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Daisy and Astoria break down the Gary Payton strain (yes, named after The Glove), the DEA's June 29 rescheduling hearing, cannabis businesses intervening to defend Schedule III, and Glass House Brands hitting the NYSE right behind Trulieve.
This week: a strain named after the loudest man in NBA history that reviewers say shuts you up, plus the DEA rescheduling hearing finally opens and weed hits the NYSE.
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Daisy: —no but that's the thing, that's the WHOLE thing, it's named after Gary Payton.
Astoria: The basketball guy.
Daisy: The basketball guy! The Glove. The trash-talk guy. The guy whose entire brand was making other grown men cry at half court.
Astoria: Okay.
Daisy: And the strain... makes you shut up.
Astoria: Wait what.
Daisy: I'm serious. It's like they named a muzzle after a megaphone.
Astoria: Daisy. That can't be right.
Daisy: Astoria, I have receipts. Well. I have a Leafly page and a personal incident. Which is basically peer review.
Astoria: That is NOT peer review.
Daisy: It's a hybrid. It's a cross of The Y and Snowman, bred by like, Powerzzzup Genetics with Cookies, and Leafly says the THC runs higher than average.
Astoria: Higher than average how? Like...
Daisy: Like, higher. Than. Average. That is the technical term Leafly used and I am not going to pretend I know the number.
Astoria: Fair.
Daisy: I don't! I truly don't. I looked at the page and my eyes did the... the thing where they scroll but don't read.
Astoria: The scroll-glaze.
Daisy: The scroll-glaze, yes. Anyway. Reviewers say giggly, talkative, relaxed. Clear-headed brain buzz up front, then a mellow body thing settles in.
Astoria: Okay so it's not a couch strain.
Daisy: It's... it's a couch strain that lets you keep the conversation going. Which is a lie my body did not respect.
Astoria: Here we go.
Daisy: So Sunday. Right? Sunday. I'm at Marco's, we're gonna watch a movie, I bring like a little bit of Gary Payton because I'd read this Leafly 2026 hot strains preview thing—
Astoria: Oh you did HOMEWORK.
Daisy: I did homework! For weed!
Astoria: You've never done homework for anything.
Daisy: I did homework for weed and taxes, and one of those I did badly.
Astoria: Which one.
Daisy: Not telling.
Astoria: Okay. Movie night. Go.
Daisy: Movie night. I take one hit. ONE. Because Leafly said caryophyllene-forward, anxiety-slaying, chill-inducing, and I was like great, I'm gonna be a chill little conversationalist.
Astoria: Sure.
Daisy: Ten minutes in I am explaining, at length, to Marco's roommate, the plot of a movie we are currently watching.
Astoria: No.
Daisy: While it is happening. On the screen. In front of us.
Astoria: Daisy.
Daisy: I was like, "okay so THIS guy? He's the brother." And Marco's roommate goes, "yeah, they just said that."
Astoria: Oh my god.
Daisy: And then I got quiet. For like forty minutes.
Astoria: The Glove locked you up.
Daisy: The Glove LOCKED ME UP. Astoria, I got cross-checked by a hybrid.
Astoria: That's a great sentence.
Daisy: It's the flavor too, it's like... sweet, fuel, stone fruit, which sounds fake—
Astoria: Stone fruit? Like a plum?
Daisy: Like a plum-adjacent situation. Yeah.
Astoria: Weed people have really committed to the fruit vocabulary lately.
Daisy: They HAVE. When did we become sommeliers.
Astoria: I don't know. But I don't hate it.
Daisy: You don't hate it because you're the one who was sniffing a jar last week going, "I'm getting NOTES."
Astoria: I was getting notes.
Daisy: You were getting the note of "weed."
Astoria: Okay, hey—
Daisy: The note of "green."
Astoria: Rude.
Daisy: Sorry, sorry.
Astoria: Okay so is this the rec? Are we recommending Gary Payton?
Daisy: This is the rec. If you can find it. Real strain, real name, real "shut up on the couch" energy. Great for like, one friend, one couch, a show you've seen before so you don't ruin it.
Astoria: Not for a party.
Daisy: NOT for a party. Do not bring The Glove to a party. Gary Payton at a party is you sitting on a beanbag telling someone very slowly about a podcast.
Astoria: So... this podcast.
Daisy: Wow. Rude AND accurate.
Astoria: Okay pivot. Because there's actual news.
Daisy: There IS actual news, oh my god. Astoria, do the news voice.
Astoria: I'm not doing the news voice.
Daisy: Do the news voice.
Astoria: The DEA started its rescheduling hearing.
Daisy: YES.
Astoria: June 29. The whole thing about moving cannabis from Schedule I to Schedule III finally got in front of the actual hearing.
Daisy: Which we've been promised for like, a geological era.
Astoria: A long time, yes.
Daisy: I was in middle school when they started saying "any day now."
Astoria: You were not.
Daisy: Emotionally I was.
Astoria: Okay. Here's the part I actually think is wild though. Weed businesses jumped INTO the anti-rescheduling lawsuit.
Daisy: Wait, on which side.
Astoria: On the side of KEEPING the DEA's plan alive. So there's this lawsuit trying to block rescheduling, and cannabis companies intervened to defend it.
Daisy: Hold on—
Astoria: Yeah.
Daisy: —so the weed industry is lawyering up... to protect a DEA proposal.
Astoria: Correct.
Daisy: That is such a 2026 sentence.
Astoria: It's a very 2026 sentence.
Daisy: The people we spent decades being scared of the weed people are now the weed people's legal team.
Astoria: Not exactly, but—
Daisy: Let me have it.
Astoria: Fine. Have it.
Daisy: Thank you.
Astoria: Meanwhile the reform groups, like NORML and NCIA, are cranky about the hearing itself.
Daisy: Cranky how.
Astoria: They're saying the witness list tilts toward opponents of rescheduling. So the people arguing against are getting more mic time than the people arguing for.
Daisy: Of course.
Astoria: Marijuana Moment had this whole thing about it.
Daisy: See, this is why I don't follow policy stuff, it's always... it's always like, "great news!" and then a footnote that says "however."
Astoria: The however is where they get you.
Daisy: The however is ALWAYS where they get you. It's like ordering a salad and there's a however.
Astoria: What?
Daisy: I don't know, I got distracted, my brain is still slightly Gary Payton'd.
Astoria: It's been three days.
Daisy: Astoria, it's a lifestyle now.
Astoria: Oh boy.
Daisy: Okay hit me with the Wall Street thing. Because you texted me about the Wall Street thing.
Astoria: Okay so. Glass House Brands—
Daisy: Sounds like a candle company.
Astoria: It's a California cultivator.
Daisy: Okay.
Astoria: They got approved to list on the NYSE.
Daisy: The New York Stock Exchange NYSE.
Astoria: The one. And they're the second US plant-touching operator on a major American exchange. After Trulieve, which started trading on the NYSE in mid-June.
Daisy: Wait, plant-touching means what.
Astoria: Means they actually grow it or sell it. Not just, like, an ancillary business.
Daisy: Huh.
Astoria: Yeah.
Daisy: So... your grandma's index fund might now technically own a weed farm.
Astoria: Kind of, yeah.
Daisy: My grandma. Owns a grow op. Passively.
Astoria: Passive grow op ownership.
Daisy: That's my new band name.
Astoria: I love that for her.
Daisy: She'd HATE it. She'd hate it so much.
Astoria: Would she though?
Daisy: Okay you're right, she would ask questions and then get weirdly into it.
Astoria: Every grandma is one podcast episode away from being pro-weed.
Daisy: Every grandma. Truly.
Astoria: Also Congress re-filed the banking bill.
Daisy: The bank thing.
Astoria: The bank thing.
Daisy: Which is the one where dispensaries can't have real bank accounts so they're all running on cash.
Astoria: Right, and bipartisan groups in the Senate and House put it back on the table. Just, like, again.
Daisy: They keep re-filing it.
Astoria: They keep re-filing it.
Daisy: It's like when you send a text and your friend doesn't answer so you just send the same text again three weeks later.
Astoria: "Hey just bumping this."
Daisy: "Hey Congress, just bumping this."
Astoria: I do think it's kind of amazing though. Like, the weed industry is now on the exchange, and ALSO can't hold money like a normal business.
Daisy: They're publicly traded and unbanked.
Astoria: Publicly traded and unbanked. Put it on a shirt.
Daisy: That's a shirt.
Astoria: Okay pop culture take.
Daisy: Oh god.
Astoria: You said you had one.
Daisy: I did say I had one.
Astoria: What is it.
Daisy: Okay. Hot take. And this is a Gary-Payton-informed take, so factor that in.
Astoria: Noted.
Daisy: I think we, culturally, are done with the trash-talk era.
Astoria: Meaning what.
Daisy: Meaning. Everyone online is a Gary Payton. Everyone. Every take is trash talk. Every reply is a crossover. Everyone's dunking. No one is playing defense.
Astoria: Okay.
Daisy: And I think what people actually WANT now, in like, media, in podcasts, in comedy... is the Gary Payton STRAIN version. Shut up, sit down, be funny with your friend, have a plum note.
Astoria: Have a plum note.
Daisy: Have a plum note!
Astoria: I don't know if I agree.
Daisy: Push back.
Astoria: I think trash talk is fine when it's actually clever. The problem isn't trash talk, it's that it stopped being clever.
Daisy: Hmm.
Astoria: Gary Payton the person was FUNNY. He was talking smack, but it was crafted. Now people are just being mean and calling it a bit.
Daisy: Okay. Okay, that's fair.
Astoria: Thank you.
Daisy: I concede.
Astoria: You concede?
Daisy: I concede. Because you're right and also because my legs feel heavy again just from thinking about it.
Astoria: Sympathy high.
Daisy: Sympathy high, real thing.
Astoria: Okay so what's the takeaway. Give me the one thing.
Daisy: One thing.
Astoria: One thing.
Daisy: The one thing is: if you're gonna try Gary Payton — real strain, actually named after him, hybrid, higher THC — do it on a couch. With one person. On a show you've already seen. And do not try to narrate the movie.
Astoria: The specific instruction.
Daisy: The specific instruction is do not narrate the movie.
Astoria: Marco's roommate agrees.
Daisy: Marco's roommate is still healing.
Astoria: Okay.
Daisy: And on the news side—
Astoria: Pay attention to the rescheduling hearing but don't get your hopes up in a straight line, because the industry is now doing the thing where they defend the DEA, which is weird.
Daisy: That was so clean.
Astoria: Thank you.
Daisy: You've been sitting on that.
Astoria: I have been sitting on that.
Daisy: Astoria has notes.
Astoria: Astoria has notes.
Daisy: Okay, that's the ep. That's Gary Payton, the man, the strain, the muzzle.
Astoria: The muzzle.
Daisy: If you want more of this energy, more strain talk, more of me embarrassing myself on someone's couch—
Astoria: More of that specifically—
Daisy: More of that specifically, go to mncannabishub dot com. That's where we live.
Astoria: That's where we live.
Daisy: Be nice to each other. Don't narrate the movie.
Astoria: Bye.
Daisy: Bye.
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