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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris. Today, I just want to do the very best

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<v Speaker 2>we can do, you know what, go after it today.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna shoot for mediocrity, but I'm with you, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>With me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna elevate my game.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're gonna give it all we got today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and today we're actually gonna launch directly into one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite segments that never gets old for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay me either. I like these ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do who's most likely?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's most likely? So all we have to do is

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<v Speaker 1>just just immediately say is it me or you?

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll see if we Okay, you go first, you

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<v Speaker 2>go first. I'm going to just defer to you this week,

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<v Speaker 2>oh this whole week, the week who's most likely to

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<v Speaker 2>get scammed by a very polite scammer? Ooh, what's telling me?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? I think? So?

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<v Speaker 1>How come?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I always overpay in the markets whenever you have

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<v Speaker 2>to negoti not always, but a lot of times. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>how about you.

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<v Speaker 1>But is that is that different than a scammer?

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<v Speaker 2>Though they're scamming me. It's worth ten cents and I'd

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<v Speaker 2>pay three dollars for it. It's kind of a scam. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, what are you thinking? Like a phone scammer

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<v Speaker 2>or like a like an email.

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<v Speaker 1>Stammer and email and phones?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah yeah, I never give into those.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, me neither. Yeah, but but you're right, there

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<v Speaker 1>are different scams, right right, So yeah, okay, let's go

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<v Speaker 1>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't you get your didn't you get your your passport stolen?

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 1>I did? That was definitely a scam.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I didn't get scammed in conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but the applied scammer. Those guys were faking like

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<v Speaker 2>they were drunk and fell on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, okay, what a terrible memory.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's most likely to try a new hobby and become

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<v Speaker 2>unreasonably obsessed within twenty four hours?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, well you're at it, Why don't you give me

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<v Speaker 1>a paper cut?

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<v Speaker 2>And port Lemons said, so, who's most likely to try

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<v Speaker 2>a new hobby and become unreasonably obsessed within twenty four hours?

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<v Speaker 2>That that is me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is you.

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<v Speaker 2>I am an enthusiast and through Yes, I find a

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<v Speaker 2>new thing, I get super excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think I've ever done that. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that I've found something new and thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't stop doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>I love new things. I love doing a new thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I've never done before. I'd love discovering new things,

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<v Speaker 2>dumb stuff too, right, And then it's funny. I'll go

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time and not do a thing and

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<v Speaker 2>then rediscover it, and then that's all I do for

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<v Speaker 2>a while too. So even like old things, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>just keep like I have friends who do, like they

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<v Speaker 2>have the same rhythm all week every week. They just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of do, oh, it's Thursday, Taco Tuesday, right kind

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<v Speaker 2>of people. And I'm just not that person. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have that almost perpetual rhythm of most things. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing a thing, I do all that thing. Like

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<v Speaker 2>when it's hunting season, I'm just thinking about hunting. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to hunt. During the summer, I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to grill. I just want to grill right right now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little obsessed about grinning. I just got a

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<v Speaker 2>new rotisserie for my smoker. I'm super excited about all

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<v Speaker 2>I think about. So I've probably watched I'm not lying.

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<v Speaker 2>I bought the rotisserie yesterday and we're shooting this right

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<v Speaker 2>before Thanksgiving. So I'm gonna rotissery my turkey. And I've

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<v Speaker 2>watched probably twelve to fifteen videos on row tissry, and

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<v Speaker 2>I've rote tissering using rotisserie to do turkey, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I've watched probably ten more on smoking turkeys. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I've probably read forty recipes.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, getting ready for my turkey. Wow, super excited. And

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<v Speaker 2>I bought my rotisserie yesterday. I decided I want to

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<v Speaker 2>buy rotisserie three days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know what I did to prepare for my

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving meal?

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<v Speaker 2>I ask your wife, when does this start?

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<v Speaker 1>I gave Liz money, and I'm gonna ask her, Ey,

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<v Speaker 1>when's dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So that's me though, But I get really, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a real enthusiast. When I find a new thing, I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to do it and do it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I do it till I master it, and then a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of times I'm done with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Yeah, that's that's pretty amazing. Which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Liz is a very good cook.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, she is. She is very so. My my brother

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<v Speaker 2>passed away, is why why I wasn't on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>last week. My brother passed away. So, uh, Liz always

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<v Speaker 2>rushes to those emergency moments in people's lives, right, So

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<v Speaker 2>she came with and dropped off some homemade wedding soup

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<v Speaker 2>with the meatballs in it. Oh my gosh, I just

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I wanted to fight my family, keep them back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then just tit the whole because she brought in

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<v Speaker 2>a great, big pot like this, and I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to drink the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's listening to you right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Liz. It was incredible. It was like a big hug,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's awesome all right. Way, who's most likely to

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<v Speaker 1>fall asleep during a movie? They picked me. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I could ravel you in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do sleep in movies?

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on the time of the day, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would say anything after seven pm, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Out really okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm talking like, listen, you remember how I

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<v Speaker 1>remember in the height of Marvel, how excited I must

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<v Speaker 1>have been for Civil War.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was in Civil.

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<v Speaker 1>War because I want to go see nine o'clock movie.

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<v Speaker 1>And I fell asleep. That's the last like thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't fall asleep in movie theaters, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>fall asleep at home. Yeah. Yeah. So my my daughter

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<v Speaker 2>and her boyfriend went to a movie just a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days ago. Yeah, and she came back in talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the movie, and she says, and guess who fell

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<v Speaker 2>asleep before the movie started. Oh no, he fell asleep

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<v Speaker 2>during the credits and never woke up for the whole movie.

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<v Speaker 2>She knows two times. I'm like, that was an expensive,

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<v Speaker 2>expensive nap. He just laughed. Yeah, no, kids, Well that's

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<v Speaker 2>what happens when men work, because he's a hard worker man, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's all that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I think I'm gonna have to trump you

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<v Speaker 1>on that because you don't You don't realize how bad

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So you fall asleep after seven? You fall

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<v Speaker 2>asleep on movies? Yep? Okay, Well you know so many

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<v Speaker 2>movie quotes. That must mean you watch a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>movies before seven.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, that's correct. So who's most likely to wave

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<v Speaker 2>at someone who wasn't waving at them?

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<v Speaker 1>This a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>I do it too, do you? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say both of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you do it while you're driving?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I wave at everybody when I'm driving, somebody walking down

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<v Speaker 2>the street. Way what it's what we did as a

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<v Speaker 2>kid growing up. Everybody in the pier did that all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun on my bike?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No, no, no, I'm talking all the drivers. You're driving

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<v Speaker 2>down the road, you got your hand on your steering wheel,

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<v Speaker 2>you make our contact and you just wave. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>do that?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I wave at people in my neighborhood. No, no,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody on my I don't know anybody. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>those people. They're No, I'm talking in the whole subdivision,

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere I'm at. If I'm just on the street, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>walking on the street, I wave.

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<v Speaker 1>In I do. Do people ever initiate waving as they're

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<v Speaker 1>behind the wheel for you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not very often, except up where I hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the only one up up.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I hunt. If you're driving down you know, driving

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<v Speaker 2>down dirt roads too, pickup trucks coming by, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>guys will nod and wave.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that that's common. And then also like motorcyclists,

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<v Speaker 1>they wave at each other. People would jeeps they're in

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<v Speaker 1>a club.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, they're not doing it because we're driving pickup

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<v Speaker 2>trucks to doing it because we're on the same road.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and we're acknowledging each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I know. But I was also thinking of clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think dangerous men do that. They wave, right,

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<v Speaker 2>because waving was always letting you know, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>a weapon in my hand. That's where waving came from.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that, right, No, is this one of these

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<v Speaker 1>facts that you know that sounds untrue.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's true, though, it's true. So waving is I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a weapon in my hand. Shaking hands was

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<v Speaker 2>always we're making peace with no weapon in our hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of those things were, ok.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't mean that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what do they mean now? It means, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a peaceful person, and so are you. That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but nobody thinks that. Nobody thinks I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>violent person.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore it's why I'm waving. I'm not going to hurt you.

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<v Speaker 2>That is not I can imagine most people are afraid

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably gonna hurt No people.

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<v Speaker 1>People wave now because they want to be friendly, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was making a joke too. That's what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be in friendly. Okay, we should get the

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<v Speaker 2>last round.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, there's no way we.

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<v Speaker 2>Should get the get the last one.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's most likely to hold the door open for someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's way too far away?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the worst. Yeah, especially when they slowed down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you hold.

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<v Speaker 2>The door and then somebody goes, oh, where's my keys?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh oh I got Oh nope, no, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually forced myself not to open the door for

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<v Speaker 1>people who are far away. And I have to tell myself, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm off the hook. Like there's like two elderly women

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<v Speaker 1>coming into the restaurant right behind me, ladies. But I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing. I want to stick around. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking like they would almost feel bad. They'd be like,

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<v Speaker 1>I see see you just stand there. Yeah, yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, a noble beast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what. That was a fun segment because

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<v Speaker 1>Isaiah picks God.

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<v Speaker 1>He only picks one person God.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So in this uh pat this whole week, we're

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<v Speaker 2>his mercy. Yes, and here today in Isaiah chapter one,

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<v Speaker 2>and the prophet is letting them know it. But it

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<v Speaker 2>your burnt offerings of rams and the fat of fat

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<v Speaker 2>bulls and lambs and goats. When you come to worship

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<v Speaker 2>all your ceremony, Stop bringing me your meaningless gifts. The

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<v Speaker 2>incense of your offerings disgusts me. As for your celebrations

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<v Speaker 2>of the New Moon and the Sabbath, and all your

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<v Speaker 2>New Moon celebrations and your annual festivals. They're a burden

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I cannot stand them. When you lift up

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<v Speaker 2>your hands in prayer, I will not look. Though you

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<v Speaker 2>offer many prayers, I will not listen, for your hands

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<v Speaker 2>are covered with the blood of innocent victims. Wash yourselves

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<v Speaker 2>and be clean. Get your sins out of my sight.

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<v Speaker 2>Give up your evil ways, learn to do good, seek justice,

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<v Speaker 2>the rights of widows. Come now, let's settle this, says

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord. Though your sins are like scarlet, I will

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<v Speaker 2>make them as white as snow. Though they are red

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<v Speaker 2>like crimson, I will make them as white as wool.

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<v Speaker 2>If you will only obey me, you'll have plenty to eat.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you turn away and refuse to listen, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be devoured by the sword of your enemies. I the

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<v Speaker 2>Lord have spoken. I wish he was like really clear

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<v Speaker 2>and said what he was thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there's no mission jpreting that.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what he meant there. As matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know that we even have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>Right, okay, all right, everybody, thanks for tuning in. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>Guys, quit faking it, Yeah right, just get right, learn

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<v Speaker 2>to do good, seek justice, help the oppressed, defend the

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<v Speaker 2>cause of orphans, fight for the rights of widows. Confess

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<v Speaker 2>your sin, right, and then he says, and obey me,

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<v Speaker 2>and everything's going to be fine. But he said, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't want to be all about doing good,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're not all about seeking justice, and if

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<v Speaker 2>you're not all about helping the oppressed, if you're not

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<v Speaker 2>all about defending the cause of orphans and those who

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<v Speaker 2>can't take care of theirselves, and you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>fight for the rights of widows, He said, then I

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<v Speaker 2>really don't care about all of your processions and your

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<v Speaker 2>fancy robes and all your religious rituals in your holy

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<v Speaker 2>days and all that stuff. He said, that stuff's a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of junk to me, because it's only a show.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't actually change you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this very much reminds me of Jesus speaking about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the Pharisees. Yeah right, because Jesus actually I

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<v Speaker 1>think most of them, Yeah, most of them were He

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<v Speaker 1>was actually saying, like their religiosity could actually become the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that gets in the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, And it's a sort of a weird thought, especially

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<v Speaker 1>if you're brand new to the faith, to think that

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the like ritualistic even gift giving. It says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know your offerings, your meaningless gifts, they discuss me so,

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<v Speaker 1>which means like somebody here is going through the ritual

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<v Speaker 1>of giving gifts, they're going through with burnt offerings, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going through the motions of worship. So it just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it translates today for us, like it is

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<v Speaker 1>possible to go to church to sit up, stand stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>sit down, stand up, sit down, to pray, to recite,

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<v Speaker 1>or to lift your hands in worship right here in

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<v Speaker 1>the auditorium, to go to a small group, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to go through all of the motions, even reading God's

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<v Speaker 1>words sometimes right if our mind and our heart is

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<v Speaker 1>not in it, or if we're just rebellious in our spirit,

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<v Speaker 1>but to go through the motions of religiosity and to

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<v Speaker 1>think that that could actually be the thing that God

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<v Speaker 1>is saying is something that he despises. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>something that's like, it's not just meaningless he's saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>despise it because it's hypocrisy. I despise it because you're

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost like crossing the line of like mockery. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps you know, it's like going through the motions when

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<v Speaker 1>really you don't mean it, and so therefore it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's empty, it's it almost makes God angry here.

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<v Speaker 2>Or going through the motions because that's what religious people do,

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<v Speaker 2>he said. He's really saying, I'm not interested in your

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<v Speaker 2>religion if it didn't change you, if it didn't penetrate

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<v Speaker 2>into your heart, if it doesn't make you want to

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<v Speaker 2>do good and to seek justice and help the oppressed,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really not interested if it doesn't make you good.

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<v Speaker 2>Because what did Jesus say? The great commandments are love

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<v Speaker 2>God and love people. So here he says, just obey

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<v Speaker 2>me and do good and seek justice. Right, it's the same.

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<v Speaker 2>So does that mean that the ritual is bad? No,

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<v Speaker 2>if the ritual draws you closer to God. I have

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<v Speaker 2>I have a friend who converted to Anglicanism. He became

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<v Speaker 2>his life, the frenetic life. He was living all these

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<v Speaker 2>things and he just found this holy experience and he

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<v Speaker 2>feels closer to God in the ritual. He feels closer

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<v Speaker 2>to God in you know, the church building he's in

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<v Speaker 2>is these high, soaring ceilings and stained glass, and this

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feel like a holy place. He feels close

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<v Speaker 2>to God there. But man, this guy is six days

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<v Speaker 2>a week out there serving the homeless, taking care of

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<v Speaker 2>of widows, helping plant churches, sharing the gospel, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just helping pulling people off out of the gutter kind

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<v Speaker 2>of life. And so I don't think that displeases God

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<v Speaker 2>that this man enjoys the ritual. The ritual makes him

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<v Speaker 2>feel closer to God. Right, So that's not bad. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not what God's saying. God's saying, if it doesn't change you,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care about it. Right right now, he also

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<v Speaker 2>commanded it, right, He's the one who commanded the sacrifice

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<v Speaker 2>of Rams. He's the one who commanded the gift, the giving.

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<v Speaker 2>one who commanded the Sabbath. When you get into Malachi,

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<v Speaker 2>he's mad at them for not following the Sabbath. You

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<v Speaker 2>get into Jeremiah, he's mad at them about the Holy days. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So God expected them to obey. God expected them to

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<v Speaker 2>do the religious things, but he wanted their heart. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 2>if the heart wasn't there, I really don't care about

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<v Speaker 2>the ritual, is what he's saying. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, stop the ritual and only give me your heart.

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<v Speaker 2>God saying, obey me with all of your heart. And

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<v Speaker 2>part of that obedience was the ritual that was expected

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<v Speaker 2>of them. So in this though, I love it when

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<v Speaker 2>he says, come, let's settle. This says the Lord. Though

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<v Speaker 2>your sins are like scarlet, I will make them as

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<v Speaker 2>white as snow. And the note here for Isaiah one

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<v Speaker 2>to eighteen in the Life Application Study Bible says, scarlet

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<v Speaker 2>and crimson are references to a deep red, permanent dye,

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<v Speaker 2>the dark of which was virtually impossible or remove from clothing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they didn't have all the things we have today, right, bleach.

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<v Speaker 2>The stain of sin is equally permanent except for one remedy.

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<v Speaker 2>God's grace is the only cleansing agent that can remove

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<v Speaker 2>sin stained from our lives, as he promised to do

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<v Speaker 2>for the Israelites. We don't have to go through life

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<v Speaker 2>permanently tainted from the effects of sin. God's word assures

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<v Speaker 2>us that if we are willing and obedient, Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 2>who paid for our sins, will forgive and remove our

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<v Speaker 2>most indelible stains. Well, you ask him to make you clean.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about that. God doesn't expect us to walk

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<v Speaker 2>around with a scarlet letter on us all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>right Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's also something else here in my Transformation Bible

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<v Speaker 1>Study Notes. It says Isaiah didn't stop with the diagnosis,

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<v Speaker 1>but also gave the prescription because he wanted Judah to

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<v Speaker 1>be a righteous people. And he says good. The word

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<v Speaker 1>settle in this verse can when he says, come, let's

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<v Speaker 1>settle this, and verse eighteen, it actually means to decide

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<v Speaker 1>a case in court. Here, however, instead of pronouncing judgment,

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<v Speaker 1>the judge offered pardon, so settling would be an actual sentence, right, come,

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<v Speaker 1>let's settle this. And what he's saying is this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is God's judgment, which is I'm going to make

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<v Speaker 1>your sins as.

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<v Speaker 2>We banging the gavel.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, Yeah, that's pretty it's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Warren Were's b notes. Right, is the editor of that. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that Study Bible. Yeah, the Transformation Study Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of my favorites also, and he's the Warren Weiersby.

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<v Speaker 2>He's in heaven now, but man, he's one of my

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<v Speaker 1>That's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that is true, let's settle this that I

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<v Speaker 2>think the Hebrew word is it's a court word, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a legal word, right, right, Like we would say, let's

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<v Speaker 2>settle up right, right, let's bring it to zero, no

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<v Speaker 2>more debt. That's that's what's talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's settle.

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<v Speaker 2>That's great. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and uh, you know I I also love the

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<v Speaker 1>times what happens is is, you know, we experience the

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<v Speaker 1>full measure of sin in our lives. You know, so

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<v Speaker 1>we have the earthly consequences, We have our our relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with our heavenly Father and our faith which is damaged.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in a lot of cases, we you know,

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<v Speaker 1>set ourselves back in a lot of ways, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, our reputations, our relationships, all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have we feel the full weight of sin.

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<v Speaker 1>But then we go to God, we repent, we turn

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<v Speaker 1>the other way, We confess. And the work confess means

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<v Speaker 1>literally to agree with God. Right, So it doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>mean you have to say it out loud. The work confessed.

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<v Speaker 1>It means to agree to turn from to agree God

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<v Speaker 1>this is bad. So we confess with our sins. We

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<v Speaker 1>agree with God that they're wrong, and we turn away

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<v Speaker 1>from them well to carry around guilt for our wrongdoings.

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<v Speaker 1>Guilt can be a healthy thing, but guilt has its

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<v Speaker 1>one job, and our one job of guilt is to

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<v Speaker 1>is to what I want to say, is to point

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<v Speaker 1>you in the right direction of repentance.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right, right, right, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Guilt's job, and so guilt, conviction, all of those things

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<v Speaker 1>are healthy when they're not easy, but they're healthy if

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<v Speaker 1>they point you in the right direction. But once guilt

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<v Speaker 1>has done its job, it is time for us to

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<v Speaker 1>release the guilt, which is why we can claim the

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<v Speaker 1>promises of the East and the West and in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>Crimson going as white as snow, because God doesn't intend

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<v Speaker 1>us to live in guilt. Right. But a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever met somebody they just put themselves down

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<v Speaker 1>and they beat themselves up because they want to wear

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<v Speaker 1>gill is a badge of honor, right, and they feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're like, oh, they just put themselves down.

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<v Speaker 2>Love to beat themselves. I'm just nothing but dust. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a horrible human.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not worthy. You know, nobody's like me. Blah,

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and I deserve it, and you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's right. Anybody who says that I don't deserve it, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not the center of the story. Jesus and

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<v Speaker 2>he's so good. So let's celebrate how good Jesus is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, see the center of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So if you want to beat yourself all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've got some friends theologically who just every beat

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<v Speaker 2>yourselves up every yeah, every word that they talk about

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<v Speaker 2>whenever they talk about this, Well, I'm just a worm.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't deserve it. I'm a horrible person. Okay, we

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<v Speaker 2>all are, we're all sinners, we're all less than if

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<v Speaker 2>it's all about us. But it's not all about us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all about him. He's the center of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the hero. So let's let him be the hero.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's celebrate the fact that he literally Psalm forty,

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<v Speaker 2>he lifted me up out of the myrie pit and

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<v Speaker 2>he set my feet on a solid rock. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay for me to celebrate that God did a

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<v Speaker 2>good thing. I didn't deserve it, but he did it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank God for it, and let's celebrate him for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have to walk around. If he decided to

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<v Speaker 2>clean me off whom I'd go ahead and keep telling people.

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<v Speaker 2>But you should have seen how dirty I was in

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<v Speaker 2>my heart. I still am really dirty, right right? How

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<v Speaker 2>about just let him clean us off and be clean? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. I just it's a frustrating thing. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>So then there's this thing. It comes up a few

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<v Speaker 2>times Isaiah, it comes up in Ecclesiastes. It comes up

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<v Speaker 2>in Micah, where he says something like this, learn to

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<v Speaker 2>do good, seek justice, help the oppressed. In the Book

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<v Speaker 2>of Proverbs, it talks about how God expects us to

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<v Speaker 2>stand up for the oppressed. Matthew chapter twenty five, Jesus says,

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of all time, we will be judged.

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<v Speaker 2>We will be measured by this our rewards, and aavan

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<v Speaker 2>will hinge on, giving a cup of cold water in

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus name, clothing the naked, serving orphans and widows, visiting

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are in prison, giving food to hungry people,

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<v Speaker 2>and visiting the sick, and those kinds of things. In

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<v Speaker 2>Isaiah or in Ecclesiastes, he says, love, do justly, love mercy,

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<v Speaker 2>walk humbly with your God. That's what he says, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So this theme, you're trying to figure out what God

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<v Speaker 2>wants from you as far as the lifestyle of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of all comes down to the same kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of things. God wants us to work towards justice. God

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<v Speaker 2>wants us to care about people who can't defend themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why he's talking about orphans and widows. Here to

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<v Speaker 2>seek to do good and then he'll reward us for

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<v Speaker 2>those things. And I was thinking about a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's a friend of yours too. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a vice president of two different fortune five hundred companies.

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<v Speaker 2>He came to faith late later in life. Feels like

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<v Speaker 2>he wasted a big chunk of his life. Kind of

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<v Speaker 2>was down on himself for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Him today, by the way, like.

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<v Speaker 2>No big purpose. And then we wind up going out

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<v Speaker 2>and working out in the bush. He got a passion

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<v Speaker 2>for trying to help people who didn't have good water.

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<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, now he's trying to do good.

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<v Speaker 2>That this light came on, and he's trying to figure

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<v Speaker 2>out how to raise money to dig wells. And he

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<v Speaker 2>helped do some of that. And then we had an

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to teach him how to be a soul winner,

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<v Speaker 2>how to share the gospel, how lead people Jesus. He

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<v Speaker 2>got on fire with that. He just wanted to tell everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>He started going to people who were hopeless without Christ

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<v Speaker 2>and sharing the Gospel with them. And then he was

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<v Speaker 2>reading Matthew twenty five where he says, hey, go and

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<v Speaker 2>visit the prisoners. And he came to me. He said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>who at our church is serving the people? And we

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<v Speaker 2>have a really big jail in our county. Who's serving

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<v Speaker 2>the people in the county jail? I said, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>currently have anybody. He said, I want to start that ministry.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's the chaplain at the jail with over a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand inmates and serving. And if you talk to him,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll still tell you I'm still a sinner. He'll still

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<v Speaker 2>tell you, Man, you know, I still struggle in my life,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have so much purpose in serving other people.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this is what God's inviting you. Not only

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<v Speaker 2>is he asking you to do good because you're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a good person, but my experience is when

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<v Speaker 2>I watch people who step out and decide to do

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<v Speaker 2>these things help the oppressed defend, Like right now, the

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<v Speaker 2>defending the cause of orphans and that kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>with transform One. For you, what a passion project that

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<v Speaker 2>is for you. You find your passion when you start

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<v Speaker 2>doing the things God tells you to do. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know very many people who find their passion

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<v Speaker 2>in religious ritual, not many, But man, you find your

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<v Speaker 2>passion when you decide you're going to do good, seek justice,

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<v Speaker 2>help the oppressed. And so he's not just inviting us

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<v Speaker 2>to be good boys and girls, that is what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say. He's inviting us into his mission. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's something just powerful about that, exciting about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I email our friend because I gave him a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of recommendation for somebody who wanted to assist him with

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<v Speaker 1>the jail ministry.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good, Yeah, Yeah, he's trying to build that team

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<v Speaker 2>right now, right, He's trying to build up a team,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's really cool. Hey, well, hey, that is our

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<v Speaker 1>time for suret And so hopefully we'll see tomorrow on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys,