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Welcome to the Rooted Podcast. I'm Luke and we believe here at Rooted that you

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can see lasting life change for your good and for God's glory. Today we're going to continue our discussion about what does it mean to live in the light,

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to step out of darkness, and to step into the light. And today we're going to talk

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about that place where we start. I talked a little bit about last time about the narrative

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of Scripture, the fall of humanity in Adam and Eve, and how we all tend to hide. We all

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tend to minimize and hide. And today we're going to be kind of digging into and talking

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about, well, if we're not living in the light, where are we? And we're in denial. We're in

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that place, in that state of denying what is going on around us, or going on in our

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life, or denying what we need to address and to talk about openly.

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If you're familiar with like the 12 steps, this is part of that very first step, stepping

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out of denial, admitting that there is a problem, admitting that there is something going on,

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that we don't have it all together.

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So the way I define denial is this way, is that denial is a willful blindness

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and avoidance of realities that we don't want to face.

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I'll say that again. Denial is a willful blindness and avoidance of realities

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that we do not want to face.

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I think that this is really important for us to understand exactly what's going on.

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And it is this kind of, I get the picture of, you know, someone plugging their ears

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or someone covering their eyes in order to say, ah, I can't see the problem, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

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And that's the place we find ourselves at if we're living in a place of denial,

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of saying, I don't have a problem with this particular, I don't have a problem with alcohol.

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I don't have a problem with pornography. I could stop whenever I wanted to.

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I don't have relationship problems, other people are just not as good,

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it's not my fault that my relationships never work out.

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I don't have hurts or things that I need to address, there's just things that I'm never gonna talk about.

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We're living in denial, we're in a place where we're saying,

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nope, I've got it all together, I don't need to address this.

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And it's a place where, left unchecked, we can get ourselves into some serious trouble.

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I think about this, when I think about denial, I think of one of my favorite books and movies,

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The Lord of the Rings.

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If you're familiar with The Lord of the Rings, in particular the last movie, the last book,

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The Return of the King.

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And if you're not familiar, a summary of the important piece of the story for this particular

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illustration, is that there's a kingdom and the reign of the king has been long lost. The true

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heirs left the kingdom and have left the king to be taken care of a family of stewards. They're not

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the kingly family, they're the stewards. They're the ones who are supposed to be taking care of

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the kingdom. And under the watch of the steward, the current steward, the one who is in the role

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of the king, but is not in the lineage of the king. In the middle of his stewarding, of taking

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care of the kingdom, overseeing the kingdom, evil has come, and it's been coming slowly,

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and it's been coming for a long time. The kingdom is sitting right outside of the dark place,

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outside of Mordor, where the dark lord lives, and he's been getting reports, he's been getting

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notified and told that evil's coming, the Dark Lord is building his armies. And his.

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Chosen action has been to be blind to what's going on. He's ignored the coming forces.

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He's ignored the warnings of his sons. And he's been willfully blind. He's been in denial.

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Particularly in the movie, up until his hand is kind of forced. Our protagonists, our heroes are

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encountering him, and he's just like, no, there's no problem, go away. Our gates, our city will hold,

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we have no need to fear. He ultimately just continues to go down a path of self-destruction

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and destruction of his sons and of himself

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because he refuses to take off the blinders,

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to step out of denial.

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And that is similarly where we find ourselves. It's a place of willful blindness.

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It's a place where we choose to ignore something.

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And the funny thing about us, about humans, is that if we choose to ignore something long enough,

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Pretty soon we forget that it's there, right?

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Know, maybe there's that.

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Let's take a more innocuous topic or thing, maybe there's something on your to-do list

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that you just don't want to do, and you're just like, ugh, I'm just not going to think about that today.

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Well, you say that to yourself enough times, you're eventually going to forget about the

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thing you're trying to not think about.

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You'll get really good about not thinking about it, and then the due date for that thing

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on your to-do list will come, and you're like, oh, I actually really forgot about it.

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And that might be something serious, it might be something not all that serious, but you

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know what I'm talking about, we've all done that before.

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And so we need to recognize and come to terms with ourself and kind of wake ourselves up

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out of this sleepy state of denial, of denying that we have a problem, of denying that we need help.

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And so here are a few kind of, you know, I want to take the rest of our time, and I want

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us to kind of do some self-reflection, do some diagnostics with ourselves and think

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through, are there places in which I might be in denial?

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And here are a handful of the behaviors. I don't think this is maybe, um.

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You know, all-encompassing. This isn't all the things that we might do in denial, but this is some of the big things, so.

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One of the big behaviors of denial is that we minimize things.

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So, by that I might mean that we, um, we might compare ourselves to other people to make ourselves look better.

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Right? Oh, look at that person. I'm not that person. I've got it more together than they do, so I must not have a problem. Right?

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We might point to the positive things in our life, right? Nothing's black and white, right?

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Nothing's all negative and nothing's all good, but we might try and minimize or avoid

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the serious things that we need to talk about

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by just kind of focusing and highlighting the good parts in our life

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and kind of avoiding the other half of the picture.

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Or we might keep track, or we might not keep track or keep things foggy so that we can't see

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how big the issue is, right?

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We might kind of just keep things kind of hazy, not really think about it, right?

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This is an easy one to talk about when it comes to perhaps alcohol abuse, right?

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Well, how many drinks did I have? Ah, just a few, I don't really know.

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How much have I been drinking? How often do I drink?

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Oh, just really, you know, maybe once, twice a week, something like that, right?

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And by not ever trying to get down to the specifics, we keep it in this kind of foggy haze

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where we can kind of continue to think, ah, it's not that big a deal, right?

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Maybe for an issue like pornography, you know, ah, it's a thing I do every once in a while.

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Well, how much is every once in a while?

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How often is that?

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Not just, let's be specific about that. You know, maybe we kind of just keep things in a bit of a fog, right?

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If we're dealing with things about like healing from trauma or hurt, we often kind of can

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build these, where I call them no-go zones, I'll call them no-go zones, places where we

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kind of won't want to go to, don't want to talk about.

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Person that we don't talk about, person we don't think about, person we don't talk to.

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Topics we avoid, places we don't go, right?

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Or maybe we just kind of, maybe there's some hurt or there's some things that need to change,

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but every time we think about, I really, really need to build some more healthy relationships.

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I really need to make a change. I really need to make this difficult decision.

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I'm just going to kind of minimize that by...

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Numbing myself out. I'm gonna hop on social media. I'm going to Watch more YouTube. I'm going to go out and buy some things

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I'm gonna go do something to make myself feel good so that the problem feels smaller,

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we can minimize minimizing is a is a,

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Broad thing that we do in denial. The next thing that we often do when we're in denial is we rationalize things,

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I Once heard a preacher. I don't remember who but it's stuck with me and he's talking about,

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Rationalizing is just telling rational lies to yourself. Did you catch that?

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Rationalizing something to yourself is telling rational untruths,

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rational lies to yourself And so we might say that we're stressed out that this is just a season,

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Right just tell ourselves like I don't have a problem. This isn't an issue This is this will go away if I just ignore it long enough,

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We might pat ourselves on the back and say you know what I deserve a break. I deserve a reward this,

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You know I give myself a break right like this isn't a big problem, right?

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And we're continually playing ourselves as the victim and In saying that like the place that we're stuck in is totally fine

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Yeah, we might just say that this is normal, right?

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I don't have a problem, this is just normal. And the thing is, it may have become normal for you,

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but that doesn't mean that it's healthy for you.

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And then the last thing is simply self-deception. Self-deception is when we begin to believe our own minimizing and rationalizing.

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This is when we've been in denial for a long time.

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It's when we really, really start to believe our own press. We start to say, you know what, this isn't my problem, everyone else around me is the

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one who's wrong.

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We become impervious to feedback, we become impervious to loved ones, people who care

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deeply about us, speaking truth into our lives.

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And it might not always feel that way, but often, when we're in denial, one of the reasons

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that we're in denial is because we have a pride issue.

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Because we don't want to admit that things are not going well.

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We want to say, you know what, no, just leave me alone, I can fix it on my own.

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Just let me hold on to it. I know myself, that's my own tendency.

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If there's a problem or a thing that I need to take care of, rather than asking or seeking

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for help, I would much rather just say, go away, nobody see how I'm weak and vulnerable,

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I just want to take care of it myself. And when I isolate myself like that, when I live

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in denial that I don't need help, it doesn't get any better on its own. And I begin to

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deceive myself with my own pride, that I can fix this, I can do this all by myself. The

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is that I can't. And we weren't made to. God meant us to live in community. We cannot fix our own problems.

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That's what Christ is for. So I have a few questions that I'm just

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going to kind of end our podcast with,

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or time together this discussion.

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And sit with these. Maybe pull out a pen, pause this, pull out a pen,

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or pull out your phone, and take these down.

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Sit with these, and ask these questions of yourself. And these questions will kind of lead you

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down a path of considering, perhaps, where are you in denial?

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Where have you not been addressing and living in the light?

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Where do you need to begin to take some ownership of where things actually are at?

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So the first question I have is, are you keeping secrets? Are there things that you're just actively

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not telling people about?

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That if people knew about, they would be shocked, right?

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Are you keeping secrets? Not are you, you know, I don't mean that

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does everybody know everything about you,

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but do the closest people to you, would they think that you're keeping secrets

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if they were to find some things out?

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Are there off-limits, second question is, are there off-limits topics,

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off-limit places, events, or people?

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Now I wanna be gentle with this one, like I don't mean that we need to necessarily

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always be diving into the places where we don't wanna go, where there's some hurt,

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or there's some trauma, or there's a brokenness,

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But are we, you know, avoiding relationships, right?

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Is there a friend that we can't talk to anymore for some reason?

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Maybe that's something we need to deal with. Maybe we have family members who we wish we had better relationships with,

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but we don't because there's some hurts, there's some things that need to be addressed there.

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Are there just off-limit topics, like we can talk about anything

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except for the places where I'm not doing very well?

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We can talk about anything except for how much I go to the casino, or how much I drink,

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or how much time I spend on the computer late at night. Are there off-limit topics, places, events, or people?

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Are you isolating yourself? That's the third question I have.

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Are you removing yourself from community? Are you isolating yourself?

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Or are you reaching out to community? Fourth question is, do you feel like you're hiding yourself?

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Do you feel like you're wearing a mask? Do you feel like you're not being truthful to yourself

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and to other people around you?

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And my final question, the fifth question here is, have others approached you

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about something you didn't want to hear?

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This is a big warning sign. This is big flag. If someone is coming up to you,

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particularly if multiple people have said, Hey, you okay?

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Hey, I noticed this thing that maybe you're doing.

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You say, what's going on here? And I know because I've been there.

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I know because I've seen people been there.

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That is a hard place when someone comes up to you and they say, hey, I'm concerned about you.

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What's going on here?

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Are you okay? And what do we do? We minimize.

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We start verbalizing all the things we've been doing to ourself.

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And we say it to them, but usually harsher to the person who's actually just concerned for us,

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who want the best for us.

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Those are the type of people we want to keep around us, to be honest, the type of people

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who are willing to say kind—or not kind words, but hard words in a kind manner, because

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they want the best for us.

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I don't remember the exact quote, so forgive me, but I believe it's a proverb in the Bible

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that says that harsh are the words—I won't even approach saying it.

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The essential point of it is, is that beware of the enemy who speaks soft and kind words to you.

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Pay more attention to the friend who is willing to speak harsh and hard words to you.

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A good friend, someone who actually cares about your well-being, will occasionally challenge

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you and point out the red flags.

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And when they do that, are we going to isolate, are we going to minimize, or are we going

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to take a moment to say, yes, please help me.

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Yes, I don't know what to do.

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I think I might have a problem. I think this is an area where I need healing.

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Can we take a risk and step into the light?

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It's an invitation for that. So I'll leave that with you for this time.

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Thank you for joining in this conversation.

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