1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,660 Josh: So just last night meta had their meta connect event where 2 00:00:06,660 --> 00:00:09,320 Josh: they unveiled three new flagship devices at the 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,120 Josh: core of their ai hardware efforts the first 4 00:00:12,120 --> 00:00:16,020 Josh: one called the ray-ban meta gen 2s they had the oakley meta vanguard and the 5 00:00:16,020 --> 00:00:19,320 Josh: product that i think everyone's most excited about which is the meta ray-ban 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,400 Josh: display now basically what this is pair of glasses you put them on your face 7 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,660 Josh: and suddenly they have a display in one of the uh lenses that allows you to 8 00:00:27,660 --> 00:00:31,560 Josh: see all the the compute overlaid on the real world. 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,920 Josh: So Ijaz, I want to talk about that first because that seems like the most exciting 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,340 Josh: thing. Can you walk us through what exactly was announced last night with these 11 00:00:38,340 --> 00:00:39,700 Josh: cool new Meta Ray-Ban displays? 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:45,640 Ejaaz: So imagine a pair of fancy sunglasses, except it's AI. 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:52,420 Ejaaz: It has a high resolution display coupled with something called a metaneural wristband. 14 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:57,700 Ejaaz: So imagine like a wristband on your arm, something maybe akin to a Fitbit or 15 00:00:57,700 --> 00:01:02,180 Ejaaz: a Whoop, And if you make any subtle gestures with your hand or your fingers, 16 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,760 Ejaaz: it controls the display that you're looking at through your glasses. 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,020 Ejaaz: And so you might be asking, well, what am I looking at through my glasses? 18 00:01:09,180 --> 00:01:12,720 Ejaaz: Well, pretty much anything you can do with a phone. You can scroll text. 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,140 Ejaaz: You can reply to them. You can watch HD videos. 20 00:01:16,320 --> 00:01:21,340 Ejaaz: You can take photos, edit photos, and send them to your friends all in real time. 21 00:01:21,340 --> 00:01:25,480 Ejaaz: And if you're thinking, oh, this kind of sounds like Google Glass and we saw 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,700 Ejaaz: how that went, I'm afraid we've been brought into the 21st, maybe even the 22nd 23 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:34,240 Ejaaz: century here, where we have a full suite of apps. 24 00:01:34,260 --> 00:01:41,320 Ejaaz: We have a 46 megapixel camera and we have almost 18 hours of runtime. 25 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:45,360 Ejaaz: But don't take my word for it. We have a video here demonstrated by none other 26 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:51,100 Ejaaz: than Mark Zuckerberg himself when he walked onto the stage with a live demo. Check this out. 27 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:55,460 Ejaaz: So for those who are listening, he's sitting in his trailer outside of the stage 28 00:01:55,460 --> 00:01:59,520 Ejaaz: and he's wearing these glasses and a calendar event pops up, 29 00:01:59,580 --> 00:02:01,500 Ejaaz: which says, hey, you've got your keynote now. 30 00:02:01,620 --> 00:02:04,320 Ejaaz: So he's like, OK, I guess I need to go onto the stage. 31 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,360 Ejaaz: He selects a track because he wants to listen to some music whilst he walks 32 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,940 Ejaaz: onto stage. So he accesses his Spotify and he plays a song. I think it's called Enjoy the Ride. 33 00:02:13,180 --> 00:02:18,100 Ejaaz: And the music is playing through headphones that are installed into the handles 34 00:02:18,100 --> 00:02:21,100 Ejaaz: of these sunglasses. I know what you're thinking. You're thinking. 35 00:02:21,730 --> 00:02:26,130 Ejaaz: This sounds obtrusive, right? I don't want people listening to my music on the train or whatever. 36 00:02:26,270 --> 00:02:30,170 Ejaaz: It's isolated towards your own ears. So no one else hears it but you. 37 00:02:30,330 --> 00:02:35,750 Ejaaz: It's a really remarkable attempt at a new form factor of technology where you 38 00:02:35,750 --> 00:02:39,450 Ejaaz: can interact with different types of social media, music, or anything like that. 39 00:02:39,590 --> 00:02:43,670 Ejaaz: What you can see on the screen now is he's chatting live with his friends in real time. 40 00:02:44,270 --> 00:02:46,850 Ejaaz: He's saying, hey, I'm on my way. I'll be there in about 20 seconds. 41 00:02:47,030 --> 00:02:48,250 Ejaaz: A friend replies saying, okay, cool. 42 00:02:48,370 --> 00:02:52,690 Ejaaz: I'm over here. Sends him a photo of what he's seeing through his meta ray display bands. 43 00:02:52,690 --> 00:02:55,750 Josh: It's all remarkably cool um before 44 00:02:55,750 --> 00:03:00,210 Ejaaz: I go into the features josh i want to get your initial gut take is this cool 45 00:03:00,210 --> 00:03:03,230 Ejaaz: to you or is this kind of novelty cringe. 46 00:03:03,230 --> 00:03:07,890 Josh: So so throughout the presentation i feel like inside of me there were two wolves 47 00:03:07,890 --> 00:03:11,870 Josh: there's like the techno optimist part of me that really wants this to be great 48 00:03:11,870 --> 00:03:15,890 Josh: that wants to believe that this is very much the future this is here right now 49 00:03:15,890 --> 00:03:19,110 Josh: these products are incredible and then there was like the more pragmatic, 50 00:03:19,330 --> 00:03:23,690 Josh: realistic version who has been in the tech world for decades of time, who is just like, 51 00:03:24,130 --> 00:03:26,250 Josh: oh my God, this is a toy. 52 00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:28,830 Josh: This is not real. This is not a serious presentation. 53 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:33,790 Josh: This is like actually a joke. None of your demos work. Even the ones that do, the software is clunky. 54 00:03:34,110 --> 00:03:37,650 Josh: The hardware is very much version one. And at times it felt like they were advertising 55 00:03:37,650 --> 00:03:41,410 Josh: an action camera versus a real smart AI interface. 56 00:03:41,710 --> 00:03:46,330 Josh: And that to me kind of rubbed me the wrong way. So I think in terms of wanting 57 00:03:46,330 --> 00:03:47,890 Josh: progress, this is amazing. 58 00:03:48,090 --> 00:03:52,770 Josh: I am very glad that they're building in public and they are doing this in a 59 00:03:52,770 --> 00:03:56,070 Josh: way that is available to consumers starting September 30th for these glasses. 60 00:03:56,290 --> 00:04:00,950 Josh: But also, it feels like it is so early and so half-baked that even if you gave 61 00:04:00,950 --> 00:04:03,490 Josh: me one of these glasses for free, I would want to demo it, sure. 62 00:04:03,630 --> 00:04:08,690 Josh: But I'm not sure I'd actually walk around and interface with my regular life with them on. 63 00:04:09,350 --> 00:04:12,530 Josh: But there were some things that were really interesting. And I think throughout 64 00:04:12,530 --> 00:04:14,750 Josh: this presentation, there were there were signs of life. 65 00:04:14,910 --> 00:04:18,970 Josh: There were signs of hope that, OK, this very much is a new frontier that they're establishing. 66 00:04:19,210 --> 00:04:21,810 Josh: There's a lot of potential here. There's a lot of technology that's built into 67 00:04:21,810 --> 00:04:25,150 Josh: not only the glasses, but the wrist strap that we're going to talk about soon. 68 00:04:25,590 --> 00:04:28,970 Josh: And that to me was the exciting part. It was more the promise of what we're 69 00:04:28,970 --> 00:04:32,190 Josh: going to get versus what was revealed today. 70 00:04:32,550 --> 00:04:35,110 Josh: And I'm wondering, Ijaz, you seemed pretty enthusiastic about it. 71 00:04:35,130 --> 00:04:37,250 Josh: Did you have a different type of sentiment than me? 72 00:04:38,530 --> 00:04:42,230 Ejaaz: Okay, so I went through the same rollercoaster that you did, 73 00:04:42,330 --> 00:04:50,790 Ejaaz: which was incredibly pessimistic when a few of the demos that they tried to attempt live failed. 74 00:04:51,190 --> 00:04:56,070 Ejaaz: And then I realized that what they were trying to achieve here, 75 00:04:56,170 --> 00:04:59,010 Ejaaz: what they were trying to build was incredibly ambitious. And for a V1, 76 00:04:59,250 --> 00:05:01,270 Ejaaz: this was actually pretty impressive. 77 00:05:01,310 --> 00:05:05,710 Ejaaz: And I'll tell you why, right? My gut at the end of the presentation was, 78 00:05:06,410 --> 00:05:12,770 Ejaaz: maybe this isn't the coolest V1, but for the price of $799, I would buy it. 79 00:05:12,990 --> 00:05:18,050 Ejaaz: It has enough for me that I think it would be useful for me to at least try 80 00:05:18,050 --> 00:05:23,530 Ejaaz: out and maybe see what it can do. You know what it reminded me of, Josh? 81 00:05:23,790 --> 00:05:24,270 Josh: What's that? 82 00:05:24,390 --> 00:05:32,750 Ejaaz: Do you remember Steve Jobs' keynote for the iPhone 4? I was like a little teenager. 83 00:05:32,970 --> 00:05:38,490 Ejaaz: At that point but i remember him launching it and he did a live demo on stage 84 00:05:38,490 --> 00:05:42,530 Ejaaz: i think it was demonstrating uh i think it was like some kind of like new camera 85 00:05:42,530 --> 00:05:44,450 Ejaaz: feature and it flopped and, 86 00:05:45,490 --> 00:05:48,450 Ejaaz: yeah safari and potentially facetime exactly and and 87 00:05:48,450 --> 00:05:51,490 Ejaaz: it flopped in real time and that was because you 88 00:05:51,490 --> 00:05:55,710 Ejaaz: know there was like wi-fi connections or whatever and that ended up being okay 89 00:05:55,710 --> 00:06:01,210 Ejaaz: at the end of the day now i know this isn't v4 of these ray-ban uh glasses but 90 00:06:01,210 --> 00:06:06,350 Ejaaz: i feel like it we can give it a little bit of room to to kind of grow um but 91 00:06:06,350 --> 00:06:08,970 Ejaaz: the coolest part of these ai glasses josh, 92 00:06:09,630 --> 00:06:13,850 Ejaaz: isn't actually the glasses to me it's the wristband i. 93 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:14,590 Josh: Think that is 94 00:06:14,590 --> 00:06:20,230 Ejaaz: I i think that is super super cool um so to kind of dig into what the wristband 95 00:06:20,230 --> 00:06:24,910 Ejaaz: does um for the viewers it's called an EMG neural band. 96 00:06:25,070 --> 00:06:30,290 Ejaaz: It basically lets you scroll, pinch, or even write in the air, 97 00:06:30,490 --> 00:06:35,270 Ejaaz: and it transcribes straight onto the display that you have within your glasses. 98 00:06:35,650 --> 00:06:39,870 Ejaaz: And the reason why I think this is cool is this kind of like moves away from 99 00:06:39,870 --> 00:06:45,230 Ejaaz: the Nintendo Wii controller to something that is a little more accessible to 100 00:06:45,230 --> 00:06:49,110 Ejaaz: the average day-to-day person, something that is way more useful for someone. 101 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:52,670 Ejaaz: It is also a remarkable invention of technology. 102 00:06:52,910 --> 00:06:57,290 Ejaaz: Josh, do you remember when we actually spoke about the research paper that Meta 103 00:06:57,290 --> 00:07:00,110 Ejaaz: released of this neural band? I think it was like... 104 00:07:00,590 --> 00:07:01,650 Ejaaz: It feels like a while ago, but 105 00:07:01,650 --> 00:07:04,590 Ejaaz: I think it was literally only a month and a half, maybe two months ago. 106 00:07:05,050 --> 00:07:10,610 Ejaaz: When we went through that paper on our show, it was remarkable how much detail 107 00:07:10,610 --> 00:07:12,070 Ejaaz: and effort had gone into this. 108 00:07:12,190 --> 00:07:15,170 Ejaaz: It's evident that Meta had been working on this for a number of different years, 109 00:07:15,190 --> 00:07:17,370 Ejaaz: and Zuckerberg actually confirmed that on stage. 110 00:07:17,550 --> 00:07:22,650 Ejaaz: But even the slightest of gestures can be picked up by this neural wristband, 111 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:24,610 Ejaaz: and it detects muscle movement. 112 00:07:24,850 --> 00:07:29,290 Ejaaz: So it's not really kind of like checking your pulse or looking at any kind of 113 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:31,170 Ejaaz: sensory type of things. through your nerves. 114 00:07:31,290 --> 00:07:35,270 Ejaaz: It's just muscle twitches. And you might be thinking, well, I might use my hand 115 00:07:35,270 --> 00:07:38,170 Ejaaz: to do something else and it might cause the screen to do blah, blah, blah. 116 00:07:38,290 --> 00:07:41,830 Ejaaz: It's incredibly intuitive, as we've seen from some of the demos that have been 117 00:07:41,830 --> 00:07:45,510 Ejaaz: released so far. So that's the thing I'm most excited about, less so the glasses. 118 00:07:46,230 --> 00:07:49,350 Josh: Yeah, same. So let's summarize. So basically, with these glasses, 119 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:50,430 Josh: you get two things, right? 120 00:07:50,510 --> 00:07:54,930 Josh: You get the pair of wearable glasses, and then you also get this wrist strap, this EMG. 121 00:07:55,130 --> 00:07:58,730 Josh: And the way these glasses compute and they connect to the world is through a tether with your phone. 122 00:07:58,850 --> 00:08:01,930 Josh: So if your phone has connection, well, your glasses have connection as well. 123 00:08:02,030 --> 00:08:06,670 Josh: The cool thing about the EMG sensor that you talked about, I kind of want to 124 00:08:06,670 --> 00:08:10,390 Josh: walk through the technicals of it because I think a lot of people don't understand 125 00:08:10,390 --> 00:08:13,170 Josh: the difference between an interface like the Apple Watch. 126 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:16,250 Josh: If you've used a new Apple Watch, it detects if you're pinching your fingers. 127 00:08:16,810 --> 00:08:22,770 Josh: That's using muscular detection. It's not quite using the same technology that Matt is using today. 128 00:08:22,990 --> 00:08:28,230 Josh: So EMG, it stands for electromyography, and the band works by using these surface 129 00:08:28,230 --> 00:08:31,810 Josh: electromyography sensors to detect these tiny little electrical signals in your 130 00:08:31,810 --> 00:08:33,870 Josh: muscle form, which is really cool. 131 00:08:33,930 --> 00:08:38,190 Josh: So it contacts your skin, it detects the signals, and it processes it using 132 00:08:38,190 --> 00:08:40,470 Josh: this machine learning algorithm to analyze the signals 133 00:08:41,350 --> 00:08:45,230 Josh: Detect the subtle movements that allow you to interact with the actual device. 134 00:08:45,230 --> 00:08:47,390 Josh: So I was watching a few demos of people using it. 135 00:08:47,530 --> 00:08:52,510 Josh: A single tap with your pointer finger and your thumb is the select button. 136 00:08:52,650 --> 00:08:56,830 Josh: And then a double tap with your middle finger and your thumb is the back button. 137 00:08:56,950 --> 00:09:01,170 Josh: And you navigate the menus by actually moving your finger around your 138 00:09:01,170 --> 00:09:05,290 Josh: hand and simulating the actual movement that the band then understands 139 00:09:05,290 --> 00:09:08,210 Josh: and intuitively allows you to interact with the device with 140 00:09:08,210 --> 00:09:11,470 Josh: so it's this really cool companion piece to 141 00:09:11,470 --> 00:09:14,990 Josh: the glasses and i think in terms of of 142 00:09:14,990 --> 00:09:17,610 Josh: this new frontier of computing the way that we 143 00:09:17,610 --> 00:09:20,290 Josh: interact with it is really important like the last big one 144 00:09:20,290 --> 00:09:23,050 Josh: we got was multi-touch and the way you interact with glass is actually 145 00:09:23,050 --> 00:09:25,690 Josh: just with your fingers and it accepts multiple touches at once well the 146 00:09:25,690 --> 00:09:28,490 Josh: way you interact with this like ar not that 147 00:09:28,490 --> 00:09:31,430 Josh: these are ar glasses but this new like spatial world of computing 148 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:35,690 Josh: the the electro thing is like pretty freaking cool so that got me really excited 149 00:09:35,690 --> 00:09:39,650 Josh: and i think that's the thing i want to test the most is how accurate it is and 150 00:09:39,650 --> 00:09:42,970 Josh: kind of thinking about how much further they can push that because it feels 151 00:09:42,970 --> 00:09:48,070 Josh: like this technology is certainly not limited to just navigating a simple menu 152 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:50,670 Josh: but there's a lot more here for them to unpack i 153 00:09:50,670 --> 00:09:53,810 Ejaaz: Also want to bring it back to the glasses itself which is actually a pretty 154 00:09:53,810 --> 00:09:58,570 Ejaaz: impressive invention in itself the amount of technology and compute that they're 155 00:09:58,570 --> 00:10:05,010 Ejaaz: packed into what is essentially like something that is the weight of a couple of feathers is insane. 156 00:10:05,190 --> 00:10:08,570 Ejaaz: So I've pulled up a few stats here, Josh, that I want to walk through because 157 00:10:08,570 --> 00:10:12,930 Ejaaz: I know what a lot of people are thinking here, which was an initial thought that I had, which is, 158 00:10:13,410 --> 00:10:19,210 Ejaaz: if I have a high resolution display over my eyes, how am I going to interact 159 00:10:19,210 --> 00:10:20,670 Ejaaz: with the world? I'm going to walk into someone. 160 00:10:20,950 --> 00:10:23,890 Ejaaz: I'm going to knock into something. They're going to be able to see what I'm 161 00:10:23,890 --> 00:10:26,550 Ejaaz: seeing on my screen. That isn't actually the case. 162 00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:32,750 Ejaaz: The 600 by 600 pixel resolution is only located in one of the lenses. 163 00:10:32,770 --> 00:10:38,610 Ejaaz: So you can pretty much have about 85% of your view unobstructed. 164 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:44,010 Ejaaz: It's also a 20 degree field of view. So whereas you normally would see kind 165 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:47,570 Ejaaz: of like everything everywhere through a 180 perspective. 166 00:10:48,150 --> 00:10:51,870 Ejaaz: This kind of like limits you in some sense, but gives you a wide enough angle 167 00:10:51,870 --> 00:10:54,390 Ejaaz: such that you are aware of people that are walking around you, 168 00:10:54,790 --> 00:10:58,070 Ejaaz: objects that are surrounding you, can interact with things in relative perspective. 169 00:10:58,070 --> 00:11:02,450 Ejaaz: It has about 5,000 nits of brightness, which compared to the latest iPhone, 170 00:11:02,670 --> 00:11:06,350 Ejaaz: which is around 3,000 nits, I believe, it's comparably larger, right? 171 00:11:06,450 --> 00:11:10,850 Ejaaz: So this is no kind of meager effort or mediocre effort. 172 00:11:10,990 --> 00:11:16,810 Ejaaz: This is high-grade, high-resolution technology for the new age, essentially. 173 00:11:17,270 --> 00:11:21,910 Ejaaz: 2% light leakage. What this essentially means is for someone, 174 00:11:22,370 --> 00:11:25,690 Ejaaz: Let's say I'm wearing the glasses right now, Josh, and you're looking at me and you're like, 175 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,180 Ejaaz: why there's some flashing lights in Ejaz's lenses, you actually won't see that 176 00:11:30,180 --> 00:11:33,000 Ejaaz: at all because the light leakage just does not occur. 177 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:37,100 Ejaaz: It's all contained within these glasses, which is crazy because it's an open 178 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:39,940 Ejaaz: device, right? You can move the handles up and down. 179 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,880 Ejaaz: There are speakers on these handles. You would think otherwise, 180 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,320 Ejaaz: but it's super cool. And then they have microphones, speakers, 181 00:11:45,380 --> 00:11:48,000 Ejaaz: and cameras, all the usual gizmos that you would get with your phone. 182 00:11:48,180 --> 00:11:50,480 Josh: Yeah, so there's a lot of specs here. There's a lot of numbers. 183 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:52,580 Josh: I was really interested in the actual usability. 184 00:11:52,820 --> 00:11:56,200 Josh: So late last night after the presentation, I kind of I went on X and I was scrolling 185 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,340 Josh: through and seeing videos of people actually using the device and the way it's 186 00:11:59,340 --> 00:12:00,780 Josh: used seems pretty unique. 187 00:12:00,980 --> 00:12:04,420 Josh: I think the the highlight features are the resolution is actually pretty good. 188 00:12:04,780 --> 00:12:08,600 Josh: So when you are actually wearing the glasses it's not very pixelated because 189 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,060 Josh: of that 5000 nit display you can look everywhere but the sun and it will actually 190 00:12:13,060 --> 00:12:16,600 Josh: show you a bright display so you don't have to worry about going outside or 191 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,940 Josh: being in direct sunlight and in fact the lenses are transition lenses so as 192 00:12:19,940 --> 00:12:23,300 Josh: you go outside into brighter territory it may take a second to darken but once 193 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:25,340 Josh: it darkens the display will be very clear and obvious 194 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:29,960 Josh: so it seems like in terms of the actual user experience of the device it's pretty 195 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:33,520 Josh: good so long as you don't mind the limited functionality of the device and using 196 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,660 Josh: meta's ecosystem which we can probably talk about in a little bit but ijaz i 197 00:12:36,660 --> 00:12:39,820 Josh: know we have a couple demos that we want to show or maybe the lack thereof demos 198 00:12:39,820 --> 00:12:43,280 Josh: some worked some didn't which one are we going to start with here let's 199 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,800 Ejaaz: Uh let's start with the ones that actually worked. 200 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,980 Josh: Okay this one is cool I loved this one. 201 00:12:48,260 --> 00:12:51,800 Ejaaz: Exactly, yeah. So one of the coolest features from the presentation was the 202 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:57,280 Ejaaz: fact that you could make subtle gestures for writing words on any kind of platform. 203 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:03,380 Ejaaz: In this example, it's Zuckerberg writing on a kind of like very conveniently 204 00:13:03,380 --> 00:13:05,440 Ejaaz: placed pedestal, which is right next to him. 205 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,860 Ejaaz: And he's writing out words and it's appearing in actual text in his text chain 206 00:13:10,860 --> 00:13:14,360 Ejaaz: or in his WhatsApp chat that he's having with someone live on stage. 207 00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:15,860 Ejaaz: And this is all done live. 208 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:20,480 Ejaaz: So if you look at this video, So his hand is casually placed on this pedestal 209 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:27,080 Ejaaz: and he is just writing out words as if you would write in a notebook or a textbook, 210 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:30,000 Ejaaz: for example, and it appears live. 211 00:13:30,590 --> 00:13:33,390 Ejaaz: On his screen in his WhatsApp chat. And then he clicks send. 212 00:13:33,630 --> 00:13:39,010 Ejaaz: And what's interesting here is during this demo, he kind of makes the case that 213 00:13:39,010 --> 00:13:42,990 Ejaaz: whilst you're talking to a human or whilst you're listening to a human, 214 00:13:43,210 --> 00:13:44,530 Ejaaz: you might want to make notes. 215 00:13:44,530 --> 00:13:48,050 Ejaaz: You might want to interact and have a conversation with someone else. 216 00:13:48,130 --> 00:13:52,290 Ejaaz: And what he's suggesting is you can do this subtly because you can just use 217 00:13:52,290 --> 00:13:54,610 Ejaaz: your hand and this EMG Neural Band. 218 00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:59,350 Ejaaz: I don't know if I agree with that. I already get annoyed when people are wearing 219 00:13:59,350 --> 00:14:01,910 Ejaaz: AirPods in real time when I'm having a conversation with them. 220 00:14:02,050 --> 00:14:03,470 Ejaaz: I don't care if you're not listening to music. 221 00:14:03,670 --> 00:14:05,730 Ejaaz: It's kind of disrespectful in my opinion. 222 00:14:05,930 --> 00:14:09,550 Ejaaz: So I don't quite agree with that particular use case, but I think it's cool 223 00:14:09,550 --> 00:14:13,570 Ejaaz: that I don't have to type out, that I don't have to whip out my phone and tap 224 00:14:13,570 --> 00:14:16,110 Ejaaz: with my thumbs. I could just kind of make subtle gestures. 225 00:14:16,450 --> 00:14:19,730 Josh: Yeah, this was one of the few things that it rubbed me a little bit the wrong way. 226 00:14:19,810 --> 00:14:23,310 Josh: The first one being when he walked out and he kind of led the conference and 227 00:14:23,310 --> 00:14:27,790 Josh: presentation with like, hey, this is the convergence of super intelligence and hardware. 228 00:14:28,070 --> 00:14:31,150 Josh: And this is a very far cry from super intelligence and and 229 00:14:31,150 --> 00:14:33,850 Josh: using the s word to lead the presentation it felt a little 230 00:14:33,850 --> 00:14:36,810 Josh: disingenuous and not real this was the second one where okay you 231 00:14:36,810 --> 00:14:40,590 Josh: have these glasses which it's bad enough that now if 232 00:14:40,590 --> 00:14:44,250 Josh: anyone walks up to you with a pair of glasses the societal effects 233 00:14:44,250 --> 00:14:47,770 Josh: of that will be a little awkward like hey am i being recorded uh like i know 234 00:14:47,770 --> 00:14:51,190 Josh: even if you're not going to record it is meta recording and now am i going to 235 00:14:51,190 --> 00:14:54,470 Josh: be part of meta's database but in addition during this demo he pitched it as 236 00:14:54,470 --> 00:14:57,870 Josh: a multitasking device which i thought was really interesting to use the word 237 00:14:57,870 --> 00:14:59,370 Josh: multitasking when you're already 238 00:14:59,370 --> 00:15:02,230 Josh: going up against so much friction in this human-to-human interaction, 239 00:15:02,510 --> 00:15:04,670 Josh: where now not only are you going to be 240 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:08,780 Josh: Maybe perhaps recording the person across from you, but now also kind of distracted 241 00:15:08,780 --> 00:15:13,060 Josh: by this device on your face where now, oh, and not only am I barely listening 242 00:15:13,060 --> 00:15:15,800 Josh: to you, but I'm looking at this display because when you look at the display, 243 00:15:15,860 --> 00:15:18,360 Josh: your eyes kind of wander a little bit, you don't make direct eye contact. 244 00:15:18,460 --> 00:15:21,520 Josh: And you're also like, oh, I'm also kind of writing on the side and I'm doing these things. 245 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,940 Josh: And he's kind of digging himself a deeper hole by pitching it as this multitasking 246 00:15:25,940 --> 00:15:28,180 Josh: device, this intrusive device. 247 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,420 Josh: It's just, it doesn't really sit well with me in terms of how i 248 00:15:31,420 --> 00:15:34,380 Josh: want to use it or how i would suggest other people use 249 00:15:34,380 --> 00:15:37,060 Josh: it so i don't know the demos again a little weird 250 00:15:37,060 --> 00:15:39,680 Josh: but the demo was great and one of the things that he 251 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,400 Josh: bragged about was i think he said it was 30 words per minute he was able 252 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:47,220 Josh: to achieve with the actual handwriting so it creates this cool thing where there's 253 00:15:47,220 --> 00:15:50,400 Josh: this new acquired skill set you'll need to learn to engage with these devices 254 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Josh: writing being one of them and i think that's that's a fun thing it's like okay 255 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,440 Josh: cool we have this like new tool we can learn how to use it learn how to optimize 256 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,340 Josh: it learn how to extracts more value out of it but yeah a little a little weird i 257 00:16:01,340 --> 00:16:06,820 Ejaaz: Um i i just remembered that he announced a new feature with these glasses um 258 00:16:06,820 --> 00:16:10,460 Ejaaz: which was conversation focus mode. 259 00:16:10,460 --> 00:16:12,380 Josh: Which is antithetical 260 00:16:12,380 --> 00:16:16,440 Ejaaz: To the case study that he's pitching on stage right now um for those of you 261 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,940 Ejaaz: who didn't catch it it's basically like a button or a gesture that you can make 262 00:16:20,940 --> 00:16:27,740 Ejaaz: which um kind of like drowns out any other surrounding noise and amplifies the 263 00:16:27,740 --> 00:16:30,480 Ejaaz: voice of the person that's speaking in front of you. 264 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,700 Ejaaz: So let's say you're in the room with me, Josh, and I'm speaking to you and you're 265 00:16:33,700 --> 00:16:35,980 Ejaaz: like, whatever, two feet, three feet, whatever away from me. 266 00:16:36,100 --> 00:16:39,160 Ejaaz: But we're in New York, there's a lot of traffic, there's a lot of construction. 267 00:16:39,420 --> 00:16:42,880 Ejaaz: It drowns all of that out and your voice is amplified into my ear through the 268 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,260 Ejaaz: speakers in the handles. 269 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:50,740 Ejaaz: So it's kind of like this push and pull of like, what are you trying to achieve with these glasses? 270 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:58,300 Ejaaz: Is it multitasking or is it kind of focus or is it both it might work i don't know but i'm not 271 00:16:58,630 --> 00:16:59,310 Ejaaz: convinced. 272 00:16:59,630 --> 00:17:01,970 Josh: Yeah, you mentioned this earlier, the Steve Jobs demonstration. 273 00:17:02,210 --> 00:17:05,250 Josh: I think growing up watching Steve do these presentations has permanently tarnished 274 00:17:05,250 --> 00:17:09,050 Josh: all future presentations because they were really very, very focused. 275 00:17:09,290 --> 00:17:13,910 Josh: You left with a very clear vision of the future. They delivered on a very clear value in the present. 276 00:17:14,130 --> 00:17:18,550 Josh: And a lot of this presentation left me not only like feeling like it was kind 277 00:17:18,550 --> 00:17:21,750 Josh: of like not a serious thing, but wondering where's all this going? 278 00:17:21,870 --> 00:17:24,550 Josh: You're kind of seeing these small signs of life and small signs of this 279 00:17:24,550 --> 00:17:27,830 Josh: AI convergence with hardware one of them being the demo 280 00:17:27,830 --> 00:17:31,130 Josh: that you mentioned where it will actually pick up a voice and it will automatically amplify 281 00:17:31,130 --> 00:17:34,030 Josh: that voice it's a smart feature but it's kind of pitched in 282 00:17:34,030 --> 00:17:36,810 Josh: this weird convoluted confusing way where i'm not quite sure 283 00:17:36,810 --> 00:17:41,330 Josh: what i would use it for today being someone who doesn't use meta's ecosystem 284 00:17:41,330 --> 00:17:44,710 Josh: and i'm not quite sure what i'm going to use it for in the future because there 285 00:17:44,710 --> 00:17:47,390 Josh: was really wasn't a clear vision of where it's going just like these things 286 00:17:47,390 --> 00:17:51,910 Josh: are going to get better but i mean even if the voice amplification or the live 287 00:17:51,910 --> 00:17:55,050 Josh: translation gets it's better, like, I still, it's not going to do it for me. 288 00:17:55,150 --> 00:17:58,110 Josh: But there's another demo on screen. This wasn't the only demo that worked. 289 00:17:58,250 --> 00:17:59,390 Josh: Here's the second one that worked. 290 00:17:59,590 --> 00:18:06,970 Ejaaz: Yeah, yeah, it's a live translation feature. So for all my subtitle reader fans out here, I'm one of you. 291 00:18:07,290 --> 00:18:12,910 Ejaaz: The ones who read the subs despite the movie being in your native language or 292 00:18:12,910 --> 00:18:14,090 Ejaaz: in English or whatever it might be. 293 00:18:14,330 --> 00:18:18,930 Ejaaz: This is the ideal feature for you. It is basically live subtitles as the person 294 00:18:18,930 --> 00:18:22,970 Ejaaz: in front of you is speaking. So it appears on the high res display. 295 00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:27,750 Ejaaz: So for those people who kind of like mumble or who talk quietly, no more. 296 00:18:27,910 --> 00:18:32,070 Ejaaz: You'll understand anything and everything that they say in real time. It's pretty cool. 297 00:18:32,730 --> 00:18:36,590 Ejaaz: I don't know if this is groundbreaking to me, but it was one of the few demos 298 00:18:36,590 --> 00:18:39,250 Ejaaz: that actually worked. So we have to talk about it. 299 00:18:39,410 --> 00:18:42,510 Josh: There was, there's an interesting thing where you could see how this would be 300 00:18:42,510 --> 00:18:46,170 Josh: really cool for live translation in regards to like different languages. 301 00:18:46,350 --> 00:18:49,570 Josh: We saw that recently with the Apple event. We saw it again with the Google event 302 00:18:49,570 --> 00:18:51,750 Josh: where this live translation is becoming a cool thing. 303 00:18:51,870 --> 00:18:55,310 Josh: So this particular example was English, which was left a little to be desired. 304 00:18:55,350 --> 00:18:57,870 Josh: But I think the actual technology is pretty cool. 305 00:18:57,990 --> 00:19:01,850 Josh: The latency, it appears like it was pretty quick. So it's almost real-time translation. 306 00:19:02,190 --> 00:19:06,830 Josh: But again, it's like, okay, Do I want an $800 pair of glasses to amplify the 307 00:19:06,830 --> 00:19:08,670 Josh: person I'm talking to and then give me subtitles? 308 00:19:09,030 --> 00:19:13,450 Josh: It's like, I think these are a little uninspiring for the potential of this technology. 309 00:19:13,670 --> 00:19:15,990 Ejaaz: And they should have demonstrated it with a different language. 310 00:19:16,270 --> 00:19:21,650 Ejaaz: I looked up the features after this stream and apparently German and Portuguese 311 00:19:21,650 --> 00:19:23,830 Ejaaz: is available for live translation. 312 00:19:23,910 --> 00:19:28,250 Ejaaz: So why not demo that in the demo? It's just surprising. 313 00:19:28,450 --> 00:19:31,590 Josh: And why only those two languages too? It's bizarre. yeah going 314 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:36,570 Ejaaz: Into uh yours maybe both of ours favorite topic the fail demos there were some 315 00:19:36,570 --> 00:19:40,850 Ejaaz: there were some pretty pretty awkward fails um so. 316 00:19:40,850 --> 00:19:43,550 Josh: I had i was looking at my notes i was 317 00:19:43,550 --> 00:19:46,430 Josh: taking live notes last night as i was watching this and i have a line 318 00:19:46,430 --> 00:19:49,330 Josh: in my notepad that says omg i can't believe 319 00:19:49,330 --> 00:19:54,850 Josh: this is real and it was happening as this demo was going on this was i like 320 00:19:54,850 --> 00:19:59,070 Josh: my my skin started to curl as i was watching this because it was so awkward 321 00:19:59,070 --> 00:20:03,190 Josh: and i love that they did live demos and like i trust zuck and the fact that 322 00:20:03,190 --> 00:20:06,750 Josh: like this this works sure but like my god that was tough to watch 323 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:10,540 Ejaaz: It was super tough. And you know why it was a double whammy? 324 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,060 Ejaaz: Okay, well, firstly, let me give you some context. 325 00:20:13,340 --> 00:20:18,460 Ejaaz: For those who are listening on the screen here, we have Mark demoing a live 326 00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:24,840 Ejaaz: video call that you can execute from these new glasses, except the call never went through. 327 00:20:25,140 --> 00:20:29,140 Ejaaz: He got called maybe five times from the person that he was trying to demo with. 328 00:20:29,300 --> 00:20:33,180 Ejaaz: And he was unable to pick up. He kept saying, answer the phone, 329 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,280 Ejaaz: or he would gesture with his hand to answer the call. 330 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:41,000 Ejaaz: And it just would not work. The reason why this is a double whammy is the app 331 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,360 Ejaaz: they were using was WhatsApp, which is their own feature as well. 332 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:49,160 Ejaaz: So it really wasn't a good demonstration of the technology or the app. 333 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:55,180 Ejaaz: Now, to kind of give them a bit of slack, there has been Wi-Fi issues that have 334 00:20:55,180 --> 00:20:58,060 Ejaaz: failed live demos before, but you're meta. 335 00:20:58,620 --> 00:21:04,600 Ejaaz: You spent $25 billion to acquire 100 of the best AI researchers. 336 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:07,760 Ejaaz: Can you spend a couple of that on maybe better Wi-Fi infrastructure? 337 00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:10,980 Ejaaz: I'm not trying to shit on you. I'm just trying to make a valid point here. 338 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:14,300 Ejaaz: If you're going to live demo something that is a new form factor that is meant 339 00:21:14,300 --> 00:21:17,820 Ejaaz: to kill the iPhone, you need to kind of like be on it. 340 00:21:18,410 --> 00:21:22,430 Josh: Yeah, I think the the live demos I actually really admire and I appreciate the 341 00:21:22,430 --> 00:21:25,290 Josh: fact they did it because Google or Apple recently has strayed away from them. 342 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:28,590 Josh: And I think it's just it's kind of gross. Do it in real time. Let's see that it works. 343 00:21:28,910 --> 00:21:31,570 Josh: The thing for me is that even if all of the live demos worked fine, 344 00:21:31,810 --> 00:21:35,030 Josh: like I actually don't care that they failed. I believe that they do work and 345 00:21:35,030 --> 00:21:35,930 Josh: I believe that they work well. 346 00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:39,230 Josh: But even if those features do work, I still don't really care. 347 00:21:39,730 --> 00:21:42,310 Josh: I'm looking at him use the interface. I'm looking at him navigate around. 348 00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:45,710 Josh: And I'm realizing, well, by signing up for these glasses, you're signing up 349 00:21:45,710 --> 00:21:49,690 Josh: for the meta ecosystem. And that is a place where I have zero roots or zero 350 00:21:49,690 --> 00:21:52,230 Josh: allegiance or zero interest in actually using. 351 00:21:52,410 --> 00:21:55,070 Josh: I'm seeing him. He's using WhatsApp and he's using Facebook Messenger. 352 00:21:55,690 --> 00:21:58,090 Josh: And that's where all these messages are kind of populating. And I'm like, 353 00:21:58,170 --> 00:22:02,030 Josh: this is not a device for me. And how many people is this actually a device for? 354 00:22:02,150 --> 00:22:05,270 Josh: It's funny. I don't have glasses. I don't wear glasses for this episode. 355 00:22:05,550 --> 00:22:08,350 Josh: I found a pair and I put them on because I was like, well, what does it feel 356 00:22:08,350 --> 00:22:10,110 Josh: like to actually wear glasses? Because I never do. 357 00:22:10,390 --> 00:22:15,070 Josh: And it's just like, if I if I have to wear an $800 pair of bulky glasses that 358 00:22:15,070 --> 00:22:18,630 Josh: I don't think looked that great just to translate some subtitles in a native 359 00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:22,910 Josh: language that i already understand it's like okay like where where are the really 360 00:22:22,910 --> 00:22:25,570 Josh: cool use cases that get me fired up they were mia 361 00:22:25,570 --> 00:22:31,610 Ejaaz: Okay i'm gonna do two things now i'm going to uh give you some counter arguments 362 00:22:31,610 --> 00:22:35,030 Ejaaz: so what do you just propose because i kind of disagree with a few things and 363 00:22:35,030 --> 00:22:39,530 Ejaaz: then i'm gonna kind of kind of agree with a few things and give examples of 364 00:22:39,530 --> 00:22:42,290 Ejaaz: where they actually succeeded in the Yeah, it's sick. 365 00:22:42,550 --> 00:22:46,750 Ejaaz: What do you got? So firstly, remember when the airports first came out and people 366 00:22:46,750 --> 00:22:50,070 Ejaaz: were like, oh, these kind of look weird. I like my wired headphones. 367 00:22:50,330 --> 00:22:53,130 Ejaaz: Now everyone and their mom wears them, right? 368 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:58,610 Ejaaz: And the reason why is because they were just about cool enough to make it without 369 00:22:58,610 --> 00:23:04,230 Ejaaz: looking like chunky metal blocks in your ear. I think the same is going to happen with glasses. 370 00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:07,910 Ejaaz: And to be honest, if I look at the progression from Google Glass, 371 00:23:08,030 --> 00:23:12,670 Ejaaz: which was this futuristic, cringe-looking thing, to where we are with these 372 00:23:12,670 --> 00:23:16,350 Ejaaz: new Oakley and Meta Ray-Bans. I mean, it's literally in the name. It's Ray-Bans, right? 373 00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:19,670 Ejaaz: Ray-Bans have been known for killing the sunglass game for decades now. 374 00:23:19,870 --> 00:23:24,330 Ejaaz: I think we have a good shot at maybe producing a consumer wearable that anyone 375 00:23:24,330 --> 00:23:28,510 Ejaaz: and everyone will be cool with wearing, right? The second thing is... 376 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,320 Ejaaz: I actually like the live demos, and I think at the end of the day, 377 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:37,300 Ejaaz: I'm still optimistic about it because I know Meta will probably work through the bugs. 378 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:42,800 Ejaaz: They're going to fix all of them, and it'll probably end up being a coherent, usable product. 379 00:23:43,020 --> 00:23:45,240 Ejaaz: The other thing is it's affordable. 380 00:23:45,620 --> 00:23:48,380 Ejaaz: Now, they didn't do the Apple thing where they were like, this is going to be 381 00:23:48,380 --> 00:23:52,760 Ejaaz: thousands of dollars or whatever the premium pricing is for whoever at this point. 382 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:58,340 Ejaaz: It is something that is affordable, at least for most people in tech, to try out. 383 00:23:58,540 --> 00:24:01,600 Ejaaz: And I think the audience that they're going after is, you know, 384 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,280 Ejaaz: these Gen Z kids, which want a MacBook, which want their iPhone, 385 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,480 Ejaaz: which want a bunch of different things. 386 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,820 Ejaaz: You know, they're willing to kind of spend this extra money to try this. 387 00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:13,240 Ejaaz: Now, where I agree with you heavily is the ecosystem. 388 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:17,280 Ejaaz: Yeah, I don't use WhatsApp. It's just Instagram. So when I think about, 389 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:22,960 Ejaaz: you know, being plugged into Meta AI and the quality of their AI assistant, 390 00:24:23,260 --> 00:24:27,920 Ejaaz: which I don't know about you, Josh, but I've never actually used to any length 391 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,140 Ejaaz: of time outside of experiments. 392 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:29,920 Josh: Yeah. 393 00:24:30,140 --> 00:24:37,800 Ejaaz: I'm not convinced. This kind of feels like me using some low-grade AI assistant. Dare I say Siri? 394 00:24:38,260 --> 00:24:43,480 Ejaaz: Shout out Apple. Sorry. But I don't think it's coherent or usable enough for 395 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,960 Ejaaz: me to be really invested in these gases. 396 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,060 Ejaaz: I think the object, the device is super cool, 397 00:24:50,060 --> 00:24:53,940 Ejaaz: but i think the technology and software which at the end of the day is going 398 00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:57,300 Ejaaz: to be the thing that scales it it's going to be the thing that puts the nail 399 00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:02,500 Ejaaz: in the coffin to an iphone if that ever exists is still unproved and yet to 400 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:06,820 Ejaaz: be kind of built out um and i'm not quite seeing it with this release. 401 00:25:06,820 --> 00:25:09,620 Josh: Yeah so there's two two points that you made that i want 402 00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:12,720 Josh: to talk about because i think they're both interesting is is the google glass reference because 403 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,760 Josh: google glass came out in 2013 that's 12 404 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,880 Josh: years ago and a lot of the times when we're kind of 405 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,680 Josh: analyzing these companies we're looking at the rate of acceleration the 406 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,600 Josh: rate of improvement year over year as things gets better as a 407 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,400 Josh: way to kind of judge future returns so you just kind of assume 408 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,580 Josh: that they're on the flat part right now of the exponential curve but the 409 00:25:30,580 --> 00:25:33,800 Josh: progress that is being made year over year is is really 410 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,700 Josh: marginal relative to what it should be where i can 411 00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:39,840 Josh: see the same presentation happening four years in advance with 412 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,820 Josh: kind of like iphone level incrementation like oh now the camera instead 413 00:25:42,820 --> 00:25:45,720 Josh: of 3k it's 4k oh it has a wider field of view oh it 414 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,540 Josh: has double the pixel count in the displays and it still doesn't change 415 00:25:48,540 --> 00:25:51,680 Josh: the fact that it's not an interesting product because it doesn't have the software ecosystem 416 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,300 Josh: to back it up and then the second thing was on price which is eight hundred 417 00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:57,820 Josh: dollars you said it's like pretty affordable for what you're getting it's like 418 00:25:57,820 --> 00:26:00,980 Josh: you're getting these cool glasses with this display you're getting the wrist 419 00:26:00,980 --> 00:26:05,780 Josh: strap but he just do you not think that's subsidized in an attempt to gain users 420 00:26:05,780 --> 00:26:08,940 Josh: early before other companies release actually good hardware and 421 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:13,000 Josh: I just bought, Apple has the Apple Watch Ultra. It drops tomorrow on Friday. 422 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:17,400 Josh: And I paid $800 for a watch, just a single wrist strap. 423 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,420 Josh: And yeah, it's made of titanium and has the cool chips, but it costs $800. 424 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:26,720 Josh: And that is from Apple, who has a very well-established supply chain and manufacturing 425 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,460 Josh: capabilities and prices at reasonable margins because they have a lot of competition. 426 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,700 Josh: So for Meta to price a device this compelling in terms of frontier technology, 427 00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:38,740 Josh: I strongly suspect there's no way, including all the R&D costs and everything 428 00:26:38,740 --> 00:26:42,560 Josh: it took to get this thing out the door, that it really costs less than $800. 429 00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:47,540 Josh: This device absolutely costs more than $800. They have the wrist strap. They have the glasses. 430 00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:52,260 Josh: It's like, I very strongly suspect that they are subsidizing the price in order 431 00:26:52,260 --> 00:26:55,520 Josh: to gain users to sync them more into the ecosystem before, I mean, 432 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,840 Josh: like I said earlier, before other companies actually make good products. 433 00:26:57,940 --> 00:27:01,900 Josh: If Apple released a pair of glasses that were even marginally close to this, 434 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:03,820 Josh: I would spend twice as much. 435 00:27:03,940 --> 00:27:07,680 Josh: Even if Google did, I would probably spend a lot more because Google makes good hardware products. 436 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,980 Josh: The reality is meta this is just like it's a mediocre hardware product 437 00:27:10,980 --> 00:27:14,700 Josh: and they're probably doing all they can to gain gain uses early which is like 438 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,720 Josh: maybe a hot take in terms of the mediocrity because i mean again i don't want 439 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,280 Josh: to judge it without using it because we haven't used it and all the people who've 440 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,540 Josh: tried it said it's remarkable it's really cool so i think we should probably 441 00:27:23,540 --> 00:27:27,060 Josh: reserve final judgment until we hit the demo but just based on first impressions 442 00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:30,780 Josh: it's like okay this is probably their strategy let 443 00:27:30,780 --> 00:27:34,420 Ejaaz: Me steel man um what mess his argument might be. 444 00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:35,840 Josh: Right uh so what 445 00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:40,870 Ejaaz: So what? They haven't been in the hardware game meaningfully. 446 00:27:41,150 --> 00:27:44,910 Ejaaz: Yeah, they acquired Oculus and they've gone down the AR, VR route. 447 00:27:45,050 --> 00:27:50,570 Ejaaz: But this is the first, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, like homegrown product. 448 00:27:50,790 --> 00:27:53,910 Ejaaz: Like they have been working on this neural wristband for years now. 449 00:27:54,010 --> 00:27:58,090 Ejaaz: And it's their first kind of foray into a new form factor by far, right? 450 00:27:58,490 --> 00:28:00,590 Josh: So maybe pricing it at 451 00:28:00,590 --> 00:28:04,590 Ejaaz: A cheap enough point where the hardware is kind of gimmicky but good enough 452 00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:09,810 Ejaaz: is good enough to get a distribution to a loyal fan base, of which they already 453 00:28:09,810 --> 00:28:11,730 Ejaaz: have tons of online users, right? 454 00:28:12,250 --> 00:28:16,930 Ejaaz: And then number two, I'm thinking maybe this is a problem that solves itself 455 00:28:16,930 --> 00:28:20,470 Ejaaz: just by chucking money at it from the manufacturing perspective. 456 00:28:20,610 --> 00:28:24,770 Ejaaz: That might be a super, super naive take, but I'm guessing that that might be 457 00:28:24,770 --> 00:28:26,650 Ejaaz: a strategy that Zuck has thought about. 458 00:28:26,810 --> 00:28:30,850 Ejaaz: And we might end up seeing a bunch of infrastructure or hardware manufacturing 459 00:28:30,850 --> 00:28:34,930 Ejaaz: supply chain partnerships over the next couple of months. remains to be seen. 460 00:28:35,370 --> 00:28:40,990 Ejaaz: Now, if I'm to look at your point around Apple, I would say that not only would 461 00:28:40,990 --> 00:28:45,210 Ejaaz: people pay $800 or maybe even double that for the new watch, 462 00:28:45,570 --> 00:28:47,550 Ejaaz: it's because you have ecosystem lock-in. 463 00:28:47,690 --> 00:28:52,370 Ejaaz: It's because the software experience and the app experience is so damn good. 464 00:28:52,550 --> 00:28:56,470 Ejaaz: And that's kind of Apple's leverage at this point. It's this kind of like coherent 465 00:28:56,470 --> 00:29:01,470 Ejaaz: system where if they released an AI hardware product tomorrow, I'm there. 466 00:29:01,670 --> 00:29:05,090 Ejaaz: I'm buying it. All my friends are using the Apple ecosystem anyway, right? 467 00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:09,770 Ejaaz: So I'm still an Apple fanboy, and the meta AI stuff kind of icks me, 468 00:29:09,890 --> 00:29:12,730 Ejaaz: but I can appreciate the attempt that they're going for. 469 00:29:12,890 --> 00:29:19,850 Ejaaz: And if they have even one, Josh, okay, imagine this, just one novel use case that goes viral. 470 00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:23,270 Ejaaz: And let me make a guess at what that might be. Please. Okay. 471 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,860 Ejaaz: Um it is going to be some form of 472 00:29:26,860 --> 00:29:30,100 Ejaaz: streaming streaming content is becoming super popular 473 00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:32,900 Ejaaz: amongst the gen z sports people social media 474 00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:35,880 Ejaaz: is everywhere if i can stream a video or stream 475 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,080 Ejaaz: my life in general clip the cool clips post it on my social media it goes viral 476 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:46,560 Ejaaz: that might be good enough to sway me to use it now are all demographics of people 477 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:51,620 Ejaaz: using this probably not are you going to walk into your wall street job with 478 00:29:51,620 --> 00:29:53,360 Ejaaz: these glasses on and stare at the charts, 479 00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:56,380 Ejaaz: maybe 10 years from now, but certainly not now, right? 480 00:29:56,540 --> 00:29:59,700 Ejaaz: I feel like this appeals to maybe a younger audience. That might be why Zuck 481 00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:01,200 Ejaaz: is wearing gold chains every now and then. 482 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,480 Ejaaz: But I feel like that's the that's the demographic that he's going for. 483 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,680 Ejaaz: Kind of like Gen Z teenagers, social content people. 484 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,500 Josh: Yeah, we're not even talking about the outfits he walked out on stage. 485 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:11,820 Josh: We'll save that for later. 486 00:30:12,620 --> 00:30:17,000 Josh: There was like two more things, I guess. One is the AI that runs locally on the device. 487 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,040 Josh: I'm unsure, EJ, if there is much of it. Like I'm very 488 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,400 Josh: interested in the intelligence because he led with that super intelligence line 489 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:27,280 Josh: he used the s word um but the intelligence seemed pretty rudimentary it was 490 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,100 Josh: kind of like they showed a demo where they were in a surf shop and you look 491 00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:33,180 Josh: at a surfboard and they're like oh here's an email that you talked about a surfboard 492 00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:36,980 Josh: and it feels kind of like what what i would imagine siri and apple intelligence 493 00:30:36,980 --> 00:30:39,280 Josh: would be which is bad um but 494 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,680 Josh: moderately helpful um and then also there was 495 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,420 Josh: other things we probably should round this out with the rest of the stuff that 496 00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:48,260 Josh: was announced during the presentation because it wasn't just this one 497 00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:51,000 Josh: set of glasses there was a few things we could kind of speed run 498 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,040 Josh: through them if you'd like um the first 499 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,720 Josh: one oh here we are yes the oakley meta vanguard glasses so prior to making this 500 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,820 Josh: big announcement of the displays they released a few glasses and to me this 501 00:31:00,820 --> 00:31:04,400 Josh: felt like so i love photography videography camera stuff this felt like i was 502 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,900 Josh: watching a gopro announcement it was an action camera they partnered with red 503 00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:11,640 Josh: bull to do a promo video uh it's like it feels like a 504 00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:15,200 Josh: Really bizarre anomaly for a company like meta who's 505 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,800 Josh: going for agi to drop an action camera attached to glasses um 506 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,780 Josh: friend of the pod host of the pod david hoffman 507 00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:24,440 Josh: he messaged us he said i'm getting a pair of these this is 508 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,500 Josh: my pair david loves climbing he loves i 509 00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:30,540 Josh: mean presumably recording the climbing and uses a bulky gopro setup 510 00:31:30,540 --> 00:31:33,300 Josh: so this is cool for people like that a few 511 00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:37,180 Josh: specs on these glasses because there was some interesting noteworthy 512 00:31:37,180 --> 00:31:40,220 Josh: things for these um they're targeted at athletes first 513 00:31:40,220 --> 00:31:44,700 Josh: sport specific glasses they are ip67 rated which means they're dust resistant 514 00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:47,860 Josh: and water resistant you can wear them get them wet drop them in water they have 515 00:31:47,860 --> 00:31:52,700 Josh: a 12 megapixel camera 122 field of view 122 degree field of view which is pretty 516 00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:56,500 Josh: wide for a lot of people who aren't familiar with that uh the battery lasts 517 00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:59,500 Josh: up to nine hours and it captures 3k video for 518 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,680 Josh: 499 so the 3k video i thought was funny um 519 00:32:04,410 --> 00:32:11,270 Josh: it's like okay why like it's like people don't call 2k video 2k at just 1080p 520 00:32:11,270 --> 00:32:16,730 Josh: because it's 1920 by 1080 and for 4k it's like 38 60 by 2010 uh so like the 521 00:32:16,730 --> 00:32:19,510 Josh: 3k is just interesting marketing i guess it sounds cool i 522 00:32:19,510 --> 00:32:22,430 Ejaaz: Don't think i've ever heard anyone market it at 3k before. 523 00:32:22,430 --> 00:32:26,950 Josh: Yeah because like no like you do 1080p or 4k like you're just doing this weird 524 00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:30,770 Josh: incremental thing that i don't love but whatever um but the glasses i mean here 525 00:32:30,770 --> 00:32:34,350 Josh: they are they look interesting it's like my past self who was playing baseball 526 00:32:34,350 --> 00:32:37,290 Josh: games in the outfield i'd love this i can get some live content and be catching 527 00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:39,670 Josh: a fly ball but i'm not sure what 528 00:32:39,670 --> 00:32:42,430 Ejaaz: Do you think of the camera smack bang in the center. 529 00:32:42,430 --> 00:32:45,090 Josh: So look at this this is like this was not a 530 00:32:45,090 --> 00:32:48,570 Josh: serious presentation like it really like i 531 00:32:48,570 --> 00:32:51,670 Josh: don't know how what is this 532 00:32:51,670 --> 00:32:54,390 Josh: but like this was a presentation that needed to be made in 533 00:32:54,390 --> 00:32:57,230 Josh: two or three years this is like not a presentation that should have been made 534 00:32:57,230 --> 00:33:01,010 Josh: today and what we're seeing is just like this is not i mean it's a cute little 535 00:33:01,010 --> 00:33:04,990 Josh: action camera from a god knows how many hundreds of billions of dollars of r&d 536 00:33:04,990 --> 00:33:09,830 Josh: budget so like okay cool they also did this not just with oakley but with uh 537 00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:14,350 Josh: the ray-bans as well they released the ray-ban metagen twos which are like those 538 00:33:14,790 --> 00:33:17,670 Josh: trademarked yeah here they are those like trademarked glasses you see everywhere 539 00:33:17,670 --> 00:33:20,730 Josh: these look a little more compelling because they're just a little bit smaller 540 00:33:20,730 --> 00:33:26,230 Josh: um these start a little bit cheaper at 379 but again like okay they'll talk 541 00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:28,730 Josh: to you and you can kind of ask you questions there's no display integrated in 542 00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:32,670 Josh: them it's like it's a little bit better than the last generation um and that 543 00:33:32,670 --> 00:33:38,050 Josh: was that was it for the hardware there was three glasses one wrist strap and a lot of um 544 00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:41,990 Josh: enthusiasm and open-ended questions i 545 00:33:41,990 --> 00:33:45,730 Ejaaz: Have a question for you josh yes before we round up and this is a very important 546 00:33:45,730 --> 00:33:53,010 Ejaaz: question so think about it are glasses the final form factor for AI consumer devices? 547 00:33:53,330 --> 00:33:59,030 Josh: No, I don't think so. I think the final form isn't a single form. 548 00:33:59,110 --> 00:34:02,110 Josh: And I think this is something that is going to take a while to train people's 549 00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:05,710 Josh: brains because we've become so accustomed to relying on single devices like 550 00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:06,750 Josh: our iPhone to do everything. 551 00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:13,350 Josh: One of the benefits of AI that we get is a lot of context that is distributed across devices. 552 00:34:13,690 --> 00:34:18,410 Josh: So if you think of like EJazz as being a singular profile that exists in the cloud, 553 00:34:18,410 --> 00:34:21,190 Josh: that profile is it can be secured and it 554 00:34:21,190 --> 00:34:23,930 Josh: can be full of context and it can be uniquely you and that 555 00:34:23,930 --> 00:34:28,510 Josh: profile can be carried to a stream of devices that isn't one singular iphone 556 00:34:28,510 --> 00:34:33,410 Josh: so in the case of this new frontier there's new types of form factors glasses 557 00:34:33,410 --> 00:34:37,250 Josh: are absolutely not final form because there is no way in hell i'm going to be 558 00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:40,970 Josh: wearing a pair of glasses to like a private dinner and chatting with people 559 00:34:40,970 --> 00:34:43,850 Josh: and just letting it like it's just not it's too intrusive 560 00:34:44,700 --> 00:34:48,160 Josh: To have a series, a suite of devices, you have your phone, you have a display 561 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,780 Josh: on the wall, you have glasses on your face, you have smart AI in your earbuds, 562 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,320 Josh: you have a little puck on your desk. 563 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,440 Josh: I think the future form factor is really varied. 564 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:02,240 Josh: It exists in a lot of different forms, but it uses this one type of intelligence, 565 00:35:02,420 --> 00:35:03,940 Josh: which is AI, this context window. 566 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,580 Josh: And the term that people are using for that is ambient AI, ambient intelligence. 567 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,800 Josh: It just kind of exists in devices around you. it's very portable it's very modular 568 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,020 Josh: but it's not locked into a singular device so while i think glasses are part 569 00:35:17,020 --> 00:35:20,800 Josh: of that ecosystem i do not like think they are the the single form that will 570 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,360 Josh: lead the way in terms of replacing something like an iphone 571 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,280 Ejaaz: Agreed it won't be the ultimate form i think the ultimate form of you and i 572 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,740 Ejaaz: probably both agree here it will be some form of like chip in the brain and 573 00:35:30,740 --> 00:35:37,280 Ejaaz: the projection of display will be on our actual eyelids eyelids on our actual eye lens on. 574 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,900 Josh: Your neural cortex forget the 575 00:35:38,900 --> 00:35:41,700 Ejaaz: Eyeballs those are lame okay there you 576 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:45,100 Ejaaz: go so so we have basically an ai brain um 577 00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:48,620 Ejaaz: that does all the cool functions for us but that's 578 00:35:48,620 --> 00:35:51,400 Ejaaz: gonna take decades like you said so in the 579 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,860 Ejaaz: intermediary what do you think is the new cell 580 00:35:54,860 --> 00:35:57,840 Ejaaz: phone moment it could it be glasses or 581 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,520 Ejaaz: is it uh the puck like device that we 582 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,160 Ejaaz: discussed in the past i'll give you i'll give you my take yeah let's hear it 583 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:10,580 Ejaaz: i think i think glasses is a fantastic step in the right direction and i think 584 00:36:10,580 --> 00:36:17,040 Ejaaz: it'll be one if not the only intermediary device that's going to work at least 585 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,400 Ejaaz: for the next decade and and here's my reasoning. 586 00:36:20,260 --> 00:36:26,860 Ejaaz: You need something visual that you kind of can wear, but doesn't bother you too much. 587 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:32,720 Ejaaz: I think AirPods demonstrated that we're okay doing that with one form of medium, 588 00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:37,380 Ejaaz: which is music and listening and calls, that part of our social life. 589 00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:43,260 Ejaaz: But visual never really got kind of upgraded from staring at a metal slab and 590 00:36:43,260 --> 00:36:46,180 Ejaaz: having to pick it up, having to go to a bigger metal slab. 591 00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:48,400 Ejaaz: I'm gesturing to my laptop that's in front of me. 592 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,320 Ejaaz: It's kind of clunky. So I feel like something that follows me everywhere. 593 00:36:52,580 --> 00:36:55,300 Ejaaz: Yeah, glasses kind of seem annoying, but I don't know. 594 00:36:55,460 --> 00:36:59,460 Ejaaz: If you can do it in a way where my vision isn't impaired too much, 595 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:05,080 Ejaaz: where there's no like crazy filter or colored filter, I could wear it. Just make me look cool. 596 00:37:05,260 --> 00:37:07,820 Ejaaz: And I could wear it. That sounds good, right? 597 00:37:09,140 --> 00:37:13,820 Ejaaz: The other thing is last week, we spoke about Apple's new iPhone Air. 598 00:37:13,980 --> 00:37:16,280 Ejaaz: I have mine arriving tomorrow. 599 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,240 Josh: I cannot wait. We're both getting new phones tomorrow. Let's go. 600 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,960 Ejaaz: We're both getting new phones and it's actually both of the different 601 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,180 Ejaaz: models so we can demonstrate that live but the amazing 602 00:37:26,180 --> 00:37:29,060 Ejaaz: um part of the iphone air 603 00:37:29,060 --> 00:37:32,680 Ejaaz: is the entire computer chips everything aside 604 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,640 Ejaaz: from the battery was contained in just the camera slot where you would normally 605 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,660 Ejaaz: see on your phone so like it's it's just in this tiny square for those of you 606 00:37:40,660 --> 00:37:43,760 Ejaaz: looking at this screen i'm holding up an iphone and the camera part of it the 607 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:49,680 Ejaaz: plateau right um that suggests to me that they are also heading towards a world 608 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,640 Ejaaz: where they're going to release some kind of small device, 609 00:37:52,260 --> 00:37:56,660 Ejaaz: most likely a wearable or something that you can wear on you that will do something 610 00:37:56,660 --> 00:37:58,040 Ejaaz: similar to what these glasses are doing. 611 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:01,640 Ejaaz: It kind of indicates that glasses might be the thing. I might be getting ahead 612 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,520 Ejaaz: of my skis on this one, but I think it's the ideal form factor for the next day. 613 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,540 Josh: I've spent a lot of time thinking about it, and the mistake that I caught myself 614 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:15,200 Josh: making was thinking that there will be another iPhone. 615 00:38:15,380 --> 00:38:17,880 Josh: And I really, I genuinely don't believe there will be another iPhone. 616 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,720 Josh: It is the singular moment in history that will not be replicated because the 617 00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,080 Josh: future technology does not enable it to happen. 618 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,560 Josh: The glasses are awesome, and I very strongly agree that everyone's working on 619 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:30,960 Josh: them and everyone will be wearing them. 620 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,280 Josh: But it is part of a larger ecosystem that kind of exists in this ambient space 621 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,880 Josh: versus a singular device. 622 00:38:37,060 --> 00:38:39,860 Josh: And I think that's what Meta is going for. I mean, that's why they changed their 623 00:38:39,860 --> 00:38:41,340 Josh: entire name from Facebook to Meta. 624 00:38:41,420 --> 00:38:47,660 Josh: They are building these devices for a metaverse, for a reality that exists multimodal. 625 00:38:47,780 --> 00:38:51,860 Josh: It exists in this like meat space that we're in today, but also in an overlaid 626 00:38:51,860 --> 00:38:57,120 Josh: world that is littered with virtual and digital avatars and worlds. 627 00:38:57,220 --> 00:38:59,560 Josh: So that's kind of where we land with Meta. 628 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,940 Josh: It's like, OK, cool today. Ejaz, are you getting you're getting a pair? 629 00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:06,540 Ejaaz: I'm going to get a pair. And I just want to point out, Josh, 630 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,300 Ejaaz: you're still wearing the glasses that you were demonstrating earlier. 631 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,680 Ejaaz: So I'm just saying, I'm just saying maybe you may not care about it. 632 00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:16,360 Josh: They're comfortable. I can see why people wear these all day, 633 00:39:16,540 --> 00:39:17,920 Josh: even if they don't have a choice. 634 00:39:19,180 --> 00:39:22,720 Ejaaz: But these glasses come out on the 30th of September. 635 00:39:23,140 --> 00:39:28,740 Ejaaz: They are priced at $799, which is for the fancy new thing, the one that comes 636 00:39:28,740 --> 00:39:30,140 Ejaaz: with the neural wristband. 637 00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:34,720 Ejaaz: So you're getting two devices for a singular price of $799. 638 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,100 Ejaaz: And if that's still out of your price range, you can get the Oakleys at $499 639 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:44,440 Ejaaz: and the Ray-Ban Gen 2s at, I think it was $345. 640 00:39:45,140 --> 00:39:46,180 Ejaaz: Something like that. $379? Okay. 641 00:39:46,790 --> 00:39:50,310 Ejaaz: So, so much, much cheaper than the Apple ecosystem, but you know, 642 00:39:50,450 --> 00:39:52,950 Ejaaz: they come out on September 30th for the, for the new ones. 643 00:39:53,370 --> 00:39:56,650 Josh: We were yapping today. We're at 45 minutes long. If you made it to the end, 644 00:39:56,970 --> 00:39:58,010 Josh: thank you for sticking with us. 645 00:39:58,190 --> 00:40:03,250 Josh: Guys, the comment section and the reaction to some of our most recent episodes have been insane. 646 00:40:03,490 --> 00:40:06,510 Josh: You got like, whoever's been sticking to the end, whoever's been sending comments 647 00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:08,250 Josh: and messages, it's been so generous. 648 00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:12,710 Josh: And I woke up this morning and I messaged Ejaz, like just to go look at it because 649 00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:14,010 Josh: it was really, it's, it's so special. 650 00:40:14,010 --> 00:40:18,230 Josh: So we appreciate you not only sticking to the end of a 45 minute rant about 651 00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:22,850 Josh: the new frontier of this meta hardware technology, but also just engaging with 652 00:40:22,850 --> 00:40:24,390 Josh: all the content. You got a bunch of new subscribers. 653 00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:27,950 Josh: We have a bunch of comments like, thank you. We are so excited to wake up and 654 00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:30,730 Josh: record these episodes. We have so many more coming down the pipeline. 655 00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:33,950 Josh: And yeah, just appreciate you sticking with us. So again, as always, 656 00:40:34,050 --> 00:40:37,010 Josh: if you enjoyed, share with your friends. Any parting words, Ejaz, 657 00:40:37,150 --> 00:40:38,290 Josh: anything to leave the people with? 658 00:40:38,430 --> 00:40:43,190 Ejaaz: Leave more comments. Buy these glasses. Or will you not buy these glasses? 659 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:44,470 Ejaaz: Tell us if you're not going to buy these glasses. 660 00:40:44,770 --> 00:40:48,990 Ejaaz: Tell us why it's not cool. Tell us why it's impractical or tell us why it's 661 00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:51,210 Ejaaz: the next best thing. We don't know. 662 00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:54,370 Josh: We want to hear from you. Yeah, prove me wrong. Tell me why it's sick. 663 00:40:54,490 --> 00:40:57,710 Josh: And like, I didn't waste an hour of my time last night. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. 664 00:40:57,870 --> 00:40:58,950 Ejaaz: It was cool, it was cool. 665 00:40:59,570 --> 00:41:00,770 Josh: Technooptimist, keep shipping in public. 666 00:41:00,830 --> 00:41:04,170 Ejaaz: We weren't going to do anything anyway last night, Josh, we're nerds. 667 00:41:04,470 --> 00:41:07,390 Josh: That's so true, that's so true. But yeah, pro team Zuck, keep shipping, 668 00:41:07,510 --> 00:41:10,490 Josh: keep spending those billions of dollars. We are building a brighter future. 669 00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:14,110 Josh: So as always, thank you for watching. We appreciate it. And we'll see you. 670 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:24,530 Music: Music