1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:06,040 Welcome to the Energetic Radio podcast. This episode is brought to you by the 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,720 SchoolOfPlay, co hosted by Dale Sidebottom and Paul 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,440 Campbell. Each week we'll bring to you tips, strategies and ideas on 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,760 how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life and those you share 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,560 it with. All right, everyone, welcome back to the podcast 6 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,360 Energetic radio, episode number 364. My name is Dale 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,000 Solbottom, joined by the one and only Pistol, Paul Campbell. Oh, 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,040 Pistol Paul Campbell. That's a new one. I like it. I thought I'd just throw 9 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,780 that in. Someone once said that 10 00:00:34,780 --> 00:00:38,540 I look like Paul Rifle. That's not. Sorry, it's not a 11 00:00:38,540 --> 00:00:42,260 compliment. I don't think Paul listens. No, I 12 00:00:42,260 --> 00:00:45,980 don't think Paul listens. When he was a cricketer or an. Umpire, I think, well, 13 00:00:45,980 --> 00:00:49,820 who knows? Probably my gray hair, probably bloody umpire. But he's 14 00:00:49,820 --> 00:00:53,220 someone. Once, not that long ago, Tim was like, you remind me of poor Rifle. 15 00:00:53,220 --> 00:00:56,940 I'm talking, like, within the last 12 months, someone said this to me. And then 16 00:00:56,940 --> 00:01:00,580 you've just come with Pistol. Pistol might stick now, actually. 17 00:01:00,580 --> 00:01:03,810 Don't mind it. Hey, load them up. 18 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,520 How are you? Great, man, I'm awesome, thanks, mate. I'm actually really good. Good, yeah. 19 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,040 I've actually come in and I'm up and about, to be honest with you. Good. 20 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Well, you just. You have just come from doing a workshop. I have, I have. 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,760 And anyone that. Well, I suppose probably a lot of people probably haven't. And I 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,280 know public speaking for a lot of people is daunting, but it's also 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,120 very addictive. Like, a lot of times we'll rock up, you know, if we're speaking 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,500 week on, week out, and you're pretty flat in the morning, but after 25 00:01:31,660 --> 00:01:34,780 half an hour, bang, you're on. Oh, I couldn't agree more. You just feel great. 26 00:01:34,780 --> 00:01:37,780 And you generally can't wait to get in the car and give you, like, I 27 00:01:37,780 --> 00:01:40,020 give you a call, you give me a call. Like yesterday, you did one by 28 00:01:40,020 --> 00:01:42,740 yourself and you called me. How'd it go? Yeah. And you're like, oh, man. Really? 29 00:01:42,740 --> 00:01:44,860 Only took me a while to get them. And same today, as soon as I 30 00:01:44,860 --> 00:01:46,859 got in the car, gave you a call. How'd it go, mate? This went well. 31 00:01:46,859 --> 00:01:50,660 This went well. This was awesome. You're right. It's definitely the 32 00:01:50,660 --> 00:01:53,900 energy you give out. You definitely get it back in spades, don't you? 33 00:01:54,780 --> 00:01:58,580 I actually had that written down today. It's like. Like, just. I don't 34 00:01:58,580 --> 00:02:02,060 know. I'm up and about. Right. I'm bloody 35 00:02:02,060 --> 00:02:05,780 excited which is good because our bloody podcast is called Energetic Radio. 36 00:02:05,780 --> 00:02:09,380 But I was driving home, I had a smile on my face. I was up 37 00:02:09,380 --> 00:02:12,220 and about just because everything landed so well. And just the. 38 00:02:13,340 --> 00:02:16,140 The comments that you get back from the group, like the, you know, I mean, 39 00:02:16,140 --> 00:02:19,620 and I had one. Had one comment that really stuck in today. And I said, 40 00:02:19,620 --> 00:02:22,780 you know, name a feeling you experienced today. Now we finish off that way. Yeah. 41 00:02:23,020 --> 00:02:26,700 And she. She stuck. She was like, bittersweet. I was like, oh, 42 00:02:27,420 --> 00:02:31,260 never had that before. Like a warhead. Oh, jeepers Christ. 43 00:02:32,140 --> 00:02:35,980 Starts off sour, finishes. Yeah. She was like, bittersweet. And I was like, the a. 44 00:02:35,980 --> 00:02:39,780 I've never heard that elaborate. And she just went. She goes, listen, we had such 45 00:02:39,780 --> 00:02:43,500 a good time today. And, you know, you've really brought to everyone's attention and just 46 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:47,260 brought us back into the moment and just to really soak up the next 47 00:02:47,260 --> 00:02:50,100 14 weeks we've got left together. It was a year 12 48 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:53,630 workshops, and she was just like. And I'm just sitting here 49 00:02:53,630 --> 00:02:57,430 watching the laughter and the smiles and the connection and everyone 50 00:02:57,430 --> 00:03:00,950 hugging and. This from year 12. This from year 12. Wow. God, they're 51 00:03:00,950 --> 00:03:04,510 aware. They're so aware. It was such a beautiful comment. And she's like. And I'm 52 00:03:04,510 --> 00:03:07,470 just sitting here watching it all, and I'm just like, this is a bittersweet moment. 53 00:03:08,110 --> 00:03:10,950 You know, I tell the students to stop and smell the roses, right? And she 54 00:03:10,950 --> 00:03:14,550 was like, I'm just stopping. I'm just stopping right now. I'm soaking it all 55 00:03:14,550 --> 00:03:18,360 in. And for me, it's bittersweet. I love this moment, but I know 56 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,720 it's going to come to an end. And. Yeah. And the whole year she was 57 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,400 like, thank you. But, yeah, I was just reflecting that, going, man, that's sick. It's 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,000 pretty cool when you have that impact on. Yeah. You create a space that 59 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,280 gets a response like that. That's bittersweet. Yeah. 60 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,240 And so, yeah, I'm up and about. And then I was thinking all those things, 61 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,880 like when you're. When you do something kind for someone or you just have a 62 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,480 positive impact or something like that, you bloody feel good. Of course you do. 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,840 You feel so good. And I think it's one of the best feelings in the 64 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,180 world when. When the. When the good feeling comes, doing that for other people. 65 00:03:50,740 --> 00:03:53,900 But, yeah, anyway, mate, I've hijacked the start. You're going to intro it, talking about 66 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:57,580 how I'm feeling. But no, I'm up and about and I'm in a really good 67 00:03:57,580 --> 00:04:00,980 mood. I love that, too. And, like, Yesterday I did a corporate one at Peter 68 00:04:00,980 --> 00:04:04,540 McCallum, the founder the Cancer foundation, which is one of the most 69 00:04:04,540 --> 00:04:08,340 incredible buildings they've gone to. And the 70 00:04:08,340 --> 00:04:11,980 corporates that I did it for, I don't think they've done sort of much 71 00:04:11,980 --> 00:04:15,700 of. I wouldn't call it team building, but sort of the connection and getting 72 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:19,109 around each other and it was exactly the same. Like, there's a lot of hard 73 00:04:19,109 --> 00:04:22,229 work I felt at the start to get them. Yeah. But then the last 20 74 00:04:22,229 --> 00:04:25,709 minutes, once I had them, the room was just crazy. You're like, 75 00:04:25,709 --> 00:04:29,109 wow. And they didn't. They didn't realize they needed it. No one realized what they 76 00:04:29,109 --> 00:04:32,629 needed to have it. I suppose. Yeah. So, yeah, it was really nice, I suppose, 77 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:35,469 when you're just talking about kindness. I've had a really nice day too, because 78 00:04:36,429 --> 00:04:39,869 a couple of days ago, two big pallets of books arrived 79 00:04:39,949 --> 00:04:43,469 at my place, so we had to pack them away. And 80 00:04:43,469 --> 00:04:47,290 it's one of the most gratifying experiences when you can reach out to 81 00:04:47,290 --> 00:04:50,970 people that have helped you become probably 82 00:04:50,970 --> 00:04:54,610 the person you are or given you opportunities when people didn't have to. So I 83 00:04:54,610 --> 00:04:58,210 feel, you know, I think our business is where it is now because there have 84 00:04:58,210 --> 00:05:02,050 been a lot of people along the way that have shown kindness and support 85 00:05:02,850 --> 00:05:06,490 when others haven't. That's fine. They don't need to. So, yeah, today I've 86 00:05:06,490 --> 00:05:09,970 had three or four telephone calls and two or three emails with those 87 00:05:09,970 --> 00:05:13,810 people just saying thank you. And I would love to 88 00:05:13,810 --> 00:05:17,610 send a couple of copies of our book. And just writing the notes in them, 89 00:05:18,650 --> 00:05:22,410 it just reminds you of, like, you know, those sliding door moments. 90 00:05:23,130 --> 00:05:26,730 And they'd. You express that to these people, but 91 00:05:26,810 --> 00:05:30,490 they don't know the magnitude that, like, particularly a couple of them have had 92 00:05:30,490 --> 00:05:34,170 on the business. Like, we would not be sitting here right now 93 00:05:34,570 --> 00:05:37,850 if two of the people I spoke to today hadn't have given me a chance 94 00:05:37,850 --> 00:05:40,650 a few years ago. Yeah. Like, it just. There would not even be a chance. 95 00:05:40,650 --> 00:05:44,400 Yeah. Like, it just wouldn't even be there. And they explain it to them, 96 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,000 but they don't know, but they don't do it. And because of that. 97 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,280 But now you've had the opportunity to make them feel 98 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:56,000 the way that I'm currently feeling because you've reached out and said, thank you, and 99 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,720 here's a book and yada, yada, yada, and. And they gave 100 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,480 you that leg up or that support years ago. But now they're getting that same 101 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,080 experience. I'm feeling because, like, man, I had a really good impact on this person, 102 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,090 look what's now, you know, the result of me showing that kindness. 103 00:06:10,410 --> 00:06:13,050 And for the rest of their day, mate, because you've reached out and said thank 104 00:06:13,050 --> 00:06:15,370 you to them and this is where we're at now. For the rest of their 105 00:06:15,370 --> 00:06:18,330 day, they're going to be sitting there going, oh, I feel good about myself. Yeah. 106 00:06:18,330 --> 00:06:21,330 Yep. And they'll be more inclined to give another person a leg up and help 107 00:06:21,330 --> 00:06:24,490 them out. It will. And yeah, it just makes me like. And that's where particularly 108 00:06:24,490 --> 00:06:28,170 this one, like, spoke. How have you and Paul going and seeing your book? And 109 00:06:28,410 --> 00:06:31,490 I said, mate, to be honest, there's probably only a reason this book's out there 110 00:06:31,490 --> 00:06:34,740 and that Paul and myself are a thing is because of what you gave me, 111 00:06:34,740 --> 00:06:37,620 you know, and when you think about it like that, 112 00:06:38,260 --> 00:06:41,700 crazy how things happen, like, and it. And that's all just sort of sitting in 113 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:45,540 here because, yeah, you've been away and just thinking, wow, like, it's so many 114 00:06:45,540 --> 00:06:48,580 things happen for a reason to get you where you are. Yeah. And I think 115 00:06:48,580 --> 00:06:52,260 that's. It just all comes back to trying to be a really kind human 116 00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:56,020 and doing things to help people. Not because you want something in return, but 117 00:06:56,180 --> 00:06:59,920 because it feels good and you believe in people. So, yeah, I think 118 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,280 that's where, you know, writing this book between us, it's going to help a lot 119 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:06,480 of people, but it's also been a really nice sort of experience for me to 120 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,440 think back and think, right, how have I been able to get to where I 121 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,480 am now? And who are some people that have really helped me that didn't have 122 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,080 to. I didn't know from Bara Fish, you know, and, yeah, today 123 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,720 I've been able to have a conversation with a couple of them and it made 124 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,440 me feel bloody good. Not going to lie. And I'm sitting here as you were 125 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,880 talking about that, you know, you said a few times, like, Paul and I wouldn't 126 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,320 be sitting here right now. We actually, like. And that is crazy. It is crazy, 127 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,110 isn't it? And I want to get to a level. There's a favorite podcast 128 00:07:31,110 --> 00:07:34,870 of mine called Two Bears and One Cave. Absolute piss. I have 129 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:38,670 a podcast and they're just two mates on it that have become 130 00:07:38,830 --> 00:07:42,550 successful. You know what I mean? Business and become successful. And they just 131 00:07:42,550 --> 00:07:44,910 had their birthdays. And this is the level that I want us to get to. 132 00:07:46,990 --> 00:07:50,510 This is the level I want us to get to for their birthday. 133 00:07:50,590 --> 00:07:54,310 So Bert or Tom, whichever one it was, they started buying each other gifts for 134 00:07:54,310 --> 00:07:58,090 their birthday. All right. And for this Latest one, I think 135 00:07:58,090 --> 00:08:01,570 it was, Bert got Tom. He literally gave a bloke. Tom's dream has always been 136 00:08:01,570 --> 00:08:05,370 to have a race team. And so Bert 137 00:08:05,370 --> 00:08:08,970 gave this bloke $100,000 as a birthday gift to 138 00:08:08,970 --> 00:08:12,730 Tom, his podcast partner, his business partner, to 139 00:08:12,730 --> 00:08:16,370 build him his dream race car and set up a whole race team. And then 140 00:08:16,370 --> 00:08:18,890 he gave it to him as a surprise. And I'm sitting this morning listening to 141 00:08:18,890 --> 00:08:22,650 his podcast going, oh, I can't wait to get to that level. Where else 142 00:08:22,650 --> 00:08:26,330 are going wrong? Feliza's out there. I 143 00:08:26,330 --> 00:08:29,630 can't wait to get to level. All right, We're a long way, I. Know, but 144 00:08:29,630 --> 00:08:33,390 we're building. Imagine when it gets to that stage and we 145 00:08:33,550 --> 00:08:37,350 remember these, you know, these beginnings, these humble 146 00:08:37,350 --> 00:08:40,230 beginnings that we're having in our bunker we're sitting in right now. And to be 147 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:43,150 able to be able. To give someone in the back of. My shit, 100 grand 148 00:08:43,550 --> 00:08:46,990 to give here. Oh, he give side of the ultimate birthday present. Here's a hundred 149 00:08:46,990 --> 00:08:50,430 thousand dollar budget. Don't even worry about him. Just get us an office. Yeah, 150 00:08:50,590 --> 00:08:54,390 get us a golf simulator. That's what I'd like probably more than 151 00:08:54,390 --> 00:08:58,190 anything. Now, I was going to just 152 00:08:58,190 --> 00:09:01,950 give people an idea of the book. Obviously, today is 23 153 00:09:01,950 --> 00:09:05,510 January, so 23 June. Sorry, 23 June. Thank you. 154 00:09:05,510 --> 00:09:08,910 That's why we're doing this together. So I was just going to flip to today's 155 00:09:08,910 --> 00:09:12,670 book, the date and I'll read that out now in the book. Each month's 156 00:09:12,670 --> 00:09:16,390 got a theme around, you know, what different life skills 157 00:09:16,390 --> 00:09:20,150 we're working on. So, for example, like connection and kindness, empathy, 158 00:09:20,510 --> 00:09:24,350 thankful and reflection, playful resilience, joy of giving, mindful 159 00:09:24,350 --> 00:09:27,790 moments and so forth. And with that, each month, the stories 160 00:09:28,110 --> 00:09:31,870 that relate to that play challenge are about different things. 161 00:09:31,950 --> 00:09:35,310 They could be like sports stars, they could be planets, they could be 162 00:09:35,310 --> 00:09:38,590 cartoon characters, movie stars. World events. World events. 163 00:09:39,070 --> 00:09:41,950 And this one is different places around the world. So 164 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:46,190 for June23, this is all about 165 00:09:46,690 --> 00:09:50,530 France's cafe culture. In France, the simple act of sitting in 166 00:09:50,530 --> 00:09:54,210 the cafe, sipping coffee and people watching is a cherished 167 00:09:54,210 --> 00:09:57,570 tradition. French cafe culture encourages people to slow down, 168 00:09:57,730 --> 00:10:01,490 appreciate the moment and enjoy their own company. This practice celebrates 169 00:10:01,490 --> 00:10:05,010 self appreciation and the joy of taking time for oneself without 170 00:10:05,090 --> 00:10:08,450 rushing or distractions. I think a lot of people need that these days. 171 00:10:08,850 --> 00:10:12,050 It's a reminder that we are worthy of our own time and attention. 172 00:10:12,570 --> 00:10:16,410 Like Francis cafe culture. Let's celebrate ourselves today by taking a 173 00:10:16,410 --> 00:10:20,250 few peaceful moments to relax and enjoy our own company. And 174 00:10:20,250 --> 00:10:22,770 I think like before I get on this, I think we've just sort of done 175 00:10:22,770 --> 00:10:26,410 that in our own not selfish way. But that's what a podcast is 176 00:10:26,410 --> 00:10:29,370 like we're both talking about. And we've basically done that today. 177 00:10:30,250 --> 00:10:33,810 You did it in the car when you finished your workshop. I did. And I 178 00:10:33,810 --> 00:10:36,330 did it here today. Just sitting and just sitting. 179 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,760 What's happened? How do we end up here? So. And then. So then the 180 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,200 challenge. So. And this is probably a good one for everyone to do. It doesn't 181 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,360 mean just because you're listening today you need to do it. But the Savor the 182 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,000 moment challenge. Take a few moments to enjoy a quiet moment with yourself. 183 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,440 Whether a cup of tea or coffee or simply sitting 184 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,160 peacefully. If you have the ability to make your own way to a 185 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,880 beautiful spot with a view and savor the moment. Focus on being present. 186 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,760 Recognize how beautiful the world is around you and. And appreciate 187 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,360 this time that he's dedicated to you like the French. Allow yourself to 188 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,000 enjoy this pause as a way of honoring your presence and self worth. 189 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,720 And it should have had in there Honoring the moment. 190 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,040 So that's sort of what the book is to give people an idea and things 191 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,840 like that. But yeah, I thought that was very fitting with what we've just spoken 192 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,760 about. And that was not script at all. Which I love. We have no idea 193 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,520 what we're going to talk about. That was absolutely brilliant. I really 194 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,480 like that. Well done. That's cool. And it just goes show the bookies and all 195 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,070 just play. Yeah. There's obviously there's activities like that. 196 00:11:37,070 --> 00:11:40,870 There's reflecting ones. But there's all different types of play. And sometimes 197 00:11:40,870 --> 00:11:43,710 human beings just need that reminder. Hey, like that staff member today, it was like 198 00:11:43,710 --> 00:11:46,790 how I just. I was. My whole workshop was direct at Utah students and the. 199 00:11:46,790 --> 00:11:49,030 And the year 12 teacher came at the end and she was like I needed 200 00:11:49,030 --> 00:11:52,710 that more than the kids. A few things you said really resonated and went shit, 201 00:11:52,710 --> 00:11:55,110 I need to stop and smell the roses and have a bit more fun and 202 00:11:55,110 --> 00:11:58,950 stop letting people steal my joy. And yeah. Yeah. So sometimes we 203 00:11:58,950 --> 00:12:02,700 just need someone to remind us like us or our book just to stop at 204 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:06,260 some time 100. And that's the thing we play as well that it's not always 205 00:12:06,260 --> 00:12:09,780 go, go, go. You know, you've got active play, you've got static play, you've got 206 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:13,500 creative play, imaginary play. Like there's so many different ways of 207 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:17,020 doing that. And I think that's what we've tried to incorporate in that Book. So 208 00:12:17,259 --> 00:12:20,940 Last Shameless Plug. Both our books come out in three 209 00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:24,500 days time. 365 days of play and the 210 00:12:24,500 --> 00:12:27,660 Playful Astronauts. They are both available at. On. 211 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,600 Yeah, on Amazon, Booktopia, Barnes and Noble 212 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,640 and they're also available in Amber Press. Who are our publishers? 213 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:39,120 Our publishers? Yep. So go and check that out. You can grab them 214 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,840 anywhere around the world and they'll be posted to you. Yeah. 215 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:46,560 So pretty exciting. Awesome Christmas present. Great Christmas stock pollen. Now for 216 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:50,040 Christmas people get the Christmas shopping done out the way. God, those people that have 217 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,880 Christmas grind. Not cross my gears. It blows my mind how 218 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,360 people have got their Christmas shopping done already. I know some people that have already 219 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,960 got the Christmas shopping done. My wife's pretty good with it. Really? Yeah. She loves 220 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,400 it though. But you know what they miss out on? All the hustle bustle of 221 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,200 late night shopping. Christmas. No, it's the best. I hate that. Me and 222 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,720 the boys just go to chatty late nights. It was unreal. I never go to 223 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,920 a shopping center. I hate it. I hate everything about it. You love shopping though. 224 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,280 I do, but I know what I want and I just. Online demon. And if 225 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,800 I don't like it, I just. Just don't return it 226 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,320 anyway. That's a story for another day. That is a story for another day. What 227 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,000 do you got for us today, mate? You've always got something. I've always got a 228 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,600 little something happening. Give us some golden nuggets. Give us something. I'm 229 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,680 gonna throw something out here and ask you a question. That's the whole point of 230 00:13:32,680 --> 00:13:35,600 the podcast. This is the whole point of a code. So first question that notes. 231 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,520 Do you think, do you think that a side order 232 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,360 of stubbornness is needed to be successful? Bloody 233 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,760 oath. It is 100. If you are not 234 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,480 stubborn, then you'll end up not getting anything done. You have to be 235 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,180 selfish. And that's hardest thing is if you want to be 236 00:13:54,180 --> 00:13:57,700 successful and do something, you can't please everybody. And there will be 237 00:13:58,100 --> 00:14:00,820 people that you upset or there'll be people that you let down. 238 00:14:02,340 --> 00:14:06,140 Yeah. That's just the way human nature goes. If you try and please 239 00:14:06,140 --> 00:14:09,860 everybody and you end up doing nothing and you end up pleasing no one. 240 00:14:10,180 --> 00:14:13,940 So I think stubbornness is important. Yeah. Because I think that's how 241 00:14:13,940 --> 00:14:17,580 people, they admire those traits in certain people when done 242 00:14:17,580 --> 00:14:21,400 well. Just probably reflecting on mine that yeah, some of my 243 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,200 stubbornness wasn't good. But you learn from that and you try and get better at 244 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,800 things you're doing. But yeah, without that you will not be able to do 245 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,440 Anything. Yeah, because not many people would put stubbornness as 246 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,000 an incredibly important character trait to be successful, would they? 247 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,760 And that's what got me thinking about that one. But you're right, you need it. 248 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,320 Because chances are when you start something new, it's going to fail. 249 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:47,120 You won't see any results for a long time. You've got to keep showing 250 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,200 up. You got to get. And things might not go your way, and you've got 251 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,540 to be stuck. Stubborn in the fact that, man, I know. I believe this can 252 00:14:52,540 --> 00:14:54,700 work, and I know it can work. So I'm going to be stubborn here, even 253 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:57,340 though half people are telling me it's a dumb idea. Your parents, when you said 254 00:14:57,340 --> 00:15:00,820 you're going to quit teaching and do a play consultant or play games, you're an 255 00:15:00,820 --> 00:15:03,820 idiot. Didn't even know what a play consultant was. I made that up eventually, so 256 00:15:03,820 --> 00:15:07,100 at least I could call myself something. You know what I mean? But. Yeah, but 257 00:15:07,100 --> 00:15:10,900 your stubbornness in inverted brackets and commas legend here. You know, the amount of 258 00:15:10,900 --> 00:15:13,540 apps you developed. And then I started doing some research on this. Like the Wright 259 00:15:13,540 --> 00:15:17,380 brothers, they invented planes. Yeah, they. And I didn't know this, they took 260 00:15:18,150 --> 00:15:21,750 multiple spare parts with them on every single flight because they 261 00:15:21,750 --> 00:15:24,190 knew they were going to crash and they'd have to rebuild to be able to 262 00:15:24,190 --> 00:15:27,470 fly back home where they. Where they landed from. Wow. I know, right? And so 263 00:15:27,470 --> 00:15:30,550 imagine that. Imagine bloody going, right, I'm going to build a plane. Everyone's like, you 264 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:34,150 guys are idiots. I'm packing spare parts into this plane because we know we're going 265 00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:37,990 to crash. Well, now make it heavier also. It's a bit. And they. 266 00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:41,270 And they rebuilt numerous times. You got people like, you know, Martin Luther King, Abraham. 267 00:15:41,270 --> 00:15:45,050 Abraham Lincoln, failed campaigns left, right and center. Were stubborn, 268 00:15:45,050 --> 00:15:48,890 didn't believe in it. You know, Martin Luther King's campaigns, 269 00:15:49,050 --> 00:15:52,330 heaps of violence. Everyone told him to stop what he was doing, kept on going, 270 00:15:52,410 --> 00:15:55,370 and then eventually, you know, won the voting act and 271 00:15:56,250 --> 00:16:00,090 people of all colors to vote and stuff. And. Yeah. And then so 272 00:16:00,250 --> 00:16:02,850 when I got thinking that, and then I thought of you, and that's when I 273 00:16:02,850 --> 00:16:06,450 brought it in today. You know, how many bloody apps have you 274 00:16:06,450 --> 00:16:09,650 built and how many ideas have you had? And this whole. But it's all led 275 00:16:09,650 --> 00:16:13,480 to here, right? And I'm like. I'm like. A lot stubbornness. You need a 276 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,280 side order of stubbornness. You probably need more than 277 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,000 something because a lot of it, you're doing things that 278 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,680 people don't. Like you don't. There's no blueprint to copy or anything and say, 279 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,480 yeah, I'd 100. And you can be stubborn and not be an. You 280 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,960 can still be stubborn and go, I believe in it, but still treat people kindly 281 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,080 and go to things right away. But just that. Yeah. And I don't know, then. 282 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,650 Then I was thinking, is it more stubborn? Can you replace that with 283 00:16:37,650 --> 00:16:41,050 grit? Can you replace that resilience? Yeah, you probably can. 284 00:16:41,210 --> 00:16:45,010 But I think stubbornness is a good way to. Because you don't believe. Hey, man, 285 00:16:45,010 --> 00:16:48,850 I believe in this. I think you have to be stubborn because the time you're 286 00:16:48,850 --> 00:16:52,449 spending in whatever you're doing, you've got to spend a lot of time in it. 287 00:16:52,449 --> 00:16:56,290 So it's probably taking away from other areas and people in your life and 288 00:16:56,290 --> 00:17:00,090 you. Like, without doing that, it won't work or you won't get whatever you're 289 00:17:00,090 --> 00:17:03,770 thinking off the ground. So, yeah, it is stubborn and it does affect other people. 290 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:08,000 So I don't know. It's a juggling act. 100%. You have to be bloody 291 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,440 stubborn. Bloody ace. Now, my next question, that notice and not one word of a 292 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,400 lie links in with how you kickstart his pot off, which is. Sometimes we're on 293 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,680 the same page. Which is. Which is awesome, right? Pistol, bang, bang. 294 00:17:19,919 --> 00:17:23,680 So no friends or family. All right. So no friends or family. So 295 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,000 friends or family there. Don't be upset when he doesn't include you in this. So 296 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,770 no friends or family. I want you to real life a couple of people 297 00:17:30,770 --> 00:17:34,090 who have impacted your life. No friends or family. 298 00:17:34,410 --> 00:17:37,290 Early days, two PE teachers and talk about them a little bit. 299 00:17:37,930 --> 00:17:41,690 Graham Waite and Barry Simmons, they just believed in me, 300 00:17:41,690 --> 00:17:45,530 like, even though I was quite out there. And, yeah, they 301 00:17:45,530 --> 00:17:48,610 just believed in me always. And then they encouraged me to be a PE teacher, 302 00:17:48,610 --> 00:17:51,050 said, dale, I think you'd be really good at it, and said, why don't you 303 00:17:51,050 --> 00:17:54,690 do an AFL training ship at our school? And. And then they. They both went 304 00:17:54,690 --> 00:17:58,210 to Ballarat Uni. So I went there and I wanted to have the same 305 00:17:58,210 --> 00:18:01,670 impact on kids that they had had on me. Have you modeled. 306 00:18:01,750 --> 00:18:04,950 Did early on, did you model your teaching bit on their teaching style, do you 307 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:08,630 reckon? Probably on their. The way they treated people? Yeah. Yeah. 308 00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:12,430 Particularly kids. They were energetic, they'd show up. They gave 309 00:18:12,430 --> 00:18:16,030 everybody a fair go. Yeah. And, yeah, I just really appreciate it. And I know 310 00:18:16,030 --> 00:18:19,710 they really helped me out. And then there was a 311 00:18:19,710 --> 00:18:23,350 lot. Some of these people become friends since then, but let's go. As long as 312 00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:27,040 they weren't friends to begin with. Nah. So then there was a guy named 313 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,840 Matt Cullen who was one of my first ever career captains. And 314 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:34,080 he believed in me and he said, well, I'll give you a go at number 315 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,640 three, playing a grade at a pretty young age. And he ended up, he was 316 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,160 a teacher as well. And when I finished uni Heaven Bus Mates, we got stuck 317 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,560 in Thailand and had all these riots on. So I had all these job 318 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,280 interviews in like Melbourne and other places and we'll stuck there for three 319 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,920 weeks. I missed them all. And I remember coloring me up and saying, 320 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,870 mate, how's the job? I ain't going, I've got nothing. He goes, oh, if you 321 00:18:54,870 --> 00:18:57,950 come back to Shep, I'm pretty sure I can get your job at Orvale Primary 322 00:18:57,950 --> 00:19:01,230 School. And he goes, this is one condition, you have to come back and captain 323 00:19:01,230 --> 00:19:04,990 coach crew club. I was happy to do that anyway, so he became 324 00:19:04,990 --> 00:19:08,230 a really good mentor and helped me with my teaching and so forth. And then 325 00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:12,710 the second last one's Jared Robinson. He. 326 00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:16,710 I wouldn't even know how to run a workshop or how to set him up 327 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:20,510 or anything like that. We grew up together in Shepparton, but we weren't 328 00:19:20,510 --> 00:19:23,870 close friends then. But yeah, obviously we talk every day now and become really good 329 00:19:23,870 --> 00:19:27,440 friends. And then the last one is Brad Smith who 330 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,800 just recently wrote the Playful Astronauts with. And I was 331 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,360 doing boot camps years ago now, probably six years ago, 332 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,960 and Brad rode past up on a big bridge up top and goes, do you 333 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,040 do boot camps? They're not up there, buddy, come down here. And he started doing 334 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,600 boot camps. And like I did always back then is I'd always look at everyone's 335 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,960 like email signature. I was like, oh, I was very curious about what he did 336 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,730 and I ended up approaching him saying, I, I don't want you to pay for 337 00:19:51,730 --> 00:19:55,170 boot camps or pt, but I want a week of, I want two hours of 338 00:19:55,170 --> 00:19:58,450 your time every week and I want to learn from your mentor, you. And he 339 00:19:58,450 --> 00:20:01,810 didn't, didn't do that because he just works with high end corporates and 340 00:20:01,810 --> 00:20:05,090 CEOs. Anyways, I think he sort of liked me a little bit. I don't know. 341 00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:08,370 Anyway, I sort of forced him to do it. And yeah, we've become really good 342 00:20:08,370 --> 00:20:11,890 mates now and he's helped me actually figure out what it is that we do. 343 00:20:11,890 --> 00:20:15,530 Yeah. And yeah, we've just created the Playful Astronauts together, which is a really 344 00:20:15,530 --> 00:20:19,330 nice thing as well. So they're probably the people that, when I think about my 345 00:20:19,330 --> 00:20:22,130 journey, that have influenced me along the way and 346 00:20:22,770 --> 00:20:26,370 guided and supported me in different Things I need, they would be mine. Yeah, I 347 00:20:26,370 --> 00:20:30,170 love it. What about you, mate? It's interesting because mine are a couple of teachers. 348 00:20:30,170 --> 00:20:33,810 Like my first one is Mr. Cusack and Ms. Gunn. You talking about Mr. Cusack? 349 00:20:33,810 --> 00:20:36,770 Yeah, I do know Mr. Cusack. And he was just a legend of a teacher, 350 00:20:36,770 --> 00:20:40,410 especially in the year 12 English. And just. And how he's 351 00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:44,130 impacted me was definitely the way that he built relationships with people and 352 00:20:44,130 --> 00:20:47,530 the way he treated people. And he didn't. He saw the fun side of education. 353 00:20:47,930 --> 00:20:51,610 And, you know, back when I was playing in school, I was playing 354 00:20:51,610 --> 00:20:55,210 high level soccer and we'd go on trial for like Victorian schoolboys team. 355 00:20:55,290 --> 00:20:58,690 And he never once. We used to miss his class all the time, but he 356 00:20:58,690 --> 00:21:02,450 actually would clap us out the door. You know, he'd really encourage us 357 00:21:02,450 --> 00:21:05,970 to go and do it. And yeah, just the way that he supported us, but 358 00:21:05,970 --> 00:21:08,690 just the way he formed relationships with his students in class, how much fun he 359 00:21:08,690 --> 00:21:12,250 made it. I think that's had a huge impact on me and the way that 360 00:21:12,250 --> 00:21:14,570 I went about my teaching and the way that I set myself up. And Ms. 361 00:21:14,570 --> 00:21:17,210 Gunn was the same. I became a PE teacher because of Ms. Gun. 362 00:21:18,770 --> 00:21:22,490 The other one is a guy called John Patterson, who was 363 00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:26,210 my first principal. Same deal. I was over in the States. 364 00:21:26,210 --> 00:21:28,850 I was snowboarding my ass off in the States. And he gave me a call 365 00:21:28,850 --> 00:21:32,610 and said, you know, I've. I've. I've heard you're okay as a human 366 00:21:32,610 --> 00:21:35,330 being. I'm offering you a job. And I was like, I never, never met this 367 00:21:35,330 --> 00:21:38,530 bloke before. And. And he said, I got a job waiting for you at Broadfield 368 00:21:38,530 --> 00:21:41,690 Secondary College. And I was like, that's great, John, but I'm currently in Aspen snowboarding. 369 00:21:41,690 --> 00:21:44,850 And he was like, oh, no, right. He said, when are you back? I said, 370 00:21:44,850 --> 00:21:47,650 I'm not back till June. I said, halfway through the year, he goes, I'll hold 371 00:21:47,650 --> 00:21:51,450 it for you. I was like, holy crap. And so I 372 00:21:51,450 --> 00:21:55,050 had sliding doors moments because he was just the most phenomenal human 373 00:21:55,050 --> 00:21:58,650 being. This is a school principal who my very first 374 00:21:58,650 --> 00:22:00,450 meeting was. I got to the school and he took me to the pub for 375 00:22:00,450 --> 00:22:04,250 a counter meal. So I probably should have done that. I know, it was 376 00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:07,970 unreal. You just can't do that now. And then I left. I worked there for 377 00:22:07,970 --> 00:22:11,710 six years and. And I left. And not 378 00:22:11,710 --> 00:22:15,070 one with a lie. Every year he still calls him on my birthday. 379 00:22:15,390 --> 00:22:19,070 That's amazing. This is amazing. So no text. No text call and 380 00:22:19,070 --> 00:22:22,830 it's cool. How powerful. Doesn't forget it and John would be 381 00:22:23,070 --> 00:22:26,870 late 70s now, I'd say. But in terms of 382 00:22:26,870 --> 00:22:30,270 how it's impacted my life and lessons learned from it is just, yeah, the. 383 00:22:30,750 --> 00:22:34,510 I don't know, really work on those relationships, I guess. But 384 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:37,660 he just had such a good culture set up at the school and it was 385 00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:40,460 all about how he treated you from the get go and the trust and 386 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:44,780 yeah, it was just phenomenal. So it's funny that my three who aren't my mates, 387 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:48,220 they're not family and friends have impacted me. I don't know why I wanted to 388 00:22:48,220 --> 00:22:51,380 ask that today that just. I'll come with a few notes and I was just 389 00:22:51,380 --> 00:22:53,620 thinking about the other day and you know, how I walk and I think and 390 00:22:53,620 --> 00:22:57,020 I process things and I just got thinking about people that have had an impact 391 00:22:57,020 --> 00:23:00,580 on my life and it brought a smile on my face to recall and think 392 00:23:00,580 --> 00:23:02,780 about lots of them. And as I asked you that question, it was really nice 393 00:23:02,780 --> 00:23:05,220 to see the smile on your face. Yeah, I did. As you were thinking about 394 00:23:05,220 --> 00:23:08,770 it all, you know what I mean? Everyone out there has got people who aren't 395 00:23:08,770 --> 00:23:11,450 family or friends that have impacted them in some way, shape or form. Let them 396 00:23:11,450 --> 00:23:14,570 know though. Let them know. Yeah, let them know. Like I'm going to send John 397 00:23:14,570 --> 00:23:17,890 a copy of our book. Amazing. No doubts about it. And it brought a smile 398 00:23:17,890 --> 00:23:20,330 on her face thinking that I get to do that for him now and you'll 399 00:23:20,330 --> 00:23:24,010 go look where you've come from. Whippersnapper. That snowboarding, you know, you 400 00:23:24,010 --> 00:23:27,410 were 21 years of age. I did the same with 401 00:23:27,730 --> 00:23:31,010 one of the people I just spoke about then. I'd just signed one this morning 402 00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:34,730 and sent it. The two PE teachers I mentioned, Graham and 403 00:23:34,730 --> 00:23:38,380 Barrio, when my first book came out, I got like 10 advanced 404 00:23:38,380 --> 00:23:42,180 copies and I sent one each to them. I 405 00:23:42,180 --> 00:23:45,540 think the biggest thing with what we've just spoken about then is that if you 406 00:23:45,540 --> 00:23:49,220 want to do something or you admire someone, reach out and ask for a coffee 407 00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:52,980 or go and say I want to learn from you or whatever. That's 408 00:23:52,980 --> 00:23:56,780 how I've been able to, particularly with Jared and 409 00:23:57,020 --> 00:24:00,780 Brad, just because I've said, yeah, I want to learn from you. But then the 410 00:24:00,780 --> 00:24:04,250 only way that continues going is if they give you advice, you actually action 411 00:24:04,330 --> 00:24:08,050 something, you know, like talks cheap. Don't waste people's time. Yeah. You know, and 412 00:24:08,050 --> 00:24:11,450 then I think that's why, you know, you get results is because 413 00:24:11,610 --> 00:24:15,370 I generally want to learn from them because I admire and respect them. And 414 00:24:15,370 --> 00:24:18,250 because you can only give back to them by following through 415 00:24:19,290 --> 00:24:23,010 they're like, wasting my time. Do you know what I mean? Like, 416 00:24:23,010 --> 00:24:26,530 and that's. You never want that. And I don't want people to think that of 417 00:24:26,530 --> 00:24:29,330 me anyway. If I want. If I'm asking for advice, I'm going to follow it 418 00:24:29,330 --> 00:24:32,160 through. If it doesn't work, then I'm like, well, that didn't work. And they're like, 419 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,520 okay, let's try something else. But, yeah, you can't go to someone 420 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,120 and say, I'd love to learn from you and do nothing. 421 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,600 Or like, oh, yeah. And you give advice and you're like, oh, yeah, I'm just 422 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,080 not ready. Like, don't waste people's time. If you're going to be brave enough. To 423 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,800 ask for it 100%, that's the hardest thing to do, I feel. Yeah, yeah. So 424 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,600 go with it. But definitely write a book to Jonathan. I will do. That's brilliant. 425 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,400 I would do. And if you're listening out there, think of one person that's impacted 426 00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,060 you and let them know. Let them know. That's your actionable moment from 427 00:25:00,060 --> 00:25:03,820 today. Let them know. Parents, parents and home 428 00:25:03,820 --> 00:25:06,020 and all that kind of stuff and life. And obviously we're in the thick of 429 00:25:06,020 --> 00:25:09,700 it. It's. I don't know how to 430 00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:12,940 word this. I want to paint the picture and just get people thinking about 431 00:25:13,580 --> 00:25:16,940 how parents show up at home compared to showing up at work. 432 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:21,100 All right. We spend eight hours a day at work, roughly the normal person. 433 00:25:21,260 --> 00:25:23,860 Some of us do you? Not all the time. No. Me, not the time. That's 434 00:25:23,860 --> 00:25:27,580 great. You do enough work for four people, my friend. 435 00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:31,150 I've got a shaky DK, 100%. 436 00:25:33,710 --> 00:25:36,230 It's only because you've got a work ethic for 22 minutes, so I can just 437 00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:39,470 relax a little bit. But a lot of people, 438 00:25:39,950 --> 00:25:43,150 the average. The average. The average Joe, eight hours at work. 439 00:25:43,950 --> 00:25:47,590 They'll have workshops or meetings to do, and they'll plan for them. You know what 440 00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:50,510 I mean? They want to make sure it flows or organize agenda items, blah, blah, 441 00:25:50,510 --> 00:25:53,950 blah. Generally, when they get home, they've got about three hours 442 00:25:54,260 --> 00:25:57,060 of work. Like your kid, you get home at five, your kids are in bed 443 00:25:57,060 --> 00:26:00,820 at eight. You've really got three hours of work in inverted 444 00:26:00,820 --> 00:26:03,860 commas at home. And that work is your family and your kids. 445 00:26:05,060 --> 00:26:08,700 And it just got me thinking the other day about how so many parents 446 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:12,500 don't show up at home the way they do for work. You 447 00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,660 know, I mean, if they put the same amount of effort and time and energy 448 00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:18,500 into they do for their businesses or even just their job, their 9 to 5 449 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:21,060 job that they don't even own the business to, but they put their, you know, 450 00:26:21,610 --> 00:26:25,410 soul into it and they prepare for it. I just think 451 00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:29,210 there'd be so many kids in a much better space if they put like, 452 00:26:29,290 --> 00:26:32,890 the most important meaning of your day is that dinner table 453 00:26:32,890 --> 00:26:36,610 meeting with your kids and your family. That's the most important meeting of the day. 454 00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:40,450 But how many people would think about it like that? And it. That very true. 455 00:26:40,450 --> 00:26:43,970 And then I know I spoke when we did that Peninsula 456 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:47,650 Principals conference, I was pretty open and vulnerable about, you 457 00:26:47,650 --> 00:26:51,490 know, been a dad. Yeah. And I said, I've sort of been creating lesson plans 458 00:26:51,490 --> 00:26:55,010 and I still do that. I plan on what I'm gonna ask 459 00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:58,610 questions and then what games we're gonna play each night. And 460 00:26:58,610 --> 00:27:02,290 I'm very intentionally. I tell them we're gonna do that. So then once we finish 461 00:27:02,290 --> 00:27:05,690 dinner and bath and everything like that, then we're going to get those. 462 00:27:06,010 --> 00:27:09,850 Yeah, but you got. Otherwise, you just. It's hard work. It's a long 463 00:27:09,850 --> 00:27:13,490 three hours, isn't it? And, yeah, some people get home and go, oh, days 464 00:27:13,490 --> 00:27:17,030 done. No, day's not done. Day's three, got 465 00:27:17,030 --> 00:27:20,830 three. The most important three hours of your work, of your job, 466 00:27:20,830 --> 00:27:23,430 which is parenting. You know what I mean? It's set up to go. And, 467 00:27:24,550 --> 00:27:27,990 yeah, like, this got me thinking this last night, last night after dinner, and 468 00:27:28,150 --> 00:27:31,670 both the kids were like. Hunter especially was like, oh, can we watch tv? And 469 00:27:31,670 --> 00:27:34,110 Mum, to her credit, said, no, which I love. She was like, no, not the 470 00:27:34,110 --> 00:27:37,830 moment. And they both went, ugh. And they groaned. And straight away I jumped 471 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:39,870 in. And I also would have loved to have just sat on the couch and 472 00:27:39,870 --> 00:27:43,270 chirped, but I was like, who wants to build Lego? Yeah. And straight away, 473 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:46,870 yeah, yeah, yeah. And we spent the next 45 minutes from now, 474 00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:49,910 you know, building some Lego and those sorts of things. And that fork in the 475 00:27:49,910 --> 00:27:53,390 road moment of. It would have been so easy for us, both, Mel and I, 476 00:27:53,390 --> 00:27:56,550 just to switch off in that moment and go, yeah, bugger it, go watch tv. 477 00:27:57,750 --> 00:28:00,590 Or you play the hard card and you step up and you work at home 478 00:28:00,590 --> 00:28:03,870 in inverted commas and you actually, you know, do a shift and put two hours 479 00:28:03,870 --> 00:28:07,630 in or whatever it might be, and it just pays dividends. You feel so 480 00:28:07,630 --> 00:28:10,430 much better, though. You do, don't you? You're actually like, oh, that was a really 481 00:28:10,430 --> 00:28:14,210 enjoyable evening. Instead of putting out fires, yelling and getting 482 00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:17,730 angry, which doesn't help anyone, watching. 15 episodes of Whatever. 483 00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:22,890 I hate that show for people out there, that same age kids and watching 484 00:28:22,890 --> 00:28:26,690 Peppa Pig. How is that show? Oh, I 485 00:28:26,690 --> 00:28:30,330 just don't even. Anyway, yeah, I don't like Peppa Pig, but anyway, that's good, mate. 486 00:28:30,330 --> 00:28:33,970 Very, very true. Yeah. So just if you're listening, you're driving home. Whatever it is. 487 00:28:33,970 --> 00:28:35,890 We have a lot of people that often text in saying, yeah, we listen on 488 00:28:35,890 --> 00:28:39,090 the way home, whatever it is. Just let that little seed sink in and go, 489 00:28:39,630 --> 00:28:42,630 righto. And when I get home, my work day is not done. When I get 490 00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:45,630 home, the most important part of my work day is starting. 100, and that's how 491 00:28:45,630 --> 00:28:49,430 I'm gonna. That's where you get the book out. 365 days 492 00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:52,710 of play, you open up to the current date, you read the family a story, 493 00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:56,310 and then straight away you've got a challenge to do. So you don't even need 494 00:28:56,310 --> 00:28:59,070 to think. Yeah. You don't even need to create a lesson plan. There is no 495 00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:02,270 if you're not playful. Don't worry. That's what we've done for you. 496 00:29:02,750 --> 00:29:06,580 That's a great segue. But if you buy now, throwing 497 00:29:06,580 --> 00:29:10,420 some stagnant. Hello, everyone. Hey. I 498 00:29:10,420 --> 00:29:13,580 hope you have an awesome week. I hope you're as up and about as I 499 00:29:13,580 --> 00:29:17,220 am after listening to this. It's been a great day so far. Yeah. Enjoy. 500 00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:20,980 Enjoy the week ahead. Connect with everyone. Thanks for the support. Chat to you 501 00:29:20,980 --> 00:29:22,020 soon on your legends.