, for sure, that's really

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funny. Okay. So then today
we are picking up where the God has

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sent the plugs upon Egypt. The
pharaoh finally says just get out, just

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go, right, and then he
continues to change his mind, and then

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and then he lets them go because
we're we're not going to read that's correct,

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letting go part. That's correct.
I just said. He lets him

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go and says, just go.
You said that. I just said it,

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And am I boring you to death? I'm talking and you're like,

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yeah, yeah, I hope he
was making noise so I can say something,

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lady and gentlemen, pharaohsboth changed his
mind in case he hadn't picked it

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up. Apparently Pharaoh's going to let
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we're not going to read that part, I think, Chris. Let us

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know. Okay, okay, here
we go verse five, first five.

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When we're reached the King of Egypt
that the Israelites had fled, Pharaoh and

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his officials changed their minds. What
have we done letting all those Israelites slaves

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get away? They asked. So
Pharaoh harnessed his chariot and called up his

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troops. He took with him six
hundred of Egypt's best chariots, along with

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the rest of the chariots of Egypt, each with its commander. The Lord

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hardened the heart of the Pharaoh,
the King of Egypt, so he chased

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after the people of Israel, who
had left with fists raised in defiance.

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The Egyptians chased after them with all
the forces in Pharaoh's army, all his

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horses and chariots, and his charioteers
and his troops. The Egyptians caught up

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with the people of Israel as they
were camped beside the shore near Pi hai

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h How do you say that pi
Hahirath across from bell Zafan bail zephon.

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Yeah, I got that one,
okay. As Pharaoh approached, the people

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of Israel looked up and panicked when
they saw the Egyptians overtaking them, and

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they cried out to the Lord.
And they said to Moses, why did

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you bring us out here to die
in the wilderness. Weren't there enough graves

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for us in Egypt? What have
you done to us? Why did you

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make us leave Egypt? Didn't we
tell you this what happened while we were

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still in Egypt. We said,
leave us alone, let us be slaves

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to the Egyptians. It's better to
be a slave in Egypt than a corpse

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in the wilderness. But Moses told
the people, don't be afraid. Just

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stand still and watch the Lord rescue
you today. The Egyptians you see today

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will never be seen again. The
Lord himself will fight for you. Just

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stay calm. Then the Lord said
to Moses, why are you crying out

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to me? Tell the people to
get moving. Pick up your staff and

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raise your hand over the sea.
Divide the water so the Israelites can walk

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through the middle of the sea on
dry ground. And I will harden the

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hearts of the Egyptians, and they
will charge in after the Israelites. My

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great glory will be displayed through Pharaoh
and his troops, his chariots, and

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his charioteers. When my glory is
displayed through them, all egypt will see

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my glory and know that I am
the Lord. Then the Angel of God,

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who had been leading the people of
Israel, moved to the rear of

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the camp. The pillar of Cloud
also moved from the front and stood behind

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them. The cloud settled between the
Egyptian and Israelite camps. As darkness fell,

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the cloud turned a fire, lighting
up the night, but the Egyptians

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and Israelites did not approach each other
all night. Then Moses raised his hand

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over the sea, and the Lord
opened up a path through the water with

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a strong east wind. The wind
blew all that night, turning the sea

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bed into dry land. So the
people of Israel walked through the middle of

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the sea on dry ground with walls
of water on each side. Then the

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Egyptians, all of Pharaoh's horses,
chariots, and charioteers, chased them into

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the middle of the sea. But
just before dawn, the Lord looked down

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on the Egyptian army from the pillar
of fire and cloud, and he threw

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their forces into total confusion. He
twisted their chariot wheels, making the chariots

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difficult to drive. Let's get out
of here, away from the Israelites.

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The Egyptians shouted, The Lord is
fighting for them against Egypt. When all

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the Israelites had reached the other side, the Lord said to Moses, raised

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your hand over the sea again,
and then the waters will rush back and

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cover the Egyptians and their chariots and
charioteers. So as the sun began to

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rise, Moses raised his hand over
the sea, and the water rushed back

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into its usual place. The Egyptians
tried to escape, but the Lord swept

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them into the sea. Then the
waters returned and covered all the chariots and

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charioteers, the entire army of Pharaoh. Of all the Egyptians who had chased

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the Israelites into the sea, not
a single one survived. But the people

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of Israel had walked through the middle
of the sea on dry ground as the

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water stood up like a wall on
both sides. That is how the Lord

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rescued Israel from the hand of the
Egyptians that day, and the Israelites saw

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the bodies of the Egyptians washed up
on the sea shore. When the people

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of Israel saw the mighty power that
the Lord had unleashed against the Egyptians,

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they were filled with awe before him. They put their faith in the Lord

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and in his servant Moses. There
you go. So they all drowned,

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all of them. Yeah, so
six hundred chariots the rest of the army,

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and then it said, and then
all the other chariots of Egypt.

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So there weren't just six hundred,
there were plenty, right, And it's

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just amazing to me. How you
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is a small number of chariots,
well, compared to a million people.

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I started thinking about the army force. But then I started, as you

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were reading that, actually my brain
started going to like these war movies in

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my mind, and I started thinking, like, how many people can one

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chariot take down? Right? So, if you're in a chariot and you're

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just going up against defenseless people who
are unarmed, I imagine a chariot can

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take down quite a few people.
Oh yeah, you know, especially you

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just drive by with a sword in
Kabam, Right, Well, some of

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those chariots in those ancient days,
they would hook up essentially what would be

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like big swords sticking out from the
wheel hubs. Yeah, and they would

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just go through and just mow people
down. Yeah, it's pretty rough.

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So I don't know if the Egyptians
did that, but I know that some

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of the ancient fighters would. Yeah. So yeah, So it's just an

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unbelievable thing to think. Several things. Actually, one thing that stands out

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to me is the comment that says
dry ground. You know, so the

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water parts and what this soil that
had been under that water for how many

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years? Now? Right, you
know, since it's creation, probably all

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of a sudden becomes dry. So
the Bible doesn't give us details by accident,

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so you know, otherwise they'd be
walking in mud. Have you ever

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walked in mud so deep that when
you're I've actually had it to where I

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know you have where I actually stepped
in mud so deep to where I couldn't

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pull my leg up. And then
when I finally used enough strength to pull

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my leg up, my shoes stuck, and then I pulled up my sock,

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and then all of a sudden,
the mud closes and my shoes buried

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like it is gone. Oh,
it's like a foot and a half deep

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right inside the mud. And so
I mean you would imagine that's what the

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ground would be like. So how
could a million people walk through in just

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less than a day? Right,
And the answer is it has to be

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completely dry. So that's pretty amazing. Well. I only know of one

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partial miracle in the Bible, and
that was when Jesus healed that guy his

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blind blindness and the guy goes,
well, I see people walk around like

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trees and Jesus heals him again.
Remember that part, Yeah, like they

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were like the blind God he saw
like like images like like blurry. Yeah,

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he was kind of saying, hey, things are still blurry. And

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Jesus finished that miracle. Other than
that, all the other miracles and I

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think Jesus was doing a thing there
right that he did Yeh, he didn't

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mess up. All the rest of
the miracles are complete and total. They're

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always complete. It's not just like
a partial because it would have been impressive

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just standing the water up right,
right, But God does a complete miracle.

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And every once in a while somebody
will tell me about how, you

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know, some faith healer healed them, and hey, things are better.

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It doesn't hurt nearly as bad as
it used to. I'm like, well,

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the miracles in the Bible are it
wouldn't hurt at all, right if

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that was real. So how much
of this cycles semantic versus you know,

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the real deal? But you always
see total miracles. So here you go.

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You've got these guys, man,
and they're running in typical fashion.

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Here's the theme for almost all the
rest of Moses's leadership. They get out,

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Yay, we're free. They literally
they're leaving Egypt with their fists in

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the air in defiance. Right.
And then they get to the water and

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say, you did this to us, right, right? It's Moses is

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the best, Moses is the worst. Moses is the best, Moses is

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the worst. Right, And this
is for the next forty years of Moses

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is the worst. Yeah, and
he's thinking, I sign up for this.

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Yeah, these clowns. Yeah.
So another thing that we skipped over

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that whenever I talk about this passage
or teach this passage, I camp on

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the fact that I love God's instructions
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and they were heading, you know, their way. But even before they

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saw them. If you back up
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and said, Okay, here's the
plan. Okay, I want you to

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take the people. I want you
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the edge of the sea between those
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and I want you to stay there. And the Israelites will think that you're

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trapped Egypt excuse me, the Egyptians
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nowhere to go. He' say okay, ready break, and that was it.

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So the instructions that God gave Moses
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was up to. So that's why
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because you know, clearly God knows
what he's doing. Clearly God spoke,

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and God gave very specific instructions,
and yet the instructions were horrible. He

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says, hey, I got an
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yourself up against the water to where
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break, you know, And that
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like, and then I'm going to
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do that. And so that's why
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see that you know the chariots coming. They're absolutely convinced that they're going to

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die. Why because they spent the
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can do with chariots, right,
and they've seen what it means to defy

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them, and so now that their
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absolutely convinced they're going to die,
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great, Moses, now you've done
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wait a minute, these are instructions
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walking in faith. He didn't tell
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told us the first step. And
there's a sermon in there that talks about

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you know, I mean that we
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not give you the entire solution,
but he may ask us to step out

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in faith. And that's really what
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with it. It wouldn't take faith
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happen. And so it's a lesson
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I'm just going to do the next
the next thing. How many times have

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you had somebody say I just wish
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geez. Every moment of my ministry, I bet you most of our listeners

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have had a moment in their life
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be stronger if God would give them
a sign. Yes. So the people

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of Israel saw God, you know, turn water into blood. Yeah,

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So wouldn't that be enough of a
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God's always got me, right,
But then there's boils and hail and frogs,

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frogs right, and lice and darkness, darkness literally the sun, God

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was de neutered in that minute,
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God, give me a sign.
And I'm gonna say, I'm just gonna

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call bs on that one. If
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wouldn't have very much more faith than
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including the killing of Pharaoh son and
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And then they pillage Egypt without having
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Egyptians gave them gold and silver.
Their pockets are full full of gold and

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silver and jewelry and all that kind
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of the sea and then they turn
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Moses, we told you not to
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They're like, we told you not
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let us be slaves in Egypt.
Right, It's better to die in Egypt

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a slave than it has to come
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a corpse in the wilderness. And
Moses is looking at going, Okay,

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God gave you ten signs eleven if
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full, and then the people still
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other things, but he can't solve
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just gonna say Christians say that all
the time. People claim that I don't

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think there's a lot of intellectual integrity
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we know historically millions of Israelites they
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few weeks enough signs to rock my
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the edge of the sea, going, well, we're dying now. God

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delivered all the way to this point, but I guess this is where we

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die. Yeah, But you know, it's it's also a funny thing when

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you're confronted with actual death. You
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to act in that moment. Sure, I think I told you a story

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where I always hoped that would be
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you know, But then this thing
happens, and I don't to find out

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I wasn't, you know, in
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gee whiz, like I'm sort of
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this thing happened. It was really
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side of the road, you know, and uh, and it was only

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a split second, but still I
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like to think I'd be the guy
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there is that, you know where
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wouldn't you think yesterday God killed all
of the all of the firstborn people of

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Egypt, and we're walking out with
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This is literally yesterday. And now
they're saying that I'm just saying,

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we are so fickle in our in
our faith, our faith, ebbs and

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flows yesterday it is. That's exactly
what happens. So then Moses, Moses

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does it. By the way,
here's for those of you their leaders.

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Here's a great thing. Moses didn't
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At this point. He had no
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The people are freaking out, and
Moses says, don't be afraid, right

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right, calm down, just stand
still. What else are they going to

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do? Right? They're surrounded,
right, so just stand still and watch

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the Lord rescue you today, and
the Lord himself will fight for you.

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Just stay calm. Moses, first
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to calm the people down right.
People can't make good decisions when they're panicking.

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They want to run, they want
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I've told this before, but lions
a lot of time, their roar is

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designed to scare and spook the gazelles
and just get the gazelles to run away

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from the herd. And then it
gets way easier to catch one than it

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is to try to get them.
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just he says, stay calm,
stay where you are. God's gonna fight

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for you. Well, one of
the reasons why he knew God was going

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to fight for them is because there
was no other option. And he'd already

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seen God fight for them eleven eleven
times here, and so there was no

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other option. Just calm down.
And that's that's I think, great leadership,

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good shepherds. Calm down the sheep, because the sheep want to run,

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they want to panic on this kind
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then I think this is funny.
The very next so he says, calm

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down, don't be afraid. God's
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verse, the Lord tells Moses,
why are you crying to me? So

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inside Moses is freaking out right.
On the outside, Moses is like,

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calm down, God's going to fight
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God goes, dude, why are
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what are we doing? What are
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King David tells his fighters, his
soldiers all think that they're going to

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die. Remember, they're going to
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turns around and he says, no, no, he's talking to the mighty

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men. These are the leaders of
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of the mighty man, it's time
for you to play the man, right,

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because the rest of our armies are
watching us, right right. Sometimes

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you just have to step up and
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you're just trembling on the inside.
And I think there's there's something about that

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here where he just stepped up and
he said, God's going to have to

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take care of us. We have
no other options. But on the inside

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he's just a mess. And God
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you crying out to me? And
then raise that staff. Remember he's already

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used that rod, right, he's
already used that staff. He's already done

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miracles with it. And so God
decided to use the thing that was in

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Moses's hand to deliver the people.
So I'm the movie and TV guy,

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and so I'm gonna go full Nerd
on you. There's a famous meme,

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maybe you've seen it going around.
It's a Star Trek meme where this captain,

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this white haired captain comes over and
bulldozes everybody in the enterprise and uh,

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and then Captain Riker, Jonathan Riker, not captain but Commander Recker says

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to Deanna Troy, and she's a
baitazoy. She she senses emotions and those

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are people thinking. And he goes, well, I will say this,

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he sure is confident, and and
she knows the inside of him, and

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she goes, actually, he's not
at all. And so then it cuts

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there right right, and so and
this thing goes I've seen it one hundred

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times and and and it's interesting,
how you know, here's this goofy little

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nerdy show and uh, and it's
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because it resonates with every every scenario, doesn't it. Whereas as a

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leader of your family, you you
play the man. You know, you

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be strong for somebody and on the
inside you're like a sure hope. So,

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which, by the way, is
exactly why it's so meaningful to me

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when John the Baptist sent that message
to Jesus and says, are just tell

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me, just just just tell me, so I can hear from your own

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words. Are you the one that
she commor should we look for another?

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Right? Because his entire life,
he's the one that says he's the one

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that he says messages, Jesus goes, are you the ones? So they're

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about to come my head off just
right. We're not fooling around with this,

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right, this is legit. Yes, yeah. And then another thing

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I was going to tell you is
I was going to bring this up.

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Wow, it's almost time to go. But you're familiar with Ron Wyatt's in

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Israel, all his diggings in Israel. There's a guy famous in fifty sixty

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seventies where he's so famous in that
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real, this is real, this
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people that says, oh, he
falsified evidence, because there's no way he

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one person found so many irrefutable things. But then there's another group of people

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that says, no, no,
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nobody had looked as hard as run
Wyatt, right, and so you know,

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people financed his expeditions and he went
and just decided to dedicate and and

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so anyway, so whether you believe
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a very particular thing that he claims
that he knows exactly where the people cross

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the Red Sea, and there was
like a waddie and it would have been

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like a you know, like a
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and so imagine that a million people
going through this tiny, little winding trail

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with mountains on every side. In
other words, there's no way out,

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right, there's only one way in, one way out, and it ends

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up on this beachhead with mountain ranges
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a million people. And then if
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if you do a what do you
call those things where they measure the sona

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sonar. Yeah, underneath it looks
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true. It looks as if it's
super deep. And then it comes up

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and there's like a man, there's
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bridge, like a land bridge,
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side. And what he says,
Ron Wyatt says he found he found a

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stone pillar on one side that said, uh, this this commemorates the the

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crossing. But it wasn't but it
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that right, and so he says, this has to be where they crossed,

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based on the sonar, based on
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these different kinds of things. And
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that there's coral that if you if
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be construed as the gold, the
gold around the chariot's wheels. Uh,

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that the coral had grown around and
there's several things that are perfectly round,

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and he says, he says that
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That's why it didn't disintegrate. So
it's pretty interesting. Wow, and and

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so and it's and it's like,
wow, well, whether whether or not,

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uh, you know, whether or
not that's exactly the place that they

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crossed. The thing that made me
fascinated was that God would have created the

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Red Sea with this land bridge,
knowing that one day this would happen,

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right, knowing that this would be
the moment where you know, it was

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just fascinates or he created it right
then? Oh yeah, that's right.

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He could have created it right then, who knows, Right, that's kind

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of neat. So it's neat,
but hey, anyway you look at it,

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God delivers the people of Israel and
from this point on Egypt leaves them

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alone. Yep, that's right.
And that's how God does. God does

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complete miracles. He always completely resolves
a thing. Well, that's our time,

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so we will pick up next time. We'll see then on the Bible, guys,