Kara Hardin is a mental health educator and clinician who works at the intersection of mental health and performance as CEO of The Practice Lab. She specializes in the complicated ways that mental health drives performance and how it shows up at work. She's a former practicing corporate and securities lawyer and holds a Master’s degree in Counseling Psychology from the University of St. Thomas (Minnesota) and a Juris Doctor from the University of Toronto, Faculty of Law.
We talk about:
- Going from corporate lawyer to running a private psychotherapy practice
- Working with high performers she calls "strivers" -- people who are pushing to be and do better
- Finding meaning at work, even when "marketing isn't saving the world"
- The balance between being burnout and being "crispy" and how much work stress is OK
- Why she puts her phone in the closet from Friday to Monday - and why she's looking into getting a landline (!)
- The myth of comparative suffering
- Regulating your body
- Why state dictates your story
- How very few things require our immediate attention
- And more (you're going to love this episode I know it)
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