Recruiting tech OG, Jon Bischke, on AI agents, proof of work, and raising the bar

As the founder of Entelo, one of the earliest recruiting tech startups, and now the leader of ZoomInfo’s recruiting product, Jon Bischke’s seen every wave of industry change. In this episode, he joins Nolan to talk through what actually works in hiring today, what’s changing fast, and why the most elite companies are doubling down on data, not guesswork.

You’ll hear about:

• Why pipeline cures all hiring pain
• How “proof of work” is becoming more powerful than LinkedIn profiles
• What agent-to-agent recruiting might look like in the near future
• How to raise hiring quality with real benchmarks

Key topics covered:

[00:00] Intro

[03:42] Pipeline cures all recruiting problems

[08:15] Entelo's founding story and market creation

[11:16] 9 years running Entelo in 3 acts

[13:23] Why Entelo copycats struggle to scale

[15:32] AI agents talking to AI agents

[18:36] Regulatory challenges blocking AI adoption

[21:49] John's return to recruiting tech

[24:47] ZoomInfo's AI builder catalog launch

[28:44] Proof of work sourcing advantage

[31:01] Pipeline strength prevents bad hiring decisions

[34:56] Bespoke recruiting in the AI era

[37:16] Zero executive attrition in 8 years

[39:30] Hire above average framework

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What is 10x Recruiting?

10x Recruiting is the podcast from Metaview that brings you real, unfiltered conversations with today’s top talent leaders. In each episode, Nolan Church (former Carta CPO & DoorDash Head of Talent) and his guests will challenge popular thinking and spark new ideas about what it takes to build world-class teams. We’ll bring you actionable tactics you can actually put into practice now and real metrics to understand what great looks like. Always with an eye towards the future, we’ll keep you in the know about how to stay ahead of the curve in the ever-evolving world of recruiting.