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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Bible Guys. We are

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<v Speaker 2>Chris and Wesley.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, good to be back.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you excited? Wesley?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I am excited.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a good day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Thursday because we found out that what we are Now,

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<v Speaker 1>where's a platinum edition?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I forgot to say that. Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible Guys, Platinum edition and uh yeah, Jeff's out of pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>and so today we are going to be the Bible Guys. So, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we are about to jump into Matthew or excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>Malachi chapter four.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we do three, oh it's still the oh

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<v Speaker 1>yeah three.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my bad, continuing three. But before we do, we

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<v Speaker 2>have a segment put together by Desiree. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>an unusual segment. It's actually relatively new and uh it

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<v Speaker 2>says that it's called the Bible Guys Jingle, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>as we're working our way through old TV show theme

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<v Speaker 2>songs and rebranding them to work to the Bibble Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do the Jetsons for today's episode. Now, First of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fifty four. How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I am forty eight. I had to think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, forty eight. Now do you remember the Jetsons?

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember, like when I was a kid, it

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<v Speaker 1>came on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I mean, like, if you're younger than you,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody knows the Jetsons, right, they may know the reference,

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<v Speaker 2>but they certainly don't know the tune. And so Desiree

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<v Speaker 2>is younger than you and.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, She's like, yeah, how do you, Desiree? She's thirty two.

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<v Speaker 2>So Desiree is thirty two. And so I said, I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>do you realize that the Jetsons only have four lines

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<v Speaker 2>in the whole opening credit? She said no, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea. So I asked chat Gpt to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>But just in case you don't know, it starts off

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<v Speaker 2>with this all this big or straban and it zooms

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<v Speaker 2>in on the earth and it's like and he goes

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<v Speaker 2>meet George Jetson his boy el Roy. That's it, and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes he flies in no daughter, g and the he

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<v Speaker 2>goes and he goes Jane, his wife, do do do

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<v Speaker 1>Do? Do?

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<v Speaker 2>Do do do? And he goes bye, ba and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's literally like four lives. And so I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's ask chat GPT. So what I The question

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<v Speaker 2>I asked was, I said, would you please write a

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<v Speaker 2>theme song about the Bible guys a podcast where two

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<v Speaker 2>guys talk about the Bible and fun and practical ways,

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<v Speaker 2>uh to the theme of the Jetsons. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>actually had to ask it to make sure that it

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<v Speaker 2>was only four lines, because originally it just gave me

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<v Speaker 2>something different. I said, no, no, I said, the theme song

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<v Speaker 2>only has four lines, and it's four syllables per line,

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<v Speaker 2>even though it's Jane his wife has three. But that's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I just left it at four syllables. And

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<v Speaker 2>so this is what we have. Are you ready? Okay? Ready?

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<v Speaker 2>Do do do do do do do do do do

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<v Speaker 2>do do. Meet Bible guys thinking they're wise, taking the

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<v Speaker 2>word do do do do do do do do do

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<v Speaker 2>do do do do what you heard? That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need like a real drummer out here

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<v Speaker 1>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't even take the music, but most of it's

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<v Speaker 2>the music. So meet Bible guys thinking they're wise, taking

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<v Speaker 2>the word do what you.

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<v Speaker 1>Heard, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we don't even need to do today's lesson. Do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, Just do what you heard. That's what you

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<v Speaker 2>have to do. So what a riveting segment that we

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<v Speaker 2>get done super quick, you know. And speaking of riveting, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's riveting. Is when God starts to predict

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<v Speaker 2>the future. That is riveting. That's pretty good, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because hey, listen, whenever the future is predicted back then,

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<v Speaker 2>especially uh, you know, the note that Life Application Study

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<v Speaker 2>Bible says one of the reasons why the people were

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<v Speaker 2>so discouraged is because the future hadn't come to fruition yet. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>all the prophets of the exciting prophecies of Jonah and

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<v Speaker 2>the prophecies of Isaiah and Jeremiah and all these different

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<v Speaker 2>prophecies that are laid out in the Bible, they hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>come true yet. So the people were getting discouraging, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>discouraged about their faith and about you know, their obedience. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually even down to the priests and the and

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<v Speaker 2>the religious leaders, none of them we're keeping the commandments,

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<v Speaker 2>even close to the commandments. They were living as hypocrites

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<v Speaker 2>and as pagans because the fulfillment of the future is

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<v Speaker 2>riveting Wesley. Yes, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That you win the Transition award.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to Malachi third chapter, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>Versus six through eighteen. And it says, I am the Lord.

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<v Speaker 1>I do not change. This is why you descendants of Jacob,

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<v Speaker 1>are not already destroyed. Ever since the days of your ancestors,

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<v Speaker 1>you have scorned my decrees and failed to obey them.

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<v Speaker 1>Now return to me, and I will return to you,

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<v Speaker 1>says the Lord of Heaven's Armies. But you ask, how

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<v Speaker 1>can we re return when we have never gone away?

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<v Speaker 1>Should people cheat God? Yet you have cheated me, But

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<v Speaker 1>you ask, what do you mean? When did we ever

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<v Speaker 1>cheat you? You have cheated me of the tithes and

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<v Speaker 1>offerings due to me. You are under a curse, for

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<v Speaker 1>your whole nation has been cheating me. Bring all the

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<v Speaker 1>tides into the storehouse so there will be enough food

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<v Speaker 1>in my temple. If you do, says the Lord of

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<v Speaker 1>Heaven's Armies, I will open up the windows of heaven

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<v Speaker 1>for you. I will pour out a blessing so great

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<v Speaker 1>you won't have enough room to take it in. Try it.

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<v Speaker 1>Put me to the test. Your crops will be abundant,

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<v Speaker 1>for I will guard them from insects and disease. Your

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<v Speaker 1>grapes will not fall from the vine before they are right,

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<v Speaker 1>says the Lord of Heaven's Armies. Then all nations will

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<v Speaker 1>call you blessed, for your land will be such a delight,

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<v Speaker 1>says the Lord of Heaven's Armies. You have said terrible

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<v Speaker 1>things about me, says the Lord. But you say, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you mean? What have we said against you? Verse fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>You have said, what's the use of serving God? What

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<v Speaker 1>have we gained by obeying his commands? Or by trying

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<v Speaker 1>to show the Lord of Heaven's Armies that we are

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for our sins. From now on we will call

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<v Speaker 1>the arrogant blest, for those who do evil get rich,

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<v Speaker 1>and those who dare God to punish them suffer no harm.

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<v Speaker 1>Then those who feared the Lord spoke with each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Lord listened to what they said. In his presence.

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<v Speaker 1>A scroll of remembrance was written to record the names

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<v Speaker 1>of those who feared him and always thought about the

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<v Speaker 1>honor of his name Verse seventeen. They will be my people,

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<v Speaker 1>says the Lord of Heaven's Armies. On the day when

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<v Speaker 1>I act in judgment. They will be my own special treasure.

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<v Speaker 1>I will spare them as a father spares an obedient child.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you will again see the difference between the righteous

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<v Speaker 1>and the wicked, between those who serve God and those

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<v Speaker 1>who do not. That's good there, it is in verse six.

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<v Speaker 1>I like how it starts off where it says, I

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<v Speaker 1>am the Lord. I do not change. Earlier o the week,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about that, the fact that God is the

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<v Speaker 1>same yesterday, today and forever, and how he is unchanging

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<v Speaker 1>and fine comfort in that, the fact that God is steadfast. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>if he said it, he will do it. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>God that is faithful and just. I love that about

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<v Speaker 1>our God. Not I love the fact that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to wake up in the morning. What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mood is God in today? He's the same yesterday, today

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<v Speaker 1>and forever. So I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's the reason why like a covenant. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, yesterday we talked about the word covenant. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what the word covenant means. It means a promise

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<v Speaker 2>until death.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, what that means?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, And so that's why it's so significant. So like,

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, like you know, you had a wedding. How

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<v Speaker 2>many how many years you've been married?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty It will be twenty four years in June. See,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I was testing you.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it right, good answer. And so my wife

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<v Speaker 2>and I were thirty three years and so and so

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<v Speaker 2>when we stood up there and we made a promise

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<v Speaker 2>to each other. It is actually we're entering into it.

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<v Speaker 2>They call it a marriage covenant.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why they call it a cove it is

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<v Speaker 2>because you say, until death do us part, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the reason why it's able to be called a

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<v Speaker 2>marriage covenant. Well, that's the reason why it's so significant

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<v Speaker 2>that God should make a covenant to us because guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>God never dies. So when God enters the covenants with us,

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<v Speaker 2>he never dies. Which is which is? Which is? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I am the Lord. I do not change Verse six SSS.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. So you know remember in Genesis chapter nine,

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<v Speaker 2>what did God do? God says, I'm gonna make a

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<v Speaker 2>covenant with you. I'm gonna put a rainbow in the

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<v Speaker 2>sky because I'm going to remind you that every time

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<v Speaker 2>it rains, I'm going to remind you that I will

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<v Speaker 2>never again destroy the earth with water. Because this is

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<v Speaker 2>right after the flood right in Genesis nine. And so

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<v Speaker 2>from that day until this day, when it rains, what

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<v Speaker 2>do we see in the sky rainbows? So many people

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand, like that's not just pretty. A scientist may

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<v Speaker 2>scientific reason of the reason why light off a water

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<v Speaker 2>particles something with the curvature of the earth and it

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<v Speaker 2>makes a bow. For these reasons, It's like, no, no, no, no, no no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just how God chose to show his covenant, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Science proves that God has a reasonable explanation for the rainbow.

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<v Speaker 2>But the purpose of the rainbow is God put that

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<v Speaker 2>in motion to remind us every single time, Hey, don't worry,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get scared when it rains. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>destroy humankind with water. It may seem like it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to rain a long time, guess what, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>stop because I'm gonna put my rainbow there every single time.

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<v Speaker 2>God never changes from the time of the Old Testament

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<v Speaker 2>until now. From Genesis until now, God still keeps his

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<v Speaker 2>promise right, and so all the promises that God kept

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<v Speaker 2>in the Old Testament, you better believe that he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep his promises that he gives us in the

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<v Speaker 2>New Testament to the Church believer.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's refreshing to know when you're going through a

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<v Speaker 1>tough time, to know that God keeps his promise, says,

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<v Speaker 1>even when it doesn't look good, even when your situation

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<v Speaker 1>looks bad, you can't figure out how am I going

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of this one? God still keeps his promises. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the situation may not unfold the way you desire, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, God never said he had to follow your

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<v Speaker 1>script or what you want it. But God does keep

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it it reminds me of Psalm seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to go on and talk about this, but

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<v Speaker 2>but Psalm seventy seven is that it's patterned that way.

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<v Speaker 2>The first ten verses say God, have you have you

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<v Speaker 2>forgotten me? And then and then in verse number eleven

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<v Speaker 2>it turns and says, but then I remember your faithfulness. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>from long ago, I remember how you did X, Y

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<v Speaker 2>and Z, and how you know what God is as

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<v Speaker 2>great as our God? Right that that you know? To

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<v Speaker 2>whom else shall we run? You know? You know, because

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<v Speaker 2>because you're the one that we should run to, which

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's good.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway that that's that's all found in verse number six.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we move on. And then he goes on

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<v Speaker 2>have cheated me. But you ask, what do you mean

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<v Speaker 2>when do we cheat you? And he lays out and

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<v Speaker 2>tithes and offerings. Now, what's so interesting about the word

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<v Speaker 2>tithe is again the life application study. Bible has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of really cool things, and it says many ancient

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<v Speaker 2>peoples observe the practice of tithing, that is, giving a

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<v Speaker 2>tenth of their earnings of produce, of harvest, etc. Back

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<v Speaker 2>to a leader or to a god. Malachi's reminded of

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<v Speaker 2>the people of God's command to tithe. The first instance

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<v Speaker 2>is Abraham's tithe to Melchzedek. And then in the book

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<v Speaker 2>of Leviticus, and it gives all the chapters and all

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<v Speaker 2>the verses. These are the different references to tithes. The

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<v Speaker 2>Israelites were required to tithe of their crops, their fruit,

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<v Speaker 2>and their hurts. The Levites were given the tithe as

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<v Speaker 2>their support. The Levites in turn gave a tithe of

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<v Speaker 2>the tithe to support the priests, and the Israelites were

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<v Speaker 2>to bring their tithes to Jerusalem and offerings. When it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the form of ritual meals which Levites were

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<v Speaker 2>invited to share, and of Jerusalem was too far of

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<v Speaker 2>a person to transport the tithe. He could take the

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<v Speaker 2>tithe there in the form of money, which is where

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<v Speaker 2>we find the temple, right, Yeah, the temple in Jerusalem

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<v Speaker 2>in Jesus' time when they would buy lambs and goats

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<v Speaker 2>and things, right yeah. And then there's two more references.

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<v Speaker 2>God promises blessings for those who faithfully tithe and says

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<v Speaker 2>that refusing to tithe is like robbing him that we

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<v Speaker 2>just read. And then tithing without love or obedience to

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<v Speaker 2>God amounts to nothing more than a meaningless ritual in Luke,

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<v Speaker 2>which is to your point a couple days ago, How's

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<v Speaker 2>it's the heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Behind the heart issue. Yeah, it's not about the money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. God doesn't need your money.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the references to tithe in Leviticus and in

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<v Speaker 2>Numbers and in Deuteronomy. Countless things in Deuteronomy, and then

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<v Speaker 2>in Malachi, and then in Matthew, and then also in Luke.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to throw a curve ball at you

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<v Speaker 1>because a lady asked this question to me, this is

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<v Speaker 1>like three four years ago, and she said, I do tithe,

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<v Speaker 1>so a ten percent of her income she would actually

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<v Speaker 1>set aside. But this is what she would do. She

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<v Speaker 1>would like take five percent, give that to the church.

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<v Speaker 1>Another the other five percent, maybe she would give to

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<v Speaker 1>like a homeless shelter or something like that. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>break apart your tithe you like divvy it up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a great question. So there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>debate about this. But keep in mind that they were

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to bring their tithes to the local storehouse, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the local church, right. It represents the local church.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you give a tithe to the church, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to understand that like today, we're supposed to tie

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, give our tithes to the church, our

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<v Speaker 2>offerings to the church. Well, Jesus didn't die for parachurch organizations.

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus didn't die for nonprofits, right, And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the board of a nonprofit, yeah, right, of

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<v Speaker 2>a parachurch organization, so I definitely believe in them. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a sex trafficking uh, you know, anti sex

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<v Speaker 2>trafficking cause, so so certainly, you know that's a worthy donation, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But we have to understand that Jesus died for the church,

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<v Speaker 2>and so you know, the church is the bride and

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<v Speaker 2>and you know all the other ministries that are that

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<v Speaker 2>are connected to Jesus's mission are the bride's maids. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and so and so yes, I believe that that your

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<v Speaker 2>your tithes and offerings should go to the church. And

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<v Speaker 2>then and then over and above, which I guess would

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<v Speaker 2>be offerings right, ties to the church offerings if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to, uh, which would be over and above your tithes,

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<v Speaker 2>you can give to other ministries. So so yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>And it actually supports that. In the scripture in verse ten,

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<v Speaker 1>it says bring all the tithes into the storehouse. I

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<v Speaker 1>think another Bible translation says bring the whole tithe right

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<v Speaker 1>into the storehouse.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so we can't break it apart. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>what she was trying to do wasn't She didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>evil intent. She was trying to be a blessing to

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<v Speaker 1>other people. But in her mind, yeah, I can take

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<v Speaker 1>two percent, give it here, you know, give four percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the church, give three percent there, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and there's a lot of different and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different interpretations about heart issues. Like people

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<v Speaker 2>would say like, oh, is it tithing off the gross

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<v Speaker 2>or is it is it tithing off the net? And

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<v Speaker 2>then and then people would say, well, it's about the heart,

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<v Speaker 2>and they use the heart to you know, say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>where's your heart? What kind of blessing do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>And and but but yet there's no direct specific, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>specification on tithe or Engrosser nets. And I mean these

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<v Speaker 2>are these are these are debates that have gone on

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<v Speaker 2>for centuries centuries, right, Yeah, and people go back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth on it, and they'd say, well, you know, is

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<v Speaker 2>tithe New Testament or is it Old Testament? And so

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<v Speaker 2>just just so everybody knows. At Heritage Church, we we

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<v Speaker 2>we say tithe is the model of the Old Testament.

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<v Speaker 2>The commandment that Jesus supports. He references tithe, He supports

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<v Speaker 2>it when he talks about you know, hey, you know

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<v Speaker 2>you tithe of your your cumen and your and your spices,

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<v Speaker 2>right and and and you should do so right. So

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus supports these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's referenced in the New.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's referenced in Matthew. It's referenced in Luke. So

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<v Speaker 2>we would say at Heritage Church, we would say the

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<v Speaker 2>Biblical model is, uh, you know, tithe a ten percent

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<v Speaker 2>off the top of your income. And then and then

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<v Speaker 2>offerings are over and above a tithe. And then there's

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<v Speaker 2>a third kind of offering alms, alms right.

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<v Speaker 1>That you can give out to the Salvation army bucket

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, because alms in the Old test the in

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<v Speaker 2>the Old Testament and New Testament are for the moment

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<v Speaker 2>kind of givings. Yeah right, it's the spare change in

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<v Speaker 2>your pocket kind of thing, right when they would collect alms.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's so there's tithes, there's offerings, and then there's alms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah. So yeah, so when it comes down to tithing,

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<v Speaker 2>how how have you experienced uh, you know, honoring God

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<v Speaker 2>and your finances? Has that? Have you seen God work

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<v Speaker 2>in that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So when we and I mentioned this in a

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<v Speaker 1>previous episode, when I was laid off from my job,

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<v Speaker 1>we made a decision we would continue to tithe no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what. That was just a decision when we're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to backtrack on God or anything. And God, there

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<v Speaker 1>was not one bill that we had in that timeframe

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<v Speaker 1>that went unpaid. Don't ask me how we got money from,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like we sent off for there was someone

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<v Speaker 1>who owed us money and we sent a letter and

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<v Speaker 1>they sent the money. Like every single month, God provided

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<v Speaker 1>in some kind of way to make sure that every

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<v Speaker 1>bill that we have was paid for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's right. And it doesn't always work out

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<v Speaker 2>that way. Yeah, true, but God definitely always works right.

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<v Speaker 2>Like for instance, between my jobs, I was almost kicked

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<v Speaker 2>and yet we tithed, right, So it doesn't always it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't always mean that God's gonna, you know, just magically

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<v Speaker 2>produce money, because after all, that's sort of a prosperity gospel, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the prosperity gospel. As we give in order to get,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to give in order to be richer. And

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<v Speaker 2>some people teach that, don't they, you know, And we

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<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily believe that that the blessings that come have

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<v Speaker 2>to be monetary. The blessings that God promises when tithing

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<v Speaker 2>is that God would take care of us, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>it is money, sometimes it is God will show up miraculously.

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<v Speaker 2>Make sure that your credit score is never going to

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<v Speaker 2>go down right, and then sometimes it just does. But

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<v Speaker 2>God always takes care of you in other ways. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you, financially, I have seen God show up

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<v Speaker 2>in the ways that you're talking about. I have seen

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<v Speaker 2>money come in the mail that doesn't make any sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen things down to the very dollar, down to

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<v Speaker 2>the dollar where it's just like we need to exactly

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<v Speaker 2>like one and ten dollars and a check came for

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<v Speaker 2>one ten dollars. I'm not even kidding, you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>a refund for something that we didn't expect. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen God show up miraculously providing financially in

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<v Speaker 1>And I love when that happens because we can't take

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<v Speaker 1>credit for it. That's what we can't say. So we

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<v Speaker 1>can't take credit for it, and we can't say it

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<v Speaker 1>was coincidence. When it's something like that and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>to the specific dollar, it's like, Okay, God, this was you,

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<v Speaker 1>and we give him the credit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah and me. And let me be clear as well

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<v Speaker 2>to say that the time that I referred to just

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<v Speaker 2>now is almost being foreclosed upon. Eventually, God showed up

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<v Speaker 2>in that situation as well. And of course I did

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<v Speaker 2>not lose my house, and and God took care of

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<v Speaker 2>me in a great way. And I would I would

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<v Speaker 2>venturely say in that situation he showed up just in

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<v Speaker 2>the nicked time, you know. So it happens that way

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<v Speaker 2>as well, so you know. But the bottom line is

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<v Speaker 2>is God asks us to walk in faith in all

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<v Speaker 2>areas of our life, and tithing is no different right.

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<v Speaker 2>And people are funny about money, aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, this is one of the This is my hypothesis.

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<v Speaker 1>My theory here is that God could have chosen anything

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<v Speaker 1>He could have, in his infinite wisdom, could have chosen

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<v Speaker 1>anything you can. Yeah, he could have. But I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that God chose the thing that humanity loves the most,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that you'll kill for, the thing that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>I want that not because I have a useful I

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<v Speaker 1>don't need your money, but the thing that your heart

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<v Speaker 1>is so attached to. I want you to give me that. Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the phrase that says God gave us, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to over two thousand verses talking about finances in the

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<v Speaker 2>Bible more than ten times than any other topic in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible, because he knew that money is the chief

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<v Speaker 2>competitor for our affection. Yeah, it is, That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the chief Money is the chief competitor for our

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<v Speaker 2>affection and loyalty. And so God asks us to have

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<v Speaker 2>faith when it comes to you know, our choices and business,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to our parenting, when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>our life decisions, when it comes to dating, when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to marriage, when it comes to all things, and

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<v Speaker 2>then also when it comes to our finance, and and

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's no different. And so make no mistake

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<v Speaker 2>of it. You know, when when when God designed the church,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the way that God designed the church because

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<v Speaker 2>he designed giving as an individual practice right. So when

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<v Speaker 2>I give my tithe, that is a Chris czar Ba

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<v Speaker 2>and and and Chris Arba's family thing. It has to

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<v Speaker 2>do with our faith as a family. It has to

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<v Speaker 2>do with my faith individually, that's it. So it's an

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<v Speaker 2>individual practice right of giving. But then God involves the

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<v Speaker 2>corporate tithe too, you know, for all the church to

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<v Speaker 2>give to the storehouse, so that God calls the church

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<v Speaker 2>to be on mission to reach the world. So God's

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<v Speaker 2>God put all the eggs in the baskets of the church.

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<v Speaker 2>The church is God's Plan A and Plan B. The

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<v Speaker 2>church is God's hope for the world. So God calls

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<v Speaker 2>us corporately to this mission, which God uses the tithe for.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love the way that God designed the church

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<v Speaker 2>and the way that God asks us to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway back to my original thought, which was, as

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<v Speaker 2>church leaders, if we don't preach on marriage, then we

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<v Speaker 2>are disobeying God. If we don't teach on obedience and

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<v Speaker 2>being faithful with anger or forgiveness in relationships, we're being

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<v Speaker 2>disobedient to God. And as pastors, if we don't teach

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<v Speaker 2>on obedience and finance, we're being disobedient to God.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't preach half the word.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, we can't. We can't discriminate. So a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of times as leaders we shy away. There are so

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<v Speaker 2>many pastors that shy away from preaching about money because

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, oh, people get offended. Yeah, but people also

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<v Speaker 2>get offended when you say God says that sex is

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<v Speaker 2>reserved for marriage, right, People get offended by that. They say,

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<v Speaker 2>stay out of my business. Right, And so it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell me what to do, don't tell me what

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<v Speaker 2>to do with you know, I can get angry if

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get angry, right, don't tell me how

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<v Speaker 2>to respond, don't tell me not to cuss, don't tell

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<v Speaker 2>me all these different things. But pastors they say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>people are gonna get mad if we get in their business,

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<v Speaker 2>and they shy away from God's word. But guess what. Listen,

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<v Speaker 2>here's my big statement. My big statement is if you

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<v Speaker 2>have a problem with giving that is a spiritual problem,

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<v Speaker 2>make no mistake of it. That is not a financial problem,

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<v Speaker 2>that is not a business problem, that is not a

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<v Speaker 2>practical problem. That is just as much as a spiritual

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<v Speaker 2>problem as any other spiritual problem. It's just as important

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<v Speaker 2>in an exact same category as your marriage or your relationships.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you have a giving problem, then we need

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<v Speaker 2>to put it into the category of God teach me

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<v Speaker 2>in this area, which, by the way, consequently that means

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<v Speaker 2>that if people start to tie the more and as

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<v Speaker 2>the church offerings go up and we're able to do more,

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<v Speaker 2>that by church leadership should be just as celebrated as

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<v Speaker 2>much as God saving a marriage. Right, Yeah, God saved

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<v Speaker 2>a marriage. Man that's awesome. Let's celebrate God broke the

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<v Speaker 2>power of greed in somebody's life. Hey man, let's celebrate, right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same thing. And so yeah, so that's the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why you know, God is going through and saying,

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<v Speaker 2>here's all of my commands, here's all my decrees, and

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<v Speaker 2>let me talk about how you need to also honor

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<v Speaker 2>me with your resources as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's a lot more that we can get

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<v Speaker 1>into here, but we are out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of time, we certainly are. So anyway, that is all

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<v Speaker 2>our time. So we will wrap up Malachi tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 2>so hopefully we'll see you then on the babble. Guys,