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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning, good morning we talk. Oh dude, good morning,

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<v Speaker 2>good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I think what I love about is you just get

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<v Speaker 3>into it. You go for it.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't just go halfway. No, that's right, you are genuinelys.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing with me, good morning. Yes, Well it's singing. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>meaning every word that I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's deep.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I think singing in the rains where

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<v Speaker 1>that comes from? And uh uh he says nothing could

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<v Speaker 1>be grander than being Louisiana or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was always mess up the line. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>should probably look it up on it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, working well, thank you, Thank you, Chris. You're welcome

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<v Speaker 4>for a weekly dose of good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that Gene Kelly uh didn't like Debbie

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<v Speaker 1>Reynolds and uh and know what was your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it Debbie Reynolds?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, probably yeah it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was Debbie Renalds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh and and uh he treated her poorly

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<v Speaker 1>and said that she wasn't good enough to be in

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<v Speaker 1>that movie and uh and said that she couldn't dance

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<v Speaker 1>and and and publicly ridiculed her and actually made her

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<v Speaker 1>life horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And back then it was sort.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a loud yeah and uh and and uh actually

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<v Speaker 1>like prevent her for getting jobs in the future and

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<v Speaker 1>things like this. And do you know that at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of gen Kelly's life, he said, it's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that he regrets about his life the most was how

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<v Speaker 1>he treated her.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Good, I'm glad he came to that concludion me too.

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<v Speaker 3>Good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but sure didn't help poor Debbie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's one way to avoid regrets, which is be

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<v Speaker 3>a nicer person.

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<v Speaker 2>That there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, uh, for our long time listeners, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we only bring the finest news, yes, and the most

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<v Speaker 4>important news from the finest sources. We scour the internet

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<v Speaker 4>to find the finest sources of news. And now this

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<v Speaker 4>is super relevant today, this one from the Babylon B.

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<v Speaker 4>We think it's the finest news source on the planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, it's more reliable than all the other.

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<v Speaker 3>Ones, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>And if you don't know, Babylon B is a satire website,

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<v Speaker 4>very funny.

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<v Speaker 3>You should look it up sometime. But here's the headline.

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<v Speaker 4>Gen Z upset about TikTok band for four point three seconds,

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<v Speaker 4>which is the maximum amount of time they can focus

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<v Speaker 4>on something. Thanks to TikTok, very clever us. After the

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<v Speaker 4>US Supreme Court upheld the band on the Chinese social

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<v Speaker 4>media platform TikTok, gen Z managed to stay upset about

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<v Speaker 4>the band for a full four point three seconds, which

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<v Speaker 4>is the maximum amount of time they can focus on anything.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks to TikTok, the nation braced for a groundswell of

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<v Speaker 4>outrage from millions of TikTok users, but the outrage died

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<v Speaker 4>out almost as soon as it began.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm furious. I'm outraged about this. I'm hey, look, Nintendo

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<v Speaker 4>switch to is coming out, said Maverick Dixon, a former

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<v Speaker 4>gen Z TikTok user. I can't believe they would Yo,

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<v Speaker 4>look at this Instagram, battie. This violates my freedom of bro.

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<v Speaker 4>These cargo jeans are busting no cap.

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<v Speaker 3>But we were what were we talking about again?

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<v Speaker 2>I go, oh, well, that is so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Dixon then released some nervous energy by making weird noises

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<v Speaker 4>and doing a dancing made up for the hot news Chinese.

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<v Speaker 3>App Red Book. Yeah, it seems like gen.

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<v Speaker 4>Z is really already moved on to the next thing,

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<v Speaker 4>said millennial social media expert Ryan's dark Nerve. I asked

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<v Speaker 4>ten kids about it this morning. They couldn't remember what

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<v Speaker 4>TikTok was. Frankly, I'm starting to forget myself. Oh shoot,

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<v Speaker 4>Elon just caught another rocket booster.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet, oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 4>At publishing time, gen Z had found themselves outraged by

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<v Speaker 4>something else, but no one could remember what it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that is awful.

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<v Speaker 4>Yet and yet there's something It's only funny because it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. You know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had more exposure to working with gen Z on

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<v Speaker 1>our staff that I've had in the past, and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell you, uh, you know, there's there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a lot of great things about gen Z.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, absolutely, absolutely, but they sort of well.

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<v Speaker 3>They're the ones that are going to change the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yep, when they get focused on Jesus and change

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<v Speaker 4>the world, they're going to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay, thanks for putting a damper on my NEXTSS.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I was going to say is I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to say there's a lot of truth to that. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously we can't stereotype. We can't say that every.

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<v Speaker 3>Gen we can. We can, and it's funny. I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>You should try it sometimes, can we do?

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny y.

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<v Speaker 3>Stereotypes are amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>But stereotypes do exist for a reason. And I tell

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<v Speaker 1>you it is just pretty crazy. Like the exposure I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to that generation is like that is almost hard

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<v Speaker 1>to believe. It's really quiet, it's really wild.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you become a product of what's handed to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Sure right, and sure yeah, So then you find a

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<v Speaker 4>way out once you realize some of these things are

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<v Speaker 4>dead ends. And then you said to find your way out

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<v Speaker 4>of that and.

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<v Speaker 3>Make a new life.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a new sheriff in town, just like there's

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<v Speaker 3>a new app for the TikTok grievers.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a new app?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>They went with Red Book or something, which literally is

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<v Speaker 4>a communist thing modeled after the little Red Book that

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<v Speaker 4>Mao required all the communists to carry in they're in

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<v Speaker 4>the revolution.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way that that.

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<v Speaker 3>I promise you it's true. I promise you it's true.

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<v Speaker 4>That was the alternate was all these kids went over

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<v Speaker 4>and downloaded red book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that is that doesn't seem like a fire's moved.

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<v Speaker 4>That's an app Yeah yeah, And then they found out

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<v Speaker 4>how censored it is. It's hysterical, hysterical, But then now

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<v Speaker 4>it's back on. It was shut down for like what

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<v Speaker 4>ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Or something, It was like fourteen hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 4>You would have thought the gen zs in my house

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<v Speaker 4>they were going to die, like die. They were curled

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<v Speaker 4>up in the corner fetal position.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, wilting like fading. We kept bringing food and water.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't want it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so good.

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<v Speaker 3>The life wasn't worth living anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>So just like there was a new app, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>new sheriff in town.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a new sheriff in town, Jay who is anointed

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<v Speaker 4>king of Israel. Dun dun dam, there's a new appropriate king.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I don't know. I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, So here's what it says in Second King's

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<v Speaker 4>chapter nine, verse one, and we're going to read through

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<v Speaker 4>verse twenty or through thirteen. Meanwhile, Elisha, the prophet had

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<v Speaker 4>summoned a member of the group of prophets get ready

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<v Speaker 4>to travel. He told him, and take this flask of

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<v Speaker 4>olive oil with you, and go to Raymoth, Gilead. Find

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<v Speaker 4>jay Whu, son of Jehoshaphat, son of Nimshi, Call him

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<v Speaker 4>into a private room away from his friends, and pour

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<v Speaker 4>the oil over his head. Say to him, this is

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<v Speaker 4>what the Lord says, I annoint you to be the

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<v Speaker 4>king over Israel. Then open the door and run for

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<v Speaker 4>your life. So the young prophet did as he was told,

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<v Speaker 4>went to Raymouth, Gilead, and when he arrived there he

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<v Speaker 4>found Jehu sitting around with the other army officers. I

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<v Speaker 4>have a message for you, commander, he said, For which

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<v Speaker 4>one of us Jehu asked for you, commander, he replied.

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<v Speaker 4>So Jehu left the others and went into the house.

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<v Speaker 4>Then the young Prophet poured the oil over Jehu's head

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<v Speaker 4>and said, this is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says,

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<v Speaker 4>I anoint you king over the Lord's people Israel. You

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<v Speaker 4>are to destroy the family of Ahab, your master. In

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<v Speaker 4>this way, I will avenge the murder of my prophets

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<v Speaker 4>and all the Lord's servants who were killed by Jezebel.

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<v Speaker 4>The entire family of Ahab must be wiped out. I

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<v Speaker 4>will destroy every one of his male descendants, slave and

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<v Speaker 4>free alike anywhere in Israel. I will destroy the family

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<v Speaker 4>of Ahab as I destroyed the families of Jereboam son

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<v Speaker 4>of Kneebak, and of Baasha, son of Ahijah. Dogs will

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<v Speaker 4>eat Ahab's wife Jezebel at the plot of land in Jezreel,

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<v Speaker 4>and no one will bury her. Then the young prophet

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<v Speaker 4>opened the door and ran. Jaehu went back to the

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<v Speaker 4>fellow officers, and one of them asked him, what did

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<v Speaker 4>that madman want? Is everything all right? You know how

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<v Speaker 4>a man like that battles on? Jay Hue replied, you're

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<v Speaker 4>hiding something. They said, tell us, so j Hu told them.

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<v Speaker 4>He said to me, this is what the Lord says.

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<v Speaker 4>I've annoying you to be king over Israel. Then they

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<v Speaker 4>quickly spread out their cloaks on the bear steps and

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<v Speaker 4>blew the ramsworns, shouting, jay Hugh is king. Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Well there you go, there you go, jay Hugh's the king.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So can you even imagine, I mean, just because the

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<v Speaker 1>prophet shows up, uh, you know, they're just taking it

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<v Speaker 1>right at his words. So think about the weight that

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<v Speaker 1>the prophet carries. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if everybody who.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, these are these are competent military men, these.

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<v Speaker 2>Are officers, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and it's just because the off, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the prophet said you're the next king.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what's going to happen, and all.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a sudden, everybody in the room, including Jahu the commander,

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<v Speaker 1>and including everybody else, they immediately accept it, which then

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<v Speaker 1>goes to show you that in those days, the prophets

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<v Speaker 1>spoke on behalf of God. They witnessed God's miracles to

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<v Speaker 1>such a degree that they had no doubt that what

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<v Speaker 1>God said was the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, isn't credible?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that alone is amazing about this past.

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<v Speaker 3>This just exactly how God said it would happen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so so then he and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>running for your life, I don't understand that part.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he just started a coup, so there's that, but

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<v Speaker 3>he hadn't started yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, well he needed to hear him get home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean he did give him a pretty wicked assignment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So, so there's a thing that we haven't really

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<v Speaker 3>Yet in both.

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<v Speaker 4>They would gather together, and they would work together, they

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<v Speaker 4>they'd encourage one another. And so this is probably Elisha

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<v Speaker 4>But there's he's not the only one, right, there's many

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<v Speaker 4>so in this situation, he sends him in for you, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, right, but I get it, now, slow down, professor.

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<v Speaker 4>You use one syllable words. But so they had these

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<v Speaker 4>And so at this point he's getting to be an

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<v Speaker 4>do any of the running. Right, That's that's where I

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<v Speaker 4>was going. But he's not going to do any running.

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<v Speaker 4>He sends one of these young men to go and

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<v Speaker 4>send this mess which, by the way, hasn't he done

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<v Speaker 4>this a couple of times where Elisha sends some young

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it seems like Elijah did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's almost like, uh, they really truly did. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>think about the number of times where the prophet spoke

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<v Speaker 1>quite often, which is interesting, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think it's an indicator that God rarely ever

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<v Speaker 3>It always takes a team.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's really good, And that's that's so we think

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<v Speaker 4>of Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>He changed the world.

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<v Speaker 4>But every letter Paul writes just about he mentions the

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<v Speaker 4>ten people that are with him on this journey, right right, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>and uh, you know, Luke greets you and Timothy greets

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<v Speaker 4>all the other people that had served with him, and hey,

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<v Speaker 4>send some of these people to help me. So we

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<v Speaker 4>think of Paul Moses, we think of Moses, but it

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<v Speaker 4>Jethro and Jethro. He had these teams of people. These

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<v Speaker 4>It was a group of leaders. And I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>really important that we we don't just think God only

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<v Speaker 4>super important. Even if you're not the Moses, even if

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<v Speaker 4>because that's how God works.

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<v Speaker 3>He works in teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know, I mean it's actually a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, God designing the church, right and Corinthians. That says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that we are all one members of one body.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know the comparison to the human body,

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<v Speaker 1>and says the eye as a function, the hand as

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<v Speaker 1>a function. And one can't say they're more important than

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<v Speaker 1>the other. And they all need each other. They all

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<v Speaker 1>have different gifts and they all have different functions, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's one body. And so he compares it to the

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<v Speaker 1>body of Christ and and and it's and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a message that says, you know, being a part of

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<v Speaker 1>that team, uh is necessary. We every part is necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>And and some are you know, featured more than others. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>some are highlighted more than others. He even talks about that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>dishonorable parts and honorable parts and things like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, that's a good sermon right there.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what is also a great.

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<v Speaker 1>Sermon is that sometimes we think only the pastor can

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<v Speaker 1>perform this function, right, and yet isn't it amazing how

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<v Speaker 1>the how the miracles can come through a servant, right,

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<v Speaker 1>not a servant, but an assistant.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if he's a servant or not.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the first one he sent, the sent the one

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<v Speaker 4>servant with the staff, that was a servant. That wasn't

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<v Speaker 4>a okay in this when he's sending a young prophet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and so and so you know, and here these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are carrying the same authority as as Elisha is

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<v Speaker 1>telling them that they can have. Because you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to understand that it's not just the pastor or

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<v Speaker 1>the spiritual leader. God equips everybody right, So every Christian,

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<v Speaker 1>every Christian has available to them the power of the

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Spirit. Right, it's the same power, it's the same blessing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same uh you know, gift gift mix.

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<v Speaker 2>It's everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, there's different talents, of course, right, there's human talents,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's there's there's a measuring of of of of

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<v Speaker 1>those things, I'm sure, But in terms of God's power

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<v Speaker 1>and his promises and everything else, every Christian is equipped.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's the priesthood of every believer where you are

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<v Speaker 1>just as qualified and you are just as gifted to

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<v Speaker 1>uh be the man or woman of God as as

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So so this.

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<v Speaker 4>Young man going in having the courage, it takes a

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<v Speaker 4>certain amount of guts to do that. And there's a

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<v Speaker 4>thing recently, I had a meeting with some pretty prominent

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<v Speaker 4>faith leaders in our community. Right, famous guys built great churches,

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<v Speaker 4>and for a number of years in Southeast Michigan, there

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<v Speaker 4>was this very robust network of church leaders and pastors cooperating.

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<v Speaker 3>Together doing some really great things.

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit, So we kind of convene this group

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<v Speaker 4>to say, hey, how do we rebuild this? This is important.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really useful to me. Well, you know, when

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<v Speaker 4>a tribe, and all of a sudden, these guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Brought me in.

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<v Speaker 4>But beyond that, we were doing something special across denominational lines, right,

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<v Speaker 4>It was really amazing. So we're talking about how do

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<v Speaker 4>we rebuild that? And the guys got super excited. They

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<v Speaker 4>full of vision, just imagining. But you're talking guys late sixties,

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<v Speaker 4>early seventies sitting at the table. So there was me,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in his forties. We're the two youngest guys

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<v Speaker 4>do we recombine all of our networks and how do

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<v Speaker 4>we you know, help develop and train, start and strengthen

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<v Speaker 4>churches together all this kind of stuff, one of the guys,

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<v Speaker 4>very wisely at the end, said this is great, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think we should do it unless But I don't

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<v Speaker 4>a plan to hand it to the next generation. This

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<v Speaker 4>have a plan to hand it off. We all just

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<v Speaker 4>running this thing six or seven years from now. We

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<v Speaker 4>have to have a plan. So we started talking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I think you've heard this before. Most

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<v Speaker 4>people have the how to train or develop a future leader.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there's kind of it's a quadrant, right, leadership quadrant?

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<v Speaker 4>So I do you watch? And then I do you help?

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<v Speaker 4>And then you do I help, and then finally you

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<v Speaker 4>do I watch?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Was Elishah capable of making this announcement?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, even in his advanced age. This is a guy

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<v Speaker 4>who rolled up his coat, smacked the river, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure he could have gone and delivered this, But

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<v Speaker 4>in this moment, this is that I'm going to send

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<v Speaker 4>you out. I'm going to trust you to be able

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<v Speaker 4>the So he was a prophet, he wasn't a student.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a young prophet. So here's a guy who's gone

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<v Speaker 4>through the development, the training. He certainly has a calling

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<v Speaker 4>time to ever do anything spiritual. But this is the

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<v Speaker 4>time where Alishis says, I'm going to send you. You go

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<v Speaker 4>by yourself. I don't need to do this one. And

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<v Speaker 4>there's something powerful about a leader having raised up others

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to send them. The sign of success,

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<v Speaker 4>I think is not the older I get now, the

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<v Speaker 4>more I think this is true, it's not what I achieve,

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<v Speaker 4>it's what I set up to go beyond me.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>And so, hey, Israel's going to need profits after Alisha's gone,

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<v Speaker 4>And here's a capable young man. You can go and

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<v Speaker 4>speak very dangerous words to very powerful people, right, And.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what he's doing. I love what he's doing here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really really wise.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's important for us to learn how to

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<v Speaker 4>do that with our own kids, the other young people

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<v Speaker 2>That's what that is. And uh and and this was

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<v Speaker 2>this it's a wonderful thing.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could picture a square the top of the square,

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<v Speaker 1>right and then the first side, second side, third side,

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<v Speaker 1>next time I'm gonna do the same thing. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help me. Next time you're gonna take the lead, but

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<v Speaker 2>Do I'm gonna watch, but I'm still there right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, there there's a there's a uh there's like D one,

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<v Speaker 1>D two, D three, D four that's what they call that.

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<v Speaker 2>And the part that I like.

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<v Speaker 1>Is is that as a as a as you develop

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<v Speaker 1>as a leader, the first square they call it unconscious

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<v Speaker 1>unconscious incompetence, oh right, right, and so it's it's in

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<v Speaker 1>other words, like you're incompetent, but you don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know it yet, right, and then tons of confidence. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do this. Yeah, you just don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So The first side is called unconscious incompetence, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the second side of the square is conscious incompetence.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now you know, now you know.

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<v Speaker 2>What you don't know, and now you're like, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>mad at this.

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<v Speaker 4>And sometimes that can freeze people where they don't want

433
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<v Speaker 4>to go forward to it, yes, because they discovery not

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<v Speaker 4>good at the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's a third side where you actually hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>make it, where you have conscious competence, where you're like,

438
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<v Speaker 1>now you're like, oh my goodness, now I understand that

439
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<v Speaker 1>I've grown in this area.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and then and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then but you have to still think about it. You

442
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<v Speaker 4>still got to do the math in your head. You

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<v Speaker 4>still got to yes, right, you still got to do

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<v Speaker 4>the work of it. It's still you're not quick at

445
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<v Speaker 4>it yet, You're you're you're you're getting where you can

446
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<v Speaker 4>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, But yeah, well, this is the journeys every This

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<v Speaker 1>is the journey of every leader. And then and then

449
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<v Speaker 1>you finally arrive and this is supposed to be you

450
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<v Speaker 1>finally get to the place to where you're so good

451
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<v Speaker 1>at it that you don't even realize how good you are.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that is called in unconscious competence. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And and so when you're so good at something, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't even realize like you need to pass that knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>on because because you've gotten so good a you don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think about it anymore. Right, And that's when you

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<v Speaker 1>need to take on a new.

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<v Speaker 4>For listeners, maybe the best one that they can think

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<v Speaker 4>of is when they every little kid thinks they can drive.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I could do it. I watch my mom do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I can do it. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you go to driver's training, you oh, this is oh,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not a very good driver. Right now, you're driving

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<v Speaker 4>fifteen miles an hour down the road. You're fading to

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<v Speaker 4>the right, fading the left, right, all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>But then you learn keep your hands at ten and

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<v Speaker 4>two you learn to, you know, gradually press the accelerator,

468
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<v Speaker 4>gradually press the brake, anticipating two cars, lanks, all that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of stuff. Right you start and so you're consciously

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<v Speaker 4>driving with the rules of the road. And during that time,

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<v Speaker 4>those are you that are parents. You've got your sixteen

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<v Speaker 4>year olds or fifteen year olds sit in the back

473
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<v Speaker 4>seat telling you how you're making all the mistakes driving.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, right, you.

475
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<v Speaker 4>Shouldn't enter that an intersection so so late that it

476
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<v Speaker 4>was almost red right, and they start telling all the

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<v Speaker 4>rules of the road because they're consciously thinking about they

478
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<v Speaker 4>have a certain amount of competence. They're consciously thinking about

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<v Speaker 4>it all the time time, and all the rules all

480
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<v Speaker 4>the time. And then now you just drive, right, you're

481
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<v Speaker 4>not consciously thinking about every single detail of driving.

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<v Speaker 3>You just drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you're good at it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you got good at it, and that that's kind

485
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<v Speaker 4>of the same thing. That is the order. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of times of getting good at anything,

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<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of times people quit when they

488
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<v Speaker 4>find out they're not very good at the thing, or

489
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<v Speaker 4>they quit when it just seems like a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Of work, you know, and it's too soon.

491
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<v Speaker 4>If you just keep going, eventually you just be able

492
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<v Speaker 4>to do it because you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, you know, it's it's a great it's those

494
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<v Speaker 1>are great things to pull from this very obscure passage, right,

495
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<v Speaker 1>this announcement that happens. You know, there's probably more sermons

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<v Speaker 1>in there somewhere, oh.

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<v Speaker 3>The right time. Yeah, Like, for instance, I've just moved

498
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<v Speaker 3>by the fact that he sends a young prophet, he

499
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<v Speaker 3>doesn't do it himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And it's and those are great, Those are great

501
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<v Speaker 1>sermons that are found in there. But also what about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that sometimes God gives you a plan for

503
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<v Speaker 1>your life that's very different than the plan that you

504
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<v Speaker 1>planned out right, So I'm sure that that Commander Jehu

505
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<v Speaker 1>had his whole life a pageant, right, and all of

506
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<v Speaker 1>a sudden the Word of God comes along and says,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, God comes along basically and says, guess

508
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<v Speaker 1>what my plans for your life are going to determine

509
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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your life.

510
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<v Speaker 2>And it looks radically.

511
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<v Speaker 1>Different than how you thought your life was going to go, right,

512
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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes that's what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>God calls us to do certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get invited into certain things, like you know,

515
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<v Speaker 1>like your life change when you got introduced to the

516
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<v Speaker 1>organization that you're so connected with now tti, yeah right now,

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<v Speaker 1>did it drastically one hundred percent change? No? But I

518
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<v Speaker 1>would say it altered significantly, yeah, yeah, right, And so

519
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<v Speaker 1>I would say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there are things in our lives that come our way.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>There were so many things that was preparing me for

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<v Speaker 4>this role. Yeah yeah, yeah, and different opportunities that I

524
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<v Speaker 4>kept saying yes to that I could have but I

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<v Speaker 4>while those opportunities and those preparations were happening, I had

526
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<v Speaker 4>no concept what was coming. But man, I'm glad I

527
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<v Speaker 4>went through all that other development before, you know, so

528
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<v Speaker 4>I was ready for this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's true, right, It's it's it's almost like

531
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<v Speaker 2>meeting your your spouse, uh, you know, in the supermarket,

532
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<v Speaker 2>not knowing it's your spouse. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>There are just moments in our lives where God has

534
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<v Speaker 1>a plan and we don't realize it in the moment,

535
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<v Speaker 1>but it's like, oh, our entire future is going to

536
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<v Speaker 1>be affected. And and I picked the spouse thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is, sometimes God has a plan. When we

538
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<v Speaker 1>were talking about kingdom things, right, kingdom things, God has

539
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<v Speaker 1>a plan for our lives. Uh. And and and we

540
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<v Speaker 1>didn't we were not even necessarily ever imagine it. We

541
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<v Speaker 1>don't know it's coming. But then all of a sudden,

542
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<v Speaker 1>that's just the way it plans out. And and we

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<v Speaker 1>think to ourselves looking back, we're like, wow, who would

544
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<v Speaker 1>have ever thought that this is where I was going

545
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<v Speaker 1>to be? But you know what, God knew it all along,

546
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<v Speaker 1>and he brought it my way, and I just I

547
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<v Speaker 1>prayed about it. I was ambushed by the spirit of

548
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<v Speaker 1>God who said this is where your life is going

549
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<v Speaker 1>to go, and uh, and it's and it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Always better, isn't it. It's always better.

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<v Speaker 1>We may not prefer at times, but we look back

552
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<v Speaker 1>and say, okay, this is better for me because hey, God,

553
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<v Speaker 1>God's way is is always the better way. So all right, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that's our time, so we will see you next time

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<v Speaker 1>on the Bible guys.

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