Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal

In a world where we’re always on, always attuned to the constant buzz of notifications and glued to the never ending scroll, it’s no wonder that overstimulation and burnout are on the rise. Globally, people have an of average 6 hours 58 minutes of screen time per day (according to the Average Screen Time Stats 2023) and when you look at an entire week that’s over 46hrs, almost two whole days a week, spent on devices - which is pretty mind blowing. But what kind of impact is this time spent on the digital hamster wheel having on our focus, motivation and overall health? How do we block out the noise and focus on what really matters to be happier and healthier people. Today I’m joined by Hector Hughes. Hector is the co-founder of Unplugged who provide digital detoxes at minimalist, off-grid cabins in nature across the UK to help the always-on, switch off. In the episode, we’ll talk about how Hector started his business after overcoming burnout, all things digital detox and how important it is to unplug in our increasingly digital dependent world, what the consequences are if we don’t and a few hacks for developing a healthier relationship with tech. Enjoy!

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Season 6 Episode 8

00:00 Intro 
01:16 Book
04:18 Your experience with burnout 
07:01 What are the signs of burnout 
18:05 3 types of burnout 
25:07 Struggling to have feelings 
32:20 Trauma and psychosexual therapy 
36:06 What if you just turned down your fear 
46:06 Daily challenges to self-worth 
50:40 Experiencing a silent retreat
53:54 Meditation practice
58:49 Overstimulation and developing self-awareness 
01:05:21 Eye opening moments from the retreat 
01:13:22 Taking the space and time matters
01:21:18 How Unplugged cabins work 


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What is Deep Dive with Ali Abdaal ?

Dr Ali Abdaal is the world’s most followed productivity expert and author of Feel-Good Productivity, the brand new book that reveals why the secret to productivity isn’t discipline, it’s joy. In his podcast, Deep Dive, Ali sits down with inspiring creators, thinkers, entrepreneurs and high performers to help listeners build lives that they love.

Ali’s cheerful style, positive approach, and well-researched content have made him a trusted voice when it comes to productivity. The internet means that we have access to more knowledge and information than ever before - but it can also be overwhelming. So, Ali and his expert guests focus on simple, scientifically proven, and actionable steps you can take to make real changes in your life.

Ali’s a firm believer that happiness isn’t the result of success - in fact, happiness is the key to success in the first place. Ali made this discovery while working as a doctor in a chaotic hospital ward. In the past, hard work had been the answer to every obstacle in his life. But no amount of hard work was going to combat panic and burnout.

So, Ali dedicated himself to figuring out a new approach to productivity - one that focuses on enjoying the journey and working towards truly meaningful goals. Deep Dive, with its authentic and engaging conversations, will give you all the insights you need to do just that.