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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of The

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<v Speaker 1>Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So today in Estra chapter two, it looks like a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty extreme beauty pageant, but really it's just a divine

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<v Speaker 2>set up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah for sure, because God's in the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Yeah, So that's what we're going to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we do, we have a segment called Stump the pastor.

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<v Speaker 3>And yeah, these.

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<v Speaker 1>Are questions that are written in by people who are

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners, we assume.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is from.

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb b Okay, Hi Caleb, and Caleb has this question,

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<v Speaker 1>what was God doing before he created the universe?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, great question, Caleb.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>The answer is, whatever he wanted, that's right, and or

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<v Speaker 1>we don't no and the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, this is the weird part. And this this

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<v Speaker 2>is one of those kind of twist your brain a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So God is outside of time, yeah yeah, So what

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to do is how did he The question

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<v Speaker 2>really is because we cannot fathom, hardly, we can barely

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<v Speaker 2>comprehend the idea of no time. Right, So what you're

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<v Speaker 2>asking is how did he fill his time? That's what

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<v Speaker 2>you're asking, how did he not get bored? Right? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, especially since the concept is God always was and

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<v Speaker 1>all of eternity past and all of eternity future. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>God always was, is and will be. So the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that like his past is infinite, right, and so and

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<v Speaker 1>so before the time of creation of man. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it does blow your mind.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so there's no time. That's why Genesis chapter one,

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<v Speaker 2>verse one says in the beginninning God, So God was

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<v Speaker 2>before the beginning, right, So time time as you and

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<v Speaker 2>I experience it. And this is one of those Einstein things, relativity,

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff. Time exists for you and

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<v Speaker 2>me because we're on a rock spinning and circling a star,

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<v Speaker 2>and the star creates days and nights for us, and

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<v Speaker 2>so we measure in minutes and seconds and hours and months.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're also we grow old and die, right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>We are we are, So we're measuring our beginning and

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<v Speaker 2>our end by how many times around the sun we

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<v Speaker 2>go and how many times the planet spins.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so for us, it's a big part of our

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<v Speaker 2>life because of the sun around us before that, how

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<v Speaker 2>do you measure how do you measure time? Fifteen galaxies

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<v Speaker 2>over right or five right? So it's so the conversation

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<v Speaker 2>is time is different all throughout the universe, but with

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<v Speaker 2>God there was no time and is no time. A

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<v Speaker 2>day is a thousand years. A thousand years is as

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<v Speaker 2>a day, is what Peter tells us. But the Bible

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<v Speaker 2>say a couple things. One, he was in perfect union

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<v Speaker 2>and fellowship as the Trinity, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, so

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<v Speaker 2>everything was perfect. He didn't lack anything. But then one

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<v Speaker 2>of my favorite pastores, so I usually if I sign

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<v Speaker 2>all the other day we had a lady ask us

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<v Speaker 2>to sign her bible, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, And I

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<v Speaker 2>signed my Bible or her Bible, and then I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>some of my favorite verses Psalm forty one through three.

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<v Speaker 2>He lifted me up by the Marie Clay, set my

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<v Speaker 2>feet on a rock, give me a new song. So

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<v Speaker 2>I love that. The other passage excuse me that I

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<v Speaker 2>often will sign is Ephesians chapter one, And in Ephesian

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<v Speaker 2>Chapter one it says it was the whole chapter. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I always forget the first number, so I have to

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<v Speaker 2>look him up.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's the passage where he says, it was always

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<v Speaker 2>God's plan before the beginning of the world to adopt

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<v Speaker 2>you to become his children. It's very own. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just kidding.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know. I have it here, I have

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<v Speaker 2>it here, let me see I'm right. Yeah yeah, yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>so in verse four it says he chose Jesus before

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the before the foundation of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>to be the one that will solve our sin problem.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you get a little further down and it

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<v Speaker 2>says it was always his plan to adopt us. So

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<v Speaker 2>you want to know what God was doing. He was

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<v Speaker 2>in perfect union and fellowship outside of time, so he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't trying to figure out how to fill time, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But he was in complete and total perfect union fellowship

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<v Speaker 2>with the Father's Son, Holy Spirit. And then he was

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<v Speaker 2>making plans, right. He was planning the intricacies of the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>He was planning how all of this story would work out.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd already decided that if this thing broke down into sin,

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus would be the one that would come and pay

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<v Speaker 2>the price. He'd already chosen you. He had a plan

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<v Speaker 2>for you, specifically and so what was God doing before time?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. He was planning on you, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>planning on rescuing you.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked the I like the illustration of dragging the

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube video. So the idea of like when we watch

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<v Speaker 1>a video, there's that there's that little red dot on

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<v Speaker 1>the bottom, and if you grab the video and you

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<v Speaker 1>could move it forward and you can move it back

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth. Uh, you know start started the point

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<v Speaker 1>of the story that you want. That's God outside of time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have to be limited by by the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>watching the video of no controls, right, So yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good illustration to help us understand. So, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>great question, Caleb. And if you are listening and you

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<v Speaker 1>would love to write in a question.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, you know, I've always wandered this.

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<v Speaker 1>Please send us an email at info at the Bible

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<v Speaker 3>W would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very fantastic, you know, talking about great.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I was going to say, speaking of time, it's

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<v Speaker 1>time for a beauty.

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<v Speaker 2>Fathhet that's even better.

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<v Speaker 1>That's better.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's go with that one.

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<v Speaker 3>What time is it? It's time for beauty pageants.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so its talking about beauty pageants. In Esther chapter two,

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<v Speaker 2>it says, but after Xerxes Anger had subsided, he began

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about bash Dan, what he had done and the

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<v Speaker 2>decree he had made. Remember, they can't they can't revoke

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<v Speaker 2>the laws of the Means and Persians if the king

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<v Speaker 2>signs it. He signed it when he was drunk. Now

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<v Speaker 2>he regrets it.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was the same thing that they tricked Darius

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<v Speaker 2>Then, so he's regretting what he did right here, which

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<v Speaker 2>how many people have that story after a long party,

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Let me think you regret something at a party.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even even a king after after long seven days

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<v Speaker 2>of drinking, regrets his decisions. So his personal attendance suggested,

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<v Speaker 2>let us search the empire to find beautiful young virgins

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<v Speaker 2>for the king. But the king appoint agents in each

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<v Speaker 2>province to bring these beautiful young women into the royal

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<v Speaker 2>harem at the fortress of susa Hegai, the King's eunuch

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<v Speaker 2>in charge of the harem, will see that they are

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<v Speaker 2>all given beauty treatments. After that, the young women whom

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<v Speaker 2>most young woman who most pleases the king will be

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<v Speaker 2>made queen instead of Ashti. This advice was very appealing

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<v Speaker 2>At that time, there was a Jewish man in the

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<v Speaker 2>He was from the tribe of Benjamin, who was a

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<v Speaker 2>from Jerusalem to Babylon by King Nebukinezer. This man had

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<v Speaker 2>a very beautiful and lovely young cousin, Hadasa, who was

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<v Speaker 2>also called Esther. When her father and mother died, Mordecai

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<v Speaker 2>adopted her into his family and raised her as his

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<v Speaker 2>own daughter. As a result of the king's decree, Esther,

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<v Speaker 2>along with many other young women, was brought to the

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<v Speaker 2>hegae Eye's care. Hegyaye was very impressed with Esther and

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<v Speaker 2>treated her kindly. He quickly ordered a special menu for

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<v Speaker 2>her and provided her with beauty treatments. He also assigned

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<v Speaker 2>her seven maids, especially chosen from the King's palace, and

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<v Speaker 2>he moved her and her maids into the best place

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<v Speaker 2>in the harem. Esther had not told anyone of her

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<v Speaker 2>nationality and family background because Mordecai had directed her not

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<v Speaker 2>to do so. Every day, Mordecai would take a walk

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<v Speaker 2>Esther what was happening to her. Before each young woman

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<v Speaker 2>was taken to the king's bed, she was given the

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<v Speaker 2>prescribed twelve months of beauty treatments, six months with oil

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<v Speaker 2>of myrrh, followed by six months with special perfumes and ointments.

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<v Speaker 2>king's palace, she was given her choice of whatever clothing

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<v Speaker 2>or jewelry she wanted to take from the harem. That evening,

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<v Speaker 2>she was taken to the king's private rooms, and the

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<v Speaker 2>next morning she was brought to the second harem, where

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<v Speaker 2>the king's wives lived. There she would be under the

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<v Speaker 2>care of Goosh Gods, the king's unit in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>the concubines. She would never go to the king again

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<v Speaker 2>unless he had especially enjoyed her and requested her by name.

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<v Speaker 2>Esther was the daughter of a Baya Hail, who was

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<v Speaker 2>Mordechai's uncle, Mordecai had adopted his younger cousin Esther. When

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<v Speaker 2>it was Estra's turn to go to the king, she

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<v Speaker 2>accepted the advice a heguy in the eunuch in charge

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<v Speaker 2>and she was admired by everyone who saw her. Esther

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<v Speaker 2>was taking the king's xerxes at the royal palace in

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<v Speaker 2>early winter of the seventh year of his reign, and

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<v Speaker 2>the king loved Esther more than any of the other

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<v Speaker 2>young women. He was so delighted with her that he

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<v Speaker 2>set the royal crown on her head and declared her

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<v Speaker 2>queen instead of Ashdai their Vashdi. To celebrate the occasion,

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<v Speaker 2>he gave a great banquet in Esther's honor for all

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<v Speaker 2>his nobles and officials, declaring a public holiday for the provinces,

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<v Speaker 2>and giving generous gifts to everyone. Even after all the

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<v Speaker 2>young women had been transferred to the second Harem and

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<v Speaker 2>Mordecai had become a palace official, est continued to keep

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<v Speaker 2>in his home. Oh Will we keep reading.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it was not too many. There's not too many.

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<v Speaker 2>On one day, as Mordechai was on duty at the

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<v Speaker 2>king's gate, two of the king's eunuchs, Bigthana and Terrish,

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<v Speaker 2>who were guards at the or the king's private quarters,

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<v Speaker 2>became angry at King Xerxes and plotted to assassinate him.

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<v Speaker 2>But Mordecai heard about the plot and gave the information

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<v Speaker 2>to Queen Esther. She then told the king about it

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<v Speaker 2>and gave Mordecai credit for the report when the When

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, and.

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<v Speaker 1>We're introduced to a very very important person, which is Mordecai.

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<v Speaker 1>out that Esther is going to be the true hero here, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Esther is the one, but he's hurt confidant, he's her encourager. Yeah, yeah, he's.

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<v Speaker 1>The person behind the curtain. You know, he's turning all

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<v Speaker 1>There is no Paul with that Barnabas, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>story of Esther. There is no Esther without Mordecai. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is a pretty It again highlights just really

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<v Speaker 2>how horrible of a person's Eerxes is yeah, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>met at my queen. I sleep with another virgin every

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<v Speaker 2>bed to another day. But they these kings collected women

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<v Speaker 2>like they collected jewelry and the soldiers.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And you got to spend a year in preparation

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, And so this is what's happening. The Bible

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<v Speaker 2>does not endorse his bad behavior, no towards women or

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<v Speaker 2>towards anything. It's just telling it as it happened. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Her family, along with others, were all captives. They were

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<v Speaker 2>seventy year window when they had been hauled away. And

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<v Speaker 2>back only three years into xerxes reign and their family

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<v Speaker 2>Bible saying, Hey, this is a good thing. But God

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<v Speaker 2>makes even the worst things he can use them for good.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is what happens for her. But there's a note.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me read this because again, get yourself a good

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<v Speaker 2>it will give you either theological understanding or historical context.

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<v Speaker 2>And here it says Persian kings collected not only vast

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<v Speaker 2>This is where the whole idea of a harem came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Is from these guys. Yeah, their sole purpose was to

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<v Speaker 2>They rarely saw the king, and their lives were restricted

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<v Speaker 2>and boring. It rejected Esther would be one of many

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<v Speaker 2>girls the king had seen once and forgotten. Estra's presence

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<v Speaker 2>and beauty please the king enough that he crowned her

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<v Speaker 2>queen in place of Ashta. The queen held a more

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<v Speaker 2>influential position than a concubine, and she was given more

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<v Speaker 2>freedom and authority than others in the Harem, but even

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<v Speaker 2>as Queen, Estra had few rights, especially because she had

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<v Speaker 2>and that becomes very important in this story. Yes, she's

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<v Speaker 2>there's tremendous risk because now he has become very forceful

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<v Speaker 2>real danger coming for her. And thank God for Mordecai,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy who kind of is her stabilizing force. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>becausecouraging her. Hey, don't forget who we are and what

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm trying to think of so I think oftentimes

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<v Speaker 3>Think of my son. So my son.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to decide whether my son knows what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time. And the reason why I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>this is because oftentimes he listens to the Bible guy

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<v Speaker 1>every day did you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>Steven drives like half an hour of work. And so

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<v Speaker 1>everything else. And so sometimes he'll say, man, dad, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>a new story to me. But you know, he knows,

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<v Speaker 1>he knows a lot, right, But sometimes he'll say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>And so anyway, as you're reading this, as you're reading this,

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<v Speaker 1>is I wonder if he remembers the veggietails.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, right, right, ya hey, my queen, it's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't exactly like that. That wasn't entirely true in life.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, because Larry the Cucumber was U was xerxes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, it's been so long a lot of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of our listeners mind, and I even know about

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<v Speaker 2>old veggiet tails.

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<v Speaker 1>if you like to talk two tomatoes okay, anyway, so I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do think it's were you going somewhere with that or

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<v Speaker 2>were you just talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>What I was just going to say is actually, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>There may be people.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are listening to us saying that Esther, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mordechai is so important and Esther is going to display

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<v Speaker 1>so much courage, but they have no idea what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen next, right, And so what we have to

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<v Speaker 1>understand is is that Mordecai was a Jew, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's important because again the Jewish people were still,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in exile in this particular case, some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of them had gone back to jewsom but not all

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<v Speaker 2>of them. That's the head lives. And remember we had

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<v Speaker 2>the Persians were somewhat generous in that they would allow

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<v Speaker 1>Right and so and so Mordecai was a Jew, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he knew that Esther was a Jew. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he was that Esther was his niece, cousin, his cousin,

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<v Speaker 1>his cousin. Yeah so so so he's related to Esther,

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<v Speaker 1>who's now the queen, and nobody knows that connection and

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<v Speaker 1>none of that. But Mordecai influenced the trainer of Esther,

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<v Speaker 1>right that the person in charge of her preparations as

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<v Speaker 1>Mordecai had a sense to where he didn't want he

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<v Speaker 1>her from being chosen as a queen, right, and so

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<v Speaker 1>and it turns out that that that that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>So all of this is coming together for this, for

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then Mordecai is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>Says, Okay, Esther, you have to leverage your influence as

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<v Speaker 2>over the last several weeks, I've mentioned the idea of

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<v Speaker 2>to you here. Mordecai has told her a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell the king that you're a Jew. Now. It

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting because this guy liked her, was a hey guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and he quickly ordered a special menu for her. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>In some ways she's able to manage that part of

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<v Speaker 2>she's Jewish. And I think it's interesting because as God's people,

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<v Speaker 2>of God's people, you know, through what Jesus did. We

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<v Speaker 2>but we should be proud. The Jewish people typically we're

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<v Speaker 2>in this moment, he's saying, hey, just keep that on

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<v Speaker 2>to this powerful man. Right, it's gonna come out, she's gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's gonna have already proven. Hey, you're a man

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<v Speaker 2>to do. I'm not going to embarrass you. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to make any demands on you. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>find a way to get the food I need to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to follow my real religion. She's doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's going to earn the right. Then she brings

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<v Speaker 2>good news. Hey, King, I know this guy Mordecai who

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<v Speaker 2>works at your gates and he overheard an assassination plot.

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<v Speaker 2>So now not only does Xerxes like her, Wow, she's pretty,

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<v Speaker 2>she's also useful right as she's working for her, But

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<v Speaker 2>she still hasn't exposed who she is or where she

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<v Speaker 2>comes from. Later on, she's going to continue to do

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. She's building up this ability to make

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<v Speaker 2>this strong declaration of who she is at the right time.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's earning the right to be heard before she

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<v Speaker 2>demands to be heard to the power above her. There's

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous diplomacy in that. It's very very smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, the Bible talks a lot about that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like submitting to authorities and sometimes member in Ephesians it

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<v Speaker 1>says that we're supposed to serve the people that we

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<v Speaker 1>work for as if we're serving God.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and by the way, that changed my entire perspective

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<v Speaker 1>of bosses.

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<v Speaker 3>That I didn't like.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, I remember just thinking to myself, like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to you know, mistreat this boss, disrespect

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<v Speaker 1>this boss, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I read in Ephesians.

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<v Speaker 1>Where it says, no, no, no, you're placed under authority,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you treat them the way that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the way that Christ commands you to, it's as if

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<v Speaker 1>you're serving God. So then I remember teaching this as

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<v Speaker 1>a youth pastor to my teenagers, and I remember saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't serve our boss because of our boss. We

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<v Speaker 1>serve our boss in spite of our boss, right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we serve we serve them in spite of who they are,

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<v Speaker 1>right because because that's honoring God.

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<v Speaker 3>And so and so, you know, by submitting to.

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<v Speaker 1>Authority, not not compromising integrity and not compromising morality, but

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<v Speaker 1>by submitting to their authority, even the people who mistreat you.

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<v Speaker 1>The Boba says, you're honoring God in that way because

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<v Speaker 1>you're loving them.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't recommend anybody stay in a position where they're getting abused

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<v Speaker 1>verbally or mistreated, right, I would just say quit, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But but you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, sometimes you find yourself in a situation where you

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<v Speaker 2>can't back up and go back to Jerusalem, right, right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and so now you're in the Harem right right. So

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you're just in a situation where you feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you're and so you can honor God in any circumstance

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<v Speaker 2>like that, right, Yes, So she's winning the right to

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<v Speaker 2>be heard. But you can you can see in her

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<v Speaker 2>life that God seems to have favor on her. And

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<v Speaker 2>so even while she's you know, kind of managing the

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<v Speaker 2>information about who she is, God's blessing is on her

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<v Speaker 2>and that's evident to everybody around her. Yeah, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is just an amazing story. We're getting get ready

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<v Speaker 2>to really get into it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, so we have about a minute left. Sore share

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<v Speaker 1>with them with our listeners, what you share with me

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<v Speaker 1>about the origin of a marathon.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh yeah. So Xerxes was defeated at marathon, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where we get the marathon race from. Is that

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<v Speaker 2>the messengers that got out ahead of the Persian army

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<v Speaker 2>to warn the Greek army. They had to run the

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<v Speaker 2>twin six point seven miles or whatever that is, twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six point whatever it is, put two whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's far. Yeah, and some of them died

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. But that that's where the marathon race came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Was this this race here, so yeah, where they were

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<v Speaker 2>running to stay out ahead of the messengers were running

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<v Speaker 2>to stay out ahead of the person.

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<v Speaker 1>So this this very timeline that we're in with this

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<v Speaker 1>character and his movement of the armies and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>All that was the birth of the marathon.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and it was at marathon, and that's why the

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<v Speaker 2>marathon is a city. Yeah. Yeah, so that's why we

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<v Speaker 2>that's why we call it a marathon race.

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<v Speaker 3>That was That's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you a lot of our listeners, even our runners,

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<v Speaker 1>probably didn't even know that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you've ever seen three hundred, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>right after that that the marathon started.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey well, that's our time for this chapter, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll pick up with chapter three.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully you'll join us on the Bible gus