WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.049 --> 00:00:01.639 Shannon Putman: Yellow everybody. 00:00:01.759 --> 00:00:04.849 Welcome to the pop, as I like to call it. 00:00:04.940 --> 00:00:08.480 I have something incredibly exciting in store for you today. 00:00:08.899 --> 00:00:20.480 A woman that I could not be more proud to call a friend, Ms. Lynn Henderson, the CEO and co-founder of Certify Ed Lynn, welcome on into the Pop. 00:00:21.169 --> 00:00:22.249 Thank you, Shannon. 00:00:22.249 --> 00:00:24.259 I'm really excited to be here today. 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:28.639 Well, it's an absolute honor and the joy is all on my end. 00:00:29.029 --> 00:00:34.309 So instead of me rambling on about Certify ed, why don't you go ahead and tell everybody what exactly that is? 00:00:35.089 --> 00:00:36.259 Well, certify 00:00:36.259 --> 00:00:39.739 Lynne Henderson: Ed is a CTE curriculum company. 00:00:39.979 --> 00:00:42.794 We develop our own courses and. 00:00:43.654 --> 00:00:51.874 With each of the courses, we have simulations so that the students can practice what they're learning in the course. 00:00:52.124 --> 00:01:04.464 Our course and simulations can be done on different types of devices, can be done on VR, headset laptop, desktop, or tablet. 00:01:05.613 --> 00:01:06.513 Shannon Putman: Fantastic. 00:01:06.573 --> 00:01:13.933 And that's already a very unique per point that you just made, that you are available on all different platforms. 00:01:14.023 --> 00:01:20.833 And I think that's critical because VR is not into education to the level that we're hoping. 00:01:21.283 --> 00:01:31.993 So are you finding that a lot of people are accessing the content in, you know, the standard 2D format, or do you see that more people are now starting to get invested in the VR as well? 00:01:32.938 --> 00:01:43.043 Lynne Henderson: Well, when we started the company seven years ago, the reason we did it across all the devices was because there, you know, VR wasn't as popular in education. 00:01:43.823 --> 00:01:50.423 We're starting to see more schools wanting the students to do it on the headsets. 00:01:50.773 --> 00:01:55.903 They are purchasing maybe five or 10 headsets. 00:01:56.263 --> 00:01:56.983 They're not. 00:01:57.848 --> 00:02:08.048 Getting enough for the entire class to have it, but it is becoming, each year I see it becoming more and more popular. 00:02:08.048 --> 00:02:13.748 So I think eventually it will be where there's a headset for every student in the school. 00:02:14.948 --> 00:02:15.458 Shannon Putman: Yay. 00:02:15.458 --> 00:02:26.168 From your lips, because I've been saying that for a while too, and I'm sure people are absolutely sick of hearing me saying it, but to hear from somebody else definitely helps to support my cause, so thank you. 00:02:26.938 --> 00:02:28.258 You were not paid to say that? 00:02:28.633 --> 00:02:29.353 Lynne Henderson: No I wasn't. 00:02:31.508 --> 00:02:31.778 Shannon Putman: Phew. 00:02:32.468 --> 00:02:46.366 So, one of the things too that I love about Certify Ed is that you are one of the few companies if only that I have worked with that actually goes the full steps through the process and offers credentialing. 00:02:46.666 --> 00:02:50.326 So can you tell me a little bit about you, you know, what you guys actually do with that? 00:02:50.851 --> 00:02:51.091 Lynne Henderson: Yeah. 00:02:51.091 --> 00:03:07.551 When we are developing the courses, we're looking at the industry standards the national standards, and we're looking at the certification, what's required of the certification. 00:03:07.881 --> 00:03:16.581 We align our courses to, NTI is one of the big national organizations, N-O-T-N-O-C-T-I. 00:03:17.131 --> 00:03:28.881 In our culinary arts usually students take ServSafe and the drone course is aligned to the FAA unmanned pilot's license. 00:03:30.051 --> 00:03:41.781 So the students, well, a lot of VR companies or that have simulations, they don't have the course with the vr, they just have the VR. 00:03:42.681 --> 00:03:49.031 Or they just specialize in one field, let's say medical or you know, STEM or something like that. 00:03:49.511 --> 00:03:53.674 With certify ed, We have different types of courses. 00:03:53.674 --> 00:04:11.114 We have 23 courses currently, and it, they're in the trades, plumbing, electrical, you know, medical biotech, as I said, drones, carpentry, electrical, and the student can get the entire course. 00:04:11.234 --> 00:04:17.624 And then after the course is finished, then they're prepared to take the certification exams. 00:04:18.398 --> 00:04:33.158 Shannon Putman: That's absolutely fantastic because the whole point of all of this learning, no matter what type it is to prepare our students for life after school, whether that be service, whether that's college, right into the workforce. 00:04:33.578 --> 00:04:40.358 And you guys actually have a program that takes them all the way through to being prepared, 00:04:41.258 --> 00:04:41.798 Lynne Henderson: correct. 00:04:42.381 --> 00:04:43.521 Shannon Putman: That's absolutely wonderful. 00:04:43.551 --> 00:04:55.641 And like I said, I haven't seen much of anything else that has taken the time to align to all those standards and everything, because that's typically one of the first things the teacher will ask me, well, what standards does it align to? 00:04:55.641 --> 00:05:00.631 And I'm like you know, especially being new in the CTE field I was like, I don't know. 00:05:00.631 --> 00:05:02.551 And with Certify Ed, I'm like, Nope. 00:05:02.551 --> 00:05:02.851 Boom. 00:05:02.881 --> 00:05:07.981 I can rattle 'em off right away because you guys have taken the work to do what is necessary. 00:05:08.211 --> 00:05:10.671 To give it legitimacy to your programs? 00:05:11.301 --> 00:05:11.901 Lynne Henderson: Yes. 00:05:11.961 --> 00:05:12.411 Yes. 00:05:12.831 --> 00:05:26.151 We want the courses to meet the standards, but more importantly, we want the courses to be engaging for the students and for them to get something out of it. 00:05:26.391 --> 00:05:35.061 And then at the end, if they decide to do the certification, that's gonna help them when they graduate and go out into the workforce. 00:05:35.799 --> 00:05:36.939 Shannon Putman: Absolutely wonderful. 00:05:37.509 --> 00:05:40.979 And that's kind of some of the best we can hope to do for our students. 00:05:42.119 --> 00:05:42.629 Yes. 00:05:42.749 --> 00:05:43.019 Lynne Henderson: Yeah. 00:05:43.799 --> 00:05:47.939 Shannon Putman: And so, you know, we've been talking about the, this, you know, credentialing and everything. 00:05:47.939 --> 00:05:56.269 Are there certain areas that you are seeing you know, or certain courses maybe, that are more popular or any kind of trends in the workforce demands right now? 00:05:56.679 --> 00:06:08.982 Lynne Henderson: Well, I'll tell you the courses that are very popular that we have with the students, and that is the culinary arts. 00:06:09.432 --> 00:06:16.872 any of the trades, carpentry, plumbing, electrical, and animal science and vet science. 00:06:17.622 --> 00:06:19.522 Those numbers are high. 00:06:19.622 --> 00:06:25.622 And then criminal justice is a popular course too with students. 00:06:25.962 --> 00:06:33.422 I think that the job force, you know, it's always changing and you always have to be. 00:06:33.812 --> 00:06:37.082 Changing with whatever the trends are. 00:06:37.412 --> 00:06:41.972 And technical and digital skills are very important now. 00:06:42.262 --> 00:06:44.032 We have a digital media. 00:06:44.062 --> 00:06:47.662 We are working on a cybersecurity course. 00:06:48.112 --> 00:06:57.442 And then the trades and hands-on skills like welding, culinary arts, animal science, those are very popular also now. 00:06:58.477 --> 00:07:10.147 And when we're deciding on courses, what our next courses will be, I really like to talk with people to find out what they see out there. 00:07:10.147 --> 00:07:14.847 And you know, one of the partners we work with there in St. 00:07:14.847 --> 00:07:29.107 Lucia and she was sending me a text saying, They're saying that the electrical cars and being able to work on the charging stations and all is very popular. 00:07:29.317 --> 00:07:30.937 Can you do a course on that? 00:07:31.597 --> 00:07:37.407 So we're, we've put that on our list and eventually we'll be developing a course for that. 00:07:38.239 --> 00:07:40.459 Shannon Putman: That's incredibly interesting. 00:07:40.459 --> 00:07:45.109 It's smart too, of course, obviously to listen to your customers and see where the demand is. 00:07:45.109 --> 00:07:49.849 But as you mentioned, everything is always changing, you know, in, in the world. 00:07:49.849 --> 00:07:55.199 And one of the things that I did hear a lot from educators when I was out. 00:07:55.199 --> 00:08:08.409 The different schools asking was not just the charging stations but the auto mechanic professors were asking a lot about electric engines 'cause they can't get one to even practice on. 00:08:08.799 --> 00:08:09.039 Lynne Henderson: Yeah. 00:08:09.099 --> 00:08:17.559 So we're going to try to be developing a course on all of that, the electric engine and also the charging stations. 00:08:18.499 --> 00:08:21.649 Shannon Putman: I will absolutely have some people that will be ready for that. 00:08:21.649 --> 00:08:24.619 So don't for forget me when that comes out. 00:08:24.889 --> 00:08:25.909 Oh, I definitely will 00:08:25.909 --> 00:08:27.139 Lynne Henderson: never forget you, Shannon. 00:08:27.139 --> 00:08:28.849 Shannon Putman: Aw, well thank you. 00:08:28.909 --> 00:08:29.809 Right back at you. 00:08:30.309 --> 00:08:33.409 It would, I would be remiss if I didn't ask the standard question. 00:08:33.409 --> 00:08:40.594 I feel like we all have to ask about it now, but, you know, AI being the big buzz word and everything like that you know, you guys are. 00:08:40.739 --> 00:08:44.309 Because I think a lot of people try to force AI into things when it's not needed to. 00:08:44.339 --> 00:08:48.039 So, you know, how is AI affecting what you guys do at Certify Ed? 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:49.349 Or are you using it? 00:08:49.349 --> 00:08:50.129 Are you not? 00:08:51.064 --> 00:08:51.634 Well, 00:08:51.634 --> 00:08:55.894 Lynne Henderson: you know, we use it in our everyday work. 00:08:56.164 --> 00:08:59.254 We haven't put it in our courses yet. 00:08:59.914 --> 00:09:04.354 We've gone back and forth about whether to do that. 00:09:04.664 --> 00:09:08.984 And it's not because we don't think it's useful because. 00:09:09.764 --> 00:09:16.064 The student being able to have a tutor right there with them is very valuable. 00:09:16.124 --> 00:09:25.494 And the AI being able to recognize what the student is weak in and being able to bring them up to standards, it's great. 00:09:25.824 --> 00:09:32.994 We're just trying to figure out, you know, how we do this and, or the best way. 00:09:33.044 --> 00:09:34.934 And a lot of it is because. 00:09:35.219 --> 00:09:44.809 The technology, you know, is changing so much, you just want to keep up with it and be able to give the best service to your clients. 00:09:45.699 --> 00:09:47.349 Shannon Putman: Yeah, absolutely. 00:09:47.349 --> 00:10:00.749 And, you know, you've designed your programs, your courses are all incredibly well thought out and designed so that, you know, on I love what you said about potential recognizing, you know, patterns and then tutoring and things like that. 00:10:00.749 --> 00:10:07.409 But the way you go through assessments and everything in your program, it doesn't really necessitate the need for it. 00:10:07.599 --> 00:10:09.609 But I also love that. 00:10:10.779 --> 00:10:22.539 You have done the work to use this as a preparation and a supportive learning experience as opposed to a replacement of any educator, 00:10:23.019 --> 00:10:23.259 Lynne Henderson: right? 00:10:23.259 --> 00:10:31.329 Shannon Putman: how do you guys really ensure when you're talking to teachers that, Hey, look, you know, we're not telling you put them on this, and then you never do anything again. 00:10:31.329 --> 00:10:35.589 How do you make it a part of the instruction as opposed to just a standoff? 00:10:36.204 --> 00:10:37.674 Thing they do in isolation? 00:10:38.004 --> 00:10:38.274 Lynne Henderson: Yeah. 00:10:38.484 --> 00:10:54.504 Well we have our courses, they're used with online schools that do not have a teacher, like in the, they go to a classroom and they have a teacher there, and then we have it in the brick and mortar when, where they do. 00:10:54.924 --> 00:10:59.324 So we always talk with this teacher about the flexibility. 00:11:00.149 --> 00:11:13.379 That they can use our course as a standalone, or they can insert things into the course that they want the students to do or they can have projects. 00:11:13.949 --> 00:11:19.709 And then the way we have our courses set up, it's learn, apply and create. 00:11:20.189 --> 00:11:26.339 And the create is where the student is given two assignments and they have to. 00:11:26.849 --> 00:11:29.609 Show competency in those two areas. 00:11:29.969 --> 00:11:40.519 And they can do that by teaching others, you know, they could do a presentation in front of the class or they could do a PowerPoint. 00:11:40.549 --> 00:11:45.869 They can use their cell phone to record themselves doing the task. 00:11:46.469 --> 00:11:48.269 And the teacher. 00:11:49.439 --> 00:11:50.639 Has to grade that. 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:53.609 So that makes the teacher become involved in it. 00:11:53.939 --> 00:12:07.339 And we have about 20 schools that with the culinary arts they have the students actually cook the omelets and everything in the classroom. 00:12:07.849 --> 00:12:12.074 So, and then afterwards everybody eats the omelet. 00:12:12.554 --> 00:12:20.254 So you know, the students Can practice it in the virtual reality and then actually get the hands-on experience. 00:12:20.434 --> 00:12:32.944 So one thing with our courses, it's, they're very flexible and they can be used in different, you know, like I said, as a standalone or it things can be added to them. 00:12:33.950 --> 00:12:35.030 Shannon Putman: I cannot. 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:41.900 Express how wonderful that is and how unique of a feature that is. 00:12:41.900 --> 00:12:50.960 Because a lot of the software that I see and the programs that I've experienced don't go to that full level of. 00:12:51.980 --> 00:12:54.200 Of now you've mastered it. 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:59.030 Show me different ways how you've mastered it and teaching others is, I think one of the best ways. 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:09.110 So congratulations on that because that is absolutely unique and I think a game changer when educators are looking at what programs to purchase. 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:09.650 Lynne Henderson: Right? 00:13:09.680 --> 00:13:09.950 Yeah. 00:13:10.130 --> 00:13:17.360 When we developed the courses, we did a lot of research on what was the best way for students to learn and. 00:13:18.095 --> 00:13:22.865 Students now love to go to YouTube to learn how to do everything. 00:13:23.435 --> 00:13:28.605 So the short videos all our videos are usually. 00:13:29.490 --> 00:13:31.530 Four to six minutes. 00:13:31.530 --> 00:13:37.680 We do have some that go up to eight, 10 minutes, but most of them are short. 00:13:37.950 --> 00:13:42.290 It keeps the student's attention and that's the learn category. 00:13:42.890 --> 00:13:47.270 And then the apply are the simulations. 00:13:47.510 --> 00:13:53.630 And it's been proven that when a student can actually do a project. 00:13:54.260 --> 00:13:56.510 Then they retain better. 00:13:56.570 --> 00:14:04.460 And then finally the create where they are actually teaching others that helps the retention rate. 00:14:04.460 --> 00:14:08.990 So we used all of those aspects to put in the course. 00:14:10.425 --> 00:14:19.195 Shannon Putman: refer to that as like a trifecta of terrific ness because it's really has all three aspects that we're striving to get. 00:14:19.195 --> 00:14:25.445 And I also love too that it allows not only the educator but the student to still employ their creativity. 00:14:26.490 --> 00:14:29.765 So you have 'em create, but you don't tell them what to create. 00:14:30.575 --> 00:14:31.535 Lynne Henderson: Right, right. 00:14:31.535 --> 00:14:34.415 And I've gotta tell you this 'cause I thought it was funny. 00:14:34.715 --> 00:14:42.395 On one of our creates, it was for the culinary arts, they were supposed to show how to do a omelet. 00:14:43.265 --> 00:14:54.005 And one of the teachers sent me the video that the student had done and the students started from going out to the chicken coop and getting the egg. 00:14:54.725 --> 00:14:55.565 From the chicken. 00:14:55.835 --> 00:14:57.875 It's amazing going all the way through. 00:14:57.935 --> 00:14:59.315 But I thought that was funny. 00:15:00.485 --> 00:15:02.405 Shannon Putman: That is absolutely amazing. 00:15:02.585 --> 00:15:03.785 See, I would've never thought of that. 00:15:03.815 --> 00:15:08.435 and that student did, so I mean, I mentioned how much fun they probably had with it too. 00:15:08.695 --> 00:15:08.875 Lynne Henderson: Yeah. 00:15:08.875 --> 00:15:13.705 I told the teacher they should definitely get an A just for their creativity. 00:15:14.545 --> 00:15:15.115 Shannon Putman: Yes. 00:15:15.215 --> 00:15:18.005 And I think that's so missing nowadays in education. 00:15:18.065 --> 00:15:29.530 You know, 'cause everything is so standards based in core content and test scores and I think we're losing that creativity that, you know, makes learning fun, right? 00:15:29.920 --> 00:15:30.370 Lynne Henderson: Yes. 00:15:30.370 --> 00:15:30.430 I. 00:15:30.910 --> 00:15:44.340 Shannon Putman: I was even saying that the other day that I'm, what I miss, you know, I don't miss everything about being in the classroom, but my creative outlet, since I don't like Pinterest or any of that kinda stuff, is, you know, understanding how kids learn and then, you know, making the content accessible. 00:15:44.790 --> 00:15:53.190 So that's what I found fun and creative and I've been, I think missing that and that joy that comes with it, because. 00:15:54.350 --> 00:16:00.440 On this end of, you know, the spectrum of education, sometimes it's not as much of the fun stuff, 00:16:00.770 --> 00:16:01.280 Lynne Henderson: right? 00:16:01.400 --> 00:16:01.760 Yeah. 00:16:02.955 --> 00:16:04.695 Shannon Putman: So this has been wonderful. 00:16:04.695 --> 00:16:09.165 We're, I have absolutely enjoyed every minute of it. 00:16:09.165 --> 00:16:10.795 And you're not quite done yet. 00:16:10.795 --> 00:16:26.225 I just have a kind of few wrapping up questions before the closing countdown, but you know, how is it that you ensure that you work with companies and things like that, and that people understand how important the credentialing system is. 00:16:27.620 --> 00:16:41.900 Lynne Henderson: Well, again, when we design our courses, we look at the industry standards, and also when we design our course, we try to find a expert in the field. 00:16:42.650 --> 00:16:50.060 So like if we're developing a welding course, I don't know that much about welding, you know? 00:16:50.330 --> 00:16:53.780 So we have an expert in the field who is. 00:16:54.500 --> 00:17:06.480 Looking at what we're writing, they look at the simulations and tell us, Hey, yep this is right, or No, you need to change this. 00:17:06.980 --> 00:17:14.540 And we also try to align to certifications that are nationally recognized. 00:17:14.855 --> 00:17:22.435 That's very important that you want a certification that is recognized, you know, by employers and by the school. 00:17:23.554 --> 00:17:23.794 Shannon Putman: Absolutely. 00:17:24.405 --> 00:17:32.085 Yeah, those, like you said, those national standards so they can be prepared for wherever, you know, it might take them to get a job. 00:17:32.115 --> 00:17:43.935 'cause you know, I've seen a lot through Kentucky that there just aren't jobs and people are having to leave, you know, their home communities to be able to find work. 00:17:43.935 --> 00:17:47.115 And so it's important that they'll be prepared no matter where they go. 00:17:47.535 --> 00:17:48.015 Lynne Henderson: Right. 00:17:49.470 --> 00:17:50.430 Shannon Putman: Well, wonderful. 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:52.860 Like I said, Lynn, this has been fantastic. 00:17:52.860 --> 00:17:58.485 I need to get some more synonyms to explain how much fun I have with these and talking with you in general. 00:17:58.485 --> 00:18:11.945 And for the audience that doesn't know, Lynn has been amazing and rescheduled like 19 times with me because, my former student, Joe and his team from Bowling Green made the state net the state championship for basketball. 00:18:11.945 --> 00:18:16.625 So she was not only supportive of me, but of the bowling Green purple. 00:18:16.625 --> 00:18:17.525 So thank you for that. 00:18:18.065 --> 00:18:18.905 Lynne Henderson: You're welcome. 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:30.830 Shannon Putman: Is there anything you know, so I know obviously I'm putting links in with the podcast and people can always reach out to Putman Consulting you know, especially part of our product bundles or individually to get certified ed. 00:18:30.830 --> 00:18:36.650 But is there any information you wanna share with them if they wanna get more where they should go or anything like that? 00:18:36.920 --> 00:18:39.020 Lynne Henderson: Yeah, they can call eight. 00:18:40.065 --> 00:18:54.065 9 7 0 1 3 9 3 or they could go to our website, certify ed.com and fill out a request for information. 00:18:54.305 --> 00:18:59.405 And I think the best way to learn about our courses is to set up a demo. 00:18:59.465 --> 00:19:05.265 Let us show you what the courses looked like and what all the all of the components entail. 00:19:06.075 --> 00:19:06.705 Shannon Putman: Perfect. 00:19:06.795 --> 00:19:15.295 And I love that you're willing to show a demo so people can actually experience it and you know, that we know that makes the difference. 00:19:15.505 --> 00:19:15.745 Yes. 00:19:15.745 --> 00:19:16.975 And also props. 00:19:16.975 --> 00:19:20.725 You're the first person that has given a phone number, so yes. 00:19:20.725 --> 00:19:21.475 Thank you. 00:19:22.015 --> 00:19:22.795 You're welcome. 00:19:22.885 --> 00:19:30.505 Everybody else has just been given websites and I appreciate that you actually have a phone number that people can call. 00:19:30.925 --> 00:19:32.665 Yeah, I love phone numbers. 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:35.110 Yes, exactly. 00:19:35.110 --> 00:19:39.700 My grandma used to say she was not gonna have one of those dot coms, and that's what she referred to. 00:19:39.700 --> 00:19:43.300 Anything that had anything to do with the computer, so right. 00:19:45.123 --> 00:19:47.343 Okay, well closing countdown. 00:19:47.343 --> 00:19:48.363 You cannot escape it. 00:19:48.363 --> 00:19:49.353 It's my favorite. 00:19:49.353 --> 00:19:50.853 It's the audience's favorite. 00:19:50.853 --> 00:19:51.723 It's everybody's favorite. 00:19:51.723 --> 00:19:52.953 I don't know, I'm just guessing. 00:19:52.953 --> 00:20:00.583 But to get to know a little bit more about Lynn, what if you had three things to you could do outside of work? 00:20:00.583 --> 00:20:03.253 Absolutely no work related. 00:20:03.613 --> 00:20:04.693 What would you do? 00:20:05.803 --> 00:20:19.173 Lynne Henderson: Well, I have a brand new great nephew who will be one at the end of this month, and I love seeing him playing with him. 00:20:19.413 --> 00:20:26.823 He loves to be outside and we have, you know, call it a, the one of the can ams. 00:20:26.853 --> 00:20:29.013 He loves to ride around in it. 00:20:29.283 --> 00:20:29.733 I love to. 00:20:30.063 --> 00:20:31.893 Take him for rides and that. 00:20:31.893 --> 00:20:35.793 So anything with Travis is fun. 00:20:36.123 --> 00:20:44.843 And then this last year I've started two new I guess you'd say hobbies and one is pickleball. 00:20:46.163 --> 00:20:53.393 I never played, I played tennis but never tried pickleball, and I started playing pickleball and I love it. 00:20:53.933 --> 00:21:00.378 So I've been playing in a couple of leagues and I really enjoy that. 00:21:01.038 --> 00:21:14.538 And then for my birthday last year, I'd always said that when I retired I was gonna get me a potter's wheel and my, he said, you know, most people. 00:21:14.913 --> 00:21:20.673 Say they're traveling, they're doing whatever when they retire, not you say, I'm getting a potter's will. 00:21:21.213 --> 00:21:30.728 And so, my nephew and my niece they gave me a certificate to take a five week pottery course. 00:21:32.048 --> 00:21:36.188 And I went to that and I loved it. 00:21:36.248 --> 00:21:39.548 And so I've continued to take that. 00:21:39.548 --> 00:21:49.263 So on every Monday evenings, I'm either on the wheel or I actually found out I like to hand sculpt too. 00:21:49.833 --> 00:21:53.903 So, I'm letting my artistic side out. 00:21:54.803 --> 00:21:57.573 So those are the three things I like to do. 00:21:58.563 --> 00:22:00.273 How Absolutely 00:22:00.273 --> 00:22:03.333 Shannon Putman: fascinating as a fellow Pickle Baller. 00:22:03.333 --> 00:22:04.143 I agree. 00:22:04.143 --> 00:22:05.313 It's a nice outlet. 00:22:05.313 --> 00:22:12.493 And then also how wonderful with the great nephew, but with the pottery, that was completely unexpected. 00:22:12.553 --> 00:22:16.393 And I do have to ask, do you watch the show, the Great Pottery Throw down? 00:22:16.773 --> 00:22:17.063 Yes. 00:22:17.153 --> 00:22:18.053 Oh my gosh. 00:22:18.053 --> 00:22:18.503 We love it. 00:22:19.703 --> 00:22:20.183 Yes. 00:22:20.243 --> 00:22:20.663 Yeah. 00:22:20.723 --> 00:22:20.933 Yeah. 00:22:20.933 --> 00:22:41.487 Lynne Henderson: And I'm actually going now, since I like it so much, I'm going to build myself a little studio to put a, the wheel in and all, you know, all that stuff I'm, ' cause it gets little old trying to bring out all your stuff and do it and then try putting it all back up. 00:22:41.487 --> 00:22:41.757 So. 00:22:42.597 --> 00:22:45.807 I'm going to build a pottery studio. 00:22:46.677 --> 00:22:49.677 Shannon Putman: How wonderful, how exciting. 00:22:49.677 --> 00:22:55.607 I, when you said, you know, from the wheel, I only knew because of the great pottery throw on the language you're talking. 00:22:55.607 --> 00:22:57.467 So, so shout out to that show. 00:22:57.467 --> 00:23:07.267 If we got any listeners and and to you and I fully expect some sort of, you know, once you get going, I would love to to peruse your collection and purchase a thing or two. 00:23:07.267 --> 00:23:09.787 So, well, you wouldn't have to purchase Shannon. 00:23:09.787 --> 00:23:10.057 Aw. 00:23:10.147 --> 00:23:12.367 Lynne Henderson: Just tell me what you would like. 00:23:12.772 --> 00:23:15.922 And I'll, and I would try to do it for you. 00:23:15.952 --> 00:23:16.852 It won't be perfect. 00:23:16.852 --> 00:23:17.152 Thank you. 00:23:17.267 --> 00:23:18.172 I promise you that. 00:23:18.172 --> 00:23:19.582 'cause I'm just starting. 00:23:20.452 --> 00:23:21.772 Shannon Putman: I love imperfect. 00:23:21.772 --> 00:23:23.392 I think it makes it even more special. 00:23:23.392 --> 00:23:29.322 So I'm a big fan of tea, so if you make a teacup or anything of any design, it doesn't have to be, I. 00:23:29.872 --> 00:23:32.522 Your classic teacup, you can pick the design of it. 00:23:32.912 --> 00:23:33.422 Lynne Henderson: Okay. 00:23:33.632 --> 00:23:34.772 Shannon Putman: That sounds perfect. 00:23:34.982 --> 00:23:35.462 Alright. 00:23:35.462 --> 00:23:36.662 See, look at this. 00:23:36.662 --> 00:23:41.142 Not only did I get an awesome conversation with an amazing person, I'm getting a teacup outta of this. 00:23:41.512 --> 00:23:43.522 An original Yes. 00:23:43.642 --> 00:23:43.822 Oh. 00:23:43.872 --> 00:23:45.675 I'm gonna hold onto it too for really big. 00:23:46.545 --> 00:23:48.135 Well, again, Lynn, thank you so much. 00:23:48.135 --> 00:23:49.755 This has been absolutely wonderful. 00:23:49.835 --> 00:23:59.600 You know, I feel like I've been saying a lot, so people aren't going to believe me or think it's disingenuous, but everybody that I've been having on the pop and everything I truly consider friends. 00:23:59.600 --> 00:24:04.760 And you've been supportive of me and my journey from the very beginning since we met at that conference. 00:24:04.760 --> 00:24:07.010 So, I want to thank you from a professional. 00:24:07.335 --> 00:24:11.315 A personal level and I just love what you're doing in any way I can support it. 00:24:11.315 --> 00:24:13.445 And thank you for always being so supportive of me. 00:24:13.445 --> 00:24:17.120 And I cherish you and I'm excited for what's to come. 00:24:17.870 --> 00:24:26.390 Lynne Henderson: Well, thank you very much for being my friend and a coworker and for inviting me to be on this. 00:24:26.450 --> 00:24:28.820 I really enjoyed our conversation. 00:24:29.660 --> 00:24:29.930 Shannon Putman: Yay. 00:24:30.290 --> 00:24:31.400 Well, thank you so much.