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You're listening to the Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun in practical
ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to

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the Bible Guys. We're back.
We are back, better than ever,

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baby, better than ever. Okay, see, everything's a movie to me,

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right, two guys sitting in a
studio. Yeah, I'm back.

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Oh geez, you want poorter guys
on me? There they're here. Okay,

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Hey, we are going to start
off with one of my favorite segments.

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And this really is just so fun. It is the Dad Joe competition.

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I think haven't No, I haven't
either. I haven't even read a

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single one. But the older I
get, the more I think I appreciate

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these. Yeah, I think they're
funny. Yeah. So, uh you

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want me to go? Yes,
you go first. We have five each.

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Here we go. Here's the first
one. What is that word?

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Okay, here we go. The
word Q is ironic. It's just a

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queue with a bunch of silent letters
waiting in line. So q U e

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U e q q right, Like
that's that's how Europe says. British people

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say, standing in line. Right, So you queue up or you get

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in the queue. Right right now. Yeah, we have ques. Yes,

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we were in the queue, but
we usually say standing in line,

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right in line. But he says, it's just a queue with a bunch

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of silent letters waiting in line.
So you're clever, you short have to

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very clever. It's a reading one's
read one. That's one you have to

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see. Come on, does a
ray? Don't give us a reading one?

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That's right. Here we go.
A color blind friend of mine insists

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that all apples are yellow. I
told him that was bananas. Oh jeez,

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that was bananas. That's bananas,
not apples. That's bananas. Number

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two, here we go. What
do you call it? Superhero with a

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bad sense of direction? I don't
know. Wonder woman. It's terrible.

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So no, it's so bad.
Okay, Oh that's awful. This one's

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terrible. This one is. We
might get protested on this one. I

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recently opened a company selling trampolines disguised
as prayer mats. Profits are going through

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the roof. Oh wow, wow, wow, that's really good. Okay,

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that's really good. All right,
How about this one? How can

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you tell the difference between a crocodile
and an alligator? I don't know.

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Easy one will see you later,
and the other one will see you in

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a while, after a while.
Yeah, okay, while, yeah this.

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My grandson does that all the time, does he. Yeah, But

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he doesn't understand the rhyme part of
it, so he just makes up new

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animals, so you'd be like,
see you later, alligator, and then

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he'll be like, after a while, elephant. It's so funny. So

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he hasn't quite figured out the rhyming
part of it yet. We say,

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after a while, crocodile, No, no, after a while, Ostrich,

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it's funny. Okay, here we
go. The person who invented the

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ferris wheel never met the person who
invented the merry ground. They traveled in

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different circles. Oh wow, that's
pretty good. That's a clever one like

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that. I like that one,
all right. How about this one.

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When I was a kid, bedtime
was nine pm. I couldn't wait to

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be grown up so I can go
to bed anytime I wanted. Turns out

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that's nine pm. That's really fun
It's true. It is true. Man,

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it's really funny. I fight it, but yeah, okay. NASA.

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NASA is launching a satellite to say
sorry to the aliens they're calling it

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the Apollo g O. That was
rough. That was funny, clever,

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clever. Why would we want to
say we're sorry to the aliens? What

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do we do then? All right, this one a dragon would never explode,

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but a dino mite. Okay,
good one, good one. It's

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funny. What's your last one?
Uh? Just when you think that food

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cannot possibly call you on your phone, Boom onion rings. You know,

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the delivery was just as good as
the punchline. The way that they wrote

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boom is great, and he delivered
it perfectly. Boom onion rings. That's

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the funniest part of that joke,
not even it's not even the cleverness.

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It's really funny. Well, was
that it? That's a lot of fun

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Okay, we are moving on.
So if you held on this long,

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we're done. It's over. Yes, goodbye, and we'll see you next

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time. No, no, no, no, I'm just talking. The

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pain is is done. Well,
we are now launching into the next after

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Genesis seventeen. If you've been following
along with us, yes, today we'd

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be looking at how Abram is named
Abraham, and clearly you can see how

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excited Zarba is about it. So
yes, I'm so excited Jeff for you

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to read. Okay, so Abram, here it goes. I'm so glad

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you do the readings. Why is
that because last yesterday on the Bible,

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guys, you read beer lahai roi, which means well the living one who

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sees me? And I thought,
and you just you just burned right through

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it. I was just making it
up and I would never I just don't

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want that. Yeah. Yeah,
So I just I just allow you to

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read, you know, so thank
you, like Tony Stark says, I

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will allow, I will allow that. Yes, that's me. That's my

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favorite line. Yeah. Well it's
kind of spelled out that way, right,

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But I just am grateful that you're
doing the reading of these things.

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Well, thank you. Yeah,
that's my part, that's the small part.

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I get to play, yes,
yes, because I mean you get

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the sing. Can you get the
sing? And you get to laugh,

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you get to do all the fun
stuff. Yeah, yeah, here you

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go, not actual Bible stuff.
So Genesis chapter seventeen, verse one,

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and it's just simply says this.
When Abram was ninety nine years old,

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the Lord appeared to him and said, I am el Shadai. I knew

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that one, God Almighty, serve
me faithfully and live a blameless life.

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I will make a covenant with you
by which I will guarantee to give you

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countless descendants. At this Abram fell
face down on the ground, and then

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God said to him, this is
my covenant with you. I will make

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you the father of a multitude of
nations. What's more, I'm changing your

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name. It will no longer be
Abram. Instead you will be called Abraham,

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for you will be the father of
many nations. I will make you

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extremely fruitful. Your descendants will become
many nations, and kings will be among

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them. I will confirm my covenant
with you and your descendants after you,

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from generation to generation. And this
is the everlasting covenant. I will always

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be your god and the god of
your descendants after you, and I will

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give the entire land of Canaan and
where you now live as a foreigner,

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to you and your descendants. It'll
be their possession forever, and I will

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be their God. Wow, there
you go. That's great, I think.

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I say, there you go almost
every time I finished reading. Yeah.

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Well, so just in case you're
only ever listening and you're not reading

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along with us. The Bible doesn't
actually say there you go every one of

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these at the end of the right, at the end of yeah, there

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you go the uh. You know, it's interesting how God had already promised

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Abraham to leave his country a long
time ago, that's correct, and then

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then he was gonna make him a
father of nations, right, and he

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promised them descendants long ago, which
is why Abraham got up and he left,

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and he packed everything up and took
everything is with him, his wealth,

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and he and he traveled all the
way through right, even went further

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down to Egypt and then came back. But now he is ninety nine years

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old, and then the Lord appeared
to him. Now what's interesting about this

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is is why would God appear and
make such a drastic appearance to say the

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same thing, only in more detail
as he already said. Right, And

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you know what I think the answer
is. I think the answer is it's

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found sort of in between the lines. You know, we just read last

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chapter which was yesterday's podcast. The
fact that you know, they're praying for,

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you know, a child for decades
and then they get impatient and then

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they you know, act in sin
and they do this thing with child out

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of wedlock with a servant, and
then now he's ninety nine years old,

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which means there's another thirteen years that
have passed. Yeah, you know what

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I believe it is. I believe
what God is doing. And again it's

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not said, but you can apply
it and say, maybe God is showing

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up and he is reaffirming or reminding
Abraham that he never fails, that he's

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going to keep his word. That
he is saying, Hey, I've not

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forgotten you, and I've not forgotten
the promise you know that I've given to

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you. I've never stopped watching over
you. I've never stopped hearing your prayers.

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I've never stopped hearing your cries.
And He is showing him up,

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maybe showing up in person, maybe
to perhaps solidify his faith to you know,

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ground him once again and is resolve
to serve God. I don't know

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what are your thoughts on that.
Yeah, I think so very much.

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I think that the idea of changing
the name. I think that right after

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this comes the circumcision Covenant, which
we didn't read all of these things,

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is God is putting his mark on
Abram. God is saying, are you

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going to follow me? God?
God? Has brought him on his journey,

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and there's been kind of an expansion
of the promise. This is the

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third promise in Abram's life. So
the first one Abram is, you know,

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probably I don't know what. Does
the Bible tell us how old he

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was when he left? I don't
remember. I can't remember. But here

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we are, he's ninety nine.
So this has been decades since the first

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time God promised. So God promises
at the beginning, go to the land

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of Canaan, I'm gonna give you
that land. And he doesn't say I'm

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gonna give you land, go to
land of cana I'm gonna make a great

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nation of you. That was the
promise, right, and you know,

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Abram had good times and bad times. He was following God, but he

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wasn't a perfect man. Then God
promises, Yeah, it says Abram was

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seventy five years old when he left
Horn. Okay, so seventy five,

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So seventy five to ninety nine,
so two and a half decades, yeah,

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yeah. And then in the middle
God promises again. And then this

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one here where he finally comes and
has this very strong reaffirmation. But at

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this time too, he's also promising
the whole land of Canaan, It's going

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to be yours, right, all
of this land is yours, where you

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now live as a foreigner to you
and your descent city'd be their possession forever.

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Canaan is what is modern day Israel
and Palestine that area. And God

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said, hey, this is going
to be your, your people's land forever.

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And it is still right. And
then God institutes the ceremony of circumcision

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as the foundational element, that is
physical proof that they were set apart by

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God. There's a lot of reasons
for that, but God literally put his

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mark in the place that is most
important to Abram right at that point,

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which to me, if you're going
to start a religion, that seems like

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a really bad recruiting mechanism or recruiting
tool, right, But in this situation,

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that's what God said. And there's
an interesting note in here about this

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idea. It says it gave four
reasons. One it was a sign of

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obedience to God in all manners.
And that's that's I think true. Right

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from the very basic human behaviors all
the way to saying that your heart is

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for God. Everything is that way. It is a kind of belonging to

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his covenant people. Once circumcised,
the man would be identified as one of

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God's chosen people, eventually the Jews
forever. The third reason is that it

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was a symbol of cutting off the
old life of sin and purifying one's heart

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and dedicating one's self to God.
That's where Abram got himself in trouble,

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right, So this is where God
says, okay, let's cut this off.

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And then possibly as a health measure. There's a lot of health issues

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that go along with that as well. And so in Abram's day, it

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was essential God was saying, I'm
going to send the Messiah through your line.

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It's essential that God's people stay pure
and clean and not defiled and have

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their bloodline watered down by the pagans
around them, the people worshiping other gods.

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And so it was all those things
together. And God changes his name

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and he goes from Abram means like
a celebrated father, right, and Abraham

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means father of many. And so
even then the difference between hey, you're

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going to have a son too,
you are going to be the father of

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nations, that God elevates the promise. And so I think sometimes people feel

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like, oh, I had sin
in my past. This is thirteen years

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later, right, But you might
feel like, you know, a decade

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ago you were so in your wild
oats and you were messing up your life,

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and that there's no hope for you, that God's ever got anything special.

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God increased his promise to Abram over
those next thirteen years. As Abram

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leaned back into his relationship with God, God says, hey, now what

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did he say? He didn't tell
him. I want you to live pure

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right, serve me faithfully and live
a blameless life, and I'll make a

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covenant with you by which I'll guarantee
you countless descendants. So God elevates the

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promise, and so you know,
if you have something in your past,

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God still can use you and still
wants to use you in a great way.

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Yeah, and I find it very
interesting as well. Like, listen

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to the wording of what God says. He says, it will no longer

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be Abraham. Instead, it'll be
called Abraham. You'll be the father many

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nations. And then listen to this
next sentence. I will make you extremely

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fruitful, you ninety nine year old
man. Yes, make you extremely fruitful.

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It's like, it's like, what, so the idea that, like,

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you know, there's still time left. God has not done with you

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yet, right, Yeah. How
many stories have you ever heard of people

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who they're just I mean, I
mean simple stories, not even famous.

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For instance, I know a guy, a good friend of mine, Tom

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Hoague, and his wife since has
passed on. But she was a wonderful

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nurse and my wife was looking to
get into nursing and and she said,

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oh, my wife said, I'm
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my wife's been a nurse and she
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like when she was in her late
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and that since then she's passed and
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eighties. But anyway, the point
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God has great things on the horizons
for anybody who maybe thinks, oh

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my time has passed, it's too
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God for decades and now it's too
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no, you know, do you
ever read Charles Dickens, right, Scrooge

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and his late right, you know, in his late ages. It says

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the last line of the Charles Dickens
novel Course this is you know, fiction,

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but it says that he became known
Christmas, became attached to his name

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more than it was you know,
against it or something like that. Right.

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So I believe that that's what God
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of second chances. He's the God
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of how much time we have left. Yeah, my dad became a Christian

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when he was forty, So you'd
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but it was not a Christian And
then when he graduated high school, he

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he ran from God and he became
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can remember when he was fifty.
I was eighteen, and I can remember

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him talking on his fiftieth birthday,
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away from the Lord. Serve the
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age when I just threw it all
away, and he said, I feel

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like I've wasted so much of my
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regret that he wasted a big chunk
of his life in being effective and never

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really felt like he was going to
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Lord. But now my dad's eighty
six, which means he's been a Christian

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longer than he wasn't a Christian.
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health is failing, and you know, just as you get older, things

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are different. And my dad spent
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life just really enthusiastic about the idea
of sharing his faith. He taught me

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how to share the gospel. We
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stuff like that. Just recently,
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was with somebody he cares a lot
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was a Christian. And my dad's
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conversations now, but he leaned in
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knew Jesus and was on their way
to Heaven, right, And I was

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just thinking, Hey, that's kind
of that. I love that my dad's

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been serving Jesus longer than he didn't
serve Jesus and he still wants everybody else

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to know Jesus right at this point
late stage and so for Abram here he

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is. He's an old, old, old old man by every standard that

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we have in modern times, ninety
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not done with you. I'm going
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give you new mission. I'm going
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so it's not too late. I
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It's not too late. God wants
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now, you know, you're feeling
you're at home, maybe and you're retired,

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you're trying to figure out what you're
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times people feel old, they've been
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of health issues. You start to
believe it. Whatever you believe about yourself

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is usually true in some way,
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Right you may get through their self
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hey, guy's not done with me
yet. My life has changed,

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but now I have to find new
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she you know, is has some
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that's a nice delicate way of saying
that man. She jumped in on you

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know, we do a lot of
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at Heritage, and she jumped in
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that she has gotten on fire for
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a Bible study group at the Senior
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retirement facility, and she started a
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on mission right now, and she
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She's moving a little slower, but
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and so she's maximizing her time and
man alive. I think that's kind of

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what we're seeing here with Abraham now. When when I got out of Bible

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College, I went straight to Atlanta, Georgia, and I worked at one

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church that was a smaller church.
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I was there for like eight years, and then I left that church.

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I should have quite honestly left it
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his timing right, and then I
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was like eighteen hundred people. I
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years, and then I left there. And I think that both of those

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ended poorly. So I liked ministry. I liked, you know, pretty

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much like my level down. The
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up. I didn't like leadership in
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at two different churches. So I
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with ministry. And I was really, you know, I mean we're talking

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like I'm thirty. I would have
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two, And I thought, jeez, I don't know if I have it

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in me to go to another church, you know, and move across the

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country or do whatever. And eventually
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unbelievable set of circumstances. I don't
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it's my it's my angel story,
right. But here's my point is that

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is that, like I thought to
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now for you know, for at
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like a dozen years, and and
I'd been a Christian for another five or

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six years. I thought, geeze, that's over twenty years of serving the

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Lord. I think I think I'm
I think I'm done doing this full time.

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But the thing that God told me, and there's only a few times

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in my entire life where I felt
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it was audible, but it was
just about as close to audible as you

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could possibly get. I knew it
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was just it was just this unbelievable
moment. Uh. And it's you know,

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it's just a long story, but
basically, here's the message. Is

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I heard God say with clarity,
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message was I'm not through with you
yet. That was it. And that

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was in two thousand and four,
and and I just remember thinking, in

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fact, it was in It was
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four. That's where it was.
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myself, geez, like, what
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I knew it was from God.
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I'm not I'm not done with you
yet, it's that that fueled me for

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the next twenty years, from from
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years exactly from that date, I
can't even imagine how even even how how

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much more great it was for God
to appear and and to talk to Abraham

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face to face. And then the
Bible says, if we go on beyond

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the circumcision thing, then God also
changes Sarah's name to Sarah, right,

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both of those names mean princess.
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have a son. And Abram is
like, he said, oh, bless

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her richly, should become the mother
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God's solidifying. Hey, you guys, I'm not done with you too yet.

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And the Bible says Abraham bowed down
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to himself and disbelieve. And he's
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almost one hundred years old, she's
almost ninety years old. How are we

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going to have a child. But
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would you bless Ishmael too, And
so he didn't forget Ishmael just because

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of the promise that God said,
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of him. And then they went
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that that's the key. The key
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every promise of God in the Bible. I can't think of a promise apart

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from it, every promise of God
is if then. So he said,

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I want you to live holy right. I want you to be faithful,

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be blameless, and I'm gonna bless
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ope babe me and do this circumcision
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names. I'm going to change your
future. I'm going to reaffirm and expand

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the promise. And then the very
next thing Abraham did was follow God and

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obey God and do exactly what he
said to do. So promises of God

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are if then promises. It's not
just like, oh, I get to

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claim the promise, it's mine.
No matter what, God always attaches a

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thing to it, something to it, And in this situation, it was

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be blameless and be faithful. That's
great, and they obeyed. Well,

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that looks like about our time,
so hopefully we will see you tomorrow on

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the Bible, guys,