What does it take to turn big ideas into lasting infrastructure?
In this episode, we sit down with two MCFA team members, Michael Fuhrman and Brian Pieplow, to dig into their new book, Make No Little Plans: A Planning as a Project Development Approach to Building Infrastructure. Michael, Co-Founder of MCFA, and Brian, Chief Project Development Officer, bring a combined wealth of expertise to MCFA.
Michael’s extensive background in environmental permitting, land use planning, and regulatory compliance aligns projects with sustainable standards. Brian’s leadership is in professional growth and skill-building strategies. This combination keeps MCFA’s talent at the forefront of industry best practices.
In our conversation, we discuss what they hope readers will take away from it. Learn about their discover, navigate, accelerate (D-N-A) process described in the book and how it benefits professionals in the industry. Explore common misconceptions around urban planning, what it takes to be an agency champion, and why the time is now for public infrastructure and planning.
They also discuss the power of curiosity in urban planning, share recommendations for budding urban planners, unpack the policy shifts needed, and explore what it takes to be successful in the industry. Join us to discover how big projects and outcomes start with small plans and the steps to get there with Michael Fuhrman and Brian Pieplow.
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Key Points From This Episode:
• The meaning behind the title 'Make No Little Plans' and what inspired it.
• Unpack the "planning as a project development approach" concept.
• Hear real-world examples of applying the D-N-A approach to planning.
• Their passion for urban planning and what got them interested in it.
• Challenging the status quo of urban planning and what needs to change.
• Brian and Michael share the impact they are hoping to achieve with the book.
Quotes:
“Big projects and big outcomes start with small plans.” — Brian Pieplow
“When you see things like a bridge, road, or building, it all started with a plan and an idea.” — Michael Fuhrman
“Every project is going to die a thousand deaths along its journey that is worthwhile and complex.” — Brian Pieplow
“I hope for young professionals to really grasp what we are saying, and there is a way to get things done. There is light at the end of the tunnel.” — Michael Fuhrman
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