Fabric fifth: rethinking the hierarchy of retrofit, with Nigel Banks (Octopus Energy)

This week we're joined by Nigel Banks, Technical Director - Zero Bills & Low Carbon Homes at Octopus Energy.

Nigel joined us to discuss his recent article: Fabric Fifth, a slightly polemical riposte to fabric-first dogma, and an interesting philosophy for retrofit. As it turned out, it’s an apposite follow-up to last week's episode with Fionn Stevenson.

Fabric Fifth - Nigel Banks

1. ASHPs ASAP
2. Get Smart
3. Measure & get comfy
4. Solar & Storage
5. Fabric Fifth

We also touch on Octopus's zero-bills proposition, but we'll do a full episode about that soon.

Notes from the show

• Nigel on LinkedIn
• The Fabric Fifth article itself
• An article about Chris Warboys' SAP conversion tool
• The academic paper Jeff mentions: UK Passivhaus and the energy performance gap
• Nigel in the pages of Passive House Plus

**SOME SELF-PROMOTING CALLS TO ACTION**
We don't actually earn anything from this, and it's quite a lot of work, so we have to promote the day jobs.

• Follow us on the Zero Ambitions LinkedIn page
• Jeff, Alex, and Dan about websites, branding, and communications - [e-mail]; Everything is User Experience
• Subscribe and advertise with Passive House Plus (UK edition here too)
• Check Lloyd's Substack: Carbon Upfront
• Join ACAN
• Join the AECB 
• Join the IGBC
• Check out Her Own Space, the renovation and retrofit platform for women (but not in a patronizing way)

**END OF SELF-PROMOTING CALLS TO ACTION**

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We find interesting and experienced guests who know what they're talking about, usually to discuss how we navigate the complexity of decarbonisation and sustainability in the built environment and its many related sectors.

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